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  2. couple of friends talk about the Bible in fun in

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  26. So well, hey, Kyle, before we get into the second

  27. week of our Dangerous Prayers series, And by the way,

  28. this week is the prayers of Surrender. Oh, we are

  29. going to have a brand new segment called topic Drop.

  30. How about that topic drop?

  31. It says as we jump into the second week of

  32. our new series, Dangerous Prayers. This week we're talking about

  33. prayers of surrender. So we ask chat GPT some funny

  34. questions about surrender. So here they are, all right, you

  35. want to pose the first?

  36. Sure, all right, so let's hear the first one about surrender.

  37. Chat GBG asked, I'll ask you, Chris, what's harder to

  38. surrender control? Caffeine or the ox cord during a road trip?

  39. Is a harder to surrender control caffeine or the ox

  40. cord during a road trip?

  41. Well, anybody thirty and under would have a hard time

  42. serning the ox cord, yes, But for me that's no

  43. problem at all. So I just I've learned, you know,

  44. over my life, like just give it to the kids,

  45. So that's not a problem. But uh, controllers caf so

  46. I would say, my initial reaction is to say caffeine,

  47. but I just don't want to acknowledge the fact that

  48. it's actually control.

  49. Yes, so control within there you go, trying to control

  50. the narrative by saying it's not caffeine. It's actually Yeah,

  51. for me, it'd be caffeine. I would say, the oxcord

  52. does not I'm in agree with you. That does not

  53. bother me a ton. But I do have three girls.

  54. Remember we do a road trip. It ends up being

  55. I mean the girliest music everage where I can only

  56. do it for like an hour. I'm like, all right,

  57. like what Disney show, No Taylor Swift, It's I mean,

  58. it's like, okay, enough is enough, so I'll let it.

  59. I'll let it go for a little bit. But eventually

  60. I'm like I or They'll be falling asleep in the

  61. back seat with a car with the music going, and

  62. I'm like, all right, it's time to wrap this up.

  63. Right, that's so funny? All right? Number two? If Surrender

  64. had a theme song, would it be I Surrender All,

  65. which is an old hymn. By the way, I let

  66. you know that? Do you know that?

  67. Yeah?

  68. Yeah, okay? Or let it go. It's a Disney song,

  69. by the way, And be honest, which one slaps one

  70. slaps harder?

  71. I let that GPD asked that which one slaps harder?

  72. Uh, yeah, I guess that's that would be chu GPT.

  73. She said it was chetchy.

  74. I mean, the Christian answer is I surrender all. But

  75. let's be real, let it go.

  76. There's no way any human can say that I surrender

  77. all slaps harder than let it go.

  78. Ah, come on, here we go, come on go. No way, dude, Trey,

  79. it is not gonna happening. This guy on stage for

  80. I Surrender All remix.

  81. Yeah, it's it's just let it go to Oh what

  82. is it all?

  83. To?

  84. Jesus? And dude, what the heck? It doesn't slap but

  85. let it go of course, you know, like took over

  86. the world. Huh. Now we didn't answer the question, though,

  87. which which If Surrender had a theme song, what would

  88. it be?

  89. I would say, I mean, it has to be let

  90. it go, just because it does slap harder.

  91. I think so too, although the obviously spiritually the lyrics

  92. of ice render All or the heart of every dissection,

  93. so it's hard to say let it go over that, so.

  94. I said, the Christian answer is I surrender all. But

  95. it's so funny.

  96. It's like it's like, if you think about the words

  97. of I Surrender All, it's literally the best ever. It's

  98. like it's like, oh my gosh, it's the heart of

  99. it where every Christian should strive to arrive. Right, And

  100. we're saying, let it goes Disney.

  101. Yeah, let's go Disney.

  102. All right, we're gonna go Disney. No, you know what,

  103. Jeff would be disappointed in me. I'm gonna I'm gonna

  104. represent Jeff here. I'm gonna say I surrender all has.

