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Brokenness and Blessings: The Story of Abram and Sarai

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  1. You're listening to the Bible guys, a podcast where a couple of friends talk

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  11. very familiar sem It's the most important segment, quite honestly, in this show.

  12. It's the reason why people tune in. But I think that's it hoping.

  13. In fact, they just skipped from Friday to just They are just hoping

  14. that maybe today is the day that we get to find out what made Chris

  15. madd None of this is true, by the way, it is true,

  16. It is not true. It's the only reason I show up. No that's

  17. not true. I got out my thought, I'm going to the studio today.

  18. No, you're with me every workday. Oh well, so you already

  19. know things that make me mad. So let me go ahead and say this.

  20. Oftentimes when I get mad, I get mad on behalf of the public.

  21. Yes, it's incredibly noble. Yes, it is so noble. I

  22. don't get mad just for me, not for you, not for you.

  23. It's it's for us little people. You're like, you're like, not for

  24. you, not for you. Okay, So you love us, you love

  25. us, and you get irate I have for us. Yes, I have

  26. two examples of one topic that happened to me back to back just this week.

  27. And and here's the bottom line. If you're a restaurant owner and you

  28. in a restaurant, just do better on the menu options, do better.

  29. Just do better, because what ended up happening was, first of all,

  30. I went to a Mexican restaurant with my son, and I'm like, hey,

  31. can I do substitutions? I want to. I don't want to order

  32. all three of my tacos with this meat three chicken tacos or three beef tacos

  33. yea or l pastore or whatever it is, because they still have the meats

  34. in the back. So I'm like, can I just get one of each?

  35. And they're like, no substitutions, no substitutions. And then I tried

  36. different combos and I'm like, what about this is like no substitutions. And

  37. you know Mexican restaurant, it's all the same ingredients. So there's like a

  38. billion things on the menu. So they said no substitution in things, and

  39. it's it's various conversations of either flo flour or corn right tortillas and then combinations

  40. of beans, rice, approaching cheese, proteins. That's it. Yes,

  41. that's audio, yes and so and so basically, uh, but but no

  42. substitution, no substitutions, substitutions for you, yes, And I'm just I'm

  43. like, just do the math, Like if you own the store, do

  44. the math. That's it. Just just say, yeah, of course we

  45. can give you three tacos. Why because we have the proteins in the back.

  46. We could easily do that for you if we just did the math.

  47. If they said that's a three dollars up charge, would you have still ordered

  48. it? Of course? Of course yes. And so they missed an opportunity.

  49. Yes, they're leaving money at the table. Do you want to say

  50. the name of the joking, because that would be rude. It was granted

  51. as Teca. I like that place. Oh, I love that. I

  52. love it. It's our favorite mess REUSSI. But no, but no substitution,

  53. no substitutions. And then, uh, this happened to me literally just

  54. yesterday. I was with a buddy, uh in a sushi restaurant and uh,

  55. and this is just a side note. Uh, the server did not

  56. ask me if I want a dessert, which, you know, just as

  57. a side note. You know, I'm thinking, hey, if you own

  58. a restaurant, make sure you train your servers to try to upsell the person.

  59. But for some reason, I don't really get the desert. But I

  60. was in the mood and I said, can I see your dessert menu?

  61. And this is after she brought the ill, right, and I'm like,

  62. can I see the ressert menu? So she brings it. And here's here's

  63. my complaint. There was only two desserts offered, first of all, and

  64. that's that's a shame. But if they're too fantastic, dessert crime almost it's

  65. in my book. Two desserts is a crime all ready for this. They

  66. were both fried. They said, we offer you fried ice cream, We

  67. offer you fried like egg roll, something something something and I and I said,

  68. wait a minute, the only two desserts you offer are fried because there's

  69. a lot of people that don't need fried stuff, right, especially people who

  70. today's day and age, there's a lot people are going to shy away from

  71. that. And so I said, well, you have the ice cream in

  72. the back, because I know you do because you fry it. No substitution,

  73. no substitution for you. No, it must be fried. I'm like,

  74. I'm like, can you just just bring me out the ice cream?

  75. Wow? Here's what she said. She and by the way, to her

  76. credit, she was agreeing with me. She goes, I know, I

  77. keep on telling them, you know, I can't believe everybody's disappointed that there's

