EP 21: SCC Savor, Month 5, days 20-25

Allen Smith: Well, welcome back to the SCC Saver Podcast, where we are savoring God through every bite of scripture. As always, I'm one of your co-hosts, Alan, Pastoral Apprentice at Q Sanibel. We live on Sanibel. Sanibel, this is Sanibel Community Church. ⁓ and I'm joined with my good friend here, Jeremy Rennie. Great to be back with you. It's great to have you back. We don't have our brother Teddy, unfortunately, today. He's being a good husband, being faithful, and our as our church has been praying, really praying for them. It's been really encouraging, really sweet.

Jeramie: Well, welcome back to the SCC Saver Podcast, where we are savoring God through every bite of scripture. As always, I'm one of your co-hosts, Alan, Pastoral Apprentice at Q Sanibel. We live on Sanibel. Sanibel, this is Sanibel Community Church. ⁓ and I'm joined with my good friend here, Jeremy Rennie. Great to be back with you. It's great to have you back. We don't have our brother Teddy, unfortunately, today. He's being a good husband, being faithful, and our as our church has been praying, really praying for them. It's been really encouraging, really sweet.

Allen Smith: ⁓ Jamie, I got a couple questions for you. Okay. If you could instantly become an expert in one completely random skill, what would it be? Any r a skill. A skill, yeah, a skill. We know you're already skilled at everything, but like one that you haven't mastered yet. ⁓ You can't be overlord of board gaming 'cause you're already that. Yeah, I am o the overlord of board gaming. ⁓ I don't know. I I'm just thinking that Napoleon Dynamite's coming to me. Okay. You know.

Jeramie: ⁓ Jamie, I got a couple questions for you. Okay. If you could instantly become an expert in one completely random skill, what would it be? Any r a skill. A skill, yeah, a skill. We know you're already skilled at everything, but like one that you haven't mastered yet. ⁓ You can't be overlord of board gaming 'cause you're already that. Yeah, I am o the overlord of board gaming. ⁓ I don't know. I I'm just thinking that Napoleon Dynamite's coming to me. Okay. You know.

Allen Smith: Num Chuck skills, computer hacking skills. ⁓ You know what? Yeah. It would be a master chef. ⁓ Yeah. Yeah. I would like to be a chef, but it seems like it'd take a long time to learn how to do that. Yeah. But ⁓ yeah. How about you? ⁓ man. mine would probably be just like a mastery of languages. There you go. It's not really random though. No. But just that's good. Yeah. But just being able to really learn a language really quickly.

Jeramie: Num Chuck skills, computer hacking skills. ⁓ You know what? Yeah. It would be a master chef. ⁓ Yeah. Yeah. I would like to be a chef, but it seems like it'd take a long time to learn how to do that. Yeah. But ⁓ yeah. How about you? ⁓ man. mine would probably be just like a mastery of languages. There you go. It's not really random though. No. But just that's good. Yeah. But just being able to really learn a language really quickly.

Allen Smith: Would be amazing. You would like to be a polyglot. A polyglot. I didn't even know that's what that is. Well, that's someone who knows a lot of languages, which assumes they can pick them up real quick. That's great. That's my new fun fact. I want to be a polyglot. Polyglot. ⁓ okay. Speaking of you want to be a chef, give us the most underrated snack of all time. ⁓ I don't know if it's the most, but I think high up on the list is the date.

Jeramie: Would be amazing. You would like to be a polyglot. A polyglot. I didn't even know that's what that is. Well, that's someone who knows a lot of languages, which assumes they can pick them up real quick. That's great. That's my new fun fact. I want to be a polyglot. Polyglot. ⁓ okay. Speaking of you want to be a chef, give us the most underrated snack of all time. ⁓ I don't know if it's the most, but I think high up on the list is the date.

Allen Smith: I love dates. Dates are wonderful, high in fiber. You know, I I I always enjoyed them, but after living ⁓ in the Middle East, like there's there are so many types of dates. Really? Just like you go to the date, we go to the date souk and ⁓ and you sit there and try ⁓ And ⁓ my favorite is one, if you ever get over there, called the Sukari. Okay. Sukari just means sugar. Sukari is the Arabic word also for diabetes. So it just means sugar. And so they're so sweet.

Jeramie: I love dates. Dates are wonderful, high in fiber. You know, I I I always enjoyed them, but after living ⁓ in the Middle East, like there's there are so many types of dates. Really? Just like you go to the date, we go to the date souk and ⁓ and you sit there and try ⁓ And ⁓ my favorite is one, if you ever get over there, called the Sukari. Okay. Sukari just means sugar. Sukari is the Arabic word also for diabetes. So it just means sugar. And so they're so sweet.

Allen Smith: They're the sweetest dates. So, like are dates good for you? ⁓ yeah. For sure. The only time I eat dates is when I go over to Pastor Chris's house and he makes smoothies and he puts dates in the smoothies. ⁓ yeah. They're great. But just like pop ⁓ straight. Anyway, that's my that's my underrated snake. It's like a little sugar hit? Little sugar hit, a little fiber. Yeah. Yummy, yummy. Interesting. All right, one last question. Yep. ⁓ what's the most Florida thing you've experienced recently?

Jeramie: They're the sweetest dates. So, like are dates good for you? ⁓ yeah. For sure. The only time I eat dates is when I go over to Pastor Chris's house and he makes smoothies and he puts dates in the smoothies. ⁓ yeah. They're great. But just like pop ⁓ straight. Anyway, that's my that's my underrated snake. It's like a little sugar hit? Little sugar hit, a little fiber. Yeah. Yummy, yummy. Interesting. All right, one last question. Yep. ⁓ what's the most Florida thing you've experienced recently?

Allen Smith: Recently the infamous four have you run into the Florida Man recently. ⁓ they're ever well, the scary thing is I think I'm becoming sometimes Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So yeah. I you know, I saw Jennifer and I were walking down the beach the other day and we saw this group of like young Florida bucks and they were all out there with their huge like sharking rods. And and then they were this guy was working to pull in a huge fish and that kid pulled in like a six foot tarpon.

Jeramie: Recently the infamous four have you run into the Floor Demand recently. ⁓ they're ever well, the scary thing is I think I'm becoming sometimes Yeah. Yeah, yeah. So yeah. I you know, I saw Jennifer and I were walking down the beach the other day and we saw this group of like young Florida bucks and they were all out there with their huge like sharking rods. And and then they were this guy was working to pull in a huge fish and that kid pulled in like a six foot tarpon.

Allen Smith: And suddenly all these young like teenagers and twenty somethings are running out into there and they're like grabbing it and holding it up. And it was so I was like, This is such a Florida young Florida guy thing. Like all these guys were like amped up on adrenaline. Yeah, it was really that's epic, dude. It was epic. It's really epic. Yeah. Yeah.