  105. To win, Okay, I agree? All right, all right, sounds good, Jeff?

  106. All right? Third one, last one? We got uh from CHADGBD.

  107. If surrender were a camp activity, would it involved trust falls,

  108. glitter or crying in a canoe?

  109. What?

  110. That's ridiculous? If surrender camp activity? Would it involve trust falls,

  111. glitter or crying in a canoe? And I gotta be honest,

  112. I don't understand where glitter comes from. Why glitter? Oh,

  113. you're just try you're trusting it.

  114. I have a theory about glitter. Yeah, I believe glitter

  115. is one of the worst things in the pits of hell.

  116. That is a theory.

  117. Yeah, so I mean like, if you give me, Oh,

  118. I shouldn't even say this out loud, but if you

  119. give me anything with glitter on it. And by the way,

  120. this is not a joke. So if nobody come up

  121. to me and give me something with glitter on it,

  122. because you don't understand, I would go from a one

  123. to a ten. You want to talk about make this

  124. Chris glitter, it's glitter, It's funny. Glitter anywhere is the

  125. worst invention in the entire world. It doesn't it doesn't

  126. help anything, right, It just gets everywhere and it's irritating

  127. and it just doesn't go away. So, uh so, I

  128. don't know what they have to do with trust.

  129. Yeah, I'm'm trying to figure that out one too, but

  130. I would say trust falls that seems fitting.

  131. Crying in a canoe?

  132. Is that maybe just like just I'm just imagining wanting

  133. a canoe crying and surrendering over They're like they're just

  134. like having a moment out there with God. Maybe I

  135. don't know.

  136. I was thinking of like taking somebody's oars and taking

  137. them in a canoe and they're crying because they have

  138. nothing because it's like, hey, trust me to come back.

  139. Oh okay, because it kind of which is sort of

  140. a trust fall. Yeah right, it's put yourself arms way

  141. and trust me.

  142. Yeah, and the glitter makes no sense, so I'm gonna

  143. go with the trust falls.

  144. Well yeah, because it seems to be the only one

  145. that is makes any sense at all. Thanks chat GPT

  146. for trying to be funny with weirdness. So yeah, so

  147. there it is. I think that surrender is a topic

  148. to it's hard to make surrender fun and that tried.

  149. Yes, do you agree it's hard to make surrender fun,

  150. isn't it?

  151. It depends what kind of surrender you're talking about, because

  152. you know, if we want to slap the hymns, there

  153. you go from the eighteen hundreds, there you go from anyway,

  154. it's probably the sixteen hundreds.

  155. I Surrender All. Don't know Jeff was here.

  156. It's twice we're calling on Jeff. What year was the

  157. hymn I Surrender All released?

  158. I Surrender All was published in eighteen ninety six?

  159. Well, I did say eighteen hundreds. It's almost nineteen hundreds, yeah,

  160. but zi yeah, four years that? Uh yeah, so how

  161. about that? All right, Kyle, Well, listen, that was a

  162. that was a difficult segments in some ways, wasn't it.

  163. And uh, and it's fitting because today we're talking about

  164. a difficult topic.

  165. That difficult topic surrender.

  166. Okay. In fact, I believe it's all weak. You could

  167. have a chance to be like a heavy week a

  168. little bit, right, because surrender is like one of the

  169. hardest things to do, you know. And yet that's kind

  170. of what we're talking about. We're talking about prayers in

  171. the Bible that have to do with surrender in some

  172. sort of way, right, because when it comes down to

  173. it's surrendering says okay, God, i'm us. A matter of fact,

  174. we're sort of talking about this week, aren't we trust

  175. con We're talking about trust, control, surrender, and they kind

  176. of all sit fit the same vein. But it's the

  177. idea of like releasing things from ourselves and then saying, Okay,

  178. I give it to you whoever it is. So anyway, Yeah,

  179. so today we're in Isaiah chapter number there's only eight

  180. verses today.

