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Are You Worshipping God the Right Way? A Study of Ahaz and the Temple | 2 Kings 16:10-18

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  63. Yeah, that is so funny.

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  69. wisdom laughs in real life talk. You love the word

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  73. Guys, that's all. That's all. And then it's the same chorus.

  74. Oh that's so funny, Chris, that might be my favorite one,

  75. so fun Oh yeah, yeah, that's that's funny.

  76. Okay, it's such a song.

  77. Well, and you got into it too, and that that

  78. helped me a little bit.

  79. I got you there.

  80. Yeah, I appreciate that, you know, I like I like

  81. the tunes that make you laugh, you know, yeah, I

  82. like the tunes that make you laugh.

  83. But that one made me laugh.

  84. But you know, it's probably not going to make us

  85. laugh today. What this passage in Second King chapter sixteen.

  86. Where as closes the temple that's not funny and.

  87. Builds an altar of a whole what is it? A

  88. whole statue?

  89. Yeah, it's terrible, like what I was looking for.

  90. It's like an idolatry altar, right, yeah, yeah, that that

  91. doesn't make us laugh, does it.

  92. No, it's not funny at all. So there's the transition's terrible. Yeah,

  93. we're always always working for the worst possible transition. What

  94. is the page seven ninety eight, seven ninety eight okay, okay,

  95. so god, we were flipping back and forth kind of

  96. picking up where the prophets are at interjecting into the

  97. middle of First and Second King chronicles. Yeah, yeah, that

  98. was just a spot where it was referencing this judgment

  99. that was coming. Right now, Judah goes and does these

  100. bad things and then or I'm sorry, King a Has

  101. goes and does these bad things, and then that judgment

  102. is going to come after this. So that's what happened.

  103. Yeah, and he has is king in Judah.

  104. So isn't he?

  105. Yes, I believe so, yeah, that's what I believe too.

  106. Yeah, he's a bad guy. So here we go.

  107. Yep.

  108. In Second King, chapter sixteen, verse ten, it says, right, yeah,

  109. King a Has then went to Damascus to meet with

  110. King Tilgath Polizer of Assyria. Oh yeah, yeah yeah, one

  111. of my favorite names. We almost named our son.

  112. That between Johnny or.

  113. While he was there, he took special note of the altar,

  114. and then he sent a model of the altar to

  115. Uriah the priest, along with his design and full detail.

  116. Uriah followed the king's instructions and built an altar just

  117. like it, and it was ready for the king before

  118. the king returned from Damascus. When the king returned, he

  119. inspected the altar and made offerings on it. He presented

  120. a burnt offering and a grain offering, and he poured

  121. out a liquid offering, and he sprinkled the blood of

  122. peace offerings on the altar. Then King AHAs removed the

  123. old bronze altar from its place in front of the

  124. Lord's temple between the entrance and the new altar, and

  125. placed it on the north side of the new altar.

  126. He told Uriah the Priest used the new altar for

  127. the morning sacrifices of burnt offering, the evening grain offering,

  128. and King's burnt offering and grain offering, and the burnt

  129. offerings of all the people, as well as their grain

  130. offerings and liquid offerings. Sprinkle the blood from all the

  131. burnt offerings and sacrifices on the new altar. The bronze

  132. altar would be for my personal use only Uriah the

  133. Priest did just as King ah Has commanded him. Then

  134. the King removed the side panels and basins from the

  135. portable water carts. He also removed the great bronze basin

  136. called the Sea, from the backs of the bronze oxen

  137. and placed it on the stone pavement and deference to

  138. the king of a Siri. He also removed the canopy

  139. that had been constructed inside the palace for use on

  140. the Sabbath day, as well as the Lord's outer the

  141. King's outer entrance, the Temple of the Lord.

  142. Yeah, so you're you're messing with the temple altar.

  143. This is what he's doing, Yes, the temple altar.

  144. Yes, even though that God was so unbelievably specific, because

  145. this is this is the temple now, this is the

  146. same temple of Solomon, right right, yes, And so Solomon

  147. was given instructions down to the to the Cuban right right,

  148. And so so God is saying, you know, go back

  149. and go back and read some of those details for

  150. a minute and understand, like God is saying, this is

  151. exactly how I want you to build this altar. It

  152. has to be this dimension, made of this material, shaped

  153. in this fashion, lined with you know, this material, and

  154. it's just an unbelievably specific thing.

  155. And God said that he was pleased.

  156. Remember when the altar was done, God said that he

  157. would be pleased when it would be.

