How to Find Peace | John 14:8-31

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Well well, well, Chris, it's another Bible Guys.

Podcast, and it's just another manic Monday.

What a manic Monday? Wow? Is that what you have?

Is manic Monday?

Well, you know it was Sunday.

Okay, Funday?

Right, Okay, you know what I'm talking about.

It is the song Sunday's Fundays.

Yeah, you don't know that.

That's I don't know.

That's just another manic Monday.

I don't know that.

Wish it was Sunday.

I'm sorry.

Okay, it's in the eighties.

Okay.

Anyway, welcome to the Bible Guys. It is Monday, and

we are Jeff and Chris and we are here to

bring you the finest uh Biblical.

Discussion, artisanally crafted.

Yes nice.

Yeah.

Before we get into that, we have a segment called

Guess the word.

Guess the word? Now, fun is We have done this

in a long time.

It's like a taboo type thing, I know. So if

you're watching on video Hopefully we're gonna be able to

put the words on the screen that I cannot say.

And it's my goal to go well.

That you may not say, you can say them. Oh, yeah,

you may, I.

May not say them. Sorry, May I have a napkin? Yeah,

you can have a napkin if you get it yourself.

So and so I'm gonna go ahead.

And uh give me one of those days it is.

I'm gonna go ahead and uh invite the audience to

try to beat you.

Okay, so they're racing against Okay, it's a race then, Okay, okay,

here you go.

The first word, Here we go. Ready, the spirit descended

like a dove. Dove, I don't think. I don't think

I blew it here. Yeah. I wasn't allowed to say

bird symbol, white olive brand or peace. Oh I think

that's say all a branch.

No brand Olive? The brand?

Oh the brand?

Yeah yeah, the brand? Okay, excellent, Okay, good, we got it.

You know what.

I haven't looked at these at also, I haven't thought

through them. And this is hard.

Okay, Okay, here we go.

Ready, Yes, uh, this is brutal.

Okay, here we go, ready, Okay, love and power.

Oh no, oh no, I got all to say.

Power, okay, love and power to the people? Man. Who

am I the type of person like a surfer dude?

Like it, like a like a in this hippies? Yes, yeah,

and in the sixties okay.

Because actually it says seventies because they were sixties and seventies.

Yeah, I wasn't a lot of the best hippies were

in the sixties.

Yes they were. And it says love TI die peace,

which I didn't say, peace and flower.

What did you say? You said I said power?

I said no, I said, uh.

Peace and power. No, you said what did you say?

Did I say something in power? Man to the people? Man?

Did I say one day?

I don't know. I don't know. I wasn't paying attention.

I wasn't either.

I was picking up on the attitude. Oh no, I

was picking up on thettude. Well, we'll find out.

I was doing the voice.

We'll find out I was trying to do the voice. Okay,

all right.

It's like it's like cars, you.

Remember, Well, I feel like I feel like I should

get points regardless, yes, and then if you blew it,

then you should get points deducted from your total.

Wow. A thousand, a thousand?

Sure? How many are we giving the fans for getting

it right before me?

Uh? Six?

Six? See the people know now you just exposed yourself

because on this one. Because I always give them like

ten thousand points or fifty thousand points, and you're giving

them six points.

You know why? My points mean way more points are meaningless.

You're more substantial.

That's right.

You know value my point platinum. You've got platinum quality points.

I see. Okay, yeah, here we go, we go?

Ready? Uh ge whiz? Okay? Are you ready?

Yes?

This? No? This?

No?

This note? Uh?

Those together make make accord a triad.

Uh together they it's a beautiful harmony. Yes, harmony.

There you go. Okay.

I was allowed to say music, balance, blend or peaceful. Okay, okay,

so I was. I was trying my best.

To do harmony. Yeah, very nice. Okay, Okay, fans beat

me on that one.

Uh oh wow, Okay, here we go.

Uh, I'm so excited.

Herbie was what kind of brand of Volkswagen?

Yes, yes, yes, I.

Wasn't allowed to say bus, hippie travel, road or van.

Okay, but we got a lot of hippie stuff today, right, Okay?

What the heck is that?

I don't know.

Okay, yeah, we had hippie we had harmony, which is

kind of a hippie thing than a volkswagon. Okay, doves

peace too. And then oh wait a minute, we're in

this series called God's Peace. This is what she's doing.

We're so clever. It only took us five minutes.

Oh yeah, okay, and then finally here's the last one.

Okay, gee whiz.

When you decide to hold your ground, you could say

I am not going to budge, yes, move, and you're

not going to also give in surrender it's another word

for that treaty agreements.

