“Go and Make Disciples of All Nations” | Matthew 28:16–20

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My name is Chris, and it's going to be an

amazing episode today. Chris, it is because this is the

first one of the week.

You have to say your name.

I'm Jeff. There you go say that we have this

cool I'm je behind us. You've got a star over

your head because you're a star.

I am a star.

I'm a star.

Hey. By the way, this morning, just this morning, I

got three texts. So it's nine am on a Wednesday.

We're filming this.

Three texts. I said, you're a star.

No, I got three texts saying that apparently the Bible

Guys episode that aired this morning. One was from Russia.

I got a text from Russia of saying of somebody

saying that.

They appreciate their watching you.

They said that, yes, but they said they appreciated me

saying that Lazarus came out of the tune with jazz hands.

Yeah, it was three texts this morning. Well, that's the

deep stuff to everybody's Bible study of promotional material is

jazz hands.

You're welcome everybody.

That's awesome.

So it is going to be a great day. And

the reason why we have stars over our heads is

because the set behind us is set up for kids

camp at Heritage Church. Yeah.

Yeah, this kind of our big vacation Bible school during

the during the summer, and we had like five hundred

kids last night.

Or some crazy things crazy.

Yeah, So they're using this stage and then we just

pop in in the middle of the day to shoot

this podcast.

We're borring it.

This will be for the next couple weeks. I think

it'll be up for our listeners.

That's great.

So well, hey, we have a segment that Desiree gave us,

and this is one of our it's the only one

that has a theme song. It does ready mail bag,

and it's our listeners send in comments or questions or

critiques and complaints mostly yes, disagreements with the crazy Bible guys,

and Desiree kind of filters through those and puts one

out for us and then we get to answer it.

So this one today is from Amanda b Amanda, be

Hi Amanda, and it says you both strike me as

open books. Thanks Amanda, comic books. I think probably is, Yeah,

what do you are?

You a sophisticated novel and I'm a comic book?

Is that what it is? You know? I say comic books?

It was plural, So.

I'm multiple books and like the Great gats mean or something. Okay,

I get.

It, Crime and Punishment, I get it. Here you go.

You both strike me as open books. But is there

something you wish people saw or understood about you that

they really usually don't? Yeah, that's a Mannes's question. So,

you know, it seems like we're fairly transparent. So which

is the ruse we've been keeping up for quite some time?

I do have something instinctively that Kim comes to mind. Okay,

so you and I both are the same personality profile

type in a lot of ways, right, Yes, in a

lot of ways. We have the same spiritual gifts, same

personality profile type, which is kind of funny.

The fact that the world got two of us, just

one of them is really it's what a blessing, What

an age to be living in.

You're welcome, You're welcome everybody. Yeah, it's pretty bad. So,

but we are according to the Myers Briggs In case

you're familiar, with that is we are e n tpis

in which stands for extrovert intuitive thinker and then perceiver.

That's correct, right, Yes, Now what is the percentage? Isn't

isn't it a rare type?

Yeah, it's like two to three percent of the population

has that.

Yeah, two to three percent.

Think about that, like, wow, that's a lot, right, so

or it's small.

No, No, I meant. I meant like, that's a lot

to take.

It's a lot to take in.

Yeah, a lot to take it. It is what I

meant anyway. So the point is is that because of

our personality profile type, somebody on the that might interact

with me, maybe on a leadership level or you know,

behind the scenes, or you know, maybe if we're working

on projects together. Uh, we don't necessarily come across as

the most emotional people. But yet I feel every emotion, right, So,

like even in my interactions, uh, you know, like I'll

respond to something and and and and they may say, well, wow,

you're not as sensitive and you don't think about these emotions.

Whatever.

The e NTP personality profile, the high thinker can come

across that way. But I actually believe or not, I

wish people knew that you know and you know this

about me, like I have a ton of.

Emotion, yes, yes, right, you know that. Yeah yeah, yeah,

Well you're you're you're an emotional person.

Yes.

I think the e NTP part of it for you

because your your emotions are out there. Everybody knows. You're

quick to cry, you're quick to laugh. Yeah, you live

your entire life in hyperbole. It's all big or little.

It's it's the best or the worst. Right, So, so

the emotion side is there the differ diferences for an EMTP.

