Bible Guys Classics: Matthew 6:5–15

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happy Friday!

Here we are!

I said happy Thursday before.

I know.

But it's even happier because..

Fridays are always happy. Let's be honest, Fridays are sort

of better. Always happy. Yes. TGIF. Friday, Friday, Friday! That's right.

And today we are wrapping up this week about prayers

of intercessory. They're actually in the middle of our sort

of bigger series, which is dangerous prayers. And prayers of

intercession have just been the theme this week. So anyway,

before we get to that, we have a segment that

is actually, it's actually called the praise report with a twist. Oh.

And it says this, Desiree says, each of you will

share something you're grateful for.

This is a good one.

But you must describe it like it's a dramatic movie trailer. Ooh.

So I went to chat GPT for mine.

Yeah.

So did I. Yeah. Okay, good. Do you want to

go first?

No, no, you go first. You go first.

So I told ChatGPT, well, should I just read it?

Read what you told ChatGPT?

No, or should I just read the trailer?

Read the trailer and then tell them what you told ChatGPT.

Okay, here we go.

Ready?

Yeah. You'll be able to figure out what I'm thankful

for really quick.

Okay.

Here we go. In a world filled with uncertainty, chaos,

and cheap, scratchy sandpaper disguised as toilet paper, one man

dares to hope for more. And then it happens. You

walk in and it's there. Soft, strong, quality, like wiping

with the embrace of an angel. Because when a company

cares enough to give you this kind of comfort in

a public restroom, just imagine the kind of excellence they

bring to everything else they do. This is gratitude. This

is luxury. This is hope.

Softness. Okay. So, good TP. That's what you're thinking.

In a public place.

In a public place.

That's it.

It's the little things, Chris. Yeah. It's just a little thing.

Well, I mean.

That's what you're grateful for.

No, no, no. That's a thing I'm grateful for.

Okay.

That's not the thing.

Okay.

It just said type in something you're grateful for.

Something you're grateful for.

Okay. I chose something small, Jeff.

So what did you type in and tell it that

you wanted it to help you with?

This is what I said. Write me a 90 second

dramatic trailer about something I'm grateful for. The thing I'm

grateful for is when I walk into a public restroom

and there is soft, quality, expensive toilet paper. Because there's

nothing worse than cheap toilet paper that feels like sandpaper.

Include the fact that providing this kind of care must

mean that whatever product they are selling must also be great.

You worked hard on that one.

I did, but I wanted it to be specific. All right.

Wow. Now I feel kind of corny about mine. Not corny.

Oh, because yours is serious and lovey?

Yes.

Okay.

Are you thankful for your wife?

Well, no.

Yes, I am, but that's not what I wrote. Okay,

this says, deep booming voice, slow build with swelling strings.

That's the, if you have a soundtrack in your head.

Okay.

In a world where small town kids may not make

it very far, one young man discovers that God's plan

is bigger than his wildest dreams. Blessed with a family,

entrusted with a ministry, and carried by a grace he

never earned, this fall he realizes the truth. It was

never about me. It was always about him.

Okay. All right. So, wow, that's a big encompassing thing.

Yeah, I just wrote, I'm grateful for God's provision for

me and my family, and I'm grateful for his incredible

blessings on the ministries he's given me. I'm just a

small town kid that can't figure out how I got

here from there.

Okay. Right. There you go. Yeah. All right. So, yeah,

yours was quite the opposite of mine. I went fun. Yeah. Well, TP.

Yeah. TP is a big deal to Chris, if you

don't know.

Well, it is.

It's maybe one of his top five most important things

in life.

Well, I got to tell you, there are times where

my wife, every once in a while, my wife will stray.

And she'll say, oh, I'll just buy this. And I rebel. Yeah? Yeah. No,

it's got to be Charmin Ultra.

Okay.

Yeah.

That's it.

Charmin Ultra is the thing in my home.

So, Chris is... You are very aware of comfort. Very aware.

Very aware.

Very aware of comfort. Temperature, humidity.

Yes.

The comfort of your seats. The clothes I wear. The

clothes you wear, scratchy. Are you wet?

Yes.

Right? All those things. So comfort is a very high

value thing. Yeah.

You know what? I never really... I've really put it

in those terms before, but yeah, all of that is comfort.

All of it. Even being wet.

Yeah.

100%.

Yeah. It's just your thing. Chad Asman, our executive pastor,

and I, we'll talk about that, right? That, ooh, hey,

we want to make sure this is comfortable for Chris.

Yeah. For real.

