Sermon
The Importance of Integrity and Honesty in God’s Eyes | Lessons From Amos 8:1-14
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little window before she falls asleep. At publicly publishing time,
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Maya's husband had quietly pulled his wife's phone out of
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her hand as she fell asleep, quickly canceling her order
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for a jumbo ant farm.
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That is so funny, so funny. Yeah, that's really good.
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I told my wife one time, I said, she told
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me she got some stuff. We've had a run since
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we moved into our new house where the Amazon guy
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comes like every day.
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Yeah, every day.
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That's that's me, every day, no matter what. Yeah, and
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so I'm not kidding. Yeah, no, I'm not kidding. Yeah,
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it's it's sometimes five six packages this day.
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Part of your family.
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What's that?
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Is the Amazon guy part of your family?
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Oh yeah, yeah yeah yeah. We just them, we know them.
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Backyard barbecue. Yeah yeah. So uh.
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I told my wife, I said, why do we keep
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it on these packages? Getting some really good after Christmas sales,
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really good. We're saving a lot of money, I said,
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I can't afford to save this much money, right right right.
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So, by the way, let me let me be clear.
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My wife doesn't order extravagant things. She orders like deodorant
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or you know what, I mean, or just.
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Just saves a trip to the store, that's right.
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Like paper towels come in Amazon packages, right, So like
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you know, I don't want people to misinterpret like she's
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not a shopper, like like like hey, I bought this
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diamond ring and like this thing that this woman has
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in the ad of bonds and things that is not her.
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She just swipes to do her grocery shopping.
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A lot of time, I saw a light sweat start
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breaking out on your brow after you mentioned that five
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packages a day come to your house, and you thought,
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I need to make sure everybody knows my wife's not
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wasting money.
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Oh no, no, no, no, she doesn't. She doesn't do that.
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And by the way, she'll even tell me, because I'll
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come home and I will literally complain and I'll go,
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there's five packages, and then she'll open them up and
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she's like, paper towels, really, And I said, why do
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you buy paper towels that? Why don't just grab my
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Kroger And she says, believe it or not, it's cheaper.
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And by the way, that is incredibly hard to believe
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it's cheaper. So how is that even possible that it's cheaper?
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And it's because Amazon is a conglomerate, right, So it's
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like it's like, that's how big Amazon is where somehow
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you can buy a regular item through Amazon and have it.
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By the way, delivered to your house the next day
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or that day or that day, and somehow you save
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forty cents.
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Yeah.
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Figure, how was AIDM possible?
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I don't know.
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Yeah, so it's pretty it's pretty crazy.
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I saw that packaging.
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We're cutting down a million trees so we can save
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forty cents.
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But that's okay, right right, It's not good for the world.
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But you know, I had a guy who worked at
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our church.
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His name was Carl and he was the communications director
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and he's in charge of all printing, and people all
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used to, you know, approach him about like all the
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paper that he's wasting, you know, all the trees that
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he's cutting down. And he used to say, you know
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that trees are replaceable product.
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Yeah, you see, to plant more trees.
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He's like you know that, people, He goes, We're not
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going to run out of trees. He's like, there's no
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way that we can run out of trees. He says,
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if you think about how many sheets of paper come.
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From a tree. He's like, there's no danger in running
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out of trees.
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We just have to Where it gets bad is where
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we're burning them, and then we're not replanting, right, right,
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right right, So anyways, talking about planting, Oh, today Amos
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has a vision of ripe.
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Fruit which is planted on a tree.
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Well, trees get planted and then rose trees.
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Yeah, yeah, well you should have said speaking of trees.
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Speaking of trees, that's what you should speaking of trees. Yes,
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you almost had it, almost, but.
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You should plant it.
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Yeah, yeah, speaking of planting and trees. And try it again,
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speaking of planting trees.
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There it is there you go. Yes, that's terrible. So
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we are in the book of Amos.
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Yes, everybody's famous Amos, Yes, his favorite book.
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And this is a vision another vision, say God has
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given only this is a vision of ripe fruit.
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And uh. And apparently we're walking through every bit.
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Of Amos, every bit, every bit, every bit.
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But that's okay.
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Yeah, Hey, I'm going to guess most of our listeners
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have never read every bit of Amos.
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Well, I would say that's true. Think about it.
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I think most Christians don't spend a ton of time
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in Amos.
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That's correct.
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And by the way, I'm a Christian and I'm a
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pastor for decades, and it's I have to confess, it's
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been a while since I've read through the book of Amos.
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Well, here we are.
