The Importance of Godly Discernment: 1 Kings 3:16-28

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This is the sports edition. Referees annoyed as football game

keeps interrupting their penalty.

Calls, which is accurate.

Kansas City, Kansas referees at a recent Chiefs game were

reportedly less than thrilled to find that an NFL football

game kept interrupting their penalty calls. According to several reps

at the game, the teams of players lining up and

trying to move the football across the field quote totally

messed up their attempts to keep calling random calls from

the favorite Patrick Mames. I blame the coaches, always trying

to get their players to get another play going, said

head referee Chut Brand as he adjusted his inch and

a half thick glasses.

Nice. Nice, We're all.

Busy here trying to invent calls people never even seen before,

so that our homie Mames could kick butt by all

these loser football players keep getting in the way, really

really disrespectful.

While fans have tended to take rather dim views of

the referees complaints, one source here referred to as quote

Patrick Metric poems to protect his identity, claims that the

ref's grievance is completely valid. At publishing time, NFL referees

had decided to teach those upstart players a real lesson

by awarding the next three games to Mahomes. Is a

penalty for starting a play that's so good.

So, because that was such a quick segment, let me

ask you this question. Do you believe I mean, I'm

a skeptic. I always had said that from the stage, Yes,

but I truly am a skeptic. I'm not sure people

understand just how skeptical my brain actually is. But like

when I start to see things that really look fishy

and they're hard to believe, Like I'm absolutely convinced that

things happen.

Like you know, when you watch NFL.

You're like, there's no way there's a conspiracy, no way

that they're trying to control an outcome. You know, there's

no way that Patrick Mahomes will slide, you know, and

not cross the end zone. He's gonna let the clock

run down the last twelve seconds because that would have

covered the spread. And by the way, the swing is

one billion dollars of bets.

But he's sliding.

He's not going to be on the take for a

million dollars, or the referees want Mahome to win, Mahomes

to win because the Chiefs bring in so much momentum

with Taylor Swift and all those kind of things. I

am actually convinced that there is some of that going

on in.

His favor for the Chiefs. I'm for Mahomes.

Well, I mean not just that.

I just think in general the refs are on the take.

I think that there's some of that that goes.

On, you know, so on an individual basis perhaps, but

I don't think for advantage, but more as a fan.

I think I think it's impossible for refs not to

be fans and to have maybe rose colored glasses for

the ours versus the average player, you know that kind.

Of like in their hearts, they want to see my

home succeeds.

They believe he did succeed right, right, right, So I

think that there's there's some of that, But to think

that there's a conspiracy behind it. The refs just don't

get paid enough money. So somebody would have told the

world because they would make more money writing a book

about it than they would than they ever will in

their careers. Yeah right, yeah, So so if they ever

if somebody actually broke that in a in a book

or in a news thing, they would be so rich

and they're not. So you know, man alive when you

have the vice president United States turn on a president

in what eleven days or something right dere in Watergate,

and he was offering to protect everybody, right, So you

get the most powerful person in the world offering to

protect you, and they roll over on them and then

they all go right. Books later, I think it would

happen some ref over the one hundred and some odd

years that football has been going would have exposed it. Yeah,

well it was conspiracy as opposed to just bias.

Of course, I believe that.

I believe that it's going to happen in some ref

that's what you're saying, but I'm saying it's way bigger

than that. So like, for instance, it happened for me

last year when it was an unlikely comeback. It was

the Chiefs, and I remember like they were going to

come back, and he was running toward the end zone

and there was nobody around him within like fifteen yards

and all he had to do was cross the end zone.

But he takes a slide on the two yard line.

What all he had to do was take a knee

on the next drive, right on the next down, right,

because he got the first down, and had he just

taken two more steps, the industry, the betting industry, would

have lost a billion dollars.

Well, how many seconds were left in the clock, like twelve?

Well that's why. That's why. So he doesn't want to

score a touchdown and give the ball back to the

other team with top seconds.

I do understand that.

Yeah, maybe that's the clock management thing there.

Maybe I'm wrong then, Yeah.

Anyway, all I know is all of our non football

fans are like, why are you guys talking about them?