I'm not going to surrender. I'm not going to concede.

I'm not going to something your values. I'm not going

to lower my values. I'm not going to.

When when something when something, when the integrity of something is.

Invaded, Boy, I don't know. This is a tough one.

The integrity is something is invaded.

I'm not going to yeah, wow, okay, all right, when

when two people have been so hard, when two people

have different side I was allowed to say that, I

didn't say it.

And two people have different views opinions, sometimes they'll meet

in half way and that's called a yes.

Oh there you go. Man. That was hard.

Yeah, that was really hard.

Wow.

Yeah, I would definitely say everybody got that before you do?

You think so everybody? Uh?

It was it was I couldn't say agree or middle

or deal, negotiate or sides. Okay, that was hard and

you know it was probably a.

Well it's easier for compromisers than it is for somebody

who stands on principle.

Yeah, I said, I said, stand your ground.

I know that's what I'm saying. So stand my ground

made total sense. I got that one. I'm just not

a compromiser. So yeah, yeah, I'm joking.

That's what you're saying. You're saying it's not in your purview.

It's difficult.

It is so far away for my thinking.

Yeah, I believe in win win solutions. Uh huh I do.

But yeah, well that was rough and that was super

what I got.

I got. I got four out of five. Yeah yeah,

and well I got the fifth one too. But it

took a while. Well, sure the fans got that one

before me.

The fact that it took me so long.

Because they're incredible, Our fans are incredible.

Let me describe something to you please. During that fifth one,

when I couldn't come up with the words, I felt

like my mind was going to million miles a minute,

and I had no peace.

You had no peace. No, do you know what Jesus

said about peace? What he said that he would send

a comforter who will give you peace, what he will

guide you into.

Is that in the scripture today, Jeff, it.

Is as a matter of fact, let's look at John

chapter fourteen. John chapter fourteen is one of your favorite chapters.

Yeah, I think we gave that a little bit of effort.

I think you. I think you intended to reference John fourteen.

I did.

I did at some point.

Yeah, Okay, I couldn't say it. I go ahead and

say it.

Hey, I'm setting you up. I'm offering this. Yes.

So last week or actually, depending on when this airs,

it could be two weeks ago, you had mentioned a

scripture and you said, you know how Jesus says, in

my father's house, there's many mansaers, we're talking about heaven.

It was stuff the pasture week. Yes, And I said,

off the coff I said, yeah, John fifteen, but it

wasn't Yes, John fourteen, that's correct, And so I heard myself.

I heard myself say, yeah, John fifteen. I thought to myself,

John fifteen, is vine in the branch, vine in the branch.

Not I go to prepare place for you, and then

i'm the way, and then peace I give to you all.

That's John fourteen.

Yes, well we're in. We're in John fourteen today. Here's

what I'm saying.

Had I just said, it's somewhere around.

Here's what I'm saying. I agreed with you.

Oh you missed it too.

I missed it too. Actually I knew it was in

the general zone.

To be fair, I said, John fifteen, and you were

just going on.

You didn't listen. I wasn't. I was. I listened to everybody.

I interrupted.

I am always riveted by what you're saying.

I interrupted you by John fifteen.

And so, so you were in the general area, Yes,

in the general area. And I appreciate the effort. Yeah,

and I appreciate how close you got.

Twenty twenty one whatever it takes. Yeah, nope, it's mister mom.

Michael Keaton, Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

So it was kind of like on horseshoes instead of

going instead of getting ring or you.

Went to think yeah, only date.

Yeah, that's okay, It's okay. So we're going to start

off in John chapter fourteen and versus. Let's let's do

verse eight of for say it is fun. Philip says

to the Lord Lord, show us the Father and we'll

be satisfied. And Jesus replied, have I been with you

all this time? Philip? And yet you still don't know

who I am. Anyone who has seen me has seen

the Father, So why are you asking me to show

him to you? Don't you believe that I am the

Father and the Father is in me. The words I

speak are not my own, but my Father, who lives

in me, does his work through me. Just believe that

I am in the Father and the Father is in me,

or at least believe because of the work you've seen me.

Do I tell you the truth. Anyone who believes in

me will do the same works I've done, and even

greater works, because I am going to be with the Father.

You can ask for anything in my name, and I

will do it so that the Son can bring glory

to the Father. Yes, ask me for anything in my name,

and I will do it. If you love me, obey

my commandments and I will ask the Father, and he

will give you another advocate who will never leave you.

