The Identity of Jesus | Charles Zimmerman | Calvary Church

Last week, Carlos kicked off the fall by

looking at Acts chapter 1. And the book

Acts 1 · chapter mention

of Acts is Luke's second volume. And he

mentioned, not sure you caught it or

not, he mentioned that our series for

the fall is going to be on Luke's first

volume. And the reason he looked at Acts

1 is because the second volume, the book

of Acts, is all about how the early

church continued exactly what Jesus was

doing. So what we're going to do for the

next number of weeks, we're going to

look at those things that Jesus began to

do. And we're going to do that by

looking at Luke. And so this morning,

we're going to look at what and why.

That first few verses. And then who.

That's the second part. So if you know

the what and the why and the who, you

basically know what we're going to talk

about today. We're going to talk about

the introduction to the book and the

identity of its primary subject. So, if

you have your Bibles, uh, you can grab

it or use your phone, your iPad, or just

kind of listen as I read. I'm going to

read the first four verses, and we're

going to look at the story of Jesus. And

Paul begins Paul, Luke begins in a very

interesting way. He tells us what the

book's going to be about. How's he doing

and why he's doing it this way? Listen

to how he begins.

Many have under have undertaken to draw

up an account of the things that have

been fulfilled among us just as they

were handed down to us by those who f

from the first were eyewitnesses and

servants of the word. With this in mind,

since I myself have carefully

investigated everything from the

beginning, I too decided to write an

orderly account for you, most excellent

Theophilos, so that you may know the

certainty of the things you have been

taught. All right. So, what's going on?

Well, let me call your attention to a

few things in those verses. And the last

part that I just read, he uh addresses

this to most excellent Theophilos. Well,

who the heck is Theophilus? And who

would ever name their kid that? Well,

Theophilus is a a compound word. It's a

compound word that means God lover.

Theos and then fileto, right? And so,

God lover. And there's some debate about

is it written to any God lover or I

think more likely it was written to and

and commissioned by this most excellent

Theophosa Theophilos, a person named

Theophilles. Because you got to remember

to do all this investigation was going

to be an expensive endeavor. And so

usually usually a wealthy high-profile

person would commission the research to

perform a particular task. And then the

book of Luke and the book of Acts, they

would be the result of what the patron

commissioned. And so probably the

beginning Luke's saying, "Hey,

Theophilles, thanks a lot for the

commission and I'm writing this back to

you as a result of the investigation,

but not only to Theophilus, to all of

those God lovers or those who want to

understand uh what he's going to write

about. Uh in the first couple verses

there, let me uh mention a couple other

things that that will get you started.

Luke tells us that this is going this

book is going to be the story of Jesus.

And he says it's going to be the account

of those things that were fulfilled.

Now, isn't that weird? Why didn't he

say, "I'm going to write about the

things that happened. I'm going to write

about the things that occur." He doesn't

say that. He said, "I'm going to write

about the things that have been

fulfilled." Why do you think he said

that? Well, here's what I think. Do you

realize that a little more than 75%

of the Bible is in the Old Testament?

Only about 25% in the New Testament. The

Old Testament gives the foundation,

gives all of the building blocks. The

New Testament gives the climax and the

culmination. But you really can't

understand what's happening in the New

Testament unless you understand

something about the 75% from the Old

Testament. You have temples and priests,

sacrifices, you have prophets, you have

descriptions, you have rituals, all this

stuff. But they're all like signposts.

They're all signs along the road

pointing to something in the future. The

something in the future is Jesus and his

ministry. So we often say the Bible's a

point and a purpose. The point is Jesus.

The purpose is to lead you to him. But

for 75% of the Bible, the foundation's

being laid. The signposts are being put

in place. And then Jesus shows up. Luke

says, "I'm here to tell you, I've done

my research. I'm here to tell you about

the point and the purpose. You need the

container and you need the content." I

was thinking about this that this

morning as I went to get my Starbucks.

And by the way, Starbucks and Giant is

closed. Closed yesterday. Very sad day.

A lot of tears. So, I had to go to

corporate Starbucks today and that was

fine, too. Um, but as I got my

Starbucks, I was walking to the car and

I thought, you know what? This is kind

of what Luke does.

Uh, how's that work? Well,

you need a container

and you need the contents.

