EP356: Jeff & Marian Camacho Talk Christian Vision's Digital Day

oh hey i got so distracted uh enjoying the music i didn't even see the countdown get to zero

i have no idea i guess i was maybe five or six seconds late on that transition

hey it's jeff at the church digital thanks for coming in today let me get my audio up a little

bit to make sure i'm good and things are looking great here today i uh i'm a little flustered

today coming into the stream i'll be honest it was uh i was off site i was actually working at a

physical church uh this morning at some meetings and uh i don't have a setup at the physical church

to stream yet and and so kind of rushed home got stuck in traffic let ai do the driving uh so that

i could email and and do some things which is not allowed you're not allowed to email while tesla's

driving full self-driving like they don't like that uh but uh i i did it anyway just trying to

to get everything set for today but hey we're doing a live stream today episode i want to say it's 356

356 with the church digital i'm excited about this conversation today we've got marian camacho coming

on from cv global christian vision and i i i think this is the first time we've had somebody from

christian vision on the show that's embarrassing because i've got some friends in that space just

never actually had anybody on so excited to talk to to marian a little bit christian vision

hear about some things that they've got coming up with digital day but before we get there

yeah i i got i got flat cap saying hype and and listen this is quite literally ladies and gentlemen

this is the thing that i need from you today uh we've got to get the word out on the digital

missionary conferences the digital missionary summits that we've got coming up this fall uh here in

america of course or wherever it is this is september and october we've got four conferences coming up

starting september 17th we're two weeks away from the first conference and and we just need help

organically getting the word out september 17th you know is the uh digital neighborhoods conference

we're excited about that this digital discipleship digital church planting what does that look like

we'll be talking about that september 17th wednesday september 17th digital neighborhoods

september 24th is our christ-centered recovery conference control out recover uh october 1st is

our european conference european summit uh european digital missionary summit and then october 8th

wednesday is our uh gaming digital missionary gaming summit now all four of those are free

online conference is incredible we've we've actually had close to a thousand people already register

across all the conferences which is awesome we're excited about that and excited to see what god's

going to do through that situation but we do need your help listen if you're watching this you

already know me you know the church digital you're already registered for those conferences and yes

the great white beard is here there is lots going on that is true but we need your help to get the word

out and so here's what i'm asking you to do friends of the stream i'm asking you i'm typing while i'm

doing this which is very hard but i need you to go to share dot missionary dot digital i did it

no typos i'm very proud of myself share dot missionary dot digital there's media kits

there's graphics there's pre-designed uh posts social media posts

uh you know things that you can use for stories whatever platform you're on

here's all i'm asking get the word out on these conferences

and help get connected to other people that might be interested

in doing what you're doing sharing jesus online being uh digital missionaries digital discipleship

evangelism being involved in creating a movement

of discipleship in digital and virtual spaces we even got our

our good friend on today right now mr pete

is broadcasting that in virtual reality

right now in virtual reality mr pete we got to talk about how you're going to do this

do the conferences in um in big screen as well

but the heart of this ladies and gentlemen is i need your help

to get the word out check out that uh graphic share the website share dot missionary dot digital

and help us organically get some people

uh more people connected to these conferences we were honestly

we were hoping for 2500 across all four conferences

we still got time we still got some energy uh but organically we we need your help to do that

please share dot missionary dot digital you know what thursday i'm gonna try to do a second stream

walking into the other conference i did i did a stream where i really featured

each of the conferences and the speakers and the breakouts and talked more about that

i'm probably gonna do that i i tried to figure out time

based on just chaos right now but we'll figure it out

we're excited about the conferences and and what's happening uh with them

cool so hey let's uh let's transition

i i you know i need some sort of like transition bell alarm button something i can push that'd be like

all right announcements over let's get back to the show

um so all of a sudden i suddenly am picturing the two muppets in the balcony like the old guys

yelling at me to shut up and get on with the thing i don't i what are their names

is somebody the guy that looks like white beard and the guy that looks you know more like a shaved me

um i i don't know we've got some people watching in uh in chat right now mr pete i see already uh and

the soul i appreciate you being on here uh melanie flat cap uh there's tom anybody else that's watching

