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  1. You're listening to The Bible Guys, a podcast where a

  2. couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in

  3. practical ways. Hey, everybody, welcome to the Bible Guys.

  4. I'm Chris Kyle.

  5. This is Kyle and today we're the Bible Guys because

  6. Jeff's out of town. So Kyle is a favorite, a

  7. fan favorite of you know. It's it's I don't know

  8. how they rank.

  9. I don't know either.

  10. It's probably probably Chris and Jeff. Yeah, definitely, It's definitely

  11. christ and Jeff, and then probably and.

  12. Then probably Quinn because that one time got on there,

  13. that one time you like Quinn on there.

  14. He still doesn't let that down, by the.

  15. Way, it's so funny. Yeah, and by the way, for

  16. our listeners, I h Quinn. I said, hey, is this

  17. the first time you get on the Guys? He goes,

  18. I've been on twice before you.

  19. This is my third time. It was good.

  20. It's terrible you're greeting it was It was funny because

  21. you were so genuinely like thinking it was you were

  22. greeting the first time.

  23. Oh yeah, terrible. Anyway, we have a great story happening

  24. with Nehemiah and Nehemiah is we're about to see that

  25. he's about to approach the king and he's going to

  26. ask him whether or not he has permission to go

  27. back to Jerusalem and build the wall. And it's going

  28. to be an incredible journey. But before we get into that,

  29. we have a segment, and the segment is the Babylon Bee.

  30. Because we are committed to the finest news. Have you

  31. ever heard Jeff say that? Yes, he he's insistent about

  32. saying it. He goes, we are just committed to your

  33. listeners to bringing the best source of news. And of

  34. course Babylon Bee's a satire. And here's how this one reads.

  35. It says, oh no, Phil Robertson greeted in Heaven by

  36. twelve million angry ducks, which is hilarious the Duck Dynasty guy. Yeah, okay,

  37. so it says it's Look, it starts off with location

  38. Heaven Church elder and Duck Dynasty star Phil Robertson came

  39. face to face with consequences this after he caught up

  40. to Paradise. After he was caught to Paradise where twelve

  41. million angry ducks awaited him, Robertson the Christian founder of

  42. duck commander, a store specializing in gear for it, says,

  43. the store specializing in gear for duck murder was found

  44. dead following a battle with Alzheimer's disease at the age

  45. of seventy nine. In his life, he had allegedly murdered

  46. millions of ducks. Oh, my goodness, have mercy. I'm sorry.

  47. It was just a harmless hobby, Robertson reported, and yelled

  48. as he ran from a great ducks that s rolled

  49. all around him. Don't hold against me. You're delicious and

  50. fun to shoes, so funny. We are not so merciful, commander,

  51. said John Mallard. A duck gifted with tongues. Ducks attack. Oh,

  52. this is ridiculous. According to witnesses, a mighty flock of

  53. ducks appeared like a seat of locusts and descended upon him,

  54. just as Paul the Apostle was beginning the orientation tour,

  55. and he chased away his own mansion. He chased away. Oh,

  56. he was chased away to his own mansion and forced

  57. to barricade himself indoors as ducks circled overhead.

  58. We can do this.

  59. All day, Commander Mallard. Quacky ducks don't get tired in heaven.

  60. The dramatic event was witnessed by former American Presidents Abraham

  61. Lincoln and James A. Garfield. At publishing time, Phil Robertson

  62. had arrived at the wedding feast of the Lamb with

  63. enough duck duck al lrange for everyone. Oh my goodness, gracious,

  64. that is ridiculous. By the way, why did they say

  65. former American Presidents Abraham Lincoln and James Dark hunters? Maybe

  66. Dan if Jeff was here, he would have told them.

  67. He would totally.

  68. You would have been like, the duck unders has to

  69. be a connection.

  70. Okay, that is so.

  71. Glad. That got you too.

  72. He's in his story specializing indur for Dug murder. It

  73. is so funny. That's great.

  74. Yeah, that's good. Rest in peace, Phil Robertson.

  75. Yeah, no kidding. And I've never once seen an episode Doug, so.

  76. I know that, Like since the show has come on,

  77. it's definitely been like a It was a cult classic

  78. for sure, and then a lot of their their family

  79. members members have done like spin offs. Sadie Robertson is

  80. actually like an influencer if you have teenage girls or

  81. I guess twenty something girls. That's a great person for

  82. them to follow. She's she's pretty solid.