  181. Yep, starting in verse one, So Isaiah six one through eight.

  182. And I know you guys mentioned this a lotful reading

  183. out of the NLT. This is the Chronological Life Application

  184. Study Bible, but says this. It was in the year

  185. King Uziah died, and I saw the Lord. He was

  186. sitting in a lofty throne, and the train of his

  187. robe filled the temple. Attending him were mighty seraphim, each

  188. having six wings. With two wings, they covered their faces.

  189. With two they covered their feet, and with two they flew.

  190. They were calling out to each other, Holy, Holy, Holy,

  191. is the Lord of Heaven's armies. The whole earth is

  192. filled with his glory. Their voices shook the temple to

  193. its foundations. An entire building was filled with smoke. Then

  194. I said, it's all over. I am doomed, for I

  195. am a sinful man. I have filthy lips, and I

  196. live among people with filthy lips. Yet I've seen the King,

  197. the Lord of Heaven's armies. Then one of the seraphim

  198. flew to me with a burning coal he had taken

  199. from the altar with a pair of tongs. He touched

  200. my lips with it and said, see this call has

  201. touched your lips. Now your guilt is removed and your

  202. sins are forgiven. Then I heard the Lord asking whom

  203. should I send as a messenger to this people who

  204. will go for us? I said, here, am I send

  205. me that? That's verse eight right there?

  206. Yeah, so, yeah, what a crazy, crazy passage. Yes, I

  207. was looking at the notes, you know, in my application

  208. study a botblem, and it's interesting. Here it says only

  209. only here are the seraphim mentioned in the scripture. Isn't

  210. that crazy? I don't think I knew that.

  211. Huh.

  212. The Hebrew word seraphim means to burn and relates these

  213. creatures to the holiness of God. This is why they

  214. repeat Holy, Holy, Holy, before the throne of God. Some

  215. students think that the seraphim are the living beings described

  216. in Revelation chapter four, verses six through nine.

  217. But it's interesting, isn't Yeah. Yeah, I did not. I

  218. did not realize it as well. Yeah, that's the only reference.

  219. So whenever I think of this passage, I am, I

  220. can't help but think about in heaven. So this is

  221. in heaven before God, right yea. So here we have

  222. you know, cherif Seraphim and Cherifim floating around the throne

  223. of God, you know, continually crying out holy, Holy, Holy,

  224. you know, his glory and everything else. And then they

  225. fly over and they give Isaiah. They touch his lips

  226. with a burning coal, And I think to myself, like

  227. did that hurt? Do you think that at all? Or

  228. do you think like, okay, was it more like symbolic?

  229. It did stay hot? Right? It said the angel picked

  230. it up with tongues, So the angel didn't pick it

  231. up with his you know, wings, or with his hands,

  232. picked up with tongs and it said he touched his

  233. lips with it. So if the Bible describes it as

  234. hot and the angel had to use tongues or chose

  235. to use tongues, then then was it was it? I mean,

  236. it couldn't have been white hot coals that actually burn

  237. human flesh like it could be on this earth because

  238. he did say here, am I sin me?

  239. Yes, he spoke.

  240. After he spoke, if you touched me with hot, burning

  241. white coals, I would be screaming and I probably wouldn't

  242. be able to speak.

  243. Right.

  244. But I know, I know it's a goofy way to

  245. introduce this that this topic, right, but honestly, honestly, goodness,

  246. that's all I think of. I honestly think of like, Okay,

  247. we obviously know the symbolism, right, So if his sins

  248. have been purified. If they've been cleansed, then then that

  249. symbolism is it's a foreshadowing of Jesus, right, It's it's

  250. washing away our sins. In other words, in this case,

  251. you know, burning away our sins or purifying in the

  252. same way that like when you hate gold, right, all

  253. all the impurities rise to the top of gold and

  254. then it gets skimmed away and then the gold becomes

  255. pure after that. So there is a way to refine things.