That's probably true, that's pubbly true. Yeah, I guess because

we read a football thing, right. Yeah, I actually believe

that there are conspiracy things. Okay, and my wife gets

mad at me.

I think that way.

He also Chris also has aliens peeking in his window.

And I didn't say all that, but I do think

government conspiracy.

I mean, he sleeps with a moon land.

But I'm talking about like I'm talking about like us

being sheep and all that.

I started buying a lot.

Of the whole Roman Empire had that idea of give them,

give them bread and games, right, remember that right, freedom,

and let them give them some entertainment that they won't

overthrow us. Is that what you're saying?

Colosseum?

So this is these stadiums are colosseums. No, there are

gladiators that far. But but yeah, I think some of

it's rigged. I really do. Okay, Well, there you go.

You have it. Now, if Chris disappears, it's because he

said something. He exposed NFL now, and somebody's going to

catch you in the afternoon. Put a hood over head

through you in a white van. You're just going to disappear.

No, I did not say anything about with shove Obama.

Let's be clear.

No. No, we just got we just got canceled. We

just got shut down.

I said I did not, Yes, I know I did not.

Okay, so it's your transition.

Okay, okay.

So, speaking of making good calls, no, no, no, oh, yeah,

that's that's pretty good.

Dang it. Why don't you just do it? That was

really good. I can't talk that.

No, go ahead, go ahead, go ahead. No, we're trying

to do bad ones.

Speaking of making good calls, Solomon is about to execute

a brilliant good call in this scenario, demonstrating how much

wisdom he has.

Dang it, there you go.

That's a good one.

I blew it.

Good job.

No, you, it's you. It's all about you.

It's all about me. Let's be honest.

Yes you, you do.

You see the difference if you've never seen Brian Reagan's

comedy special I Walked on the Moon, Yes, you have

to watch it. Yea, it still holds up well, it

still defines a lot of our interaction with each other. Right, okay, anyways,

here we go. Solomon judges wisely in First Kings Chapter three,

and we're gonna start with verse sixteen. So he's been

sitting on the throne, he's doing all kinds of stuff.

God gives him wisdom. And then it says, sometime later,

two prostitutes came to the king to have an argument settled,

please my Lord. One of them began, This woman and

I live in the same house. I gave birth to

a baby while she was with me in the house.

Three days later, this woman also had a baby. We

were alone, there were only two of us in the house,

but her baby died during the night when she rolled

over on it. Then she got up in the night

and took my son from beside me while I was asleep,

and she laid her dead child in my arms and

took mine to sleep beside her. In the morning, when

I tried to nurse my son, he was dead. But

when I looked more closely in the morning light, I

saw that it wasn't my son at all. Then the

other woman interrupted, it certainly was your son, and the

living child is mine. No, the first woman said, the

living child is mine and the dead one is yours.

And so they argued back and forth before the king.

Then the king said, let's get the fact straight. Both

of you claim the living child is yours, and each

says the dead one belongs to the other. All right,

bring me a sword. So a sword was brought to

the king, and then he said, just cut the living

child in two and give half to one woman and

half to the other. Then the woman, who was the

real mother of the living child and who loved him

very much, cried out, oh no, my Lord, give her

the child. Please don't kill him. But the other woman said,

all right, he'll be neither of ours, neither yours nor mine.

Divide in between us. And then the king said, do

not kill the child, but give him to the woman

who wants him to live, for she is his mother.

When all Israel heard the king's decision, the people were

in awe of the king, for they saw the wisdom

God had given him for rendering justice. That's an eat story.

It's also incredibly unorthodox.

Yeah, we're not advising, but you keep a sword by

your desk.

Yeah, but I mean, what a brilliant, absolutely brilliant thing

to do.

Yeah, how do you sort out what's true?

Yeah, So, so as he's listening to their claims, and

and back then, you know, there was no footprint on

the birth certificate. I'm most likely right, there's no fingerprints,

there's no DNA tests.

So so back.

Then, I'm sure that this kind of thing probably happened

more than we would even care to think about, you know,

I mean there was there was probably no way for

uh uh, you know, think about it. You could probably

claim this woman's deranged, she's trying to steal my baby.

