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Should We Still Follow Old Testament Laws?

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  97. series called Stump the Pastor and a lot of these

  98. questions have been written in just this past week.

  99. Really good questions, yes, really good questions.

  100. Great questions. So this question starts with Logan c Hi logan,

  101. and Logan says, why do we still why do we

  102. still not follow the traditional holidays of the Old Testament?

  103. Lent I know is still prevalent, although the name itself,

  104. I'm uncertain if that's a modern term for it. However,

  105. others have been left behind. Uh Is it a matter

  106. of their connections to the Old Testament rituals, acts or

  107. something different? It's great, it's a great question.

  108. Good question.

  109. So, in other words, what you're saying is there are

  110. observations that were laid out in the Old Testament by

  111. God and and uh and and and they were commanded

  112. to observe different things, right, right, right? What was that?

  113. What was that hut that people make?

  114. Oh, come on, tabernacle? No, no, thestacles.

  115. No, No, I'm not referring to that. I'm referring to

  116. people still make it. They there's a little hot they

  117. put the things up, and it's a it's a it's

  118. a it's like a it's like a structure. It's referred

  119. to something. It's in a Jewish costure.

  120. They do it every year, called the Feast of Tabernacles,

  121. is it? Yes?

  122. Okay, but isn't there a name for the hut? Yeah? Okay,

  123. I'm I'm gonna look at I'm looking ahead.

  124. Anyways, So I think this is a really great question.

  125. This means that that Logan's been kind of paying attention

  126. to the Bible a little bit. God gave all these instructions.

  127. He said, Hey, you're supposed to celebrate Passover. You're supposed

  128. to celebrate the feast of unleaven bread. You're supposed to

  129. celebrate the feast of first Fruits. You're supposed to celebrate

  130. the Feast of Pentecosts. Right, there's all these feasts, these

  131. these religious holidays that the Jews were supposed to to celebrate.

  132. And so his question is why don't we celebrate that anymore? Now,

  133. let's go back. First of all, because he mentions Lent specifically,

  134. So Lent is not a Bible holiday.

  135. It's called a suka Suka. It's called a suka okay.

  136. It's a temporary hut or booths that Jewish people build

  137. during the festival of Suka, known as the Feast of Tabernacles.

  138. Spam.

  139. So you so you were right on the on the

  140. and I just wasn't occasion.

  141. I wasn't using the Hebrew words.

  142. Yeah, I knew it was called something. Anyway, go ahead,

  143. keep going.

  144. So Lent was not a Bible instructed holiday or event, right,

  145. So Lent is a fast that came up. We just

  146. talked about this this passive.

  147. Ironically, like three days ago.

  148. Yeah. So the idea of fasting giving up something typically food,

  149. is a Biblical idea, and that would be to show

  150. God that you were serious. And it's also to hold

  151. back your your flesh so you can dial into the

  152. spirit more all those kinds. There's lots of reasons for it.

  153. The idea of fasting between for the forty days leading

  154. up to Easter comes from forty days. Jesus faster for

  155. forty days, Moses fast for forty days, Elijah past forty days.

  156. So this was a thing and then they would have

  157. this fast leading towards Easter. To prepare themselves to be

  158. ready to celebrate the death, burrel and resurrection of Christ.

  159. And also, quite honestly, through medieval times, it was so

  160. that I would suffer to experience the suffering of Jesus,

  161. thinking that there's a little bit of paying for your

  162. own sins through the suffer. Yeah, go ahead, yeah, I was.

  163. Just gonna say. And then they eventually somewhere around the

  164. thirteenth century implemented ash Wednesday, which was a preparation of suffering,

  165. which is why they put ashes on their head. And

  166. it came from job ashes to ashes, right, I came

  167. out of my mother's womb, come back, and it's a

  168. sign of lamenting, just preparing for the crucifixion of Jesus.

  169. And so that's not a biblical thing. It's just a

  170. thing that the Church began to make a thing.

  171. The Catholic turn.

  172. Now we do know even before the Catholic Church existed

  173. in the three hundreds, some Christians of the de Decay

  174. explains it, even in the first century, some Christians were

  175. doing fasts like this. And as a matter of fact,

  176. you know, Christianity was begun when Latin was a big thing.

