Bible Guys Classics: 2 Corinthians 5 Part 1

Well, Jeff, today, this is the chapter that gives us

all hope for these earthly bodies wasting away.

One day they'll be better than they are right now.

I hope I get a body like Superman.

Oh, that'd be great.

All right, we'll find out. So I'm Jeff and he's Chris,

and we're the Bible guys. Okay, Chris, Yes, So it's

going to be this or that.

That's the segment.

Yes, So I'm going to give you a choice between

one thing or another thing.

And I haven't read these yet, and you have.

To decide which is the best. Yes, go ahead, Okay,

Marvel or DC.

This could also be a segment of what made Chris mad.

So it is Marvel, because almost everything about DC.

Makes Chris madly.

Oh, DC's horrific outside of well, okay, there are exceptions.

I'm just so disappointed in the majority of DC because

if you think about it, DC has like the best heroes.

They do, they do, they have the best heroes. It

was the Justice League growing up, right, I know. And

somehow they just can't seem to quite get it right. Right,

So so I think it isn't that they're just I

guess horrific is a strong word.

I'm just so angry at the.

Fact that like you have this, you have this most

potential handed to you, and it's like, man, you have

the opportunity to make.

Something fantastic, that's right, and they just can't get it right.

Outside of Wonder Woman Part one, which was like a

ten out of ten, right, And I would say that

the Christian Bale Batman's Yeah, Michael Keaton was good. In

the nineteen eighty nine version, it was good.

But those are more cartoon versions. Batman. Yeah, you know,

you know, the Dark Knight thing was Yeah.

The Dark Knight was really good.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then and I would say Man of Steel was

really good part one, and then I would say after that,

I'm trying to think of another one that's good.

Wow, you take in the serious dude.

Yeah, well Shazam uh is a is a that's a

DC thing.

So you emphatically said Marvel. But now we've spent two

minutes talking about DC. Well, how good these DC things are?

Yeah, well, Marvel's fantastic.

Yeah. The Bible says that a double minded man is

unstable in all of his ways.

It does say that it does and by the way.

That has nothing to do at all with my response.

I'm just saying, but Marvel, Marvel is incredible, Marvel amazing.

Okay, here's the next one. Read a book series or

watch a movie marathon. That's a no brainer. I know

that one. For you.

Yeah, it's gonna be always a movie marathon for me. Yeah,

although for you, I'm sure it's a book serious.

Did you you accidentally read a book once? Didn't you?

I read? I read the Bible today, words on a page.

Go camping or stay at a luxury resort, Oh.

No question, no question for me. I'm a luxury resort

guy all the way.

Let's listen. It could be it could it could be

go camping.

Or sleep in the backseat of your car, and I

would choose the car.

Yeah, no, camping.

Camping is just not my thing.

Okay. Be spontaneous or plan out everything ahead of time?

Honestly, I guess it depends on the responsibility factor. But

as long as there's no consequences of responsibility, always spontaneous,

spontaneous so we are on vacation, nothing mattered. And you

were to ask me both of those things. Even though

I do plan, if somebody else planned for me, you know,

and just said, like, today's a free day, and you.

Could do one of these ten things. I would much

prefer that.

Yeah. Would you rather here? This is a really important one.

Would you rather talk like Yoda or breathe like Darth

Vader for the rest of your life?

Talk like Yoda? I would, because breathing is a constant.

Yeah.

Actually that's a horrible choice. Yeah, yeah, I know that's

a horrible Would.

You rather well this or that? Oh, Jeff, yes, yeah,

I think maybe Yoda Yoda?

Yeah, I know both are awful.

You're a public speaker. Oh that's true. It would probably

change your career.

Yeah you think.

Yeah. Okay, So I'm going to run through Marvel for

me over DC.

Read a book over by the way, Do you feel

just a strong Marvel and DC that I do?

No?

Oh?

Really?

You like you like d C.

No, I'm just not as big of a movie guy.

So whatever movie's planes the movie I'm watching.

Okay, okay, okay.

And I said, okay, but I like the Marvel. I

thought that the Marvel universe, they did a good job

developing that whole storyline, so that was good. Usually read

a book series, over watch a movie marathon. But I

watch a lot of shows, so I don't know that

that's that might be. My preference would be read a

great book series, go camping by far Ye yeah, yeah,

that's so. It's funny. So if we're staying home, like

we're not leaving town right, being spontaneous as high like

me like to live my life. If we're going to

a new city, I want to have a big picture

plan for each day, like even for each half of

the day. So Okay, in the morning, we're going to

go to the Louver and in the evening we're going

to go to the Eiffel Tower and eat dinner, you

know that kind of thing. I like to have a

plan of some sort, but I don't plan, you know,

down to the hour or those kinds of things. I

just like to know what I'm supposed to do that day.

