Sermon
Rick Warren - The Only Family That Will Last Forever
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Transcript
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I haven't told you since last year that I love you.
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What can I say? You ought to feel neglected, but
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I do. You pull out your message notes. You know,
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in life, it's very important at different times in your
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life to pause and just stop and ask the question, why?
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Why am I doing this? What am I doing and
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why am I doing this? Why always determines how and
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how long. Now, we're starting a brand new year, a
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brand new decade. We're starting our 40th anniversary year as
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a church. And I want us to just take a
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couple weeks and pause and go, what is church and
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why do we do it? I think it's important to
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go back and remind ourselves what this is all about. Now,
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we're gonna start at the beginning. Watch up here on
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the screen. The Bible says in Hebrews 2.10, God is
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the one who made everything. That's where we start. We
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start with God made everything. And all things are for
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his glory. You and every plant and animal and rock
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are for his glory. But he wanted to have children
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to share his glory. The Bible says God invented the
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universe because he wanted a family. God wasn't lonely, God
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is love, but he didn't need us, but he wanted
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a family to love and to share his glory. And
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so he created the universe. Now the Bible says this
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in Ephesians chapter one. God's unchanging plan, from the very
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beginning of time, has always been to adopt us into
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his own family by bringing us to himself through Jesus Christ.
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So the whole reason everything exists is God wanted a family,
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and he wants that family to be with him forever
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and ever and ever. He puts us here on earth
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as a trial test, but what is that family called? Well,
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we've talked about this before. That family is called the church.
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Jesus said in Ephesians, excuse me, Jesus said in Matthew 16,
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verse 18, I will build my church He didn't say,
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I'll build a government. He didn't say, I'll build a nation.
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He didn't say, I'll build a business. He said, I
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will build my church. Jesus is only interested, God is
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only interested in his family. Everything else is gonna burn up.
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The only thing on planet Earth that's gonna last is
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God's family. He says, I will build my church and
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all the powers of hell will not defeat it. The
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most successful human movement of all time is the church
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of God. 2.3 billion believers, followers of Christ. The church
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is the largest organization on the planet. Nothing comes close.
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The church at 2.3 billion believers is bigger than China.
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The church is bigger than China and the United States
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and all of Europe put together. Nothing as big as
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the planet, the movement of God. You're not just part
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of an organization. You're part of a movement, and that
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movement is gonna go on for eternity in heaven. Jesus said,
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I will build my church, and no dictator and no
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ism can stop it. Now, sometimes you hear people say, well,
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I love Jesus, but I don't need the church. No, no,
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that's a really big mistake people make, because you can't
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love Jesus. without loving his bride, his body, his family,
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his flock. You can't love Jesus. In fact, the Bible
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says this in Ephesians chapter five, verse 25. Christ loves
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his church. Whatever he loves, you better love too. Christ
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loves his church and he gave his life for it.
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Christ died for the church. So don't ever say it's unimportant.
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Don't ever say it's, the only people that are gonna
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be in heaven is the church. Nobody else is, that's
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his family. It's his family. Now it has different labels
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on it. Methodist, Baptist, Episcopalian, Catholic, Nazarene, Calvary Chapel, all
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the labels are irrelevant. The fact is the people who
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are the followers of Christ, they're part of his family,
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that's all that's gonna be in heaven. And he built
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the universe because he wanted a family. Now, let's just
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start with the basics. What is a church? When I
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say the word church, some people think of a building. No,
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a church is not a building. A church is not
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a location. So when I say church, people think of
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something they go to attend. People often say, well, I'm
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going to church. Technically, that's a wrong statement. The church
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is not something you attend. It's a family that you
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belong to. Really, it'd be more accurate to not say
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I'm going to church, but saying I'm going to a
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worship service. Or I'm going to a Bible study. or
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I'm going to a fellowship, or I'm going to an
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activity of the church. You can't go to a church.
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A church is not an event. It has events, but
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the church is the family of God. Church is not
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an event you attend. It is a family you belong to.
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Does that make sense? Okay, so it's not something you
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go to. To actually say, well, I'm going to church,
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you really mean to say, I'm going to worship, or
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I'm going to service, or I'm going to Bible study, whatever.
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So it's not a place, it's not an event, it's
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not an institution. I'm going to give you a very
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specific biblical definition of the church. I'd like for you
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to write these four phrases down, okay? Number one, because
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once I explain this, then I'm gonna show you five
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benefits of being a part of God's family. Number one,
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what is a church? The church is God's family on
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earth and in heaven. God's family on earth and in heaven.
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The church isn't just on, on earth. Many people are
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already in heaven. So some of the church, that's God's family,
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is already in heaven. Some of the church is still
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here on earth. But the church is both in heaven
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and on earth, and it is God's family. First Timothy
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chapter three, verses 14 and 15 says this. I'm writing
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to you so that you'll know how to live in
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the family of God. We need to learn how to
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live in God's family. That family is the church of
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the living God. The support and foundation of the truth.
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So anytime you talk about the church, you're talking about
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God's family. Anytime you talk about God's family, you're talking
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about the church. There is no family of God outside
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of the church. It is the same. So it's God's
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family on heaven and earth. Number two, it's composed of
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saved and baptized believers. The church is composed of saved
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and baptized believers. Now you might have your name on
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a roll as a child in some church, but that
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doesn't make you a part of the church. It just
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means you're on somebody's roll. You have to be saved
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and you have to be baptized to be a part
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of the church of God. Let me just show you
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what Jesus said. Mark chapter 16, verse 16. Whoever believes
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in me, Jesus said, and is baptized will be saved.
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But whoever refuses to believe will be condemned. Now, some
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people look at that and go, oh, are you saying
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that I have to be baptized in order to be saved,
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that it's essential for salvation? No, I'm not. No water
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will save you. Only Jesus can save you. No water
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will save you. But if you really are saved, you
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wanna be baptized. It's a contradiction to say, well, I'm
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a follower of Christ, but I don't do what he
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tells me to do. That's a contradiction. So maybe you're
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not really saved. Baptism is what I call the wedding
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ring of the Christian life. This ring doesn't make me married.
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It was the commitment in my heart that made me
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married when I said I do. This ring is the
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outward expression. It reminds me, oh, I made a vow
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in my heart. Baptism is the wedding ring of the
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Christian life. It doesn't make you a Christian. It shows
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that you are. And anybody who refuses to be baptized,
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you at every reason of doubt, they've had a commitment
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in their heart. Because the first thing Jesus said is,
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be baptized as this outward symbol of your inward commitment.
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So it doesn't make you a Christian, but notice he says,
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anyone who believes and is baptized. Which comes first, believing
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or baptism? Believing, right? You believe and then you're baptized. Now,
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if you were baptized before you believed, it didn't count.
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You don't get any blessing from that. You need to
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do it again, because it meant nothing. You just got wet. Okay,
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that's all it means. Baptism only matters if you believe first.
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Some of you don't even remember your baptism. So how
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could you possibly believe? Because maybe you weren't even old
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enough to know that. So you believe, Jesus said, and
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then you're baptized. Let me show you a couple of
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other verses. Acts chapter two, verse 38. This is the
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day of Pentecost. This is the day that Jesus began
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his church. And Peter preached this sermon. He said this,
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repent and be baptized, this is the first day of
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the church, in the name of Jesus Christ for the
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forgiveness of your sin. Then God will give you his
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Holy Spirit. Now in Romans chapter eight it says if
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you don't have God's Spirit in you, you're not a Christian.
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You're not saved. To not have God's spirit would mean
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you don't really know the Lord yet. So he says,
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whoever believes in being baptized, he'll be saved. And then
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Peter says, repent and be baptized. Now, in that verse,
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which one comes first? Repent or be baptized? Repent, right?
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So if you were baptized before you repented, it didn't count.
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As I said, it was just a nice little ritual,
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but it meant nothing. You got no spiritual blessing out
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of it, because you didn't even know what the meaning
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of baptism was. It comes after you believe, and it
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comes after you repent. Now, here's what happens. Same day,
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Acts 2 verse 41, it says, then those who believed,
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they believed first, were then baptized. See, believing comes before baptized.
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And then they became part of the church. Baptism is
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the entry door to the church. About 3,000 people that day.
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So baptism doesn't bless you if you did it out
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of order. And if you believed after you were baptized,
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you need to be baptized again. Because it didn't mean anything,
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it didn't mean what the meaning of baptism is all about,
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all right? So it's God's family on earth, it's composed
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of saved and baptized believers. Third part is this, it's
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people who are committed to Jesus and each other. To
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be a part of the church means I'm not just
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committed to Jesus, I'm committed to the other people in
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my church family. A church means I am committed to
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Jesus and to each other. Now let me show you
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a few verses about this. 2 Corinthians 8, verse five. First,
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it says, they gave themselves to the Lord, and then, second,
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by God's will, they gave themselves to us as well.
