CRAY01: The Ultimate Thanksgiving Feast Smackdown

All right. Hey, and we are broadcasting in somebody's beatboxing. That was weird. I guess

Ray's really excited because, hey, normally we do the beta show here with the Church Digital

and Stadia Church Planting. It's Thanksgiving. It's the end of 2020 and dang it, I needed a break.

So we are not doing the beta show. If you have questions that you are so desperate to text in,

text your questions to 484-324-8724. We'll do them for a future show. Just last night,

I got a question that it was like, oh my gosh, I totally want to address this next week because

we're not doing it tomorrow because today, dang it, I want to goof off because that's just what I

want to do. I want to apologize. I want to apologize in advance to that person because we will forget

by next week. So text Jeff again the question next Tuesday because we will forget. I totally put it

in Slack. I programmed the reminder. There's no way we're forgetting. It's going to happen. It was a

good question. I even answered it for the guy. Hey, here's the response via text. You'll want to

hear it in a future show, but we'll get there. 2020 is cray-cray, right? And so it's crazy. I never

thought in January I would even use the word cray-cray. I'm not really the cray-cray kind of guy.

And even the language of cray, it's just so summarizing what this year has been. And so I

decided, Hey, why not? Right. We got the internet. I'm going to create a show and we're going to call

it cray. That's all it is. It's going to be cray because we're just going to talk about the crazy

topics, whatever I want to talk about because dang it, it's the end of the year, 2020 is nuts.

And we just want to goof off. So for the first episode of cray, it's going to be the ultimate

Thanksgiving smackdown. I brought in some guys here and I just really wanted to talk about what

Thanksgiving looks like. And let's talk about, cause it's so many different ways, so many different

traditions, so many different options. Dang it. Let's figure out in 2020, let's figure out what the

best of it is. And so this is what we're going to do here with the first episode of cray. We're going

to figure out what the greatness of Thanksgiving is. And so we've got Ray DeArmas, of course, who is a

long time co-host here with the church digital, a digital pastor over at Christ Fellowship Miami,

bringing on some couple of guys. These were digital pastors, our digital pastors with, that were part

of an online Bible study I did a decade ago or last month, I don't know, 15 years ago, 1984 before the

internet was really around something like that. So I've, I've got Mark, Mark Brandt from Grace, no,

Lutheran, Hope Lutheran Church, Church of Hope Lutheran. It's some mixture of that. And so

Lutheran Church of Hope, hopefully, you know, that's the beauty of live. Normally I would like

record that four times and take forever. Now we're just going to leave the screw up out there and it's

going to be great. All right. And so we've got, we've got Andy Mage here from, from the state of

Florida hanging out in Tampa. And so love what's happening over at Bay Hope Church. And they are doing a,

I mean, both these guys are doing phenomenal jobs in this season with it. Really excited about what's

coming out of some of the stories coming out of Mark Church and how they're doing some different

things with, with VBS in the summer and how it's expanding in. Andy Mage has been doing a phenomenal

job of really exploring this idea of like a content centered church. That's not just content centered,

but drives towards, you know, towards the disciple making process. But like I said, I'm not working

today. I'm taking a break. So that's all we're going to talk about online. We may sneak some stuff

in later, but it's not about that. So here, let's do this. I really want to dig into, since we're doing

Cray 01 here, Ultimate Thanksgiving Smackdown. I want to kick it off right here. We've got a series of

topics, questions, and I just want to open it up to the floor and let them goof off. All right. So

here we are. Question number one, salad, waste of space, or save it for the rabbits. Once again,

salad, waste of space, or save it for the rabbits. See, I object. I'm going to Phoenix write this and

I object immediately. It's on the East Coast. It's 1239. And I just had a salad for lunch. So are we

talking just Thanksgiving salad? So the judge would like to say at this point that we are just talking

Thanksgiving day. I am all for a salad, 364 days of the year, maybe. But in context here, Thanksgiving

day, salad, waste of space, or save it for the rabbits. What are we saying? Waste of space. Waste of space.

Waste of space. Waste of space. Screw the rabbits. Unless it has a mayonnaise-based dressing of some sort,

like a seven-layer salad, I can get down with that. But just straight up salad and dressing, not for Thanksgiving.

If mayonnaise is really in with salad, is it still salad?

No. It is a plant-based fat treat.

It is. Absolutely. Like cob salad on the regular, right?

Exactly. Yeah, cob salad. Cob salad is just a vehicle for bacon and eggs.

