Sermon
Why All The Suffering? - Job 1:1-2:13
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One said, part of God's answer, when God answered the question of suffering, he gave us the book of Job, which is 42 chapters.
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In other words, it's not an easy answer.
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So we're going to be looking at Job partly this morning, but at other passages.
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But we're going to read all of chapter 1 as we begin.
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So Job, just before Psalms, Job chapter 1.
Job 1 chapter mention
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In the land of Uz there lived a man whose name was Job.
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This man was blameless and upright.
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He feared God and shunned evil.
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He had seven sons and three daughters, and he owned 7,000 sheep, 3,000 camels, 500 yoke of oxen, 500 donkeys, and had a large number of servants.
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He was the greatest man among all the people of the East.
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His sons used to hold feasts in their homes on their birthdays, and they would invite their three sisters to eat and drink with them.
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When a period of feasting had run its course, Job would make an arrangement for them to be purified.
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Early in the morning, he would sacrifice a burnt offering for each of them, thinking,
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Perhaps my children have sinned and cursed God in their hearts.
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This was Job's regular custom.
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One day, the angels came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came with them.
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The Lord said to Satan, Where have you come from?
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Satan answered the Lord, From roaming throughout the earth, going to and fro on it.
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Then the Lord said to Satan, Have you considered my servant Job?
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There is no one on earth like him.
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He is blameless and upright, a man who fears God and shuns evil.
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Does Job fear God for nothing?
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Satan replied.
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Have you not put a hedge around him and a household and everything he has?
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You have blessed the work of his hands, and so that his flocks and herds are spread throughout the land.
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But now stretch out your hand and strike everything he has, and he will surely curse you to your face.
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The Lord said to Satan, Very well then, everything he has is in your power, but on the man himself do not lay a finger.
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Then Satan went out from the presence of the Lord.
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One day when Job's sons and daughters were fasting and drinking wine in the eldest brother's house,
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a messenger came to Job and said, The oxen were plowing and the donkeys were grazing nearby,
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and the Sabaeans attacked and made off with them.
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They put the servants to the sword, and I am the only one who has escaped to tell you.
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While he was still speaking, another messenger came and said,
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The fire of God fell from the heavens and burned up the sheep and the servants,
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and I am the only one who has escaped to tell you.
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While he was still speaking, another messenger came and said,
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The Chaldeans formed three raiding parties and swept down on your camels and made off with them.
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They put the servants to the sword, and I am the only one who has escaped to tell you.
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While he was still speaking, yet another messenger came and said,
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Your sons and daughters were feasting and drinking wine at the elder brother's house,
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when suddenly a mighty wind swept in from the desert and struck the four corners of the house.
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It collapsed on them, and they are dead.
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And I am the only one who has escaped to tell you.
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At this Job got up, tore his robe, shaved his head.
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Then he fell to the ground in worship and said,
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Naked I came from my mother's womb.
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Naked I shall depart.
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The Lord gave, and the Lord has taken away.
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May the name of the Lord be praised.
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In all this, Job did not sin by charging God with wrongdoing.
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Well, we'll be looking at Job in a little while.
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Before we start, just to make mention of a couple of things.
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In your new sheet, you'll notice there's some books alongside the Bible that we should primarily read.
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We can also read the experiences of Christians who suffered.
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So as we go through the series, I'll recommend books along the way that may be helpful to you.
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These are two that I have read myself in the past and found them very, very helpful.
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Both Paul Mallard.
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He writes of his wife's suffering and consequence knock-on effects on their family.
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That's the first one.
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And then others you may know, Joni Tada and her injuries through her life, a place of healing, which is very, very helpful as well.
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So those are two.
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I've ordered some copies.
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I hope I'll have them for next Sunday.
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And you can purchase them if you would like them.
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The other thing to say is the notes that I gave out today.
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There's not really questions like there normally is.
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What I've done is just the same headings will be on the screen as on the pieces of paper.
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But there's kind of like little summary points.
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So what I'd like us to do is more to engage with what I have to say, what we look at from God's word.
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There'll be lots of questions.
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We won't answer everything.
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So maybe there's a question that arises and you need to write that down.
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You can talk to me afterwards or underline something.
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But it's more to be reflective of what we hear from God's word.
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So with all that in mind, let's pray and ask for his help to us today.
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The Lord is majestic, sovereign in all his ways.
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We bow to your mastery.
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We bow in worship before you.
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We humble ourselves before you, O Lord.
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For you are the God who gives life.
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The God who takes life.
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The God in whom we can trust.
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So would you please help us as we look at your word together to be listening carefully.
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Not just to understand with our minds.