  177. Latin comes just after Jesus and Carnival is the big

  178. celebration before the feast or before the fast. Right, Garne

  179. in Latin means meat like carne asada whatever. Yeah, and

  180. valet means no no more okay, so no more meat.

  181. That's why we're having a big party today. We're gonna

  182. go buck wild today because there's no more meat for

  183. the next forty days. That's where it came from.

  184. Gosch.

  185. Now it's turned into crazy stuff, but you know, that's

  186. where it came from. And so those are just they're

  187. just tradition. They're not Bible, right, but passover, feast of

  188. on leaving bread, feast of first fruits, feast of Pentecost,

  189. feasts of the tabernacles.

  190. Which was probably let me just wrap up the let

  191. me button up the Lent thing by saying, so many

  192. people today, like myself included, grew up, you know, fasting

  193. from certain things like oh, fast from chocolate, right, raw,

  194. fast from dessert.

  195. No meat, that's why you only eat fish, eat.

  196. Yeah, I did you ever heard Jim Gaffigan talk about that?

  197. And he goes, he goes no meat on Fridays unless

  198. you forget. But anyway, but the point is is that

  199. that that's not that's not the bod definition of fasting, right.

  200. The only, the only definition of fasting in the Bible

  201. is to go without food, right, although I don't think

  202. that going. You know, if you if you fast from

  203. something as a demonstration of sacrifice, it is a is

  204. always a good thing, right, because it reminds us it's

  205. the same heart, which is to pray, to go to

  206. God when you when you're tempted, when you're hungry, when

  207. you're whatever. It is. Right.

  208. The core of Logan's question really is why don't we

  209. follow the Old Testament?

  210. That we were about to get it right?

  211. So we dealt with lent for a little while. That's

  212. the core is why don't deal with the Old Testament? Ones?

  213. And the simple answer is this, Logan, all of the

  214. festivals that God commanded as holy days to be set apart,

  215. we're all pointing to Jesus. They were all shadows pointing

  216. to Jesus in some way. And for instance, the passover

  217. pointed to Jesus. Death is the lamb of God. We

  218. know that's true. One quent, chapter five seven tells us

  219. that the feast above unleavened bread high lighted his sinless

  220. body that was going to be sacrificed for us. It's

  221. what is in our communion. This is my body which

  222. is given for you. Right. The feast of first Fruits

  223. represents his resurrection. We know this because Paul tells us

  224. in First Corinthians chapter fifteen, verse twenty, that Jesus is

  225. the first fruits of God. The feast of pentecosts is

  226. was the celebration of the idea that the spirit of

  227. God was going to come. This happens in Acts chapter

  228. two on Pentecost Sunday, right, And so so all the

  229. feasts pointed to Jesus. And so in Colossus chapter three,

  230. I've pulled clastions chapter two, I pulled this up verse sixteen.

  231. It's says he's trying to explain to them, don't feel

  232. bad about what you're choosing to eat or not eat whenever.

  233. Don't feel bad about the holy days. Here's what he says.

  234. So don't let anyone condemn you for what you eat

  235. or drink, or for not celebrating certain holy days. For

  236. these rules are only shadows of the reality yet to come,

  237. and Christ himself is that reality. So when we say

  238. that we don't have to celebrate the feast because Jesus

  239. fulfilled all the feasts. That's not just us connecting dots.

  240. That's literally what Paul says in the Bible. And so

  241. in what is it? Is it the Book of Romans

  242. where I had it written out here in the Book

  243. of Romans, where the Bible says that Jesus is the

  244. fulfillment of the law. In Matthew, Jesus said I didn't

  245. come to certainly end of the law. He says, I

  246. can to fulfill the law. And then then Romans says,

  247. Jesus fulfills the law of God. And so now it's

  248. called the New Covenant. That was the old Covenant. The

  249. old Covenant was all of these traditions pointing to Jesus. Now,

  250. because Jesus is here, you and I, because of the Cross,

  251. because of the resurrection, we live under what the Bible

  252. calls the new covenant. Covenant just means contract right, the

  253. new Covenant. And so in Hebrews chapter thirteen, the author

  254. of Hebrews is connecting the old beliefs of the Hebrews

  255. to the new resolved solutions that Jesus brings. So he's

  256. writing it from a theological standpoint. And the author says

  257. in Hebrews eight thirteen, when God speaks of a new covenant,

  258. it means he has made the first one obsolete.