This is my baby, and nobody around you would know

the difference.

There's no proof, there's no winds, there's no.

Proof, right, you know, so so so yeah, I mean

they're They're going back and forth, and this entire time,

Solomon's only thinking, Okay, one.

Of these is the real mother.

What's what's What's a way to discover who the real

mother is? So it comes up with this elaborate thing, Uh,

you know, something that would just draw out the love

of a mother.

It's brilliant.

Yeah, it was fabulous.

Yeah, and so yeah, and so what where's the sermon

in here? The sermon in here is that either a,

you are going to exercise wisdom and take care of

the disputes among your staff and among your church and

among your people or your organization, or b. And this

is the thing that we all need to hear. If

you don't have wisdom, surround yourself with people who have wisdom,

because you can see the benefit of wisdom, right, oh man,

The benefit of wisdom here is unbelievable. And to have

somebody who is able to discern and execute wisdom, it

is a priceless thing that we should never overlook. You

have to have somebody around you. If you don't have

discernment wisdom, then surround yourself with somebody who does.

There's so many decisions that are more than just you know,

you read this story. You go, wow, he was so

smart and the right lady got the baby. Yep, But

what you're talking about is the lives of an innocent

woman and an innocent child. A kidnapper, right, right, so

an actual crime, an innocent mother, and and and the life,

the whole life of this child. So if this woman,

the wrong woman, had gotten that baby, that baby would

have grown up probably in a miserable situation, his whole life.

Yeah.

Right, there's been a resentment and right, well, wouldn't have

never known perhaps or the other way. She's she's already

a bad person. She's trying to kidnap him, uh and

and all these things. And so it's more than just

the moment that the decision needs to be made. It

really has uh life impacts on three different people. And

instead of of her maybe going on and doing more

criminal things. We don't know what she did, but she

was exposed as a criminal in that moment. That there's

a lot of these things that the kingdom is better

and the lives of his people are better. Innocent people

get justice, Guilty people find justice, right, And it's more

than just a good decision in the moment, right, We

could just read this stroying. Wow, he's so smart. But

this is a demonstration. This is why people loved him

so much. Right when all Israel heard the king's decision,

that people were in awe of the king because they

saw the wisdom that God had given him for rendering justice.

Now it's not only this circumstance. People began to believe

Solomon has answers right, it's solidified as leadership. Even more right,

David had several coups. Even his generals sometimes turned against

him because they would wonder, man, he's a little reckless,

and he was. Now he always landed on top, but

he was reckless, right, And now they see this stable thinking,

this deep wisdom, and it's one of the things that

caused his people to love him deeply. They made significant

sacrifices for him because they believed in him. They really

trusted him. And so it's the life impact of these

women and this baby. But it also affected the entire

kingdom where they began to go, oh, wow, we've got

a good one. We've got a good king. And you know,

I think we've seen in our in our nation over

the last few presidencies. Our nation doesn't have a lot

of trust in our leaders. Right, So the whole nation

is unstable, right, Right. When there's a lot of trust

in a leader, the nations tend to stabilize, right, because

the leader is able to build confidence in the people.

And this is what you see in Solomon's reign from

here on out, that people sacrifice, that people work extra hard,

they give even more of their resources. They're willing to

do whatever it takes for the betterment of the kingdom

because everything is getting better because they have a great leader.

And this is one of those things that establishes that.

So I love it. I think it's fantastic.

Yeah.

So, so, of all the spiritual gifts, wisdom is a

spiritual gift.

Right, yes, huh yeah.

And so there's knowledge, there's wisdom, there's discernment, there's there's

those three.

Yeah.

Right, what is the difference. We've already talked about the

difference in knowledge and wisdom. What about discernment?

Yeah, So, so I maybe misspoke this a little bit

yesterday I lumped wisdom and discernment together. So knowledge is

knowing stuff, yeah, facts, right, Right, it's the lowest on

this scale.

Right.

Wisdom is knowing the right thing to do. Discernment is

all about the right thing, the right way, with the

right people in the right moment, right right. It's Discernment's

all about applying wisdom. So discernment has no use apart

from wisdom. So that's why wisdom is the principal thing.

