Agony in the Garden: Jesus' Struggle in Gethsemane

You're listening to the Bible Guys, a podcast where a couple of friends talk

about the Bible in fun, in practical ways. Well, hey, there,

welcome to the Bible guys. We're so glad you joined us. Today.

He's Chris and I'm Jeff, And today we were talking about Jesus in

the garden gassemine. Yeah. Yeah, we're getting there, aren't we.

Yeah, it's the next several days. We're heading towards the cross. Yeah,

and the most pivotal moment in all of humanustry restriction. You said this

right before we started recording, but you said in the next couple episodes,

by the end of this week, I think, right, we're actually gonna

get to the place to where no, no, no, no, how

many episodes do we have left in this series? A bunch? Oh we

do. Okay, by the time we get done with a series, we'll

have read every verse in the Gospels. That's correct, that's cract which is

really great. Yeah, it's just another month or so for us to finish

that up, and we'll have gone through every verse in the Gospels, which

is so cool. Yeah, super cool. So today, before we get

into the the study, we're looking at maybe one of the most important segments

we do. Oh yeah, of course, which is dad jokes. It's

daughter. It's a dad joke competition. So, uh, you know what,

I'm gonna go first because I'm really liking my dad jokes today. Go

ahead. So if these flop, it's in my delivery. It's not in

equality. I just want to give Desiree props on choosing my jokes today.

Oh I think she gave you all the good ones. Yeah, okay,

here you go. Here's my first one. Almost all garden gnomes have red

hats. It's a little gnome fact little gnome. Yeah. Yeah, yeah,

I think that's a funny one. You like that one. That's a

good one, like this one. This is a good one. This is

a good first one. Apparently exercising helps with decision making. It's true.

I went for a jog today and I decided I'm never going again. That's

a good one. Yeah, that's really good. Yeah, Yeah, that's

really good. My wife has a magnet on our refrigerator. Yeah, and

it says I didn't intend to go for a run today, but those cops

came out of nowhere. Oh that's great, that's good. Here we go.

I love my job. Lately, colleagues have been writing names on the

food in the office fridge. I'm currently eating yogurt called Susan. How cute?

Wow wow, Okay, that's okay. I think that was a funny

one. All right, here we go. I'd never want to be a

vegetation. It's just a huge missed steak. What uh huh supposed to be

mistake? Only it's missed steak. It says, I'd never want to be

a vegetation. It's just a huge missed steak. You think it meant vegetable?

Why is it missed steake? Yeah, I don't know. I don't

know. Well, remember I said it. I thought that I don't understand

that. I thought that you got all the good ones. Hey, we

should we should pull her on the show and say, what were you thinking.

Let's have a new segment right now. That's right, go on the

back. That's right. That should be a new segment. What was Desiree

thinking this week? There you go? Would it hurt the makers of avocados

to put a different toy inside? I have like fifty wooden balls already.

Oh jeez, you know the pit inside? Oh my gosh, did you

really? I can't believe I really thought that that explained it? All right,

here we go. Here's another one of these great ones. My son

likes to cause a scene by going up to his loft and playing the bongos

very loudly. It's a little dramatic, A little dramatic. Drumatic, yes,

a little drum it's the loft. It's the missed steak. It's what

that is. You've got a rough set there, buddy. Let me it's

a great missed steak, that is. It was a sad and disappointing day

when I discovered my universal remote control did not, in fact control the universe,

not even remotely. It's okay, all right, well it was.

It's clever. It's clever. It was delivered poorly, but it was it

was clever. Okay. What do you call a one legged hippo? I

don't know a hopo like that. One. That's a good one. That's

a good Okay, here's my last one. A Genie granted me one wish,

so I just said, I just want to be happy. Now I'm

living in a cottage with six dwarves and working in a mine. A little

bit of Disney humor there, and I know the other six names. Yeah,

what are they? Oh? Good? No, gracious, are you

serious? We don't want to do this, okay, okay, go ahead,

all right. Uh I think we can all get them, can't we?

