"They Do Not Practice What They Preach” | Matthew 23:1–12

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Hey, speaking of fantastic.

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You know what else is fantastic? Weddings?

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today on Oh wait.

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I looked at the wrong chapter. Hey, hey, ready for

this hate that's like, I don't know where you're going

with that. Okay, how about this ready? That was fantastic.

You know what is not fantastic? What seven woes?

When people don't preach what, they don't live what they preach.

Yeah, I just looked at the caption. It says seven woes.

Okay, seven woes.

So talking about a horrible transition.

So so this one is they do not practice what

they preach.

Yeah. Yeah, which, by the way, is a very famous

saying yes Jesus made popular.

Yeah, he made a lot of popular saying yes he

really did turn the other cheek, go the extra mile?

Yeah, well yeah, much more than that.

But just what you preach.

And there are people who, by.

The way, use sayings and they don't know where they

came from, have any idea. Yeah, they had no idea

when they say go the extra mile. No, I don't

think almost anybody I know, unless they grew up in church,

they would.

Have no idea or ever cracked the Bible.

Or ever cracked a Bible. They wouldn't even know that

came from Jesus. Yeah.

Well, we are in Matthew chapter twenty three today, and

the premise of our podcast now is what if Jesus

had a podcast? That's right, And so we're taking famous

sayings that Jesus said, we're just kind of yeah, unpacking them.

What content would he cover?

Yeah?

And furthermore, what would people ask him about it?

And I think one of the things he would have

covered was watch out for those Pharisees, because they don't

practice what they preach. Probably so so as a matter

of fact, funny enough, that's exactly what he says right

here in Matthew chapter twenty three, in verse one, it says,

then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples,

the teachers of religious law and the Pharisees are the

official interpreters of the law of Moses. So practice and

obey whatever they tell you, but don't follow their example,

for they don't practice what they teach. They crush people

with their unbearable religious demands and never lift a finger

to ease the burden. Everything they do is for show

on their arms. They wear extra wide prayer boxes with

scripture versus inside, and they wear robes with extra long tassels.

And they love to sit at the head table at

banquets and in the seats of honor in the synagogues.

And they love to receive respectful greetings as they walk

in the marketplaces, and to be called rabbi. Don't let

anyone call you rabbi, for you have only one teacher,

and all of you are equal as brothers and sisters.

Don't address anyone here on earth as father, for only

God in Heaven is your father. And don't let anyone

call you teacher, for you have only one teacher, the Messiah.

The greatest among you must be a servant. But those

who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble

themselves will be exalted.

Is that it?

Yeah, that's right. Well I'm only wrong for twelve Oh

why you were talking about all the woes?

I want you to go on.

You want me to get into all the woes.

Yeah, but that's okay, because, like I said, I just

didn't realize we were only doing twelve verses. That's why

I said seven woes earlier.

Okay, so prac you you kind of set it, you

kind of set the table for everybody. Well, let's go

read the seven woes.

Hey, hey, let's let's be honest.

My transitions missed on everybody that that transition was not

well thought.

Well, you were in the wrong passage, yes, and then

beyond where we're actually reading.

So you might say I did the before and the after,

I missed the actual passage.

Yes, So yes, I'm here for you, buddy.

Thanks buddy. Uh so we have uh Jesus with the Pharisees.

And wow, what an unbelievably strong uh rebuke.

I guess, yes, right against the religious leaders.

And again he wasn't He wasn't rebuking their position necessarily.

He was rebuking their spirit, their mindset, their attitude, their what,

their false humility, their arrogance, their pride.

Right, So it wasn't.

Necessarily about the fact that they were the religious leaders.

It was the fact that they were not right and

just about anything that they thought or how they acted.

And so he's really saying, goodness gracious, right, because when

you hear that, you could take it at face value,

and you could be like, well, wait a minute, we

call Chris teacher, right, what do you mean It says,

don't call you teacher. You only have one teacher, you know,

don't call anybody father. Wait a minute, we have religious

people that we call father.

Right.

It's like, is that a sin? It's like, is it

a sin to call me a teacher? It's like, what

do you mean, don't call? And what Jesus is doing

is he's talking about attitudes. He's not talking about titles,

you know, He's talking about the spirit in which you

are saying, like, hey, God is the only teacher right now?