And then for me, Darth Vader over Yoda, I think, yeah, yeah, I.

Thought more about that. It's really tough, but at least

Darth Vader people be like, dude, he is awesome, you

know what I mean, So that that probably would be.

You know, it's so funny because you and I are very,

very very alike. We are we are like in so

many ways, and yet we were almost polar opposites on.

On three of the five.

Three of the five. Yeah, like you are by far

camping guy.

I'm not. You're a book guy. I'm more of a

movie guy. That's really funny.

Yep, so well, in my mind a vacation. The reason

why I like camping is you get away from it

all right, and from everybody. It turns out my phone

doesn't work out in the woods, you know. I love that.

I love to just be completely disconnected. And then I

love nature anyways. I like sleeping outside, I like all

that kind of I think one.

Of the funniest things you've ever said that as far

as I'm concerned. As in our previous podcast, when you said,

how would you like the story of your life, the

movie of your life to end, and you said, would you.

Say get lost, get lost in the jungle?

You said, disappear into the jungle. That's how you want

your movie to end, which means.

Your life to end.

Everybody just wondering what happened.

I was just thinking to myself, like, I cannot imagine

an ending. It's so polar opposite of anything that I

would want for my life.

That's just so funny, dude.

So he was looking for the Holy Grail and just

disappeared into the jungle. Last adventure. Yeah. So hey, before

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So we are continuing on two Corinthia's chapter five, and

we're going to read verses one through ten. So this

is kind of a short passage today. That's why we

took a little bit extra time finding out where Chris's

preferences lie. But and Jeff's and mine. That's right, So

here we go. For we know that when this earthly

tent we live in is taken down, that is, when

we die and leave this earthly body, we will have

a house in heaven, an eternal body made for us

by God himself and not by human hands. We grow

weary in our present bodies and we long to put

on our heavenly bodies like new clothing. For we will

put on heavenly bodies. We will not be spirits without bodies.

While we live in these earthly bodies, we grown and sigh.

But it's not that we want to die and get

rid of these bodies that clothe us. Rather, we want

to put on our new bodies so that these dying

bodies will be swallowed up by life. God himself has

prepared us for this, and as a guarantee, he has

given us his Holy Spirit. So we are always confident,

even though we know that as long as we live

in these bodies, we are not at home with the Lord,

for we live by believing and not by seeing. Yes,

we are fully confident, and we would rather be away

from these earthly bodies, for then we'll be at home

with the Lord. So whether we are here in this

body or away from this body, our goal is to

please Him, for we must all stand before Christ to

be judged. We will each receive whatever we deserve for

the good or evil we've done in this earthly body.

There it is, there, you go. I love his tent illustration.

Yeah, and Paul again, the King of visual aids.

Ye, yep.

So every chapter so far that we've spent this entire

week has been a comparison to a visual aid. Yeah.

And so in this case, he's using a temporary tent.

And you know, for us, we just talked about camping,

and most of our association with tents is just for

you know, recreation, But for them it was very much

a you know, integral part of life because not everybody

had a permanent structure, and there were people who actually

would you know, pitch tents, like for instance, shepherds who

sometimes would go on a year journey and they would

have to carry their tents with them or really have

a person carry them for them, and then they would

pitch a tent and then they would you know, stay

there temporarily and then wrap it up and then move

on to the next place. And of course, you know,

tents also have to get replaced because they you know,

are subject to the weather versus a permanent.

Structure, right.

And so this is just a fantastic illustration because once

again Paul is talking about these temporary, wasting away bodies

that get worn out, right, versus a permanent structure that

is fixed, that is, you know, impenetrable in some cases,

especially back then, and so it's just a great picture.

Have you ever been in any of the desert tent

like the Bedouins or the people. Have you ever been

in any of their tents before?

The only tents that I've been in are like in Egypt,

you know, when we went in to go eat, you know,

their whole structure was like a big, huge tent. In Israel,

it was like a restaurant that was in a tent,

and it was a very large tent, but it was

so thick it almost seemed, you know, like it was

pretty impressive, you know what I mean.

We were in a tent outside of Abu Dhabi in

the Arabian Peninsula, and we had gone way way, way,

way way out into the desert and we were doing,

you know, dune bashing and four wheelers and stuff like that.

And we come into these guys home and I was talking.