  158. Used for him.

  159. He actually commented specifically on this altar God himself, that's right.

  160. And then what he does is King a has comes

  161. along and he hijacks the altar and says, let's go ahead,

  162. and what he wants to honor the King of Assyria

  163. because because he did, he decided to make an altar

  164. based on something that the King of a Syria is

  165. familiar with.

  166. Let me read Second Chronicles, chapter twenty eight, in verse sixteen,

  167. it says at that time King a has A Judah

  168. asked the King of Assyria for help. The armies of

  169. Edom had again invaded Judah and taking captives, and the

  170. Philistines had raided towns located in the foothills of Judah.

  171. In the negative, Judah already captured and occupied Bethshemath, Aigelon, Ghetara,

  172. Soko and its villages, tim Nah with its villages, and

  173. Gimzo with its villages. The Lord was humbling Judah because

  174. of King AHAs of Judah, for he had encouraged his

  175. people to sin and had been utterly unfaithful to the Lord.

  176. So remember Isaiah had said bad things were going to

  177. happen the Syrians. We're gonna come and get you right right.

  178. So when King Tilgath Polizer of Assyria arrived, he attacked

  179. a has instead of helping him. Oh there it is,

  180. you see.

  181. Yeah.

  182. So then it says A has took valuable items from

  183. the lord's temple, the royal palace, and from the homes

  184. of his officials and gave them to the King of

  185. Assyria's tribute. But this did not help him. So King

  186. till death Polier still wasn't giving him any grace. He

  187. came to he enlisted him. He has enlisted him to

  188. come and help. Instead he invaded, right, is what happened.

  189. So then A has is trying to appease him, and

  190. he gives him stuff holy articles from the temple, and

  191. this didn't even appease you know, this godless man. Even

  192. during this time of trouble, King A has continued to

  193. reject the Lord. Well there you go, yep, you know

  194. my favorite word in ding dong. That's it, right there,

  195. there you go, ding dong. He offered sacrifices to the

  196. gods of Damascus who had defeated him, for he said,

  197. since these gods helped the kings of Aram, they will

  198. help me too if I sacrifice to them. But instead

  199. they led to his ruin and the ruin of all Judah.

  200. And then it goes on and talks about He then

  201. took various articles from the Temple of God and broke

  202. them into pieces. He shut the doors of the Lord's

  203. temple so that no one could worship there. And he

  204. set up altars to pagan gods in every corner of Jerusalem,

  205. made pagan shrines, and all the towns of Judah for

  206. offering sacrifice to other gods. And in this way he

  207. aroused the anger of the Lord and the God of

  208. his ancestors. Remember, his dad was a good guy, you know,

  209. and his son is a good guy. Yeah, but this

  210. guy man.

  211. You know, it's so interesting about that passage and Second Chronicles.

  212. I'm so glad you read that, because even though that

  213. a second King is what we started with, it talked

  214. about what a has did.

  215. Second Chronicles tells us why he.

  216. Did it, and it says, since it actually has a quote,

  217. since the gods small g helped the kings of Aram,

  218. they will help me too if I sacrifice to them.

  219. But instead they led to his ruin, in the ruin

  220. of all Judah. And then he went ahead and took

  221. various articles from the temple, broke them into pieces, built

  222. all these false altars, and so he must he had

  223. this theory. He offered sacrifices to the gods of Damascus

  224. who defeated them, thinking like, hey, this is the way.

  225. And so in other words, it sounds like what he

  226. was doing was he was so afraid of the King

  227. of Assyria. He wanted to submit to him and show

  228. his submission in every single way, including religious sacrifice, thinking

  229. if I just totally submit to him, I'll be on

  230. the receiving end of mercy and maybe perhaps favor. Right,

  231. So he takes and desecrates the temple the Lord and

  232. somehow puts politics in the King of Assyria as more

  233. important than God himself. So we're going to change the

  234. altar because we want to please the King of Assyria.

  235. And he's trying to act like the other powerful people,

  236. you know, and so for kings, kings want to be powerful,

  237. Kings want to be successful. So what he's doing is

  238. he's looking, well, they're successful. It must be their gods

  239. that did it, So I'm going to do what they do.

  240. We get tempted to do the same thing. We start

  241. copying our neighbors. They live in a nicer house, they

  242. drive a fancier car, they seem to be going on

  243. all the vacations. So we start trying to do the

  244. same things they do. We in high school or in college.