He claims he knows them, But whatever, I think I can name

most of them. Okay, do you really want to do this? Grumpy

doc? Of course? You named grumpy first, Grumpy Doc, dopey happy

of course, sneezy bashful and did I say sneezy, Yes, you said

sneezy. Uh, sleepy sleepy. Yeah, we're gonna get it, all

right, Here we go. Last joke. I'm writing a book about reverse

psychology. Don't buy it, okay, yeah, right, all right,

So I don't get the vegetation one. That's the one. Yeah, we're

gonna have to hold her accountable for Yeah, everybody, I think it meant

vegetable, okay, right, So if a vegetable is a missed steak,

that's funny, is it? Though? It's better than vegetation. Vegetable,

it's just a huge mistake. Yes, even the word mistake doesn't belong in

that sense. I'm sorry, I'm trying to save it anyways. Yeah,

that is it. Yeah, well, thank you for listening, and that's

all we have today. Yes, that's great. Okay, So I thought

the funniest part of the entire segment was you saying, let's get Dizzie out

of here. That was really funny. That's right. I'm always I'm always

in the mood for you know, like you ever see like old horror movies

or something Frankenstein and the peasants come out with the forks and it pitchforks and

torches. I'm like, I'd totally love to have that character, right,

just go yeah, just cause trouble, ma'am. What is that called?

It's called a a raid? I guess, yeah, yeah something. So

anyways, Matthew exactly Matthew, Chapter twenty six, verse thirty six is where

we're at today. And so we laugh a little bit today, but we

take our faith very seriously, even though we don't take ourselves too seriously.

This is one those really serious, big moments. Actually, yeah, and

I think a lot of people will resonate with some of what we talk about

today. So Christ what says in Matthew Chapter twenty six, verse thirty six.

It says, then Jesus went with them to the olive grove called Kysemine,

and he said, sit here while I go over there to pray.

He took Peter and Zebede's two sons, James and John, and he became

anguished and distressed. He told them, my soul is crushed with grief to

the point of death. Stay here and keep watch with me. He went

on a little further and bowed with his face to the ground, praying,

my father, if it is possible, let this cup of suffering be taken

away from me. Yet I want your will to be done, not mine.

Then he returned to the disciples and found them asleep, and he said

to Peter, couldn't you watch with me even one hour? Keep watch and

pray so that you will not give in to temptation, for the spirit is

willing, but the body is weak. Then Jesus left them a second time

and prayed, my Father, if this cup cannot be taken away unless I

drink it, your will be done. When he returned to them again,

he found them sleep, for they couldn't keep their eyes open. So he

went to pray a third time, saying the same things again. And then

he came to disciples and said, go ahead and sleep, have your rest.

But look, the time has come. The son of Man is betrayed

into the hands of sinners. Up, let's be going. Look my betrayer

is here. In Mark chapter fourteen, verse thirty two, it says they

went to the olive grove called Ysemone, and Jesus said, sit here while

I go and pray. He took Peter, James and John with him,

and he became deeply troubled and distressed. He told them, my soul is

crushed with grief to the point of death. Stay here and keep watch with

me. He went on a little further and fell to the ground, and

he prayed that if it were possible, the awful hour awaiting him might pass

him by. Ah Bah, Father, he cried out, everything is possible

for you. Please take this cup of suffering away from me. Yet I

want your will to be done, not mine. And then he returned and

found the disciples asleep, and he said to Peter Simon, are you asleep?

Couldn't you watch with me even one hour? Keep watch and pray so

that you will not give in to temptation. For them, the spirit is

willing, but the body is weak. When Jesus left them, again and

prayed the same prayer as before. When he returned to them again, he

found them sleeping, for they couldn't keep their eyes open, and they didn't

know what to say. When he returned to them the third time, he

said, go ahead and sleep, have your rest. But no, the

time has come. The son of Man is betrayed to the hands of sinners.

Up, let's get going. Look my betrayer is here. And then

in Luke chapter twenty two, verse thirty nine, it says, then,

accompanied by the disciples, Jesus left the upstairs room and went as usual to

the Mount of Olives, and there he told them, pray that you will

not give into temptation. He walked away about a stone's throw and knelt down

and prayed, Father, if you're willing, please take this cup of suffering

away from me. Yet I want your will to be done, not mine.

Then an angel from heaven appeared and strengthened him. He prayed more fervently,

and he was in such agony of spirit that his sweat fell to the

ground like great drops of blood. At last he stood up again and returned

to the disciples, only to find them a slip exhausted from grief. Why

are you sleeping? He hasked them, get up and pray so that you

will not give in to temptation. So Luke's the only one that includes the

Angel and the great sat great drops of blood, which is appropriate for the

doctor's right to record that. Yeah. So Luke was a doctor that that

he talks a lot about the physical things. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And what's amazing about these three passages? Again? This series compares the gospel

side by side, same thing, right, So this is found in Mahew,

Mark and Luke. Uh. What's amazing about it is John gives more

detail or insight into the story, and yet it's less versus you mean,

Luke. What did I say, John? Yeah, I met Luke.

I was steering at Luke and I said John, Yeah, because actually I

was thinking in my mind, Hey, John didn't record John didn't record it,

right, And then he said John, yeah, ye, but Luke

versus Uh? So yeah, we mentioned before this was a serious moment.