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But that we would know truth penetrating our hearts.
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Changing our minds and our wills.
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That we might love you and trust you more and more.
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We ask for your help.
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Amen.
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About three years ago, I noticed a slight tremor in my right arm.
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I tried to ignore it, thinking that it was just a trapped nerve and that it would soon go away.
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After a number of months, it was still there, so I went to the doctors.
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And what followed was a series of tests with the neurologists.
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On the final visit, I sat waiting for the results.
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I've often thought about suffering, and I've asked the question, why, many times.
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Reading and reasoning things out in my mind.
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But this time, it was different.
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It was personal.
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Jonathan Grant.
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I walked in and I sat down.
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The consultant looked at me sympathetically.
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You have early onset Parkinson's disease.
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Now Parkinson's is a neurological disease which affects and controls the movement of the body.
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And thankfully, with medication, it's being kept in check.
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And it remains quite stable.
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Now I share this not to gain sympathy.
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Or because my suffering is worse than yours.
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It's not.
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I've sat with many of you.
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I've talked with you.
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I've prayed with you.
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I've cried with you.
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I share it because for most of us, the question of suffering is not intellectual and philosophical.
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It's personal and experiential.
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So for you, perhaps, you've watched a family member struggle with cancer.
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Maybe you've lost a close friend through a tragic accident.
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But maybe it's even more personal than that.
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Maybe you are suffering.
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Perhaps a broken relationship.
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An ongoing illness.
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Struggling with unfulfilled dreams.
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You see, we all live in a world where suffering is deeply real.
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Disease and disability.
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Earthquakes and tsunamis.
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Wars and famine.
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Violence and rape.
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And the hard reality is that if we live long enough, we will suffer.
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Now, the question before us is this morning, what do we do about all this suffering?
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Well, our natural reaction is to blame God.
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A parent buries their own child and inside they're crying out,
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Why did you let my child die?
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A landslide smothers a whole village, wiping out hundreds.
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How can you let this happen?
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Why did you create such a horrible world?
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Why do you inflict such terrible pain?
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Our experience of suffering means we are hurt and we are angry.
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Something is not right with this world.
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We don't like suffering and we desperately want it to stop.
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And God, it seems, is to blame for all the suffering we see and experience.
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But yet, there's a problem.
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You see, we can only truly blame God if we believe in God.
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If you're an atheist, you can't blame God because, well, to you, he doesn't exist.
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You cannot get angry at a non-existent God.
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A true atheist believes that life in this world is just a random series of events.
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To quote one philosopher, we are simply the outcome of an accidental collection of atoms.
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So why is suffering a problem?
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It's just the natural shape and form of life.
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Why is it a problem if a child is born with no limbs?
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What does it matter if a tornado wipes out a village?
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It's just the way it is.
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No rhyme or reason.
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It just is.
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Get on with it.
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So if an atheist is to be true to himself or herself, they have no God to be angry at.
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We cannot blame a God who does not exist.
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And if God does not exist, well, then we cannot expect him to intervene and end the suffering we face.
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However, whatever our belief about God, all of us have this sense that suffering is not meant to be.
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Deep down, we want suffering to end.
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So what do we do about the problem?
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Well, I think we need to at least consider what God has to say.
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We mightn't like everything that God says,
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and God mightn't answer everything we ask, but we must let God be God.
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If we're going to be angry at God, and I don't think there's any wrong in being angry,
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then we need to leave room for him to answer.
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We cannot simply shout at God and not listen to what he has to say.
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So three things we're going to look at in response to why all the suffering.
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First, God and the cause of suffering.
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Turn with me, please, to Genesis chapter 2.
Genesis 2 chapter mention
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God and the cause of suffering.
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The Bible story begins with a world that is full of beauty and harmony.
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It's a world where there is no suffering.
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It's life as we long for in all its wonder.
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But we don't have to read too far along,
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and we begin to see what caused the suffering in the world.
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And it seems there are three interrelated causes or reasons for suffering.
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First, human rebellion.
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God created a world in which there was one loving ruler.
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God is the creator.
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God made the world, so he owns the world.
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And because he owns the world, he makes the rules.
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Chapter 2, verse 15.
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The Lord God took the man and put him in the Garden of Eden.
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Eden, of course, means paradise.
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Took him to work in the Garden of Eden to work it and take care of it.
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And the Lord God commanded the man,
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You are free to eat from any tree in the garden,
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but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil,
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for when you eat from it, you will certainly die.
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Now, I don't think it was some kind of magical fruit.
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God was simply setting a boundary.
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Don't break my commands.
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Because if you do, there will be disorder, disease, decay.