Oh, heaven, yes. Right. Yeah. So salad, at this point, it is a waste of space on the table because

even – I haven't even seen a chef dare to throw down a salad at a Thanksgiving dinner just because it

doesn't even fit with the rest of the motif, right? Like there's other veggie dishes that we're going

to get into in this kind of thing, but the color green isn't necessarily a Thanksgiving thing unless

it's involving broccoli and cheese, right? So that's not really something that really goes down on a

Thanksgiving dinner. I've never felt more awkward wearing a green shirt online than I have right

now, Ray. Thanks for calling me out. You're welcome.

I didn't realize I was not Thanksgiving-themed when I got dressed this morning. Well, I thought I was

trying something new, but I guess not. So awesome. All right, good. So we are saying it's a waste of

space. Moving on, we've talked a lot about this idea of how we're just going to just eat all day.

It's like a come and go thing. It's not necessarily this. So best Thanksgiving appetizer. Best

Thanksgiving appetizer. Just opening it up. What are you guys thinking? Who wants to go first?

I'll go with it. It's the veggie tray. I feel like this is the one time a year you throw the ranch

dressing right in the center. You got veggies all around it to dip it in. You got olives on there.

You got pickles on there. You've got carrots. You got broccoli, cauliflower, and in addition to that,

Chex Mix. All right. The only way I'm going to interrupt here. Sorry, Andy. The only way I would

accept a veggie tray in this answer is if it involves some sort of bacon-wrapped, deep-fried

adjective in describing it. So even in preparation for this broadcast, I googled appetizers and found a

recipe for bacon-wrapped, deep-fried pickles. I have no idea. I am intrigued. I bookmarked it.

We will revisit at a later time. That would be an acceptable substitution. Yes. Very, very good.

All right. Somebody else. What's a good Thanksgiving appetizer heading into this thing?

I mean, I'm going non-traditional and I'm going to be a little nuts here,

but because we're such a football-oriented household around Thanksgiving time,

chips and salsa is always on the table for us.

Yes. That was literally going to be my answer.

Awesome. Andy and I are, you guys are going to find Andy and I are totally in sync.

Co-pastatic, man.

But we normally do, outside of 2020, we normally do a turkey bowl in the morning,

right? And then we come in. And so it's like the perfect chips and salsa opportunity. It's not

too filling. It tastes great. And it's something you can just leave on the table throughout the

entire party and you know it's going to go. So for us, chips and salsa kind of works really well.

Correct. And then if you want to up your game a little bit, my 14-year-old daughter,

she always makes hard-boiled deviled eggs every single year. And those right there,

just one or two of those plus some chips and salsa. And you're ready for the pre-feast nap. And then

you can wake up and actually feast and then take another nap and then just continue on with your

day.

Yeah. But deviled eggs are a main dish though. They're not an appetizer.

Really?

They're like a staple. Bring that on.

I go app on that one. That's interesting.

Yeah. I would go app. Like, okay, Mark, here's a question. Where do you stand on mozzarella

sticks? Fried mozzarella.

Oh, gosh.

Appetizer or meal?

Oh, that's an appetizer with, with, with, with, yeah, with the, yeah, with the, I can't even

think of the.

Mozzarella sauce.

The sauce.

The red sauce.

The red sauce.

Marinara.

Okay.

Yeah.

So you're, you basically just think of your heart, your deviled egg as a mozzarella stick

with mayonnaise. Cause you already talked about the mayonnaise. You already talked about,

you know, all this thing. It's a, it's a portable, um, protein packed fat bomb for you. That's

two fat bombs in the, what are we eight minutes into this thing? Yeah, we're rocking it.

Yep.

And Andy, since you're mentioning eggs and since we already talked eggs and bacon and the

cop salad deal, a little candied bacon with those deviled eggs, some pancake syrup and

some, some black pepper put in the oven for 10 minutes, change your life. Uh, I'm telling

you, throw that down. It's, it's a great app. It's good.

Yeah. All right. So just an impromptu question. Don't have a slide for this.

D, uh, defibrillator required or all of this that we're eating here. I think we just killed

20% COVID nothing. It's, it's Thanksgiving dinner. It's killing everybody. That's awesome.

Beautiful. Okay. Hey, I apologize for the COVID joke. That just got awkward. All right,

moving on Turkey, normal, whatever normal is versus deep fried. I'm gonna, I'm gonna call

myself out here. I don't know that I've ever had a deep fried Turkey. Oh, you are missing.