So is discernment the one that's connected to God hearing

from God? Is there a God component to discernment that

does not exist with wisdom because wisdom can be either

godly or worldly.

Wordly wisdom, Yeah, yeah, I think so. I think good

question as a spiritual gift. Certainly wisdom is a spiritual gift.

I think that all those are God connected as opposed

to worldly wisdom and worldly discernment. I think that there

are people who are discerning that that are able to

put too and two together. Usually highly discerning people have

a strong sense of logic, right, which is the science

side of it, but then also have this instinct of

being able to see through the words being said or

the circumstances. Right. There's some people just have that good

instinct like that. That's not necessarily the spiritual gift side.

But what God does with spiritual gifts is he takes

things that would be a normal strength that somebody has,

and he says, I'm going to supernaturally enhance that in

you as you you know, all of God's if then

promises with Solomon, if you choose to do these things,

they pour this out on you. And yeah, so the

discernment side is in my mind, when you have somebody

who has like the gift of prophecy or a word

of knowledge as if, I will say that those have

discernment kind of gifts to them are supernatural. Yeah.

So I've been told in the past, and and it's

so funny because there are times where you know, you

never you never can rate yourself right. Other people have

to rate you right. It's the same thing.

When well one Corinthians chapter fourteen says, when it's talking

about spiritual gifts, says, the profits are subject to the prophets.

That's right, meaning those who have certain gifts are only

the only ones that can really affirm it in others.

That's right, that's right, that's right.

And so yeah, if you have the gifts of teaching,

you recognize the gifts of teaching, and then you say, hey, you.

Have the gift of teaching, you're a good teacher. Yeah,

that's why everybody else might say I like his teaching, right,

but somebody with gifted teaching goes, here's why you're a

good teacher. This is what makes you a good teacher.

That's right. I see you. I see the potential in

you as being a great teacher, right right, I see

this gift in you. And so spiritual gifts are often

affirmed by or should be affirmed by the ones who

have those spiritual gifts.

Yeah, which is incredibly wise, and it's a great rule

of thumb.

So wisdom is one of those things you can begin

to believe maybe God's given you some wisdom, but it's

only affirmed in others. Others will affirm it in you.

So here's here's what I would say.

There are times in my life where I was I've

been told by others and it's been affirmed where I

have wisdom. And so it's like, so you know the

right thing to do in the moment. I think I

have some of that. You know, now, is it incredibly high?

I would say it's on the higher end. Maybe I

don't think it's as high as some. But then there

are times in my life where again this is just

where the weird part falls.

In.

But there are times where I think I have good discernment.

But I think that there have been other areas of

my life where where there's a gaping hole. I think

that's the part that lacks discernment. So I've been told

by others who says, who tell us, hey, man, you

get good knowledge, you demonstrate great wisdom in a lot

of ways, but there are times in your life where

you lack discernment, and and I think that that is

true for me. Yeah, So that's why.

What we can have competing things that can challenge even

the spiritual gifts we have sometimes, right, So it's uh, yeah,

I can I can see that, I think in all

of us and everybody that has So if I ever

take spiritual gifts, test wisdom and discernment both come in

my top five. Right, So those are both there. But

I also found myself making dumb decisions and then later on, look,

bang go, I knew better than that, right, but I

had some other my heart. I was chasing my heart.

I was doing something where I had some kind of

competing thing working against me in the moment, and I

wound up making a dumb decision. That didn't mean I

don't have wisdom and discernment. It just meant in that moment,

I didn't surrender to it. I surrendered to another part

of my life that pulled me away from wisdom to discernment,

which is the dichotomy of Solomon's life. Right, he has

the most wisdom of anybody in history, and yet he

chooses to marry a thousand women and follows after and

begins to make you know, temples for their gods.

Yeah, how does he do that? I've always careful to

points I followed his heart right.

He follow his heart right, and he's the one that says, God,

follow your heart, don't follow your heart.

Guard your heart.

Yeah, she was wise enough to warn us, right, and

then he did.