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This is what we call the first base commitment at Saddleback. First,
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you give yourself to the Lord, And then you give
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yourself to a group of other Christians. The first one
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makes you a Christian. The second one makes you a
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church member. Let me say it again. First they gave
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themselves to the Lord. That's how you get saved. You
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give your life to the Lord. And it says, and
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then they gave themselves to us as well. That's what
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it means to be a church member. You become a
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Christian by giving your life to Christ. You become a
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church member by giving yourself to a group of other
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people and say, that's gonna be my spiritual home. That's
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gonna be my family. That's gonna be my spiritual base
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for my life. While I'm here in this area, whatever.
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It is a commitment, not simply to Christ, it's a
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commitment to another group of other people. And we're gonna
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look at that today. Let me show you some other verses.
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Romans 12, verse 10 says, you are to be devoted,
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circle this, to each other. Not just to God, you
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will be devoted to each other as brothers and sisters
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in God's loving family. That's what it means to be
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a church member. You're not just committed to Christ, you're
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committed to his family. You're committed to your brothers and
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sisters in that family. Romans chapter 14, excuse me, Romans
Romans 14 chapter mention
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12 verse four and five. In Christ's body, each member
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belongs to who? All the others. You realize this, that
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in this church family, I belong to you, you belong
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to me, we belong to each other. That's what it
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means to be a member of a family. Now notice
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it has the word member there. Sometimes you'll hear people say,
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I've actually heard preachers on the radio say this. Well,
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there's no such thing as church membership in the Bible.
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That's just nonsense. The word member came from the Bible.
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There was no word member until it was in the Bible.
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The word member is used about 100 times in the
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New Testament. The whole concept of membership was only about
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the church until other people picked it up and all
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of a sudden, you know, American Express says membership has
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its privileges. No, so now you can be a member
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of my book club, you can be a member of
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my Facebook following, you can be a member of some
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of the Rotary Club, you can be members of a
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million other things. But the word member came from the Bible.
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And it's talking about being a member of a local
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body of Christ. And it's used in a very different way.
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It's not talking about secret handshakes and funny hats and
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passwords and stuff like that. What is it talking about
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in member? Well, look on the screen. 1 Corinthians 12,
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12 to 14. Just as your body has many members.
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What are we talking about there? Your hand is a
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member of your body. Your ear is a member of
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your body. Your eye is a member of your body.
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Your nose, your spleen, your liver. These are all members
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of your body. Just as your body has many members,
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and each member of your body is unique. The liver
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doesn't do what the heart does. All your members together
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Form your single body, physically. So it is with Christ's body.
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He says it's the exact same thing, physical parallel to
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a spiritual parallel. Christ's body is the church. He said
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all the members of the church make up the body
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of Christ, all right? So he's saying here that only
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as you're connected does it really, really matter. And then
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he says the rest of it. He says this, for
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in one spirit, We were all baptized into one body,
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regardless of our background, whether Jews or Gentiles or slaves
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or free, we all received God's Spirit. He said, it
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doesn't matter what your background is, religious background, ethnic background,
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language background, racial background, none of that really matters. He says,
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regardless of your background, we all receive God's spirit. That's
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what puts us in the body. We're baptized into one body,
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so the body isn't made up of just one member.
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It's all the members connected together. And what is that saying?
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It's saying this, you are not the church of God
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by yourself. You are not the family of God by yourself.
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You're not the body of Christ by yourself. Only as
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we are connected together, Are we the family of God?
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Are we the body of Christ? Are we God's church?
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I'm not the church. You're not the church. But together,
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we are the church. And he said it's in that connection.
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So only in connection to other members are you actually
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in God's family. If you're not connected to other members,
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how are you in God's family? So what does that
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mean then? What does that mean to be a part
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of the body of Christ? Look at these verses. First
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Corinthians 12, 25. The way God designed our bodies, physical bodies,
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is a model for understanding our lives together as a church.
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He says, okay, look at your body and then you'll
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figure out how the church operates. Every part is to
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be dependent on the other parts. I can't say that
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I don't need this part or I don't need that part.
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We all need each other and we are to be
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dependent on the other parts. It was his intention that
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we live our lives together. God never meant for you
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to go through life on your own. Now, let me
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show you another verse. 1 Corinthians 12, 25 to 27.
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The members, notice how many times this word member comes
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up in the Bible. The members must have the same
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care for each other. That means I gotta care about you,
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you gotta care about me. We have to care about
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each other. If we are in the family of God,
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if we are in the body of Christ called Saddleback
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or whatever, there are lots of good churches, just choose one.
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I'm not saying just this church, I'm just saying just
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choose a place that's gonna be my family. The members
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must have the same care for each other. If one
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member is hurt or suffers, then all suffer together. And
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if one member is honored, all the others rejoice. In
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other words, you get a raise, you get promoted, the
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whole church should celebrate with you. You get the word,
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dreaded word cancer, the whole church should support you when
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you're going through those protocols. You are the body of
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Christ and each one of you is a necessary part
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of it. There's no unnecessary part. People say, well, I'm
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not very necessary in my church. Oh, how wrong you are.
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If I don't use my gifts, you get hurt. If
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you don't use your gifts, I get hurt, so does
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everybody else. We all have a different role to play.
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Now let me pause here and review what I've said
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about what is the church. First I said it's God's
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family that's in heaven and on earth. Some's in heaven,
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some's on earth. I said it's composed of saved and
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baptized believers. If you're not saved, you're not baptized, you're
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not a part of the church. Number three, they're committed
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to Jesus and each other. We commit to him and
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we commit to each other. But then there's one other
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fourth part. Write this down. These are people who are
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preparing for heaven or Christ's return. Preparing for heaven or
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Christ's return. That's what the church is doing. So either
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Jesus comes back before I die or he doesn't come
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back before I die and I go to heaven first.
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Either way, I'm preparing for eternity with Jesus. With him.
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Hebrews chapter 12 verse 23 is an important verse. It
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says this. you are the church of God's children. Okay,
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remember it's the family of God. You are the church
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of God's children whose names are registered in heaven. You
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ought to be grateful for that because you have come
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to God Himself and you have come To Jesus. Now
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notice this. Your names are registered in heaven. You know,
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I've met a few of these Hollywood types and done
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some Bible studies for producers and stuff like that up
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in Hollywood. And the big deal in Hollywood is to
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get on the A-list. Because if you're on the A-list,
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you get invited to all the A-list parties. You don't
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want to be on the B-list or the C-list or
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like some of us, the Z-list. Okay? Because you really
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want to be, because the A-list are the best parties
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after the Oscars and stuff like that. Well, let me
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tell you something. There's something better than being on the
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A list. It's being on God's register of names in heaven. Hello?
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That is a big deal, okay? That is a very
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exclusive list. Not everybody's gonna be on that list. Only
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those who've been saved and baptized and joined a part
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of God's family. Only God's family is gonna be in heaven.
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But that's a very exclusive list. Most important invitation list
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you wanna be a part of. How do I get
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on that list? Well, that verse said, get to know,
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you've come to know God and you've come to know Jesus.
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You come to God and you come to Jesus. Now,
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we're gonna, in just a second, look at five different
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metaphors of the church and what the benefits of that
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means to your life. But this week, I did something fun.
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I went and I got the original three members of
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Saddleback Church, Don Dale, who was the first member of
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the church who joined Kay and me, and Lee and
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Cynthia Hensler, who were the first people baptized in this church.
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And those three were in the very first class 101
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that I taught 40 years ago. And I found, oh,
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you can see it on the video, but I videotaped
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this interview, and I want you to watch this. I've
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got a real treat for you today. My oldest friends
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at Saddleback Church are sitting on this couch and they're
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really old. We're gonna talk about what membership means. These
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are people from the very first membership class. I found
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this article in the Saddleback News, a copy that said,
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we welcomed 42 new members, this is in 2008, 1980
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at the very first 101 class including Don Dale who
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was the first member of Saddleback Church and you've heard
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the famous story of how we met and he got
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home for us and then has been here for all
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40 years and the 12 weeks before that and then
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Lee and Cynthia Hensler Cynthia Hensler and Lee were the
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first two people baptized in Saddleback Church and she was
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the first person who called You remember that? Yes. Tell
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me about that, because we hand-addressed and hand-stamped 15,000 letters.
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Don was involved, obviously, in that.
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Well, we wanted to find a church, not for us,
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but we had a brand new baby.
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A new baby, didn't you?
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Yeah.
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We thought part of.
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The formula for being good parents would take the child
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to church.
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By the way, Courtney was the first diaper change at
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Saddleback Church.
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And she also bit your daughter.
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She did bit my daughter, who was just a couple
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months older. Very first bit, yes.
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Blood sisters.
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Yes.
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But we decided we wanted to find a church so
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we could be those good parents.
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Yeah.
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And the letter arrived.
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Yeah.
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And didn't give us too much information other than where
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it met and what time.
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Right.
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So I just had a few other questions I needed
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to ask.
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So you called. And I kept a record. I still
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have this record of everybody who called from that letter.
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And the first one was Cynthia Hensler.
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Cindy.