For real, because it's a big deal for you. We

want you to be comfortable and happy. So funny. I just...

I don't think about that very much.

The fact that you even consider that is what a

great thing.

Pajamas, slippers.

What a great thing that you even care.

Blanket on your couch. I can't believe you even care.

We do. That's so funny. We want you to be comfortable, man.

Good gravy.

I figure, you know what? Hey, this is what good

trainers do with racehorses. Make sure they're comfortable so when

it's time to hit the track, they run hard. And

I figure if you've got a good horse, ride it.

So keep him comfortable.

That's so funny. Yeah. Right. Yeah. The only thing you

have to do is make them comfortable. Yeah. It's really

not that hard. It's great.

Yeah. Yeah. Comfort is a thing. So good for you, man.

That was really a good one. I thought you, you

read it well.

Yeah. Thank you.

Thank you.

Well, it was, it was ridiculous. It was like, this

is hope. Yes.

This is hope.

It's so funny.

It doesn't take, well, it's easy to lose hope when

you're not comfortable. Yeah.

Sure.

If that's a high value for you.

Yeah. Well, And I've always, Chad's dreading what I'm, he's

hoping I'm not going to say this, but I always

poke fun of him at the deal that he made

with Heritage Toilet Paper at a church. Yeah, because it's

a deal. It's a company that says, hey, if you

buy all of our products.

Yeah, yeah, you get a really good deal.

You get a good discount.

Yeah, but it's not Charmin Ultra.

It's a far cry. So if you have sandpaper on

one end and you have Charmin Ultra on the other end,

it's sort of like over 50% this way. Yeah. It's

past the 50% mark toward the sandpaper.

Okay, well.

And I'm just like, I'm like.

So if we have any listeners left.

Right, right.

After this riveting segment.

Hey, we're only six minutes and 49 seconds.

Yeah, after this riveting segment, maybe what you need to

do is pray about it.

Oh, pray about the 12th of February? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Which, funny enough, Jesus taught us to pray.

You know, that is funny. Yeah.

But in the prayer he gave us..

Terrible transition. In the prayer he gave us... We're back

to terrible transition. Yeah, it's terrible.

It's awful. So here you go. In Matthew chapter six,

verse five, it says, when you pray, don't be like

the hypocrites who love to pray publicly on street corners

and in the synagogues where everyone can see them. I

tell you the truth, that is all the reward they

will ever get. But when you pray... Let me say

that again. But when you pray, go away by yourself,

shut the door behind you and pray to your father

in private. And then your father who sees everything will

reward you. When you pray, don't babble on and on

as the Gentiles do. They think their prayers are answered

merely by repeating their words again and again. Don't be

like them, for your father knows exactly what you need

even before you ask him. Pray like this. Our father

in heaven, may your name be kept holy. May your

kingdom come soon. May your will be done on earth

as it is in heaven. Give us today the food

we need and forgive us our sins as we have

forgiven those who sin against us. And don't let us

yield the temptation, but rescue us from the evil one.

If you forgive those who sin against you, your heavenly

father will forgive you. But if you refuse to forgive others,

your father will not forgive your sins. Well, there you go.

Well, there it is. And so this is an intercessory prayer. Uh,

because really it is, uh, praying, uh, on, on behalf

of others because the language is us, right? Mm-hmm.

Mm-hmm.

So it's not just me, it's us. It's almost as

if you're praying.

Give us today, forgive us our sins. Yeah. Let us.

Either, either this is a prayer praying for a family

unit or, or a community or people or a kingdom

or a nation, right? Right. But either way.

So it can be a personal prayer, but it's written

as a collective prayer.

It is, isn't it? Yeah.

Mm-hmm.

Yeah, it definitely falls into the intercessor category.

So this happens in Matthew chapter 6. So Matthew 5, 6,

Matthew 6 · chapter mention

and 7 are what we call the Sermon on the Mount,

which we referenced earlier this week in one of the

games we played. And in the Sermon on the Mount,

this is where Jesus teaches us. This is the longest

message he preaches in the Bible. And this is where

he teaches us almost all the things that have made

it into mainstream society that we know Jesus said. Turn

the other cheek, go the extra mile. Judge not that

you be not judged. He taught us the golden rule.

Treat people the way you want to be treated.

The truth will set you free. Right.

There's so many things in here that we know that

have kind of made it into pop culture. Jesus taught

us these things.

Here.

