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Understanding the Spiritual Realm: 1 Kings 22:1-28

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  67. Yeah, I don't know. I only drive GM.

  68. Oh yeah, yeah, I'm driving.

  69. Uh what am I driving?

  70. I'm driving? Pick up Chevy.

  71. Yea, yeah, you're driving a Chevy. Yeah yeah, So for you,

  72. who would have to be on the dashboard in order

  73. to get your attention? I know it's going to be

  74. Zach Efron, but beyond Zach Effron, if they didn't put

  75. Zach Effron on the dashboard, who else would it be?

  76. I just wanted some movie with Zach Effron this morning,

  77. I believe you.

  78. I did.

  79. It was it was.

  80. I would have to go with either Carrie Underwood or

  81. I would go with Shania Twain.

  82. Okay, both of them, both of them singing to you.

  83. Who's a classic?

  84. Oh yeah, both of them singing to you, Hey, check

  85. your angine? Yeah yeah, okay, a little bit.

  86. Of a country day to check you injured?

  87. That's funny. So uh yeah, So you're a country music fan?

  88. I am? Yes?

  89. Okay, yes, Well I lived in Atlanta for ten years

  90. and I drove a pickup truck even though I was

  91. never off road, and listen to country music and wore

  92. flannels wow all the time?

  93. All right, that makes you country boy? Then, well full

  94. blown at least that truck. Look, you drove your grocery

  95. getter pickup truck, right, that's exactly a full wheel drive.

  96. That's exactly you're never had any by the way, grocery

  97. stores and golf golf courses those are that's where you

  98. took that full draft.

  99. I very much compared it to like, have you ever

  100. seen a golf course where a person looked like a

  101. golfer because they had all the equipment, all these but

  102. they're not a real golfer.

  103. That was me with a pickup truck. But I did

  104. love country.

  105. Well I don't. I don't look like a golfer. I

  106. look like a guy who stole some clubs from somebody's

  107. yard and climbed the fence. That's awesome.

  108. Climb the fence not even paid, that's so great.

  109. Okay, well, speaking of country, oh okay, Ahab and Jahasafat

  110. are trying to figure out how to build an alliance

  111. to protect their own countries. Nice, nice spam. Got it?

  112. Is that why you said you like country.

  113. Music or you just well I was asking you that

  114. because I wanted to get to country and just don't

  115. get me. That was plan, that was the transit. That

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  125. It's funny.

  126. Okay, So, speaking of clunky transitions in First Corinthians chapter,

  127. First Kings chapter twenty two, Oh wow, you really? Yeah?

  128. First there, one Kings twenty two.

  129. I didn't think my reading glasses. I forgot them.

  130. I noticed that. Yeah, because yes, last week Chris was

  131. super cool and had some reading glasses.

  132. I tried them out. Yeah yeah, and they were very helpful.

  133. They look good.

  134. I'm just not in the habit of remembering them.

  135. Well, okay, so so it lasted a week.

  136. So now I have to like pull the book away

  137. from me like this.

  138. Okay, so we're going to read this, and I think

  139. it's the entire chapter, isn't it? Yeah?

  140. One through twenty eight?

  141. Yeah, yeah, and this is kind of a big deal.

  142. This whole yeah, this whole chunk here is kind of

  143. a big deal. It's a pivotal moment in the history

  144. of both Israel and quite honestly, Judah. This is kind

  145. of the beginning of the bad part for Judah. Here's

  146. what it says. For three years, there was no war

  147. between Aram and Israel. Then during the third year, King

  148. Jehashaah of Judah went to visit King Ahab of Israel.

  149. During the visit, the King of Israel said to his officials,

  150. do you realize that the town of Raymonth Gilead belongs

  151. to us, and yet we've done nothing to recapture it

  152. from the King of arm. Then he turned to Jehoshaphat

  153. and asked, will you join me in battle recover Raymuth Gilead.

  154. Joshaphat replied to the King of Israel, why of course

  155. you and I ares one. My troops are your troops,

  156. and my horses are your horses. Then Jehoshaphah added, but

  157. first let's find out what the Lord says. So the

  158. King of Israel summoned the prophets, about four h hundred

  159. of them, and asked them, should I go to war

  160. against Raymuth Gilead or should I hold back? They all replied, yes,

  161. go right ahead. The Lord will give the king victory

  162. but Jehashaphah asked, is there not a prophet also of

  163. the Lord here? We should ask him the same question.