Is there a more agonizing moment? I mean, besides obviously Jesus on the

cross. I guess that would be the only other agonizing moment that Trump's this

one? Right? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean there's there's

oh goodness, gracious to sweat drops of blood. I read a medical look

at, a medical look at the Crucifixion, and I remember there was a

document published. Gosh, I mean, I was in Boba College when I

read through it, and it was a pretty lengthy document, and it had

talked about how all the greatest doctors in the world got together and pieced together

and broke out in groups and just talked about, you know what this condition

was. Well, apparently blood can go through your sweat glands. But it

can only this condition is called something hemo something. And then but it comes

through your sweat glands, the stress level has to be so unbelievably high that

that's how rare it is. Wow, and so and so when he sweat

great drops of blood, that is actually a thing. Now, think about,

you know, think about back then when they recorded this, I'm not

certain they really understood medically that that was even a thing. Right, and

yet now modern science, right in medicine, we're able to actually happened,

you know, how that happens, which is kind of cool. That's almost

like an evidence that the gospels real, right, the stories in the Gospel,

right, they're recording a thing they didn't understand that we currently understand,

yes, right right, yeah, you said it better than I did.

And then but they just that's one of those evidences that they just were writing

what they saw, right, because this is not something they would have looked

up on their phone. Do you wonder what's happening right now? Oh?

I guess that's a thing, right right? They had no because I mean,

how many people think of all the thousands of our listeners, I guarantee

you not one of our listeners has ever seen this happen, right right,

right, And it's so unbelievably rare, yes, that a person can go

to that level of suffering and still be alive, that's right, right.

So the fact that they recorded what they saw, it's not like it was

a thing they've ever seen before, but they just recorded it as fact.

And it's one of those little incidental things that proves to me that they are

writing what they actually saw, because it didn't make any sense at all,

right right, yeah. In fact, you might say that's a miracle,

question mark, like like you know, from Jesus, you know, you

expect all sorts of things. Ancient readers who had no access to the internet

would have went come on right, really right, right, that's it would

have just been one and more of those. And by the way, that

that could have happened, right for the first thousand years when people were reading

this, they could be like, that's the part of the Bible, that's

the heat, didn't sweat blood. I've never seen that before, right.

But anyway, as as the as you think about as a side note,

the medical look at the crucifixion. These doctors had walked through everything that we're

about to walk through what happened to Jesus physically, and they say that Jesus

was exceptionally strong strong. Yeah, exceptionally physically strong, well obviously spiritual and

everything else right mentally, But to go through these things, carrying the cross,

living, even through this thing where and his blood vessels are literally bursting

right underneath the surface of his skin, right and coming out in sweat,

is just that that level of stress normally would kill a man, right right,

a heart attack or a stroke. Yeah, and then and then it's

no wonder why the angel then comes and comforts him and strengthens him. Yeah,

and uh, and so think think about this as well. So we

always think Jesus is God, so obviously he could endure, you know,

a death, He could endure anything, and he's not going to be afraid

of such things. We could think that, we can be tempted to think

that that's not a big deal for somebody who created life and death. And

yet Jesus is one hundred percent man. So he's a hundred percent God,

but he's an hundreercent man, and so he you know, he experiences every

range of human emotion, including fear and everything else. And so he had

the full experience of stressing so badly knowing what's coming, and he's in total

anguish. Yeah, so you want to talk about anxiety, right, I

guarantee and nobody on our podcast a listeners group has ever experienced anxiety to the

point of sweating great drops of blood. Right, So Jesus knows you,

and he knows exactly what you're going through. He's been there. Right.

I read this and there's a note it's astounding as I was like, Oh,

I'm glad we're doing this one. There's a note in the Life Application

Study Bible for Matthew twenty six thirty nine that's exactly the way that I was

thinking about it. It says in times of suffering, people sometimes wish they

knew the future, or they wish they could understand the reason for the anguish.

Jesus knew what lea ahead of him, and he knew the reason.

Even so, his struggle was still intense, more wrenching than any struggle we

will ever have to face. What does it take to be able to say

I want your will to be done? It takes firm trust in God's plans.

It takes prayer and obedience each step of the way. Most of us

feel like if I just knew what was going to happen next, I would

feel better. Jesus did and he didn't. Right, right, Jesus felt

better in the context of saying, nevertheless, not my will be done,

but yours be done. Jesus, peace came and saying God, you're in

control. It did not come in knowing what was coming next. Right.