You and I teach, right, but we teach from the

teacher capital t Right. That's the posture that Jesus is

talking about. He's not saying it's a sin to call

me or you or anybody else a teacher. He's saying,

when you posture yourself as the teacher, that's where the

sin comes in, right, Because he's saying, they love to

be called the rabbi. They sit themselves at the highest

place in the banquet table. They put you know, they

make themselves the show that they're the spectacle. They're the

ones to be admired, not God them. They place themselves

as the people to be admired, and Jesus is saying,

don't place yourself as the man, and so I quivate.

Uh equivalent? What am I start trying to say? I'm

trying Is that a word equivalent?

No?

No, huh, well I equal that to for instance, somebody

coming up to me and saying, like, man, that was

a life changing message, and me actually thinking.

Man, I'm glad I was able to change your life.

I'm glad I did that.

Yes, thank you.

So you're welcome. You're a welcome person. Right as if?

As if, as if God isn't the one who.

Does all the growing?

Right? Right?

So what is it? What does the Bible say? All

says He says, we plant, we water, God gives them.

That's correct.

God does the growing. God does all the work. Right

we were All we're doing is we're putting the seed

in the ground. We're watering and saying, okay, God, make

sure that you know.

I pray that that grows.

I pray it grows into a fruit or you know,

a plant or whatever. And God does all the miraculous

work and all those things.

So I think it's interesting. I'm agreeing with you on

this that it's really the intent of the rabbi language

or the father language, and what he's pushing back against.

It's it's very interesting. At the beginning, he says, you

should do what they say, You should follow their teaching, right,

do whatever they tell you, just don't follow their example.

So they they were teaching God's words, so so they're

the teaching of God's words you should do. They're the

experts on God's words. You should do what they tell

you as long as it aligns with God's words. Paul said,

follow me as I follow Christ. Remember when he said that,

it's kind of the same idea. As long as they're

following God's words, do what they say, but don't do

what they do because they're hypocrites in the way that

they're living. They don't even practice what they preach. So

you should do the words of God, just don't model

your life after them. And then it's his concern about

the fact that they're adding so much to God's words.

So the word of God that they were teaching was true,

the law of God was clear. And then they would say,

but let me tell you what that means. And then

they'd go on for forty five minutes or an hour

or two hours. As matter of fact, there were rooms

full of books that the rabbis wrote about the Book, right,

and we do that today. Where how many Christians do

I know that have read dozens and dozens and dozens

of Christian books but have never read the New Testament? Right? Right?

They read about it, they don't read it, or have

listened to so many podcasts or like us talking about

the Bible rather than actually reading the Bible. And so

what happens is people often begin to take the words

said from guys like us and make them equal to

the words of God. And those aren't the same.

And thank goodness that we actually have God's word on

the podcast, because there are some podcasts that bring up

topics they never read from God's word.

That's right, right, And that's why we want to spend

time in God's work. God's words matter far more than

my opinion about them matter.

Well, I think I said this to you before, but

I've never said this on the podcast. When I preached,

I was I was a young man, and I and

my pastor gave me big church. Right, you know what

big church is, right? We call it big church back then,

because you know, you and I grew up as youths.

So I was in big church and I took a

Sunday moment with all the grown ups and I got

done and I said, how was it? And he said fantastic.

He goes, it was great except for one thing. I

said what, And he goes, it was more about your

words than it was about God's word.

I said, what do you mean. I was very offended

at first.

And he said, it sounds like you had your thoughts

that you wanted to say about what you thought, and

then you just picked random verses to support your thoughts.

You just sprinkled in versus.

To support your thoughts, he said, as opposed to taking

God's word and teaching from the word. Yeah, and he said,

and then and then here's the saying that stood out

to me.

He said.

And he called me brother Chris, because back then, yeah,

that's what they called you in that world. But he said,

he goes, brother Chris. God promises to bless his words,

not yours. And I remember thinking, oh, yeah, that's a

pretty pretty important truth to remember, right, God promises to

bless his words.

That's that's that's that's a blessing that comes with it.

Right, his word will not return void. Right, His word

is powerful, effective, it is, it is. It is given

for training and correction and instruction and training, righteousness, all

that stuff. That's the power of his words. All of

that comes with a blessing. But God doesn't promise to

bless my words.

So why would I build upon me? Right, you're supposed

to build it.