Well, that's just it. I say it and everybody who has, it's like, Oh my gosh, what's wrong

with you? So you guys tell me, it's a, it's a little bit, the deep fried Turkey is a little

bit like Valhalla. Um, you know that it's on the other side of pain and misery. Uh, but

you know that once you get there, it's going to be joyous, just a joyous celebration of all things,

Turkey and poultry and everything. Uh, the only problem is, is that it's very dangerous and you

know, you have to, you have to be in a, in an area. So like you couldn't do it up North where there's

snow. Cause it would just, everything would blow up. Now in Florida where three of us are at,

all you gotta do is just take it out into the driveway and you can deep fry 14 turkeys if you want.

Yeah. If you want a rabbit hole to run down for about a half an hour, Google deep fried Turkey

fails. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You will see some seriously. Yeah. There's some, yeah, it's bad.

Yeah. It's akin to, it's akin to the 4th of July fails as well. It's like almost the same,

the same look. Yep. Nice. Yeah. A friend of mine who's a firefighter has actually told me that they

get more calls for that than they do for the heart attack stuff on Thanksgiving. They get more calls for

the, for the deep fried fails because so many people, the canister falls over or they're putting

it in like on the sacred pole and the thing splashes and then things go everywhere. But yes,

it is a worthy YouTube rabbit hole to jump down. So go for it.

Now, now I'm, I'm going to, I'm going to put something out there. Uh, I saw a meme floating

around. I think it was yesterday or the day before. And it was the, the cardboard testimonies

guy. I don't know if you've ever seen him, the, what, you know, he's always holding up the cardboard

thing. And he had one and it said, it said, uh, something to the effect of Thanksgiving

turkey is overrated. Convince me it's not. And I, I almost agreed with him. I'm a turkey

fan. Uh, like turkey lunch meat. I'm more of a fan of the turkey after the meal, you know,

the sliders and the, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. The actual turkey for the meal. I'm

not the biggest fan of, and Ray, you and I, before the, before the show here, we were kind

of talking about some alternatives here. So could you walk the fine folk of the internet

through what's going on with, with your family? And then I'll, I want to interject there.

Yeah. So, um, somebody in our daughter's class tested positive for COVID. And so we're being,

you know, very, very cautious and we're doing our own thing as such this year. We're going

to miss our other family members, but you know, we wanted to make sure and keep everybody safe.

And so I asked my wife, Hey, it's a non-traditional Thanksgiving. We're, we're four,

we're two, two adults and two kids. A turkey is a waste of time. And it's also a waste of food.

So I asked her, cause I've been asking this for years, if I could make ribs for Thanksgiving

and God bless her. She gave me the green light. And man, let me tell you, I just, before this

podcast, I was throwing the rub on Jeff had to text me. He's like, Hey bro, you jumping

in? And I was like, yes, I'm coming in now. But I was like massaging the rub into the ribs.

I was like, you know, elbow deep and rib and rub and all that stuff. It was amazing. And

so I'm fired up because tomorrow those suckers are getting cooked and I can't wait.

So, uh, the, you'll see the caption below Thanksgiving versus ribs giving. I, this last

Sunday, uh, we have some friends of ours in the neighborhood that are, they've got, I think

14 of them. No, they're, I think there's nine, seven, seven kids and two adults. So there's

literally nine people living in the house and then my five that live with us. And so we were

trying to do a friend's giving cause we weren't going to see him on Thanksgiving cause of COVID

and all the other things. Cause she's a nurse and we didn't want to track a thing. Anyway,

I said, what about cooking ribs and just, let's just do a gigantic ribs giving. And my wife said,

what do you mean by that? And I said, I have that Traeger out there. I have seven pounds of

country style ribs in the fridge. Uh, our neighbor had seven pounds of baby back ribs and then three

pounds of beef short ribs. So if you count that, that's 17 pounds of ribs. And we cooked them all up.

Uh, we cook some pork chops up. We cook some wings up. We cooked all the Thanksgiving sides up.

And I tell you what, the ribs were the standout performer of that meal. And so I'm,

I'm putting forth in 2021 hashtag ribs giving. And I want people to join Ray and I on this crusade

to get rid of the Thanksgiving Turkey and instead put down the Thanksgiving pig. Who's with me?

I'm with you. I'm with you. I told my wife. Well, you said join us. That means I'm coming

to Florida then to join you guys. Done. We got, we got space. We got, we've got 17 pounds of ribs.

So we're good. Come on down. You're going to see it. Florida man changes turkey out for ribs

on Thanksgiving. It's going to be perfect. Done. I just bought ribsgiving.com. So we will,

we will market this, promote this, and we're going to make it, make it a thing. I got to tell you,

I too. I'm not a big Turkey fan day of we'll get to this later. Day after I love me a reheated

Turkey. It's awesome day of thing. Fortunately, my mom who does the cooking of the Turkey is in a car

driving and is probably not watching this broadcast right now. So mom, if you do watch this on demand,

I'm sorry. I love your Turkey. It's awesome. So, all right, let's, let's, let's move on here,

but there is something there towards this ribs giving thing. Hey, um, gravy with or without

giblets. No giblets without. Thank God. All right. So let's, let's move on quickly. I, I just started

world war three at my house with that question because my father is like the giblet king.