  83. But yeah, I don't know. It's really sad, sad story,

  84. but I love that met by twelve million ducks. That's Now.

  85. Have you ever gone hunting?

  86. Yeah? Once?

  87. And what did you hunt? It was?

  88. It was going deer hunting a long time ago. It

  89. was I just it's not for me.

  90. Yeah, sitting still?

  91. Nope, Well yeah I didn't hit anything, but yeah, I

  92. my impatience got to me.

  93. Yeah, so what what What did you not like about it?

  94. Because it's sitting it's probably the same.

  95. Thing sitting still.

  96. It's the patie, it's the way. I just it was

  97. just a lot of it. And I think if I

  98. what have like, that's the thing people like, go duck hunting.

  99. They said it's a lot of fun. Pheasant hunting. Apparently

  100. it's a lot of fun. Okay, But when it comes

  101. to sitting in a tree stand and enjoying the scenery,

  102. I think I could do that for about an hour.

  103. But yeah, it was a while ago, and I remember

  104. just being a little bit bored with it.

  105. How about you?

  106. Yeah, well I've never been hunting, but people describe it

  107. to me like it's heaven. And like, for instance, like

  108. Jeff as we as most of us know, Jeff's a hunter, right,

  109. And by the way, I'm grateful for hunters. I'm not

  110. anti hunter. I'm very glad. I love my hamburgers and

  111. steaks right, well, not steaks, I mean that's that's pretty

  112. hamburgers and steaks are pretty easy to kill, right, But

  113. but like you know, I'm thankful for everything else, right,

  114. I'm grateful for all that. However, I want to say this,

  115. when people describe it to me like heaven, I literally

  116. think to myself, I can't imagine a more miserable existence.

  117. They're like, dude, man, I was sitting in the tree

  118. for like eight hours. I was just looking at the

  119. woods and I was sitting in the little and I'm like,

  120. you mean that little red cherry that you have, that

  121. that fastens against the tree. Yeah, yeah, that one. I'm like,

  122. you sat in that for eight hours. It's crazy, like

  123. like that would be uncomfortable for one hour. Yeah yeah,

  124. let alone. It's like it wasn't like forty degrees out,

  125. oh yeah, man, it was great.

  126. It's freezing cold.

  127. Yeah yeah, you just dress up warm, you know, And

  128. it was great, and then the duck hunting, even like

  129. you're wading through the you know, the muck and the mire.

  130. You know, it's just I think even a little bit

  131. of movement would be would do well.

  132. But I would also say too, Jeff, he wouldn't enjoy

  133. sitting on a golf course, you know, playing golf right

  134. most of the day.

  135. I know he does golf from Timetown, but it's not

  136. his heaven, right.

  137. But for me, you know that to him sometimes of

  138. going to a golf thing, he's like, oh, I guess

  139. I will.

  140. He will if it's a social thing.

  141. But to me, that's more My speed is going and

  142. doing something where you actually have to you know, it's

  143. just a little bit of variety. Even on a golf

  144. course where things are going slow, that's that That is

  145. like hell on Earth to me is sitting and waiting

  146. super long. But that's also I probably need to work

  147. on patients. Sounds like we both probably do.

  148. Yeah, yeah, yeah, well we're probably wired that way because

  149. because golf is golf, what would be something I would

  150. enjoy for yes, four to five hours.

  151. Yes, it allows you to, Yeah, you have to move

  152. along a little bit.

  153. I mean, it's not a super fast paced event, but

  154. definitely more so than hunting.

  155. Okay. For all the hunters out there, and especially all

  156. of our listeners in my city and surrounding regions, thank

  157. you for what you do. And I love Venison, and

  158. I love.

  159. Thank you for what you do.

  160. Yet and I hope you enjoyed that story about the

  161. ducks fwollow million angry.

  162. Gosh, it's so funny. All right. Well, hey, we're going

  163. to move on to Neamiah chapter two for our listeners.

  164. Neemaiyah is a cup bearer to the king, and he

  165. was moved when he had heard that his people were

  166. defenseless back in his hometown. And so he is about

  167. to approach the king and ask him to quit his job. Yes,

  168. a very comfy, favorable job by the way of prominence,

  169. all right.

