The Plagues of Egypt: God's Unyielding Power

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the Bible Guys. We are excited today. It's good to be here.

Yes, and we are continuing with the story of Moses. Yes, and

we are amazed that you came back after yesterday's episode. I'm so sorry.

And by the way, if you missed yesterday's episode, I highly recommend that

you at least watch it or listen to it because that was a very unusual.

We laughed a lot yesterday. Yeah, we did all right. Well.

Today, before we get into Moses, we have a segment called would

you rather? Which I like these, don't you? Yes? It just

gives us a choice and we just have to pick one, whatever our preference.

We've already done would you rather? Didn't we? Oh? Did we?

Yeah? We did? Would you rather? Yesterday? Oh? My

bad? Yeah? Yeah, I think it's most likely. It is most

likely. I just said it wrong. Okay, okay, so I had

to screw down further. So who's most likely? Here we go, ready,

who's most likely to survive a zombie apocalypse? Me? It's definite.

Me. It's definitely because why you have weaponry? Yes, I have way

more weaponry than you. Yes, I have zero weaponry. Yep, I

have my kitchen steak knives. Yes, I was. I was. My

daughter wanted the data guy. He's a good guy, but I didn't know

him. And I said, hey, I have to meet him or he

can't date you. And so she finally opened the door. I had just

come back from my place where I hunt. I'd sighted in all my guns,

so my whole table was covered and guns. When when he walked in,

all hunting guns. I was cleaning them and I said, sit down,

John, let me ask you. What are your intents with my daughter?

You know, he's all intimidated, and I told him, I said,

I just need you know I'm not afraid to go back to prison.

I got a whole table full of Yeah. Yeah, so it's great.

I think I would survive. The didn't even plan. I didn't know what

was happening, right, It was totally a random thing. It was.

It was like a gift from heaven. Gift from heaven when he walked in.

So it's great. Yeah, all right, it's number two who's most

likely to talk to animals if they could understand them. You me, definitely

you yeah, yeah. Why is that because you already talk to animals and

you can't understand them? Is it true? Yes, of course it's true.

It's so true. And I get it from my wife. Honestly.

It's thirty two years of being with her and it is it is her talking

to animals, and so we do the same thing. It's so funny.

Oh my goodness, that is so good. Number three who's most likely to

be caught talking to themselves? This is a tough one. Yeah. I

think we're sort of the same. I talk to myself, do you Yeah?

Then I have to say you yeah, yeah, because I don't really

talk to myself. Well, it's hard to find interesting people to talk to,

So I just talked to the best choice. Sometimes I'm just the bench

choice. That's right, all right. Number four? Who's most likely to

binge watch an entire season of TV a TV show in one day? You?

Yeah, by far Me, by far Me. Now I've done it.

I have done it, have you? Yeah? Yeah? Yeah,

but so I've just been binge watched the entire ten seasons of Blacklist. Oh

in a very short amount of time. Wow, and each of those have

like twenty five episodes, right, and there's just a long season sixty minutes

long. And uh, and I got from We'll put it you this way.

Uh, it's I started it when you and Chad mentioned it. Oh

wow, yeah, so I think two months ago, two months ago.

Yeah, I just burned through them. Yeah. Uh and so yeah for

sure. And then number five, who's most likely to accidentally walk into a

glass door? Well, I've walked into a glass door several times. I

several times. Yes, Well, I'm gonna have to go with you then.

Yeah. Although my instinct was to say me, I, well I

I actually now that I'm I was gonna say me, but now I'm changing

answer to you, But my instinct was the same because I couldn't picture you

walking into a glass door. Yeah. I've walked into a glass door several

times. Wow. Yeah, I was in I don't think I've ever know

this. So the reason why I was so quick to say that is we

were staying at quite a nice hotel Inn Sri Lanka last week and this happened

last week last week, and it was one of those ones that go round

and round and round. Yeah. Yeah, the rotating doors like the rotating

door it was, and uh, I didn't see they had a sign up

that we need to go out one of the other doors they were doing maintenance

on it locked it. I hit my It was a full flat face and

when I stepped back, you could see where my face hit the glass.

Wow. So okay, so I probably have walked into a glass door maybe

sometime in my life, but I can't even remember it. Yeah, no,

I'm serious. It happened literally last week. So so regardless of my

answer, the true answer is you yeah. And this was we had a

special meeting in the city and we were staying at a very nice hotel.