hey thanks for coming on um feel free to throw comments during the show of course you're welcome to do that

give that thumbs up or subscribe if you haven't uh but let's get into the show here talking uh with

age excuse me uh with marion so hey marion how are you doing today i'm good how are you doing good i

started to call you awkwardly adrian which you are not but that was my last meeting okay i am

not uh i'm not mentally functioning like i should uh tom has called it out correctly it is staller and

and waldorf waldorf the two muppets are you into muppets at all um marion no no i mean no i think i

watched him when i was a kid a little bit but not really not not not not at all there there's actually

it's it's a big deal in muppet culture where they they destroyed the disney removed the the

muppet theater in in disney hollywood studios and now the muppets are moving to rock and roller coaster

and and like the the muppet community is up in arms over the whole thing like it is it is a it is a

travesty but you don't care and and probably the honestly the rest of like america doesn't care

or the world doesn't care either but i'm just telling you like from from up from a muppet

standpoint like kermit's kermit's feeling a little pain right now so i don't know where to go from

here uh i just kind of painted myself in a corner hey thanks for coming on the show marion uh tell

all right so your work for work for cv global uh excited to learn about that but tell us a little

bit about yourself and and how you ended up working for a a global christian missions organization

what's what's your story yeah well first thank you for having me on i love what you're doing here i

love the community that you're creating um i did some youtube stalking so i'm trying to catch up a

little bit so i think it's great um but yeah as as far as i go i've i've been a christian as long as i

can remember i remember accepting jesus when i was really young like five or six on the edge of my bed

with my mom right there praying with me um but i would say i really didn't surrender my life and start

following jesus until my early 20s um and that was right around when i met my husband in the church

um and then today we have four kids they all love god uh thank you jesus and they love his house and so

um we are proud parents and um yeah as far as as far as i go my background is actually in tv news

and so i graduated college broadcast journalism went straight into tv news here in albuquerque new mexico

um and was executive producing our morning show when um i got a call from our pastor here in town

and that's where my ministry full-time ministry journey started and so i was a creative director

for a while um and then god called my husband and i to england where we spent a year and a half doing

ministry in england and that is where i divinely encountered um cv and have been with them for

about a year and a half now loving my job i love the people i get to work with the multicultural setting

is amazing um so yeah that's kind of the short cliff's note version of my life that's beautiful

yeah i i have my degree is in radio tv film as well um and so it's a fun fun fun memories right there i

had a professor tell me once jeff you don't watch enough television you need to watch more

um like it was it was i when another prof called it the uh what did he call it the uh cocktail party

uh degree because you know lots of like ancillary things that really don't matter if you're at a

cocktail party you could tell phenomenal stories about actors and actresses and television and tech

but nobody really cares uh but at least you put it to purpose uh centered around uh broadcast journalism

so so good for you what were you what were you doing in england um so well we went and

we knew like for about 10 years before we moved that god was calling us over there we had no idea what

that looked like and a lot of times that's what our journey looks like with god you you feel like

he's pulling you and calling you to something but what is that so church planting missionaries we

didn't know and so we ended up um going on staff at a church there um and just kind of helping through

a period of growth and amazing church there in england and um i was on full-time staff at cv

and so yeah we're there and then god called us back home so now we're back here in albuquerque new

mexico um with family and friends that's beautiful i uh to be honest i'm kind of praying god's going to

call me to england um that that is uh my daughter right now she's a she's a junior in uh high school

and her number one college that she wants to go to is a school that's outside of london uh that's a

really big engineering school and um i think if my daughter ends up going to college to london i feel

like god's going to call us to to england as well and maybe live over there for for a couple years

i don't know my my son's not too excited about that he's he's a couple years behind her but we'll

we'll have to we'll have to discern god's calling in in the midst of that but and that's the thing i mean

honestly you know even you may know working i'm sure you're working some level remotely because

cv global is global but um it's the beauty of what we do we can do what we're doing pretty much

anywhere and uh and and and rocket so well well cool tell us tell us a little bit uh about what

you're what you do specifically with with cv global and maybe what is even christian vision let's back up

with that what is christian vision and then what's your role with it that's great so yeah cv um started