  170. Neemiah chapter two says this early the following spring, in

  171. the month of Nissan, during the twentieth year of King

  172. Arctic Service's reign, I was serving the king as wine.

  173. I never before appeared sad and presence. So the king

  174. asked me, why are you looking so sad. You don't

  175. look sick to me. You must be deeply troubled. Then

  176. I was terrified but I replied, long live the King.

  177. How can I not be sad? For the city where

  178. my ancestors are buried is in ruins and the gates

  179. have been destroyed by fire. The King asked, well, how

  180. can I help you with a prayer to the God

  181. of heaven. I replied, if it please, if it yeah,

  182. if it please the King, and if you are pleased

  183. with me your servants, send me to Judah to rebuild

  184. the city where my ancestors are buried. The King, with

  185. the Queen sitting beside him, asked, how long will you

  186. be gone and when will you return? After I told

  187. him how long I would be gone, the King agreed

  188. to my request. I also said to the king, if

  189. it please the King, let me have letters addressed to

  190. the governors of the province west of Euphrates River, instructing

  191. them to let me travel safely through the territories, dressed

  192. to through the territories, I'm a way to Judah, and

  193. please give me a letter addressed to Asaff the manager

  194. of the King's forest, and directing him to give me timber.

  195. I will need it to make beams for the gates

  196. of the temple fortress for the city walls and for

  197. a house for myself, and the King granted these requests

  198. because the gracious hand of God was on me. When

  199. it came to the governors of the province west of

  200. the Euphrates River, I delivered the King's letters to them.

  201. The King, I should add, had sent along army officers

  202. and horsemen to protect me. But when san Balat and

  203. Hahrnit and Tobiah, the Ammonite official, heard of my arrival,

  204. they were veried, displeased that someone had come to help

  205. the people of Israel ont Verse eleven. So I arrived

  206. in Jerusalem three days later. I slipped out during the night,

  207. taking only a few others with me. I had not

  208. told anyone about the plans God to put my heart

  209. for Jerusalem. We took no pack animals with us except

  210. the donkey I was riding. After dark, I went out

  211. through the valley gate, passed the jackals well, and over

  212. to the dung gate dung gate to inspect the broken

  213. walls and burn gates. Then I went to the fountain

  214. gate and to the King's pool, but my donkey couldn't

  215. get through the rubble, so though it was still dark,

  216. I went up to the Kidron Valley instead, inspecting the

  217. wall before I turned back and entered again at the

  218. valley gate. The city officials did not know I had

  219. been there or what I was doing, for I had

  220. not yet said anything to anyone about my plans. I

  221. had not yet spoken to the Jewish leaders, the priests,

  222. the nobles, the officials, or anyone else in the administration.

  223. But now I said to them, you know very well

  224. what trouble we are in Jerusalem lies in ruins, and

  225. its gates have been destroyed by fire.

  226. Let us rebuild the Wall.

  227. Of Jerusalem and end this disgrace. Then I told them

  228. about how the gracious hand of God had been on me,

  229. and about my conversation with the king. They replied at once, yes,

  230. let's rebuild the wall. So they began the good work.

  231. But when san Balat Tobaia and Gesshem the Arab heard

  232. of our plan, they scoffed contemptuously. What are you doing?

  233. Are you rebelling against the king, they asked. I replied,

  234. the God of Heaven will help us succeed. We his

  235. servants will start rebuild in this wall. But you have

  236. no share, legal right or historic claim in Jerusalem.

  237. Wow, all right, that is amazing. There's a there's a

  238. graph on the next page where it actually shows all

  239. of the different gates of the old Jerusalem walls, and uh, man,

  240. there's a lot of gates. I mean there's like what

  241. looks like the looks like fifteen gates or so. So

  242. the walls, of course, back then you had to have

  243. city walls to protect the city. Uh And so I

  244. would say most prominent cities of significance especially had walls.