We're not shy about being very direct because of the

efficiency of it, because we're not offended when people are

direct with us, right, My fact we prefer people to

be direct with us. That's right, is my fact. That

was going to be my thing is I think I

think I would prefer people to be direct with me

and it's not offensive as long as you're coming in

with a good attitude. I prefer people to be direct,

and I think sometimes people misunderstand our directness. So I

think you are much more emotional and that's that has

to do with all the other things. It's not like

you stuffed down your emotions like I do. Instead, I

think it's just that you you also are willing to

be direct because you want to make it better. So

you're like, hey, this is awful, let's fix it. And

you don't mean you're an awful person. You're saying, this

product is awful, let's make this product better, right, And

you're not shy about being direct on that, And I

think that that feels like you're heartless and you're not.

You've got like the biggest heart in the world.

Chris, I appreciate that, man, Thank you.

Yeah, that was hyperbole.

I was I was just gonna say, I was just

gonna say that's a little overstatement.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I was gonna say. The other thing

is I wish I wish people understood about me that

sometimes I talk fast and and quote a lot of scripture,

so it sounds like I know what I'm doing, But

really I just want somebody to bring me tacos. Hey.

We did have people show up and heard in church

and bring you uh for what is it called?

And then uh yeah, yeah that was right. This week.

They were sitting on my on my table in my

office when I came in, so it was great. Somebody

brought me one yesterday too, it was super nice. So

keeping coming people.

Let's keep going.

I meant to say thank you. I meant to say

thank you.

Right right, right, but I'm talking to the list now.

Somehow you've managed this living in tacos.

Yeah, that's right, So the bring me tacos. That's so.

The other thing I wish people would know is I

have a high level of satisfaction with setting goals and

accomplishing goals. And because then you know this, I measure everything.

I measure everything, yes, so I know exactly what the

trend has been, and then I just try to move

the needle a couple percentage points on a trend. I'm

satisfied when we hit that trend. We keep moving on.

Just move along, move along, movement. And so what happens

I forget to celebrate, and I forget to go tell

people how amazing they are and thank you and that

you've made this happen and you know, all those things

that I forget to celebrate, and so I kind of

leave people in the dust, sometimes unintentionally.

And to be fair, most unfortunately, most leaders forget to celebrate. Yeah, yeah,

most strong leaders forget to celebrate.

Yeah. And in the church world, the kind of work

we do. Sunday comes every seven days. I don't know

if our listeners have ever contemplated that, right, but Sunday

comes every seven days. So it's just bang bang bang

bang bang. You know, if this was a Broadway show

that we were doing, we would do the exact same

thing with the same line. It's in the same moves,

the same lighting, and the same songs for weeks and

weeks and months and months and months. And instead every

message is brand new the next weekend. Every song that

is done wasn't done last week, right, all the stuff

that we do, and so there's a lot of chaos

in trying to make every weekend happen in a meaningful

way for thousands and thousands of people.

And not to mention creative ideas incepting from scratch.

And of course we rely on the Holy Spirit to

guide us with regard to our messages, and we invite

him into the planning and all those things. But as

we're racing along, sometimes it can feel like we forget.

And so that's the thing I wish people knew how much,

how incredibly grateful I am for the fact that they've

joined us on this mission and they're making it happen together.

It's really great. But I forget. I forget to say

thank you a.

Lot great answers.

Oh, that's wonderful. And I just want tacos.

And yeah, and somehow I always want to talk to

he doesn't want.

To talk exactly that deep down inside. Yeah, if you

want to know that secret thing deep done inside. We

just want tacos.

So we're read at our time. Actually we're about a

minute past our time. But what's your favorite taco place

in the area?

My tacos. I love those pork tacos I make with

the Oh.

Oh, but if somebody were to bring you tacos, what's

your favorite?

Oh, I don't know. I don't I don't even have

a favorite taco place here.

You just like all tacos. Yeah, okay, all right, all right,

just just asking so for the sake of our listeners.

Yes, well, hey, uh boy, I don't even know what

transition for this.

One, speaking of.

Going out and finding tacos.

Finding tacos, Jesus commands us to go out and find disciples.

Oh yeah, that is terrible. Yeah, yeah, it's a terrible transition. Well,

that does come up here in Matthew chapter twenty eight.

It does one of the this is like the last

thing Jesus is saying. These are the last orders he

gives us before he goes back, known as.

The Great Commission. And wouldn't you think that somebody's last

words would be important?

I would imagine. Yeah. Well, in the military, they have

the principle of the last standing orders. So whatever the

last order you got, you're supposed to keep doing that

until you get a new order.

I know you're going to complete this, but complete this

the rest of this quote.

Okay.

My father's final words were.

Oh, yeah, yeah, Yeah, there's Princess Bride. Yeah, ye, Prince humperdink.