  164. The king replied to Joshaphah, there is one more man

  165. who could consult the Lord for us, but I hate him.

  166. He never prophesies anything but trouble for me. His name

  167. is Macaiah, son of Imla. Jehoshaphat replied, that's not the

  168. way kings should talk. Let's hear what he has to say.

  169. So the King of Israel called one of his officials

  170. and said, quick, bring Makaiah son of Imlah. Josh Fat

  171. enjoyed great riches in high esteem, and he made an

  172. alliance with Ahab of Israel.

  173. Are you reading on second chronicles?

  174. Oh? Oh, what did I do?

  175. You have to skip that section and pick up skip.

  176. That section, pick up right here? Yep. Yeah.

  177. But anyway, by the way, that little interruption was brought

  178. to you by the chronological.

  179. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah. This is a chronological Bible. So

  180. these stories are being told both in first kings and

  181. in second chronicle. That's correct. So okay. King Ahab of

  182. Israel and King Jehoshaphat Judah, dressed in their royal robes,

  183. were sitting on thrones at the threshing floor near the

  184. gate of Samaria. All of Ahab's prophets were prophesying there.

  185. In front of them, one of them, Zedekiah, son of

  186. Kana Kanana Kanana kan Annaana Na. I don't know, you

  187. make me read him. This guy Zedekiah, made some iron

  188. horns and proclaimed, this is what the Lord says. With

  189. these horns, you will gore the Aramans to death. All

  190. the other prophets agreed. Yes, they said, go up to

  191. raymuth Gilead and be victorious, for the Lord will give

  192. the king victory. Meanwhile, the messenger went to get Makayah,

  193. said to him, look, all the prophets are promising victory

  194. for the king. Be sure that you agree with them

  195. and promise success. But Makaiah replied, as surely as the

  196. Lord lives, I will say only what the Lord tells

  197. me to say. When Makaiah arrived before the king, a

  198. haveb asked him, Makaiah, should we go to war against

  199. the raymuth Gilead or should we hold back? Makaiah replied sarcastically, yes,

  200. go up and be victorious, for the Lord will give

  201. you the king victory. But the King replied sharply, how

  202. many times must I a man that you speak only

  203. the truth to me when you speak for the Lord.

  204. Then Makaiah told him, in a vision, I saw all

  205. Israel scattered on the mountains like sheep without a shepherd,

  206. And the Lord said, their master has been killed. Send

  207. them home in peace. Didn't I tell you? The King

  208. of Israel, exclaimed the Jehoshaphat. He never prophesied anything but

  209. trouble for me. So good. Then Makaiah continued, listen to

  210. what the Lord says. I saw the Lord sitting on

  211. his throne with all the armies of heaven around him

  212. on his right and on his left. And the Lord said,

  213. who can entice Ahab to go into battle against raymuth

  214. Gilead so he can be killed? There were many suggestions,

  215. and finally a spirit approached the Lord and said, I

  216. can do it. How will you do this, the Lord asked.

  217. The spirit replied, I will go out and inspire all

  218. of Ahab's prophets to speak lies. You will succeed, said

  219. the Lord, Go ahead and do it. So, you see,

  220. the Lord has put a lying spirit in the mouths

  221. of all your prophets for the Lord has pronounced your doom.

  222. Then Zedekiah, son of Kananaa, cannot cannot anna.

  223. It's so wild by the way, just for fun, it's

  224. k e n aa nah.

  225. Yeah, and you're supposed to say the vowels. All of

  226. them cannot anna. I think you got it now, Yeah,

  227. I think so. Uh. Anyways, Zedekiah walked up to Makaiah

  228. and slapped him across the face. Since when did the

  229. spirit of the Lord leave me to speak to you,

  230. he demanded. Makiah replied, you will find out soon enough,

  231. when you're trying to hide in some secret room. Arrest him,

  232. the King of Israel ordered. Take him back to Ammon,

  233. the governor of the city, and to my son joe Ash.

  234. Give them this order from the king. Put this man

  235. in prison and feed him nothing but bread and water

  236. until I returned safely from the battle. But Makiah replied,

  237. if you return safe, he'll mean that the Lord has

  238. not spoken through me. Then he added to those standing around,

  239. everyone marked my words.

  240. Yeah, well there you go, Yeah, there you go. And

  241. uh so, what happens here's the question.