  245. Your friends look like they're having fun all the time,

  246. but of course it's always boos and alcohol and women

  247. or whatever, and so then you wind up doing the

  248. same thing. They begin to adapt their life style to

  249. the lifestyle and the belief system of the people that

  250. they're admiring. He got defeated, but in a weird way,

  251. he admires his oppressor, right, and so he looks up

  252. to him and says, man, I want that there's a

  253. note here in the Life Applications study a byout. You know,

  254. we love these the Life applications. You should get you one.

  255. It says, evil king a has copied pagan religious customs.

  256. He changed the temple services and used the temple alter

  257. for his own personal benefit, and so doing he demonstrated

  258. a callous disregard for God's commands. We condemn a Haas

  259. for his actions, but we act the same way if

  260. we try to mold God's message to fit our personal preferences.

  261. We must worship God for who he is, not what

  262. we would selfishly like him to be. That's the core

  263. lesson of this of this passage is so hey. I

  264. know God said to put the altar here, and this

  265. is what he wanted. But I think their altar is

  266. super cool. Let's move God's alter over there. I'm not

  267. totally getting rid of it. You know. He didn't totally

  268. get rid of it. He just altered it, changed its

  269. purpose and moved it from where God said to put it.

  270. And then I like this one, and I'm just going

  271. to worship my gods this way, and so he brings

  272. in another altar. Then he says, let's move They called

  273. it the sea. It was this giant basin of water,

  274. huge basin of water that was used for cleansing in

  275. the temple and stuff, and it was very beautiful, so

  276. they called the sea. He said, I just I want

  277. to change the purpose of that. Let's move this over here.

  278. Let's do these things. And he's making worship fit him

  279. rather than him worshiping God the way. God said, this

  280. is how you approached me right now through Jesus, we

  281. can boldly come before the throne. Our experience with God

  282. is a little bit different than a has is. For them,

  283. they had a very precise process and it was all

  284. hinting towards the cross someday, don't mess this up, right,

  285. do it the right way. And so it wasn't like

  286. it was confusing. It was that he didn't care. He

  287. decided he was going to mold God and got the

  288. worship of God to his own preferences rather than following

  289. God's way.

  290. Yeah, And.

  291. It's also a matter of convenience. And it's the same

  292. thing for us today. So for instance, people will say, uh,

  293. you know, I'm going to claim to be a Christian

  294. and I'm gonna when it's very convenient, I'm gonna, you know,

  295. do one of these you know, you know, in.

  296. A point to the sky right.

  297. And yet everything about my entire life is not going

  298. to represent what the Bible says at all or what

  299. God commands.

  300. This reminds me.

  301. Of most of the people that I'm sounding old here,

  302. but most of the people that I'm in conversation with now,

  303. who like, you know, I have this person I'm meeting

  304. with for for for a marriage or wedding, right, and

  305. and you know, I'm talking about like, hey, let's do

  306. things God's way, right.

  307. And and they're just like, what are you talking about?

  308. That is so old fashioned and ancient and right like

  309. like like that is.

  310. Not what anybody does.

  311. And I'm like, okay, what does that have to do

  312. with what I'm talking about?

  313. Right? What I'm talking about is this is what God says.

  314. And so my wife, why do you want to have

  315. a church wedding? Why do you want to have a

  316. pastor to your wedding? Right? Well, we want God to

  317. bless us, right, He's already told you how he'll bless you. Right,

  318. do the right thing, right, right, But it's so foreign

  319. to them, they don't know.

  320. Yeah, but people are that way in every area of

  321. our lives. It's it's like what we want to do

  322. is we want to customize Christianity and we want to

  323. you know, worship the way we want to and then

  324. not worship the way that we don't want to.

  325. So it's it's like I'll pick and choose. So one

  326. time our church did a video we did the Bible

  327. like a buffet.

  328. Remember, oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we did a Bible buffe.

  329. Yeah, we did a.

  330. Bible buffet where you sort of walk over and and

  331. there's like a big stoop of food and it says

  332. like versus on generosity. And then we had people go

  333. and they just walk by it.

  334. I don't care for the generosity, but I want blessings.

  335. That, you know. And then there's other easier ones.

  336. You know, I don't want holiness. Let's get the whole

  337. Oh yeah, but then.

  338. This one's like, you know, be nice, Like okay, I'll

  339. take a little bit of that. You know, I like

  340. to be nice.