  245. And the reason why is because it is very difficult

  246. to infiltrate a city or attack a city when it

  247. has walls. And so we've all seen the old movies

  248. right where you know, like a castle for instance, you

  249. know it's surrounded by a moat. That's one way to

  250. protect the city. And then even even people trying to

  251. climb the climb the walls and then they would pour

  252. down you know, hot tar or you know, you know,

  253. be able to shoot things and drop rocks and all

  254. these different things, and and so yeah, that's that's what

  255. it was needed. And so one of the reasons why

  256. ne andm Iah was so moved is because he realizes

  257. that back in that day, cities would just conquer cities

  258. tribes would conquer tribes. I mean, case in point, the Babylonians, right,

  259. you know, the Persians. King David's whole life was conquering

  260. other people, right, and and so so that was obviously

  261. a very big concern. And so imagine just an entire

  262. city completely in ruins. And so yeah, sure, thanks King

  263. Cyrus for letting all the Jews go back to Jerusalem.

  264. But but but you know, I fear for my people.

  265. That was the Amiah's big thing. I fear for them.

  266. And so and again I love I love his vision

  267. because because what does he say. He says, how can

  268. I not be sad to the king? He says, the

  269. city of my ancestors, right, So he's just I mean,

  270. he's he's such a big thinker. It's it's a great thing.

  271. I think there's a lot to learn about how he

  272. approaches the king. Because it says that he had never

  273. appeared sad in his presence.

  274. So this is somebody who.

  275. Whether he sounds he said, I've never appeared sad, never

  276. it's not didn't say I've never been sad in his present,

  277. never appeared sad. So he definitely knew how to turn

  278. it on, turn it off, and also, you know, look

  279. the part because, like you mentioned in a previous episode, Chris,

  280. there's probably a little bit of fear he had, well,

  281. there's probably a lot of fear that he had of

  282. the king, of the position, of the king's power, maybe

  283. even the queen's power. And so he's going there and

  284. it says he was terrified, and then he responds by saying,

  285. long live the King. And then he just kind of

  286. broke down and was honest there when the king said

  287. what can I help you with? I love that The

  288. king just says, well, how can I help you? Like

  289. that was the king's response, probably not at all what

  290. he was expecting, yeah, to say, how can I help you?

  291. Well, I mean, there's a couple of things about what

  292. you just said. When it says then I was terrified,

  293. it makes me believe that he didn't intend on looking sad. No, Right,

  294. So it's like because it seems like maybe in his

  295. mind he was probably thinking, hey, I'm gonna approach the king,

  296. but all of a sudden he was caught off guard

  297. by this premature conversation because the king said, why do

  298. you look sad? He says, then I was terrified, So

  299. I wonder if that's what it means, or it could

  300. just mean that he planned it. Like you said, he

  301. turned it on and uh and then uh and then

  302. all of a sudden, it's like the reality kicked it.

  303. He kicked in like here comes.

  304. But I love it.

  305. And it was mentioned again in the last episode. But

  306. about his prayer life, it's interesting how before when they

  307. when the King asked him, well, how can I help you,

  308. it wasn't like he came up with and well, he

  309. actually did have a plan, which I think was kind

  310. of cool. We can get to that a little bit,

  311. how he actually had already planned out the house how

  312. much Like that's kind of sweet. And that's what's awesome

  313. about about Neami. He's definitely a strategic leader. But I

  314. like how it'd start off by saying with a prayer

  315. to the God of Heaven. It's like he's just like,

  316. it's just this idea that like he's in a wisconstant

  317. state of prayer. It wasn't like, we know, we're pretty confident.

  318. He didn't stop say let me pray before I ask him.

  319. It was just this state. And I think everybody listenings

  320. can relate to a time or maybe you had to

  321. go to a boss or to a friend or fember

  322. something where you know you have to ask for something,

  323. or there's a little bit of fear of trepidation about

  324. what's upcoming. And how often do we just think, man,

  325. I want to make sure I got all my questions

  326. lined up.

  327. I want to make sure that I'm strategic. I want

  328. to make sure that an argument is.

  329. Correct, as opposed to saying I'm gonna pray first, you know,

  330. it's very important. And then I like too how the

  331. response the king says, with the queen sitting behind them

  332. beside him, asked how long a you be gone?

  333. And when we return?

  334. I want to just believe that this was exactly how

  335. the king felt like. I want to believe that that

  336. the king was just like, okay, how long you be gone?

  337. I don't know if that's exactly how I responded, but

  338. it also is a cool indication of the mindset of

  339. this king of king. Art exercees the fact that he

  340. wasn't trying to hold on to the cup bearer, who

  341. is a very important position. It wasn't something that he

  342. felt like he needed to try to restrict him and

  343. hold him back.