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Cindy at the time, exactly, that's true. That's true. And
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I was trying to go by Richard, but it didn't work, so.
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I was trying to look older than I really was.
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And Don was actually the old man at the time,
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so anyway. Don and Lee and Cynthia, I want to
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just talk about, well, first, everybody's going to want to know,
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what's it like to have been through 40 years of
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Saddleback Church? Absolutely amazing. And I did go to the
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very first service. You did.
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And I listened to you read that first letter of
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what your vision was for this church.
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Yeah, yeah. That is just really a wild thing. I
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just wondered if I could really do it. I did too.
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I wasn't even a Christian at the time. I just
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had nothing to do on Easter Sunday.
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So I went to the church that was meeting in
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the school I taught at. Yeah, that's true. You taught
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it at Laguna Hills High School. That's right.
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And so I did it in there with no expectation.
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My real reason was I was going to go and
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see what it was like so I could tell her, oh,
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let's not bother. when she came back. But I heard
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something entirely different that I've never heard before about that
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relationship with Jesus Christ.
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I've never heard that before.
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We had no idea what was in store for us.
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Don, talk about all of the prep that we did
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getting ready for that first service.
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What was it, 15,000 letters?
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15,000 letters, yeah.
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Rick did not want them computer generated.
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Hand addressed them.
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I think we licked stamps.
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We stamped them, hand stamped them.
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And licked the envelope closed and figured out some sort
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of method.
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We all had this thick mucus on our licks.
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It basically just said, we got good news for you.
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Visit us. You got it. That's it. That's exactly right.
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We've got good news. That's how we started. And I'll
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never forget at the first service when 205 people walked
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up that walkway to Laguna Hills High School and Kay
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looked at me with tears in her eyes and she goes,
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this is going to work. That was Easter Sunday.
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Remember we did a service a week ahead?
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That's true. It's exactly what would happen. Exactly. And we
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had 60 people at that.
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And my dad's a minister.
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I called my dad and I said... 60.
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People showed up. On the trial run service.
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On the trial run, and my dad goes, 60? We
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only got 100 in our church. You got 60 for
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the first service?
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Yeah, right.
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What's going on?
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Exactly.
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My dad was amazed.
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I was amazed. I thought, wow, maybe this.
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There is something.
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Yeah, five people gave their lives to Christ in the
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trial run service. And some of their names, Carl and
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Linda Bolt were two of the ones who gave their
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lives to Christ. Gary and Pat Streed. I remember they
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wrote on a card, they said, Rick, help us. And
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I thought they were having just typical problems, marriage problems
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or something. I called them up and said, how can
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I help you? They said, oh, we just want to
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know how to give our lives to Christ. And that
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was it.
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That's how it started. So we've seen a lot. We
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had to set up the nursery. We had to figure
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out what we're going to do with the kids. What
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are we going to do with the youth? Who's going
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to play the music?
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If you were a warm body, you could be a
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youth worker.
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Breeders and all this stuff.
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We take it for granted today.
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We're only.
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10 or 15 of us to do all this.
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This is an interesting point that Don's making, that before
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the first service, this little Bible study grew to about
-
15 people. And many of them had not given their
-
lives to Christ. They were non-believers. I actually had non-believers
-
helping us plan the service. And I said, you know,
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Bob Jacoby, I said, you're going to be the usher.
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And Terry, you're going to plan this. And we had
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non-Christians helping us plan a church service for non-Christians.
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Rick?
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Yeah.
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Within the first month of the church, we asked Lee
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and I to... do one of the Bible studies after
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the service.
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You're it.
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We didn't do that until about the sixth or seventh.
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I remember that, exactly, yeah. Oh, you're a teacher, you
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could be a Bible study leader. You could be a
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Bible study leader, exactly. We later did that in prison
-
where we pointed to people and said, point around, will
-
we choose Bubba to be our Bible study leader? Bubba goes,
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I'm not a Christian. No, but you're a leader, so
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you can ask the questions. So it was the whole
-
idea that we want to... convince people is it was
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all hands on deck. There were literally no spectators. Once
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you start coming week number two, you're a participator. You know?
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I probably talked on the phone a couple times a day.
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A day. Daily at least. Exactly. Exactly.
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Let's keep working.
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Exactly.
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That was how the church functioned.
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No, that's exactly right, Don. Okay. Now, there are 67
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different metaphors in the Bible. The metaphors are names of
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the church. What I want to do in the last
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few minutes here is talk to you about five of
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them and show you the benefits. What are the benefits
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of belonging? So the Bible calls the church many different things,
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but let's just look at five. Would you write these down?
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The first metaphor is the most well-known one, which is
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the church is a family. Okay, it's a family. And
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there are many, many implications for that, but The one
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thing I want to focus on is that in a
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healthy family, you learn who you are. So write this down.
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Number one, in God's family, I learn my true identity.
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That's the first benefit of actually being a member of
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a local church. church. In God's family, I learn my
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true identity. Have you ever thought about why people wear brands?
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You know, they'll say Ralph Lauren or Ruka or Vans
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or Tommy Hilfiger or whatever. Why do people wear brands?
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To identify. To feel like they belong to something. They like,
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they think that this is a cool brand. If I
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wear this brand, then I'm cool. And so we identify
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with brands because it helps us identify. But in reality,
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your primary identity doesn't come from what you wear. Your
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primary identity comes from relationships. I am a son, I
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am a brother,
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These are all relationships in my life that define
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who Rick Warren is. It's not how I look, it's
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not how little or much money I've got, it's what
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are my relationships. You're defined by relationships. If my connections
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are bad, or my connections are broken, then my identity suffers.
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If I just got fired, or I just got divorced,
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or my spouse dies, if something changes in my relationships,
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it causes me to pause and go, who am I?
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Who am I? Because your primary identity comes from your relationships. Now,
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I know what some of you think. You say, Rick,
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that's terrible news for me because my family was dysfunctional,
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my family was broken, or maybe my family was nonexistent. Well,
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I got good news for you. The next verse on
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your outline, Ephesians 2.19. You are a member of, there's
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that word member, you are a member of God's very
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own family and you belong in God's household with every
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other Christian. This is your family. This, you belong here,
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you fit here. Now actually, hear me out on this.
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Your spiritual family is far more important even than your
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physical family. God used your physical family to bring you
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into the world so you could become a part of
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his spiritual family. You should be grateful that your physical
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family got together, whatever the circumstances are, doesn't matter, God
-
wanted you alive because he wanted you to be a
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part of his spiritual family. Why is my spiritual family,
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the church, more important than my physical family? Because your
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physical family doesn't last. People die, people grow old, people
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move away, people divorce, there's all kinds of different things,
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it doesn't last. But God's family is gonna last forever
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and ever and ever. Our relationship, I have people in
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my family I never met, great grandparents and other relatives
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that I've never met. My dad was number 18 of
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20 kids. Yeah, can you imagine that? I'd have to
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rent the Superdome if I had a family reunion. I've
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never met most of those relatives. But if they know
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the Lord, they're in God's family, we're gonna be in
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heaven together. And your spiritual family is gonna be permanent.
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It's going on for thousands and thousands and thousands and
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thousands of years. God used your physical family to get
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you into the world. You ought to be grateful for that.
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But his real goal is to get you into his
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spiritual family. You're a member of God's very only family.
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The world uses superficial identifiers. You have brown hair, you
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weigh such and such, your height is this, you're Asian
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or you're Caucasian or you're African American or you're educated
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or you're rich or you're whatever. Those are all superficial
-
identifiers for you. People today, when they don't know their
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identity in Christ, they look for identity in something else,
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like a political party. Well, I'm of this, or I'm
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of that. And they find their identity in the team
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that they root for, or they find their identity in
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the celebrity that they identify with, or they find their
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identity in the political person they think's gonna be the
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savior of the world. But none of that. It matters,
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it's superficial. What matters most is your spiritual identity. Look
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on the screen, Hebrews 2.11. Jesus and the people he
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makes holy all belong to the same family. That's a connection.
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You're in the family of God. That's why he isn't
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ashamed to call them his brothers and sisters. Now you
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may have had some relatives you were ashamed of, but
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God Jesus says, I'm not ashamed of you, I'm your brother,
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I'm your elder brother in the family of God. By
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belonging to Christ, you discover your true identity. Now you know,
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I used to work up in inner city LA as
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a youth pastor many, many years ago. And gangs would
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get gang tattoos so they could identify who they belonged to, okay?
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What's the tattoo of a Christian? Baptism. Baptism says, I'm in,
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I'm in. I'm not ashamed to say to the world,
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Jesus Christ is my Savior and my Lord. Now that's
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the first metaphor, it's family. Let's go quickly to these others.
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Second metaphor, the Bible says the church is a temple.
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It's a temple. It's like a building erected to hold
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the presence of God. And God says his presence wants
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to be in you. You're a temple and together we
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form the temple of God. Look here on the screen.