So everything about it was embarrassing. Everything people were calling to me. I

was talking, which is terrible, and I wasn't paying attention. People were

calling to me the like the doorman and stuff, trying to get my attention,

and I'm ignoring them because I'm trying to finish my sentence. And I

turn around and bam right into the glass because the thing wasn't turning. So,

in other words, the worst case scenario. Yeah, everybody's watching,

they're calling out to me. It's all these rich people standing around. It's

a swinky place. Yeah, the whole thing, right, yep, So

I've done an It's like Michael Scott falling into the coy pond. There you

go. So all right, So that that wraps up that segment. And

so we are going to be moving on to the plagues of Egypt. Dun

Dun, dun dung. And this is big man, this is these next

several chapters. We're not going to read every verse in every chapter here,

but these next several chapters are so apocalyptic, like their movie worthy. Every

element is its own could be its own movie, right, but hey,

that'd be cool. Snakes on a plane. We should know. We should

talk to some of our movie producer friends and get them to make disaster movies

of all ten of these things. Oh there you go. Yeah, it'd

be like just this ongoing it'd be like the Marvel Universe. Yeah, yeah,

movies leading up to the culination exactly. Okay, anyways, here we

go. I'm gonna read five verses out of Exodus five and then we'll jump

to Exodus chapter seven. It says, after this presentation to Israel's leaders,

Moses goes and tells all the israel Israelite leaders, Hey, God, sent

me, and they believe him. Right. But then after this presentation to

Israel's leaders, Moses and Aaron went and spoke to Pharaoh. They told him,

this is what the Lord, God of Israel says. Let my people

go so they may hold a festival in my honor in the wilderness. Is

that so, retorted Pharaoh? And who is the Lord? Why should I

listen to him and let Israel go? I don't know the Lord, and

I'll not let Israel go. But Aaron and Moses persisted. The God of

the Hebrews has met with us, they declared, So let us take a

three day journey into the wilderness so we could offer sacrifices to the Lord,

our god. If we don't, he will kill us with a plague or

with the sword. Pharaoh replied Moses and Aaron, why are you distracting the

people from their tasks? Get back to work. Look, there are many

of your people in the land, and you're stopping them from their work.

So then Pharah gets mad, right, and he makes the work harder.

Yeah, well, he actually refuses to give them straw and says, hey,

try making bricks without straw, And so they back to a binding agent

right, Yeah, the binder, and so they had to make bricks without

straw. And then therefore, what he was really trying to do is he

was trying to get the people to turn on Moses, right, and so

by punishing the people. But it turns out that the people supported Moses more

because after all, he was their spokesman, he was their champion. So

then in chapter six, God tells Moses, now you'll see what I'll do

to Pharaoh when he feels the force of my strong hand to let the people

go. In fact, he'll force them to leave his land. But they

just can't imagine how it's going to happen. And then finally you get to

chapter seven and in verse fourteen, it says, then the Lord said to

Moses, Pharaoh's heart is stubborn, and he still refuses to let the people

go. So go to Pharaoh in the morning as he goes down to the

river, and stand on the bank of the Nile and meet him there.

Be sure to take along the staff that turned into a snake, and then

announce to him, the Lord, the God of the Hebrews, has sent

me to tell you let my people go so they can worship me in the

wilderness. Until now you've refused to listen to him. So this is what

the Lord says. I will show you that I am the Lord. Look,

I will strike the water of the Nile with this staff in my hand,

and the river will turn to blood. The fish in it will die,

and the river will stink. The Egyptians will not be able to drink

any water from the Nile. Then the Lord said to Moses, tell Aarin,

take your staff and raise your hand over the waters of Egypt, all

at its rivers and canals and ponds, and all the reservoirs. Turn all

the water to blood. Wherever everywhere in Egypt, the water will turn to

blood, even the water stored in wooden bowls and stone pots. So Moses

and Aaron did just as the Lord commanded them, And as Pharaoh and all

of his officials watched, Aaron raised his staff and struck the water the Nile.

Suddenly the whole river turned to blood. The fish and the river died,

and the water became so foul that the Egyptians couldn't drink it. There

was blood everywhere throughout the land of Egypt. But again the magicians of Egypt

used their magic, and they too, turned water into blood. So Pharaoh's

heart remained hard. He refused to listen to Moses and Aaron. Just as

the Lord had predicted, Pharaoh returned to his palace and put the whole thing

out of his mind. Then all the Egyptians dug along the riverbank to find

drinking water, for they couldn't drink the water from the Nile. Seven days

passed from the time the Lord struck the Nile. Seven days, seven days,

And you can't go without water for more than what four days, three

days, three days? Yeah, yeah, And I mean that's the extreme.