Um, it would be ridiculous to get the

cup without the contents. Yet, the only

reason for a cup is to deliver the

contents. The only thing worse than

having a cup without the coffee is

having the coffee without the cup. You

see, they both have to go together. You

need a container in order to have the

content delivered. That's what Luke's

saying. So, I've done my investigation.

I put together I'm lay I'm building on

the foundation. I'm giving you the

content story of Jesus in the container

of this gospel. Just like we could

extrapolate and say the whole Bible is

the container. The primary content in

the container. The only reason for the

container is to deliver the content of

Jesus, the things that were fulfilled

among you. He then says, um, I'm going

to report to you what the eyewitnesses

have seen and heard. Now, you need to

remember Luke was not an eyew witness of

the [snorts] things that Jesus did and

said, huh? But he interviewed lots of

eyewitnesses and he takes their

accounts. He investigated thoroughly and

he writes this gospel based on the

eyewitness accounts. And that's really

important. The gospel of Luke was

probably written in the early 60s as

best we can tell. Jesus was crucified

and rose from the dead. Say 30. So, uh,

it's about 30ome years between the

events that Luke's recording and the

actual document that he's red producing.

Well, you know what? Lo's eyewitnesses

are still living. It's one thing to

fabricate a story that happened like a

zillion years ago and there no

eyewitnesses around. It's another deal

to say, "Hey, this happened and there

are eyewitnesses around that can

contradict and correct your story." So,

for example, suppose you were to say,

"But if Flyers have been terrible for a

while,

I don't think they'll ever win, and they

have never won a Stanley Cup."

That's not true.

I was there.

I went to the parades. I saw the wins. I

saw the Stanley Cup. And even though it

was like over 50 years ago, it happened.

Then if that's 50ome years ago, there

were still eyewitnesses eyewitness

around 30 some years. You can't tell a

story. You can't present things that

aren't true if there are eyewitnesses

still running around. We also know from

the book of Acts that even though Luke

was not an eyewitness, he traveled with

Paul on his missionary journeys. And

just like he lays just like um Luke lays

out in Acts, Judea, Samaria to the ends

of the earth. That was kind of Luke's

itinerary. Judea, Samaria, the ends of

the earth. Luke had lots of opportunity

as he traveled with Paul to interview

people that were eyewitnesses. Luke

gives us the most detailed account of

Jesus birth with the shepherds and Mary

and all. Where did he get that? He

probably talked to Mary. He pro she was

probably one of the eyewitnesses. He

said, "Mary, what'd you feel? How'd it

go? What did the angel say?" He's

recording what the eyewitnesses said. So

even though he was not an eyewitness, he

interviewed people that were still

alive. They were eyewitnesses. He put

all this together into an orderly

account so that now he can communicate

the content, the point and purpose of

Luke and of the Bible as Jesus. Now

there's one other thing I want to say

about those verses. Notice it says, "I'm

going to report to you the things that

were fulfilled among us." So Luke is not

a record of all the teachings of Jesus.

It's not a collection of the Now there

are teachings in there and it's not a

collection of all the things Jesus said.

Even though there are lots of sayings in

there because you ever realize

we are not forgiven, we don't experience

salvation because of what Jesus taught.

We experience salvation or forgiven

because of what Jesus did.

Now, what he said illustrates and

explains what he did. But if you were

saved by what Jesus taught, that means

you would be f you would you would save

yourself by doing what Jesus said and

you kind of earn your way. That's not

it. We're not saved by what he taught.

We're saved by what he did because we

cannot do what he taught. Therefore,

Jesus came to do what we couldn't do so

that we can then experience what we do

not deserve. So Luke begins by telling

us what and telling us why he put all

this together. So we will have the

contents of g of Jesus, the point and

purpose of scripture. But that's kind of

the who and the what. Oh, excuse me, the

the what and the why from chapter 1.

Now, we're going to look at a couple

sections from chapter two and chapters

two and three that tell us the who. Now,

some of you are thinking, "So, are we

going to talk about Christmas?" We're

not talking about Christmas. In fact,

I'll kind of lay out the next few months

for you. We're going to look at the main

thing, right? Who is Jesus and how we

can follow him. And we're going to do

that by looking at select passages in

Luke. We're not going to go verse by

verse. We're going to kind of select

passages. We'll work with the passage.