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It's all going to end in death.
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If you set yourself up as ruler, it will end in terrible suffering.
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And as we'll see, that's what happened.
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The first man and woman rebelled against God,
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and suffering has entered the world.
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In fact, the history of mankind, including ourselves,
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has been ongoing in their rebellion.
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As a human race, we have added to suffering
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through selfish actions and evil choices.
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So first, there is human rebellion.
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Second, there's satanic influence.
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Chapter 3, verse 1.
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Now, the snake, later identified as Satan,
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known as the deceiver, who is a fallen angel.
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We're not told how or why not all these things are given to us,
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but simply that he is a fallen angel.
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Now, the snake was more crafty than any of the wild animals
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the Lord God had made.
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He said to the woman,
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Did God really say you must not eat from the tree,
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from any tree in the garden?
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Verse 4.
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You will not certainly die,
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the snake said to the woman.
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For God knows that when you eat from it,
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your eyes will be opened,
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and you will be like God,
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knowing good and evil.
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In other words,
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you will be the ones who will decide
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what is good
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and what is evil.
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You see, Satan is the arch enemy of God.
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He loves to break and destroy.
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He sets himself up against God
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and is motivated by a pure hate
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of all that is good and beautiful.
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And we must never underestimate
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Satan's influence.
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The Bible describes him as a force of evil,
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the God of this age,
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or the ruler of the kingdom of the air.
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The Apostle Paul talks about his thorn in the flesh,
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his suffering,
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as a messenger of Satan.
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Luke tells us that when Jesus went around healing people,
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he was healing those
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who were under the power of the devil.
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So, second,
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Satan has had an influence
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and continues to have an influence
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in causing suffering.
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Third,
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God's judgment.
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As humans rebelled
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and as Satan influenced,
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the Bible is very clear
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why there is suffering.
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Suffering
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is in the world
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as a result of God's judgment
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on the world.
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Look at God's response
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to this rebellion
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and this
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satanic influence.
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Chapter 3,
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verse 14.
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So the Lord God said to the snake,
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because you have done this,
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cursed are you above all the livestock
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and all the wild animals.
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Verse 15.
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And I will put enmity
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between you and the woman
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and between her offspring
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and yours.
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So there's going to be this conflict
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continuously between Satan
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and people.
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Verse 16.
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To the woman, he said,
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I will make your pains
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in childbearing very severe.
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With painful labour,
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you will give birth to children.
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Your desire will be for your husband
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and he will rule over you.
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Now that last part is that
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she will want to
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dominate and rule over
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and your husband
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will want to rule over
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in a tyrannical kind of way.
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Verse 17.
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To Adam, he said,
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because you listened to your wife
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and ate fruit from the tree
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about which I commanded you,
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you must not eat from it.
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Cursed is the ground
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because of you.
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Through painful toil,
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you will eat food from it
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all the days of your life.
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It will produce thorns
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and thistles
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and you will eat the plants
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of the field.
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End of verse 19.
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For dust you are
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and to dust you will return.
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This curse,
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this judgment,
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comes from God
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and it results
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in all kinds of suffering.
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suffering.
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The sufferings we see
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and experience,
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whether it's physical,
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spiritual,
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social,
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relational,
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psychological,
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everything is now out of sync.
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The fabric of the universe
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has been undone.
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It's like somebody
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has pulled a thread
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and keeps pulling
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and everything is unravelling.
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And as a result,
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we now live in a world
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which is under the sentence
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of death.
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Paul describes this suffering
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as frustration.
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Have a look at Romans chapter 8.
Romans 8 chapter mention
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Romans chapter 8.
Romans 8 chapter mention
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Here it is described as frustration.
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The world doesn't function
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as it should.
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Everything is frustrated.
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Chapter 8, verse 20.
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For the creation
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was subjected to frustration
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not by its own choice,
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but by the will of the one
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who subjected it.
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Who subjected it?
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God subjected it
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to frustration.
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God subjected it
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to bondage
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and decay.
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And that judgment
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is being felt
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globally
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and personally
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every day.
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Now we mustn't think
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that God is sitting there
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in the throne of heaven
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thinking up
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terrible cancers
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and concocting
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terrible diseases
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that he can just
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unleash upon the world
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at will.
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No suffering
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suffering
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in all its
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different kinds
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are the consequences
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of rebellion.
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The results
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of satanic influence.
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The outworkings
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of God's judgment.
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But we ask
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why would God
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judge the world
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in this way?
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Well look at the rest
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of verse 20
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of Romans 8.
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God judges
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in hope
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that the creation
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itself
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will be liberated
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from its bondage
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to decay
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and brought
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into the freedom
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and glory
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of the children
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of God.