  344. Well, you would think you would think that a king's

  345. reaction would be literally the opposite of everything that our

  346. desertions did. Like, for instance, the first thing is, hey,

  347. you look sad. What king that we know in history

  348. would ever care?

  349. That?

  350. Was cup bear looks at yes, right, who cares? He's

  351. a cupbear? Right, It's like, it's like, who cares? Why

  352. would a king even pay attention to that? And the

  353. answer is because our desert sees obviously was a caring person.

  354. And then you know there's probably a second answer to that.

  355. And the second answer to that is obviously Nehemiah was

  356. very well loved.

  357. Yes, right, So if like Daniel was like, that's what

  358. school A lot of the characters in the same time frame,

  359. ish were very much they were influential.

  360. Yes, well, they were revered as employees, right, so they

  361. were the most faithful, they were the most uh you know,

  362. uh efficient, dynamic, performing because after all, everything they touched

  363. prospered and they had the favor of God. And so

  364. those who were above them in Daniel's case, with Sharick,

  365. Meshek and Bendio and Daniel, they continued to promote them

  366. because their God favored them and uh and in this

  367. particular case, we obviously they're seeing that Nemiah is Is

  368. is a great and valued person and employee. And you

  369. know what that there's a sermon in there somewhere, and

  370. that is I remember one time hearing one of my

  371. favorite speakers as Andy Stanley. I remember hearing him one time,

  372. and it said Christians should be the best employees. Uh.

  373. That that there, that there could be. So in other words,

  374. every boss should say, man, is that person a Christian?

  375. I want to hire that person? And somebody'd say, why,

  376. WELLY may not necessarily be a Christian, but I want

  377. to hire a Christian because Christians are always on time,

  378. they're always loyal, they're always kind, they're always you know, faithful,

  379. they're always diligent, they're always in all these different kinds

  380. of things. And uh, and if you think about that,

  381. that is a big testimony. I remember when I was

  382. a high school student, I obviously grew up in a

  383. household that had a lot of attitude, a lot of

  384. rebellion in my household, right, And so a lot of

  385. times if we felt like we were being treated unfairly,

  386. or if somebody was not worthy of respect, we would

  387. we would not react to that person kindly. Right, we

  388. would do anything we could to stick it to the

  389. man kind of thing, right. We would just we would

  390. just rebel disrespect. And that was sort of the family

  391. culture that I that I sort of grew up in.

  392. I apologize if that sounds offensive to anybody in my

  393. family who is listening. But the reality of it is,

  394. it is true. It is sort of the mindset that

  395. we had, in fact, the whole neighborhood mindset, right, maybe

  396. even the whole west side Youngstown, I'm not sure, but anyway,

  397. the point is is that I remember hearing that Christians

  398. should be different, and I remember reading and I think

  399. it's in Ephesians, right, that actually says we don't serve

  400. our bosses for our boss's sake. We serve our bosses

  401. like we're serving Christ, right, and therefore God will be

  402. honored because we serve the boss, our employer, because of Christ.

  403. If you think about it, it's like, what like, even

  404. if my boss is a jerk, even if my boss

  405. is it doesn't treat me well. Well, isn't that the

  406. nature of the Gospel. The nature of the Gospel says,

  407. you know, we should, you know, heap coals of fire

  408. in someone's head. In humility, not returning anger for anger.

  409. But you know we should, we should constantly forgive and

  410. love and demonstrate Christ's spirit. And it's just I mean,

  411. that's a massive sermon in there somewhere, Christians. Let's check ourselves.

  412. Let's be the best example where we are, even if

  413. it's frustrating.

  414. Ye and Neemiah is somebody who is his influence and

  415. all those things that led him to the permission from

  416. the king, because at the end of the day, if

  417. the king doesn't give permission, this story ends there. I mean,

  418. who knows what have happened. You could have been killed,

  419. There's a lot of things that could have happened. But

  420. instead he had earned the favor of the king. And

  421. when I was reading this, it actually a story that

  422. came to my mind as I was looking at this,

  423. because I think that the king's response was so important

  424. here because I believe that the God actually gave favor

  425. to Neemayah, and and Neamiyah previously prayed to have favor in.