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Every verse good. But I have done it before. Yes,
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but you but you implied that I have not.
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I did not. I did not you joke. I just said,
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you joke. I have a few favorite verses in the books.
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Well, I read it, Chrish.
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Yeah, yeah, it's amazing how much of the Bible you
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know when you read it, right, Okay, Amos Chapter eight,
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Verse one says, then the Sovereign Lord showed me another vision.
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In it, I saw a basket filled with ripe fruit.
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What do you see, Amos, he asked, I replied, a
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basket full of ripe fruit. Then the Lord said, like
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this fruit Israel is ripe for punishment. I will not
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delay their punishment again. And that day the singing and
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the temple will turn to whaling. Dead bodies will be
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scattered everywhere. They will be carried off of the city
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in silence, out of the city in silence. I the
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Sovereign Lord, have spoken. Listen to this, you who rob
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the poor and trample down the needy. You can't wait
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for the Sabbath day to be over and the religious
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festivals to end so you can get back to cheating
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the helpless. You measure out grain with dishonest measures and
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cheat the buyer with discount or dishonest scales. You mix
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the grain you sell with chaff swept from the floor.
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Then you enslave poor people for one piece of silver
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or a pair of sandals. Now the Lord has sworn
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his oath by his own name, the Pride of Israel.
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I will never forget the wicked things you've done. The
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earth will tremble for your deeds, and everyone will mourn.
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The ground will rise like the Nile river at flood time.
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It'll heave up and then sink again. And that day,
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says the Sovereign Lord, I will make the sun go
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down at noon and darken the earth while it is
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stilled day. And I'll turn your celebrations into times of morning,
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and you're singing into weeping. You will wear funeral clothes
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and shave your head to show your sorrow, as if
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your only son had died. How very bitter that day
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will be. The time is surely coming says the sovereign Lord.
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When I will send a famine on the land, not
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a famine of bread or water, but of hearing the
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words of the Lord, people will stagger from sea to sea,
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and wander from.
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Border to border, searching for the word of the Lord.
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But they will not find it. Beautiful girls and strong
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men will grow faint in that day, thirsting for the
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Lord's word. Those who swear by the shameful idols of Samaria,
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who take odes in the name of the God of
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Dan and make bows in the name of the God
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of Beersheba, they will all fall down, never to rise again.
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Is that it?
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Yeah, that's it for sure. Wow, So there you go.
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Well, there it is another vision and a very strong warning,
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and some of the same some of the same references, right,
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like enslaved people for one piece of silver or a
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pair of sandals. Right, that's been mentioned before, Cheating the
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buyer with dishonest scales, that's been mentioned before, religious festivals,
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cheating the helpless, dishonest measures.
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So again just a reiteration. Right.
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There's a note in our Life Application Study Bible on
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these verses, and it says these merchants were keeping the
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religious festivals, but not with the right spirit. They couldn't
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wait for the holy days and Sabbaths to be over
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so they can go back to making money. Their real
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interest was enriching themselves, even if that mean cheating. And
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then parenthesis says short changing the quantity while boosting the
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price or even selling chaff as wheat.
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Wow.
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And by the way, chaff is the bad part of wheat,
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right yeah, uh, the unusable part. Do you take a
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day to rest and worship God at least one day
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a week or is it making Is making money more
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important to you? There's a sermon? Is making money more
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important to you than anything else? When you give your
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time to God?
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Is your heart and worship or is your only religion
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only affront for an to go practices? So that's small
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writing right there. I'm starting to need my glasses.
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You know.
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The uh that sermon right there is? Is that? Uh uh?
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You know? The Sabbath day is included in that little sermon?
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Right?
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So? Do you remember there was a song a long
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time ago by Rascal Flats where where it talked about
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Sunday used to be a day of rest?
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Do you remember.
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You don't remember the song?
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I see maybe baby sitting on the poet drinking and
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ie cold cher Kaluk where everything is.
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Black and white, da dada.
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Anyway, uh so he so he's talking about the good
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old days, that's what he's saying. And in that song
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he says, Sunday used to be a day of rest
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and now it's now it's a day.
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Of making more money.
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And it's like, and.
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I thought that was so interesting that Rascal Flats is
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talking about the good old days and he had What
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he's really doing is is just sort of including right
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here this this passage that Sunday. People used to respect Sunday.
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They used to say, nope, we're not going to make
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Sunday a day of working. Sunday's a day of rest.
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And even in the olden days in our lifetime, right,
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we've seen it. Are in our fathers probably grew up
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with the mentality that nobody's going.