And then he teaches us to pray. But it's interesting,

this prayer thing is in the middle of three big

things that he's kind of referencing as my followers do

these things. He says, when you give, in verse two,

to someone in need, don't do as hypocrites do, looking

for attention. Then he says, when you pray... Don't go

out in public and always just be showing off with

your big fancy words. Instead, this is a private thing

between you and God. And then in verse 16, he says,

when you fast. So there's this expectation Jesus has that

his followers are going to be generous to others. They're

going to pray to God. They're going to fast on

behalf of their own situations and the needs of others, right?

Those three things, they're kind of an expectation. He doesn't

say if you pray or if you give or if

you fast, he says, when you do these things. And

so there's kind of this understanding that there are certain behaviors,

certain disciplines that Christians would do, followers of God would

be doing. And this is one of the expectations.

Which is the series that we're in now called Old School.

Old School behaviors and attitudes and disciplines and habits of

Christians and what Christians do.

So then prayer should be a habit is kind of

where I was going with that, right? This is one

of the things that God's people should be doing. And

so he's not saying don't ever pray out loud in

front of other people. You know, you read that beginning,

he says, hey, go by yourself, shut the door behind you,

pray to your father in private.

He's talking about the motivation.

He's talking about motivation, right? Because the Pharisees and some

of the hypocrites, they loved just getting everybody to pray

the big prayers, use the big words, deep voice, public humility,

and all that kind of stuff. And Jesus just saying

that's fake.

And that's, and by the way, that's, again, that's the

reason why my mind goes toward Not giving the Pharisees

credit because it's like they were just all about not

necessarily the heart of what's honest and real. The prayer

didn't matter as much as the glory. So anyway.

It doesn't say Pharisees. It just says hypocrites.

You are correct. But I think another version says Pharisees.

Another translation. Another gospel says Pharisees.

I'll look it up.

Yeah, look it up. Because that'd be an interesting tidbit.

But anyway, I love how he says, don't pontificate. Yes.

Don't use big words and just ramble on. And then

he says, don't use the words again and again. In

other words, what he's saying is repetition ain't going to

get you anywhere.

Right.

Right? And by the way, it's a little ironic because

then he lays out the Lord's Prayer that's commonly known

as the Lord's Prayer that people in a lot of faiths,

they actually repeat over and over. Like, hey, say 10

Our Fathers, right? Right. Which is repetition. And yet it

comes just a few verses after him saying, repetition's not

going to get you anywhere. Isn't that interesting? Right.

And by the way— You don't have to keep saying

the same thing over and over and over.

Right, right, right.

God, please forgive me. God, please forgive me. God, please

forgive me.

That's right.

And by the way, that's not— Say five Hail Marys.

Right. And that's not me putting down a certain faith

in general. I have actually a lot of respect for—

for the faith that I grew up in, which taught this, right?

You know, hey, say a bunch of, you know, our fathers.

I grew up in that faith and I have a

lot of respect for it. So that's not me disrespecting it.

But what I am saying is this, there is a

pretty fundamental difference in belief and that's okay. And so

I believe that this was not given to recite. Now,

do I believe reciting this prayer is a bad thing? No,

of course not. Reciting is a good thing. That's fine.

But the idea of saying like, okay, the greater the sin,

the more you have to repeat. Well, that's clearly what

Jesus said doesn't get you anywhere. Right. Besides that, here's

the other reason why we know that it wasn't given

to us as a prayer to recite. It's because in

another gospel, when he teaches us how to pray, he

leaves a certain part out. Right? So he taught us

to pray differently. So it's almost as if, you know,

you go to the other gospel and you say, Jesus,

don't you know the Lord's Prayer?

Right.

And Jesus is like, ah, that's because it's not something

to recite. It's a pattern, isn't it? It's a model.

It is Jesus saying, hey, here's the building blocks of

a great prayer. Yeah. Right? So anyway, was it the

Pharisees and the other gospels? No. It was not? No. Okay.

So I just attached it. Or in the other translation.

So I attached it.

Yeah, yeah.

Okay, okay. So... So maybe I'm thinking of the Pharisees

standing on the corner putting ashes.

On their heads. He calls them hypocrites.

Remember when they fast?

Yeah.

I think it's the Pharisees putting ashes on their heads.

Yeah.

When it's fasting.

So this idea, Jesus does teach us to be persistent

in prayer.

Yes.

So he's not saying it's wrong to come back to

God with the same prayer request you had last time.

Correct.

That's not wrong. So he teaches us to be persistent.

He talks about the woman who keeps coming back to

the judge. He talks about continuing to knock on the door.

Continue to ask, continue to seek, right? So he's not

saying that persistence is wrong. He's saying that going through

the motions over and over and over again is wrong.