And it's like, it's disgusting. I don't understand why, why would I want to eat that anyway?

You have to make the gravy though, with the drippings from the Turkey, that's going to give you

the best gravy, but throwing you and you can use some of the, the burnt stuff that's on the bottom

of your roaster pan to make that really rich and flavorful. But it's a, come on. I feel you. Okay.

Moving on. Potato, sweet, baked, or mashed? Mashed. 100%. All of them. Mashed? Respect. I've got,

I'm a sweet potato guy. I really am. But that's also because Lauren makes it almost like it's a dessert,

you know, like it's got bananas, sweet potato, and then brown sugar, cinnamon on top.

So it's borderline dessert. It could hardly be called a side because it's so sweet. So yeah.

That's awesome. All right. So we're, we're saying all three. That, that makes sense for that.

Unsung hero on the plate. So I just listed off a bunch of things. What are we missing?

What's the one thing right now that you're like, this makes Thanksgiving, but it's not listed here.

We haven't talked about it yet. Green bean casserole.

Oh, green, green bean casserole. Definitely. That's, that's, that's high.

That's just where you can't, here's my, I'll tell you my one fail. So green bean casserole is one of

those things that if you, you have to go simple on it. You have to go the, you know, canned cream of

mushroom soup, the, you know, canned green beans, the French's, you know, fried onions. Cause that's,

that's what people want. I one year got crazy. I bought, I bought a $60 mandolin from Pampered

Chef, you know, to slice my onions. I made my own fried onions. I made my own mushroom sauce to go

with this thing. And I got fresh green beans and I made that up. I was proud of this dish that I

brought to our Thanksgiving. And everybody looked at me like, what did you do? You ruined this. I mean,

this was gourmet green bean casserole. And everybody looked at me like, you idiot. You just ruined the

best dish on the plate by trying to make this from scratch. Oh boy. This green bean casserole, if you

want to add it up, cost me $75 to make this thing. You know, when you, I mean, I got nice portobello

mushrooms. I made, it was a cream based, you know, sauce that went with it. And they just said, you could

have done this for five bucks. It would have been a lot better. Oh Lord. This is the reason some people crave

Taco Bell over like those, you know, artisanal cantina tacos and all that other

stuff. That's very nice. There's, there's probably a ministry implication in there somewhere just

because you can, does not mean you should. It's funny that this is like the pre Christmas episode,

right? Because everybody just wants their traditional Christmas music, but then we're like,

no bro, we're going to throw some U2 in there or something else. And they're like, dude, we just

wanted to sing joy to the world. Leave me alone. So that's how it goes for me. The unsung hero on the

plate. And this is just cause I'm a bread guy. Pillsbury Grands every year, I down like a thousand

of them. It's so simple. It's so easy. And yet every year I just, I gobble them all up. They're

amazing. I'm going to go, I'm going to have to go with the corn casserole. I don't know why,

but I, I just, I will grab two or three helpings of that just jiffy. And again, it has to be

the jiffy like out of the box. Give me a can of creamed corn and a whole stick of butter and

we're good. Whole stick of butter and anything Thanksgiving is good. There's some sugar in there

too, right? Yeah. I mean, that's sugar and butter. There's probably love and sugar and butter and

everything in there. Yeah. I'm good with all of it. All right. So we've got somebody, some of these

things, I'm sorry, Jeff, but some of these things you would never like, this is like a one time a

year. Like I can't think of another time of year. I'm like, man, green bean casserole, man, corn casserole.

It's just, but you have to have these things because it just is what your, your brain and your body

expect. It's that one day of the year you're like, like that cranberry jello that comes from the can,

like the cranberry sauce basically because you used it as opposed to. I mean, you pour it out,

it's still got the ribs from the can, you know, formed into the jello, but no time out of the year

are you going to eat that except on Thanksgiving. That's right. Totally true. Now does the cream,

the cranberry sauce, does it have like the, the cranberry bits in it or are we better off not,

you see, I would prefer no bits. I don't want the bits. I like like clean uniform. It's, it's just,

it's not ready for that. So Ray, what are you thinking on that? I think you go without it. I mean,

you know, if you're going to go for the whole motif, just let it come out of the can,

slide out of the can and let it jiggle on the plate a little bit before it comes apart.