Jeramie: And suddenly all these young like teenagers and twenty somethings are running out into there and they're like grabbing it and holding it up. And it was so I was like, This is such a Florida young Florida guy thing. Like all these guys were like amped up on adrenaline. Yeah. It was really That's epic, dude. It was epic. It's really epic. Yeah. Yeah.

Allen Smith: Dang, I wish I had that experience. That'd be so cool as a child. You get I know they're they're talking about that for weeks, dude. You're the coolest guy around town. ⁓ yeah. That's gonna he's they're gonna be talking about that in their forties. They're gonna be like, dude, remember the tarp. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Well, ⁓ unfortunately, I don't have tarpon skills, but no, you know, hey, we're here. ⁓ but we're gonna talk about the Bible. So I don't know if it's gonna teach you how to fish. ⁓ Jesus does say I'll make you fishers of men. But indeed. Indeed.

Jeramie: Dang, I wish I had that experience. That'd be so cool as a child. You get I know they're they're talking about that for weeks, dude. You're the coolest guy around town. ⁓ yeah. That's gonna he's they're gonna be talking about that in their forties. They're gonna be like, dude, remember the tarp. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Well, ⁓ unfortunately, I don't have tarpon skills, but no, you know, hey, we're here. ⁓ but we're gonna talk about the Bible. So I don't know if it's gonna teach you how to fish. ⁓ Jesus does say I'll make you fishers of men. But indeed. Indeed.

Allen Smith: Well, ⁓ let's talk about where are we at? We're in yeah. We're in month five days twenty through twenty-five. So finishing up month five. Month five. Good job. Good job. Yeah. Finished up second Samuel 14 to 24. Psalms were one thirteen through one eighteen. Galatians three, fifteen through six. So finished up three books in this one. ⁓ finished up Mark. Yeah, and then we finished up Mark fourteen through sixteen here. So that's great. Yeah, the conclusion of a lot of books here, which is

Jeramie: Well, ⁓ let's talk about where are we at? We're in Yeah. We're in month five days twenty through twenty-five. So finishing up month five. Month five. Good job. Good job. Yeah. Finished up second Samuel fourteen through twenty-four. Psalms were one thirteen through one eighteen. Galatians three, fifteen through six. So finished up three books in this one. ⁓ finished up Mark. Yeah, and then we finished up Mark fourteen through sixteen here. So that's great. Yeah, the conclusion of a lot of books here, which is

Allen Smith: Which is great. So jumping back into the latter half of Second Samuel. So in the first half we kind of see David's rise and his success, his triumphant victories and war and his rising and his character. And then the latter half is a little bit more depressing. Yeah, that's right. And I think the second half is showing the ⁓ fallout from the David and Bathsheba episode and and the curse that God pronounces that the sword would never leave his family. And so that comes to fruition.

Jeramie: Which is great. So jumping back into the latter half of Second Samuel. So in the first half we kind of see David's rise and his success, his triumphant victories and war and his rising and his character. And then the latter half is a little bit more depressing. Yeah, that's right. And I think the second half is showing the ⁓ fallout from the David and Bathsheba episode and and the curse that God pronounces that the sword would never leave his family. And so that comes to fruition.

Allen Smith: in the story of Absalom and ⁓ and and the you know Absalom betraying his father and leading a coup ⁓ coup d'etat against his father. Yeah. ⁓ and then coup d'etat, no that's not the right word, is it? I don't know. No.

Jeramie: in the story of Absalom and ⁓ and and the you know Absalom betraying his father and leading a coup ⁓ coup d'etat against his father. Yeah. ⁓ and then ⁓ coup d'etat, no that's not the right word, is it? I don't know. No.

Allen Smith: You got me on that one. Maybe it's kibosh. Put the kibosh on that. Okay, sorry. I get distracted by words. Okay. ⁓ yeah, so then and then he ⁓ Absalom ⁓ you know takes over and ⁓ and then he ⁓ eventually is defeated. I I think what's so interesting for me is just the the rockiness of David's life. I mean it starts out hard and then he's triumphant and then it ends kind of rough.

Jeramie: You got me on that one. Maybe it's kibosh. Put the kibosh on that. Okay, sorry. I get distracted by words. Okay. ⁓ yeah, so then and then he ⁓ Absalom ⁓ you know takes over and ⁓ and then he ⁓ eventually is defeated. I I think what's so interesting for me is just the the rockiness of David's life. I mean it starts out hard and then he's triumphant and then it ends kind of rough.

Allen Smith: But in chapter twenty two, his song of thanksgiving and God's faithfulness. Yeah and you know, this is really the testimony of every believer. Like we look back on our lives through all the trials, ⁓ through our mistakes, through our failures, through the hard times we've been through. And like we go up and down like a yo-yo, but God is faithful. And and so I just think the placement of that psalm in chapter twenty two, after everything we've read about David, is such a a wonderful testimony of God's faithfulness.

Jeramie: But in chapter twenty two, his song of thanksgiving and God's faithfulness. Yeah and you know, this is really the testimony of every believer. Like we look back on our lives through all the trials, ⁓ through our mistakes, through our failures, through the hard times we've been through. And like we go up and down like a yo-yo, but God is faithful. And and so I just think the placement of that psalm in chapter twenty two, after everything we've read about David, is such a a wonderful testimony of God's faithfulness.

Allen Smith: Yeah, that's great. Yeah, that that's that song, it's like right, it's like you're reading this, you know, civil war, you're reading rejection, you're reading all of this occurring, murder, you're seeing murder, and then it's just ⁓ and it says David spoke to the Lord the words of this song on the day when the Lord delivered him from the hand of all of his enemies, yeah, and from the hand of Saul. And so we get a recounting of God's faithfulness to David because he promised, because he made the covenant with him back in chapter seven.

Jeramie: Yeah, that's great. Yeah, that that's that song, it's like right, it's like you're reading this, you know, civil war, you're reading rejection, you're reading all of this occurring, murder, you're seeing murder, and then it's just ⁓ and it says David spoke to the Lord the words of this song on the day when the Lord delivered him from the hand of all of his enemies, yeah, and from the hand of Saul. And so we get a recounting of God's faithfulness to David because he promised, because he made the covenant with him back in chapter seven.

Allen Smith: As we saw in that whole song of deliverance is just so beautiful. Puts you on your knees. It's you know, it goes throughout, you know, I think it's like fifty some verses or something. So good. Yeah, which is it's just amazing. ⁓ 32, just one little quick one. For who is God but the Lord and who is a rock except our God? The God, this God is my strength, was my strong refuge, and has made my way blameless, which is interesting. ⁓ because it's it kind of vindicates David, made his way blameless. David, we just saw, is suffering.