I don't know. I can't remember. Love her, yes, as

I have loved her, and and there will be peace

in the land. No joy, joy, love.

As I've loved her, and there will be joy.

Okay. So here we are in Matthew chapter twenty eight. Yep,

and we're going to start in verse sixteen. Just read

to the end of the chapter. It says, then the

eleven disciples left for Galilee. Do you remember Jesus had

died and risen I do remember that Judas is out

of the picture. Now he killed himself, and so now

there's only eleven disciples, yep. And so then the eleven

disciples left for Galilee, going to the mountain where Jesus

had told them to go. When they saw him, they

worshiped him, but some of them doubted. Jesus came and

told his disciples, I have been given all authority in

heaven and on earth. Therefore go and make disciples of

all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father

and the Son and the Holy Spirit. And teach these

new disciples to obey all the commands I've given you.

And be sure of this. I am with you always,

even to the end of the age.

Yeah, so very quick, A very quick what five verses?

But I have to say this the thing that always

sticks out when I read this, and it's only recorded

here in Matthew obviously, but it says the eleven disciples.

Now we all know that every follower of Jesus is

referred to as a disciple.

That's correct.

And the twelve that were chosen have the title of apostle.

So not all disciples are apostles, but all apostles are

also disciples. That's correct, because disciples are just simple followers

of him. So sometimes in the Bible, when they say

his disciples followed him, they can refer to the crowds

of followers. But in this case, this is my point.

In this case, he's referring to the eleven. Yes, right, yes,

So he says, the eleven disciples for Galilee went to

the mountainside where Jesus had told him to go. When

they saw him, they worshiped him, but some of them doubted.

So clearly he's not talking about the crowd of disciples.

He is saying that some of the eleven doubted. And

that always floors me because this is, you know, some

of Jesus's last words, which means he's on the back

end of his forty days here, right, So Jesus is

on the back end. He's already risen. He's already appeared

to the disciples. He's already told Thomas, come and touch

my you know, hands and my side. He's already appeared

with people, walked with people, you know, he made fish,

you know, breakfast for them. He's given forgiveness to Peter,

he's taught I mean, goodness, gracious, how can the eleven

still doubt?

Well? Do you think it says some Do you think

that this because Matthew does not tell the story of

doubting Thomas.

Oh wow, I never had that thought before.

Right, So he doesn't tell the story of Thomas.

So you think Matthew is just summarizing.

And a bunch of other stuff happened by the way

Thomas doubted. And then he moves on because he leaves

out every kind of stuff there. Wow, because it literally

goes from the religious leaders are bribing the guards. Yeah,

then there's forty days, yeah, and then Jesus is going

back to heaven.

Right, yeah, they go They go literally straight from bribing

the guards to Jesus' last word.

Yeah. Because Matthew's purpose was different than the others, right,

So Matthew's just trying to establish that Jesus Matthew wrote

to the Jews explaining that Jesus was the Messiah. That's right,

And so the other things he leaves out different things

that don't drive rate at that exact idea. So the

death barrel resurrection happened. Now he goes back to having

gives us ob mission. The other things aren't really part

of his narrative.

And Luke wrote primarily to the gentiles.

To the gentiles.

Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, So imagine that. Imagine these writers

who recording the Gospels, and one of them is directed

specifically at you know, good Jewish boys and ladies who

grew up and completely know the Jewish customs, you know,

believers of the Old Testament, the Old Testament God, the

Law of Moses. They knew like the back of their hand.

And and Matthew is connecting the dots right and then

and then people like gentiles, which is everybody who's non Jewish,

they grew up not knowing necessarily the Law of Moses,

not practicing hardly anything. So a lot of the stuff

you'll see in Matthew you don't see in Luke. But

Luke was a doctor, right, Yes, So Luke was very precise,

he was very technical, and he's the guy who like

unpacks empirical evidence. He's the guy who has like full explanations,

and he's the one that's trying to convince the non believer,

in the non Jewish person that Jesus is the Messiah.

And Matthew Levi was a tax collector, yes, and so

he has kind of a it's almost like a checklist

when you read his thing, he goes and then he

did this, and then he did this, and then he

did this, and then he did this. Right, that's what

he's doing. He's kind of checking off the Jewish checklist

of this is why he's a Messiah, and this is

why he's Messiah, and this is why he's Messiah. Right.

So they both have a lot of precision in the

way that they write. It's just the pacing of Matthews

isn't always in the storytelling of it as much as

it is the factual evidence that this guy is the Messiah.