  259. Right by the way, it's Romans ten to four.

  260. Oh, there you go.

  261. Christ is the culmination of the law, so that there

  262. may be righteousness for everyone who believes right.

  263. And so in Romans it tells us that the law

  264. was just to show us that we couldn't perfectly keep

  265. it right right. It was a teacher for us. And

  266. he's talking specifically about the religious laws. I think we should.

  267. This is a great point opportunity to pivot over to

  268. his second question. Jogan has another question because now we're

  269. shifting into the laws. Jesus fulfilled all the feasts, and

  270. then he says, the new contract, the new covenant means

  271. he suspended the old covenant. That's what it means. But

  272. now we got to get into the laws because there's

  273. three different kinds of laws. Yep.

  274. And then he says his second question is he said,

  275. why have traditional Jews that don't recognize Jesus' coming for

  276. its legitimacy discontinued the practice of ritual sacrifice. That is

  277. his second question.

  278. Yeah, this is a great question Logan one. The ritual

  279. sacrifice required, the arc of the covenant required, the altar required,

  280. the temple. But the last temple was destroyed in seventy

  281. eight by the Romans, right just as Jesus. Jesus said prophesied,

  282. it happened, it happened, so they wiped it out. So

  283. there has been no temple for those sacrifices. They dream

  284. of it, they desire it. On the Temple Mountain Jerusalem.

  285. You've been to the Temple mount under Jerusalem. The Western

  286. Wall is still there. Sometimes they call it the whaling

  287. Wall because they'll go.

  288. The Dome of the Rock.

  289. They place prairie quests in there, into the cracks and

  290. they weep over the place. Because this is the last

  291. vestige of where the temple was.

  292. It would be the most they would view that as

  293. the most sacred spot in Judaism.

  294. So on top of that mount, because that's just the

  295. foundation to the Temple mount on top there's the Alaksa

  296. Mosque and the Dome of the Rock sit there that

  297. if you ever see a picture of Jerusalem, that's that

  298. gold domed thing, and that's a Muslim holy place. And

  299. so there is no temple there because the dome of

  300. the Rock sits where the temple was.

  301. Mohammed was on a donkey. Did you know this. Yes,

  302. he's on a donkey and he jumps on a rock

  303. and he kind of pulled straight up into.

  304. Heaven right and leaves his footprint there.

  305. That's the belief.

  306. Yeah, and they also believe that Abraham had some impact there.

  307. So yeah, it's like the third holiest place in Islam.

  308. And so you have this problem between the Jews who

  309. want to build their temple again and the Muslims that

  310. are keeping their temple or their their mosque in their

  311. their holy place there. So so there is no there's

  312. no sacrifices anymore because there is no temple to sacrifice in,

  313. there's no arc of the Covenant, there's no there's no altar.

  314. And so instead they went to Rabbinic Judaism, which is

  315. similar to the kind of Judaism that that Daniel would

  316. have worshiped in because the first temple, Salomis Temple, had

  317. been destroyed, and so when he's in Babylon, they there's

  318. this sacrifice of the heart, sacrifice of the spirit and

  319. building around prayer and a heart felt sacrifice towards God

  320. is what they did. And then now there's no temple again,

  321. and that's what they're doing, is this rabbinic thing there.

  322. But beyond that, you know, there is this question about, well,

  323. what about the laws? Then? If God made laws about

  324. about feasts and holy days and we don't celebrate those

  325. anymore because God suspended those, and then God made laws

  326. about sacrifice and we don't do those anymore because God

  327. suspended those, then what laws are we supposed to keep?

  328. What laws are are we supposed to just throw off

  329. all the law? No more law?

  330. Right?

  331. Right? So what do you have to say about that?

  332. Well, I would just say that Jesus came to fulfill

  333. all the loss. So, just like you said, every single

  334. ritual for instance, even like the Passover. So you and

  335. I we we have a Passover feast that is presented

  336. to us by our elders of our church, right and.