  426. The King's eyes and the king granted it to him.

  427. Made me think there was a time a few years

  428. ago she had somebody who was interning for me in

  429. a role and she was awesome, like superstar intern. When

  430. it got time to like the new year, we wanted

  431. to hire her on the staff, and I remember she'd

  432. spent a few months like kicking, but it was gonna

  433. be awesome. Had this perfect role planned out for her.

  434. And then I presented with the idea of her working

  435. on this team in this role, and she said, you know,

  436. I'm gonna pray about it and think about it. I'll

  437. get back to you and.

  438. I'll be honest.

  439. I was kind of surprised because I feel like it

  440. was such a slam dunk thing that I was like, Okay,

  441. of course, go pray about it. She comes back and

  442. she said, I've been praying about it. You'd be surprised

  443. because I'm gonna say no for now, and here's why.

  444. And what it was was that her heart broke for

  445. the job she currently had as well, like before that

  446. where she was making some headway and sharing her faith

  447. with some of her lost unsaved coworkers, she was making

  448. a ton of headway, she was sharing her faith and

  449. was going great, and she said, I'm not ready to

  450. say yes to this job right now because I feel

  451. like it would be a bad example to my coworkers

  452. who have like put so much trust and hope and

  453. faith in me, and I'm still trying to lead them

  454. to Jesus.

  455. Now what do I say in that situation?

  456. Right, I'm like, I'm like, in a way, I'm like, okay,

  457. I think that's very noble of you. In a way,

  458. I'm like, that's where your heart is breaking. I'm not

  459. going to stop what God is doing your heart crazy enough?

  460. Is this is wild? We just started our Stony Creek

  461. in Rochester Hills campus eight months ago. One of the

  462. people that she was trying to reach for Jesus comes

  463. every single week. I think he's missed one week. He

  464. makes a joke about it. He's only missed one week.

  465. He recently told me he accepted Christ for the like

  466. for the first time, and he's getting baptized in August,

  467. like very excited about it. Now, this is a person

  468. who he doesn't know this. He doesn't listen to this podcast.

  469. Maybe maybe he will. But years ago she made the

  470. decision to stick with that job because her heart broke

  471. for someone like him, and now he can't.

  472. He has come to know Jesus.

  473. And so it was really just this cool moment where

  474. I began to realize that there's so much going on

  475. behind the scenes that oftentimes when somebody wants to be

  476. released from something or that maybe God is moving them

  477. in a certain way, it's really easy to want to

  478. stay in our comfort, right, It's really easy for us

  479. want to like make our plans and of course our

  480. you know, sometimes your emotions or feelings get hurt. But

  481. in that moment, I remember just being like, I'm just

  482. going to trust whatever God has said to you, kind

  483. of like with this king, I mean the king, he

  484. clearly was like, Okay, what do you need?

  485. How are we going to make this happen?

  486. And I think it was because God had already softened

  487. his heart to what Neamiah was about to ask.

  488. Right, Yeah, that's great, And and it's also a reminder

  489. that God is orchestrating all things everywhere. Right, there's a

  490. master plan. There's a you know in neami is a

  491. great example last chapter where he said he said, hey,

  492. you know, you predicted that this would be true if

  493. your people return to you, that we would come back

  494. after the exile, And so he has this massive picture

  495. of you know, what it means to you know, look

  496. through the generations and and here you are. You had

  497. enough sense in that moment to say, Okay, well God's

  498. obviously up to something you didn't know what. And now

  499. you're able to look back over how many years ago?

  500. Is that three?

  501. Yeah?

  502. A long time.

  503. That's a good amount of time to be sure through

  504. planting those seeds.

  505. Yeah, and then and then all of a sudden, three

  506. years ago you look back and say, oh, God, God

  507. obviously had her there for a reason, right, And who knows,

  508. maybe she was instrumental in his life where you know,

  509. you know, he was the one that you know, she

  510. was the one that got used primarily to uh, to

  511. push him that way. And so yeah, entire families could

  512. be changed because of that one decision, yes, which is amazing. Well, hey,

  513. that looks like a great place to end. And Nehemiah

  514. is going to start the task next chapter and hopefully

  515. we'll have you join us on the Bible guys, see

  516. tomorrow