And we're going to skip over all the

Christmas stuff. You know, Luke has the

most detailed Christmas stuff. Why are

we going to do that? Because in

December, we're going to do the

beginning of Luke. Because if you

understand the point and the purpose of

what it's about, then we'll go back and

look at how Jesus entered our world and

you'll see that all of those details are

actually given to us in in minuscule

upfront as he's about to do it. Well,

what do we learn about the who? We learn

all about sunship. Chapter 2 and three

of Luke is all about Jesus, the son of

God, right? He's the son. And he gives

us two examples of what Jesus did and

and what happened. And they're really

interesting. The first of those is in

the temple temple sunship in the temple.

Now, we don't have time to read that

whole account, but let me kind of tell

you what's going on. You read it later.

So, here's what's going on. Mary and

Joseph, as good practicing Jews, every

Passover, they would take the family,

right? Jesus and the oldest son, they

would take them and they would travel to

Jerusalem to celebrate Passover.

Well, we don't know anything. Luke only

tells us when Jesus bore nativity and

then it fast forwards and at the end of

chapter 2, we have this one weird

incident when Jesus was 12. Fast forward

from birth to 12. Then we get these few

verses about 12. So when Jesus was 12,

the family travels from where they

living, Nazareth. They travel down to

Jerusalem and a really weird incident

happens. They go, they celebrate

Passover and they're heading back home

and they're heading back home and after

a day or so on the journey, they realize

um they're missing something

like the son. Where's Jesus? Now, that's

kind of easy to some of you think, boy,

they're terrible parents and Mary and

Joseph. Wow. How how can you leave your

son, right? You have to Well, it's easy

to understand if you think of it like

this. The men probably traveled together

and the women probably travel together

and the men would talk about, you know,

the eagles and work and their aches and

pains and the women would travel alone.

They would talk about the men and so

they're traveling separately home. And

so Mary probably assumes Jesus is with

Joseph and Joseph probably assumes,

well, Jesus is with Mary. And lo and

behold, after a whole day, they maybe

get together for dinner. And Joseph

says, "Well, where's Jes?" Mary says,

"Well, I thought he was with you." No,

he's not with me. Uhoh. Where is he?

They go back to Jerusalem. And after two

more After 3 days, they find him. He's

in the temple

debating, arguing, and talking to the

religious leaders, the priests, and the

teachers.

And that they're like amazed at what

this 12-year-old kid knows. And he's

kind of, well, that's not true. He's

correcting what their interpretation is

about the Bible. They're arguing and

debating. Mary then says, "Let me uh

read these verses to you."

Mary says,

as soon as I find it,

when his parents saw him, they were

astonished. His mother said to him, now

check this out, "Son, why have you

treated us like this?" Typical mom. Your

father and I are anxiously searching for

you. You kind of throw the dad name in,

right? To add weight. your father. Um,

why are you searching for me? Jesus, why

are you searching for me? He asked.

Didn't you know I had to be in my

father's house?

That's not just an interesting way and

turn of phrase. What does Mary say? Your

father. What's Jesus say? My father.

Huh? Now, so what's going on? Uh, there

are some people that write books and

they don't know what they're talking

about. They'll say, "Well, this is Jesus

bar mitzvah." Bar mitzvah doesn't come

to the middle ages. Nothing about bar

mitzvah. But we do know this as Jewish

kids were being raised. Um they kind of

had a two-prong approach to education.

One was you learn how to read so you can

read Torah. You learn how to understand

the Bible, right? And so you did that

part time. But the main purpose of

education was to learn the family trade.

And so Joseph is a carpenter. And so

Jesus would go to school and he'd learn

how to read so he could read Torah. And

he would learn from Joseph how to be a

carpenter. Two-prong. But when you hit

your early teens, you know, kind of when

you're uh you're done with school and

there are no middle schoolers here and

that doesn't work in our culture, but

back then you got to hit your early

teens and you don't you that one prong's

done. You know how to read, you're done.

Now you're full-time learning daddy's

trade. You're learning the family

business. And so Jesus is right at that

point. Not exactly sure how to hand a

handoff works, but the one thing is

clear. Jesus is transitioning from a

two-pronged education to a singular

prong of educ education where he's going

to learn the family business.

Matter of words ring a little

differently. Mary says

Jesus your father

family trade. You got to get home to

learn the family business. What's Jesus

say? My father.

