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The Lake of Fire: The Final Defeat of Death | Rethinking Hell, Week 6

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  1. Welcome to the Kingdom Family Podcast, where

  2. we rediscover our identity as sons and daughters

  3. of Yahweh and learn to live the life of the Kingdom.

  4. Let's jump in to today's episode. All right,

  5. guys, welcome back for another week of rethinking

  6. hell. This week, we're going to be talking about

  7. the lake of fire and kind of what does it actually

  8. mean? because the lake of fire is not the triumph

  9. of wrath. It is the final defeat of death. Last

  10. week, we kind of explored the meaning of judgment

  11. and saw that biblical judgment is not revenge,

  12. but more along the lines of restoration. So a

  13. thought to wrestle with before we kick this one

  14. off is what if the lake of fire is not about

  15. God tormenting humanity? but about God destroying

  16. death itself. Just a thought to consider as we

  17. begin to dive into this. And so as we do this,

  18. I want you to think about the rethinking end

  19. time series that we did and remember what we

  20. learned about the book of Revelation. That it

  21. is full of symbols when it talks about beasts,

  22. dragons, horns, crowns. cities, all these different

  23. things, there is a lot of symbolic language.

  24. And the problem is if we read symbolic language

  25. as literal language, we misunderstand the message

  26. entirely. And so if you think back to the revelation

  27. discussion about what do these symbols mean,

  28. if you remember, we discussed and you can go

  29. back and listen to this. We discussed beast equals

  30. empires, horns would equal rulers, fire would

  31. equal judgment, and different things of that

  32. nature. But if you look at Revelation chapter

    Revelation 20:14

  33. 20 verse 14, it says this, then death and the

  34. realm of the dead were cast into the lake of

  35. fire. for the lake of fire is the second death.

  36. So I want you to notice something about this

  37. is that death and Hades is that word there. One

  38. of those words for hell. The realm of the dead

  39. is what it is. Death and the realm of the dead

  40. are both thrown into the fire. So now we have

  41. to ask ourselves a very real and genuine question.

  42. Are death and Hades people? And the answer to

  43. that question is no they are enemies they are

  44. concepts they are forces the lake of fire is

  45. about destroying what destroys humanity think

  46. about that let's look at um first corinthians

    1 Corinthians 15:26

  47. chapter 15 verse 26 and it says and the last

  48. enemy to be subdued and eliminated is death itself

  49. so the final enemy is not people the final enemy

  50. is death All right, we can look at Isaiah chapter

    Isaiah 25:8

  51. 25 verse 8 in the passion translation. It says

  52. it is the gloom of death He will swallow it up

  53. in victory forever and God Lord Yahweh will wipe

  54. away every tear from every face I'm just looking

  55. here to see there's some notes on that verse

  56. I don't believe any of those are important for

  57. this conversation at the moment, but so let's

  58. read that again It is the gloom of death, he

  59. will swallow it up in victory forever and God,

  60. Lord Yahweh will wipe away every tear from every

  61. face. So the lake of fire is the image of death

  62. that is being swallowed. It has absolute zero

  63. to do with human endlessly burning, with humanity

  64. burning. the wicked burn none of that it has

  65. nothing to do with humans endlessly burning it

  66. is death that is ending all right let's look

  67. at some other scriptures here let's look at first

    1 Corinthians 15 chapter mention

  68. corinthians chapter 15 and we're going to read

  69. verses 54 through 58 and it says this then when

  70. our dying bodies have been transformed into bodies

  71. that will never die This scripture will be fulfilled.

  72. Death is swallowed up in victory. O death, where

  73. is your victory? O death, where is your sting?

  74. For sin is the sting that results in death, and

  75. the law gives sin its power. But thank God. He

  76. gives us victory over sin and death through our

  77. Lord Jesus Christ. So my dear brothers and sisters,

  78. be strong and be movable. Always work enthusiastically

  79. for the Lord, for you know that nothing you do

  80. for the Lord is ever useless." I'm going to read

  81. those same verses in the mirror paraphrase. It

  82. says, Your victory is not a maybe because of

  83. the magnanimous doing of Jesus Christ. It is

  84. a given. For this reason, you can afford to be

  85. absolutely settled and rock solid and face persuasion

  86. and always ready to go beyond where you would

  87. have gone before. Your doing now is inspired

  88. by your knowing that you are in Him. If His resurrection

  89. is yours, then His victory over sin and death

  90. is equally yours. My friend, because we are included

  91. in that finished work of Christ, His resurrection

  92. is our resurrection. His victory is our victory.

  93. So when I believe it's Paul that tells us in

  94. Colossians that Jesus has removed the power of

  95. guilt, sin, and shame, He didn't just remove

  96. that from Himself. You can walk in that victory

  97. just as much. And that's good news. Here's another

  98. long scripture we're going to read. We're going

  99. to read Hebrews chapter 2. I'm going to start

    Hebrews 2 chapter mention

  100. in verse 7, and we're going to read several verses

  101. here, but I think it's important as we're talking

  102. about this. It says, It seems that man briefly

  103. descended to a less elevated place than Elohim,

  104. yet he is crowned with God's own glory and dignity

  105. and appointed in a position of authority over

  106. all the works of his hands. God's intention was

  107. that human life should rule the planet. He subjected

  108. everything without exception to His control.