  78. only two fried options. I said, we'll just bring me the ice cream

  79. because because that I love ice cream. And she said, we don't have

  80. a way to ring that up. And here's what I said, Well,

  81. then I'll order the fried ice cream minus the fry, right, and just

  82. charge me for it. And she says, no, I don't think we

  83. can do that? Why? Right? Exactly? So this is this is

  84. what made Chris Matt well, you need to call the manager over at that

  85. point. This is what I want to do. I want to pay you

  86. for all of it, but I want some of it. It's not that

  87. hard for all of it. I probably want some of it. So you

  88. benefit in this equation, right, just give me the ice cream, dispatch

  89. the ice cream and so this no substitution's rule is you are irate about it

  90. on our behalf? Yes, just do better on your menu. You know

  91. why, because your menu should reflect flexibility based on the ingredients that you already

  92. have. Oh, yes, you already have it in the back. Yes

  93. you're not. I'm not asking for somebody. So did you buy a dessert?

  94. No you didn't. No money again, left money on the table.

  95. Right, So I thank you, Chris on behalf of all of our listeners.

  96. I want to thank you, yes for bearing that burden for us.

  97. Yes, well, I'm angry for all the customers. Thank you that want

  98. what they want. We can't. This is America. We can't thank you

  99. enough. Yes, you're welcome, thank you, thank you. We feel

  100. loved. It's like every Friday, you know why, we love the segment

  101. Every Friday feels like you hug us. You just collectively hug about a thousand

  102. people and say I love you people, and I've got you back. I'm

  103. protecting you. Every time I complain from a hug, that's the first in

  104. my life, it's because it's not for you. That's right, You're not

  105. complaining for you. I'm complaining on behalf of the world. I just care

  106. about the person that comes in after me that wants just ice cream because you

  107. don't care for yourself. No, no, I do care for me,

  108. but I get angry for the world. Yes, thank you, thank you,

  109. Yes, okay, welcome. Those really are my favorite segments. I

  110. love I love just busting your jo. It's really funny, really funny.

  111. It is a big hug. It is. That's a big, big collective

  112. hug for all of our listeners. He really loves you, guys. If

  113. you're sitting there wondering, Chris, does he loves you? I do,

  114. Jesus, so do I. Okay, So Genesis chapter twelve, we're gonna

  115. get into kind of a weird story. So God, It's yeah, it's

  116. a little unusual, sort of like a uh, it's a fallibility. It's

  117. it shows Abram's humanity. Well, it's only the second story about Abram.

  118. First story is wow, this guy must be super special, right, God

  119. chose him right, and says, I'm gonna make a great nation from you,

  120. and I'm gonna bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you,

  121. and You're gonna be a blessing to the whole world. And you go,

  122. wow, this guy must be like Saint Abram. Right, And the

  123. very next story goes like this in Genesis chapter twelve, verse ten. At

  124. that time, a severe famine struck the land of Canaan, forcing Abram to

  125. go down to Egypt, where he lived as a foreigner. As he was

  126. approaching the border of Egypt, Abram said to his wife Sarah, Look,

  127. you're a very beautiful woman. When the Egyptians see you, they'll say this

  128. is his wife. Let's kill him and then we can have her. So

  129. please tell them that you're my sister. Then they'll spare my life and treat

  130. me well because of their interest in you. Sure enough, when Abram arrived

  131. in Egypt, everyone noticed Sarah's beauty. Sarah is beauty. When the palace

  132. officials saw her, They sang her praises to Pharaoh the king, and Sarah

  133. was taken into his palace. Then Pharaoh gave Abram many gifts because of her

  134. sheep, goats, cattle, male and female donkeys, male and female servants,

  135. and camels. But the lord sent terrible plagues upon Pharaoh in his household

  136. because Sarah Abram's wife. So Pharaoh summoned to Abraham and accused him. Sharply,