  242. What happens when they battle?

  243. We can't tell you it's coming, dun dun dum.

  244. It is a cliffhanger.

  245. I wonder considering, let me see, four hundred false prophets

  246. said go ahead and fight, You're going to win, right,

  247. and a prophet from God said, don't go. Ahab's going

  248. to die. So I wondered, what's going to happen? Right,

  249. it's a cliffhanger. Yeah, right, but I don't want to

  250. ruin it. Uh.

  251. Not only did the did the one prophet say you're

  252. going to die, but there was the one prophet said

  253. that there was a lying spirit put in the four

  254. hundred prophets.

  255. That's the craziest part of this whole story, right, Yeah,

  256. you want to start at the beginning, yeah, and and

  257. then we'll get to that part. Okay, okay, sure.

  258. So King Ahab of all of Israel and King Jehasaphat

  259. of Judah, they were just in the rower ropes. So

  260. Jahasaphat and Ahab they're the two kings currently right.

  261. Now king of northern Israel. Right. The ten tribes or

  262. the twelve tribes have separated. Yes, so the ten are

  263. what's called Israel. Judah and Benjamin are what we would

  264. call Judah, and they make up the big chunk of

  265. the southern half, and then the northern half of Israel

  266. is the other ten. So Jehashaphat is leading Judah. Ahab,

  267. the wicked king is leading northern Israel.

  268. So and so the four hundred prophets gave a false

  269. vision to who which king.

  270. To Ahab? Right, Yeah, so Jehashaphat is a pretty good guy.

  271. He's a pretty good king. But this begins really bad news.

  272. You know, I started reading. It's terrible. I wish, I

  273. wish we would have read both. Maybe we should have.

  274. Here the second Chronicles eighteen mentions that Jehoshaphat gave Ahab

  275. or had his son marry Ahab's daughter Athalia, and so

  276. they go into a partnership. And this is why Jehoshaphaht says, oh, yeah,

  277. we're like great friends, my soldiers, your soldiers, whatever we

  278. need to do, because we're family now. But this is

  279. a terrible move because God is always warning the people

  280. of Israel do not marry people who follow false gods.

  281. But for political expediency, very similar to his grandfather Solomon,

  282. he decides, you know what, I'm going to marry off

  283. my son to you know, the daughter of Ahab, and Jezebel.

  284. And this begins when Jehoshaphat's son becomes king. The people

  285. of Judah begin worshiping false gods. So they had this

  286. long run of not worshiping false gods, right, but this

  287. right here making an alliance. This is why the Bible says.

  288. I had a conversation with a young man here recently

  289. about starting business U and he was and was acting advice,

  290. and I said, you know, the main thing I would

  291. say is the Bible says, don't be unequally yoked with unbelievers. Right,

  292. Their values and your values won't be the same. Their

  293. priorities and your priorities won't be the same. And that's

  294. what he does here. This is what Jehoshaphat does, is

  295. he hooks his wagon to Ahab and Ahab and Ahabs

  296. people were wicked people following false gods. And eventually you

  297. either are right now or soon shall be just like

  298. the crowd you run with. And that's what happens, right right.

  299. So anyways, every time you say that phrase, I want

  300. to say, thanks dad.

  301. Yeah that's my dad. So but it's true. Yeah, it's truemorable,

  302. sure is.

  303. It's it's almost always true.

  304. And what I was going to say, is you know

  305. the unequally yoked you know commandment the warning comes from

  306. Jesus talking about, you know, being lined up with a

  307. big piece of wood that you know, straps together oxen

  308. or horse, and you know you have to do that

  309. with the same strength through else the carriage to go

  310. in circles or the plow.

  311. And let me ask you this question.

  312. Paula firms it yes, and the Old Testament yes.

  313. And so here's my question for you is how many

  314. as a pastor for thirty something years, how many people

  315. have you had a conversation with where they didn't pay

  316. attention to the being unequally yoke thing? They ended up

  317. getting married and now later on it causes the number

  318. one problem in the marriage.

  319. Oh yeah, a huge number of people, not only a marriage,

  320. in business and in so many different alliances. But yeah,

  321. it rarely works out, Yeah, very very rarely works out.

  322. So yeah, and I would say that it's really important

  323. to take that seriously before you even enter into a relationship.

  324. I remember my daughter who's now married, you know, and

  325. she's been married for you know, five years, but I

  326. remember she had come.