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First Corinthians 3.16 says this. Don't you realize that all
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of you together, together are the temple of God and
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his spirit lives in you. I'm not the temple of
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God just by myself. You're not the temple of God
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just by yourself. Together we are the temple of God.
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That's a metaphor. for God's family, for God's church. And
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like a strong structure of a building, we each hold
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each other up. Okay, this is an important thing. We
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each hold each other up. You know, I remember when
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we were building all these buildings on the Lake Forest
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campus and how fascinating it was that it took thousands
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and thousands and thousands of parts to erect the building.
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But the most important thing in a building is that
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the parts have to fit together. If they don't fit together,
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the parts are worthless. A beam that is a quarter
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of an inch too short is worthless. A pipe that
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is a foot too long is worthless. The parts have
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to fit together or they lose their meaning and purpose.
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And to be strong and to be stable, everything has
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to connect. And that's what the metaphor of the church
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as a temple is all about. Also I noticed when
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I would walk around in some of these buildings that
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were being built before they were erected is that there
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was a lot of spare stuff laying around on the ground.
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There were parts and wood and tools and all kinds
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of things that were not used. And what I noticed
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about that is that a piece of pipe could be
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laying on the ground. It could be in the building, okay,
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it could be in the building, but it was not
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a part of the building. You understand what I'm saying?
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Just laying on the ground. It's in the building, but
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it's not a part of the building. Some of you
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are in the church. You come every week to service,
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but you're not a part of it, because you're not
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connected yet. You haven't made the commitment of membership. You're
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in it, you're like, you're in it, but you're not
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a part of it, because you're not connected to anybody. Yet,
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many times, why did God use this metaphor of a
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building to illustrate the church? Because in a building, the
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connected parts hold each other together. And there are gonna
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be many times in your life when you need other
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people to hold you together. You're gonna need other people
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in your life to hold you together. As the pastor
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of this church, there have been many, many times over
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40 years, I needed the members of this church to
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hold me together. Because I'm just a person like you.
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And I needed people to hold me together when things
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are falling apart in my life. If you don't have that,
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you're lacking what the church offers. So, write this down.
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Number two, in God's temple, I'm supported by others. Like
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a strong structure of a building, we hold each other up.
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This is what the whole book of Ephesians teaches. Chapter two,
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in God's temple, I'm supported by others. Ephesians chapter two
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says this, verse 21 and 22. In Christ, the whole
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building is joined together and it rises to become a
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holy temple to the Lord. He's talking about the church.
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And in him you too are being built together to
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become a dwelling place in which God lives by his spirit.
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By his spirit. Here's the point. In a building, a
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disconnected frame has no support and has no stability. And
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it's gonna collapse on its own. And if you're not connected,
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there will be times in your life when you collapse
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because you have no stability and you have no support.
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You're just out there on your own. You weren't meant
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to go through life all by yourself. You weren't meant
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to go through it all on your own. You need
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physical and spiritual and emotional and mental support. You need
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to belong. Few years back I got, because of my grandkids,
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got involved in Legos. It had been a long time
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since I'd played with Legos. But we turned my entire
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garage into Legoland. And we were building Fantasy World and
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Cowboys and Indians and Star Wars and Jurassic Park and
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on and on and on. You know what I discovered
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about Legos? Legos are created for connection. They have no
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purpose if they're not connected. When you connect them, you
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can really build some cool stuff. But if they're not
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connected to anything else, they're just a pile of plastic.
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They get in the way. And you step on them,
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it hurts your bare foot. Anybody ever stepped on a Lego?
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God bless you, is there another? God bless you, I
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see you. Thousands of you have stepped on Legos, thank you.
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God bless you. But when you connect them, you can
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create something cool. Here's what the Bible says, Romans 1,
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verse 12. I want us to help each other with
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the faith that we have, okay? Your faith will help me,
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and my faith will help you. That's why we have church.
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Your faith will help me, and my faith will help you. Now,
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in class 101, we have actually a membership covenant, and
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everybody signs that covenant. And it is a promise, not
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simply to God, but to each other, saying, I will help.
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Love the other members of this church. And I will
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help the other members of the church. You know, the
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church is the antidote to the greatest epidemic in the
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world right now, loneliness. People are lonely all around the world.
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It is epidemic proportion. You know, some of you are students,
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you're in school. I just wanna say this to you
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because school can be a lonely time This church here
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is very far from perfect, but it's filled with people
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who will love you if you'll get to know them,
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and they will help you navigate the crazy years in
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your life. They will help you. Now let's go to
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the third metaphor. The third metaphor that we see in
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the Bible is the church is a body. The church
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is a body. It's called the body of Christ. Up
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here on the screen, 1 Corinthians 12 says, together you
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are the body of Christ. and each one of you
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is a part of it. So the church is a family,
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the church is a temple, the church is a body. Now,
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what's the benefit of being a part of the body
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of Christ? Romans chapter 12, there on your outline, verse
Romans 12 chapter mention
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four and five. Just as there are many parts to
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our bodies, so it is with Christ's body. We're all
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parts of it and it takes everyone to make it complete.
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For we each have different work to do, so we
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belong to each other and each of us needs All
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the other parts. I could have preached the entire sermon
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just on this. It says we're all many parts. We're
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all unique. Look around. Nobody's like you in our church family.
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Everybody's unique. We're all unique. Everybody's needed to make the
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body complete. We each have different work to do. We
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belong to each other and we need each other. Church
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is far more than simply something you attend. It's a
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family you belong to. And you need other people. You
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need connections in your life. First Corinthians chapter 12, verse 15.
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If the foot says, I'm not part of the body
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because I'm not a hand, that doesn't make it any
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less part of the body. And if an ear says,
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I'm not part of the body because I'm only an
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ear and not an eye, would that make it any
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less part of the body? Too often, the church is
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just a big mouth. And we've amputated the arms and
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the feet. And we're known for what we say, we
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know for what we're against. I'm tired of that. I
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want our church to be known for what we're for,
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not what we're against. Okay? I want us to be
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known for what we're for, not what we're against. Again,
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what good is an eyeball detached from a body? It
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can't see anything. I want you to write this on
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your outline. I can't fulfill my purpose by myself. That's
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one of the fundamental lessons you have to learn in life.
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I cannot fulfill my purpose, by myself. You know, I
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asked Don, Dale, and Lee and Cynthia Hensler about their
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being involved in ministries over the years, because they've all
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been involved in dozens of them. And this is what
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they had to say. I want you to watch this.
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I've got a real treat for you today. My oldest
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friends at Saddleback Church are sitting on this couch and
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they're really old. We're gonna talk about what membership means.
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These are people from the very first membership class. I
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found this article in the Saddleback News, a copy that
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said we welcomed 42 new members, this is in 1980,
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at the very first 101 class, including Don Dale, who
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was the first member of Saddleback Church, And you've heard
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the famous story of how we met and he got
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a home for us and then has been here for
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all 40 years and the 12 weeks before that. And
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then Lee and Cynthia Hensler, Cynthia Hensler and Lee were
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the first two people baptized in Saddleback Church. And she
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was the first person who called. You remember that? Tell
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me about that because we hand addressed and hand stamped 15,000 letters.
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Don was involved obviously in that.
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Well, we wanted to find a church, not for us,
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but we had a brand new baby.
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A new baby, didn't you?
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Yeah.
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We thought part of the formula for being good parents
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would take child to church.
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By the way, Courtney was the first diaper changed at
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Saddleback Church.
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And she also bit your daughter.
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She did bit my daughter, who was just a couple
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months older.
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Blood sisters.
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Yes.
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But we decided we wanted to find a church so
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we could be those good parents.
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Yeah.
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And, uh, the letter arrived and, um.
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Uh, didn't give us too much information other than where
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it met and what time. So I just had a
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few other questions I needed to ask.
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So you called, and I kept a record, I still
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have this record of everybody who called from that letter.
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And the first one was Cynthia Hensler.
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Cindy.
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Cindy at the time, exactly, that's true. And I was
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trying to go by Richard, but it didn't work. I
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was trying to look older than I really was. And
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Don was actually the old man at the time, so anyway.
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Don and Lee and Cynthia, I want to just talk about, well, first,
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everybody's going to want to know, what's it like to
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have been through 40 years of Saddleback Church? Absolutely amazing.
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And I did go to the very first service. You did.
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And I listened to you read that first letter of what.
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Your vision was for this church. Yeah.
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That is just really a wild thing. I just wondered
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if I could really do it. I did too.
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I wasn't even a Christian at the time. I just
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had nothing to do on Easter Sunday. So I went
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to the church that was meeting in the school I
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taught at.
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Yeah, that's true. You taught it at Laguna Hills High School.
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That's right.
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And so I did it in there with no expectation.
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My real reason was I was going to go and
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see what it was like so I could tell her, oh,
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let's not bother.
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Yeah. when she came back. But I heard something entirely
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different than I've ever heard before.
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About that relationship with Jesus Christ. I've never heard that before.
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We had no idea what was in store for us.
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Don, talk about all of the prep that we did
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getting ready for that first service.