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God judges
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in such a way
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to show
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how terrible
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and awful
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sin is
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and how desperately
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we need a saviour
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who would come
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and intervene
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and liberate us
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and free us
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from a sin
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wrecked
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world.
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So in summary
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of the first
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God
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and the cause
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of suffering
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we can say
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that man
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is ultimately
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responsible
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Satan
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desires it
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and God
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has willed it.
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So first
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God
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and the cause
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of suffering.
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Second
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God
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and his
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control
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over suffering.
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While we
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live in a world
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that is broken
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and under
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God's judgment
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we mustn't
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fall into
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the false
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teaching
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that says
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and we hear
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it from people
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your suffering
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is a result
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of personal
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sin
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or your
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suffering
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is because
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you don't
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have enough
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faith.
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Many Christians
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operate in that
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way and it's
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dangerous
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and it's
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terrible.
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It's not
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what the
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Bible teaches.
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We should
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not view
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that every
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suffering
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we experience
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is a direct
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judgment
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from God.
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The level
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of our
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personal
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suffering
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is not
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equated
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with our
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level of
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personal
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sin.
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So if
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we are
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suffering
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in a
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particular
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way
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it's
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not
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because
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of
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the
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amount
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of
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sin
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I've
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done.
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So if
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I have
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some
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incurable
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unidentified
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disease
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it's not
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because
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necessarily
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there's a
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whole heap
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of sin
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in my
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life.
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Rather
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what we
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see and
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experience
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in our
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world
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today
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is the
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outworkings
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of what
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we looked
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at in
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part one.
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The
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outworkings
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of God's
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curse
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on the
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world.
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We live
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in the
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world that
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is frustrated
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under the
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sentence of
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death.
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And yet
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we live
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in a
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world where
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God
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controls
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and rules
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over all
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suffering.
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So let's
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turn to
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the book
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of Job.
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Go to
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the book
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of Job.
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The
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author
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at the
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very
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beginning
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wants us
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to know
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that Job
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is a
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good man.
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He's not
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sinless,
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he's not
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perfect,
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but he
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is
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righteous.
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So
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Job,
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just
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before
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Psalms,
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somebody
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got it
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there and
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I'll
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call out
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the
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number.
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509.
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509,
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Job
Job 1 chapter mention
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chapter
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1.
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So we
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read there,
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we're
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introduced
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to him
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that in
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the land
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of Uz
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there lived
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a man
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whose name
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was Job.
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This
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man was
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blameless
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and upright.
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He feared
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God and
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shunned
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evil.
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He even,
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verse 5,
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prayed for
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his children
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in case
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they had
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sinned.
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Job is
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set up
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before us
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as somebody
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who's
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innocent,
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but yet
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he has
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suffered
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terribly
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in three
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ways.
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First,
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he suffered
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at the
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hands
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of other
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men in
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verses 13
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and 17.
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Evil
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actions
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from
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outsiders.
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People
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have
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come in
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and it's
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meant he
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has lost
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his herds
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and his
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servants
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as they
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took them
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away.
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He
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suffers at
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the hands
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of other
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men.
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Second,
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he suffers
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natural
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disasters,
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we might
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call them
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in verses
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16 and
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19.
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A fire
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comes and
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a tornado
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comes that
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destroyed his
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animals and
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horrifically a
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wind comes
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in,
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knocks down
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the house
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and kills
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ten of
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his children,
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all of his
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children,
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their husbands
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and wives,
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gone in a
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moment.
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And then
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third,
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he suffers,
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we didn't
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read this,
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but have a
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look at
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chapter 2
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verse 7.
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He suffered
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personal
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illness
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and pain.
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Chapter 2
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verse 7,
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so Satan
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went out
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from the
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presence of
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the Lord
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and afflicted
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Job with
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painful sores
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and soles
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on his feet
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to the
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crown of
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his head,
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an excruciating
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flesh-eating
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disease
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from which
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there was
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no comfort.
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Job is
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an innocent
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man,
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yet he
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suffers
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terribly.
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And that
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is how
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most suffering
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appears to
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us.
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We can do
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nothing wrong,
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we can live
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God-honouring
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lives,
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and yet we
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can experience
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an incurable
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illness,
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we can face
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the death
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of our
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child,
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and we
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could lose
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everything in
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a moment.
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Why is
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this?
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we look
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out and
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we wonder,
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is anyone
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in control
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of all
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of this,
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or is
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this just
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a random
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set of
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events,
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and somehow
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I've just
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been dealt
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a bad set
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of cards,
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and I have
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to live
-
with it?