Jeramie: As we saw in that whole song of deliverance is just so beautiful. Puts you on your knees. It's you know, it goes throughout, you know, I think it's like fifty some verses or something. So good. Yeah, which is it's just amazing. ⁓ 32, just one little quick one. For who is God but the Lord and who is a rock except our God? The God, this God is my strength, was my strong refuge, and has made my way blameless, which is interesting. ⁓ because it's it kind of vindicates David, made his way blameless. David, we just saw, is suffering.

Allen Smith: From his his disobedience, but it's the Lord who is his refuge who's made his way, blameless. Mm-hmm. ⁓ one other interesting thing that I think speaks to our cultural moment is in David's last words in chapter twenty-three, he's there's this this little phrase in verses three and four says, The God of Israel spoke, the rock of Israel said to me

Jeramie: From his his disobedience, but it's the Lord who is his refuge who's made his way, blameless. Mm-hmm. ⁓ one other interesting thing that I think speaks to our cultural moment is in David's last words in chapter twenty-three, he's there's this this little phrase in verses three and four says, The God of Israel spoke, the rock of Israel said to me.

Allen Smith: The one who rules the people with justice, who rules in the fear of the Lord, is like the morning light when the sun rises on a cloudless morning, the glistening of rain on sprouting grass. In other words, this is a very positive view of authority. ⁓ which is interesting because in our culture, we have such a negative view of authority. Like the only authority that matters is the self. Yep. ⁓ and what the self feels. So the idea of like being under authority is like we generally say that's negative.

Jeramie: The one who rules the people with justice, who rules in the fear of the Lord, is like the morning light when the sun rises on a cloudless morning, the glistening of rain on sprouting grass. In other words, this is a very positive view of authority, which is interesting because in our culture, we have such a negative view of authority. Like the only authority that matters is the self. Yep. ⁓ and what the self feels. So the idea of like being under authority is like we generally say that's negative.

Allen Smith: But God says to David, if the person in authority will be just and will live in the fear of the Lord, it's actually like morning light. It's actually like ⁓ the sun shining on, you know, the the dew on the grass. It's a beautiful, good thing. Yeah. So, you know, the problem isn't authority. The problem is misused authority. Yeah. Yeah, that's a great point. And that's really one of the big themes that we're we're seeing throughout the story of David is that God is grazing up leaders and authority for his people. When when they fail, there is disobedience, but

Jeramie: But God says to David, if the person in authority will be just and will live in the fear of the Lord, it's actually like morning light. It's actually like ⁓ the sun shining on, you know, the the dew on the grass. It's a beautiful, good thing. Yeah. So, you know, the problem isn't authority. The problem is misused authority. Yeah. Yeah, that's a great point. And that's really one of the big themes that we're we're seeing throughout the story of David is that God is grazing up leaders and authority for his people. When when they fail, there is disobedience, but

Allen Smith: regardless, he's gonna provide and he's gonna be faithful, which as we've talked about many times before, how David is a developed type of Christ where who would foreshadow Christ to come, who would sit on his throne, and then it ultimately goes to show we need the authority and leadership of Jesus who will never fail us. That's right. Unlike David who did fail in s in sick profound ways. Yeah. I think ⁓ this is a quick little side note, which I think is kind of interesting, is you recounted the story of Absalom and his rebellion and seeking after David

Jeramie: regardless, he's gonna provide and he's gonna be faithful, which as we've talked about many times before, how David is a developed type of Christ where who would foreshadow Christ to come, who would sit on his throne, and then it ultimately goes to show we need the authority and leadership of Jesus who will never fail us. That's right. Unlike David, who did fail in s in sick profound ways. Yeah. I think ⁓ this is a quick little side note, which I think is kind of interesting, is you recounted the story of Absalom and his rebellion and seeking after David.

Allen Smith: Much of the Davidic Psalms were written d were written during this time. Yeah, that's right. It's like he's fleeing and he's like calling on the Lord, he's like, Lord help, Lord help. So it's just kind of fun if you read a lot of the Psalms as we have been, we've been talking about a lot of the Psalms, you you hear themes of this story of what was going on in his life. Yeah, I mean he's in the wilderness fleeing Saul and then after he becomes king, he's in the wilderness fleeing Absalom. Mm-hmm. So he finds himself on the run in both cases, pressed and ⁓ harried and hunted.

Jeramie: Much of the Davidic Psalms were written d were written during this time. Yeah, that's right. It's like he's fleeing and he's like calling on the Lord, he's like, Lord help, Lord help. So it's just kind of fun if you read a lot of the Psalms as we have been, we've been talking about a lot of the Psalms, you you hear themes of this story of what was going on in his life. Yeah, I mean he's in the wilderness fleeing Saul and then after he becomes king, he's in the wilderness fleeing Absalom. Mm-hmm. So he finds himself on the run in both cases, pressed and ⁓ harried and hunted.

Allen Smith: Yeah. That's good. Yeah, so that's kind of the conclusion to Second Samuel there and in in in First Kings, ⁓ we'll get some a continuation, we'll see this kingship, ⁓ and and how the Lord continues to provide and raise up leaders, ⁓ which we'll see with with Solomon. ⁓ and so yeah, we'll just we'll see David die in those next kind of things. But we'll talk about first Kings next time, but we're kinda kinda similar themes that we'll read and see throughout. Yeah.

Jeramie: Yeah. That's good. Yeah, so that's kind of the conclusion to Second Samuel there. And in in in First Kings, ⁓ we'll get some ⁓ a continuation, we'll see this kingship and how the Lord continues to provide and raise up leaders, ⁓ which we'll see with with Solomon. ⁓ and so yeah, we'll just we'll see David die in those next kind of things, but we'll talk about first Kings next time, but we're kinda kinda similar themes that we'll read and see throughout. Yeah. ⁓ Psalms. Yeah. I think the the psalm that

Allen Smith: ⁓ Psalms. Yeah. I think the the psalm that ⁓ popped for me this time was one fifteen, ⁓ which contrasts ⁓ the God of Israel with the nations. you know, our God is in the heavens, verse three, he does whatever he pleases. God God that's just a great verse to like, you know, rip put on your mirror and remember our God is in heaven, he does whatever he pleases. Yeah.

Jeramie: popped for me this time was 115, ⁓ which contrasts ⁓ the God of Israel with the nations. you know, our God is in the heavens, verse three, he does whatever he pleases. God, God, that's just a great verse to like, you know, rip put on your mirror and remember our God is in heaven, he does whatever he pleases. Yeah. There are things in life that don't make sense to us, but God rules

Allen Smith: There are things in life that don't make sense to us, but God rules and he rules according to the counsel of his own will, according to his own good pleasure. But the idols are nothing. You know, verses four through seven, they have mouths cannot speak, eyes cannot see, ears that cannot hear. And then verse eight, I I love this verse. Those who make them are just like them and are all who trust in them. So if you worship idols and you follow idols.