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What was it, 15,000 letters?
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15,000 letters, yeah.
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Rick did not want them computer generated.
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No. Hand addressed them.
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I think we licked stamps.
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We stamped them, hand stamped them.
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And licked the envelope closed.
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Yes.
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Figured out some sort of method.
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We all had this thick mucus on our licks. Licks
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were stuck together. Yeah.
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It basically just said, we got good news for you.
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Visit us. You got it. That's it. That's exactly right.
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We've got good news. That's how we started. And I'll
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never forget at the first service when 205 people walked
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up that. walkway to Laguna Hills High School and Kay
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looked at me with tears in her eyes and she goes,
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this is gonna work. That was Easter Sunday.
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Remember we did a service a week ahead of that.
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That's true. We kind of practiced because we didn't know
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what would happen. Exactly. And we had 60 people at that.
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And my dad's a minister.
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I called my dad and I said, 60.
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People showed up. On the trial run service.
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On the trial run, and my dad goes, 60?
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We've only got 100 in our church, and you've got
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60 for the first service?
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Yeah, right.
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What's going on?
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Exactly.
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My dad was amazed.
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I was amazed.
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Wow maybe this there is something.
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Yeah five people gave their lives christ in the trial
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run service and some of their names carl and linda
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bolt were two of the ones who gave the life
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of gary and pat street i remember they wrote on
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a card they said Rick, help us. And I thought
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they were having, you know, just typical problems, marriage problems
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or something. I called them up and said, how can
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I help you? They said, oh, we just want to
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know how to give our lives to Christ. And that
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was it. That's how it started. So we've seen a lot.
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We had to set up the nursery. We had to
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figure out what we're going to do with the kids.
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What are we going to do with the youth? Who's
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going to play the music?
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If you were a warm body, you could be a
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youth worker.
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Breeders and all this stuff.
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We take it for granted today.
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10 or 15 of us to do all this.
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This is an interesting point that Don's making, that before
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the first service, this little Bible study grew to about
-
15 people. And many of them had not given their
-
lives to Christ. They were non-believers. I actually had non-believers
-
helping us plan the service. And I said, you know,
-
Bob Jacoby, I said, you're going to be the usher.
-
And Terry, you're going to plan this. And we had
-
non-Christians helping us plan a church service for non-Christians.
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Rich.
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Yeah.
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Within the first month of the church, we asked Lee
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and I do one of the Bible studies after the service.
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You're it.
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We don't do that until about the sixth or seventh.
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I remember that, exactly, yeah. Oh, you're a teacher, you
-
could be a Bible study leader. You could be a
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Bible study leader, exactly. We later did that in prison
-
where we pointed to people and said, point around, will
-
we choose Bubba to be our Bible study leader? Bubba goes,
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I'm not a Christian. No, but you're a leader, so
-
you can ask the questions. So it was the whole
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idea that we wanted to convince people is it was
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all hands on deck. There were literally no spectators. Once
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you start coming, week number two, you're a participator. You know?
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You and I probably talked on the phone a couple
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times a day.
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A day. Daily at least. Exactly. Exactly.
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Let's keep working.
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Exactly.
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That was how the church functioned.
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No, that's exactly right, Don. Okay. Now, there are 67
-
different metaphors in the Bible, and the metaphors are names
-
of the church. What I want to do in the
-
last few minutes here is talk to you about five
-
of them and show you the benefits. What are the
-
benefits of belonging? So the Bible calls the church many
-
different things, but let's just look at five. Would you
-
write these down? The first metaphor is the most well-known one,
-
which is the church is a family. Okay, it's a family.
-
And there are many, many implications for that, but The
-
one thing I want to focus on is that in
-
a healthy family, you learn who you are. So write
-
this down. Number one, in God's family, I learn my
-
true identity. That's the first benefit of actually being a
-
member of a local church. In God's family, I learn
-
my true identity. Have you ever thought about why people
-
wear brands? You know, they'll say Ralph Lauren or Ruka
-
or Vans or Tommy Hilfiger or whatever. Why do people
-
wear brands? To identify. To feel like they belong to something.
-
They like to think that this is a cool brand,
-
if I wear this brand then I'm cool. And so
-
we identify with brands because it helps us identify. But
-
in reality, your primary identity doesn't come from what you wear.
-
Your primary identity comes from relationships. I am a son,
-
I am a brother,
-
These are all relationships in my life that
-
define who Rick Warren is. It's not how I look,
-
it's not how little or much money I've got, it's
-
what are my relationships. You're defined by relationships. If my
-
connections are bad, or my connections are broken, then my
-
identity suffers. If I just got fired, or I just
-
got divorced, or my spouse dies, if something changes in
-
my relationships, it causes me to pause and go, who
-
am I? Who am I? Because your primary identity comes
-
from your relationships. Now, I know what some of you think.
-
You say, Rick, that's terrible news for me because my
-
family was dysfunctional, my family was broken, or maybe my
-
family was nonexistent. Well, I got good news for you.
-
The next verse on your outline, Ephesians 2.19. You are
-
a member of, there's that word member, you are a
-
member of God's very own family and you belong in
-
God's household with every other Christian. This is your family. This,
-
you belong here, you fit here. Now actually, hear me
-
out on this. Your spiritual family is far more important
-
even than your physical family. God used your physical family
-
to bring you into the world so you could become
-
a part of his spiritual family. You should be grateful
-
that your physical family got together, whatever the circumstances are,
-
doesn't matter, God wanted you alive because he wanted you
-
to be a part of his spiritual family. Why is
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my spiritual family, the church, more important than my physical family?
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Because your physical family doesn't last. People die, people grow old,
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people move away, people divorce, there's all kinds of different things,
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it doesn't last. But God's family is gonna last forever
-
and ever and ever. Our relationship, I have people in
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my family I never met, great grandparents and other relatives
-
that I've never met. My dad was number 18 of
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20 kids. Yeah, can you imagine that? I'd have to
-
rent the Superdome if I had a family reunion. I've
-
never met most of those relatives. But if they know
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the Lord, they're in God's family, we're gonna be in
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heaven together. And your spiritual family is gonna be permanent.
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It's going on for thousands and thousands and thousands and
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thousands of years. God used your physical family to get
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you into the world. You ought to be grateful for that.
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But his real goal is to get you into his
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spiritual family. You're a member of God's very only family.
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And the world uses superficial identifiers. You have brown hair,
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you weigh such and such, your height is this, you're
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Asian or you're Caucasian or you're African American or you're
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educated or you're rich or you're whatever. Those are all
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superficial identifiers for you. people today, when they don't know
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their identity in Christ, they look for identity in something else,
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like a political party. Well, I'm a this, or I'm
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a that. And they find their identity in the team
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that they root for, or they find their identity in
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the celebrity that they identify with, or they find their
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identity in the political person they think's gonna be the
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savior of the world. But none of that. It matters,
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it's superficial. What matters most is your spiritual identity. Look
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on the screen, Hebrews 2.11. Jesus and the people he
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makes holy all belong to the same family. That's a connection.
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You're in the family of God. That's why he isn't
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ashamed to call them his brothers and sisters. Now you
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may have had some relatives you were ashamed of. But
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God Jesus says, I'm not ashamed of you, I'm your brother,
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I'm your elder brother in the family of God. By
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belonging to Christ, you discover your true identity. Now you know,
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I used to work up in inner city LA as
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a youth pastor many, many years ago. And gangs would
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get gang tattoos so they could identify who they belong to, okay?
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What's the tattoo of a Christian? Baptism. Baptism says, I'm in,
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I'm in. I'm not ashamed to say to the world,
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Jesus Christ is my Savior and my Lord. Now that's
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the first metaphor, it's family. Let's go quickly to these others.
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Second metaphor, the Bible says the church is a temple.
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It's a temple. It's like a building erected to hold
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the presence of God. And God says his presence wants
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to be in you. You're a temple and together we
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form the temple of God. Look here on the screen.
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First Corinthians 3.16 says this. Don't you realize that all
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of you together, together are the temple of God and
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his spirit lives in you. I'm not the temple of
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God just by myself. You're not the temple of God
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just by yourself. Together we are the temple of God.
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That's a metaphor. for God's family, for God's church. And
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like a strong structure of a building, we each hold
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each other up. Okay, this is an important thing. We
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each hold each other up. You know, I remember when
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we were building all these buildings on the Lake Forest
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campus and how fascinating it was that it took thousands
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and thousands and thousands of parts to erect the building.
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But the most important thing in a building is that
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the parts have to fit together. If they don't fit together,
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the parts are worthless. A beam that is a quarter
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of an inch too short is worthless. A pipe that
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is a foot too long is worthless. The parts have
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to fit together or they lose their meaning and purpose.
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And to be strong and to be stable, everything has
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to connect. And that's what the metaphor of the church
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as a temple is all about. Also I noticed when
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I would walk around in some of these buildings that
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were being built before they were erected is that there
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was a lot of spare stuff laying around on the ground.