And then ever since then, I've always, you know, tried

my best to say, Okay, this is centered around the

word of God, even if it's a lot of you know,

I've preached.

Whole sermons around one verse. Sure, you know, so it's

not the content.

It is actually like everything's built upon the central truth

of what God says. If everything's built upon that, then

that's where God's word gets the priority.

When when you and I first started working together, you

know what, how long ago, almost five years now and

half before you came on staff, we had some extensive conversations.

Because you came on our team to become the lead

teaching pastor. You took over the whole teaching team. All

of the preaching, most of the messages go through you.

I wrote the series that we just came finished, made new,

but I kept sending it to you and I said,

cristify it. Right, So you're the lead teaching pastor on

a team, so almost everything goes through you. Right now.

Kyle who's been on our podcast, Kyle dobam Meyer, he's

been on the podcast many times. He's helping write this

current message.

Well, I would argue and say he is writing it,

I'm but I'm cristifying it.

Yeah yeah, well yeah, so it flows through you and

that's your role on the team. But we had an

extensive conversations before you came about the idea of the

difference between preaching from God's word and preaching about God's

word and the danger. In our context, we're highly attractional,

we share the Gospel a lot, we're not shy about

being topical. The danger is to preach about God's words

rather than preaching from God's words. So that's a constant

challenge for us. It's what we're constantly teaching our young

preachers to be the is we preach from God's words.

Everything should emanate from what God said, not from our

opinions about what God said. And that's a difficult balance

for preachers, even for people who like the brag about

the fact that they're expository preachers, unless they're only reading

God's words and they don't say anything else. There's also

the danger that they're going to read God's words and

then tell you everything they think about it, and they're

only really preaching about God's word rather than from God's words.

So there's always that danger. So there's a challenge for

those of our listeners that have maybe a little bit

more tenure in the church world. There's an argument about

preaching style. Should it be topical or should it be

expository And topical meaning, you know, we talk about marriage,

we talk about finances, we talk about raising families, we

talk about finding peace, wory angered that's right, and expository

meaning we're going to preach from One Corinthians chapter six today, right,

and we're gonna start at verse one, we're gonna end

at verse twelve. We're gonna just kind of unpack it all.

And the idea of expository preaching sometimes is the opinion

would be that it is superior. I like both yeah,

I like both ways.

Sometimes expository is topical as well.

Well. So here's my argument with this one. Jesus never

ever preached an entire passage. So there's many times he

quotes Jonah, he quotes Genesis, he quotes Deuteronomy, he quotes Isaiah.

But he doesn't quote whole passages, right, so he uses

the part that was necessary in the moment. But what

Jesus did do was expose the text. And that's the point.

So if I'm preaching about God's word, I'm not exposing

the text. I'm just taking I'm using the text as

a proof of what I'm trying to say. But if

I'm exposing the text, then that is expository. Whether I'm

preaching a topical message or what some would view as

a verse by verse expository message, expository preach is always

about exposing the text. And so here Jesus is saying, man,

they love to add so much extra to God's words,

and then they want all the credit. Call me father,

call me rabbi. Right, And that's what Jesus is saying

is their intent is thank you God for your words.

Now let me expand on that. I'm going to make

a bunch of extra rules. I'm going to do a

bunch of extra things, and then I should get all

the credit for it. You know, you should be impressed

with me.

In my brain, in the denomination that I grew up in,

there were a lot of people who were full of themselves.

And before I moved to Michigan, I would say, had

I not met and worked for the church that I

worked for and the people that granted, had I not

met them, I probably would have been one of those

people who thought more highly of myself.

It's an amazing thing.

Now you're super proud of the fact that I've become

so helmbul I'm the most humble.

There's nobody more humble than me.

Yeah, thank god I went.

I win. I win in humility.

No, no, no, it is true because you know how

sometimes you're like you're like you're like, yeah, I'm humble,

and then somebody around you goes, no, you're not.

And I'm not even saying humble.

I'm saying like anything right, Like like I'm not angry,

Yeah you are angry, right, And you're like you're like, no,

I'm telling you right now. You know, it's all these

things where I'm not legalistic. No, you're way more legalistic

than you think you are.

No, I'm not.

It's like you can't see things in yourself. That's what

James tells us, right, we can't see things in ourselves.