They had their hunting and they had their falcons and they,

I mean, they were genuine Bedouin people and they would

move their camp every once in a while based on

food and we're availability to water and those kinds of things.

And I was talking to this guy because I mean,

we were three hours away from the city in the

middle of just desert, and I asked him about it

and he said, I said, have you been in the

big cities, the air conditioning, all that kind of stuff

at higher right, And he said, oh yeah. He said

I could never live in a city, and I was

like why, and he reached out and just you know,

the tent just like carpets, right, they're so thick, heavy.

He says, this is home. He said, I'm free here,

this is home. I'm comfortable. And you know, for a

lot of us, I think and for me, I can't imagine.

There's sand blowing everywhere, and it's hotter than you know

all get out out there and all these things. But

for him, that was home, and so he had this comfortability.

He couldn't imagine moving somewhere else where it could be

more comfortable because this was home. And then he would

talk about how soft the city people are versus how

strong the people who live outside the city.

Which I have no doubt, Yeah, yeah, that's right.

And so he wanted to be a strong free man

instead of a soft city man. That was kind of

his perspective. And then he took me back and we

got to see his hunting dogs and he showed me

how his falcon hunts, and it was just it was

really fabulous how he's living this traditional life still. And

then we sat down, we had dinner. It's really incredible.

But when I read this passage, isn't it funny? We

try so hard to hang on to this body and

to this life, because it turns out this is the

tent we're comfortable in right, right, And Paul is trying

to differentiate between this tent that's going to wear out

versus these eternal homes that are going to be so glorious, right,

And he's trying to send a message in the previous chapter, right,

we're not looking at things that are here, because these

are soon going to be gone. We're looking into eternity.

And he said, it's even the same thing with our bodies.

This body is eventually going to run out of gas,

it's eventually going to wear out, but we're going to

step into these new eternal bodies. He's trying to challenge

us with this idea. It's going to be so much

better on the other side, So it doesn't matter what

struggle we go go through. Now, for Christ's Kingdom. We're

going to live for eternity in glorious benefit on the

other side of this life. So only the only thing

we should be doing is using this life for moving

the king of got forward.

Yeah.

Here, and that's the challenge there is, man, if you

could just imagine how great it's going to be. We

don't live by sight, we live by faith.

Yeah.

And it's also important to recognize that Paul was writing

to a group of people who were indoctrinated. The Greeks

didn't believe in resurrected bodies.

That's right, they didn't believe in that.

They believe that actually that the soul was being sort

of trapped and then when the bodies died, so it

was just let free and that was the end of it.

But Paul was actually explaining something by the way that

was beyond his knowledge. So he's writing about something that

is to come that you know, it was not taught

by Jesus that we know of.

It was not talked about.

It was being revealed to God, or excuse me, to

Paul by God. This illumination of him just sort of

letting us know that, hey, here's what's going to happen

in the future, we're gonna have resurrected bodies or permanent bodies,

you know, when we get to heaven.

So that illustration, that idea of oh, I would rather

live in this tent because it's what I'm comfortable with.

I think we get the same way that we start

to think that this planet, this world is home and

it is the point without an idea of the resurrection

in the future. And I have a sense it's kind

of like there was a little while my wife's grandmother

gave Bonnie and I Toyota Turceell and it was like

nineteen ninety five Toyota Tursseell. Basically it was a go

kart on you know, with windows. That that's what was.

It was something else, and I can only imagine, no, no, no,

this is the car I want to drive for the

rest of my life because it's the one I'm comfortable

with when there's a brand new Mercedes available to us.

And that's kind of the differentiation he's trying to say,

is it's so glorious when you finally sit in a

nice soft Corinthian leather in the front seat, you got

nice burled wood, all these things. That is so spectacular.

But because we can't envision it and we're comfortable with

what we currently have. We're afraid of what's coming in

the future.

That reminds me. Did you know this.

I'm not sure if I ever told you this, but

my very first car was a nineteen seventy seven black Vet.

Oh nice.

It had red interior, red pin stripe and it was

actually my first car was.

A black bet Did you know.

No, I didn't know that. It was a Chavette oh Chevette,

but it had leather interia.

It did.

It was all ripped up with the floorward missing and

it had It was just a terrible Chavette.

But anyway, that's where it rough me up. So it's

a VET versus a VET, right.

