Behind the Betrayal: Judas Iscariot's Motives Revealed

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that you guys are part of that. So we were talking about this passover

festival of unloving bread. Yeah right, kind of getting tangled up a little

bit. We know these things and still have a hard time tracking with it.

So by this point now two days from the passover passover would have been

the passover meal would have been Thursday night, is that correct? Yeah?

Yeah, which there, which they're not there yet, right right, right,

So they're probably right around Wednesday ish or Wednesday or Tuesday, because you

said two days before, right right, yeah, yeah, so it's he's

probably Tuesday evening. It is probably when he yesday would have been Tuesday.

Yeah, yeah, I think today could have been Wednesday. I mean,

doesn't specifically say tough, right, right, we're trying to piece it together,

yeah, because because tradition holds that Jesus entered in to Jerusalem at the

beginning of the feast, and uh no, no, the fact, no,

no, no, he was he was entering into Jerusalem on Sunday.

And then there's events that happened that we've unpacked, and then the actual Passover,

which happens from Friday to Saturday. All these events are leading up to

that, right. And by the way, they said we dare not yesterday

said they said, we dare not have him killed during Passover because the people

will riot, right, But it turns out that they do kill him on

Passover, Yes, right on the actual Sabbath, right Passover. So this

is what we're trying to say, is we're within a couple of days that

Jesus getting arrested. That's right, That's where we are in this last week.

Now, it's lots of chapters still left in the Bible, lots of

verses are left in the Gospels over this because the Gospels spend a lot of

time in this last week. So all of this time that we've all,

this last teaching we've done over the last couple of weeks, has been teaching

in the last week of jesus life before he is crucified. And then the

Yeah, anyways, so let's pick up Matthew chapter twenty No No, No,

Matthew. Chapter twenty six, verse fourteen is where I'm at. It

says, then Judas is Scariot, one of the twelve disciples, went to

the leading priests and asked, how much will you pay me to betray Jesus

to you? And they gave him thirty pieces of silver, and from that

time on, Judas began looking for an opportunity to betray Jesus. In Mark

chapter fourteen ten, it says, then Judas is Scariot, one of the

twelve disciples, went to the leading priests to arrange to betray Jesus to them.

They were delighted when they heard why he had come, and they promised

to give him money. So he began looking for an opportunity to betray Jesus.

And then in Luke chapter twenty two says, then Satan entered into Judas

Is Scariot who was one of the twelve Disciples, and he went to the

leading priests and captains of the Temple guard to discuss the best way to betray

Jesus to them, and they were delighted and they promised to give him money.

So he agreed and began looking for an opportunity to betray Jesus so they

could arrest him when the crowds weren't around. You know, it doesn't really

give us a lot of insight behind Judas's mentality. I mean, we do

know earlier that it said he didn't care remember when the woman broke the albaster

box and he said, why wasn't this money sold for the poor? And

then he gave us insight there because it said not that he cared for the

poor, because he often dipped into the treasury and stole money from time to

time for himself. So it's telling us he's a pretty cold hearted person who

loves money and was stealing from the ministry. And even as he was saying,

you know something to this woman, he literally could care less. So

we know that about him, right, but we don't really know, like

you know, so you know, was he was he a person who originally

started following Jesus with the intent to betray or was it the intent to like

just get rich, like I'm gonna get rich here, right? Or or

was it more like Matthew where he had this conflicting thing happening with his whole

life, you know, you know, Matthew obviously loved wealth so much that

he betrayed his own people. But then when Jesus, you know, redeemed

Matthew, Matthew abandoned that life and and was so thankful for the opportunity to

be loved and redeemed and forgiven. So did Jesus have did Judas have a

struggle with that? And he originally joined with good intent but then caught up

with being the treasure of the whole ordeal with money coming in, you know,

like what was it? It doesn't really say but you know, but

but it does say that Judas was one who initiated it, right, Yeah,

Judas started it, not the not the priests, right, which,

which, by the way, that's that could be a piece of new information.

It's in my mind, it's it's I can envision Judas being an enthusiastic,

uh follower of Jesus in wonderment early on and then becoming disillusioned and frustrated

because we all joined Jesus with our own agendas too, and if we don't

eventually learn to render our agenda to Jesus, we're going to beet frustrated with

Jesus too. And so I can see how there is kind of a moment

where he finally goes forget it, it's never going to turn out the way

I want it, and give up on the idea of what he thought Jesus

was. And then at that point, because he is greedy, because he

is kind of the money obsessed guy, he goes and says, I wonder

how much I could get out of this if it's all going to fall apart,

And clearly he could see he knew he probably heard the priests whispering and

talking there's a chance maybe Jesus, Yeah, And he heard Jesus squaring off

with him, and he heard Jesus say they're going to kill me, and

almost everything Jesus said, everything Jesus said had happened. Everything he said he

was going to do he did right. So somehow Jesus pulls off the stuff

he's talking about, and now it looks like Jesus is a little suicidal.

So if you've decided you don't think he's really the Messiah, the Messiah you

thought your disillusion, then Jesus just sounds suicidal. So you're watching the priests

whisper over there, you see Jesus threatening them, and then you see Jesus

and they're going to kill me. And then you know, man, there's

a crowd. You know that pilot often winds up doing some pretty you know,

killing people or whatever, and so you just kind of maybe he could

see the writing on the wall, and he was the first guy to bail.

Right, he's jumping ship in this moment, and he's thinking, Okay,

how can I ingratiate myself to them to protect myself and make a little

cash on the side. Right, I can totally envision that whole thing was.