  256. And remember in the Old Testament, they would have known

  257. about that, they would have they would have been they

  258. would have refined metals that way, right, So it's a

  259. it's an appropriate it's some you know symbolism. Fact, you know,

  260. whe this was seven hundred and fifty years or so

  261. before Christ, so it would be a very appropriate, you

  262. know word picture. But I just can't help it to

  263. think whether or not it was just symbolic or actually

  264. it hurt.

  265. Yeah, yeah, I think I think it's even there. It

  266. says that he had touched my lips with it. Now

  267. your cold touch your lips. Now your guilt is removed,

  268. your sins are forgiven. So I would hope that I

  269. wonder if there was that pain, that initial pain, but

  270. then a healing that came with it, and we knew

  271. that the forgiveness was not found in the coals. It

  272. wasn't the coals that forgave him. It was it was

  273. God obviously, who actually gave him the forgiveness. But I know,

  274. for me, one of the things that comes to mind,

  275. because I would mentioned this to you earlier, A lot

  276. of people reference, which I love the verse eight where

  277. he says he steps up and says, yes, go and

  278. say to it. Oh yeah, no, no, sorry, first aid he said,

  279. here am I send me? That's part so many people reference.

  280. And then when you backtrack and you look at all

  281. the events let up to this, this is this is

  282. This is kind of a great story, but it's definitely

  283. a little bit obscure and odd. But the thing is

  284. is this progression he goes through where he sees how

  285. unclean he is and the people he comes from, how unclean.

  286. There's this like brokenness he has. I don't know about you,

  287. but I guess for me, the reason why I love

  288. this is so many people reference this as a moment

  289. of like stepping up, stepping up to what God called

  290. you to do, and I don't know if you experienced

  291. this as well, Chris. I'm sure you have. But I

  292. feel like anybody who I've ever met who's really stepped

  293. out in faith, whether that's like a pastor, a speaker,

  294. a small group leader, a kids worker, a podcast, or

  295. whatever it may be, I feel like this is kind

  296. of the progression of somebody who's truly following Jesus. They

  297. go from that moment of realizing how broken they are

  298. and in need of forgiveness, then there's this cleansing that

  299. they have to have, and then God forgives them, and

  300. then they almost speak out of their like humil to

  301. say like hear my send me, and I love that.

  302. I think it's an encouragement for anybody who is maybe

  303. listening to this right now who doesn't feel adequate, they

  304. don't feel like they're enough. I think the closer you

  305. get to God, the closer you get to Jesus, you

  306. actually realize your brokenness, your humility, you realize how low

  307. you actually are. And it's in that moment that you

  308. can realize like, all right, God, thank you for saving me.

  309. I know it's not because of me, and therefore, like,

  310. use me wherever you may have. So Anyways, I just

  311. love this because I think it's just a reminder that

  312. he wasn't somebody who Isaiah wasn't somebody who necessarily believed

  313. in himself, thinking with himself. He's like, I am unclean,

  314. I am like he didn't believe in himself, but instead

  315. he had the picture of God, and he believed in

  316. what God had for him. I love that.

  317. Yeah, well, I mean it's an acknowledgment of I remember

  318. one time. It reminds it reminds me of the message

  319. that I heard long time ago by lou Gigmiel where

  320. he says God is the great. I am, and so

  321. of God as I am, you know what it makes

  322. you I am not I'm not yet right. And so

  323. that's really what Isaiah is saying here. And so you

  324. know you have no cho when you stand in front

  325. of your creator to realize you know, you are not worthy,

  326. you are not holy, you are a sinful man, you

  327. are undone, you are imperfect when you stand in the

  328. presence of God. And so it is a it is

  329. a I just remember hearing by the way side note,

  330. his message was so great because he talked about the

  331. stars in the sky in that message, and he said,

  332. you know, it's so interesting. Have you ever seen the

  333. movie Contact with Jody Foster. So one of the tags,

  334. you know, Matthew McConaughey, one of the taglines in that

  335. movie was if there isn't life out on other planets,

  336. then that sure is an awful lot of wasted space. Right,

  337. And they kept on saying it over and over again. Right,

  338. if there's not life another planet planets, and that's an all,

  339. that's a that's an awfully big waste of space. And

  340. and so I remember in this message where he talked

  341. about the great I am and I am not, lou

  342. Giglio said, think about all the stars, the galaxies, the universe,

  343. which he's fascinated with, by the way, And you know

  344. he's like, you know, subscribe to the Hubble telescope, all

  345. that kind of stuff, and and and he studies the

  346. universe and he says, what if God's creation of the

  347. universe was one giant billboard to let him know, let

  348. us know how big he is and how small we are.