A lot of us were kind of a little bit control freaks, and we

want to control the future. We want to control what's going to happen next,

And that didn't help Jesus. He knew what was coming, and he

still experienced extreme anguish. Now he knew he was going to be separated from

the father, right, that was part of it. He knew that he

was going to become sin for us. He was going to take on all

the sin of humanity. These things are things that he would have never have

ever experienced in all of his experience at all, ever, and so this

was going to be extremely difficult. It was a horror kind of an idea

for him, but him knowing it didn't help him feel better either. And

so you know, I was thinking of at this, have you ever known

people that get in a car accident, Not to be overly graphic, but

people that are in a car accident that tense up, they know it's coming,

and they tense up tend to have greater injuries than the person who's drunk

and doesn't even respond or doesn't even see it's coming and they don't react right.

And so I think sometimes life becomes more traumatic because we're anticipating how bad

it's going to be, as opposed to just saying, nevertheless, not my

will, but your will be done right. When we grip the steering wheel

too tight, when we get all tense, everything hits us harder than if

we just would relax, let God, take care of it. Say whatever

you're going to do, God, I trust you in it. That kind

of peace will bring a lot more, I think, resilience in our lives.

And you know, God sends in the middle of that struggle, he

sends an angel to minister to Jesus, and I think you know if you

trust him, because it comes after Jesus says that right, I want your

will to be done, not mine than an angel from heaven appeared to him

and strengthen him. Right, So this submits to God's will. And then

God goes, hey, let me let me make sure you're comforted here.

So let's let's talk a little bit about Peter, James, and John.

First of all, he asks those three again right to go with him,

and they get to experience something intimate with Jesus. But they were sleeping,

well they sort of did, but missed out on most of it, right,

So they did a little bit. They were in the vicinity. They

were in the vicinity, yea. But he says, come pray with me,

and they obviously experience him feeling anguish. And then when he comes back

and wakes them up and says, can you not pray with me? At

least one hour. They they there's no question they sense his anguish, they

sense his desperation, but they're overwhelmedless sleep, and so there's you know,

there's this sort of a sad moment for Peter, James and John because we

can relate too. So the first thought that I have is this, because

I can relate in a lot of different ways. Number One is disappointing God.

There are moments in our lives where we, you know, like it

or not good or bad. It's not as if God's disappointed beyond the you

know, point of forgiving us, because obviously He forgave Peter James and John,

you know, and gave them understanding by getting up the third time and

saying go ahead and sleep right. But but you know, so even when

we do disappoint God, He's not going to look down on us. But

it's not only disappointing God and trying to, you know, do something and

failing, but also there's spiritual warfare that's happening to a degree that they are

apparently absolutely clueless about had they known exactly what's going to happen, because you

know, they're trying to piece together all the prophecies even though that Jesus was

pretty clear, they just didn't know the time was at hand, even though

he's been saying, here, you know I'm about to be betrayed. You

know that the time has calm. Hey, let's look at the pass of

our feast. This is my blood, this is my body, all these

different things. It just if you see me, you've seen the Father,

Yes, I mean all these things predicting his death is what I'm preferring to.

And it just appears like they just don't realize that the hour is right

upon them, and so they're sleeping. And I would think that if they

knew and understood what was happening, they'd be awake, right, I mean,

that'd be a pretty big adrenaline rush to see an angel comforting Jesus.

And Jesus is seeing prayer as a spiritual warfare thing, so he says,

keep praying so that you'll not give an a temptation. Right, So he

sees this as a spiritual encounter that's about to happen, and we need to

be prayed up and ready. And they're like, yeah, I'm really sleepy.

So they're living only in the physical and ignoring the supernatural. The spiritual

right, and Jesus sees it totally different here. Yeah, So I just

wrote a message last night and we're entering into a series about angels and demons,

and the thrust of the message is in sort of an introductory idea that

helps us all be aware that the spiritual realm is just as real as the

physical realm that we live in. That idea is either a great reminder for

all Christians or it's a brand new piece of information for those who really don't

think about it, but it is. I think it's I think it's necessary

for all of us to really truly think about that because I believe that Peter,

James and John they were on the mountain for the Transfiguration, like they

saw, they saw the spiritual realm. They understood that there are things that

happen. They were with Jesus, they saw miracles, and yet I think

even they need to be reminded there is a spiritual war that's happening around us.

And I think that when as Christians we know it, we need to

be reminded of that, probably every day, that there's a spiritual battle.

I agree, yeah, and that's how we need to pray watch him pray.

He says, that's right, that's exactly right. So that looks like

our time. Any any last thoughts, We're going to move on to next

day. Good job, Chris, thank you, Jeff, that's lots good

job all right. Well here, we'll see you next time on the Bible

guys. Hm hm