-
Well,
-
Job gives
-
us answers.
-
First,
-
Satan
-
causes the
-
suffering,
-
or does
-
he?
-
at first
-
it seems
-
Satan
-
caused
-
the
-
suffering.
-
Go back
-
to chapter
-
1,
-
verse 6.
-
One day
-
the angels
-
came to
-
present
-
themselves
-
before the
-
Lord,
-
and Satan
-
also came
-
with them.
-
The Lord
-
said to
-
Satan,
-
where have
-
you come
-
from?
-
Satan
-
answered
-
the Lord,
-
from roaming
-
throughout the
-
earth,
-
going to
-
and fro
-
in it.
-
What a
-
picture.
-
of evil
-
intent.
-
Roaming
-
around,
-
looking to
-
cause harm
-
and disorder.
-
And after
-
his conversation
-
with God
-
about this
-
person,
-
Job,
-
Job doesn't
-
know about
-
this conversation.
-
We read
-
in verse 11,
-
Satan
-
says to
-
God,
-
but now
-
stretch out
-
your hand
-
and strike
-
everything he
-
has,
-
and he
-
will surely
-
curse you
-
to your
-
face.
-
the Lord
-
said to
-
Satan,
-
very well
-
then,
-
everything he
-
has is in
-
your power,
-
but on
-
the man
-
himself do
-
not lay
-
a finger.
-
Then Satan
-
went out
-
from the
-
presence of
-
the Lord,
-
and the
-
suffering
-
begins.
-
The attacks
-
from evil
-
men,
-
the natural
-
disasters,
-
his personal
-
suffering.
-
suffering.
-
And in
-
regards to
-
his personal
-
suffering,
-
look at
-
verse 7
-
again,
-
chapter 2,
-
verse 7.
-
Satan
-
went out
-
from the
-
presence of
-
the Lord,
-
and afflicted
-
Job with
-
painful sores
-
and soles
-
on his feet
-
to the
-
crown of
-
his head.
-
Satan,
-
it seems,
-
has caused
-
the suffering
-
that has
-
come into
-
Job's
-
life.
-
Now,
-
that raises
-
big questions
-
for us.
-
If that
-
is true,
-
does that
-
mean Satan
-
has power
-
to do as
-
he pleases?
-
Do we
-
live in a
-
world in
-
which God
-
is just
-
simply an
-
opposite but
-
equal force,
-
kind of
-
darkness and
-
light, good
-
and evil,
-
50-50,
-
one against
-
the other,
-
in an arm
-
wrestle?
-
Who's going
-
to win?
-
Has God
-
got his
-
hands tied
-
trying to
-
second guess
-
Satan's
-
next move,
-
always playing
-
catch-up,
-
trying to
-
outwit each
-
other?
-
Well,
-
that's how
-
many people
-
view it,
-
but that's
-
not the
-
answer.
-
The answer
-
is more
-
complex and
-
difficult,
-
but yet
-
clear.
-
God is
-
supremely
-
in control
-
of all
-
suffering.
-
God is
-
in control
-
of all
-
suffering.
-
You see,
-
behind Satan's
-
desire to
-
destroy and
-
harm is
-
God's
-
sovereignty.
-
Satan is
-
on a
-
leash.
-
God has
-
him on a
-
lead.
-
Or as
-
Luther once
-
said,
-
he is
-
God's
-
Satan,
-
a servant
-
to God's
-
purposes.
-
Look carefully
-
at what God
-
says in
-
this discussion
-
with Satan.
-
First,
-
it's God
-
who initiates
-
the conversation
-
about Job.
-
So look at
-
chapter 1,
-
verse 8.
-
God initiates
-
the conversation
-
about Job.
-
1,
-
verse 8.
-
The Lord
-
said to
-
Satan,
-
have you
-
considered
-
my servant
-
Job?
-
So God
-
is in
-
charge of
-
all events
-
here,
-
not Satan.
-
Second,
-
it's God
-
who permits
-
the
-
suffering.
-
He
-
initiates
-
the
-
conversation,
-
he permits
-
the
-
suffering.
-
Chapter
-
1,
-
verse 12,
-
read it
-
carefully.
-
The Lord
-
said to
-
Satan,
-
very well
-
then,
-
everything
-
he has
-
is in
-
your power,
-
but on
-
the man
-
himself
-
do not
-
lay a
-
finger.
-
God
-
sets
-
boundaries.
-
Chapter
-
2,
-
verse 6.
-
The Lord
-
said to
-
Satan,
-
very well
-
then,
-
he is in
-
your hands,
-
but you
-
must spare
-
his life.
