Sermon
Yes or No? The Marriage Referendum
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define marriage as between one man and one woman, it is assumed and implied.
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So Article 41.3 reads from our Constitution,
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the state pledges to guard with special care the institution of marriage
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on which the family is founded and to protect it against attack.
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In fact, our laws that we have within our country define marriage as between one man and one woman
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and this has been reflected in legislation.
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However, according to the chairperson of the Referendum Commission, Mr Justice Kevin Cross,
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he says it's not going to change anything.
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All it means is marriage is, and his words, broadened to include two people of the same sex.
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So it doesn't change marriage.
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All we're doing is broadening marriage so that it includes two people of the same sex.
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So it will mean primarily two things.
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First, that two people of the same sex will be able to marry each other,
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just as two people of the opposite sex may marry.
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And secondly, these are the two primary things,
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a married couple of the opposite sex or of the same sex will be recognized as family
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and be entitled to the constitutional protection for families.
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Now, all the main political parties and the majority of the independents are campaigning for a yes vote
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because they claim it's all about equality and rights.
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So listen to what Ender Kenny said at the Fine Gael Ard Fesh some time ago.
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Quote,
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As we approach the centenary of the rising,
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a yes vote would, I believe, send out a powerful signal internationally
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that Ireland has evolved into a fair, compassionate and tolerant nation.
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I believe that this is the right thing to do.
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I and the Fine Gael party strongly support a yes vote.
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And therefore I say to all same-sex couples in our country,
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this is about you.
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It's about your right to say two small words made up of three simple letters,
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I do.
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Now this week, if you've been paying attention to the news,
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former President Mary McAleese gave her views as well.
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She said this,
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We want to be a human rights issue.
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We want them to be born into a world where if they fall in love with someone,
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they can express that love fully.
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We believe it to be a human rights issue.
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Now I think we all want a fair and compassionate Ireland.
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We all want to be treated with equality regardless of our gender.
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We want the rights of all people protected,
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whatever their orientation may be.
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So is it not right and fair and compassionate
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to recognise the unique relationship between a man and a woman?
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Wouldn't it be a tolerant society to protect the marriage institution
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on which the family is founded?
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You see, while every relationship,
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or while every person,
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we'll go back one, that's not right,
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while every person should be treated with equality,
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not every relationship has the same equality.
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Okay?
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Every person should be treated with equality,
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but not every relationship has the same equality.
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So let me explain.
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The relationship between a brother and a sister
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is different to the relationship of a son and his mother.
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And that is different, again,
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to the relationship between a husband and a wife.
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Each individual in those relationships
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has equal value and worth.
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But the relationships themselves are not equal.
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They're different.
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Each relationship needs to be treated differently
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and we have laws to protect those relationships.
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You see, the marriage relationship of one man and one woman is unique.
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Only one man and one woman can make new life.
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Only one man and one woman can give a child a mum and a dad.
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No two men or two women are ever able to do this.
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So in this referendum,
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we are talking about two very different kinds of relationships.
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Therefore, I think it would be very wrong
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to treat them as exactly the same.
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In fact, if we are to say it's all about rights and equality,
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then why not allow two sisters to marry?
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Or why don't we allow polygamy?
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Or why not legislate for open marriages
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where you can go from one to the other?
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Why don't we just broaden the definition of marriage
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to include what...
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Well, you fill in the blank.
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You decide what is right for you
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in terms of marriage.
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The point is,
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marriage is a unique relationship
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and it should be treated and protected as such.
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Now, as the referendum gets closer,
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each side of the campaign
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are playing what we call the rights card.
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Everybody's saying it's this right or that right.
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But I want to ask us all this morning,
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who ultimately decides what is right?
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Is it our laws?
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Is it our politicians who say what is right?
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Or is it what the outcome of the referendum says is right?
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The majority of people,
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will they decide what is right?
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Well, ultimately for me,
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and it should be the same for you if you are a Christian,
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it's not what I think is right
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or what you think is right.
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But ultimately,
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it's what God's word says is right.