So I think that this is just referencing Thomas. This

is what I think it is. Because it also doesn't

mention the fact that Jesus came to Peter when Peter

was fishing in Jesus fixing breakfast on the side of

the thing. It doesn't mentioned the disciples on the road

to Mas that Jesus came and taught, right, there's all

those other things. There's a lot of things missing in

that in the gap between verse was it fifteen and

verse sixteen.

So so there's there's there's one that answer that explanation,

which I've not heard before either came from one of

four places. Either A you've heard that before in a sermon.

No, I just thought of it. B.

Well, you didn't even let me say all four.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I was gonna say b's.

Gonna say B B you just thought of it. Yes,

uh C you studied it in the past and discovered

it yourself.

No, I've never contemplated it.

Or D I was going to say there was a

note in your life up.

No, Nope, there's It's just I'd never really thought about

it before. But wow, Actually, here's how it works. You

say a thing and I immediately try to figure out

why it's wrong in everything and everything and every dingy yeah, yeah, everything.

You come in this morning, Hey, good morning. I'm like,

it wasn't that good of a morning.

Wow. Listen, you just said a minute ago you ranb

off scripture and you speak quickly, so people think you

know what you're doing right, But in the end, you

just want tacos.

Just a simple guy.

Guy. That's so funny, Dude, that's funny.

So okay, that's ridiculous. Anyways, I think it's You're right.

It is amazing because it's the sentence by itself says

when they saw him, they worshiped him, but some of

them doubted, right, And that sentence is crazy. But what

we feel like is they're going to the mountain where

Jesus had told them to go, and we feel like

this doubt happens right before he speaks at the mountain,

right right, And I just I'm not sure I believe

that that's what's happening there.

Well, yeah, because I mean think about it. I mean

just I mean, you already said it already, but think

about the plethora of him information that is not even

talked about. It is it is being summarized in a

couple sentences.

And so this is why studying the Bible so much fun,

because the Bible explains itself. It's its own best commentary.

So when you read all four narratives Matthew, Mark, Luke,

and John, and then you read the first couple chapters

of Acts, you kind of know you understand how all

these things are working. And they cross reference each other

and explain each other a little bit. So anyways, the

big point here is that Jesus says, I've been given

all authority in heaven and on earth. Why because of

his death, buryl and resurrection, right, he paid the price.

God says, Okay, you are the name above every name.

Later on we find out at the name of Jesus,

every knee is going to about and heaven and on

earth under the earth.

Right, you know what that reminds me of? By the way, sorry,

I had the instrument of this thought. You ever see

Brian Reagan, my favorite comedian. Yes, he actually says, the

most lazy writing in the world is the phrase and

then one thing led to another.

That's a great one, yeah, he says, he says, He

says in nineteen or he goes at the late eighteen hundreds,

there was a little boy born named Adolf Hitler, and

he goes, and one thing led to another dot dot dot,

and then the United States dropped it at.

And Bob on Japan.

Yeah. One thing led to another, right, Yeah, one thing

led to another. And there's so much in the middle

of that.

Well, that's what Matthew's doing, right.

This is one of the things that's part of the

beauty of why God gave four gospels. Yeah, that's right, right,

is that each of them is appealing to a different

thinker in a different worldview. When you collectively put them together,

they tell many of the same stories, many the same events.

Then they all tell different events that the others don't

really cover very much, and then they give it from

different eyewitness accounts. You know, if you and I were

standing on the sidewalking we both saw a car accident,

we would see it in a different way. We would

remember different facts. And so when the police come and

they're doing an investigation, they want you and me to

give the facts the way we saw them. But what

they're looking for is the differences in our facts so

they can piece the whole story together. Right, if we

came and gave the exact same storyline, it would sound

like we rehearsed it, like we planned it right, like

we colluded together. But when you get when you get

these different writers and they're writing it from different perspectives,

you begin to realize, Okay, they're not colluding. They saw

the same thing, they experienced the same thing. So Jesus says,

I've been given all authority in heaven on earth, And

he says, because of that, therefore, anytime you read the

word therefore. I used to have a professor say, any

time you read the word therefore, you should pause and

try to figure out what that's there for. That's right,

because something big happened right before. That's right, right. So

we all quote pat pastors love quoting the next verse,

But the reality is the power of the next verse

is in the verse before. I've been given all authority.