-
God
-
sets
-
boundaries.
-
You can
-
do this,
-
Satan.
-
You can
-
allow this
-
to happen,
-
but no
-
more
-
and no
-
further.
-
You will
-
not cross
-
the lines
-
that I
-
mark out.
-
Satan
-
can't
-
act
-
without
-
God's
-
permission,
-
without
-
God's
-
decree,
-
without
-
God's
-
say-so.
-
So,
-
he initiates
-
the conversation,
-
he permits
-
the suffering,
-
and third,
-
it is God
-
who
-
ultimately
-
is the
-
cause.
-
And I
-
use that
-
word
-
carefully
-
and with
-
great
-
consideration.
-
Look how
-
Job
-
responds
-
to the
-
suffering.
-
Chapter 1,
-
verse 20.
-
At this,
-
Job
-
got up,
-
tore his
-
robe,
-
shaved his
-
head,
-
then he
-
fell to the
-
ground in
-
worship and
-
said,
-
Naked I
-
came from
-
my mother's
-
womb,
-
and naked
-
I shall
-
depart.
-
the Lord
-
gave,
-
and the
-
Lord
-
has taken
-
away.
-
The
-
Lord
-
has taken
-
away.
-
He's taken
-
away the
-
flocks and
-
herds,
-
he's taken
-
away the
-
servants,
-
he's taken
-
away my
-
children.
-
May the
-
name of the
-
Lord be
-
praised.
-
in all
-
this,
-
Job did
-
not sin
-
by charging
-
God with
-
wrongdoing.
-
God has
-
done no
-
wrong in
-
what has
-
happened.
-
And
-
concerning his
-
own health,
-
chapter 2,
-
verse 9,
-
his wife
-
said to
-
him,
-
to Job,
-
this is in
-
his personal
-
illness,
-
are you
-
still maintaining
-
your integrity?
-
Curse God
-
and die.
-
Job replied,
-
you are
-
talking like
-
a foolish
-
woman.
-
Shall we
-
accept good
-
from God
-
and not
-
trouble?
-
Do we
-
just accept
-
that in
-
the course
-
of life,
-
God is
-
in control
-
of good
-
things,
-
but not
-
in control
-
of the
-
hard things
-
and the
-
bad things
-
that happen
-
in our
-
life?
-
In fact,
-
look at
-
how the
-
author
-
summarizes
-
what happened
-
to Job.
-
Go to
-
the end
-
of the
-
book,
-
chapter 42,
-
verse 11.
-
Here is,
-
if you like,
-
the summary,
-
the conclusion
-
of the whole
-
book.
-
chapter 42,
-
verse 11.
-
All his
-
brothers and
-
sisters and
-
everyone who
-
had known
-
him before
-
came and ate
-
with him in
-
his house.
-
They comforted
-
and consoled
-
him over
-
all the
-
trouble the
-
Lord had
-
brought on
-
him.
-
They
-
comforted
-
and consoled
-
him over
-
all the
-
trouble the
-
Lord had
-
brought on
-
him.
-
And each
-
one gave
-
him a
-
piece of
-
silver and
-
a gold
-
ring.
-
God
-
is the
-
ultimate
-
cause
-
because God
-
is the
-
one who
-
is ultimately
-
in control.
-
You see,
-
if God
-
is not
-
in control,
-
if God
-
is not
-
in charge,
-
then Satan
-
is.
-
And at
-
best,
-
God is
-
just an
-
equal but
-
opposite
-
force,
-
trying to
-
do his
-
best,
-
locked in
-
an arm
-
wrestle,
-
who's
-
going to
-
win?
-
And as
-
difficult
-
and as
-
hard as
-
it is to
-
read these
-
words and
-
understand the
-
minds and
-
the ways of
-
God,
-
God is
-
in control
-
of all
-
suffering.
-
Nothing
-
happens in
-
your life
-
without his
-
say-so.
-
Not one
-
thing.
-
Every one
-
of our
-
days has
-
been written
-
before one
-
of them
-
came to
-
be.
-
Not one
-
thing is
-
outside of
-
the control
-
of God.
-
Not one.
-
And if
-
God is in
-
supreme
-
control,
-
and if
-
God is
-
sovereign
-
over the
-
order and
-
events of
-
this life,
-
then here
-
is a
-
God who
-
not only
-
helps us,
-
but a
-
God who
-
can use
-
the frustrations
-
and the
-
sufferings
-
and the
-
struggles
-
and trials
-
we may
-
go through
-
for good
-
purposes.
-
others.
-
So God
-
and the
-
cause of
-
suffering,
-
God and
-
his
-
control
-
over
-
suffering.