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That is where our authority comes from.
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That is where we must submit ourselves to.
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And that's to where we're going to turn right now.
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We're going to look at two big questions
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or two big statements.
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Here's the first one.
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What has Jesus to say about same-sex marriage?
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What does Jesus have to say?
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Not what I say,
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not what politicians say.
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What does Jesus say?
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So, what does he have to say?
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Well, nothing.
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Jesus mentions or never mentions same-sex marriage.
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But, he does have something to say about sex and marriage.
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What does he have to say?
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Well, listen.
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First, sexual immorality.
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Have a look at Matthew chapter 15.
Matthew 15 chapter mention
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Matthew chapter 15.
Matthew 15 chapter mention
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We're going to be looking at a few different chapters in Matthew.
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So, if you've got your Bibles there,
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please open to Matthew chapter 15.
Matthew 15 chapter mention
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And I encourage you to take down any notes or any questions.
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And if there's anything you want to talk about afterwards or raise on Wednesday,
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that would be a great time to do it.
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So, Matthew 15 verse 18.
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Familiar words?
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Matthew 15 verse 18.
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Now, here Jesus is talking about the different behaviours that make us unacceptable before God.
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Now, here Jesus is talking about the different behaviours that make us unacceptable before God.
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And the phrase there in the middle, sexual immorality is a catch-all term for any distortion on God's design for sex.
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So, it includes things like pornography, adultery, premarital sex, prostitution, same-sex, or any distortion or forced sex within heterosexual marriage.
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So, in one statement, Jesus is saying, we are all sexually flawed.
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Every single one of us.
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But notice, he's not just talking about sexual immorality.
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He includes things like evil thoughts, slander, false testimony.
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In other words, Jesus is setting a standard before every single person that we all fail to achieve, married or not.
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You see, it's not just the area of marriage that we need to get right.
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Jesus is saying, it's actually bigger than that.
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What we need to get right is our whole life.
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We need to get our hearts right.
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Look at verse 19.
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For it's out of the heart that come all of these things.
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So, it's not just about defining marriage.
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Jesus is saying, it's much bigger.
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We need to get our hearts in order.
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But Jesus does have something to say about marriage.
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Have a look at Matthew 19.
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Matthew 19.
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And verse 3.
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Matthew 19, verse 3.
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Some Pharisees came.
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They were coming to trick Jesus.
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So, some Pharisees came to him to test him.
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They asked, is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?
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So, the Jews at the time had an understanding that a husband could actually divorce his wife for very petty things like not producing a good dinner.
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That was the way their laws worked.
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So, verse 4.
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Haven't you read?
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He replied that at the beginning the creator made them male and female and said, for this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife and the two will become one flesh.
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So, they are no longer two but one.
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Therefore, what God has joined together, let man not separate.
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Now, the primary issue here is about divorce.
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That's what the question is.
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But as Jesus addresses it, he defines clearly what marriage is.
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So, three things under this.
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First, we see that marriage is initiated and provided by God.
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So, look at verse 4.
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Jesus takes us right back to the beginning.
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He says, haven't you read, he replied, that at the beginning the creator.
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He takes us right back to Genesis 1 and Genesis 2 which he quotes from.
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So, he's saying right up front, marriage is not man's idea.
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It's the creator's idea.
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Marriage is a gift from God to people.
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It's not something that we invent and that we decide what's right or what's wrong.
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It's something initiated and provided for by God.
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Second thing, marriage, he says, is the union of one man and one woman.
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So, let's read verse 4 again.
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He says, at the beginning the creator made them male and female and said, for this reason a man will leave his father and mother.
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And be united to his wife and they will become one flesh.
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So, marriage is about one male and one female.
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They leave their father a male and they leave their mother a female and they become one flesh.
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It's two people of the opposite sex that define marriage.
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Now, the fact that we are created as men or as women means we have this relationship called marriage.
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Marriage exists because we are sexually different.
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Because we are made differently, we have the marriage institution.
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So, marriage is clearly defined by the union of one man and one woman.