I got Brian coming in as well. Brian, uh, most of stuffing, gotta have it. Um,

it depends on the gravy. Yeah. Yeah. It's you guys tell me, what are you thinking?

I mean, in my house, it's true. They always roll stovetop and then they chop up apples and throw it

inside. And that's, that's normally what we roll with.

I started making, uh, my youngest is allergic to like 12 different things. Wheat, soy, peanut,

dairy, all the things. And so I started making a cornbread stuffing with homemade sage sausage

and apples and onions. And I'll tell you what, I, I don't care that nobody else eats it. It's my

wife and I getting down on a pan of that. Yep. The sausage is the one stuffing add on that I will

allow because I think it just adds to it. But I'm, you know, apples, I'm not opposed to it. That

sounds like a good ad, you know, it's great. Huh? All right. Moving on. We, we, we got other

things to talk about here. Dessert, pecan, pumpkin, or other. What are we thinking? Pecan, pumpkin,

or other. Okay. Let me start off by just making one, a little aside correction. So I, uh, I went to a,

a cooking class in Nolens one time and this, this, uh, Cajun chef said, here's the deal.

The pecan is what you take with you on the fishing boat. If you're going to be out all day,

the pecan is what goes in the pie. I love it. Just throwing that out there. Okay.

I love it. Uh, so Jeff, you want to talk on? There you go. There you go. You want to talk

about it? No, it wasn't the typo on the slide. He said, I'm not pronouncing it correctly for you. I'm

sorry. My, my, my sincere apologies. Pecan. I hate pecans. Uh, pumpkin, or is, is there something

other? What is the preferred, uh, dessert here as we're walking into Thanksgiving?

Uh, we roll pumpkin or apple in the Diarmus household. We have, we have some apple pie.

Yeah. We have some apple pie and some vanilla ice cream ready just to throw a quick scoop on there,

um, for either or, and obviously some cool whip nearby. Uh, and that's, that's kind of how we roll.

I mean, I love the smell of roasted pecans. So if you roll pecan pie, you're not going to get a

complaint here because of that smell. When it fills up my house, it's, it's good. But the way that we

roll typically is pumpkin or apple. Yeah. And we were the same, right? Again, again,

we're like in it together. Uh, yeah. Uh, we don't do the vanilla ice cream. We are instead cool whip

fiends. And so we'll have probably three, three tubs of cool whip for 15 of us. And they'll all be

gone at a certain point. Nice. Yeah. We make one concession for my brother-in-law. So my brother-in-law

is a French silk guy. Oh, so even though French silk doesn't scream Thanksgiving, I've got one in my

fridge right now because even though we're not going to get together inside our house, uh, we bought a

fire pit because us Iowans are, are resilient in the cold. And so we're going to get outside and we'll

have a piece of pie outside by the fire pit. Oh, that's pretty awesome. Yeah. By the fire pit. You

see, these are things we don't get to enjoy in Florida. We want to go somewhere where we're going to have a fire

pit. We, we, we do, but it's already 90 degrees, you know, and then you have the fire pit juices it up

to like one 20. Yeah. Get eaten by mosquitoes. It's just a man. We don't have mosquitoes in the

winter, Jeff. Seriously. No. All right. Well, some feedback from the outside, uh, pecan evidently,

excuse me, pecan evidently makes somebody want to vomit here and pumpkin for the win. Another dessert

here, at least I'm assuming it's a dessert, a creamy cheese oven, roasted Brussels sprouts.

Ooh. Oh, you know what? That's probably not a dessert. That's probably one of the later comments.

That would be funny though for, for anyway. All right. Moving on. That joke sounded better in my

head before I actually said it. Hey, so we've got a pretty. Sorry. Yeah. Move on.

And we're back. Best time. We've been talking a lot about the food. Let's shift gears. Let's talk

about the overall experience. We're digital pastors. We're used to exploring the overall experience,

the vibe, the look, the feel in digital context. So let's talk about this. Best time for the meal.

When are we actually eating this meal? Thursday morning. Thursday.

Oh, not morning. Definitely not morning.

Not morning. My fault. My fault. My fault. Thursday.

I have a, I have a almost scientifically proven method of determining when to have it. So in my

household, uh, it is no four o'clock is wrong. Whoever that Facebook user was, I apologize. Four

o'clock is when dessert is one o'clock is when dinner is because football starts at 12 by one o'clock.