in 1988 um by lord robert edmiston and his wife tracy so he was on the house of lords in um in england

and um it's really just centered if i could sum it up it's all about evangelism so we're reaching

unreached people groups around the world we are equipping christians just everyday believers how do i

share my faith how do i tell people about jesus so how do we partner with individuals in sharing their

faith and equipping them to do that and then also equipping the church so we have resources if you go

on our website cvglobal.co resources courses um training we also have testimony videos just of how

god is uh encountering people around the world and so the the bullseye is just evangelism and how we

outwork that is in a lot of different ways um but mainly it's just staying on the forefront in the

front lines of innovation and how are we harnessing technology and being innovative in the ways that

we're reaching people and i'm going to talk about some of that when we talk about digital day but

um not getting left behind as the times change and um you know the digital times change and we get into

ai and even quantum computing what does that look like for missions and uh we don't want to be left

behind because our mission is the most important one and that's to share jesus with people who don't

know him and so um how do we do that and staying on the front lines that's what we're we're all about

yeah that's that's such a that's such a great calling right to we we've got this this massive

opportunity we've we've got this incredible responsibility that that's given to us and

yeah i mean just think over the past years uh covid accelerated so much and digital community

explodes artificial intelligence is is all over the place like we're not even talking about

quantum much yet but they're already carving out what that means in the grand scheme of things

and and how how are we bringing the gospel influence into that space and utilizing these tools it was

it was interesting i was actually talking with a a pastor the other day and sharing a little bit of

of like what we're what we're doing sharing jesus online and really challenging people to be missional and

digital virtual spaces and and you know he was funny he the pastor immediately reflected back into the um

uh the the bearing of the talents and and it's like you know the the you're you're

you're you're not hiding the talent you're using the talent and you're using the the the technology the

skill set the influence the culture the tools that are available to do that and and i love it's one

of the things that i love about cv global is you guys are really challenging opening up having those

hard conversations using your influence to really lead out uh digitally and and virtually into that space and

so that that that's that's beautiful what's your what's your specific role with um uh cv global

yeah i am the head of communications

la-di-da-da cool we're moving up in the world man i thought was uh thank you glad you're here for

maybe i should have known that in advance walking in i i just i got an email i didn't read the

signature but uh very very cool so and uh so you're you're what do you like what's your basic role uh

what does that like look like for uh for you at cv global what's your nine to five look like

it's a great question it's um so we're we're splitting it into internal and external communications

mostly so it's we have more than you know just around 350 employees around the world so how are

we communicating to them internally constantly having this this point of contact and a touch with

our people so that culture is strong that we're all on the same page what are we doing where are we

going um so that's very important and it and it just involves a lot of things so a lot of internal

communication and then external would be um just obviously anything that is facing the public so

our social media channels um youtube any sort of testimonies that are going out and then as well as

our website so all of the articles and training and courses that we do partnering with our our platform

team to make sure that our voice is consistent that our tone our brand and that we're representing

ourselves um in a clear way out to the world i gotta i gotta imagine getting getting alignment

and and quality control and those things are hard with a 350 employee global organization

that's a hundred percent remote there there's a there's a headquarters in australia i'm trying

to remember like specifically how the organization is structured yeah so we have we have um a variety

of locations actually around the world like physical location so most of our employees would be um within

a physical location okay and so our yeah our main um office is actually in soli hole in england so

that's uh okay where i was when i was in england and then yeah in australia cape town um zambia

miami dallas we're kind of just spread all over the place but yeah a variety of a variety of locations

yeah it's it's funny i i know the people in cape town um at least some of the people in cape town

i've talked to some people in australia i'm here i live in miami and and i've i've never had any

connection with anybody in miami so if you know if you maybe maybe you can introduce me to somebody

that that's working here locally would love love to connect up with with them i'm guessing miami

does a lot of work in latin and south america yes yeah of course i mean that that's that's the

that's the bread and butter here of of miami well cool and so you guys are at the cutting edge of

technology and evangelism trying to connect the two together having the hard conversations always

looking forward uh to what's ahead and and you're you're doing this digital day coming up in in in