-
And third,
-
God and
-
his cross
-
for our
-
suffering.
-
You see,
-
from what we've
-
looked at so
-
far, it may
-
appear that
-
God is
-
cold and
-
unmoved.
-
in fact,
-
it's as if
-
God is
-
sitting in
-
the comfort
-
of another
-
world,
-
immune to
-
the hurts
-
and pains
-
of life.
-
But we
-
need to
-
remember that
-
just as God
-
in his
-
sovereignty,
-
and in
-
what in
-
some ways
-
remains a
-
mystery to
-
us,
-
that God
-
who chooses
-
suffering for
-
the world
-
and our
-
lives,
-
has also
-
chosen suffering
-
for himself.
-
First,
-
God suffers
-
with us.
-
The unique,
-
and it
-
remains unique
-
to the
-
God of
-
the Bible,
-
to Christianity,
-
and the
-
wonderful truth
-
is that
-
God has
-
come to
-
us in
-
the person
-
of Jesus
-
Christ.
-
God
-
comes to
-
suffer
-
with us.
-
Let's
-
have a look
-
at Philippians
Philippians 2 chapter mention
-
chapter 2.
-
Philippians,
-
Galatians,
-
Ephesians,
-
Philippians
Philippians 2 chapter mention
-
chapter 2.
-
Again,
-
if somebody
-
has a page
-
number just
-
to help us
-
all.
-
1-1-8-0.
-
Thereabouts.
-
Philippians
Philippians 2 chapter mention
-
chapter 2,
-
anyway.
-
Philippians
Philippians 2 chapter mention
-
chapter 2,
-
chapter 2.
-
So God
-
suffers
-
with us.
-
Chapter 2,
-
verse 6,
-
tells us
-
this.
-
Speaking of
-
Christ,
-
verse 6,
-
who,
-
who,
-
who,
-
being in
-
very nature
-
God,
-
did not
-
consider
-
equality
-
with God
-
something to
-
be used
-
to his
-
own
-
advantage.
-
Rather,
-
he made
-
himself
-
nothing
-
by taking
-
the very
-
nature of
-
a servant
-
being made
-
in human
-
likeness.
-
God
-
became
-
one of
-
us.
-
He never
-
ever ceased
-
to be
-
God.
-
And yet,
-
he became
-
fully human.
-
And in
-
Christ,
-
God lived
-
and experienced
-
the pains
-
and hurts
-
of life.
-
He understands
-
what it is
-
to live
-
in a broken
-
and a dying
-
world.
-
And when
-
personal suffering
-
came to
-
Christ,
-
look closely
-
at verse 6.
-
He did
-
not consider
-
equality
-
with God
-
something to
-
be used
-
to his
-
own
-
advantage.
-
So,
-
Christ did
-
not exploit
-
his
-
Godness
-
or his
-
divinity
-
and somehow
-
escape the
-
suffering.
-
He submitted
-
himself to
-
suffering.
-
Something bad
-
came along.
-
It wasn't
-
that he kind
-
of flicked
-
the God
-
switch and
-
go,
-
right,
-
let's end
-
the suffering
-
here.
-
No,
-
he remained
-
fully God
-
and as
-
fully man
-
he submitted
-
himself
-
to the
-
frustrations
-
and the
-
broken and
-
decaying and
-
dying world.
-
You see,
-
here we see
-
a God
-
who desperately
-
loves us
-
and cares
-
for us,
-
that he
-
would suffer
-
with us.
-
He enters
-
our pain
-
so that
-
when we
-
cry out
-
to God,
-
he understands.
-
A God
-
who knows.
-
Not just
-
because he's
-
God,
-
but because
-
he's experienced
-
it himself.
-
God is not
-
distant and
-
removed,
-
unfeeling and
-
uncaring.
-
He knows
-
your hurts.
-
He subjected
-
himself to
-
suffering.
-
He suffers
-
with you.
-
suffering.
-
But more
-
than that,
-
he suffers
-
for us.
-
Look at
-
verse 8.
-
Being found
-
in appearance
-
as a man,
-
he humbled
-
himself
-
by becoming
-
obedient to
-
death,
-
even death
-
on the cross.
-
The cross
-
of God
-
is the
-
ultimate
-
suffering
-
of God.
-
God
-
suffers
-
for us.
-
We talked
-
earlier about
-
God's judgment
-
on the world
-
because of
-
sinful rebellion
-
and that
-
judgment would
-
continue for
-
an eternity
-
unless God
-
did something
-
about it.
-
And the
-
glorious news
-
is God
-
has done
-
something about
-
it.