  341. And so yeah, that's what we do. We customize the Bible.

  342. And that's really a picture of what's happening here. He's

  343. he's just like you said, He's like, hey, we won't

  344. totally get rid of it. We'll just put on the

  345. back burner. We're not going to obey God's commandment's exactly,

  346. but you know, we're it's sort of still there and

  347. I'll just do what I want. And and it's like

  348. that's that's the way that we Christianity today.

  349. I back in the early two thousands, Uh, Stephen Curtis

  350. Chapman had a song and it talks about I've got

  351. the bumper sticker and I've got the necklace and the

  352. message on my T shirt tells everybody what I believe,

  353. all these things, and he's like, yeah, but what about

  354. the change. So the whole course is what about the change. Yeah,

  355. and so you know, we we we use the We

  356. got the little statue on our on our dashboard, and

  357. we got the cross hanging from our mirror. But we're

  358. living like the devil all the time. We just want

  359. God to be a good luck charm a lot of times.

  360. And that's kind of what you're finding with a hash.

  361. Only here A has has gone beyond that even and

  362. he's so attracted to his to the people who defeated him.

  363. He's so attracted to their gods, thinking that their gods

  364. must be more powerful than his gods. And you know why,

  365. because his God didn't bail him out, The God of

  366. Israel did not bail him out. So he decided, instead

  367. of looking in why didn't God help me? He goes,

  368. I'm going to throw off this God. It's not my fault,

  369. it's God's fault. I'm going to go find it. I'm

  370. going to get a new God. I'm going to go

  371. worship the way I want to worship, do what I

  372. want to do. And you know, God never promises to

  373. bless us, ever promises bless us apart from obedience, right,

  374. So repentance leads us to going God's way and so

  375. in this case, I think a lot of times people

  376. want God's blessings, but they also want to do everything

  377. they want to do. They want to move the altar,

  378. they want to they want to change the process, they

  379. want to change everything, and still expect him to bless

  380. and he just doesn't do it. So that's one. Here's

  381. the other one that I wanted to highlight was and

  382. this came up in today's thing. The Bible is its

  383. own best commentary. So as we talk about Bible study,

  384. as we talk about applying the Bible, so as we

  385. read Second Kings, you know, it left a lot of

  386. unanswered questions for you and me. And I'll be honest

  387. with you, it's probably been a couple of years since

  388. I read this passage. I would imagine the last time

  389. I read through Second Kings. Shame on me, but shame

  390. on me. But you know what I mean, Probably this passage.

  391. I bet it was a couple of years ago, two

  392. or three years ago. So I wasn't like spur the moment.

  393. And for our listeners, if you don't know.

  394. You can't cover all the Bible all the time.

  395. Right, But for our listeners, if you're new, Chris and

  396. I are trying to operate this Bible study just like

  397. it would be for you and your friends if you

  398. went to a coffee shop, opened the Bible today and went, oh,

  399. we're in Second Kings chapter sixteen. Yep, right, And so

  400. we're talking about the Bible practical ways, and you know,

  401. we like to have fun with it. We laugh a lot,

  402. but we're just taking the words on the page right

  403. now without doing a bunch of research and prep at

  404. a time. We just have a good study Bible in

  405. front of us, sure, and a reservoir of stuff we know, right,

  406. And so we're chit chatting about it that way. And

  407. we think you can have the same kind of conversation

  408. like this with your friends if you do a couple

  409. of things. One, if you ask, every every time you

  410. read a passage, what does this teach us about God?

  411. You also ask what is it saying about how humanity

  412. tends to behave? So it talks about a has here,

  413. but we can apply a has this thing to hey,

  414. humanity does this a lot of.

  415. Which we just did.

  416. We just did right. Then you ask is there a

  417. command to obey? Is there a sin to avoid? Is

  418. there a promise to claim? And then you come back

  419. to yourself and you're asking, how do I apply this

  420. to me? What does this mean? And because of this,

  421. this is what I'm going to do different or this

  422. is how I'm going to move forward in my life.

  423. Those six questions the seventh questions sometimes and oftentimes it'll

  424. be earlier in it, like we just did. Where else

  425. in the Bible doesn't talk about this?

  426. Right?

  427. Right? Because the Bible will never disagree with itself and

  428. it always is its own best commentary. Right. So what

  429. we found was in Second Chronicles, chapter twenty eight. It

  430. tells a different portion of the same story, and we

  431. learned a lot more. He was defeated by til Death Pilzer,

  432. and that's why he was attracted, because he felt like

  433. he's God abandoned and he went to embraced their God.