So I was with somebody from another faith who also

is famous for praying. And we were getting ready to

go do a thing, but it was time for prayers.

And so I said, oh, okay. Hey, you know what?

I'll wait. He goes, oh no, I can get this

done real quick. I know this prayer. Come back over.

So I just remember. So then I asked him about it. Oh,

I say that prayer every time I'm in a hurry.

I just hurry up and do that one. I said, well,

it feels a little perfunctory. He goes, well, we're commanded to.

We have to pray five times a day. We have

to do this. And so then it turned into a

conversation about prayer. And I said, you know, Jesus said,

don't just keep saying the same words over and over

and over again, repetitively. What God's looking for is a

relational relationship. experience, right? Where we're speaking from our hearts.

God wants your heart. Right.

He wants our hearts. And in another translation, it says,

when you pray, don't babble on and on as the

pagans do. It's what the King James says, right? Here

he says, as the Gentiles do, because they think their

prayers are answered merely by repeating their words again and again.

An incantation, a spell, right? Some kind of, that's how

a lot of people feel. If I just chant this thing, om,

then I'm going to be able to get God's attention.

And what Jesus is saying, listen, it's not spells. It's

not incantations. It's not chanting that's going to get my attention.

It's a personal conversation between a child and his father.

That's what gets my attention. And then he goes, hey,

here's a good framework. If you're going to talk to

your dad about these things, first of all, acknowledge who

he is, right? Our father who art in heaven. So

we're acknowledging who he is. Hallowed be your name or

in this one, may your name be kept holy. That's

the meaning of it. What we're doing now is we're

celebrating him for who he is. That's really what you're

doing there. You're the creator. You're the provider. You're the

one that is not bound by this earth or no

problem is too big for you. That's what we're doing.

We're having a conversation. It's not specifically those words. It's

that attitude. And then when he says, may your kingdom

come soon, and may your will be done on earth

as it is in heaven, is saying now, and you're

in charge. So I recognize who you are. I recognize

that there's nothing you can't do. And so I want

you to do what you decide is best.

Right.

That's really what you're saying there.

Yeah. So the building. So you're just boring me.

Yeah. Sorry about that. You bore me. Chris is bored

by prayer.

So the building blocks that I was referring to earlier

are number one is declare God's greatness.

Yes.

And then the second one is acknowledge our dependence.

Right.

Our dependence for what? Our dependence for his, you know.

Give us today the food we need.

Yeah, the food.

Forgive us our sins.

Forgive us of our sins. And so there's a list

of things that were dependent on him. But declare God's

greatness is the first building block, which I love. I

love that most of us learned it. Hallowed be thy name, right?

Yeah.

And it says here, may your name be kept holy.

But another translation for hallowed be thy name, actually a

better translation, is great is your name. Hallowed means great.

Great is your name. And that's what it is. It's

declaring God's greatness. It's recognizing just who it is you're

praying to in the moment.

I'll push on that just a little bit. Holy is

what hallowed means. Hallowed means set aside. Yeah.

So a better translation is holy.

Holy is your name. It's holy, but because your name

is set aside, it's greater than every name. It's beyond, right?

So it's not wrong. It's just... You know, to say

great is your name. But his name is only great

because it's so far beyond all the rest of ours.

That's the idea.

She's saying greatness would be a byproduct of the real translation,

which would.

Be more accurately like holy. Yeah, yeah.

So holy is your name.

Right, right. But we think of holy wrong. Right. We

tend to think of holy as like without sin. Of course,

that's a word. That's a meaning of it.

Yeah.

But holy means set apart. That's really what it means

at its foundation is it's, It's been set apart for God,

only for God's use, only for God's benefit.

Which that could be the idea of great.

Yes, and that's it. As your name is so far

set apart from ours, it's almost incomprehensible how great you

and your name are compared to us little people. Yeah, yeah.

So it's both, it's like flip sides of the same coin.

Right. Yeah. It's very interesting. Yeah, and then he goes

on and he asks for dependence on all these different things.

And I think that in the end, I think God

wants us to, concentrate on ourselves because he removes everybody

else out of the equation. He says, get yourself into

a private place to pray. So now again, like you said,

praying in public is not wrong, but he's talking about

your motivation for prayer. And he says, hey, when you

pray go away by yourself, shut the door behind you

and pray to your father in private, then your father

who sees everything will reward you. And what he's really

saying is, he's saying like, don't do it in public

for the wrong motivation. If you do it in private,

your father's the only one that needs to hear you, right?