Mom, I am learning the family business.

Joseph's family business is carpentry.

Tables, chairs, doors.

My father's business is redemption,

salvation.

I'm learning that. And in the very next

chapter, it begins the ministry where

Jesus has learned the family business

and he's commissioned then to fulfill

the family business of redemption and

salvation. not carpentry and making

tables.

Isn't it also amazing? Mary says my your

father. Jesus says my father. And at the

beginning of the sermon on the mount,

Jesus says, pray like this, our father.

That's where this is going. You kind of

know where the end of the message is.

So, we got sunship in the temple where

Jesus says, "I am the son. I'm learning

the family business. I'm sitting here

with the scholars. I'm sitting here with

those who understand and those that are

supposed to lay this out for people. I'm

learn. Can you imagine? He's correcting

what their what their understanding of

the Old Testament was. Well, guys, let

me explain to you what that really

means. Um, and they're dumbfounded.

But then we get another sunship passage

in chapter 3. Now, in in chapter 3, it's

not sunship in the temple. Now, it's

sunship in the river. Fast forward

again. So, the first couple chapters of

Luke, Jesus is born, nativity. Fast

forward to the end of chapter 2, Jesus

is now 12. Fast forward again to chapter

3, Jesus is now 30. So, this is not a

biography like biographies we read with

every detail spelled out of a person's

life. Luke's hitting the highlights.

He's investigated everything. He's

laying out what must be fulfilled and

how it's going to fit together.

Now, it's sunship in the river. So Jesus

comes to be baptized and uh a strange

incident happens as Jesus is being

baptized. Now here's what God says.

Jesus is baptized. John the Baptist. And

as he's being lifted from the water, a

voice booms from heaven.

You are my son. Oh, there we are again.

Right. Sunship in the temple. My father.

Sunship in the river. You are my son

whom I love.

With you

I am well pleased.

Now those words probably sound familiar

to you a little bit.

And maybe you're thinking, "Yeah,

they're familiar because I've read that

a few times before, right? Matthew has

it in mind. There I've read it before."

Others are thinking, "No, no, no. I

remember I didn't sleep that Sunday

morning, Charles, when we did Psalm two

and we talked about sunship in Psalm

two." because you realize um you are my

son. That's a quote from Psalm 2. Psalm

2 is a messianic psalm. And what's Psalm

two about? In a nutshell, Psalm 2 is all

about God saying, "One day, I'm going to

send my son, the Messiah. He will be the

conquering, victorious king. He's going

to come to make things right." Yeah, you

live in a broken world. Things aren't

fitting together. I'm going to send my

son. He's going to be a king and he's

going to make all things right. Justice

will rule. Psalm two. So, as Jesus is

being baptized, God says,

he's here.

He's here. Remember that promise? I'm

going to I'm going to send my son. He's

going to be the Messiah. He's going to

be the king. He's going to bring

justice, makes it great. He's here. Here

he is.

But that's not the end of the quote.

That's not even the end of a sentence

from Luke 2. But here's the weird thing.

The second part of the sentence, with

you I am well pleased, that does not

come from Psalm 2.

It does come from the Old Testament,

part of that 75%, but not Psalm 2. You

know where that comes from? Isaiah 42.

Huh? Isaiah 42 is not about the Messiah

as the conquering king to bring justice

and make things right. Isaiah 42 is a

servant song, a suffering servant song

that finds its climax in Isaiah 53. And

we learn from the servant songs that God

is going to send a servant, a suffering

servant, and he is going to take the

guilt of all of the world, the guilt of

those that trust in him, and he's going

to pay. He will bear the punishment that

that guilt deserves.

Because if the conquering king comes to

bring justice and make things right,

well, there's not a human being that's

ever lived that will then be able to

stand. So then God says, "Yeah, but I'm

going to send my suffering servant." And

the suffering servant realizes not

everybody has their acts together. In

fact, nobody does. But those who admit

their problem, admit their sin and hand

their guilt over to the suffering

servant, the ser the suffering of the

servant will actually pay for the for

those that trust him by taking the guilt

away.

What does Luke say?

One Messiah,

conquering king who comes to make things

right,

suffering servant who comes to bear our

guilt. Not two, one.

The conquering Messiah is the suffering

servant. And what does Luke say? The

voice booms from heaven.