  434. So those six questions plus the idea of where else

  435. it doesn't mention in the Bible, the Bible's its own

  436. best commentation. I think you can understand almost any pass.

  437. Give me the six questions quickly again.

  438. What's to say about God? Yep? What's to say about people?

  439. Yep?

  440. Is there a command to obeyep? Is there a sinda avoid?

  441. Is there a promise to claim what should I do

  442. about it?

  443. That's great? Yeah, that's great.

  444. And that's that's essentially the format you and I use

  445. for all the time.

  446. For sure we do, right, for sure we do.

  447. There's there's and there's nothing wrong with different types of studies,

  448. right Like like if you were to listen to different

  449. types of podcast and and they go word by word, sure,

  450. and they and they're going to break down that word

  451. and they're going to research it and they're going to

  452. dissect it, and they're going to cross reference it, and

  453. they're gonna talk about you know, interpretations and misinterpretations and

  454. things like that, and uh, those are great.

  455. Studies, right. But but this is this is a this is.

  456. A applicant application approach, which, by the way, is is

  457. my bent. I love when you can understand it passage

  458. that is sometimes maybe perhaps a little bit more complicated

  459. and sometimes in discussion. Uh. And that's why I love

  460. small groups sometimes because if you're depending on who you're

  461. in the room with, somebody in the room will say,

  462. you know what, that reminds me of this, and they'll say.

  463. It and you go, oh, like.

  464. I remember, I remember one time we were talking about like, uh,

  465. creation and and uh. And I remember I was with

  466. this guy named Steve and he said, you know what

  467. that reminds me of?

  468. He said, uh, he said, he goes this word in

  469. the in the Hebrew is what is it? Ex helio?

  470. Right?

  471. Is that listen where you speak something from nothing?

  472. Yeah? He spoke from God created, Yeah, which is something

  473. from nothing?

  474. Yes?

  475. And and and did you know that that same concept

  476. can be transferred when when Jesus spoke the church into existence?

  477. Oh h isn't that cool?

  478. It didn't exist and then it did?

  479. Yes?

  480. Yeah, right, and so like like you just probably you

  481. probably just connected the dots right there, just like Steve

  482. did for me. And I remember thinking to myself, like, wow,

  483. that is an unbelievable thought. And again it's it's it's

  484. a that's an information based thing. But uh, but you know,

  485. sometimes the application can be Sometimes God can speak something

  486. into your life from nothing.

  487. Well, this this idea asking those six questions, They've been

  488. kicked around quite a bit, but I think the one

  489. who made it the most famous a guy named David Watson.

  490. He was a missionary, uh, to people who did not

  491. have access to podcasts, they didn't have access to TV.

  492. There wasn't some giant and printing industry printing new Bible

  493. study books. All they had was portions of the Bible

  494. in their language. And so he realized, there's no other

  495. way to disciple these people except the words written on

  496. the page. And I can't be with them all the time.

  497. So in order to reach this whole group of people,

  498. I'm going to need to teach a whole bunch of

  499. them how to go to their friends and family and

  500. have a meaningful look into what the Bible says. So

  501. this isn't a theological dig. This is just for understanding

  502. and application kind of a day. And that's how you

  503. and I are doing it. Right. So one of the

  504. things that I've encouraged people to do before is every

  505. day when you open your Bible, have a little journal.

  506. If you're trying to learn how to make this discipline

  507. in your life, have a little journal and write it.

  508. First of all, write the question was to say about God?

  509. Question mark? And then dig through. Here's what we found out.

  510. God didn't help out. King A has here, Okay, great,

  511. what's to say about people? People tend to want to

  512. worship God their own way? Right? Okay? Write that down?

  513. And what I'll happen is you'll start to develop the

  514. habit of seeing that. My dad taught me that process

  515. a number of years ago, and then I've had the

  516. opportunity to meet some of the key leaders that ever

  517. worked with David Watson and those kinds of things. I

  518. met David Watson one time, and it's fantastic. This whole

  519. process has changed my life. And I believe if you

  520. would apply that even in some obscure passage in Second

  521. Kings chapter sixteen, Second Chronicles chapter twenty eight, you can

  522. grab something from every passage in the Bible. If you

  523. ask those simple questions, you don't have to be at

  524. the Elogian.

  525. Well, that's a great place to wrap it up. And

  526. thank you so much for being here today and joining

  527. us on the Bible guys, and hopefully we will see

  528. you tomorrow.

  529. See you then,