  327. To us since she.

  328. Had told us that she was being asked out on dates.

  329. And you know, she's a very pretty girl. You know,

  330. at the time, she was like a senior in high school.

  331. And and she really didn't she's not listening. What do

  332. you mean because you said she was pretty at the time.

  333. That's what you just said.

  334. She's still pretty.

  335. Oh okay, But.

  336. I'm trying to say at the time of this story,

  337. Oh okay, so she's a pretty girl at.

  338. The time, she was a senior in high school.

  339. That's it was comma, Oh, I see, So are you

  340. saying that there was a time when she was not

  341. pretty but at this time she was pretty.

  342. No, she's a pretty girl period.

  343. Okay, okay, okay, time I'm trying to cause trouble. I'm

  344. trying to protect you.

  345. At the time, she was a senior in high school. Yes,

  346. And she comes to us and she goes, hey, I

  347. was just asked out by babblah blah. And she tells

  348. us and it was actually like somebody that we knew

  349. that was a good looking guy, and he was a

  350. sharp guy and everything else, and and my.

  351. Daughter says, but no, I'm not going to do it.

  352. He said, why And she.

  353. Says, well, because we're we don't have the same values,

  354. and she was referring to spiritual values, and she was

  355. referring to other things as well.

  356. And then somebody had said one of her friends just

  357. go out and date what it'll hurt. And then my

  358. daughter said, but what's the point. What's the point?

  359. And then she also same daughter I also modeled, she

  360. had a really good friend across the street that lived

  361. across the street from us, and her friend would come

  362. over and her friend was actually not a good influence whatsoever.

  363. And they were friends all the way throughout junior high school.

  364. And then somewhere right around her high school years, my

  365. daughter said, I think I'm going to have to start

  366. distancing myself from what's her name across the street. And

  367. we said why, and she said, well, she's just really

  368. not a good influence. And as parents, we would have

  369. never have known that. And we were like, oh, what

  370. do you mean, and she said, yeah, she's trying. You know,

  371. this is what she wants to do all the time,

  372. and it's really bad news. And so she just distanced

  373. herself and then gave her a speech and said, I

  374. just think that we're maybe interested in different things and

  375. we have different values, and I just don't want to

  376. do these things, and I think that we're just different people.

  377. And that family got so mad that her brother found

  378. out and started to vandalize her house. And it was

  379. a big deal, And it was all because my daughter

  380. demonstrated that she just she's like, I'm only going to

  381. align myself with people who I want to be like

  382. that have my values, that are spiritually the same, you know,

  383. in the same boat.

  384. And she didn't even go out on a date until

  385. that actually happened.

  386. That wild. Yes, it is crazy, it's wonderful, but it's true. Yes, right,

  387. God's principles are true. It turns out we live God's way.

  388. It works out God's way, right, right. So then we

  389. have this whole thing where you know, a have he's

  390. such a powder. Oh, I don't want to talk to Makaia.

  391. He only ever gives me bad news, right right, And

  392. Jehoshaphat goes, what kind of king are you? In your whine?

  393. Is that how king's talk? Right?

  394. So as if God's words only supposed to tell you

  395. what you.

  396. Want to hear. Yeah, Well, Jehoshaphat had this dignity about him.

  397. He was very prosperous. Ahab's country wasn't so prosperous, so

  398. there were all these issues. But Jehoshaphat just acts like

  399. a king. Right, he makes a bad decision here making

  400. this alliance, but he behaves like a king. And Ahab

  401. always is whiny. And this is why Jezbell had such

  402. an inordinate influence on the nation of Israel and worshiping

  403. these false gods. But again, even after Elijah had wiped

  404. out eight hundred and fifty prophets of bail and a

  405. sha Ahab can quickly find four hundred more right, right,

  406. And it's because of the way that they appointed prophets

  407. and stuff like that. But then Makaiah comes and he's like,

  408. first he you know, sarcastically goes, yeah, sure, go ahead

  409. and fight. You're gonna win whatever, right, yeah, because I'm

  410. telling you what you want to hear. And then aheb

  411. knows he's not telling the truth.

  412. Well, he obviously said it sarcastically, right, because he said,

  413. how many times you have to tell you?

  414. Give me the truth?

  415. Right? So then Makaiah goes, well, let me just tell

  416. you this vision I saw, and this is what this is.