Other people don't need to hear you. It's fine if

they do on occasion, that's not what he's saying. What

he's saying, your motivation for your reward for your prayer

Only needs to be your father. Yes. Right?

Yeah. Well, there's an intimacy in this. Jesus prayed publicly.

Correct.

Many times.

All the time.

Oh, Father, help me do this so that people would

see how great you are. Many times Jesus prays publicly.

But there's a public conversation I have with my friends

and the thousands of people who attend Heritage Church and

all the people who listen online. And then there's also

the intimate family conversations that only me and my wife

and my kids are having.

Right.

And what Jesus is inviting you to is if you

only participate in public prayer.

Right.

One, don't be prideful like the Pharisees or the hypocrites

are here. That's one. Don't just do it for your

own attention spiritually and going through the religious ritual of

saying your incantation, you're chanting. But do you know what

I think what he's trying to do is he's trying

to say, don't you know, there's an intimate conversation you

can have with God. That's private. That's not for everybody else.

Right.

Thanking God for the food at the dinner table is

very different than the kind of conversation that you can

have with God privately. And that's what he's inviting us to,

is this intimacy with God that you can't have in public.

Yeah. Have you ever met anybody with a prayer closet? Yeah. Yeah.

Lots of people.

Yeah. Where they actually have a dedicated closet or space

where it's just a prayer thing. Yeah. I have a

good buddy of mine.

My pastor growing up had one.

Did he? I have a good buddy of mine who

bought a building in Macomb County somewhere to run a business.

And he's a mechanic. So he's always greased up and

always covered in grease and oil. And he has an

upstairs that will never be finished because of something with

the city, blah, blah, blah. So he has this upstairs

that could be remodeled and be this whole second floor

where you could put a business. I mean, it is

a monstrosity of a place. But he can't do it.

So it's this wasted space. And it's a big, long story.

So he has this big, huge staircase. And he has

what he has now named the upper room. And he says, well,

what do I do with this? And he says, I know. Well, actually,

it was his wife who said, I'll create a prayer space.

And so it's this one little area that is near

a bay window near the front of the place. And

she's just decked out this wooden unfinished area. And then

she's made this little haven. And they call it the

upper room. So from time to time, he'll be having

a bad day at work. And he's like, I'll be back.

Mm-hmm.

Right? And he just walks up the stairs and they're like,

there he goes.

He's going to the upper room.

He's going to the upper room.

Yeah.

Isn't that amazing? Yeah. But it's a dedicated space. And

if you think about it, it's very much like this concept, right?

It's a prayer closet, so to speak. It's a very

big one. But he's like, I want to be in

private and I want to go to my Heavenly Father.

And in this case, he's able to do it in

the middle of his day where he can come back

down and say, okay, let's go. Yeah. Good to go.

But it's great.

So. So then we ask God to provide what we

need for today. We don't worry about tomorrow. Just Lord,

provide for us today. We confess our sin, which I

think is important. It's interesting. Most of us start off

with our sin. God, I'm sorry for my sin. I'm sorry.

I don't deserve to be talking to you. Would you

forgive my sin?

Or our requests.

Yeah, yeah. Or we ignore our sin and just go

straight to, hey, this is what I need. So we

got to start off with who God is and the

fact that God's in control and it's his will. But

then we do get to these other things. Here's what

I need. Would you forgive my sins? And then he says,

forgive us our sins as we have forgiven those who

sinned against us. And so, you know, there's a passage

in the Bible that says we love because he first

loved us. Paul challenges us with the idea that we

should forgive because we've been forgiven. Same idea. And Jesus

actually says those words. If you forgive those who sin

against you, your heavenly father will forgive you. But if

you refuse to forgive others, your father will not forgive

your sins. That's a really Strong statement.

That's a strong statement. Right?

But we talked about forgiveness yesterday, didn't we? Yeah, that's right.

Talking about that. I'm not saying what you did is okay.

All I'm saying is I'm giving God the responsibility of

bringing justice, not me. Right? I'm giving up my right

to prosecute.

I was just going to make note of this note

in my Bible. It says, this prayer begins with God's interests,

not ours. God's name, not ours. God's kingdom, not ours.

And God's will, not ours. Hmm. Yeah, we should not

ask anything. Yeah, it's just interesting.

Yeah, that's really good.

Well, hey, that looks like our time. And thanks for

joining us this week. Hopefully it's been a great theme

and a great thing to ponder on. But hopefully we'll

pick up next time with a different theme under the

umbrella of dangerous prayers. And we'll see you then.