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To work on Sunday, and yet now they do. Yeah,
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it's interesting.
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Yeah, well, if you look at it, I think that
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there's you knows as you go through all these judgments,
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obviously he's already been frustrated with the fact that you know,
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they they're selling slaves and there they're abusing the poor
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and all these things. So, like you said, he's covered
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these things. But I think God drives home. When God
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repeats a thing, it's because he's trying to drive home
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what a big deal it is. Right, So if he
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repeats himself, he's not just stuttering. Right, It's not like, oh,
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did I did say this or not? Well, let me
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say it again?
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Right?
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Did I say that last service?
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Yeah?
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Yeah, exactly. So he's saying it on purpose. And when
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you look at all of these things, how how bad
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this judgment is? Right, there's going to be dead bodies
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scattered everywhere. You're going to be carried out of the
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city in silence. You're going to be hauled away. The
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punishment's coming.
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I'm not going to delay.
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So really, the singing is gonna stop and it's just
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going to be dead bodies. That that's pretty horrific description, right, Sure,
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then you read and find out why because you said
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you were selling twelve ounces and you only sold eleven.
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You said you said you were going to loan at
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a good interest rate, and you loaned an abusive interest rate.
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You said you were selling one thing, but you you know,
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you watered down the product right. That's and you're skipping
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the Sabbath day. So we think God brings judgment for
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big stuff, murder, adultery.
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Right.
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God's saying, if you claim you're selling twelve ounces, sell
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twelve ounces, right, or you're ripping off the poor, right,
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And I hate that, hate it, yeah, he loads it.
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Right. If if you're if you're saying that you're going.
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To uh sell a specific product, sell that product. God
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hates dishonesty, and he's saying, there's going to be dead
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bodies everywhere over your bad business practices. Yeah right, So
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earlier he goes, I'm so sick of you're fake worship.
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So don't you.
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Understand Sunday and Monday are the same to God? Right, God,
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God expects the guy you're pretending to be on Sunday
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to be the real guy you are on Monday. That's
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that's what he's expecting. And he's not talking to religious
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leaders here. He's talking to businessmen and business women, that's
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what he's talking to. And he's using a shepherd and
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a farmer to come and talk to him about it.
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These are everyday normal people. This isn't Saint Amos, This
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isn't Saint Chris Sarba.
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Right, Sat, Jeff Forest.
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That's right.
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This is this is a normal guy talking to business
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people about how God views everyday life.
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Yeah, that's good.
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And when he says cheat the buyer with just on
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a scales, you're talking about the scales of justice where
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one thing's supposed to weigh exactly the other.
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You know, you you weigh out.
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Uh, not the scales justice. These are business skills.
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Oh well, something like the skills.
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Yeah, we're going to use the yeah, yeah.
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Something something similar, right, They weren't exactly the scales of justice,
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but yeah, a similar mechanism where they would have it would.
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Be balanced on the top and then you'd have a
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specific weight on one side worth of value, that's right,
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and then you put the grain or the the metal
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or whatever you're buying on the other side and way, yeah.
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Yeah whatever. Yeah.
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And then and then they would do that, they would
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they would cheat it by removing right, and they would
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say it's.
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A certain round, but it's really not.
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So what they would do is they would so let's
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say you have we're going to buy it by the ounce,
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and we would have weights on the one side that
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would be one ounce, you know, five ounces ten ounces.
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So if it was something I'm weighing to where I'm
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going to have to pay you and I'm going controlling,
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sometimes I would would drill out the inside, hollow out
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and make it lighter by a few ounces, right, so
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that way i'd pay less.
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But if it was.
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From my advantage where I'm charging you, then i would
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have a different set of fake weights, where I'd drill
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it out and put lead inside and make it just
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a little heavier. So then that way I'm able to
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charge you more all you bought. You know, you bought night.
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So you ever go to the butcher shop. Have you
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ever noticed you go to the butcher shop, say hey,
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I need three pounds of salmon, and they give you
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three point five pounds of salmon?
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Right, right? That's what? Is that enough?
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And I always go, yeah, that's fine. But that's kind
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of the idea was what you think you're buying versus
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what they actually sell you are different things, right, And
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I'm not saying that's a dishonest thing because I'm letting
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it happen in that moment. But what they were doing
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is they were sneaking. They were always ripping everybody off.
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At least the butcher's calling it for what it is.
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Pounds that good.
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Yeah, yeah, but that's maybe the closest thing that anybody
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our listeners have had to this, right. But what they
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were doing was they were skiwing. Have two sets of
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weights they'd have, they'd have and they'd be.