It right, don't do what I do.

So it's possible to be a godly person didn't know

the right answer and still not do it.

Yeah.

No, I was gonna say, I'm always careful to point

out that nobody will ever be wiser than.

Solomon, because that's what God says.

That God says, nobody, you know, I'm gonna give you wisdom,

and nobody nobody has been more wise.

Or ever will be.

So it's like, wow, what a claim, you know, so

so thousands of years ago, He's like, the billions of

people that come and go on this earth, this is it.

This is the pinnacle. You're looking at it.

You know. You mentioned surround yourself with with people with

wisdom and discernment, you know. And and I'll tell you

a very very quick story. I had a number of

years ago an attempted coup in my leadership from a

young leader that I was trying to develop. Uh, there

was a significant confrontation. He had been doing a bunch

of things behind the scenes to pull away a lot

of the top leaders and the best leaders. It was

all secret. Was his name, I'm not saying at anjec

Yeah yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah, absolutely yeah. So some great

key leaders, people that I love deeply turned on me

very very hard based on his accusations of this confrontation

we had. So we were trying we meet with the elders,

and we're going to have this meeting with these families.

And I had a friend that I've always felt had

some wisdom and discernment. I have friends who go, why

is he your friend? Right right? And I'm always like,

this guy has a wisdom and a discernment that I

don't know that I have. He calls me right before

this gathering and he goes, I've had a few conversations

with these people, nothing has actually been said. I have

a sense and I feel like maybe the Lord is

causing me to discern there's a recording. Be very careful

what you say. So my wife and I pray about it.

We met with a couple of the elders and we

prayed about this. God give us wisdom and discernment this moment.

I help us not to say the wrong things, bring

to remembrance the conversation, help us to be humble. We

go into the meeting. About ten minutes into the meeting,

they start asking very precise questions when I'm talking in

general things because the event happened in the past, right.

So we're about fifteen twenty minutes in and the Lord

just said there is a recording. And I said, let

me pause before I answer that question. Is there a recording?

And if there is, have you heard it? And the

room went dead and they got red in the face.

Nobody want to answer. It was forty five seconds of silence,

and finally the guy who was coming after the heart

had said, h yes, there is a recording I have

heard it. I went, oh, okay, so this is an

entrapment meeting. Right. It pivoted, So my entire board wasn't sure.

Because we trusted those other great leaders. My entire board

immediately came over to my side, yepiate, and it established.

And this was early in my leadership at Heritage Church.

Came over and it was because of my friend who

has this discernment that I don't have. I have discernment,

but not on his level. And he rescued me and

rescued our leadership. And I believe the church in general,

and that's the value of having somebody with the spiritual

gift of wisdom and discernment, you know, in your life.

So I was in pain. So I also have wisdom

and discernment. Right, That's been a firm minum many times.

But I was in pain, and I was a little

fearful in this. I wasn't at my peak performance. But

I was surrounded with people who do have wisdom and discernment.

They could speak it in my life, and I trusted

them in a moment. And then because I had an

awareness maybe there's something out there, then I treaded lightly

and then discovered there was, and it rescued us. And

so there's tremendous wisdom and hanging out with people with

wisdom and then having friends that have discernment and those

kinds of things. And the only way that you can

prove those is by the proof of their life, right right,

And uh so you don't just automatically assume why they

said a smart thing that must be true. What I

see as the trajectory of this guy's life, and at

least my experience with him, is he continues to grow

in wisdom and a discernment and following God, leaning into

his words. And he brought me several scriptures in that

same conversation to say, you know, be strong and courageous

and then also to a soft answer, turns away wrath.

He brought me a few verses that he just felt

like God was telling him in that moment. So he

affirmed his own wisdom and discernment with scripture in my

life and it wound up being true. That's great, Yeah,

that powerful.

Yeah, that's very powerful.

Yeah, well hey let that be Let that be a

listen for all of us, right, need wise people in

your life, wise people in your life, and let's listen

to them even when we don't feel like we understand

it fully.

Just trust, trust in the gift.

Yeah, so all right, well, hey that's our time, so

we will see you next time on the Bible Gush