november talk talk to me a little bit about what this what this looks like yeah so digital day is a

one day basically conference um where we bring in a lot of different speakers from a lot of different

areas and backgrounds and it really it's a unique space because we're talking like church leaders

and pastors technologists futurists mission practitioners bringing them all in the same room

so it's a it's an in-person and also a streamed event which i'll i'll get into a little bit too

um which is neat but it's it's this unique space where we're you know we have church conferences

we have missions conferences we have um tech conferences but how do we blend the three bring

them together in the same room um with the same mission to reach people for jesus and so that's

that's like the big overall of digital day is this unique space across you know cross denominations

we have all different kinds of denominations in the room um just looking at what are we dealing with

in the digital world in technology what's coming up what's happening now and what is next what's on the

horizon and how can we harness that to reach more people that's that's beautiful is the the format is

more like keynote is is it like a ted talk short is is it dialogue like what what's actually happening

during the day yeah i would say both and so it's a it's a good mixture of like keynote speakers um but

you know shorter so maybe like shorter format and then we've got a few panels happening and then

throughout the day you know because we're big on partnerships you probably know nick parker

um in south africa so we're big on okay let's not you know just bring everybody in the room for the

sake of bring everybody in the room but let's talk about these different communities that are around the

world that you could be a part of and so we'll be highlighting different um communities throughout

the day that people can actually practically jump into right there and be a part of so yeah keynote

speakers panels we'll have some people actually zooming in live on the day of that couldn't be with us

but we absolutely wanted to hear from them um so yeah it'll be it's dynamic it's fun lots of networking

opportunities as well so um just a great thing to be a part of awesome so well let's go ahead and put

this this slide up and so digital day 25 um this is in london as well as online and so it's it's a

physical london event uh on november 6th um wow it's interesting like you know it's it's funny i'll go

and ask the question um it's it's a a physical event talking about digital evangelism and digital

culture anytime i talk about doing physical events somebody looks at me like jeff you're a digital guy

why are you doing physical and so let me let me flip the script on you you're you're digital people

why do a physical event so there's just something i think about coming face to face with people

and so a big part of digital day is creating like that unique space where i i might never i mean i'll

admit i i am like church girl to the heart i might never meet a technologist or have any idea what

they're talking about but there's got to be this bridge that we could build in just meeting face

to face having that conversation and who knows the god connections that can come out of of the room

when you're meeting people face to face and you know what honestly the same thing can happen online

um but there's there's just something you know to be said about looking people in the eye connecting

with them being in the room feeling the excitement in the room as people are talking about these new

things that are happening um in the digital realm and how we can be a part of it and you know looking

to the person next to you during breaks and hey i loved this what do you think and having that back

and forth so yeah we want to just we want to create that space that physical space but then not forsake

the digital as well so more people can be involved yeah totally can uh can picture that uh i actually i do love

the idea of of hybrid events um i i think gathering to people together is uh is is an incredible

opportunity to do physically like we don't it's interesting my senior leadership we talk about it

all the time we've never actually been in the same physical space at the same time with with the church

digital and so we're actually right right now like i'm implement we're putting together a retreat

to bring all the our our leadership together like for the first time the board board of directors

together and so that we we can be together in the same space because there is benefits to being

together in physical space now i we don't have the luxury of doing it like on a regular basis but to do

it uh occasionally uh is is beautiful and so like a networking thing to be able to connect together in

physical space is great but the reach of cv global like you know not everybody can get to london england

i i frankly i wish i i could get to london england on on november 6th but i'll definitely be leaning in

in online and so what is that what is the physical what is the online experience like look like um yeah

is how similar is it to to like a webinar i kind of what's the format digitally for it

yeah so um we have like dedicated live stream hosts that will be interacting with our uh with our stream

attendees on the day of so what that'll look like we'll just be you know asking questions engaging

and then hopefully we'll have some opportunities to even bring some of the speakers over during some

of the breaks to you know maybe just dive a little bit deeper into a subject so that would be something

unique for the stream experience that might not be in person you know and until later online um but

yeah it would look like just a lot of interaction with moderators with other attendees through the

chat and then with live stream hosts and then um we have you know some ways to interact for people