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There were parts and wood and tools and all kinds
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of things that were not used. And what I noticed
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about that is that a piece of pipe could be
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laying on the ground. It could be in the building, okay,
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it could be in the building, but it was not
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a part of the building. You understand what I'm saying?
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Just laying on the ground. It's in the building, but
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it's not a part of the building. Some of you
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are in the church. You come every week to service,
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but you're not a part of it, because you're not
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connected yet. You haven't made the commitment of membership. You're
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in it, you're like, you're in it, but you're not
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a part of it, because you're not connected to anybody. Yet,
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many times, why did God use this metaphor of a
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building to illustrate the church? Because in a building, the
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connected parts hold each other together. And there are gonna
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be many times in your life when you need other
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people to hold you together. You're gonna need other people
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in your life to hold you together. As the pastor
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of this church, there have been many, many times over
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40 years, I needed the members of this church to
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hold me together. Because I'm just a person like you.
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And I needed people to hold me together when things
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are falling apart in my life. If you don't have that,
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you're lacking what the church offers. So, write this down,
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number two. In God's temple, I'm supported by others. Like
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a strong structure of a building, we hold each other up.
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This is what the whole book of Ephesians teaches. Chapter two,
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in God's temple, I'm supported by others. Ephesians chapter two
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says this, verse 21 and 22. In Christ, the whole
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building is joined together and it rises to become a
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holy temple to the Lord. He's talking about the church.
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And in him, you too are being built together. to
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become a dwelling place in which God lives by his spirit,
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by his spirit. Here's the point. In a building, a
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disconnected frame has no support and has no stability, and
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it's gonna collapse on its own. And if you're not connected,
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there will be times in your life when you collapse
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because you have no stability and you have no support.
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You're just out there on your own. You weren't meant
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to go through life all by yourself. You weren't meant
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to go through it all on your own. You need
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physical and spiritual and emotional and mental support. You need
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to belong. Few years back, I got, because of my grandkids,
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got involved in Legos. It had been a long time
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since I'd played with Legos. But we turned my entire
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garage into Legoland. And we were building, you know, Fantasy
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World Cowboys and Indians and Star Wars and Jurassic Park
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and on and on and on. You know what I
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discovered about Legos? Legos are created for connection. They have
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no purpose if they're not connected. When you connect them,
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you can really build some cool stuff. But if they're
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not connected to anything else, they're just a pile of plastic.
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They get in the way, and you step on them,
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it hurts your bare foot. Anybody ever stepped on a Lego?
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God bless you, is there another? God bless you, I
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see you. Thousands of you have stepped on Legos, thank you,
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God bless you. But when you connect them, you can
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create something cool. Here's what the Bible says, Romans chapter one,
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verse 12. I want us to help each other with
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the faith that we have, okay? Your faith will help me.
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And my faith will help you. That's why we have church.
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Your faith will help me and my faith will help you.
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Now in class 101, we have actually a membership covenant.
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And everybody signs that covenant. And it is a promise,
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not simply to God, but to each other saying, I
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will love the other members of this church. And I
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will help the other members in the church. You know,
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the church is the antidote to the greatest epidemic in
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the world right now. People are lonely all around the world.
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It is epidemic proportion. You know, some of you are students.
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You're in school. I just want to say this to
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you because school can be a lonely time. This church
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here is very far from perfect, but it's filled with
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people who will love you if you'll get to know them.
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and they will help you navigate the crazy years in
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your life. They will help you. Now let's go to
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the third metaphor. The third metaphor that we see in
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the Bible is the church is a body. The church
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is a body. It's called the body of Christ. Up
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here on the screen, 1 Corinthians 12 says, together you
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are the body of Christ. And each one of you
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is a part of it. So the church is a family,
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the church is a temple, the church is a body.
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What's the benefit of being a part of the body
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of Christ? Romans chapter 12, there on your outline, verse
Romans 12 chapter mention
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four and five. Just as there are many parts to
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our bodies, so it is with Christ's body. We're all
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parts of it and it takes everyone to make it complete.
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For we each have different work to do, so we
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belong to each other and each of us needs all
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the other parts. I could have preached the entire sermon
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just on this. It says we're all many parts, we're
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all unique. Look around, nobody's like you. In our church family,
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everybody's unique. We're all unique. Everybody's needed to make the
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body complete. We each have different work to do. We
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belong to each other and we need each other. Church
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is far more than simply something you attend. It's a
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family you belong to. And you need other people. You
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need connections in your life. First Corinthians chapter 12, verse 15.
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If the foot says, I'm not a part of the
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body because I'm not a hand. That doesn't make it
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any less part of the body. And if an ear says,
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I'm not part of the body, because I'm only an
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ear and not an eye, would that make it any
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less part of the body? Too often, the church is
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just a big mouth. And we've amputated the arms and
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the feet. And we're known for what we say, we
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know for what we're against. I'm tired of that. I
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want our church to be known for what we're for,
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not what we're against. Okay? I want us to be
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known for what we're for, not what we're against. Again,
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what good is an eyeball detached from a body? It
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can't see anything. I want you to write this on
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your outline. I can't fulfill my purpose by myself. That's
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one of the fundamental lessons you have to learn in life.
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I cannot fulfill my purpose by myself. You know, I
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asked Don Dale and Lee and Cynthia Hensler about They're
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being involved in ministries over the years because they've all
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been involved in dozens of them. And this is what
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they had to say. I want you to watch this.
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Now every one of you, all three of you guys,
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have started multiple ministries in this church, which we now
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have over 500 of these different ministries. These guys started
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many of them, grew them up, and then turned them
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over to somebody else, and then would go and start another.
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Can you guys think, each of you think of a time,
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one of the many ministries that was really interesting or
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fulfilling to you in service? Something you just go, well,
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I didn't know that I could do that, but I did, whatever.
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Well, my, in my particular case was the idea of
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going someplace and doing something with some of the skills
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I had.
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Right.
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At the time I had, uh, I think I was
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still teaching woodshop at the Moon Hills high school and
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I wanted to do something with those skills. I knew
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your dad had gone and had built mission trips, building stuff. So, uh,
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the idea of a mission trip sounded intriguing. So I,
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and my, and I guess there were five others, Bob Snook,
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Andy Hine, uh, and, uh, Jennifer Stice.
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And Bonnie Stice.
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Bonnie Stice. And, um, um, he was supposed to go,
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but he got sick. We joined with what is now Mariners,
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and we went to Costa Rica.
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Wow. The very first mission trip that settled. Wow, that
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we ever did. And it was a great experience and fun.
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So then when he came back, I still wanted to
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do more things like that, but knew I couldn't keep
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going on trips. So I got the church involved in
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Habitat for Humanity. Right.
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I remember. A long time ago.
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And so we started teams out and doing Habitat for Humanity,
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and that is drone and some other people taking it over.
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And then because of your dad, again, he taught me
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how to go into Africa.
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Yeah.
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And I've been all over the world, of course. Yeah.
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Mission trips. Yeah.
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So that's kind of how I got involved and I
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lead trips and recruit guys to go with me.
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But it was kind of like take that first step. Oh, absolutely. Yeah.
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Take the first step and then who knows where it's
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going to go. Don?
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I took over the youth ministry.
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We had ministry.
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Right.
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It had something to do with junior high and high school.
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Right.
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I ran the youth group for quite a while.
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Yeah, you did. I did. Now, I'm back now.
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If you have a child in junior high, come see me.
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They need to be involved in junior high.
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But I now see kids that are in their 40s.
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They were at my youth group.
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Yeah, that's interesting. All three of you have seen people
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that you mentored who, you actually watched them be born.
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You watched them be born, you watched them grow up
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through all of the crawlers and toddlers and stuff like that.
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And now, for instance, we have people on our staff
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that were born in this church, including Courtney. Yeah, who
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started when the church started and all of that. I'll
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never forget when Courtney came back from Stony Brook as
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the first character award in that school. Stony Brook School started.
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Timothy Award.
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The Timothy Award, that's what it was. And all of that.
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Well, with me, I started doing the children's ministry, writing
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up the weekly curriculum. Yeah.
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And preparing the teachers and volunteers.
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But then Kay asked me to be on a women's
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ministry board. And it was just kind of an advisory board,
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getting the pulse of the church. And it was the
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first time I had anything to do with a women's organization.
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Little did you know.
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Then I eventually became minister to women.
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Yeah, exactly. Full-time staff. You were pastoral staff to women, yeah.
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So that was an exciting time to see that. the
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women find a place in the church and grow and serve.
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Well, that's that whole thing of you don't know what
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you can do until you actually try it. I remember
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Kay had never done any kind of Bible study before
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Saddleback Church. She'd never, I was a youth pastor. She goes,
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I can't do that. I could mentor one-on-one, but I
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can't do it. And the first study she taught in
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our little home was a Joyce Landorf study. And she
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said her knees knocked for the whole 45 minutes. She
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was so scared for six people sitting in the room.