He has arrived.

The conquering king to bring justice.

the suffering servant to pay for guilt.

He has arrived. He is now here. That's

the who. That's the content. And right

at the beginning, Luke says um who the

who the climax is Jesus. He's the one

that is all of the content. He's the one

that all the signs point to. Now,

before we continue, let let me just make

a point here that sometimes we we mix

up. Do you understand the order?

Remember what Luke said? I've

interviewed all these eyewitnesses and

I'm putting together an orderly account.

That doesn't mean everything's

chronological in the book, but it does

mean it's an orderly account. Here's an

order of first importance.

Sunship precedes ministry.

Jesus hasn't done anything yet.

What does he need

as he goes into the desert to follow and

he's tempted by the devil? What does he

need as he engages with people who won't

believe? What does he need as he begins

his ministry? What does he need as he's

going to take our sin and suffer for it?

What does he need as he's going to raise

from the dead? He needs to know above

everything else who he is. He's a son of

God. Identity precedes ministry. That's

true for us. You don't become a son by

doing lots of ministry. You do lots of

ministry because you're a son. Sunship

precedes ministry.

But Jesus didn't go through his min. You

read Luke and tell me if this is right.

Jesus didn't go through the rest of his

ministry saying to people, "I'm God's

son and you're not." He doesn't do that.

What does he do? He said, 'I am God's

son, God's unique son, and by trusting

me, you can be sons and daughters of

God, too. Right? Your father, my father,

our father. That's how the transgression

go or that that's how the transition

goes.

So, what's our sunship in Jesus? Well,

Luke's going to lay that out through the

rest of his gospel. But maybe a place

for you to see that real clearly was

written by Paul. And Paul, in my mind at

least, Paul's thinking about the river.

He's thinking about Jesus sunship in the

river as he records these words.

Now, Paul's writing to the people in

Romans, but he's also writing to us.

Listen to what he says about sons and

daughters. The spirit you've received

did not make you slaves so that you live

in fear again. Rather, the spirit you

received brought about your adoption to

sunship, and by him we cry, "Aba,

Father." The Spirit himself testifies

with our spirit that we are God's

children.

Now, what does that mean? I would say it

like this.

If you've admitted that you need a

savior and you're trusting Jesus for

forgiveness and acceptance, if

you need to hear the father say over you

what he said over Jesus in the river,

you are my son.

You're my daughter

whom I love.

With you I am well pleased.

Not just to Jesus, but as we trust him,

God says those words over us. Sunship

precedes ministry.

All right. Well, uh, what does that mean

practically? Well, let me tease out a

couple things and then we're done. First

of all, it means intimacy. It means

intimacy. Do you realize that, um, your

kids

can do, say, and request things of you

that nobody else can? Uh, let me give

you an example.

Uh, a few weeks ago, it's kind of late

one evening. Uh, I'm lying in bed

watching a game. Kim's kind of cleaning

up, getting ready to come to bed, and

the phone, her phone rings, and I can

tell from Kim's end of the conversation

that this is going to be a long night.

The conversation goes something like

this. Well, how did you do that?

What do you want me to do?

I'll see what he's doing.

Well, anyway, here's what I find out.

Megan took the two French bulldogs for a

walk. Mike's at work and the door locks

behind her.

Not the strong door, you know, wood. The

screen door.

She said, "I come back, the screen door

is locked. I can't get in." I pull the

screen door. I'm pushing. I can't get

in. Um, Kim says, "We'll be right over."

I'm think, "What? What do you mean we?

We what?" Um,

so I got out of bed

and I put on my shorts

and I found Kim's utility knife

and we jumped in the car and we went to

Megan's in a very short order. I cut the

screen out of that door. We reached in,

opened the door, they went in, and I

went home.

Now, what's the moral of that story? If

you ever get locked out of your house,

do not call me. I'm not coming. But

Megan, even though she's 37, she got mad

when I said that. Even though she's 37.

She can call me and Kim can say, "We'll

be right over." Because it's different

if your kid calls and says, "I need

you." And if you call and I'm not even

answering.

See how that works?

Well, through Jesus, God has become our

father

24/7.

He waits to hear from us even more than

we want to talk to him.

Time, energy, priorities at our disposal

because through Jesus, we're his kids.

Intimacy, 247

access.

That's pretty amazing, isn't it? the

king of the universe.