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The third thing under this that Jesus has to say is that the only alternative to heterosexual marriage is singleness.
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The only alternative to heterosexual marriage is singleness.
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So, as Jesus goes on to talk with the Pharisees about what it is to be faithful,
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what it is to live in a lifelong committed marriage relationships,
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it makes the disciples a little bit uneasy about marriage.
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So, look what they have to say in verse 10.
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The disciples said to him,
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if this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.
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In other words, the standard that Jesus sets is so high,
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he said, what if we can't actually live up to this standard?
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Then what are we to do?
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So, look how Jesus answers.
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He starts talking about celibacy or singleness.
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So, verse 11.
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Jesus replied,
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Not everyone can accept this word, but only those to whom it has been given.
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For some are eunuchs or some are celibate,
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because they were born that way.
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Others were made that way by men.
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Others have renounced marriage.
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In other words, Jesus is saying,
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if we are not in a heterosexual marriage,
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the only alternative to that is singleness.
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Jesus doesn't say to the disciples,
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look, if that marriage doesn't work out with that person
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and it's not going so well,
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well, you can go and marry somebody else.
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Or he doesn't say,
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if your orientation is same-sex attraction,
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then go find somebody of the same sex and marry them.
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No, he doesn't say any of that.
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He says, look,
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singleness is the only godly alternative
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to heterosexual marriage.
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So, Jesus does have something to say about sex and marriage,
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and it challenges every single one of us.
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It's not just about same-sex marriage.
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It's not just about heterosexual marriage.
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It's much deeper than that.
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It's about our sexuality,
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and as we have seen from Matthew 15,
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we are all sexually flawed.
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None of us live life as God intends.
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Every one of us,
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whether we identify as gay or straight,
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whether we are married or single,
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we all need God to change our hearts on the inside,
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to clean us up,
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so that we live life His way.
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But Jesus says something else about marriage
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that is more important
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than the marriage relationships
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that we may find in this life.
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This is the third thing He says about marriage.
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Have a look at Matthew chapter 22.
Matthew 22 chapter mention
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Matthew 22.
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Here's another group of religious leaders.
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We have the Pharisees,
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and here's the Sadducees.
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If you want to know the difference about them,
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you can ask me afterwards.
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And here they're trying to catch Jesus out
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with another question.
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And they're asking about,
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well, what about marriage in heaven,
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or what about marriage in the afterlife?
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What about that?
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So, Matthew chapter 22, verse 24.
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They come up with this scenario.
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Teacher, they said, verse 24,
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Moses told us that if a man dies without having children,
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his brother must marry the widow
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and have children for him.
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Now, they say,
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there were seven brothers among us.
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The first one married and died,
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and since he had no children,
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he left his wife to his brother.
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The same thing happened to the second and third brother,
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right on down to the seventh.
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Finally, the woman died.
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Now then, here's the question.
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So, she's married seven times
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to seven different people.
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They're all brothers.
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Now then, at the resurrection,
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at the end of life,
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whose wife will she be of the seven
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since all of them were married to her?
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Hmm, good question.
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Will she have seven husbands in heaven?
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Or does she just have one?
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And which one is she going to pick?
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What's the answer going to be?
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Well, look what Jesus says, verse 29.
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Jesus replied,
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You are in error
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because you do not know the scriptures
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or the power of God.
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At the resurrection,
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at the end of time,
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people will neither marry
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nor be given in marriage.
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Look, says Jesus,
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there's something that is much more important
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than marriage in this life.
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In fact, our married relationships
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are all temporary.
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What's important is not whether we marry,
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but what we will be like.
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Look at the end of verse 30.
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He says they'll neither marry
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nor be given in marriage.
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They will be like the angels in heaven.
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That is, we will become pure.
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However, the intimacy and joy
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of human relationships
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will be replaced by a new kind of relationship,
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an ultimate relationship with God
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that the angels now enjoy
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with God in heaven.
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That is what's important.
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Verse 31.
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But he continues,
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but about the resurrection of the dead.