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Either heavier or live.
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It's like loaded dice, we're paying what yeah? Right, So so.
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You know the the old trick of you know, loaded
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dice means no matter what you do, it's always going
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to roll a seven or whatever it is, right, So yeah,
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it's and.
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By the way, loaded dice is also in the Bible,
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loaded dice.
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Right.
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So this is this idea of being people of integrity
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all the time, giving, giving the product that you say
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you're giving, giving the the service that you're claiming, your
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serving those of you that have the ability to build.
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Maybe you're a CPA or an attorney or something. If
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you charge for half an hour, you better to have
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done a half hours worth of work. Right in God's
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mind or judgment's coming, that's kind of his attitude about it.
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Right.
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If you're if you're charging or you're billing right now,
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you know there's all this auditing happening in our federal government,
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right with Doge and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, sure,
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I'm not passing judgment one way or the other on
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whether or not that's all a great idea. But the
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federal government and by the way, the state to Michigan,
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they don't get audited, right, So so all of a sudden,
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they're being audited now and they're finding out there's billions
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of dollars worth of waste, dishonest decisions, yep, bad waste
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or horrifically bad management. Right, So it's dishonesty or bad management.
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Either way, it's time to fix it, right, Billions and
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billions of dollars of this stuff. That kind of stuff
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makes God sick when there's people who go, oh, well,
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it's just you know, tax money, it's just whatever.
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God's like, No, you be faithful.
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It's expected of a man who's a steward to be
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found faithful. That's what God says, It's required of them.
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And so this unfaithfulness with regard to how we do
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our business, God says, the singing in my temple is
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going to stop, and it's going to be dead bodies
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everywhere if they don't get this turned around. So we
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think wink wink is just how It's just how business
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gets done. There's a little bit for you, a little
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bit for me, a little bit for you, a little
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bit for me, right, and that's how business is done.
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God goes Nope, that's not how it does Not my people.
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If that's the way the world does it, that's the
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way the world does it, But not my people. Be
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people of integrity. And I think that there's an opportunity
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in our society today for businessmen and women to stand
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out by celebrating the fact by being people of integrity,
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by giving better service than what you're claiming, by by
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always going above and beyond, and you will build a
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great group of loyal customers. You know, my dad owned
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a company. You own a refrigeration company. And there's a
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lot of scamming in the refrigerator refrigeration world. The reason
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is you don't know anything about it at all, right, nothing,
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You don't know anything. So we can come in and
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maybe it's just a timer that we need, but we
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can tell you. You know, it cost you forty bucks
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get the timer fixed or something. Or there's a little
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heater in there to defrost stuff. But we'll go oh man,
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you need a new compressor. New compressor can cost you
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eleven hundred bucks, right and your thing, and grocery store
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owners and restaurant owners go, it's costing me money to
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have it be broken, and go ahead.
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And so there's all kinds.
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Of scam artists in the refrigeration world. So my dad decided,
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I'm going to go the other way. So he all
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of his advertisements honesty and integrity or motto, and Forster's
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Refrigeration became really famous all throughout the thumb that hey,
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you can trust Glenn Forster, and my dad on so
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many occasions would go in, you know, it's hard, you're diagnosing.
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It's like being a doctor something else. Diagnose on the thing,
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fix it, you think, and then it doesn't work. The
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whole industry would just come back in and go, oh,
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you know what, we fix this, and that pointed out
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the fact that this other thing's broken.
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You need to fix this too.
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But there's times when my dad had fixed the thing
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and then realized, oh he made a mistake, that wasn't
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the problem. And my dad would go back and fix
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the problem for free, and he would bring the thing
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and say, I thought it was this, so I replaced it.
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Charge you two hundred bucks for this, But the reality
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was it was this other thing, and I fixed it
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for free and would bring the other thing that we
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didn't realize was broken, bring that to the guy and
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give it to him. And my dad would eat five
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hundred dollars or four hundred dollars, one thousand dollars. Sometimes
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he'd eat it, but he would demonstrate to that owner, hey,
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I'm not going to charge you. I'm going to undercharge,
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and I overcharge you, or if I realize I make
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a mistake, I'm going to make it completely right. You
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will always be whole. And that's the word that got out.
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And next thing, you know, my dad began to dominate
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all those restaurants and gas stations and all that stuff
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because everybody knew my dad could work eighty hours a
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week if he wanted to do. Because everybody knew if
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Glenn Forster said it's yes, it's yes. If Glenn Forster
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says it's no, it's no right, and that's God honors that.