Yeah yeah. And so so they were digging for water and apparently they

were able to find water digging apparently, right, Yeah, So all the

existing water, including all the water stored in homes, all the water stored

in reservoirs, and he struck it in the Nile. And we've been to

the Nile, right, So the Noile River is quite large, and it's

fierce. It's raging, right, and not raging in terms of waves,

but in those in those days, it would flood quite often, right,

could flood its banks. And yeah, yeah, well, I just mean

raging in terms of its current. Oh, it's a strong current. Yeah,

it's a really strong current. And so and so he you know,

he holds up the staff and everything turns. The blood and by the way,

blood, think about that's gross, the consistency of blood, right,

so, you know, and just the poor fish, right, so as

hot as it is in Egypt, even during the so the smell of rotting

fish and everything else that's in the river is that's just gross. But the

river is about three thousand miles long, and all of the people live within

just a few miles of the river, so it's about in some spots it's

about seven miles out on either side of the river is where the majority of

the people live. They built canals and they go out and water their gardens

and their farms. It's really green. It's like this belt of green.

It's really beautiful. But the life of Egypt is and always has been the

Nile River. And so they worshiped the Nile like it was a god.

And so for God to go after literally the lifeblood of Egypt by turning it

into blood, undrinkable, killing everything in it. So the other thing is

every little restaurant serves fish, right. The amount of seafood that is eaten

in Egypt is unbelievable. It's a tremendous amount of fish, fish, which

is one of the main protein sources. And so he kills the food and

the water right all in one day and it lasts for seven days. But

the most astounding thing is in the same way, Pharaoh goes, who is

this God? I don't know him, I don't know the Lord right then,

and this one, the Bible literally says, Pharaoh returned to his palace

and put the whole thing out of his mind. Well, because his magicians

did it. Yeah, they could turn water into blood. Yeah, and

so what do you make of that? Yeah? So witchcraft, magician like,

sorcery like that's that's apparently that's a thing. The Bible says it's a

thing. So so are you. I've always been taught that any supernatural power

that exists that isn't from God is demonic, is demonic. Yeah. Yeah,

so we believe that, don't we. Yeah? So I if this

was a so they're magicians, right, And so there's a difference between a

magician and a sorcerer or a witch or you know, a witch doctor.

So it could have just been a trick because if you remember we didn't read

this passage. But when when Moses uses his staff and turns it into a

snake, so do they right? But even now there are some snakes that

you can charm into being rigid and straight. Right, And so they might

have just pulled off a trick where Moses didn't. Moses did a miracle.

God did a miracle through Moses. The magicians could have done a trick to

have duplicated that one and then this one too. Hey, a little bit

of red dye, right, something to fool, a slight of hand to

fool the pharaoh. Somehow these magicians are keeping Pharaoh's attention. He believes they're

legit. But man, have you ever seen close up magic and you just

can't figure out how to is? Hey, well, we have a friend,

we have a friend that's done some magic for us before. I remember,

yeah, and he's amazing up close magic. And I look at it

and go, I have no idea how he pulled some of those things off.

Right, So it could have just been a tri that they did.

But it was believable enough that Pharaoh went, my people can do it too.

Yeah, I did believe it. I've had people in my house for

a birthday party for my daughter, a friend of mine, and he did

up close magic right in front of my face. And I was afoot from

him, like examining the trick, and I said, I have no idea

how you did that. Right, then he explained it to me and I

was like, oh, not get it, but yeah, it's it's pretty

amazing how you can fool somebody. Yeah, so it could have been a

trick. But on the other hand, it could have been full blown evil

miracle. Right that a demon did. I know. You know a lot

of the work that I've done around the world, in especially in Africa,

I've known witch doctors that have become Christians, and those witch doctors have have

articulated that, yeah, some of that power is very real. One witch

doctor he could make it, make it thunder right, and he said it

was it was demons that would do it. So, you know, it

could have been either way. But Pharaoh was thoroughly unimpressed, right, which

is unbelievable to me. Yeah, well, I mean, obviously the magicians

weren't able to pull off something as extravagant as what Moses did, but just

the fact that it at least could exist and think about the stakes. The

stakes were so high, you know. Again, I mean, if it's

estimated, most callers believe that the Egyptians or the Hebrews were you know,

maybe up to a million people. Imagine if you had a slave working force

of a million people, Like, what can that group of people do?