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Have you not read what God said to you?
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I am the God of Abraham,
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the God of Isaac,
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and the God of Jacob.
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He is not the God of the dead,
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but the God of the living.
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Jesus is reminding them
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that God is the one
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who enters into a permanent,
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faithful covenant with his people.
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That quote there in verse 32
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is this covenant God
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who comes to his people
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who said,
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I am the God of Abraham.
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I am the eternal,
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living God
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who enters into
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a relationship
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with my people,
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into that ultimate
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married relationship.
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You see,
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the problem with this
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marriage referendum is
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it's so short-sighted.
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It's not about
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same-sex marriage.
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It's not about
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heterosexual marriage.
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It's about eternity.
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It's about the ultimate,
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eternal marriage
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between God
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and his people.
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That's where every marriage
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is headed.
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So the question is,
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not what our view of marriage,
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but am I,
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and are you,
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are we ready
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to meet God?
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we can have marriage
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right,
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we can have our definition
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right,
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but are our hearts
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right?
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That's the real issue.
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You see,
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the big thing,
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if we can just take this away,
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is that Jesus
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has been saying
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through these different passages
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we've looked at so far,
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listen,
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we are all
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sexually flawed.
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Our hearts
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are all broken.
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But get this,
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we are so loved,
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we are infinitely loved
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by God.
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So much so
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that he sent his son,
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the Lord Jesus Christ,
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who gave up
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all of his rights.
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The only one
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who did have rights.
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He gave up
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all of his rights
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to come and serve
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people like you
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and me,
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to take on
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all our impurities,
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to become
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and to be treated
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as if he
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was sexually flawed,
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so that we might
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have his purity
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be accepted
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and welcomed
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into the ultimate
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marriage relationship
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with God,
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to know him
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and enjoy him.
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That's the big issue.
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And we can go on
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and on about
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defining and saying,
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get this,
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get this,
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but as Christian people,
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our role is to
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point towards
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Jesus
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and the relationship
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that we can have
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with him
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and what it means
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to live life
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under him.
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So that's what
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Jesus has to say
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about same-sex marriage.
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The second thing
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that we're going
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to look at
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is what Jesus
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has to say
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about children's rights.
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You see,
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in this referendum,
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it's not just about
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adults saying,
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it's my right
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to get married.
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It's about
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the rights
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of children
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or perhaps
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ignoring the rights
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of children.
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Have a look back
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at Matthew 19.
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Matthew 19
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and verse 13.
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So this comes
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just after
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the teaching
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on marriage
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that we looked at
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just a moment ago.
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And in Matthew 19
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verse 13
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we read this,
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Then little children
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were brought
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to Jesus
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for him
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to place
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his hands
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on them
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and pray
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for them.
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But the disciples
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rebuked those
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who brought them.
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Now,
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we might get
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a bit surprised
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there at the reaction
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of the disciples.
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Why are the disciples
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telling all the parents
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who are bringing
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all the children,
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take them away?
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You shouldn't be here
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is basically
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what's going on.
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We don't want
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any kids around here.
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Why would the disciples
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react like this?
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Well,
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we must remember
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that children
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in the first century
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had no rights
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or status.
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At very best,
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they were to be seen
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and not heard.
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In fact,
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under Roman law,
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a father
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had the right
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to kill his child
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if they displeased him
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or were unwanted.
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So children
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in the first century
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were legally sold
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and used as slaves.
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That was allowed
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to happen.
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That was in the laws.
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So children
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had no rights
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and they had no laws
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to protect them.
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So the disciples
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at this point
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are expressing
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something of the culture
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that has begun
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to shape them.
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It's wrong,
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but they're only expressing
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what they have been
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shaped by.
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Jesus, however,
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challenges
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and confronts
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the culture
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of the day.
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So look at verse 14.
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Jesus said,
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Let the little children
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come to me
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and do not hinder them
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for the kingdom of heaven
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belongs to such
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as these.
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Jesus is making
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a bold statement
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to the culture
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and the people
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of his time.