  417. We had wanted to see it. We'll talk about at

  418. the beginning. It's just astounding. He's saying, I saw God

  419. sitting around on his throne and different angels and spirits

  420. were coming to him, and God was like, oh, well,

  421. how are we going to get Ahab to go die?

  422. He's having like a planning session. It's like a war council,

  423. Isn't it bizarre? That's not how we think of how God.

  424. Works, right, Yeah, I mean, well it's very confusing, to

  425. be honest, you know, because it's it seems like God

  426. is planning Aheb's demise.

  427. Well, it's exactly what he's doing.

  428. Yeah, And so it's like, why would God plan a demise?

  429. But then again he allowed Aeb to rule for.

  430. Twenty one years.

  431. Well, because God's the king of the kings, right right,

  432. that's why, and we got to get rid of him. Well,

  433. the only way to get rid of a king is,

  434. you know, to have him be deposed, and you know

  435. that's wipe him mountain. And by the way, it had

  436. already been prophesied that he was going to be killed,

  437. right Yeah, yeah, so God's just worked that out. But yeah,

  438. he says, who can entice Ahab to go into batt

  439. against raymonth Gilead? So he can be killed. Ray Mouth

  440. Gilead is in what is modern day Jordan. Now, if

  441. you want to know, aram is Uh was centered around Damascus,

  442. which was in Syria. So the the Arameans had come

  443. down and that Raymonth Gilead had been a part of Israel,

  444. and the the air Maans had come and defeated that

  445. taken that area. Now Ahab wants it back, right, which

  446. is reasonable, that's not unreasonable. But God decided, okay, this

  447. is We're done with af Aheb was never going to

  448. turn around. Let's let's get rid of him. And so

  449. he pulls it together. But you know, the Book of

  450. Job talks about the angels, the sons of God, the

  451. angels of God coming before the throne God consulting with them.

  452. In the Book of Daniel, the Daniel prays for a month,

  453. almost a month. Finally when the angel shows up. He says, hey, listen,

  454. God answered your prayer on the first day and sent me.

  455. But I've been fighting against the Prince of Persia, some

  456. demon for all this time. And then God had to

  457. finally send Michael to archangel to defeat the prince so

  458. that I could come and bring you this message. So

  459. how we think God works and those three hints, it's

  460. only three hints in the Bible about the fact that

  461. God works through angels. This is this is one of

  462. those where God is consulting, going okay, what are we

  463. gonna do. We're gonna wipe out ahab I know that.

  464. So one of the one of the the spirits goes, well,

  465. I'll just plan a lie in the minds of the

  466. four hundreds prophets. He's like, okay, yeah, isn't that amazing?

  467. Hey, those are great cross references.

  468. By the way, I'm not sure I quite ever thought

  469. of it that way, but yeah, that's that's great.

  470. God's consulting angels.

  471. For well, he uses angels to do his bidding for sure,

  472. Like we always think zap and it's done, right, But God,

  473. that's the function of the angels is to do God's bidding.

  474. And so in this situation, he's like, all right, you go, well.

  475. I mean, all the way through the two angels show

  476. up with God's messages, right, you know, do his battles

  477. at times, right, right, So yeah, it's it's whatever God.

  478. Wills, and I'm gonna we're gonna have some astute Bible

  479. student who's gonna say this was a lying spirit, right,

  480. God's talking to spirits of some kind. I am, my

  481. personal reference, don't have any concept of spirits apart from

  482. angels and demons, right, and I don't believe at this moment,

  483. I'm not sure. I think he's talking to demons here,

  484. So that's all. But if you think it's a demon,

  485. that's fine. We don't know of any other spirits. There's

  486. the Holy Spirit, but that's not this one. Right, There's angels,

  487. there's demons, there's the human spirit. Those are the right,

  488. Those are the spirits that we know of that are

  489. mentioned in the Bible. So I'm not sure what this is,

  490. but I think it's probably some kind of an angel,

  491. just like God had the Death Angel, right, and those

  492. kinds of things. But yeah, yeah, so that's kind of

  493. a surprise to people to find out that that's how

  494. God functions.

  495. Yeah, it's definitely the wildest part of the story.

  496. Yeah yeah, sure, really amazing.

  497. All right, Well, hey, we're gonna find out what happens,

  498. so stay tuned and hopefully we'll see you next time

  499. on the Bible guys.

  500. Mhm