You're halfway through the second quarter. So nobody wants to do anything during halftime. You

definitely don't want to watch the, the, usually the crappy halftime show at the 12 o'clock game,

which is the lions typically. Uh, so you have your meal at one, you come back for the rest of the

football game. You digest, you let everything kind of percolate a little bit. You make the coffee

by four to four 15. It is dessert time. And then by seven o'clock, then you get back on that

like second Z's, you know, we're going to make sliders out of the Hawaiian rolls, that type of

thing that happens. But you have to keep it within the same realm of normal meals. Because if you do

it at like a two, like somebody else just put two 30, if you do two 30, your whole body's out of

whack. You're going to wake up in the middle of the night hungry. Uh, you're not going to know when

to eat breakfast. I mean, your kids are going to be crying, you know, all of these things.

One o'clock, one o'clock is the scientifically proven way. And I rest my case.

Do we believe in science anymore? I'm confused.

Oh, no, I'm kidding.

I'd say it's when the turkey's done. There you go.

You know, so one o'clock is good.

Yeah. I, we roll 1 PM too, but mostly because my wife is from Kansas city and that was traditional

for her. Now growing up Latin, I mean, Latins are crazy. We do everything at night. And so for us,

it works out for our family because one o'clock is, you know, we sit down with her family and we have

Thanksgiving. And then typically by seven o'clock, we're rolling over to my folks house and they're

starting their deal because you know, for the most part, they're going to stay up all night.

And so that's how that works. But for us, it works out perfect. I agree with you guys. One o'clock is

such a great time to do it because you just get loaded up, you get stuffed and you can enjoy the rest

of the football for the rest of the day. It works out so much better. And especially if you're coming

in from a turkey bowl, you're coming in all drinks and sweat. You're had a great time. And then you

just, you take a shower, you come in, you eat a great big meal. It's so refreshing. It's good.

Let's just point out the fact that you called, uh, Latin's crazy, uh, on a broadcast that's going

to come back and bite you later. I am. I promise you it's, it's allowed technically. Right. So,

yeah. So you've been talking a lot about Turkey bowl here, the preferred Thanksgiving exercise,

Turkey bowl, Turkey trot or Turkey nap. What are we thinking here? We, we, we play in football.

We going for a run or are we just sleeping the day away? All of them. Yeah. All of them. That's

right. Yeah. When I was a kid, when I was a kid, we used to do, I mean, it has to involve football

because you're going to watch football, but we used to go out and we would do this, uh, sideline

catch exercise. Like we wouldn't actually play a game. We would just find a sidewalk.

You're just running drills. Yeah. And we would try and catch the ball and, you know, get two feet down

and it just became this running route thing that we would do. And cause we never had enough cousins

to play a full on game. So we just would make up, you know, stuff and play, but yeah, it's got to

involve the football. It's that one year, one time of the year where everybody, you know, becomes an

athlete, you know, for about 20 minutes worth of just, you know, messing around.

It's so true. And, and so, and the rest of the day you spend in pain of the reminder of the fact

that you have not been practicing all year, but you decided to go ahead and run sprints on routes and

all that stuff. And so you spend the rest of the day just sore and your muscles are just reminding

yourself, Hey, another year older. It's like that nice bitter push before the end of the year of age,

just reminding you, Oh, take a look, right? Like you've got back muscles and leg muscles that really

haven't been used in quite a long time, but Turkey bowl for us is, is a must. Uh, Turkey nap is a

definite, especially after that one o'clock meal. Oh boy. We have three o'clock. Nobody cares about

the lions. Fourth quarter is so great for a Turkey nap. And so Detroit fans, you know it too. I mean,

it's really a game that whether you win or you lose the playoffs don't matter anyway. So it's fine.

So I, I am a Detroit fan and I will tell you, we still don't care about our Thursday afternoon.

We still do not. It usually we're losing in the middle of third quarter anyway, so it doesn't

matter. It's good. Awesome. That's so, so good. Like even the law, even the lions fans, even the

lions players, let's be honest, they're, they're sleeping that fourth quarter away anyway. So

no, there is a, there is a run here in Iowa. So we have this place called living history farms.