  109. Yet looking at the human race, it does not seem

  110. that way at all. Verse 9, But what is apparent

  111. is Jesus. Let us then consider Him in such a

  112. way that we may clearly perceive what God is

  113. saying to mankind in Him. In the death that he

  114. suffered, he briefly descended to a seemingly

  115. less elevated place in Elohim in order to taste

  116. the death of the entire human race. And in doing

  117. so, to fulfill the grace of God and to be crowned

  118. again as a man representing all of mankind with

  119. glory and highly esteemed honor. He towers in

  120. conspicuous prominence far above all things.

  121. He is worthier author and their conclusion. All

  122. things exist in him and through him he now triumphantly

  123. leads everyone as sons to glory through a perfect

  124. salvation. The extent of the suffering he bore

  125. is the measure of the perfection of the salvation

  126. over which he presides. Because both he who carried

  127. out the rescue mission as well as those he saved

  128. and restored to innocence, which is us, you and

  129. I, originate from the same source. Therefore,

  130. he is not ashamed to introduce each and every

  131. one individually as his siblings. He says, I

  132. will reveal your name to my brothers and sisters,

  133. their own in this great family reunion. I will

  134. celebrate you in song. I will rest my confident

  135. trust in him. I am surrounded by the children

  136. whose God has given whose which God has given

  137. me. I am one of them. The fact that the children

  138. are flesh and blood beings by design Explains

  139. the incarnation in the genius of God the word

  140. was always destined to become flesh He lived

  141. and died in a body as fully human as ours Dying

  142. our death was his doorway into our deepest fears

  143. He thus disengaged the dominion of the death

  144. that trapped the human race in a fallen mindset

  145. As a fellow human, he redefined death and delivered

  146. them from the lifelong dread of death. Last part

  147. here. This is why it is so relevant to understand

  148. that Jesus did not arrive on the planet in a

  149. celestial form. He is the seed of Abraham. He

  150. therefore completely assimilated every detail

  151. of this human family so that as chief priests

  152. standing face to face before God, his compassion

  153. and unwavering faith would prevail effectively

  154. over the lies that they believed about themselves.

  155. having fully accomplished their at -one -ment.

  156. He experienced mankind's temptation with the

  157. same intensity and under the same scrutiny and

  158. powerfully represents them with immediate effect.

  159. So Christ defeated all of this. Understand, I

  160. tell our group this all the time, that prepositional

  161. words are important. He didn't just defeat this

  162. for us. Christ defeated death as us. We are now

  163. one with Him. Whatever He did, we were mystically

  164. included in the finished work of the person of

  165. Christ. So when He defeated death, He was not

  166. just doing this for us. He was doing this as

  167. you and I. So what is the point of this? Death

  168. has effectively been defeated and it's going

  169. to be destroyed in the lake of fire. That's important

  170. for us to understand that death and Hades again

  171. Hades often translated into hell is going to

  172. be destroyed in this lake of fire All right,

  173. let's move on. Let's look at Revelation chapter

    Revelation 21 chapter mention

  174. 21 And we're just going to read verses 1 through

  175. 5 It says then I saw a new heaven a new earth

  176. for the old heaven and the old earth had disappeared

  177. and the sea was also gone and I saw the holy

  178. city the new Jerusalem Coming down from God out

  179. of heaven like a bride dressed for her husband

  180. I heard a loud shout from the throne saying look

  181. God's home is now among his people He will live

  182. with them and they will be his people God himself

  183. will be with them He will wipe away every tear

  184. from their eyes and there will be no more death

  185. or sorrow or crying or pain all these things

  186. are gone forever. And the one sitting on the

  187. throne said, look, I am making everything new.