through through asking questions even to speakers you know through a thing called slido where they can

interact and ask their questions um so just simple things like that where we want to try to make you

feel like you're in the room as much as possible love it yeah love love me some slido too that's that's

very cool yeah um you know it's online getting a getting a behind the scenes view very popular uh getting

getting something exclusive uh added bonus for since they're not there uh love that too and and and

helping people find the voice so that they're represented that sounds exciting so who do you

have speaking at the event gosh i'm so excited um we have a lot of amazing speakers this year

and i'll just maybe highlight a few of them i think we might have a slide of some of them but

um so al gordon we're kicking the day off um actually going to hear from our managing director

first heinz um who's going to just give more insight into cv who we are what we do how people can get

involved and so we're going to kick off the day um with him and then we're going to hear from al gordon

who is a pastor and leader at saint church in london and um if you've never heard of pastor al gordon

i would just encourage you to look look into him maybe follow him on social media because

um in my opinion he's just he's on the front lines of creativity and innovation when it comes to

the local church so what does that look like why should we be leaning into these types of things

so he's going to start the day just from a pastoral and theological perspective on why we as christians

should be paying attention to what's happening in the in the digital world and these advancements that

are happening so that's really exciting it just kind of sets a tone for the day um and then we have

people like june marita who's going to talk about ai and the future of ai what that means for mission

nick moretti from brazil is going to be there so we're really excited um alex she is going to talk

about quantum computing and um yeah you just say quantum computing to me and i'm like whoo but i'm

sure a lot of people know way more than i do um but he's going to talk about um how you know we a lot

of us we think ai this is the future but really quantum computing is right on right on the heels

and is gonna gonna take over from what i hear so what does that mean for the mission world what does

that mean for church pastors and leaders and technologists and so we're super excited to hear

from him and then even we have a guy talking about um crypto payments so how do we utilize crypto to pay

people in the mission field yeah in hard to reach areas and so just really neat conversations and that's

what you know digital day is designed to spark conversations and that's what we're hoping it does

yeah i mean it's interesting even the crypto um by the way quantum oh my gosh like trying to

understand and a what some of this technology is like like i you know i i am my futurist i don't know

but like you know i love examining and being on the cutting edge and quantum how you know is hard

enough to process on its own the missional implications of quantum and how we need to start

thinking about using this and preparing to go down this way like that's exciting to me um yeah you know

the i'm just kind of overstating here a little bit to be silly but like the hey here's how to do a bible

study online you know it's like you know i've done that for freaking 25 years like that's that's boring

conversation let's let's go over here and explore like the the the untapped resources of quantum

computing and and what that looks like so that that's beautiful that aside i mean to be honest right

now i'm struggling uh we're organizationally we're trying to figure out how to get money to some of our

people that are in the field you know over there and and we've been been wrestling with uh the the

crypto conversation even even internally of whether or not we should be doing that and moving in that

direction and so it intrigues me even that that you're you're you're talking about that and prepping

that so really interesting i love where i love how you're you're you know thinking ahead and kind of

helping the church helping missionaries uh wrestle with some of the stuff it's interesting i've got bob

here watching the show hey bob uh bob saying in many cases the church is where innovation goes to die

unfortunately that's the reality uh you know maybe a little bit more in the west than the

than some i don't know i don't want to say that but um it it is true that that there is there is a

little bit of that but what's interesting to me and and i want to i want to poke you on this a little

bit see if if you're interested mary and if you can contract with this um it's like i used to work

with churches a lot and and i to be honest bob's stance echoes a lot of my experience working with

churches but there's there's something different because you know you're a missions organization a

global missions organization that is that is not weighed down by some of the church traditions

church ecclesiology i don't know what with the church but you don't necessarily have that it doesn't

seem to me that missions organizations have that weight they're able to be more aggressive missionally

you know there's there's actually a pastor here in america uh over over at life church craig

or shell that says everything short of sin should be done and um and you know i don't see churches

acting that way but i see missions organizations like yours and and you know some of your uh

contemporaries that are leading the way in innovation in in thinking outside the box in in these things and

so um how how has that been for you kind of kind of shifting and and and running and working with an