  137. what have you done to me? He demanded, Why didn't you tell

  138. me she was your wife? Why did you say she's my sister and allow

  139. me to take her as my wife? Now, then here is your wife,

  140. Take her and get out of here. And Pharaoh ordered some of his

  141. men to escort them, and he sent Abram out of the country along with

  142. his wife and all his possessions. That's a weird story. Yeah, Pharaoh

  143. ordered some of his men to escort them, and he sent Abram out of

  144. the country along with his wife and all his possessions. He allowed him to

  145. keep his possessions, keep all the stuff he took. Yeah, it seems

  146. to indicate that, doesn't y Yeah, yeah, so does give me the

  147. possessions that he walked in with so if you remember, he left er and

  148. Haran with all of his wealth. That says that, and with all the

  149. people. So he was already a wealthy male, okay, and then Pharaoh

  150. made him wealthier with more sheep, goats, cattle, male and female donkeys,

  151. male and female servants, and camels. So Pharaoh just enriched him even

  152. more. And then when he sends himway, sends him away with all of

  153. it. Yeah, and uh, and what's so interesting is that, uh,

  154. it says, it says immediately, uh, it never says anything about

  155. a wife until the end. It says, when the palace officials saw her,

  156. they singer praises Pharaoh. Then Pharaoh gave Abraham many gifts because of her.

  157. Didn't say to have her as his wife, but apparently that's what he

  158. did. He married her. Pharaoh married her because he says he gave he

  159. gave Pharaoh Abram many gifts because of her sheep, goats, donkeys, And

  160. then at the end he says, why did you say to her she's my

  161. sister, and allow me to take her as my wife. So Pharaoh married

  162. Abram's wife there for a minute. Yeah, and then and then when he

  163. found out, he was like dude, what is your problem? Yeah?

  164. Right, because Abram was going as a foreigner into a foreign land. He's

  165. going down in Egypt. He was scared for himself, and what a weird

  166. line of thinking. But it turns out that Pharaoh would have thought the opposite.

  167. Pharaoh's explaining here that had you just told me you were her wife or

  168. husband, then I wouldn't have done any of these things. Right, So

  169. he really just believed he did fear, which is what we do sometimes,

  170. right, We make bad choices because we start to rehearse things that haven't happened

  171. yet, we start to guess how it's gonna turn out. We wind up

  172. making bad choices on that, right, Yeah, and that's what that's what

  173. happens here. So he's acting out of fear, and he asks her to

  174. tell it half truth because she was his stepsister, right, So Sarah,

  175. Sarah is Abram's stepsister and wife and his wife. So he marries his stepsister,

  176. and so he's like, hey, don't say because they might kill me.

  177. They'll kill me. They're gonna take you anyways, so let's not do

  178. that. And instead he winds up enriching Abram and take Sarah and then they

  179. wind up having a terrible plague. They said, the Lord sent terrible plagues,

  180. so it's plural plagueold, look at us breezing over that. Ye.

  181. So this is like God's power unleashed on Pharaoh. And somehow this was a

  182. conversation that you have to sort of read between the lines. So it says

  183. God sends plagues. Well, how did Pharaoh know that the plagues were from

  184. God? About Abram? Right, So there must have been some sort of

  185. like, hey, since you came into town, there's plagues, can you

  186. tell us about this? And Abram then probably had this time of confession because

  187. now Pharaoh knows the truth. He had to know the truth somehow, right,

  188. and he only knew the truth through them, right. This is such

  189. a weird thing. It seems at the honest face, it seems a little

  190. out of his character because he's very smart and he uses intelligence, so he

  191. trusts God. He's a wealthy man. He trusts God. He packs up

  192. and leaves home and goes where he doesn't even know where he's heading yet.

  193. He goes to Canaan, and when he arrives there, not long after he

  194. sets up. He sets up an altar worships God. And then a famine

  195. comes and for a lot of people, they'd start questioning, well, maybe

  196. I didn't hear from God. Let's just go home, let's quit. And

  197. he doesn't. And instead he sits there and he thinks a minute, and

  198. he goes, okay, you know, he uses his intelligence and he goes,

  199. there's food in Egypt. We'll just let's shoot down there real quick.