  188. And then he said to me, write this down for what

  189. I tell you is trustworthy and true. Verse three

  190. in the mirror says in a glorious announcement

  191. was Harold, Harold, excuse me, heralded. out

  192. of the throne behold God's tabernacle is with

  193. humanity he has taken up permanent residence

  194. in human skin to be with them and the closest

  195. possible associate of oneness they are his own

  196. possession his tribe and he is their God inseparably

  197. pay attention to the language here I love this

  198. inseparably entwined with them so after the lake

  199. of fire in Revelation chapter 20 we have this

    Revelation 20 chapter mention

  200. in Revelation chapter 21 and what appears but

    Revelation 21 chapter mention

  201. a new creation not eternal chaos it's not endless

  202. torment but this is renewal so fire is not the

  203. end of the story restoration is okay let's look

  204. at this Revelation chapter 20 verse 14 says then

    Revelation 20:14

  205. death and Hades the realm of the dead were cast

  206. into the lake of fire for the lake of fire is

  207. the second death so let's talk let's take that

  208. verse again and go look at what is death ask

  209. yourself what is death death is simply the separation

  210. from life death is destroyed in the fire pay

  211. attention to the language it's destroyed why

  212. does that matter because so many people were

  213. taught to fear this lake of fire. But what if

  214. the lake of fire is not the terror of humanity,

  215. but it's the triumph of God's victory? What if

  216. the fire that you feared is actually the fire

  217. that removes that which is destroying you? That's

  218. something for us really to wrestle with and to

  219. consider. when we're discussing this lake of

  220. fire because it's in this lake of fire that death

  221. in hades is destroyed so okay here's another

  222. question just to consider if hell is supposed

  223. to be eternal because again The word Hades go

  224. back to the beginning of this series and we discussed

  225. Hades, Sheol, Gehenna, and Tartarus. All four

  226. of those words translated into our English word

  227. hell. Hades and Sheol were... Let's see, let

  228. me think here. Sheol would have been the Hebrew

  229. version. Hades would be its sister word, I guess,

  230. in the Greek. Both of them simply meaning the

  231. realm of the dead. But if that place is destroyed

  232. in this lake of fire, how can hell now be eternal

  233. if it is in fact destroyed with death in this

  234. lake of fire? Again, don't check your brain at

  235. the door. Learn to wrestle with these questions.

  236. Again, not important that you come to the same

  237. conclusion I have. That's not the purpose of

  238. this. My purpose here is to bring you a different

  239. viewpoint, a fresh set of eyes, if you will,

  240. and to give you hope in the situation and not

  241. to be what we've done in the Western world and

  242. use this as a manipulative terror tactic to get

  243. people to repeat a prayer so we can have more

  244. people praying the prayer. This is not supposed

  245. to be a manipulation game Again, if hell was

  246. as big a deal as we make it in the Western Church

  247. Then acts fails to do the job and quite frankly,

  248. so does the Christ so does Jesus Because he does

  249. you know, I've grew up hearing things I've grown

  250. up hearing things such as Jesus talked more about

  251. hell than he did anything and that simply not

  252. True. At all. Hear me very clearly. If you go

  253. and study this stuff, that is not his primary

  254. topic. So we have to stop and pause and learn

  255. to ask questions and wrestle with these thoughts.

  256. and really learn to have a more hopeful outlook

  257. in life and trust that the Holy Spirit is big

  258. enough to do what the Holy Spirit needs to accomplish.

  259. The Holy Spirit knows how to speak to you and

  260. I as one that is one with Him. He knows how to

  261. speak to us. He's not up there going, how do

  262. I speak to this child? He's one with you. You're

  263. one with Him. He knows how to get your attention.

  264. We've got to trust that the Holy Spirit is actually

  265. big enough to do the job that's been entrusted

  266. for the Holy Spirit to do and to bring the transformation

  267. within you and I. But yet, it's like I have said

  268. many, many times, we seem as the body of Christ,

  269. at least in the western part of the world, to

  270. have more faith in what Adam did than what Christ

  271. undid and what Christ completed. And I promise

  272. you one of those had a greater impact than the

  273. other one. And I will just let you wrestle which

  274. one had the greater impact. Something to really

  275. think about. So short episode this week. but

  276. it was about learning that the lake of fire is

  277. not some kind of celebration of punishment it

  278. is the destruction of death and if that's true

  279. which again I believe it is then death does not

  280. win and hell does not win but Christ does every

  281. single time it goes back to a saying I like to

  282. use light overcomes darkness 100 % of the time

  283. And another illustration I like to use is love

  284. overcomes evil 100 % of the time. It's like Jason

  285. Clark says from the Rethinking God with Tacos

  286. podcast, I challenge you, if you're listening

  287. to this, go look that podcast up and listen to

  288. the many different conversations on there. But

  289. a thing that Jason Clark says many times is love

  290. is the long game. Remember and I think we've

  291. discussed this before I really don't remember

  292. going back but Remember that the kingdom is like

  293. a seed and a seed takes time That's important

  294. for us to remember a seed takes time Love will

  295. overcome evil a hundred percent of the time,

  296. but love is also the long game We're not looking

  297. for instant movement in that moment It's a seed

  298. planted, it's a seed watered, and it's a seed

  299. beginning to grow. So I'm hoping that this is

  300. helping you to get a more hopeful outlook as

  301. we think about the topic of hell. It's not supposed,

  302. listen, anything that brings you fear or worry

  303. or anxiety, you have the responsibility to challenge

  304. that. Because perfect love comes to cast out

  305. all fear So perfect love is casting out all fear

  306. and something like this is bringing you fear

  307. wrestle that out Because it's not from God So

  308. my friends, I hope this week helped on discussing

  309. the lake of fire and what it actually Is doing

  310. it's destroying hell and it's destroying the

  311. the realm of the dead So I'm hoping this kind

  312. of help bring some clarity to that and about

  313. the second death and all that kind of stuff Next

  314. week. We're going to Look at something different

  315. on the concept of hell. So I will see you next

  316. week. Be blessed my friends Thanks for spending

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