And so I think I would have been that kind

of person that thought I had the right perspective on humility,

especially when it came to this exact topic. Like a

preachers who think too highly of themselves, they actually believe

their own press, right, they go into the lobby and

they deliver this great sermon and then let's just say

they have like ten people come up, or twenty people

or thirty people, and they come up and go, dude,

that was one of the best things I've ever heard.

There are actual people who preachers, teachers who will actually

start to believe their own pressure, and they'll actually believe

themselves important. And it's like, yes, of course I'm important

in that in the right perspective, right, like God, God

has asked me to you know, blah blah blah. Hopefully

I have the right perspective. So yeah, I'm important to

a degree. But when you start believing your own press

and you actually believe that you're more important than you are,

there's this arrogance that reeks.

And I'm just saying this.

When I moved to Michigan and I worked for you know,

the lead pastor there and his associates. I am so

incredibly grateful that they taught me almost above anything else,

that that about humility and about like, hey, you're replaceable,

you know, you're keep the right perspective, and so all this,

all these warnings of like, you know, not wanting to

be you know, exonerated and sitting at the at you know,

to be to be the most important person in the room,

just like the rabbis acted. I really truly thank God

for my mentors in my life who demonstrate humility to

such a degree to where now I recognize it in

other people when people start to think of themselves important

and I just sniff it that quick, you know, and

I'm just like, gosh, do you actually think you're that important?

Because you're not, and neither am I.

Right, God, God gives the increase, like we talked about, right,

God's the one. It's it's God. It's all about God.

And by the way, when it comes to you know,

remember you said preaching about God's word as opposed to

preaching God's word.

Somebody told me a long long time ago.

In fact, I heard at a conference and he said,

just ask yourself this question. Whenever you have a truth

that you're teaching, whenever you have a point or a

sub point or anything else, he goes, ask yourself, is

that does that? Is that exactly what the scripture says?

Like?

Does your point come directly from that passage or that verse?

Right?

Like is that true?

Are you exposing the meaning or.

Is it like a close cousin or are you trying

to you know, ay, did you find a verse that

kind of.

Heard an entire message preached on and it came to pass?

So it's a nice sentiment, right, it's not here to stay.

It came to pass. But that is never the point

behind those those unless you're unless you're you're preaching about

the Bible, you're not preaching from the Bible.

I can imagine that being biblical in a certain way,

and I can imagine most sermons about that not.

Yeah, yeah, most of it. Right. So then he ends

it with this idea, the greatest among you must be

a servant. This is how you know he's talking about

heart intent. They loved adding way more than what God

had to say. And then he goes listen instead of

being this prideful guy that is blowing people's minds with

how they talk and then expecting them to call you

father a rabbi. He said, the greatest among you is

going to be a servant. Right, those who exalt themselves

will be humbled, but those who humble themselves will be exalted.

And so the greatest leaders are those who take a

position of servanthood. First, a few years ago, several years ago,

I had somebody who had been attending our church for

a couple of months, probably six months, finally came and said, Hey,

I'm a little confused. You know, you know my past,

you know where I came from, and I'm surprised I

haven't been invited to be on the board because they

were significantly the chairman of the board in another place.

And so what do you have to do to be

on the board here? And I said, well, what ministry

are you in? He said, oh, well, we haven't you know,

we've just been kind of resting. We haven't gotten a mystery.

I said, what are you leading a small group? Who

are you discipling in our church? I said, dude, we

have no room for you on the board. If you

can't come in and serve, don't you come and demand

to have a place of leadership, because the greatest among

us are the servants among us. Right, So we find

our leaders, we find those that can guide the rest

of our congregation from those who are serving the congregation, right,

and then all the other biblical qualifications that come along

with that. But this is the beginning, is the greatest

among us are those who are serving Jesus washing the

feet right.

Right.

So these guys wanted to just preach and then get

all the credit, but they weren't serving, and Jesus goes,

that makes me sick. They're a bunch of hypocrites, right, yeah.

And they they say it, they don't do it, and

that that's literally what it says. They're not they're not

living what they preach.

Right.

And it's all about the heart, right, which is why

last podcast we talked about Jesus says, this is the

work that's required of you. Believe right, got to change

your heart. He'll change you from the inside out.

That's right.

That's great.

Well, hey, that's a good place to end, and so

hopefully we will see you tomorrow on the Bible.

Guys,