He's the Holy Spirit who leads into all truth. The

world cannot receive him because it isn't looking for him

and doesn't recognize him. But you know him because he

lives with you now and later will be in you. Now. No,

I will not abandon you as orphans. I will come

to you soon. The world will no longer see me,

but you will see me. Since I live, you also

will live. And when I am raised to life again,

you will know that I am in my Father, and

you are in me, and I am in you. Those

who accept my commandments and obey them are the ones

who love me. And because they love me, my Father

will love them, and I will love them and reveal

myself to each of them. And Judas not Judas is Scariot,

but the other disciple with that name said to him, Lord,

why are you going to reveal yourself only to us

and not to the world at large? And Jesus replied,

all who loved me will do what I say. My

Father will love them, and we will come and make

our home with each of them. Anyone who doesn't love

me will not obey me, and remember my words are

not my own. What I am telling you is from

the Father who sent me. I'm telling you these things

now while I am still with you. But when the

Father sends the Advocate as my representative, that is the

Holy Spirit, he will teach you everything and will remind

you of everything I've told you. I am leaving you

with a gift peace of mind and heart. And the

peace I give is a gift the world cannot give.

So do not be troubled or afraid. Remember what I

told you. I'm going away, but I will come back

to you again. If you really loved me, you would

be happy that I'm going to the Father who is

greater than I am. I've told you these things before

they happen, so that when they do happen, you'll believe.

I don't have much more time to talk to you

because the rule of this world approaches. He has no

power over me. But I will do what the Father

requires of me so that the world will know that

I love the Father. Come, let's be going. Wow.

Yeah, that's that's there's a lot in there.

There you go. Man.

So, so he says the Father is greater than I am,

is that because he's in his human state currently.

I think partly, yeah, I think so, yeah, I think

that's partly it. I also think, as you do, as

you've highlighted before, the will comes from the Father, and

Jesus does the will of the Father. Right, So there's

a submission from Jesus towards the Father.

Yeah. That's really good. That's really good. Yeah. The nature,

the nature of the Trinity of God, it's it's so

hard to understand their relational dynamic and their roles together.

The concept even of three and one the triune God

is is just a mind blowing concept. And yet it's

it's pretty clear in the scriptures that that's exactly who

God is.

Jesus believed in the Trinity clearly, clearly, right. That's why

I read that whole passage there was because of that,

was to highlight that part of it. But it's interesting

because the real love requires submission, right, And so what

you see is you see Jesus submitting to the Father here.

But there's other places where the Father says, I will

lift his name above every name, and that the name

of Jesus. Every knee will bow right right.

Capital elve Lord.

Yeah, and will declare him Lord, and in heaven and

on earth right everywhere, So the Father elevates Jesus. Jesus

is elevating the Father. The Holy Spirit's job is to

promote the will of the Father and to seal the

people until the day of rejemption because of the sacrifice

of Jesus. And then he's replacing Jesus in our life

with regard to every day interaction. Right when I go away,

the Holy Spirit will come to.

You and be in you and be in you, yeah,

be in me?

Yeah yeah, right, I.

Mean, I mean think about that concept, right right. I

think I told you this, But who was it? What

speaker was it? Was it Francis Chan? But I've mentioned

it actually in some of my sermons. I've said this before,

where people of the Old Testament will get to heaven

and we'll say, hey, what was it like to see

the burning bush? That must have been amazing, and Roses says, yeah,

that was great, But what was it like to have

God in your right? And it's like and it's you know,

we don't think about that, but the idea that like

an Old Testament character in heaven will be like, are

you kidding me? You got the privilege of the Holy

Spirit of God, the power of living in you all

the time. What the heck?

Yeah, because the Bible says like with Samson, and the

Spirit of God would come upon him and he would

do a thing right. But what we have is we

have the Holy Spirit in us all the time. For

those of us who've trusted Christ. Now, that doesn't mean

there's a little spark of divinity in you and that

you're a little God right. What it does mean is

that God has chosen to indwell you and to empower

you and to teach you through the power of His

Holy Spirit. The issue is not how much of the

Holy Spirit do you have, but how much of you

does the Holy Spirit have? Are you surrendering to him?

Because so many people have access to the power never

flip the switch, they never actually step into it. And

another reason why I read this passage is because Jesus

connects these things to obedience, right, love of God and obedience.

And then this is when when you surrender and decide

you're going to do Jesus will. The Holy Spirit's the

one that's going to teach you Jesus will. Jesus said,

my will only comes from the Father. Right, So the

only way you really activate the power of the Holy

Spirit is if you truly love God, you choose to

obey him. When you begin obeying him is when you

begin to release the power of the Holy Spirit in you. Yeah.