Jeramie: And he rules according to the counsel of his own will, according to his own good pleasure. But the idols are nothing. You know, verses four through seven, they have mouths cannot speak, eyes cannot see, ears that cannot hear. And then verse eight, I I love this verse. Those who make them are just like them and are all who trust in them. So if you worship idols and you follow idols, you'll be like them. You'll have eyes that can't see, ears that can't hear.

Allen Smith: You'll be like them. You'll have eyes that can't see, ears that can't hear. you you'll be insensible to things, which which is what which is what the spiritual condition is of sinful people. Yeah. You know, we have ears that don't hear, eyes that don't see, a heart that doesn't believe. Yeah. We're just like idols. And so when you worship anything but God, you become spiritually insensible to the things of God. Yeah. That's good. So let me let me ask you this, because

Jeramie: ⁓ you you'll be insensible to things, which which is what which is what the spiritual condition is of sinful people. Yeah. You know, we have ears that don't hear, eyes that don't see, a heart that doesn't believe. Yeah. We're just like idols. And so when you worship anything but God, you become spiritually insensible to the things of God. Yeah. That's good. So let me let me ask you this, because ⁓ when you read that our God is in the heavens, He does all that He pleases. Oftentimes God does whatever He wants.

Allen Smith: When you read that our God is in the heavens, He does all that He pleases. Oftentimes God does whatever He wants. This is not saying He's just some egotistical tyrant maniac up in heaven who likes to play around with with us humans or the world, because he can. But it's actually to offer us great comfort in a sense of comfort. How does how does the fact that God does whatever he pleases according to the council of his own of his own will, which we know that his will is always good? His will is perfect. That's the key right there. That's the key. It's because he is good.

Jeramie: This is not saying he's just some egotistical tyrant maniac up in heaven who d likes to play around with with us humans or the world because he can. But it's actually to offer us great comfort and a sense of comfort. How does how does the fact that God does whatever he pleases according to the council of his own of his own will, which we know that his will is always good? His will is perfect. That's the key right there. That's it's because he is good. That's right. So his character is it he it does as he pleases and it pleases him.

Allen Smith: That's right. So his character is it he it does as he pleases and it pleases him to glorify his name and his glory is seen in his mercy and kindness. So so what pleases God is exalting in himself because he is the best thing. Yeah. I mean, if God didn't like put himself first, then he would be sinning because God he's he's the best thing. That's right. So God loves himself, he loves his own name, but his nature and his name

Jeramie: To glorify his name and his glory is seen in his mercy and kindness. So so what pleases God is exalting in himself because he is the best thing. Yeah. I mean, if God didn't like put himself first, then he would be sinning because God he's he's the best thing. That's right. So God loves himself, he loves his own name, but his nature and his name in displaying that includes his love, mercy, and kindness toward us. So yeah, he gets the glory, we get the joy. Yeah.

Allen Smith: In displaying that includes his love, mercy, and kindness toward us. So he gets the glory, we get the joy. Yeah. Because of ⁓ the fact that he does what pleases him. Yeah. Our soul is most satisfied in the good triune God, who has a perfect love within himself between Father, Son, and Holy Spirit that pours over onto his creatures, onto his people, and shares in that love with us. Yeah, that's what that's what pleases him. So we don't have to fear that verse because.

Jeramie: Because of ⁓ the fact that he does what pleases him. Yeah. Our soul is most satisfied in the good triune God who has a perfect love within himself between Father, Son, and Holy Spirit that pours over onto his creatures, onto his people, and shares in that love with us. Yeah. That's what that's what pleases him. So we don't have to fear that verse because you know, got God is not a monster. He's not like an, you know, an evil megavillain like, you know, Sauron.

Allen Smith: You know, God God is not a monster. He's not like an you know, an evil mega villain like, you know, Sauron or you know, Darth Vader. I mean, he's not up in the heavens like working things out because he's ⁓ malevolent. Yeah. ⁓ God loves his glory. He the Father and the Son and the Spirit love each other. And as you said, it that love overflows in creation, ⁓ in his goodness to us. So it's it's good news that God does what pleases. Yeah, that's great.

Jeramie: Or you know, Darth Vader. I mean, he's not up in the heavens like working things out because he's malevolent. Yeah. ⁓ God loves his glory. He the Father and the Son and the Spirit love each other. And as you said, it that love overflows in creation in his goodness to us. So it's it's good news that God does what pleases. Yeah, that's great. The Psalms that ⁓ just really broadly was one sixteen, one seventeen, and one eighteen it's just

Allen Smith: The Psalms that ⁓ just really broadly was one sixteen, one seventeen, and one eighteen, it's just exalting in in like like we just said, like we ha our greatest joy and satisfaction is in God. It's like I love Yahweh because he's heard me, he's heard my voice, he's inclined his ear to me, he's gracious, he's righteous, he's merciful. And then seventeen one seventeen, just praise him. I just was on my knees and just just praise him. All nations, everyone's gonna praise him because he is good and his faithfulness endures forever.

Jeramie: Exalting in in like like we just said, like we ha our greatest joy and satisfaction is in God. It's like I love Yahweh because he's heard me, he's heard my voice, he's inclined his ear to me, he's gracious, he's righteous, he's merciful. And then 17, 117, just praise him. I just was on my knees and just just praise him. All nations, everyone's gonna praise him because he is good and his faithfulness endures forever. ⁓ and then one eighteen, the constant refrain, he's like, Hey, let Israel at the house of Aaron, let everyone say that.

Allen Smith: ⁓ and then one eighteen, the constant refrain, he's like, Hey, let Israel at the house of Aaron, let everyone say that his steadfast love endures forever. Chapters sixteen, seven ⁓ one sixteen, one seventeen, one eighteen are like just like praise with the amp turned all the way up. Yeah, it's like it's great. It goes to eleven. Yes, that's right. Yeah, turn the amp up on your ears. Yeah. We have a lot of people who have listen hearing aids. So if if you listen to the Bible

Jeramie: His steadfast love endors forever. Chapters sixteen, seven ⁓ one sixteen, one seventeen, one eighteen are like just like praise with the amp turned all the way up. It's like it's great. It goes to eleven. Yes. That's right. Yeah, turn the amp up on your ears. Yeah. We have a lot of people who out listen with e hearing aids. So if if you listen to the Bible, the one sixteen, one seventy, one eighteen, maybe can turn up the volume. We love you guys. Turn up the bass. Turn up the bass. That's right. And worship.