  200. We'll get some food. We'll be okay. Right, So he didn't give

  201. up on his mission. He went further from home because he wasn't going to

  202. leave God's plan. So he has this faith God's going to provide. He

  203. has intelligence to be able to work out a problem and solve it. And

  204. you know, from that area, from that area down to what would be

  205. like say modern day Cairo, although this probably wasn't Kiro's probably Thebes or somewhere,

  206. but it is only like three hundred miles three hundred something miles by by

  207. you know the way that a bird would fly. Now they have to kind

  208. of zigzag in order to get where they're going. But still, I mean,

  209. it's just he he didn't have to go very far. It's a few

  210. days journey in a couple of weeks, he gets down there and then he

  211. gets scared. It doesn't make sense that this doesn't make sense. It didn't

  212. scare you to leave home. For us, it doesn't make sense. It

  213. doesn't scare you to leave the source of your wealth. That doesn't make sense

  214. to me, right. It doesn't scare you to just go for months and

  215. months and months on a journey that you don't even know where to Canaan,

  216. with people that are hostile towards towards outsiders. It doesn't scare you to follow

  217. God there the famine comes. The Bible doesn't say that he's afraid of the

  218. famine, right, right, But he's just well, he just he solves

  219. the problem pretty easily, right, But he could have been we would that's

  220. us filling in the gaps there. So instead he just faces this problem as

  221. another issue and he goes on and he solves it. But then it does

  222. say he was afraid of Pharaoh, which is weird. How you can sometimes

  223. have circumstances come up. You're not afraid of circumstances, but how some people

  224. are very intimidated by other people. And that's what we have is he's afraid

  225. of Pharaoh. Yeah, so, so I have a different view of this

  226. entirely. I I uh so, well, then it's probably wrong, Chris.

  227. Whereas like and I know that it's it's I know that the Chosen is

  228. wonderful thing that I've been watching, and I know the Chosen is not based

  229. on Gospel. It's it's almost it's what is it called they take, They

  230. take liberty, poetic license. You know, this could or could not have

  231. happened. So there's a lot of cool things that happens that you know,

  232. you're just like, oh, that's cool. Could have been that way,

  233. and you understand that, you know, there's a lot of that is not

  234. based on they just sort of supposed a lot of things anyway. But the

  235. point is this one thing that the Chosen did for me is that it it

  236. inserted context and emotion to such a degree to whereas like, for instance,

  237. you remember how like when Peter threw the net over the side and then you

  238. know, so what they did is they created this this scenario where he had

  239. to have fish or else he was gonna you know, you know, be

  240. in trouble. And so then then when he pulled it in net in it

  241. meant more and all of a sudden, there's emotion attached to it. There,

  242. you know, the woman at the well when he when he met her,

  243. they had given him a little bit of background. They took liberty to

  244. create this. Mary healed with the seven demons. They explored her. They

  245. took liberty to explore this, so that when she was healed, it was

  246. so much more emotional than when you read on the text, And so it's

  247. just unbelievable. Well then also along with that they created like joy and fear

  248. and frustration and crying and things like this. And so it's easy for us

  249. to judge or look on paper and say, see, he wasn't he wasn't

  250. fearful here? Why was he fearful there? But you don't know what it's

  251. like when when you walk into Egypt. You don't know what he experienced.

  252. So I could just almost imagine, So this is me, you know,

  253. inserting my different perspective. I could almost imagine it like a movie shocker,

  254. And I could just I could see something him walking into a foreign land and

  255. seeing detestable practices or seeing you know, he wasn't maybe he wasn't treated well,

  256. or maybe they were looking at him. Maybe maybe he was walking through

  257. the city and he felt them judging him, or maybe there was something happening

  258. with the wives there where he just thought immediately, oh, no, like

  259. because of my wife's beauty, I know exactly what's going to happen, right,

  260. based on the rumors, based on there's so much there that we don't

  261. know that. You know, if we believe in the character of Abram,

  262. and we believe that he's a good man, then then we have to give

  263. him even more credit to say there must have been a reason why he went

  264. down this path, and maybe if you and I were there, we would

  265. have done the same thing. Yeah, that's sort of what I That's where

  266. my brain goes, Sure, well, absolutely, it's you know, not

  267. unreasonable for us to say, hey, we likely would have been as intimidated

  268. as him. It's just surprising sometimes when you see a person who has a

  269. long pattern of doing the right thing and trusting God suddenly being overwhelmed by fear.