  337. And by our residents, any anybody that's studying for ministry

  338. with us. They helped put it together, which is kind

  339. of neat.

  340. We've done that for the last several years, and and

  341. so and and by the way, a Passover traditional Passover

  342. feast is very very symbolic in and of itself. It's

  343. not necessarily a great meal, right right, but it's it's

  344. but it's symbolic. So you're chewing on bitters and and uh,

  345. crackers and crackers and different things that necessarily you wouldn't say, Wow,

  346. this is great.

  347. But it was not crackers.

  348. It's matsa matza mazza bread. But you're basically doing everything

  349. symbolically for a reason, as instructed by God, very specifically,

  350. because every single peace again, just like you said earlier,

  351. was looking forward to the Messiah, the solution of sin. Well.

  352. To be honest, ever, every time, uh not every time,

  353. I just lost my train of thought. Jesus was the

  354. fulfillment of the reason why God put into motion the

  355. observance of the passover.

  356. Right, and it's it's okay to observe the passover. There's

  357. nothing wrong with that.

  358. There's nothing wrong with it. Not which is which as

  359. we did. Yeah, it's not, it's not it's not required

  360. because Jesus said, hey, I'm the fulfillment of this. This

  361. is my body which is broken for you. This is

  362. why you've been doing this for thousands of years since Moses. Right,

  363. every time you've poured out the cup and you've done

  364. it once a year. You know, this is the fulfillment

  365. of of This is my blood being poured out. You

  366. know that they they thought that they that it was

  367. just you know, some sort of a tree you of

  368. Moses and the Angel of Death passing over. But it's

  369. really everything's pointing to Jesus. Right, So the so the

  370. blood on the posts, everything, so anyway, not just the

  371. Passover feast, but every single holiday is is you know,

  372. all been fulfilled?

  373. Yeah?

  374. Through Christ?

  375. So so then through Christ then he does he said

  376. he didn't come to suspend the law. He came to

  377. fulfill the law. But let's talk about that. Then if

  378. we're not doing those law things anymore, then none of

  379. the law applies.

  380. None of the law applies, is in like the Old

  381. Testament law?

  382. Yeah?

  383. Well, I think that there are different types of laws, right,

  384. And there's there's levitical laws, there's there's there's laws that

  385. were given just to the Jewish people, and then there

  386. are there are certainly laws that are that are that

  387. carry over, like thou shalt not kill that would apply, right.

  388. How do you know?

  389. How do I know?

  390. How do you know which ones apply and which ones

  391. don't apply?

  392. Well? You have the different categories of laws.

  393. Yeah. Yeah, so uh, here's what I would say on that.

  394. There are the civil laws where God is setting up

  395. how the Israelite government was supposed to be run.

  396. It was going to be a theocracy. And so God says,

  397. this is what you do when somebody steals something, and

  398. this is how you make restitution when something when you

  399. ruin something, And this is what you do to murderers

  400. and to rapists and to this is how you make

  401. sure that you have fair weights when you're trying to

  402. do business. And He's got all these rules. A big

  403. chunk of the laws and Exodus. The laws in Deuteronomy

  404. are civil laws, and those are for theocracy. They're for

  405. the nation of Israel specifically. We get a lot of

  406. benefit from it. Our nations the West has built a

  407. lot of our laws around those things. We're just not

  408. bound by those because they weren't for us. They were

  409. for the Jews. And they're fairly clearly delineate where God

  410. pivots from the other laws and gets into civil society laws.

  411. And so while they're good principles, the judgments for those

  412. laws are not on us as gentiles. Right, So that's

  413. part of it. So I would say, the principles, yes,

  414. the penalties, no, they're not for us. Then there's also

  415. the levitical law or the ceremonial law, and this is

  416. how worship happened, and this is how a sacrifice would happen.