It's like a vintage farm thing where you can go and you can actually churn butter and things like

that, but they have the, they have a Turkey trot each year, but it's, it's not your traditional,

like run on, you know, a, you know, an outdoor path. It is, it is literally around their grounds

and there's a hill that's got a rope that, you know, goes down it. You actually have to

hand rope up this hill. So it's not really trying to win. It's a race you try to endure. Cause I

think it's like six and a half miles. Wow. Uh, and, and so people will do that, but they set it for

like eight o'clock in the morning so you can get home in time to eat. And I, I cheer them on. I'm

like, you go. That's awesome. That's right. From the sideline. Good job. Good job. And let's be

honest in 2020, probably we've not been the most athletic as, as we normally would have been if this

was an average year. So those of you who are out there watching, don't kill yourselves, uh, doing

some of this stuff. Don't, don't pull the muscle. Don't strain the thing. Don't, don't tear the

thing. Just like, you know, be careful, you know? All right. Moving on here, wrapping up

here, better Thanksgiving day entertainment, uh, watching a parade, watching football, watching

1978 star Wars holiday special, uh, insert something else in like, what is the better Thanksgiving

day entertainment for y'all? I've got the wild card here. Football, football, football is the

one. Um, but when we were living in Georgia and when we were able to actually do things

before COVID, we would do. So again, let's, let's, let's go back to the timetable, ladies

and gentlemen, one o'clock dinner. So for me, it was Turkey trot in the morning, football

after that with the kids, then the, then actual, like, let's watch the first quarter and then the

meal at one. And then the nap at like two 33 desert at four, if you wanted seconds, maybe six,

seven, and then the nine o'clock movie. And usually the nine o'clock movie at the movie theater.

So they take the kids, you go wear them out, you do whatever. And then everybody sits in the back.

Sometimes the kids fall asleep. Sometimes you're whatever, but it's the best place to just wind down

from an afternoon of excitement. That's good. That's real good. Yeah. For us, we've done the

movie at home thing at night, you know, the theater, the theater is great, but you know, theaters in

Miami, especially pre COVID would get kind of stocked up with folks. And so it didn't, it really wasn't

as much of an enjoyable experience, but a nice traditional, even starting up like a Christmas movie

around that time, whether it's thrown on home alone or something like that, there's always kind of a

nice way to say goodbye to Thanksgiving and hello to what's next. And so it was always just a fun thing

to do there at the end, after a day of football, after all this stuff that Andy just said. So it's

good. Yeah. We're going to expose my 11 year old to, uh, well, I've already started it down the path

of, of righteousness. Uh, so we, we watched, uh, we watched the, um, Indiana Jones, uh, Raiders of the

Lost Ark. Now we're going to finish the series by watching Temple of Doom and Last Crusade,

because anything after that is not part of the series. It's not canon. We don't, we don't acknowledge

anything that happened after that. So that's going to be, you know, besides football, that's going to

be our evening, uh, evening session. We're going to, we're going to throw in some, cause we're doing

this year, uh, you guys are doing ribs giving or whatever you're doing. We're doing, we decided to

go on New Year's Eve this year for Thanksgiving. We're doing, we're doing all apps, you know? So it's just,

uh, yeah, bring back hashtag ribs giving. No, we're doing all apps. We're doing the traditional,

uh, cheesy taco dip and, uh, bacon wrapped little smokies. And, uh, so yeah, it's, it's just going to

be one of those for us. And we'll just graze all day and then have pie by the fire. That sounds awesome.

Yeah. We got to find ways to work all of this together. The Thanksgiving with the turkey, with the

ribs giving, with the apps, with the cheesy, you know, throw it, throw it, throw enough cheese on

top of Brussels sprouts. The Brussels sprouts are good. You know, you just got to find a way to kind

of make all that happen, which is really, I'm still kind of stuck on Andy using the word secondies.

Like I kind of secondies. Yeah. Secondies. I don't, I don't know. This is foreign language to me. I'm

sorry, but like that, that's the beauty of like the, the leftover, right? When it all just gets kind

of putting together into like one mush kind of thing and the casseroles are intermixing and the,

that, that mayonnaise salad dressings, like all in the, oh, it's so good. All right. Hey,

hey, wrapping, wraps, wrapping up here, uh, Christmas tree before Thanksgiving, on Thanksgiving,

after Thanksgiving, after Halloween, my wife will tell you. Hmm. So it's been up for a while.

After Halloween. That's interesting. Yeah. All Saints Day has a different connotation for her,

huh? Yes. That's good. All right. This year, because we're trying to speed this whole 2020

thing up, we actually put ours up before Thanksgiving, but typically it's that Friday

after Thanksgiving. Is it all day house work day, the lights go up outside, the tree goes up. It all

happens the day after Thanksgiving, typically for us. But this year, because, hey, 2020, we're done with you.

We want everything to move ahead. It was, it all went up already on Monday. And so Christmas is

already ready to go for the table. Yeah. I think, I think my tree went up November 5th,

November 4th. Like it was just, uh, you know, I, I was, I was talking about it before Halloween. I was

like, oh my gosh, I just, I want to get there. I need some change. I need some happiness in my life.