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But that was the start. You just take a leap
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of faith and of course that's the whole history of
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our church. Let me give you the fourth metaphor. The
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Bible calls the church not just the family of God,
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not just the body of Christ, not just the temple
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of God, but we are the flock of God. The
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flock of God. What I'm talking about here is like
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a group of sheep gathered together for safety. Now Psalm
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100 verse three says God made us and we are
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his and we are his people, the sheep of his pasture.
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We are in the flock of God. Now that probably
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doesn't sound too appealing to you because you have no
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idea how well sheep are cared for. Sheep are pretty
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dependent upon being cared for and they are cared for well,
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and I don't have time to go into this, I'm
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gonna cut this out of the message, but if you'll
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go and read Psalm 23 and John 10, write that
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on your outline, Psalm 23, John 10, you go and
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read how well sheep are cared for, and you'll feel
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a whole lot better about being in the flock of God,
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because Jesus is the good shepherd. Now, in God's flock,
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what does that mean, what's the benefit? As a part
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of God's flock, when I'm in the family of God,
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I'm in the church of God, in God's flock, I'm
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defended and cared for. I am defended and cared for.
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I'm not on my own. I have other people looking
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out for me. I enjoy the safety and the security
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and the protection. And what does that do? That makes
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me more confident. It makes me less anxious. The better
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connected you are in God's church, the less anxious you'll be,
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because you realize you're not on your own. And when
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you're getting beat up in the business world, you go,
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I'm not on my own. And when your family or
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marriage is being strained, you go, I'm not on my own,
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I'm in the flock. And when you're facing personal crisis
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or illness, I'm not on my own. You need people
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who walk into your life when everybody else walks out.
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That's what you need. And that's what you get in
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a church family. Now in the church, God has placed
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two kinds of people, two kinds of people to help
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you through your difficult times and to help you and
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to care for you when you're going through tough times,
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to be defensive for you. Write these down. Number one
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is my pastors. My pastors look out for me. Do
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you know the word pastor is the word shepherd? It's
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the same word. A shepherd is a pastor, a pastor
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is a shepherd. And in 1 Peter chapter five, God
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says this to pastors. This is instructions for me. Take
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care of God's flock, his people, that you are responsible for.
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Watch over them because you want to, not because you're
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forced to do it. You know, nobody pays me to
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do this. I've now served Saddleback Church for 40 years,
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For free, why? I really do love you. I love
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God and because I love God, I love his family,
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I love his flock, I love his children, I love you.
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Nobody pays me to do this. I do this because
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I love Jesus and I love you. He says do
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it willingly. But you need to pray for me because
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I'm not smart enough to lead a flock this big.
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I just, I'm on my knees constantly going, God, I
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need to know, what do you want us to do next?
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So pastors are given to look out for me in
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the flock of God, but there's another, and that is
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small group. You need a small group. There are 58
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one another's in the Bible. Love one another, care for
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one another, help one another, serve one another, share with
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one another, pray for one another, encourage one another. There
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are 58 one another's. You can't do that in a
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crowd this size, a weekend crowd. You can only do
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that in a small group. And in the small group,
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that's where the flock of God really shows up. Galatians
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6 says this, share each other's troubles and problems. And
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in this way, obey the law of Christ. I asked
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Don and Leah and Cynthia to talk about the small
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groups that they've been in for 40 years in this church.
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Listen to this. Well, guys, I wanna ask one more thing,
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and that is talk to me about a small group experience,
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because small groups have been a key to our church
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over the years, and you're not really gonna feel like
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a part unless you get to know some people. You
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don't have to know everybody to feel like it's your church,
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but you gotta know somebody. And they gotta know when
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you're not there. You gotta have some close friends. The
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average person, if you got six or more friends in
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a church, you're probably gonna stick. Because you don't have
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to know everybody, but you have to know somebody. Don,
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talk to me about that.
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I definitely don't know everybody at Saddleback.
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Even though you've been here from day one.
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Yeah, a lot of people I don't know.
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Yeah.
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You need that friendship.
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You need somebody that recognizes you on Sunday, that you
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can see during the week. Because I don't have time
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to see the Henslers every week. Rick, for some reason,
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has a busy schedule.
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I don't know why. I don't talk to you two
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times a day anymore.
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There are times going in my life that I needed.
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Support. I needed support.
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I went through a divorce.
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Horrible thing to go through.
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But I needed the support.
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I wouldn't have probably made it without the support of
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the help of the church people that helped me.
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Helped you walk through those dark days.
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Yeah.
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But then God rewarded you. Oh, yeah. I came out good.
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Better than you deserve.
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Our small group has been together for many, many years.
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And Besides doing Bible studies and campaigns together and growing spiritually,
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we have become a very incredible group of prayer warriors.
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In our group, at one time, we had 13 people
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that were cancer survivors.
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Oh, my goodness. Oh, my goodness.
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And then we've seen each other through deaths of children.
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Yeah, yeah.
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And also through bankruptcies.
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Yep. 40 years of crises. Absolutely. Just imagine what can happen. Yes.
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But also a lot of celebration.
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Yeah, absolutely. Good, happy times.
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That's the thing that we hear most of all, and
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we hear from our leader as well as everybody, is
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can you imagine if we didn't have the support group,
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how would we get through this?
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Right.
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I mean, I'll give you an example. Today, one of
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our members lost their mother. Oh my goodness, yeah. And
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we've been praying and we're there for support. And It
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just eases it. I had a little issue a few
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months ago. You did. You were in the hospital. Quadruple bypass.
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A little issue. Quadruple bypass.
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Just knowing I had prayer and support and people supporting
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her and being there for me.
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I don't know how non-believers and people who are not
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in a small group get through stuff. It just doesn't
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make sense. Well, thank you, guys. I'm going to say
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we'll do this again in 40 more years. 40 more years.
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All right. All right. Thank you. Okay. Now, let me
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give you quickly the fifth metaphor, and that is the
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church is a garden. The metaphor of the church is
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a garden or a vineyard. In fact, there are churches
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that are actually called Vineyard Church based on this idea.
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It's an organic metaphor that we grow and we are
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fruitful when we are working together. John chapter 15 verse
John 15 chapter mention
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one and five, here on the screen, Jesus said, I
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am the true vine and my Father is the gardener
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and you are the branches. So we are God's garden.
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In God's garden, write this down, my life becomes productive.
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When I'm connected in God's garden, now all of a
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sudden I start becoming fruitful. The Bible calls it being fruitful,
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being productive. It's called bearing fruit. I'm able to make
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a contribution. Everybody I've ever met wants their life to count.
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Everybody I've ever met wants to make a difference. They
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want to make a contribution with their life. Where can
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you best do that? In God's garden where you will
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be productive. But here's the key again, you have to
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be connected. John 15, four and five on the screen
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says this. A branch cannot produce fruit if it's severed
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from the vine. And you cannot be fruitful. Read that
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as productive. You cannot be productive apart from me. I
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am the vine, Jesus says, and you are the branches.
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And those who remain in me and I in them
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will produce much fruit. You'll be much, you'll be very productive.
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Very productive. He says, and, but apart from me, you
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can do nothing. The point is this. You'll never be
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as productive as God intended for you to be with
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your life if you're not connected to a church family.
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You're just not going to. It teaches you the questions
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to ask, it teaches you the priorities to understand, it
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teaches you all kinds of stuff, but you're not gonna
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be as productive if you're disconnected from the church. A
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cut off branch cannot bear fruit, but when you're connected
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to the vine, life giving energy flows through you. I
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asked Lee and Cynthia and Don, to talk about the
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risks that they had to take over 40 years in
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order to be productive. Listen to this, last clip. Talk
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to the people here about some of the risks that
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you think, well, that's really not gonna happen, but we
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really did believe that it happened, and it did. So
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remember when we did the walking over to the property,
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the 6,000 people, what was that day called? I can't remember.
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It was home at last. Home at last.
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I still have the sweatshirt.
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Oh, you do? Home at last. Yeah, exactly.
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We all went behind you and you pushed the pulpit.
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Yeah, yeah, I did. We put the pulpit on wheels
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and we 6,000 people marched a mile from Tribuco Hills
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High School over to the property. And literally, if you
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look at the Lake Forest campus now, it's got trees
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all over it. There wasn't a single tree. It was
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a gravel pit. It looked like a moonscape. And we
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set up a tent on a moonscape with no trees,
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no green, nothing. And all of the burning up in
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the summer and freezing in the winter and stuff like that.
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But there was a pioneer spirit. Oh, absolutely. And God's
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not through with that. He wants to do it again
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with next generations. So talk to me about what you
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would say to the next generation of members.
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It's really exciting to be involved with that. I look back,
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and I was telling Don earlier that when I go
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on campus and I walk and look and see, again,
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hearing you read that letter way back at the beginning,
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now seeing it actually be right there in front of
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my eyes, it's just awesome to see what you have
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done and the church has done.
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And God has done. It's all of us. God used
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ordinary people. He did. Absolutely.
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And it's exciting.
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It's exciting to be involved with something where you're not
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sure if it's going to work, but why not give
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it a try? attitude.