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Children are
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of equal value
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and worth.
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They are welcomed
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and accepted.
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And we have to change it
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is what he is saying.
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And it was because
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of that very teaching
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of Jesus
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that the Christian community
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in the first century
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were the first people
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who were known
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for rescuing
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and protecting
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vulnerable children
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and adopting them
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into their own families.
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They would make it
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their business
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to go and take
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the children
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that the Roman fathers
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would want to get rid of
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and take them in.
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And it's this teaching
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that has shaped
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many of our laws since.
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Interestingly,
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our Minister for Health,
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Leo Varadkar,
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although this is speaking
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back in 2010,
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who has since identified
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himself as gay,
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said this.
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He says,
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Every child
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has the right
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to a mother and father
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and as much as possible
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the state should vindicate
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that right.
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That is a more important right
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than that of two men
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or two women
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having a family.
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That is the principle
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that should underline
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our laws
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regarding children
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and adoption.
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So the rights
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of children
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matter.
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In fact,
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they have a right
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to a mum
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and dad.
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You see,
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the teaching of Jesus
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is affirmed
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and built upon
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as you go through
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the New Testament.
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The Apostle Paul
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consistently writes
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about children's relationship
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to a mother and father.
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In Ephesians chapter 6,
Ephesians 6 chapter mention
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have a look there
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if you like,
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Ephesians chapter 6
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verses 1 to 3.
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Ephesians 6
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verses 1 to 3.
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So this is all
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being built upon
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what Jesus has said,
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what Jesus had built upon
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from what God had said
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in the Old Testament.
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So chapter 6
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verse 1.
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Children,
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obey your parents
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in the Lord
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for this is right.
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Well,
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who are the parents?
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Verse 2,
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honour your father
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and mother
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which is the first commandment
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and it has a promise.
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And here's the promise,
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that it may go well
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with you
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and that you may
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enjoy long life
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on the earth.
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Now isn't it interesting
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you're saying,
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look,
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there's a design here.
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This is what family life
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is to be like.
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Children
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in a family
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as far as possible
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with a mum and dad.
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Why?
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Because it's going to be
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best for them.
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You see,
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a family consisting
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of a mum and dad
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is the best environment
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for a child
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to be raised.
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UNICEF,
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the worldwide organisation
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protecting the rights
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of children,
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make it abundantly clear
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what is best
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for the development
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and care
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of children.
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and this comes
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from their
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early childhood
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development studies.
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Child development,
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they say,
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is largely influenced
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by the family structure
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in which a child
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is raised.
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Children living
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without their mothers
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or fathers
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or without both
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biological parents
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are at special risk
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of being denied
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the care they need
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for their physical
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and psychological
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well-being.
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So it's not just
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a biblical idea,
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it's seen in practice
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that that's what's right
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and what's best.
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Biological parents
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are the best.
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But let's be real
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about this.
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Sometimes
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our biological parents
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are not always
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the best parents
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and sometimes
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they're not always
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able to care
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for their children.
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So sometimes
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it is best
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and loving
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for those children
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to be cared for
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and to be provided
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for by another family.
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But that should,
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as far as possible,
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be a mum
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and a dad.
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Because if we get it wrong,
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then it leads
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to all kinds
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of terrible experiences.
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Listen to this.
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This past week
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an actress in England
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told of her experience
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being raised
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by her biological mother
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and her mum's gay partner.
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This is what she said,
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far from being
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a healthy,
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nurturing state
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of affairs,
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this arrangement
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where I was caught
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in a destructive,
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triangular battle
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for my mother's affection
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with another woman
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while forced
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to watch helplessly
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as my father
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was emasculated
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and airbrushed
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from our lives
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was simultaneously
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damaging
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and confusing.
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So that is
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the experience
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of one child
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in the home
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that they were raised.
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But the implications
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are further.
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A website
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that I encourage you
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to look up
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and check out,
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Mothers and Fathers Matter.
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It's an organisation
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campaigning
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on the no side
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and they spell out
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very clearly
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what it would mean
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if the referendum
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is accepted.