You have him on speed dial waiting to

listen. Not just intimacy, but also

safety. Now, safety, protection, Jesus

is our shepherd. All those things we

learn. I was reminded of that yesterday.

Two grandsons had their first little

league game yesterday. So, we show up,

there must be thousands of people at the

Hardiesville Fields. And a lot of the

kid first game, right, the little kids,

six, seven years old, they're all

nervous and I don't know what to do

until dad shows up. Dad's behind the

batting cage. All of a sudden, the

seven-year-old thinks he's he's been

just been inducted to the Hall of Fame.

He walks up twirling the bat. Watch the

one kid said, "Watch this, Dad. I'm

going to nuke it." Yeah.

And dad being there kind of makes all

the difference, doesn't it?

Well, our heavenly father being I'm the

present and I'm the He's always with

you. Always. Well, there's kind of an

upside and downside there. Always with

you. He sees what you're doing, but also

always with you to protect you, take

care of you. We're safe. Isn't it a

maybe one of the most sobering days of

your life is the day you realize that uh

your father can't fix all your hurts,

can he?

And your father can't make all the

problems go away,

but your heavenly father can. There's no

problem beyond his ability, no situation

he can't handle. He's your dad. Intimacy

and safety. Well, there's one more, and

that's community. Somebody, yeah, I knew

you were going to get here, Charles. I

comm Well, if God's our father and we're

sons and daughters of God through Jesus,

that means we're brothers and sisters.

Um, you don't always like your siblings,

right? But they're blood.

Now,

most of you in this room are parents.

And so, let me uh at least mention a

hypothetical situation that you probably

have never experienced, but in my

wildest imagination, I can think of

something like this happening with

little kids. Mom, he wore my shirt and

didn't ask me. Dad, he took my iPad.

Now, I can't get back to where I was.

Mom, he wore my shoes. No, I didn't.

Your feet stink. I don't want to wear

your shoes. Mom, he's in my room

messing. You've ever heard those

conversations, right? I often wonder why

the uh parent when I hear them or in my

mind. Um I feel like the parent should

walk in and say,

"Your shirt,

your iPad,

you you own nothing. You don't have a

job. You didn't pay for it. IT'S ALL MY

STUFF. You know what? They're my shoes.

That's my shirt. That's my iPad. And you

know what? I'm lending it to you because

I'm kind and gracious. I brought you in.

I can take you out. It's my stuff.

You ever

wonder if God thinks like that?

It's all my stuff. And you brothers and

sisters down there fighting about yours

and mine and hoarding. It's all mine.

I've graciously given it to you. And

here you are hoarding my stuff, acting

like somehow you deserve it. Somehow you

weren't. It's my stuff. And what pleases

a parent more

than siblings who lovingly share. I I

know. Imagine that, right? In your

wildest dreams, it may happen. They

share. They generously give. They help

each other. If that pleases you as a

parent,

that's got to please God as our father.

So this whole sunship thing, preceding

ministry,

not just an exercise in understanding of

cool principles from the beginning of

Luke,

it's all about intimacy with the King of

Kings. 247

access.

Make yourself available today.

safety.

You can trust God to take care of your

schedule, take care of your bank

account. Okay? You can trust him. Again,

he gives us a part to play. You can

trust him with all that. Oh, yeah. In

community, why don't we stop hoarding

and start lovingly sharing, being

generous with our brothers and sisters.

Sunship precedes ministry. out of the

well of all that we have through Christ

now live as sons and daughters of God

through him. That's kind of the whole

message of Luke in like 30 minutes.

That's not bad, right? Let's pray.

Father, we give you thanks for all the

work that Luke did. We're not exactly

sure about the hours he sat down with

the eyewitnesses. We're not sure about

the headaches he may have gotten or the

problems he may have experienced putting

it together, wrestling over words,

allowing your spirit to move and maybe

erasing some things that he put

together.

But Lord, we're thankful for what the

spirit energized him to write

because he tells us what and why.

Most importantly, he tells us who. Lord,

help us to view the Bible accurately.

just a container.

You only need the container to deliver

the contents. But without the container,

he can't get the contents. The point and

the purpose is Jesus. Lord, help us to

uh see him more clearly, follow him more

closely, and may this fall be a really

key step in that whole process. We pray

in his name. Amen.