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Let's see where this takes us.
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Or were we just dumb and we just went along
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with it?
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I was trying to make this look better. You weren't dumb.
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There's no way we would have gotten here if you
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guys had been dumb. God brought an incredibly gifted group
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of core leaders at every stage, really. Every single stage
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of the church. We now have a new crop of
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gifted leaders that have come in that are just going
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to take us to the next peak. And all of that.
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And it's just so much fun just to take that
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risk and see what's going to happen and see God work.
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That has just been a great adventure. I think everybody
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wants to be a part of a movement.
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And if you don't take that step, you're missing out
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probably on the biggest adventure of your life.
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Here on earth. Yeah, you're right.
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I always use the example, God says you just have
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to have the faith of a mustard seed.
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I don't have an avocado seed.
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And it's just amazing what has happened.
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Yeah.
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Just okay. Yeah. It's not the size of your faith.
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It's the size of God. Little faith, big God gets
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big results. Well, even when you said we're going to
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have satellite churches.
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Right.
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How is that going to happen? Okay, maybe San Clemente,
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but that's probably it. Will anybody actually look at a video,
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the screen?
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Yeah.
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And then now look where we are. Yeah, four continents. Yeah,
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four continents. I want you to honor these pioneers of
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Saddleback Church, the first three members of the very first
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101 class 40 years ago. Welcome Don and Lee and Cynthia.
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Come on out, guys. Love you guys. Love you guys. Yeah! Now,
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these guys have heard every bad joke I've told 100 times, okay?
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In fact, I always know, Lee, After Chris' Easter service,
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if I tell an old joke, he'll go, wow, there
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were a lot of new people here today. Because there
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were still people laughing. You guys, you're out here on stage.
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Say a word to your church.
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Overwhelmed to be here. And I got to plug junior high.
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If you're in junior high, you need to be in
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the junior high service, not listening to this boring sermon
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over Go to junior high.
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All right, good. All right.
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Don't miss out on the greatest adventure of your life
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and a wonderful opportunity to find what your real purpose
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in life is.
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Amen.
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And I know I speak for everyone who's up here,
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and I just want to thank you, Rick, for having
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the vision to start the Saddleback Church on just simply
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faith and what a huge blessing it has been, not
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only to myself, my family, but for everybody standing here.
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You've blessed us. Thank you very much. Thank you guys.
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Love you guys. This is just an example of the
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people who built this church over the last 40 years.
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Lee and Cynthia and Don, Dale, they're just normal people.
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But they became giants in faith over the last 40
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years by being connected to a place that would help
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them grow. Can you imagine the reward those people are
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gonna have in heaven for founding a church with 15
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people that is now one of the great churches of
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history and has had global impact? Great will be their reward.
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But here's the thing. our best days are ahead of us.
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And God has brought you here now for a purpose.
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You're not here just to take up space. You're here
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because God knows you have gifts, abilities, contacts, connections that
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he wants to use in his family for the next
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leg of the journey. I have said this many, many times,
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hundreds of times in 101 class. Can you imagine getting
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to heaven and 100 years from today, somebody walks up
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to you in heaven and says, I just wanna thank you.
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I'm here because of you. And you say, I don't
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even know you. He said, no, no, no, you don't
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know me. but you were one of the pioneers of
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Saddleback Church. Back there in 2020, when they only had
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20 campuses. and you prayed, and you served, and you
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got involved, and you were a member, and you got connected,
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and you were generous, and you sacrificed, and you gave
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it your best shot, you invested your life in something
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that would outlast you, and 50 years after you died,
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that church reached me for Jesus Christ. I'm in heaven
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because of you. Will that be worth it? If you
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know anything more important to do with your life, I
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challenge you right now, if you know anything more important
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to do with your life, than to invest it in
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the one thing that's gonna last on the planet Earth
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when everything else is gonna burn up, the family of God.
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Nothing else is gonna last. It's gonna outlast your business,
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it's gonna outlast your hobby, it's gonna outlast your sports,
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it's gonna outlast your own family. If you know anything
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more important to do than build the family of God
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Bring people to Christ, build them up to maturity, teach
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them to discover their gifts, send them out in their
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ministry in the world to make an impact. If you
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know something more important, I invite you to stand up
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right now and tell us. Right now. Stand up and
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tell us what's more important than that. Because I decided
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a long time ago, as a very young man, I
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was not gonna waste my life. And I have not.
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I have used it for the glory of God. I
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want you so badly to know what it feels like
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to be used by God. 40 years, great history. It's
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nothing compared to where we're going. And you're here now.
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Will you join me? Let's charge hell with squirt guns.
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Let's go for it. Let's, in a dark, dark, and
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getting darker world, shine a light of truth. Shine a
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light of hope. Shine a light of joy to be
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for the good news, not against all the bad news.
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There's plenty of people out there. You wanna go join
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a negative movement, it's not here. There's plenty of other
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places to go be negative and talk about how bad
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the world is, but not here. You have five fundamental
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needs in your life. You have a need for identity.
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You need to know who you are. You have a
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need for stability. You need stability when life gets tough.
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You need capacity. You need a place to develop, in
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a safe place, your gifts and talents where people aren't
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gonna put you down for not having it perfect the
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first time you try it. You need security. of relationships,
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and you need productivity, you feel like you're making, your
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life is gonna make a long-term difference. Where else are
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you gonna get that besides the church of God? Nowhere. Nowhere.
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So I just end with one question. Given the fact,
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why should you remain disconnected when a church family like
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this has so much to offer to you? And if
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not here, Just go somewhere and find a church, but
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get connected. I want to close by talking to two
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different groups. To some of you, you've been here, you've
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been coming to Saddleback Services for a long time, months,
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maybe years, and you've attended, but you've never stepped across
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the line to member. You've never gotten connected. You've never
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been baptized. You've never joined the church, never taken classes.
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You've never gotten involved in a ministry. Many of you
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have families that don't live in the area. So you
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don't really see your families and relatives much. You don't
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have really family around you. Others of you, you're single.
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And maybe even you live by yourself. You don't have
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much family around you. Others of you, you're in a
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marriage or in a family where you don't feel supported.
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We will be your family We will be your family.
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And maybe all your life you've been trying to belong.
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There is a universal longing for belonging in everybody. Everybody
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has a longing for belonging. And I've heard many, many
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people tell me out on that patio, Rick, I've never
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felt I belonged anywhere. Until I got here. Until I
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got here. Because you're wanted here. You're not just welcome,
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you're wanted. And you belong and you fit and we'll
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help you. So what do you do? You take class 101,
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the membership class that maybe, I don't know, 50,000 people
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have taken. You get baptized. I'm gonna be baptized in
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a couple weeks. You get connected to a small group.
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Join us for the next leg of the journey. The
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other group I wanna talk to, those of you who've
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been members here with me for years, thank you. I'm
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gonna do a message just for you soon, but thank you.
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And my challenge to you as we start not just
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a new year, but a new decade is fall in
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love with the church again. It is the hope of
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the world. It is the hope of the world. There
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is no politics that can save the world. There's no
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business that can save the world. Only God can save
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the world. And it is the only thing that is
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gonna last on this planet. Last verse on the screen.
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Ephesians 3, 21. All glory belongs to God in the church. See,
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in the church, glory belongs to God in the church
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and in Christ Jesus for all time and eternity. This
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is an investment that will pay dividends for the rest
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of eternity. Let's bow our heads. If you don't know
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Jesus Christ, you need to get to know him first.
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You need to be saved. You need to say, Jesus Christ,
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I believe in you. I wanna follow you. I wanna
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learn to trust you. I accept your forgiveness. You don't
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have to understand it all. Just say, yes, Lord. Yes, Lord,
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I want to know you, and I wanna learn to
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love you. Thank you for loving me. And if you've
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been on the edge, you say, I've been attending Saddleback,
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but I've never actually got connected. I've never joined, never
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taken the class, never been, baptized, you need to be
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in the family of God, if not here, somewhere. And
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I challenge you to make that commitment to join us
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this month. And for those of you who are already in,
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as I said, fall in love with the church all
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over again, realizing that there is nothing greater to give
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our time our energy, our effort to, it's the only
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thing that's going to last on this planet. Father, I
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pray for everyone in the sound of my voice. And
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as the pastor of this church, I ask you to
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bless them. Bless their past, their present, their future. Bless
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their bodies. Bless their minds with creativity. Bless their physical health.
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Bless their finances, bless their relationships, and whereas there's conflict,
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bring peace. We look forward to this new decade together
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with great enthusiasm, knowing that you're gonna use ordinary people
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in extraordinary ways, just like you have done. You didn't
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bring us this far just to stop, but all the
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past is prologue in a launch pad for the future.
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And we're saying today, we're all in. In Jesus' name, amen.
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If you want... Thank you. If you want to take
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out a card and write down the day you want
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to take class 101, write the day down. If you
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want to be baptized by me, get your reservation in.
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Have I told you lately that I love you?