I have a sense that we're riding around with these

vehicles because you are not your body. Yeah, right now,

we should take care of our bodies and all that,

but you are not your body, and so you were

riding around in this vehicle, right And that's what he's

trying to say, is you're you're you're living in this

temporary tent. You and I are riding. We would say,

we're riding around in this vehicle and right now we

are in chavettes. Actually, I think I said a while back,

I feel like I'm in a duck boat. You ever see,

like like the dug boat tours and the big cities

and stuff. It's a it's a boat with wheels essentially

that you can drive on the street and then it

goes down the water and stuff. And it doesn't look

like it doesn't look right on the street, and it

doesn't look right in the water.

Right.

But he's saying, man alive, if you could just understand

the ferrari that's coming for you. Yeah, right on the

other side of.

It, you know.

Later on in the Book of Hebrews, I think it's nine,

but it talks about how Jesus was the one who

had a more perfect tent, right, and that and that

he he gave his life for us and and and

and then one day we'll be like him, which is

now the glorious body. And and it's just it's just

a theme that is beautifully woven throughout the Bible.

And uh, and again it.

Just gives us just a little bit more of a hope. Yeah,

it reminds me of that's song, Baby Shark, Baby Shark,

And then and then and then and.

Now you put that ear whorm and everybody's head they're

gonna be long.

And then it says shark attack.

I'm not sure if this is how the song goes,

but do you say it like this where it says

lost a leg, dun d lost a leg. I don't

know if we made it up or whatever. And then

we say, uh, go to heaven. Uh. And then we

say because you know, the almost drownd and then uh,

CPR didn't work, and then and then and then we

say go to heaven and then we say.

Get leg back, that get laid back. So it's just

it's the idea that like when we get to heaven

we get the leg back. You know.

So my friend Kevin Valentine, who has a prosthetic limb,

there you go, he says, I can't wait to get

to heaven and get my leg back.

So then Paul goes on and he reminds us that

we're not going to be ghosts, right, We're actually gonna

have physical, perfect physical bodies. We're not ghosts. I think

that it's important for Christians. Sometimes we get caught up

watching you know, TV and whatever, we start believing in

ghosts and all these kinds of things. So he says,

here to be absent from the bodies, present with the Lord.

That's what he says. Right, So, yeah, he said this

idea of of us being ghosts, We're not just going

to be spirits. We're going to physical bodies. That's true

for believers and unbelievers both. And so you know when

people are claiming to see ghosts and I don't know

what they're seeing, but they're not seeing former humans. Right,

So you step out of this life, current life, into

eternity immediately, and then either you're with the Lord or not.

But he says, he says, then we can. He says,

for then when we when we are away from these

earthly bodies, then we will be at home with the Lord.

There's no intermediary, there's no middle space, there's no waiting

for some kind of unfinished business. It's you're here, then

you're there. It's you go to sleep here, you wake

up there.

Yeah, And it really did depends on where you believe

the authority lies. If you believe the authority lies in

the scripture, or you believe that somebody in a church

has the authority to speak on behalf of God. These

days you know and have that be equal with God,

you know, in his words. But we believe the Scripture

is the authority, and so there's nowhere in the Bible

that talks about it in between place. There's nobody in

the Bible that talks about either a purgatory or like

a waiting room or anything like that. There's nothing like that.

You know, in this case, to be absent from the body,

to be present with the Lord. It's a really comforting

thought to know that we'll go to sleep and wake.

Up, you know.

It's it's sort of like after a surgery. Do you

have ever have a surgery where you were knocked out?

Yeah?

Oh, it's just you know, you know what's coming, right,

And it's like old people are fearful of surgery. And

when you really realize, like, how could you be fearful

of surgery?

I could.

I could be fearful of the recovery recovery, right, but

not the surgery.

Because I've had two meniscus surgeries on my knee.

And count backwards from ten ten nine.

Right, right, yeah, And that's what that's the way it is.

And you're like ten nine and all of a sudden

you're like, oh, how do you go, doc, Yeah, and

that's your surgery experience. That part is not scary, rights,

it's the pain of the recovery afterwards.

Well, you know in.

This case, you know you you know, you pass away

and then you wake up with Jesus.

It's like, well, jeez, that experience is going to sort

of be like that.

Yeah, And that's what he's trying to say, is he said,

when you really get a real eternal perspective, then he said,

we'd rather be away from these earthly bodies for then

we will be at home with the Lord. So whether

we're hearing this body or away from this body, our

goal is to please him because we must all stand

before Christ to be judged.

Yeah. Well that's that's a whole other sermony all together

right there.

Absolutely. Yeah, So we live for him because we're going

to give account for our life, right right.

Well, I think that that's really great. I think that's

a good place to end.

What do you think I think so too.

Yeah, So we will see you tomorrow as we talk

talk about being ambassadors for the country of God, and

we'll see that on the Bible.

Guys,