So since I'm in charge and I've been given all

authority because of that, now I want you to go

and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them, tone the

Father's son in the Holy Spirit, and teach these new

believers to obey all the commands they've given you. And

so he's given us a mission. The last thing Jesus said,

you would think Jesus on his way to heaven, you

think he'd say, hey, guys, it's going to be okay.

I'm gonna come back and get you someday. Hang in there, guys,

you yeah, hang in there, guys. Right, you can do

all things through me, right right, that's what you think

he'd say. That's that's what we're wanting him to say.

We certainly don't want him give us a job, right right.

We want him to tell us all our wild this

dreams are going to come true now that he's going

to heaven. And he said he says, I've got a

job for you. Go make disciples. You want to know

what I have? People ask me all the time, Jeff,

I'm just not sure what I'm supposed to I've been

a Christian for all these years. I still don't feel

like God's really spoken to me. I don't know what

I'm supposed to do with my life. And I'm like

I do if he hasn't spoken anything else, go make disciples.

That's what you're supposed to do. Yeah, yeah, And it's not.

Just making disciples, it's making disciple makers. Yes, that's right, right,

because we have disciples who make disciples. And so here

we are on the back end of it, two thousand

years later, where you know, if if they would have

just stopped right just by making disciples and then saying, Okay,

we've done our job, We've committed the assignment, right, But

that's not what happened. The gospel continued to, you know,

spread from the Middle East all the way to where

we are here in Michigan through generations of people, and

since then, billions of people have crossed over and they've

become a disciple, and many of them have made disciples, right,

And so yeah, that's what God wants us to do.

He wants disciples making disciples who make disciples. So we

are disciple makers, that's what we are.

And so you have to understand that at this point,

we know this. If you turn the pages a couple

of pages, go to Acts chapter one, there were one

hundred and twenty people in the Upper Room praying, waiting

for the Holy Spirit. So it's about one hundred and

twenty disciples, right. The twelve apparently made ten apiece, right, Yeah, somehow,

So there's one hundred and twenty disciples. They're in the

Upper Room, they're praying from there. Every other disciple that's

ever followed Jesus ever since, every one of our listeners

that claims to be a follower of Jesus, that's a Christian.

All of us come from those one hundred and twenty

that were in the Upper Room on that day. And

so God's goal, Jesus' goal in this moment was everybody

who's not yet needs to be right. Heaven's real, Hell

is real. This is He's going back into eternity in

this moment, and He's like, man, I wanted to bring

everybody I can with me, so I need you guys

to go. You have a mission. While you're here on earth.

You have a mission. And I mentioned this before, it's

kind of funny. We tend to think Christianity's about us,

Salvation's about us, God's blessings are all about us, and

it's just kind of almost maybe it's a hint at

the narcissistic world we live in that it's all focused

on us. But think about that for a minute, that

the Gospel has been moving from disciple to disciple to

disciple for two thousand years, and for two thousand years,

it's been traveling from person to person at great peril

and great risk for many of them, people being put

in prison, people being executed, martyred because of the gospel.

And yet they just kept doing it. They kept taking

the gospel. So then what happens? It gets to you

and God goes it finally made it to Jeff, there

we did it. That's done.

Yeah, right right?

Instead of understanding the gospel came to me and you

on the way to someone else, right right, It can't

possibly in this incredible two thousand year thread of God

working miracles, Surely his intent was not for the thread

that got to me to end with me. It's supposed

to go on to our family, our friends, and this

is what Jesus is saying. So I think a lot

of times people have an understanding that they're supposed to

be sharing the gospel, they just haven't developed the skill set.

I think that that's really really important. You've got to

begin knowing God's word and learning how to share the

gospel so that people can respond.

Yeah, and you don't have to be a scholar to

do that. No, all you have to do is just

know your story. Yeah, you can just say, hey, there's

three parts of every great conversion story, which is, hey,

here's all I know. I know that this is where

I was before I met Jesus, and then here's how

I met Jesus, and now my life is better because

of Jesus. Right, And that holds true whether your life

was tragic or whether your life was going fantastic, but

yet there was an emptiness inside.

And I always encourage people in that middle part, here's

how I met Jesus. A lot of people say I

went to church and got baptized, and now I'm a Christian,

as opposed to you discovered that you were a sinner

that needed a savior. Right that that part is what

your friend needs to hear is that we're all sinners

and we all need to be saved, we all need

to be rescued by Jesus, right, And then scripture is

super important in that as well. But yeah, that's it,

learning how to tell your story in God's story.

That's great. Well, hey, that is a great discussion on

the Great Commission. So hopefully we will see you tomorrow

on the Bible.

Guys,