Allen Smith: The one sixteen, one seventy one, AT, maybe can turn up the volume. We love you guys. Turn up the bass. Turn up the bass. Mark? Yeah, Mark. Yeah. ⁓ a story that this is hinges on this is all of human history as it ch shifts ⁓ amongst these verses. Namely of of course I'm talking about the resurrection of the Son of God. Yeah. ⁓ so we just read the most important

Jeramie: The triangle. Mark. Yeah, Mark. Yeah. ⁓ a story that this is hinges on this is all of human history as it ch shifts ⁓ amongst these verses. Namely of of course I'm talking about the resurrection of the Son of God. Yeah. ⁓ so we just read the most important event that's a recorded in history. Yes. The crucifixion, death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus. That's right.

Allen Smith: Event that's a recorded in history. Yes. The crucifixion, death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus. That's right. Yeah. What so it actually starts off where we where we read ⁓ with with Peter denying Christ. Yeah. And I just think about you know, Peter kind of ha you know, has his battery for a reason in a way. He's kind of the, you know, ⁓

Jeramie: Yeah. What what so it actually starts off where we where we read ⁓ with with Peter denying Christ. Yeah. and I just think about you know, Peter kinda ha you know, he has this bad rep for a reason in a way. He's kind of the, you know, ⁓ you know, disobedient or kind of like unpredictable. He's kind of a spaz. He's kind of a spaz. Not even kinda, he is a spaz. He's a spaz. He's popping off all the time. He's yeah. And he's just like like

Allen Smith: you know, disobedient or kind of like unpredictable. ⁓ he's kind of a spaz. He's kind of a spaz. Not even kinda. He is a spaz. He's a spaz. He's popping off all the time. Yeah. And he's just like like, you know, ready fire aim kind of guy. He just shoots off his mouth and says all the stuff that everyone else is thinking. But they still want to say it. Yeah. It's funny because one of the things when you're reading the Bible is like you I think our natural tendency is like to assume we're a hero. Yeah. In the bi in the story. It's like, no, we actually need to

Jeramie: You know, ready fire aim kind of guy. He just ⁓ shoots off his mouth and says all the stuff that everyone else is thinking. But they just don't want to say it. Yeah. It's funny because one of the things when you're reading the Bible is like you I think our natural tendency is like to assume we're a hero. Yeah. In the bi in the story. It's like no, we actually need to get more into like, okay, where are all the people doing the bad things? That's probably us. That's probably us. That's probably right. Yeah, we're more like Peter. Yeah. But you know, g

Allen Smith: get more into like, okay, where are all the people doing the bad things? That's probably us. That's probably us. That's probably right. Yeah, we're more like Peter. Yeah. But you know, g and and there it is. I mean, just one of the things I again, we've said this before, but I love about the Bible is that the heroes, like you said, that you know, the main figures like Peter and David are shown in all of their brokenness and sinfulness. And the Bible doesn't hide it. No. And it shows it just constantly points us to the need of this moment that Jesus would bear our sins.

Jeramie: And and there it is. I mean, just one of the things I again we've said this before, but I love about the Bible is that the heroes, like you said, that you know, the main figures like Peter and David are shown in all of their brokenness and sinfulness. And the Bible doesn't hide it. Yeah. And it shows it just constantly points us to the need of this moment that Jesus would bear our sins. ⁓ you know, Pete Peter is ends up being the rock on which the church is built because Jesus

Allen Smith: ⁓ you know, Pete Peter is ends up being the rock on which the church is built because Jesus is the savior who died on the cross. If Jesus hadn't died for Peter, there's no way this Messiah denying dude would, you know, would stand. Yeah. Yeah, that's great. I was just reading ⁓ the Paul Washer's little gospel book. Okay. ⁓ and

Jeramie: Is the savior who died on the cross. If Jesus hadn't died for Peter, there's no way this Messiah denying dude would, you know, would stand. Yeah. Yeah, it's great. I was just reading Paul Washer's little gospel book. Okay. ⁓ and he hi up front, his introduction is like, hey, you know, it talks about all of our human sin and our rebellion, right? And it's just like, hey, if you're if you're not in this category, then this book has nothing to f to offer you. The gospel has nothing to offer you because Christ came for sinners.

Allen Smith: He hi up front, his introduction is like, hey, you know, it talks about all of our human sin and our rebellion, right? And it's just like, hey, if you're if you're not in this category, then this book has nothing to f to offer you. The gospel has nothing to offer you because Christ came for sinners. So if you're not a sinner, then I have nothing for you. Yeah, that's right. I I can't help you. I can't help you with that. I can't help you. It's just like wow. Well, that was the problem with the Pharisees. Yeah.

Jeramie: So if you're not a sinner, I have nothing for you. Yeah, that's right. I I can't help you. I can't help you with that. I can't help you. It's just like, wow. Well, that was the problem with the Pharisees. Yeah. Is that they didn't believe they needed the savior in the same way. And so, you know, Jesus is hanging out with all the lepers and the prostitutes and the tax collectors. And he's like, and they're Why are you hanging out with him? He's like, I came for the sick. That's why I'm the physician. You know, I came to seek and save the lost. ⁓ by the way, we had I think a couple

Allen Smith: lepers and the prostitutes and the tax collectors. And he's and they're Why are you hanging out with them? He's like, I came for the sick. That's why I'm the physician. You know, I came to seek and save the lost. ⁓ by the way, we had, I think a couple weeks back or a couple of podcasts back, we had said, can anyone reach out to us with the three public moments when Jesus is publicly identified as the Son of God without it being shushed? I mean demons try to say it and Jesus shushes them. Yep.

Jeramie: Weeks back or a couple of podcasts back, we had said, can anyone reach out to us with the three public moments when Jesus is publicly identified as the Son of God without it being shushed? I mean, demons try to say it and Jesus shushes them. Yep. And the first one was his baptism, where the voice from heaven says, This is my son. The second was the transfiguration. Yep. ⁓ and then the third actually is the crucifixion, and it's the Roman soldier.

Allen Smith: And the first one was his baptism, where the voice from heaven says, This is my son. The second was the transfiguration. Yep. ⁓ and then the third actually is the crucifixion. And it's the Roman soldier who says, surely this man was the son of God. you know, it's ⁓ verse ⁓ chapter fifteen, verse thirty nine. When the centurion who was standing opposite him saw the way he breathed his last, he said, Truly this man was.

Jeramie: Who says, ⁓ surely this man was the son of God. you know, it's ⁓ verse ⁓ chapter fifteen, verse twenty-nine. When the centurion who was standing opposite him saw the way he breathed his last, he said, Truly this man was the son of God. And so isn't it interesting that that the that the book begins, has a middle at the turning point of the book around chapter eight and nine, and then the ending is this public declaration.

Allen Smith: The Son of God. And so isn't it interesting that that the that the book begins, has a middle at the turning point of the book around chapter eight and nine, and then the ending is this public declaration, but it finally climaxes at the cross. That you can't understand the son of God without the cross. And by the way, ⁓ we did have someone correctly identify the third one. We did. Yes. He hit it pretty, pretty quickly after. Yeah, that's right. Joe.