  270. All the other ones they were circumstances, but this one was a person,

  271. and he was easily intimidated by this person, right, And that's the

  272. thing that surprises me is, you know, it seems like famine is a

  273. worse thing than coming up against a person or leaving home where you built all

  274. your wealth. Seems to be a bigger issue than a person, right.

  275. But for him, man, that's just how intimidated he was by the power

  276. of Egypt at that time. And I know what you're saying, because what

  277. you're saying has a lot of merit in it. Because if God promised him

  278. that he's going to be the father of many nations, yes, that means

  279. he's going to not be killed by Pharaoh, right, He's going to survive

  280. it, that's right, right, So why not believe in the promise that

  281. God gave yes, all the promises led him all the way there, yes,

  282. and then now he's doubting the promise. So there is definitely that side

  283. to it. That's the weird part to me. Yeah, but the people

  284. can be scary and when you get sucked into you know, I was in

  285. what would be Thebes or you know, I've been in Cairo. I've been

  286. in those places. Some of the ruins are magnifics. This would have been

  287. about two thousand BC, right, And so at that time it's hard to

  288. name a capital like we would call a capital today. But what is modern

  289. day Cairo that would have been a kind of a center. Then Thebes and

  290. Memphis would have both been centers for government. So it just depends on what

  291. the weather was like and where they were ruling out of at the time.

  292. But all of those places were magnificent. The scale of them. The construction

  293. there exceeded anything that was being built anywhere else in the world at the time,

  294. other than maybe of the Caldi's right there, Babylon area. But it

  295. was just magnificent. And so yeah, then you could kind of get sucked

  296. into the pomp and circumstance. We know how the Egyptians had all this formality

  297. and the gold and the two thousand years that this was a really really significant

  298. administrative center of the world at the time. So I understand that part of

  299. it. But yeah, you're right, he went there with the promise that

  300. God is going to make a great nation from him. Dude, you can't

  301. be killed. You're literally bulletproof. Do you have any kids yet? No,

  302. guess what, you're a bulletproof. But listen, there's another sermon in

  303. here though, because because then it comes down to maybe he thought to himself,

  304. maybe this is maybe my cunning intelligence of saying that she's my sister.

  305. Maybe that maybe that's the way that God's going to preserve Sure, sure,

  306. because God always bless half truth, right right, right, But that's what

  307. he did. And I think, you know, sometimes we can be too

  308. slick for our own good, right, as opposed to just keep doing what

  309. you're supposed to do. So it was incredibly intelligent, in my opinion,

  310. to go, hey, there's a famine here, there's plenty of food in

  311. Egypt. Let's just shoot down there a little while. And he went further

  312. from home, which sent the message to God, I'm not going home.

  313. He didn't go back the way he came, He went further south, right,

  314. And so he's sending a message, I'm still trusting God, I'm going

  315. to go back to the Promised Land when after we eat. I think he

  316. was very very strategic there, and then in this one he gets slick.

  317. There's difference. Sometimes we can be so clever we outplay our and that's what

  318. happens here. So there's a really great note Genesis chapter twelve, in the

  319. Life Applications stead of Bible, it says Abram, acting out of fear,

  320. asked Sarah to tell a half truth by saying she was his sister. She

  321. was his half sister, we know that from Genesis chapter twenty, but she

  322. was also his wife. Abram's intent was to deceive the Egyptians. He feared

  323. that if they knew the truth, they would kill him to get Sarah.

  324. She would have been a desirable addition to Pharaoh's harem because of her wealth,

  325. beauty, and her potential for political alliance. As Sarah's brother, Abram would

  326. have been given a place of honor, but as her husband, his life

  327. would be in danger because Sarah could not enter Pharaoh's harem unless Abram was dead.