And by the way, before I continue with my thought,

I can't help but to say, everything reminds me of

a movie. Usually in a movie, really yeah, I know,

I know. Wow, what you said. It's not like you

have a little God in you. And I pictured immediately

Bill Murray your remember Groundhog Day. Yes, when he's eating

this doughnut and he's stuffing it or whatever he's eating

at breakfast, and he's trying to tell this this lady

and he goes, she goes, you think you're God. And

as he's stuffing his face, he goes, well, I'm a God,

not the God because he stuffing this thing. It is

because he has those powers. Anyway, what I was going

to do, what I was going to say, is that

is one of those things I think that we, you know,

sort of pray wrong, you know, technically, because we say,

like God, you know, send your Holy Spirit down, or

you know, God, have your spirit, you know, cover this place.

And I understand what they're saying. They're saying, God, we

want your Holy Spirit's power to be known, to be

seen to work mightily.

Right.

But but isn't it true that we already have all

the Holy Spirit that we are ever going to have? Yeh,

there's never a time where we say, man, I was,

I had an extra dose of the Holy Spirit. You

should have seen it, man I was, I was on

fire that day. And it's because the Holy Spirit came

down and as implying that that you don't have the

enough of the Holy Spirit, you had to have more

of the Holy Spirit in order. Right, But you already

said it. You said it's the Holy you said, it's

the Holy Spirit having more of you.

Yeah, I think it's a semantical argument a little bit.

I agree with you. Technically. I think that my intent

as a worship leader, as a preacher, if I pray

those things, I think what I'm really asking for is God,

help me to experience the presence of the Holy Spirit

more right, help me to experience the flow of the

Spirit through this place. Help me to experience the closeness

of the Spirit in a way that I'm not accustomed to,

or whatever. Right now, which is that's more of a

surrender kind of a statement as opposed to just just

let your hand.

And that just happened.

It sure did.

Sorry about that everybody, to the whole world.

I kind of want to answer.

It it was a it was a spam thing.

Well that would have been even better. But hey, so

we're sitting here talking about all the spirit.

Actually it's it's probably just one of those voice recording things. Okay,

I must have made a list because lately it's brutal.

It's getting you.

Huh, it's brutal. Okay, so hey, that's that's a great question.

But yeah, it is. It is a very different prayer.

So I think that sometimes when we hear people say

those things, it's it's again, it's not something where I'm like,

oh man, they're so dumb or whatever. I don't look

at it as a negative thing. I just try to

interpret what they're really meaning.

Well, the good news is this last week we talked

about how the Holy Spirit praise take intercepts your prayer.

That's right, takes it to the Father and engroanings we

can't comprehend. So the good news is you can pray

any way you want to and you're not going to

screw it up, right. So what we don't want to

do is send the message that maybe there's a right

way to pray in the wrong way to pray. I

think the right way to pray is to talk to God,

and the wrong way to pray is not talk to God.

Actually that's it, doesn't that make sense?

Yeah, I definitely don't want to scare people off by

saying pray the right way.

Certain words or there's there's there's a semantical argument. We

don't want to do that. Just pray because if you don't,

if you're not precise the Holy Spirit. What the passage

we read last week was that the Holy Spirit knows

our heart, discerns our heart, and takes the prayers to

God in groanings. We can't comprehend meaning he's communicating God

because it is a little silly. There's a point where

God says, your ways aren't my ways, My thoughts aren't

your thoughts. So if my thoughts are not his thoughts,

how could I possibly even communicate you ever? Talk to

your wife and just not have any idea what she's

really getting at.

Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, it's it's right. What do people

say only on days that end with.

Wife exactly right? Or have you ever had I can't

remember when when Jenna was learning to talk. She's my daughter.

She's twenty one right now, But when she was little,

she just had this drive to communicate. She still will

just take up an entire evening talking Hi Jenna. But

she when she was little, she wanted to talk and

she would just say things to me, but none of

it made sense. Sometimes, when she was really like like

three years old, she'd have a few of the words

she could say and then the rest of it was

just babble. I couldn't understand. She's clearly communicating something.

He's meaning something.

Yes, my granddaughter just recently has started doing this. So

she's little, she's she's almost two, and she's the same way.

So she's like, begod bit bah blah bah, and she's

clearly saying something. Walking away, she's pointing the thing.

She's trying to tell you.

We just had we just had a moment. I just

don't know what the moment was about. So it's why

would we think that we could even truly communicate with

the creator of the universe when we are so unbelievably limited,

and He is so unbelievably expansive. Right, So that's why

the Holy Spirit takes our intent translates it to the Father.