Jeramie: But it finally climaxes at the cross. That you can't understand the Son of God without the cross. And by the way, ⁓ we did have someone correctly identify the third one. We did. Yes. He hit it pretty, pretty quickly after. Yeah, that's right. Joe Blackburn. Joe Blackburn. Congratulations, brother. Yep. Lunch with me and Alan. Mm-hmm. Sounds like a grand time. You can decide whether or not that's good for your bag.

Allen Smith: Blackburn. Joe Blackburn. Congratulations, brother. Yep. Lunch with me and Alan. Mm-hmm. Sounds like a grand time. You can decide whether or not that's good for your bad thing. We love Joe. We do love Joe. He's great. Good job. Everyone out there who's listening to this, like just totally, you know, when you see Joe, be like, Great job, Joe. Yeah. And then but don't tell him why. Yeah. Just be like, congratulations. And then he'll be like, Why is everyone saying this? That's good. Hey, quick.

Jeramie: It's true. We love Joe. We do love Joe. He's great. Good job. Everyone out there who's listening to this, like, just totally, you know, when you see Joe, be like, Great job, Joe. Yeah. And then but don't tell him why. Yeah. Just be like, congratulations. Yeah. And then he'll be like, Why is everyone saying this? That's good. Hey, quick. So what's interesting, when when Christ dies, at verse thirty-four, and at the ninth hour, Jesus cried with a loud voice.

Allen Smith: So what's interesting when when Christ dies, at verse thirty-four, and at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, Eloy, Eloy, Lema Sabotini, which means my God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Which is a quote from Psalm twenty two, verse one other David psalm when David was on the run and suffering and hurting. Yep, that's exactly right. ⁓ what does it mean? ⁓ this is ⁓ often been called the cry of dereliction.

Jeramie: Eloy, Eloi, Lema Sabactini, which means my God, my God, why have you forsaken me? Which is a quote from Psalm 22, verse 1. Another David Psalm when David was on the run and suffering and hurting. Yep, that's exactly right. ⁓ what does it mean? ⁓ this is ⁓ often been called the cry of dereliction. ⁓ what does it mean that Christ was forsaken? Did God stop did God the Father stop loving the Son? Was there a disruption in the Trinity?

Psalms 22:1

Allen Smith: Mm-hmm. ⁓ what does it mean that Christ was forsaken? Did God stop did God the Father stop loving the Son? Was there a disruption in the Trinity? What what does it mean that Jesus cried out that he's forsaken by God? Mm-hmm. Great question. ⁓ I I mean I mean, let's be clear what it doesn't mean. It doesn't mean that there was a disruption within God, that that for some moment there the God the Father

Jeramie: What what does it mean that Jesus cried out he that he's forsaken by God? Mm-hmm. Great question. ⁓ I I mean I mean, let's be clear what it doesn't mean. It doesn't mean that there was a disruption within God, that that for some moment there the God the Father sort of you know, abandoned or disconnected from God the Son or something like that. I mean, there's only one God. God is always God.

Allen Smith: sort of you know abandoned or disconnected from God the Son or something like that. I mean there's only one God. God is always God. Mm-hmm. ⁓ but but I do think it speaks to his humanness. Yeah. And the fact that he's quoting David's psalm shows that he's fulfilling he's this is the ultimate fulfillment of the suffering of Christ. We've talked about David is a type of Christ. Yeah.

Jeramie: But but I do think it speaks to his humanness. Yeah. And the fact that he's quoting David's psalm shows that he's fulfilling he's this is the ultimate fulfillment of the suffering of Christ. We've talked about David as a type of Christ. Yeah. And so he's the suffering king. And so Jesus taking up this psalm now shows that he is now fulfilling this in its ultimate moment. So it's it's a cry of his humanness, it's a cry of ⁓ fulfillment.

Allen Smith: And so he's the suffering king. And so Jesus taking up this psalm now shows that he is now fulfilling this in in its ultimate moment. So it's it's a cry of his humanness, it's a cry of ⁓ fulfillment. ⁓ but it doesn't mean that, you know, we often say, like in that moment, God the Father turned his back on God the Son. And I understand this is kind of a poetic way of describing it, but I think we have to be really careful there, lest we start thinking, you know, you know, taking that kind of language to

Jeramie: ⁓ but it doesn't mean that, you know, we often say like in that moment, God the Father turned his back on God the Son. And I understand this is kind of a poetic way of describing it, but I think we have to be really careful there lest we start thinking, you know, you know, taking that kind of language to and pressing it too far to say like, ⁓ the father and the son like were disconnected at that point. Yep. Yeah. They were out of step with one another or not in one will. Yeah.

Allen Smith: and pressing it too far to say like, ⁓ the father and the son like were disconnected at that point. Yep. Yeah. They were out of step with one another or not in one will. Yeah. Yeah. You know, there is in because it it would violate the most fundamental teaching about God. Hero Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. The shirt is always that's right. God is always one.

Jeramie: Yeah, you know, there is in because it it would violate the most fundamental teaching about God. Hero Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. The short is always Deuteronomy six, yeah. That's right. God is always one. That's right. There's never three gods, there's never two gods. There's never one God who has a break in himself. Yeah. God is always one. Yeah, that's good. And they're always working together for the same purposes. Always. But you know, Jesus is both what makes it complex is Jesus is fully God and fully man. Yeah.

Allen Smith: That's right. There's never three gods, there's never two gods, there's never one God who has a break in himself. Yeah. God is always one. Yeah, that's good. And they're always working together for the same purposes. Always. But you know, Jesus is both what makes it complex is Jesus is fully God and fully man. Yeah. And so sometimes the New Testament will be talking about Jesus from one of those angles or the other. Yeah.

Jeramie: And so sometimes the New Testament will be talking about Jesus from one of those angles or the other. Yeah. ⁓ it's not like every time it references Jesus, it's always talking about him in the fullness of everything that he is and does. That's right. It'll often be looking at one. It's kind of like a diamond, you know? You look at a facet, you look at an angle. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good analogy. Yeah. Thanks for that explanation. Cause I just I think I hear a lot of Christians struggle to understand that. And it's a little bit tricky in in a way. So yeah, that's good. Well

Allen Smith: ⁓ it's not like every time it references Jesus, it's always talking about him in the fullness of everything that he is and does. That's it'll often be looking at one it's kind of like a diamond, you know. You look at a facet, you look at an angle. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good analogy. Yeah, thanks for that explanation. Cause I just I think I hear a lot of Christians struggle to understand that. And it's a little bit tricky in in a way. So yeah, that's good. Well, again, yeah, he he is crucified there and we see that, and then he's pronounced publicly. ⁓ and then of course

Jeramie: Again, yeah, he he is crucified there, and we see that, and then he's pronounced publicly. ⁓ and then of course the the event which which changed human history, which is his resurrection. Yeah. ⁓ you know, it says that he you seek Jesus of Nazareth who was crucified, he has risen, he is not here. See the place where they laid him, right? And so ⁓ of course, he rose from the dead and he's sitting. Interestingly, a lot of you will be reading this and you'll see in your Bibles there'll be some kind of line or mark that will say

Allen Smith: the event which which changed human history, which is his resurrection. Yeah. ⁓ you know, it says that he you seek Jesus of Nazareth who was crucified. He has risen. He is not here. See the place where they laid him. Right. And so ⁓ of course he rose from the dead and he's sitting interestingly a lot of you will be reading this and you'll see in your Bibles there'll be some kind of line or mark that will say that it'll have a longer ending of the gospel of Mark. Yeah.