And the answer is they could do anything. Right, they can build the

pyramids. Oh, don't even get me started on that one. They didn't

build the pyramids. They did, I know, the pyramids already existed.

That the pyramids existed before Joseph, the Pyramids existed before Jacob showed up.

I only say that I only made a joke because people think Aliens. Both

there's no way that you can over a forty five degree angle move three tons

with a lever, and yeah, that's just that's just it's not saying it

was Aliens. But right, right, So anyway, the uh so this

idea that like, not only does he do a plague of blood, but

then he goes on because Pharaoh hardens his heart. Pharaoh says no, he

refuses, and then what happens is they go through a plague of frogs next,

and it says, so many frogs infested everything. They were in their

houses and their beds, yeah, everywhere. And then they began to die,

the frogs. The frogs do. And it says that the Egyptians piled

them into great heaps, and the terrible stench filled the land. Ah.

And then after that was a plague of gnats. Can you even imagine gnats?

Just raise your staff and strike the ground and the dust will turn into

swarms of gnats throughout the land of Egypt. And then it says there's a

plague of flies. Yeah, and it said it covered everyone, people and

animals alike. Oh and by the way, last night we had one fly

in my house. We were watching TV. We had one fly and it

was the worst. And I'm just like, get the fly away. Can

you imagine a plague of them where they're just all over you. Did you

ever see an animal that covers with so many flies? Yeah, it just

sort of surrenders to it, especially the biting flies. Right, So there's

a difference between nats, gnats, and flies unless the flies were biting flies

or some kind of a right, So gnats and flies seem like it's the

same plague almost unless you know, so the one is a harassing thing.

The other one, I'm going to bet these were the biting flies, because

I've been bit by so many flies in Egypt, so I'm gonna bet that's

what that was. And then then there's a plague of livestock where actually he

actually struck the livestock donkeys, camels, cattle, sheep, goats with a

deadly plague. And so the plague against the livestock was just, man,

I'm sure that was massive. All the animals died, right, so you

survive. So the animals were you know, you didn't have cars, right,

so these these were this is what pulled the wagons, and this is

what hauled the lumber, this is what plowed the fields. This is what

they used for milk. Right, you just go down the line every and

they all just died. But it says that the people of Israel didn't have

problems with these things. Yeah, which, by the way, the churn

of Israel in the land of Goshen is where they were. They even you

know, even the even the the darkness which we're about to see, didn't

didn't affect their their their city, which is amazing. And so and the

people didn't lose a single animal. Then the gross one maybe of all of

them is festering boils. Right, So they wind up having this whole season

of festering boils. But the Bible keeps saying Pharaoh refuses to listen. Pharaoh

refused to let the people go over and over. So now everybody were uh

struck with boils. And they took suit from the bricks, they took ashes,

and they again to dry out those things, but they couldn't even hardly

stand and they were completely covered in festering boils. And the animals, yeah,

so not had to toes, but the animals had to toe. And

then a plague of hail. So the hail comes down and uh you know

just I mean, I'm sure you've been in a hailstorm before. Oh yeah,

but hale covering the land of Egypt and not again, not the Egyptian

or not the Hebrews, so that's pretty weird. And then and it wipes

out all the almost all the fields, livestock in the fields, right is

what it is. What it winds up destroying so food, all those things.

And then a plague of locusts, and that's got to be just probably

even just as bad as the gnats and the flies. So what wasn't destroyed

by the It says all the flax and barley were ruined by the hail,

right because it was that time of the year. But then whatever wasn't wiped

out by the hail, the locusts came and just cleaned right down to the

ground. Wow. Right. Then it says the plague of darkness. And

this is where this one amazes me the most, because it says darkness covered

the entire land of Egypt for three days, and during that time that people

cannot see each other. No one moved for three days. No one moved.