-
He stepped
-
in.
-
The hope
-
was,
-
Romans 8
-
verse 20,
-
21,
-
was that
-
creation would
-
be liberated
-
from its
-
bondage
-
of decay.
-
And he
-
does that
-
by intervening
-
into the
-
world in
-
the person
-
of his
-
Son,
-
taking on
-
himself my
-
sin and
-
your sin,
-
suffering the
-
judgment of
-
God for
-
us.
-
And as
-
Christ hung
-
on the
-
cross,
-
as he
-
experienced
-
that suffering,
-
he cried
-
out,
-
my God,
-
my God,
-
why have
-
you forsaken
-
me?
-
And at
-
that moment,
-
Christ suffers
-
the abandonment
-
of God.
-
He suffers
-
in its
-
fullest sense,
-
the wrath
-
of God.
-
He suffers
-
hell.
-
He suffers
-
for me.
-
He suffers
-
for you.
-
And as we
-
trust him,
-
we can be
-
forgiven and
-
freed from
-
an eternal
-
judgment to
-
come.
-
Set free
-
from what
-
our sins
-
deserve,
-
liberated so
-
that one
-
day we
-
might receive
-
the redemption
-
of our
-
bodies.
-
God suffers
-
the ultimate
-
suffering for
-
us so that
-
we do not
-
have to
-
suffer
-
eternally.
-
You see,
-
suffering
-
causes us
-
and says,
-
look at the
-
cross.
-
Come and
-
see the
-
God who
-
suffers with
-
us, but
-
look at the
-
God who
-
suffers for
-
you.
-
A God who
-
loves you
-
deeply and
-
immensely.
-
Out of
-
compassion and
-
mercy, he
-
comes to
-
deal with
-
our suffering.
-
In all our
-
questions, we
-
must never
-
forget that
-
when God
-
chose suffering
-
for this
-
world, he
-
chose suffering
-
for himself.
-
and it's
-
through his
-
suffering that
-
will come
-
our healing.
-
So where
-
does this
-
leave us?
-
Trust God.
-
I'm aware
-
because I
-
have scribbled
-
out, rewritten,
-
re-read,
-
scribbled out
-
again, because
-
I don't have my
-
questions answered.
-
Things remain
-
unresolved in
-
my mind.
-
We can still
-
be angry.
-
I get that.
-
Anger is
-
understandable.
-
We can still
-
be hurting.
-
It's natural.
-
Our hurts
-
don't go
-
away.
-
It's hard for
-
us to reconcile
-
why God
-
wills and
-
permits and
-
at times
-
causes
-
suffering.
-
And then at
-
the same time
-
we read that
-
he submits
-
to suffering
-
and he
-
suffers with
-
us and
-
for us
-
so that
-
all suffering
-
would come
-
to an end.
-
And we
-
can't cope
-
with it.
-
We can't
-
hold this
-
together.
-
And yet
-
it's true.
-
Where we
-
cannot see
-
what is
-
going on
-
or make
-
sense of
-
what is
-
happening,
-
what we
-
can see
-
is a
-
God who
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is in
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control of
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all things,
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who is
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over every
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detail of
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your life
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and over
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everything in
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this world,
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over Satan
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himself.
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Therefore,
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we can
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trust him.
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In our
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questioning,
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let God
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answer.
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Listen
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to what
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he says.
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Let God
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be God.
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Trust the
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God who
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suffers with
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us and
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for us
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to end
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all
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suffering.
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Let's
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pray.
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Let's
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pray.
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Let's
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pray.
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Let's
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pray.
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Let's
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pray.
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Let's
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pray.
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Let's
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pray.
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Let's
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pray.
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Let's
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pray.
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Let's
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pray.
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Lord God,
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we
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struggle
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right now.
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We're
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struggling.
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We
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struggle to
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understand
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everything.
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We
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struggle to
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understand the
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suffering that
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we are
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experiencing
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or we
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see loved
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ones going
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through.
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We
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confess that
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we can be
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angry.
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And we
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bring it
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all before
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you and
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ask that
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you would
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help us
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to trust
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you as
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the God
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who is
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over all
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things,
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the God
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who came
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to suffer
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for us
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to end
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all
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suffering
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so that
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we might
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have life
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with you.
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Help us
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to walk
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with you
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through
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these
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series
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of talks.
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Father,
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would you
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teach us
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and would
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you help
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us where
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we cannot
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see to
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keep
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trusting you
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to know
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that you
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have us
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in your
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arms of
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love and
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you will
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never,
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ever let
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us go.
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Help us.
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In Jesus'
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name we
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pray.
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Amen.