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That's the that's what God says, I promise I'll honor
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you for doing that. How many times should the Bible
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does he say that Book of Proverbs talks about honest weights.
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God blesses honest weights, but in this one he says,
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dead bodies is gonna be everywhere. So you think that,
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you know, you're shooting a move in your business. Isn't
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that big of a deal. You know, at least you're
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not cheating on your wife. God goes, Yeah, there's gonna
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be dead bodies everywhere, right right, Some integrity matter, I
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think is the message of this of this passage.
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Yeah, and that's not to say that, you know, if
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you're a businessman listening to this right now and that
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you're doing a bad business practice, that's not that doesn't
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translate into you're going to wake up tomorrow and your
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family is going to be dead in your bed.
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Yeah, well you have you have time to turn around. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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you go they have thirty years to turn this aroun.
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Yeah yeah, yeah, it's it's it's a it's a it's
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more of a statement about, uh.
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God, judgment will come. That's not going to get away
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with it.
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That's how well I was going to say, Uh, it's
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it's definitely a look into how God feels about those things.
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And and so we think it's not a big deal.
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And yet God says it's so strong of a deal.
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God hates sin so much that he is willing to
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call them out on it, and then judgment's going to come.
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And this was a prophesied specific for Israel.
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I just don't want people thinking that their dead bodies
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are going to literally be in their beds.
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But I could. I can imagine God going, I'm going
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to ruin your business. You keep this up.
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That's what it's saying.
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If you claiming to be, if you're claiming to be
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a godly person, but you're you're shooting a move like this.
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Oh yeah, yeah, I'm going to ruin your business.
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That's my right. That's my point. That's metaphors that have
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to be dead by Yeah, that's all I'm saying.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, so yeah, that's great. So so yeah.
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I think that there's several sermons in here. And by
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the way, let me say one more thing I had
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I had not remembered, although I've read it before, but
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I've not remembered that it says, now the Lord has
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sworn this oath by his own name, the pride of Israel.
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Isn't it great?
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I did not remember that that was one of his names.
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So God the Father has many names referred to in
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the Bible, and and by the way, that's its own
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Bible study, isn't it. So there's how many names do
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you think I've seen these on posters before?
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There's probably what probably over one hundred, maybe two hundred something.
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I should know that I've known it. I just don't
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remember what the number.
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Yeah, but I think I think it's definitely dozens and
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dozens and dozens, right, I mean, if it's not a hundred,
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it's very close. But there's there's different names that God
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has for himself, and then there's also a lot of
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different names that the son Jesus has for himself. He's
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known as several different names, not nearly as many as
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as God of the Old Testament, God the Father. But
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but it's interesting how each name carries with it sort
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of like a different attribute, right, And so it sort
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of sort of magnifies the different attributes of God.
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And in this and in this case.
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He says the pride of Israel, and so think about
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the significance of that. So if God is the pride
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of Israel, then what he's really highlighting here is he's
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highlighting he's not very proud, right and that, and that
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God is not you know.
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That they're not.
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Respecting his name right right, because if he's the pride
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of Israel, they're dishonoring who the pride of Israel is.
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Because back then, you know, Israel was definitely known to
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be the people who are worshiping the One True God,
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and all the way throughout the Old Testament, people associated
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those people with the One True God. And so the
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more that they reflected his attributes and you know, behaved
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and everything else, and then God would have great victories.
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I mean, sometimes people would fear the name of Israel.
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Of Israel came, the people would literally just tremble because
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they're like, oh, I've heard about these people. This is
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the God who shows up, this is the God of
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great miracles. And so therefore God could revel in the
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fact that he's the pride of Israel. But in this
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particular case, when Israel is dishonoring God.
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So I just think it's.
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Very interesting how God chooses to call himself by this
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particular name, the Pride of Israel, because what he's really
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saying is it's a great disrespect, it's a great dishonor
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it's a great blasphemy.
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He's kind of reminding them.
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I used to be right the focus of your world, right,
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I used to be the pride.
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Yeah.
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Like like like my grandson Rowan thinks his dad Jonathan
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is the toughest guy in the world. Right, Jonathan kind
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of is the center of Rowan's universe right now, right,
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And and you know, Jonathan is the pride of Rowan.
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It is kind of it's that thing. And then he said,
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remember when it used to be that way, and it's
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not that way anymore.
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Awesome.
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Well, hey, that is definitely our time. So we will
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see you hopefully tomorrow on the Bible guys. H