But he says, but there was light as usual where the people of

Israel lived, Are you kidding me? Which means like, if you live

in their city, you look up and there's the sun and you're just la

la lah. And then you leave the city, you go to where the

Egyptians lived, and there's complete and utter darkness. And it says it says,

so dark that you can't see another person in front of you. That's

incredible, just pure blackness. So a couple of these times, now at

the end of them, what Moses or what Pharao would do is call Moses

back and go Okay, God got my attention. Go ahead, you guys

can go. And then after the plague stopped and the Bible said that God

would harden Pharaoh's heart, Pharaoh changes his mind, going, no, never

mind, it's over. Now you can't go. And so here's another one

where finally darkness is this way, and Pharaoh in verse twenty four there and

chapter ten says, go and worship the lord, but leave your flocks and

herds here. You can even take your little kids with you, but leave

your stuff. And Moses goes, nope, we have to take all of

it, and you need to provide more. And Pharaoh says no, he

gets out, get out, get out of here, don't come back.

I don't ever want to see you again. And Moses goes, okay,

I'll never see your face again, and he leaves. And then tomorrow we'll

talk about the tenth and definitely the worst plague. Yeah, should we introduce

the plague now and then talk about the pass over tomorrow or should we just

say the whole thing for tomorrow. Well it's a cliffhanger, Okay, cliffhanger

it is, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So when it comes

down to it, it's the most interesting thing about all this, all these

plagues and all this, all of this chapter is the fact that it says

that the Lord was the one that hardened fair his heart right, And that

always confused me, because you know, it's one thing for Pharaoh to say

no, and then for God to keep on doing these plagues. But it's

another thing for you know, Pharaoh to say yes, and then the Lord

is the one who hardened Pharaoh's heart once again. And so I have to

believe that God did this for a reason that, you know, to convince

the entire nation instead of convincing one man, right to to demonstrate to the

nation that the Lord is God. You know, I, you know,

maybe maybe they had to go through all of those things in order to,

you know, understand that maybe for the children of Israel to see God work

on their behalf after being enslaved for four hundred years, not just one thing,

not just two things, but thing after thing after thing after thing,

just to let the children of Israel know how much they are valued. How

again, just these experiencing the fact that everybody's in darkness and you're in light,

to understand that you're favored, right, to understand that you're seeing,

you're heard, that you're valued, that you're loved. You know, maybe

God did this as an affirming message over and over and over for the years

that they've cried out in bondage and cried out and pain, you know,

because they were probably convinced at that point that God would have never showed up.

Right. So God shows up in a big way demonstrating his love and

his you know, value of them, over and over and over. Yeah,

this hardening of Pharaoh's heart. People point to this often that you know,

God was unfair, that Pharah didn't have a choice. What I can

tell you is at the very beginning, when Moses first goes and gives Pharaoh

an opportunity, Pharaoh goes, who's this god you're talking about? Right?

Pharaoh was familiar with tons of gods, and he knew that they were all

fraudulent. Right. He was a god for crying out loud. Right,

people viewed him as a god, and so he's like, your God's no

more powerful than anybody else's god. Right, That's how he was. So

in that moment, God didn't harden Pharaoh's heart. Pharaoh was cynical, he

was he lifted himself up, who's this god that I should obey him?

I'm a god too, right, And God didn't harden his heart there.

What God decided to do is okay with that kind of response, this is

going to be really rough for you. And every time Pharaoh's about ready to

change his mind, God didn't let him change his mind right through that whole

thing, because God was going after the ten major ten of the major gods

of Egypt at the time, the Nile River, blood, the sun,

literally the sun is the most important god. Yeah, raw, right,

and that's the last one. Is there's no darkness, frogs, all these

things. So he's going after weather. So he goes after all these gods.

And I think that you're seeing God harden his heart after the fact,

not at the beginning. So Pharaoh's heart was hard and God just didn't let

him change his mind from that point I see. But you're going to take

ten really big beatings here, right, meetings where you want to you want

me to show you how I'm better than every single god that you know.

That's right. So you made your bed, now you're gonna lie in it.

That that's that's kind of the thing. So it's not that God hardened

his heart. At the beginning, he decided he was a god and that

he didn't have to listen to the God of the universe. And then from

there God is like, Okay, I'm not gonna let you change your mind

for ten more plagues. Then you're gonna change your mind, right, And

uh, you know, I think sometimes we go through some stuff. Sometimes

got to go okay, hey, if that's a choice you're gonna make'm I'm

gonna let you live with that choice for a while. Now, eventually he

ends it. Even God's grace extends to Pharaoh at this point and ends all

these horrible things. But you know, there are consequences our decisions, and

God will let us live with our consequences. Yeah, and that's a tough

one. Well, that's a good cliffhanger. And so we will talk about

the tenth plague the next time on the Bible. Guys,