  349. Think about that, yeah, right, because because if that's the

  350. purpose of it, then it's still not big enough. Right.

  351. But so, no matter how vast the universe is if

  352. we're the only life you know, on the in the

  353. in the universe, uh, you know, and in the galaxy, universe, whatever.

  354. Then you know, how is that possible? Well, it depends

  355. if God is displaying his majesty, then it's not even

  356. big enough. And so I just remember thinking to myself, man,

  357. that is a phenomenal point because God could have demonstrate

  358. his greatness and his creation, you know, surrounding us and

  359. then uh, and of course then it reminds us that

  360. how small we are.

  361. And so it's like when you go I mean go

  362. up to the up or up north, you look at

  363. the stars and you can actually see this sky clearly.

  364. It actually is this really weird thing where you see

  365. that and actually makes you feel you realize how small

  366. you are.

  367. Yeah.

  368. And the same way you can go to a big

  369. city the exact opposite. We surrounded by people in New

  370. York City and realize how small you are. It's weird

  371. how that can be surrounded by people or surround about

  372. nothing but the stars in the sky and realized, wow,

  373. this is a this is a big God. There's a

  374. big creation. But I love that he yeah, just his

  375. his whole mindset there actually Dave Wilson. Remember earlier this year,

  376. one of the statements he told me that somebody told

  377. him years ago, and he remembers this this statement where

  378. he says that, uh, I was just talking about the

  379. ideas of like, you know, leading things and the challenges

  380. that come with that. He goes, so, yeah, somebody told

  381. me years ago this statement says pressure is privilege. And

  382. it made me. It made me think, like I thought

  383. about that. I've said that to myself many times since.

  384. That's just this idea that sometimes the life we live,

  385. if we are feeling pressure, that this is a privilege.

  386. And here we have Isaiah who is not like somebody

  387. again who felt super qualified. He was somebody who was

  388. like realizing his need for God, his need for God's

  389. holiness in his life. And here he was stepping up

  390. and saying, here my send me. And I think sometimes

  391. people they probably look at someone like you, Chris or me,

  392. and they think, oh, man, you must be so confident

  393. all the time, you must totally know God's play, you

  394. must always feel ready to give an and like all that,

  395. but they probably don't realize that so often there's a

  396. lot of like, man, this pressure is a lot this

  397. is challenging. I think our mindset sometimes looks a lot

  398. more like where Isaiah came from and what he's going

  399. through versus what people maybe see on a stage or

  400. on a podcast.

  401. Yeah, yeah, for sure it is. Hey, So I was

  402. looking at these notes and here's the thing. We don't

  403. have adequate light above me because it's a new studio.

  404. So I want you to read it because you have

  405. better eyes than me. I actually believe or not, I

  406. think this is worthy of reading. Yeah, it's a note

  407. about Isaiah. Sixth the message, and it says for observations

  408. about Isaiah. It says, number one, he saw the Lord.

  409. Number two he saw himself, and you know verses one

  410. through four, five or seven. Verse eighty saw the need

  411. and then the nation he could not see nine through thirteen.