And yet God tells us over and over, pray to me.

Bring your requests, not consistently right, ask big right, and

it changes things, it matters. And so yeah, both of

those things are true.

So just pray, just pray, just talk to God and

don't worry about messing it up. But I think you're

right that that theologically for the theologians among us. Yes,

there's this nuance to it. Yeah, I mean, but God's

not going to be mad. I've never told my granddaughter

if you can't articulate clearly, stop talking to me.

Correct correct. I'm like, oh yeah, but the goal on

the podcast is to learn, right, so they're talking it out.

It's important. But yeah, the concern is, yeah, don't don't

don't make anybody afraid to pray wrong.

But here is the promise that we're talking about this week,

because this whole week is about promises. And so he's

literally saying, I'm leaving you a gift peace of mind

and heart, and the peace I give is a gift

the world cannot give, so don't be troubled or afraid.

And I think people, this is one of the great

searches in this generation. Is just peace. Everything is. It's

all upheaval all the time, right. Everybody's protesting, people burning stuff,

people flipping over cop cars, people fighting, people just typing,

so angry and mean, people doom scrolling laid into the night,

people upset about something. Somebody said, it's just tension all

the time. And Jesus says, the world can't give you

the peace you're looking for. It's not possible. You think

you can create a utopia by protesting and burning stuff down,

You can't the world. There's not a government in the

world that can truly give you the peace you're looking for. Right,

There's not a system, there's not a decision, there's not

a solution. He says. The only real peace you can

get is when you learn to love me. You begin

to experience My love for you, and the Holy Spirit

begins to remind you of what I've taught you and

remind you that there's a God in heaven that's already

resolved all the things. Because the world you're living in

is broken. But the hope that comes through Jesus Christ,

and his sacrifice brings all the peace you'll ever need.

And that's what he's trying to say. And the Holy

Spirit the one who brings that gift.

Yeah, that's right. And uh and the peace is miraculous too.

And I got to tell you, I'm I'm a I'm

I think I'm good with faith like I I Yeah.

I think you're a high faith person.

I'm a high faith person, but a peace person. I

think I'm okay with it. But but I'm not exceptional.

And uh, and I don't know what it is. But

like I I I used to think that I was

Maybe I'm Maybe I'm I used to be better, right,

but I experience more anxiety. Maybe maybe it's just through

the bumps and bruises of life. I don't know what

it is, but here's my point. My point is is

that I see people that I admire that have peace. Uh,

And I think to myself, Gosh, I wish I hope,

I hope that would be me in that situation. Right,

you know, something tragic happens. I mean, I've been to funerals,

I've been to I've seen tragedies. I've seen things take place.

And I've been near people and I experience people who

have absolute peace when it doesn't make sense, and i

think to myself, Wow, this is amazing. And you know it.

The only way that they have that is through the

power of the Holy Spirit. You just know, and it

doesn't make any sense. It transcends everything, and and and

it's because of the promises of God. It's because of

God's comfort of who of who he is, and and

they trust him, they give it all to him, and

none of that. But it's the hope of heaven. It's

the hope of it's the hope of all the future

and and all that rests in him. And and there

are just some people who are overcome with peace, and

I'm just blown away by it.

Well that's that's why we're doing this whole series on

the promises of God, right right, So look, great, before

I'm giving you this gift peace of mind and heart,

the one before that is the Father sends an advocate

as my representative, as the Holy Spirit. He will teach

you everything and remind you of everything I've told you.

Then he says, my peace comes. Right. So this is

why you need to know the promises of God, because

the Holy Spirit is always going to use what Jesus

has already said to comfort you. And so when you

have that moment, that's the moment you find out how

much time have I spent spending a God's word and

do I really believe it? And then the Holy Spirit

just gives you this overwhelming peace when you know the

promises of God. You know, God's bigger than your problems.

And you know, it's so funny is that was activated

almost immediately because well, I guess it wasn't the Holy Spirit.

But remember the angels reminded them. Do you remember he

said he was going to rise again? Right?

And then don't forget? Yeah, do you remember?

Yeah? And then it says then they remembered what Jesus said, right,

but yeah, that the Holy Spirit had not yet come

on them yet at that point. But yeah, that's what

God does, right, He reminds, Oh, yeah, that's right. That

is true.

So our listeners and anybody else who's spending time in

God's word every day. There's so much wisdom in that

because you're building up a reservoir of peace you don't

even know you're gonna need until the moment of that

Uh oh yeah, right, well

That is definitely our time, so good talk and we

will see you hopefully tomorrow on the Bible guys,