organization that's running and and trying to figure out how to communicate effectively like talk a

little bit about the innovation side that that you see through cv global yeah i think that's great um

because you know i was in the church full time before going to cv and unfortunately we saw a lot of

um what he was talking about when covet hit because churches were forced to innovate and to go online

to stay um engaged with people and we unfortunately saw a lot of churches die um because they could just

couldn't keep up with it or they didn't want to um and so we were forced even to at our church which is

which is a large church and i would say at you know further a lot further ahead than where a lot of other

churches are we were forced to innovate to go online what's working you know to keep people engaged and

and i think the church just cannot be left behind and we have to know that the world is moving on

and it's going to keep moving on without us if we don't try to keep up so i think where where the

difference is is that we just have to constantly be asking the holy spirit for wisdom and discernment

and to guide us and and keeping jesus at the center and because some of these technologies can be scary

and i think that's why a lot of churches back off because uh you know ai oh i've seen a lot of people

do that and so how do we engage with ai from a biblical perspective and and keeping you know the wisdom and

discernment at the center and so with cv i mean that's that's what it is we keep jesus at the center

of all that we do and so we have you know the right things in place the right guardrails in place

um to make sure that we are navigating that world wisely and not getting left behind at the same time

yeah where did thank thank you for that like i do i love the idea of of obviously christ being at the center

uh but and and being like there needs to be someone that that's able to move ahead like to almost scout

um i'm i'm thinking like the old testament hey who's gonna go in and check out the the army and

and report back of of you know the the villain army the enemy and come back and report what's what's

going on and and and in many ways i i look at like you know the work that we're doing or the work that

cv global is doing where you're you're you're you're paving the road you're you're you're scouting

ahead you're reporting and and finding you're even experimenting with what's going on um you know i've i've

been i you know i've just i've been the guy in my life that that always seems to be ahead of of

the curve and um what what doesn't what we're what we're doing isn't what the the status quo is but

it it eventually it gets there you know like i i just it's just as a story i've told it before but i

had um i probably had a calling to be a digital pastor in the 90s like 1992 and uh you know i was

like when i graduated college 99 i thought oh hey some church in america is gonna like pay me to

pastor aol it's gonna be awesome somebody somebody's gonna hire me please please please and nobody would

hire me uh and so i was like screw it fine i'll do it myself and built a 40 000 person online community

and it was awesome but the idea of you know so many times in my life i've been told it doesn't

work that way you know my youth pastor who loved me who mentored me discipled me jeff no one's ever

gonna pay you to no church is ever gonna hire you to be a digital pastor my youth pastor jeff you

can't do community digital you can't do a church digital you gotta be in physical and and you know

organizations thankfully like you are really facilitating those conversations are challenging

the status quo are really kind of leading out in that as communications director i'm curious do you

because i i get i get the negative feedback i get the flack i get people that that want to like

like pick a fight now i'm i'm a small dog and i'm more accessible and so like i get it i understand

do you get like negative feedback do you get people that are like like challenging even at the cv global

at that the the large level that you are are people kind of negative and pushing back towards a lot of

this digital in event and christ and in that what's what's been your experience as communications

director yeah for sure um i mean i need to anytime you put yourself out there put things out there

people have something to say you know yeah so um we this is just an example but um one of our articles

online is about how we have used chatbots so you know you go onto a church website and maybe

maybe you're someone who's really struggling and it's the middle of the night and you reach out to

a local church on your website no one's responding because no one's awake right so how how can we use

you know something like a chatbot to just even begin the conversation and we've built it in a way that it's

you know it's as you know biblically sound and would respond the way that we would respond um but then

ultimately connect them to a human so you know we've had things like that where we've we've um you know

advertised for lack of a better word on facebook this um article that we've put out on how you can

build the chatbot and give give some ideas based on our experience on what we've done you know and

people asking how can you use you know chatbots can't have conversations with people they're not

christians you know it's it's evil that sort of thing so yeah we we do get a lot of that but but

we also get a lot of great things said awesome so you negative comes in you just you just brush it off

i love that pretty much i mean we respond we can but yeah you're responding grace and love i i as a