Jeramie: that it'll have a longer ending of the gospel of Mark. Yeah. So it after verse eight, there's this longer ending. And people wonder, you know, what what is this? Yeah. And and this gets at what one of the ⁓ the disciplines of biblical studies called textual criticism. In other words, you know, we don't have the actual document that Mark with his own hand and pen

Allen Smith: So it after verse eight, there's this longer ending, and people wonder, you know, what what is this? Yeah. And and this gets at what one of the ⁓ the disciplines of biblical studies called textual criticism. In other words, you know, we don't have the actual document that Mark with his own hand and pen wrote. That's right. We have copies of copies of copies. ⁓ and ⁓ which which sounds like ⁓ no, but actually

Jeramie: wrote. That's right. We have copies of copies of copies. and ⁓ w which sounds like, ⁓ no, but actually there's this whole science that has come about to study all the documents we have. I mean of the New Testament, there's like I think tw over twenty-four thousand copies and documents, ⁓ with more being found all the time. So so there's this massive body of ⁓ historical attestation. And what's amazing is all of the agreement in it. ⁓

Allen Smith: There's this whole science that has come about to study all the documents we have. I mean, of the New Testament, there's like I think tw over twenty-four thousand copies and documents, ⁓ with more being found all the time. So so there's this massive body of ⁓ historical attestation. And what's amazing is all of the agreement in it. ⁓ so but it also enables scholars to

Jeramie: So but it also enables scholars to to determine what is most likely the original manuscript, which ⁓ you know, now they estimate they can do with like ninety-eight percent certainty. Yeah. ⁓ but i the point is, so all that to say, the longer ending doesn't in doesn't appear in the earliest manuscripts or the best manuscripts, leading scholars to think that it actually wasn't part of what Mark originally wrote. Yep.

Allen Smith: To determine what is most likely the original manuscript, which ⁓ you know, now they estimate they can do with like 98% certainty. Yeah. ⁓ but i the point is, so all that to say, the longer ending doesn't in doesn't appear in the earliest manuscripts or the best manuscripts, leading scholars to think that it actually wasn't part of what Mark originally wrote. Yep. ⁓ that and ⁓ in this another couple other key texts like that in the New Testament. ⁓ the the story of in John eight of the stoning of the woman, yep. ⁓ also is in this kind of category. So so it's included here for tradition's sake, ⁓ but but realize. So when I've preached Mark, I Yeah, did you preach it? Nope. Okay. I stopped at verse eight. Yeah. Because I only preach what's God's word. I'm not convinced this was in the original manuscript, nor do the scholars who study these things. So yeah. And it's important to say that.

Jeramie: ⁓ that and ⁓ in this another couple other key texts like that in the New Testament. ⁓ the the story of in John eight of the stoning of the woman, yep. ⁓ also is in this kind of category. So so it's included here for tradition's sake, ⁓ but but realize. So when I've preached Mark, I Yeah, did you preach it? Nope. Okay. I stopped at verse eight. Yeah. Because I only preach what's God's word. I'm not convinced this was in the original manuscript, nor do the scholars who study these things. So yeah. And it's important to say that.

Allen Smith: The long ending doesn't change our theology at all. No. Because the rest of what is attested in here is attested in the other gospels and the other witnesses. So in fact, this if you take the long ending, there's some theological effects. You shall drink poison. Yeah, that's right. You know, and ⁓ you know, you'll handle snakes and scorpions. I mean it's it's this longer ending that's caused some of those weird cults like do rattlesnake handling. I know, I know. It's crazy. Yeah, it is nuts. Yeah. ⁓ hey, if that interests you or if you just want to know more, a

Jeramie: The long ending doesn't change our theology at all. No. Because the rest of what is attested in here is attested in the other gospels and the other witnesses. So in fact, this if you take the long ending, there's some theological effects. You shall drink poison. Yeah, that's right. You know, and ⁓ you know, you'll handle snakes and scorpions. I mean, it's it's this longer ending that's caused some of those weird cults like do rattlesnake handling. I know, I know. It's crazy. Yeah, it is nuts. Yeah. ⁓ hey, if that interests you or if you just want to know more, a

Allen Smith: A great resource website is the Text and Canon Institute. I don't know if you've used it at all, but they have great stuff on the history, the canonization of the Bible, just really good articles. What does canonization mean? Like people shooting guns at it? That's a I wish. That sounds way cooler. Yeah. No. Canonization is the process of ⁓ of of how the Bible came to be recognized as the Bible. Yeah.

Jeramie: A great resource website is the Text and Canon Institute. I don't know if you've used it at all, but they have great stuff on the history, the canonization of the Bible, just really good articles. What does canonization mean? Like people shooting guns at it? That's a I wish. That sounds way cooler. Yeah. No canonization is the process of ⁓ of of how the Bible came to be recognized as the Bible. Yeah.

Allen Smith: Why these books, how did it how did it happen? So that process is called canonization. Yeah. That's right. Yeah, because the the Bible that we have is called the canon, not in the sense of a big tube that shoots cannonballs, but in the sense of ⁓ something that's canonical or that is the established ⁓ body of literature. I don't know, man. Ephesians talks about the the word being the sword of the spirit. Mm-hmm. And so it does kind of have some like

Jeramie: Why these books, how did it how did it happen? So that process is called canonization. Yeah. That's right. Yeah, because the the Bible that we have is called the canon, not in the sense of a big tube that shoots cannonballs, but in the sense of ⁓ something that's canonical or that is the established ⁓ body of literature. I don't know, man. Ephesians talks about the the word being the sword of the spirit. Mm-hmm. And so it does kind of have some like canonization of Canon. Yeah. Canon sword. Canon sword attacking Tomahawk missile. Tomahawk missile. Yes. That's like what the Bible. You know, I got Hey, hey, we just got done with reading Samuel. I mean, there's plenty of warfare. All of David's mighty men and their exploits. Yeah. All right, Galatians. Yep. Bring it in home Galatians. Yeah, bring it home with Galatians. Paul is beaten a drum. ⁓ yeah. You know.