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It says,
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the right
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to found
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a family
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will become
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a constitutional
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right of any
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two men
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or two women.
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What will that mean?
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Well,
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for two men
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they will be
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legally entitled
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to seek out
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a surrogate.
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Two women
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on the other side
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will have the legal
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right to seek
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a sperm donation
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and create a child.
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That means
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the child
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themselves,
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the child
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who is born
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will have
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zero identifying
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information
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until they reach
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the years,
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until they reach
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18 years old.
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So an entire
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childhood
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will have passed
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before their
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true identity
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and genetic
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heritage
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can be revealed
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to them.
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Now that has
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medical
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consequences
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as well
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because there may
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be something
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hereditary
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from their
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biological parents
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that now
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they know
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nothing about
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because they are
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now living
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with somebody else
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and they can't
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be told about it.
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Not to say
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anything of the
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psychological damage
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that it may cause.
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Now from my
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understanding
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of what all
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that means is
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that children
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just become
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made to order.
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They are not
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only denied
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a mother and
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father,
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they are denied
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knowing who
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their actual
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biological parents
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are.
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So just as
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Jesus sought
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to set out
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at the very
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beginning
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the rights
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of children
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and to
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protect them,
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so we should
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also be on
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the side of
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protecting the
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rights of
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children because
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the unborn
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can't protect
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themselves.
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So those are
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the two big
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things that
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Jesus has to
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say about
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marriage and
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about the
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rights of
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children.
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So where
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does this
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leave us
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leave us
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all?
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Well I
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want to
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encourage you
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to vote
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no.
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Primarily
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because of
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what Jesus
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has to say
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about marriage
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and the
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rights of
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children.
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But that
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does not
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mean by
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voting no
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we have to
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somehow choose
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between loving
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and opposing.
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We mustn't
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split that.
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We must
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do both.
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love.
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And I want
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to stress
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this as
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people.
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We should
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be loving
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to all
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people and
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welcoming of
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all regardless
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of their
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relationship
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status whether
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they are
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married or
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single.
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We should
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be people
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who are at
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the forefront
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of protecting
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the rights
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of all
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people whatever
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their gender
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or orientation.
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it is the
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Christian
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community who
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should be
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saying you
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have the
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right to
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say what
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you want
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to say.
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You have
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the right to
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freedom of
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speech and
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declare what
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your interests
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and desires
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are.
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That is what
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we should be
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protecting and
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we should do
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it lovingly but
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at the same
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time opposing
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with gentleness
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and care any
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change to
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God's good
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design for
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marriage and
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the family.
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loving to
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all but
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gently opposing
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any change
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to God's
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good design
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for marriage
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and family.
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Let's pray
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together.
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this is the
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prayer of the
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apostle Paul.
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He says let
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your conversation
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be always
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full of
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grace
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seasoned
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with salt
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so that
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you may
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know how
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to answer
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everyone.
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Father we
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ask that
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for each
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one of us
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here
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that we
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would be
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able to
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clearly
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explain our
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reasons
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but that we
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would also be
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able to
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explain the
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hope that
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we have
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that there
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is something
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of far
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greater
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significance
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and consequence
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than our
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earthly
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relationships
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relationships
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or our
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married
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relationships
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but the
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ultimate
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marriage
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relationship
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to come
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between God
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and his
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people
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in the
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new heavens
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and the
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new earth.
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Father would
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you please
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forgive us
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for we are
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all sexually
-
flawed
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we have all
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messed up
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would you
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please
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forgive us
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would you
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cleanse us
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afresh
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and would
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you please
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by the
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power of
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your Holy
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Spirit
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help us
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to live
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life
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as you
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call us
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to
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protecting
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every
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marriage
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relationship
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here
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protecting
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every
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family
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unit
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here
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and that
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together
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as a
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church
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family
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we would
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be loving
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and caring
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and welcoming
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of all
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who would
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come
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we pray
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that you
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would help
-
us to do
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this well
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in Jesus
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name we
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ask
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amen