personal like i just i'm not there like i i i i probably i probably get more quote-unquote fights i don't

want to say fights but i'll probably get in more fights than i probably should on that but

i'm learning god is god even even last night god's like you know you gotta gotta let it go gotta let

it go yeah move it off i always say like write out the response and then that you would want to and

then delete it and delete it yeah there was there was uh there was someone who's a well-known christian

pastor um wrote a a very negative article about about my organization and and named me personally in it

and i wrote the i wrote the scathing reply scathing reply and uh i never i never press send the the

best posts are the ones that you never send you know or the worst posts i guess but yeah i i i can

totally relate to that that that's cool um where did the like so digital day where did the

where did the uh the impetus where where did the idea come from for for bringing everybody together

like how how does that that fit into the culture of of what you're trying to do with um

uh with cv global yeah i think it was just birth from conversations of starting to get people together

in the room who wouldn't normally get together um you know you wouldn't normally see church pastors

and leaders in a room with a bunch of futurists and technologists and having conversations you know

knowing that they have the same heartbeat for reaching people for for christ um you really wouldn't

see those people having dinner together and so how can we create that unique space um and so those

conversations started and digital day was birthed um 2022 i think was the first one and has just grown

every year because we're just seeing a hunger for people wanting to be a part of this a community you

know it's a it's a we like to say it's a community of communities yeah so let's let's bring together

these these larger groups of communities into one room to have that conversation no i i just i i love the

idea of partnering of of connecting of sharing of working together like that has been another thing

that i've i've seen not only in cv global but a lot of the other global organizations missions

organizations they seem far more you know willing to have the conversation share resources um invest time

and and energy into that and so like the the the missions arm just seemed of of of this just seems to be far more

open and the the ability to facilitate some of those conversations to bring people together at a global level

is is beautiful what's um you know i guess i don't want to get too far behind but like 26 27 this is this is something you all are investing in for the future

yes definitely awesome is is is london always the spot london is i don't know that forever will be but it is the

spot spot now we do yeah we do have um events throughout the year so earlier this year in may

um we had an event in tokyo called future now and it's kind of like a mini digital day

um but that was in tokyo yeah and we have we had one last year so hopefully we'll have more of those

kind of mini digital day events throughout the year um in 2026 awesome so you tell me i need to i need to

plan on flying to uh to london uh sometime 20 november 26 next year yes yep mark it down all right we'll

plan on that and if and if you're ever interested in doing something in miami i would love uh to

facilitate hope help uh be a part of support something down here tell the miami office we need

to do something for latin and south america i sure will that'd be beautiful um what's coming up for

for cv global anything else to announce to tease to talk about gosh no i think i think that's it i think

if you haven't checked out our website like i would encourage people to do that see what we're all about

i love what you you know you know shared about just sharing resources and that's what we're about just

free resourcing individuals churches to share their faith and so yeah check it out see how you can

partner with us that would be awesome but yeah digital day that's the big one coming up and hopefully more

in the future awesome yeah so check out the resources over at cv global.org uh digital day i'm sure is

featured uh prominently on the web page click on that get more information on the event uh it's 99

dollars for on for physical online is free cost online is free okay cool so register yeah online is free

i will be registering and uh being apart from afar and so if you can't make it to london join me

uh for digital day uh on november 6th excited about that what's coming up and uh if you want to

contribute to the jeff flies to london fund uh you can reach out directly and you can help me be there

in 26 i may or may not be kidding but we'll we'll figure that out so marion thank you for for jumping

on this congratulations hopefully on a on a successful launch of digital day 25 and uh thank you for what

you're doing for um uh through uh for digital missions and and uh evangelism and discipleship through cv global

we're very thankful for the support that cv global has shown tcd and other organizations and what you're

doing to champion the cause of evangelism in christ and the gospel in in digital and virtual spaces so

cool any any as we're wrapping up here marion any closing thoughts no just thank you thank you for

having me on thank you for the conversation and i look forward to seeing people online and in person

beautiful so hey we're gonna land the plane thank you marion for being here for for marion this is uh

jeff uh with the church digital thanks for hanging out on uh the podcast today and uh we'll see you next

time on the show y'all have a good one