Let's put the tree up. Uh, let's, let's at least try that. So yeah, I'm, I'm with Ray. It's,

it's the day after Thanksgiving for us usually. Uh, and the kids have been asking, Hey, can we do it

now? Can we do it now? It's like, I, something just doesn't feel right in my soul to do it right

now. I'm a, I'm what my brother calls a calendarist. Uh, and so it, it, we have to hold true to what the

calendar says. Right. The calendar is predetermining your destination, election, et cetera. A calendarist.

Correct. Yeah. And we can, it's theologically rich. My, my November is theologically rich in that,

in that vein. I love it. That's funny. This is going to bother you, Andy. I'm going to warn you

in advance. I got a Facebook user that's saying put the tree up after Thanksgiving, duh, but my church

did extend Advent two weeks. Oh, any, any thoughts or comments on that? Andy, you can't extend Advent.

Yeah. How did you call God? Like I'm Methodist. We can't do that.

No. We'll get kicked out. Mark knows. Even as a Baptist, I'm like, you can't do that. Like,

what are you talking about? Yeah. Oh, they're coming back. There's precedent. I mean, come on.

There's precedent. In times of a global pandemic, bring people hope by inviting them to a prolonged

Advent experience. So that's beautiful. Who can forget? Who can forget the Christmas of 1919

and the Spanish flu and the Advent was extended an extra two months? That one time.

I would, I would love whoever that is on Facebook. I can't see from here. I'll find the comment,

but I would love to know details of what that, what that looks like for your, your church,

a precedent. I don't care about, but it was just the story of how that works there.

I would like to know so I can pray for you and your eternal soul as well.

Whoa, that just got dark.

Hey, no, I'm trying to bring light and happiness into that person's life, whoever that is. Cause

precedent. Get out of here. Andy told you he's a calendarist. All right. Yeah. That's we've

established this. I mean, I mean, Andy, we cannot add any more candles to the Advent wreath. There

are five, five. There's the four on the outside and then the one big one in the middle. That's it.

What are you going to do? Seven? No way. Then it looks more like a menorah sign.

Yeah. A menorah.

Whoa.

Oh my.

Sorry for anyone asking it out there.

Talking about Cray here, evidently.

All right. I don't want to prolong this on, but I'm going to go ahead and click on it. Boom.

Facebook user who is not logged in or whatever. I love you.

I want to hear the story. I want to hear whoever that is. Hit me up on Facebook. Let's talk about

it. This is beautiful. This is crazy, right? We needed some, some laughter, some fun in this. So

I got to tell you, I'm, I'm literally, I'm pressing end here and I'm loading up my car. I'm going on

vacation for, for like four or five days, checking out, doing that. And so I'm really looking forward

to doing that.

Can I, can I give you one quick leftover life-changing dish?

Do it.

It'll take two seconds or less. So take your leftover Turkey, take some leftover stuffing,

a little bit of mashed potatoes, put it in a bowl, mix it all up, scoop that into a crescent roll,

roll, wrap that up, bake that bad boy for about 13, 14 minutes with gravy as a dipping sauce.

And you're talking a Friday. You're not going to regret.

Or not going to wake up.

Or not going to wake up. Yes.

Fantastic. Thank you for sharing that, Mark.

That's good.

There's a, yeah. Wow. So like, Ray, you had a friend who was like a hot, like urgent care,

you know, the, the ambulance guys, right? Do they get more calls than normal on Thanksgiving

for people eating like stuff like that? Like the stuff.

It's the deep fried Turkey. It's the deep fried Turkey.

The deep fried Turkey. It's not the heart attack. It's deep fried Turkey.

It is the deep fried Turkey. Yeah. Be warned people. It is delicious, but deadly, but go for it and film it.

Delicious, but deadly. The, the ultimate Thanksgiving feast. Well, well, well said there.

All right. Hey, uh, we're, we're going to wrap for this year. This, this is awesome.

Uh, you guys have a, have the three of you here. Thanks for jumping on this. Thanks for goofing off with us.

And, um, and, and, and I, and I pray and hope you guys have a great Thanksgiving and a, and a, and a great year for, for 2020.

Uh, for those of you watching online, uh, I think I know who, uh, the Facebook user was.

It was Daniel Heron, uh, maybe. And so may answer some things, you know, I mean, the Roblox world does live a little different than the rest of us.

So love, love them for that and, um, be in, and, uh, good stuff there.

So, uh, for Jeff, uh, for everybody else on the screen, uh, we are going to wrap here on beta.

Thanks for joining us. And, um, Hey, who knows? We'll probably do something crazy here, uh, in the next little bit again.

So thanks. Y'all have a good Thanksgiving and a great day. Bye.