  417. And all of those things were built into the civil

  418. law because it was a theocracy, right, and instead of

  419. a government of the people, it was a government of

  420. God for the people. That's what worked. And so they

  421. also had their religious laws. And this was the rules

  422. for the priests, and the rules for the sacrifices, and

  423. the rules for whether or not it's a good lamb

  424. or a bad lamb, and the rules for their tithes

  425. and offerings, and the rules for their social connection to

  426. the temple, and all these things God God gave. God

  427. gave specific rules about exactly the size of the lamp

  428. stand in the in the temple or in the tabernacle. Right,

  429. he gave rules about everything about religion. So all of

  430. the ceremonial laws were designed to point to Jesus. And

  431. Paul says all the ceremonial laws were achieved and finished

  432. by Jesus, the author of Hebrews says, so then after Jesus.

  433. The old contract was done. Now we have a new

  434. contract in Jesus. But the moral law is the law

  435. that Jesus kept reaffirming. He reaffirmed almost all the ten commandments, right,

  436. So don't kill, don't steal, don't have any other God

  437. before me, honor the Sabbath day, you know, don't don't covet,

  438. don't lust. All these things Jesus not only reaffirms, he

  439. elevates them. Jesus goes beyond just the obedience of the

  440. law to the heart of the law man. He says,

  441. I know you read don't don't uh, don't commit adultery.

  442. I'm telling you. If you lust after somebody, you're committing adultery.

  443. Jesus takes it to the heart and intent. So Jesus

  444. actually revs up the moral code, even while he fulfills

  445. the ceremonial Code. And we are not part of the

  446. civil Code because we were never Israelites, right, And so

  447. that's how it's divided. So we're not absolved from the

  448. moral Code and the civil Code. They're good principles. And

  449. Jesus resolved all of the levitical code, the worship code.

  450. Yeah yeah, yeah, So that's amazing. And uh and I

  451. bet you that that probably explains a lot to somebody

  452. currently who's reading through the Book of Leviticus.

  453. Yeah, tons of people.

  454. Well, you know there are people who who they have

  455. those questions. You know. Did I ever tell you a

  456. story about when I was When I was a kid,

  457. and I was probably I don't know, twelve thirteen years old,

  458. and I remember looking through the closet for some reason,

  459. and I pulled out an old Bible and I remember

  460. specifically it was all ripped on its cover. It was

  461. a paper jacket on it and that was ripped. And

  462. I looked at it and I was like, ooh, a Bible.

  463. I was like ooh. I was like, I haven't even

  464. touched the Bible before my life.

  465. He was a holy book twelve years old.

  466. And I opened it up and it said if you

  467. touch something dead, you'll be unclean, and I just shut

  468. it real quick. Now, looking back at it, I'm pretty

  469. sure that what I was reading was the rules of

  470. a Nazarite, right.

  471. You know, Well, any any of the Jews, either Elijah,

  472. any of the Jews, you no, Samson, Yeah, any Israel

  473. stuff they touched a dead thing. They were unclean, they

  474. had to go through ceremony.

  475. But I think it was something else too. It was

  476. something like not cutting your hair, so like you know,

  477. somebody like Samson or John the Baptist or somebody. Right, So,

  478. but I remember just reading it like briefly, and I

  479. and I shut not knowing anything at all about it.

  480. I said, I touched a dead frog the other day. Yeah,

  481. so you're like, I was like, I don't know what

  482. that means, right, not realizing that wasn't for me. Yeah, right.

  483. But so anyway, I just think that, like there are

  484. probably a lot of brand new people. Sure if they

  485. read through the Old Testament, they're just thinking themselves, Well,

  486. that explains it. There's the civil law for government, there's

  487. the ceremonial law, there's the moral law. Right, and Jesus

  488. came to fulfill all the ceremonial law.

  489. That's right. So Hebrews ten tells us that Jesus fulfilled

  490. all the ceremonial law. We don't need to deal with

  491. that anymore. Roma's ten reminds us that all of the

  492. commandments in the law and the prophets can be summed

  493. up in loving God, loving people. It's Matthew Chapter twenty

  494. two does the same thing.

  495. Yep, it hangs on there.

  496. Yep.

  497. Okay, very good. Well, hey, that is our time for sure,

  498. and so tomorrow is the last day of this series.

  499. We have some pretty good questions about Jesus, God and

  500. the spirits and also the Bible put together by human author.

  501. Yeah good, So if you want to learn about that,

  502. tune in tomorrow on the Bible Gus