I had a person that was important in my life, that I worked

with for a long time that for the first significant two thirds three quarters of

our time together was incredible, incredible, And then I just started sensing his

heart was leaving me, and I couldn't figure out why. Right, finally

he determined I was a false teacher and that my ministry strategy was wrong and

all these things. Finally I'll come up. But it blew up one day

where I was like, what happened? And it was like he just flipped

a switch and going I'm done and decided to burn the whole thing down,

burn the relationship down right, all that kind of stuff. And I remember

going, what in the world, And so I can see what where some

people would say he never was with you, I would say he was.

We were together, We were The difference was his desire and direction. What

he thought the final outcome was going to be was different than what I thought

the final outcome was going to be right, and so I was deeply hurt

by it. I was surprised by it, but I don't doubt his original

intentions I think were good, and then got disillusion that he wasn't going to

get what he wanted and then decided to destroy it. I wonder if that's

not what happened with Judas. I can see how it how it could have

happened that way. And then now he's just trying to cover his own hide

and make a little money on the side. Yeah, So there's a there's

a little thing in the New app or the Life Application Study Bible about Judas

is scurit and says it's easy to overlook the fact that Jesus chose Judas to

be his disciple. With the other disciples, Judas shared a persistent understanding of

jesus mission. They all accepted Jesus to make the right political moves. When

he was talking about dying, they all felt varying degrees of anger, fear,

and disappointment. The exact motivation behind jesus judas Is betrayal is unknown.

He accepted payment that said, it just goes on about you know, about

Judas. I guess, But again, I guess that wasn't very insightful other

than the fact that it's just unknown. Yeah, yeah, but you can

imagine how it could get to that point, yeah, right, imagine it.

It's been a long time, nothing really turned out the way he wanted

it to. So yeah, and you know, he doesn't even realize at

this point. Most likely that for agreeing to sell Jesus out for thirty pieces

of silver, that actually he is fulfilling prophecy. Right, there's an actual

prophecy that talks about this, and so Judas is fulfilling this prophecy. And

by the way, Luke is the only one out of the Matthew passage,

the Mark passage, and the Luke passage, it's the only one that starts

with Then Satan entered into Judas Iscariot, right, So that's the definition of

the devil made me do it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I would say that Satan's part in the betrayal doesn't absolve Judas, right.

Judas was clearly the one Satan didn't enter into John. Satan didn't enter into

Bartholomew or Thomas. So Satan uses us because the Bible says that we sin

because of our own desires. So Satan took advantage of his circumstances, his

desire at that point, yeah, and then used him because I don't think

Satan understood what was going to happen. I think Satan genuinely believed if he

could kill Jesus that ended the situation. Well, I mean, yeah,

I mean, think of the forty days being tempted in the wilderness. He

was wanting Jesus to blow his mission from the beginning, right, thinking,

Hey, my goal is to you know, to stop or trip up or

you know, thwart the mission of why Jesus was here, and I'm not

sure if Satan understood why. Yeah, I don't think that Satan had a

concept that the death and resurrection at Passover was the plan all along. Yeah,

right, So I think Satan thinks he's winning here and has no idea

because if Satan knew that all Jesus had to do was die and rise again

at Passover, and that would make it possible for us, since be forgiven,

he would not have entered into Judas. Right, So it lets you

know the limitations of our enemy. So he is very smart, he is

very violent and aggressive towards us, but the reality is he's very He's also

very limited. Right. God had a plan that was so far above Satan's

plan. It was like it was Satan's playing checkers and God was playing check

chess y. Yeah right, Well you remember the old you know, we're

fifties, so we remember Carmen the champion. Yeah yeah, yeah, nomber.

So it talks about the battle of Jesus and Satan being like a boxing

match, and uh and and this this isn't old. And by the way,

if you if you want to be amused, google us right now.

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uh, it's it's actually a pretty dramatic uh song, you know. And

then it says, uh, Satan throws the final blow and Jesus goes down

for the count, he says, and then God the Father, you know,

and he this real dramatic scene. He says, he begins to count,

and you know what he does. He counts, He's counts starting at

ten. He says ten, and he goes Wait, he imitates Satan.

They're talking, you're counting the wrong way. Nine. Wait, what are

you doing? God? Eight? Right? That's it. That's really funny.

So, you know, there's not too much other, you know,

else to unpack. I don't think in this scripture other than just talking about

the motives of of Judas, uh, you know, the fulfillment of scripture.

That's one, and then other than you know, let's not let's be

weary about, you know, Satan taking advantage of our desires in other words,

like just remember we're teaching on it next series, right, that that

our weapons aren't our enemies, not flesh and blood. That's right, it's

it's it's the spiritual forces in the world. We believe that there are active

spiritual forces that work against us, and that there's a battle raging in the

unseen world for our very souls. And we believe that that is very real,

and Jesus talked about it and and and there's evidence of it, and

so that that's a that's something we can grab from this passage. Well,

you'll have somebody say, Man, if I could just see Jesus do a

miracle, I would believe. I don't know. I think that's true.

Yeah, Judas saw all the miracles, he didn't believe. Well, and

then it still requires a certain amount of faith. Well, Jesus even said

himself, he said, even if even if Abraham and the prophets, what

do you say? He said? He said, they still wouldn't believe,

right, right, right, they still wouldn't believe, right, because you've

you've seen everything I can do, and you stoodn't believe. Right. So,

you know, as close as sometimes we get in close around Jesus,

but we don't actually have a saving relationship with Jesus. We've never repented of

our sins and turned to Christ. And so as a result, we got

close, but we never did actually have him change our lives. And I

think that's what you have with with Judas here is. He was close,

but he never yeah, never embraced Christ, missing heaven by eighteen inches yep,

distance between your brain and your heart. That's right. So well,

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