  328. So Abram lost faith in God's protection, even after all God had promised

  329. him and told a half truth. When he lied, Abram's problems multiplied.

  330. Lying usually compounds the effects of sin. Yeah, there's a great sermon there,

  331. too, great. And it's almost amazing that Pharaoh allowed him to live

  332. and to leave. Yeah, right, because the plugs were so bad.

  333. He's like, hey, this guy's got some bad juju on him. I'm

  334. not touching it, right, or Russian power for ju Yeah, Yeah,

  335. all I did was take his wife and innocently right, and in their world,

  336. Hey, it's just a woman. Right, all I did was take

  337. his wife accidentally, and all these plays come out. Come on me,

  338. what's gonna happen if I actually killed this man? All the plagues will just

  339. never end, right, right? That I think that was it is because

  340. the Pharaohs thought they were gods, so did the people. And here's God

  341. squaring off with Pharaoh, just afflicting him with plagues, and he's learned the

  342. lesson, going, I'm not gonna mess with Abram, right, So there

  343. is there is that, but hey, and also, hey, let's give

  344. it up to Abram. Right, Sarah is pretty right, that's right that

  345. Pharaoh went, wow, right, I gotta have her. Yeah, And

  346. and and neighborham knew it right because going into town, he's like, yeah,

  347. I'm dating, I'm married to a supermodel, and he's gonna steal her

  348. from me. So there's this this issue that whole idea we're making jokes about

  349. the fact that men are trading in women, that that's a horrible thing,

  350. right, that there is this this this property kind of mentality. From this

  351. point on, for the most part, you see Abraham and Sarah or Abraham

  352. and Sarah their partners. Right, even even in doing the wrong thing this

  353. time, they do it again another time later where they where their partners in

  354. this uh in in doing the wrong thing. But you don't find Sarah in

  355. Abraham like Abraham lording over Sarah, although she did call him with respect,

  356. but you see them working together. But in this one, it was almost

  357. like he shifted to the mindset of the Egyptian world, which is she's property,

  358. right, right, So don't get me killed. You're not worth dying

  359. for. That's literally the message this man sent to his wife is you're not

  360. worth dying for. And so I'm gonna go ahead and risk it. You're

  361. gonna go in Pharaoh's harem. And uh. That's that's a pretty horrible,

  362. horrible moment in his life. Yeah, and so Abraham again, it's it's

  363. one of those things where even though it's so bad, it reminds us that

  364. God always has and always will continue to use broken people for great things.

  365. That's the whole reason why this story is in here. I think, right,

  366. yeah, yeah, God's going to use you. And so if you

  367. think you're a person, you're like, oh, but Chris, you don't

  368. know my thoughts. You don't know what I've done or my tendencies and I've

  369. always failed and I promise God and I mess up and all these different things

  370. that are so discouraging about you know, who you are versus who you wish

  371. you could be. For God, just know this, that God that never

  372. winks at our sin, He never you know, you know, just you

  373. know, It's not like sin doesn't have a consequences, severe consequences. Abraham

  374. almost does die here because of this, and yeah, God doesn't just blow

  375. off our sins. However, God will continue to use a repentant heart from

  376. a broken person to do great things. And so Abraham goes on this journey

  377. with God. And even in the midst of this, you know, obviously

  378. his brokenness and his humanity right here, God just still continues the bust.

  379. So you find multiple times where Abram does sacrifices where he's constantly making sure that

  380. God understands that he's repentant of his sin. It comes up again multiple times

  381. after this where his relationship with God was important. This was a bad moment

  382. in his life, but it doesn't define his life, and God only has

  383. sinners to work with, and so what he's looking for is teachable, humble,

  384. repentant sinners, not people who go on and continue to indulge in these

  385. sins. People who repent of their sins, turned to God, and then

  386. he continues to use them. So God puts the story right at the very

  387. beginning of the story of Abram, so that we can understand he doesn't have

  388. any perfect people to work with, and he can work with us too.

  389. That's great. Yeah, well, that is a great place to end.

  390. And so hopefully we will see you on Monday on the Bible. Guys,