  412. Just sure to read through that.

  413. Yeah, okay, gotcha.

  414. I just want to hear it.

  415. Yeah. So, first one is he saw the Lord. As

  416. you mentioned verses forty. We assumed that Isaiah was in

  417. the temple when this marvelous event occurred, but we cannot

  418. be sure the temple referred to in verse one as

  419. the Heavenly Temple rather than Solomon's Temple. King Ziah died

  420. in seven forty BC and was one of Judah's greatest leaders,

  421. even though in his latter years he was disciplined for

  422. disobeying God. A great king may have left his throne

  423. on earth, but the greatest king was still seated on

  424. the throne of heaven. According to John twelve forty one,

  425. this was the Lord Jesus Christ. So yeah, he saw

  426. the Lord. Then he saw himself by the way in

  427. that great information, that great, it's great hireat then he

  428. saw himself. This is Verses five through seven. The sight

  429. of a holy God and the sound of the holy

  430. hymns of worship brought great conviction to Isaiah's heart, and

  431. he confessed that he was a sinner. Unclean lips are

  432. caused by an unclean heart. Isaiah cried out to be

  433. cleansed inwardly, and God met his need. If this scene

  434. had been on earth, the coles could have been from

  435. the bronze altar where sacrificial blood had been shed, or

  436. perhaps from the censor of the high priest in the

  437. day of Atonement. Isaiah's cleansing came by blood and fire,

  438. and it was verified by the word of the Lord.

  439. And then the last part here verses eight. As he

  440. saw the need the nation needed the Lord, and the

  441. Lord wanted a servant to minister to the people. Isaiah

  442. volunteered to be that servant. He did not discuss his

  443. call with God as haid Moses and Jeremiah, but accepted

  444. the appointment and made himself available to his master. Never

  445. underestimate what God can do with one willing worker. We

  446. have an even greater need for laborers today, and we

  447. have tremendous opportunities for sharing the Gospel with a lost world.

  448. And then it says this, are you one of God's

  449. willing volunteers? That's great? Yeah, pretty good stuff.

  450. Yeah, isn't that great? Yeah? And so Isaiah obviously concludes

  451. with the statement and says, here am I send me?

  452. Or here I am send me? Right? Yeah? And that

  453. is the model prayer for any of us. So, you know,

  454. whenever God wants us to do anything, you know, when

  455. it comes to any one of God's commands, and sometimes

  456. God will give us nudges in life. And sometimes the

  457. nudges aren't necessarily you know, attached to a black and

  458. white command of the Bible, Like if God says, hey,

  459. go encourage that friend or Hey, Kyle, I want I

  460. want to impress upon your heart to call this person

  461. and just encourage them or something. Right, So it's it's

  462. it's it's more specific. These nudges that God leads us

  463. to do sometimes, to the power of the Holy Spirit,

  464. can be just you know, personalized kind of things that

  465. God wants us to do to make a difference in

  466. this kingdom. So so whenever he gives us a command,

  467. whatever he gives us a nudge, whenever he asks us

  468. to do something or go somewhere. You know, the whole

  469. goal of life is to say, Okay, God, I'll do

  470. it here, I am send me right, whatever the need is,

  471. whatever you want me to do, whatever, whatever your plan is,

  472. How can I be used in this world? You know,

  473. just whatever you want me to do. I was meeting

  474. with a guy last week and he was saying something

  475. about retiring and he said that, you know, he felt

  476. pretty unfulfilled playing golf, you know, so many times a

  477. week and everything else. And he said, oh, it's fun,

  478. don't get me wrong, but it's a little unfulfilling. It's

  479. a little not satisfying. But it's that idea of like, Okay, God,

  480. what do you want me to do in the season

  481. of my life? You know, how are you going to

  482. use me for significance? And that's a challenge. It's a

  483. challenge to always have that mindset to say, God, whatever

  484. it is you want me to do, I surrender not

  485. to what I want, but to what do you want?

  486. So that's the prayer for the day. That's the kind

  487. of a summary. Then, is the dangerous prayer of surrender?

  488. Is hear my God, hear my send me. That's great,

  489. that's really good.

  490. All right, well, hey, that looks about our time. So

  491. we are to go ahead and bid you farewell and

  492. invite you tomorrow on the Bible, guys,