Allen Smith: Canonization of Canon? Yeah. Canon sword. Canon sword attacking Tomahawk missile. Tomahawk missile. Yeah. That's like what the Bible. You know, I can't. Hey, we just got done with reading Samuel. I mean, there's plenty of warfare. All of David's mighty men and their exploits. Yeah. All right, Galatians. Yep. Bring it in home with Galatians. Yeah, bringing it home with Galatians. Paul is beaten a drum. ⁓ yeah. You know. Hey, ⁓ anyone who wants to seek to adhere to obey the law, you must do it all. because the the the spirit came in this age to free us ⁓ from the the curse of the law, the curse of sin, which exposed our transgression, because justification, salvation is by faith and is not by the law. So he's he and he uses a couple illustrations ⁓ to make this point. That's right. And the ⁓ the law, I mean, Paul just

Jeramie: Hey, ⁓ anyone who wants to seek to adhere to obey the law, you must do it all. because the the the spirit came in this age to free us ⁓ from the the curse of the law, the curse of sin, which exposed our transgression, because justification, salvation is by faith and is not by the law. So he's he and he uses a couple illustrations ⁓ to make this point. That's right. And the ⁓ the law, I mean, Paul just

Allen Smith: th this thing is a tour de force. It's a devastating attack on anyone who thinks that the way to God is by keeping the Mosaic law and especially things like circumcision. ⁓ and and Paul just points out that the law can't save. Not because there was not because the law is bad, but because we're bad. Yeah. And our sin nature is unable to keep the law. Yeah. ⁓ and so it

Jeramie: th this thing is a tour de force. It's a devastating attack on anyone who thinks that the way to God is by keeping the Mosaic law and especially things like circumcision. ⁓ and and Paul just points out that the law can't save. Not because there was not because the law is bad, but because we're bad. Yeah. And our sin nature is unable to keep the law. Yeah. ⁓ and so it

Allen Smith: Ultimately what we're gonna need is a salvation, not by works, but by faith. And we're gonna need a transformation by the spirit. So what's great about the new covenant is that it's a salvation that comes as a gift by faith. And it's we're enable we're enabled to keep the law in a sense and live the way God wants us to, but not by us just trying to keep the rules, but by the spirit of God empowering us from within to be a different kind of person. So the great thing about the new covenant.

Jeramie: Ultimately what we're gonna need is a salvation, not by works, but by faith. And we're gonna need a transformation by the spirit. So what's great about the new covenant is that it's a salvation that comes as a gift by faith. And it's we're enable we're enabled to keep the law in a sense and live the way God wants us to, but not by us just trying to keep the rules, but by the spirit of God empowering us from within to be a different kind of person. So the great thing about the new covenant.

Allen Smith: You sometimes people think the new covenant, there are no like laws or rules or standards. There are. The difference is in the new covenant, the spirit within you is bearing the fruit of transformation versus just like, hey, here's the rules. Good luck with that. Yeah. You know, and the new covenant didn't g the old covenant didn't give the spirit to keep the law. Yeah. Yeah, that yeah, that's great. ⁓ I think it's it's interesting. You have Paul ⁓ talk about that ⁓ that the law was given as a guardian.

Jeramie: You sometimes people think the new covenant, there are no like laws or rules or standards. There are. The difference is in the new covenant, the spirit within you is bearing the fruit of transformation versus just like, hey, here's the rules. Good luck with that. Yeah. You know, and the new covenant didn't g the old covenant didn't give the spirit to keep the law. Yeah. Yeah, that yeah, that's great. ⁓ I think it's it's interesting. You have Paul ⁓ talk about that ⁓ that the law was given as a guardian.

Allen Smith: Mm-hmm. ⁓ chapter three. Yep. Chap chapter three. So the law's not bad, but the point of the law was to bring us to faith in Christ, and thus the law would show us that we actually need something more. Yep, that's right. And then the the in twenty eight, his point is hey, there's neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, no male and female, for you are one in Christ Jesus. Now he's obviously not erasing gender, right? He's not erasing ⁓ ethnic identity even.

Jeramie: Mm-hmm. ⁓ Chapter three. Yep. Chap chapter three. So the law's not bad, but the point of the law was to bring us to faith in Christ, and thus the law would show us that we actually need something more. Yep, that's right. And then the the in twenty eight, his point is hey, there's neither Jew nor Greek, slave nor free, no male and female, for you are one in Christ Jesus. Now he's obviously not erasing gender, right? He's not erasing ⁓ ethnic identity even.

Allen Smith: But he's what he's erasing is that there is some type of special favor amongst anyone that s would seek to say, Hey, I'm saved because I'm a Jew or I'm a Greek or this. It's erasing that and it's leveling the playing field because everyone is one in Christ. And that's what the spirit has brought in the new covenant. That's right. It's in Christ and with the spirit in us that that puts us into ⁓ the the new covenant. That the the spirit's placement in our hearts is

Jeramie: But he's what he's erasing is that there is some type of special favor amongst anyone that s would seek to say, Hey, I'm saved because I'm a Jew or I'm a Greek or this. It's erasing that and it's leveling the playing field because everyone is one in Christ. And that's what the spirit has brought in the new covenant. That's right. It's in Christ and with the spirit in us that that puts us into ⁓ the the new covenant. That the the spirit's placement in our hearts is

Allen Smith: is the sign of the new covenant. Which is by the way, w one of the reasons why ⁓ you know, one one of the debates ⁓ that you get in churches is baptism and and and it's one of the reasons why we only baptize people who, from what we can tell, really are converted. That's right. We don't baptize the children of people who are converted because the the mark of being in the new covenant is that you have the Holy Spirit. That's right. And if you don't have the Holy Spirit, you're not in the new covenant. So

Jeramie: is the sign of the new covenant. Which is by the way, w one of the reasons why ⁓ you know, one one of the debates ⁓ that you get in churches is baptism and and and it's one of the reasons why we only baptize people who, from what we can tell, really are converted. That's right. We don't baptize the children of people who are converted because the the mark of being in the new covenant is that you have the Holy Spirit. That's right. And if you don't have the Holy Spirit, you're not in the new covenant. So

Allen Smith: ⁓ we, you know, we hold off on baptism, even on kids sometimes, because you you don't know sometimes with kids. Are they are they really saved or are they just like church? Like my kids were really church. They grew up in a pastor's house. They could give all the right answers. So you have to wait to see, is the fruit of the spirit really there? Are they really converted? Yeah. ⁓ yeah, that's a great point. And actually, speaking of one of your kids, Jack gave his testimony. He was talking about his testimony and she was just sharing about he's Yeah, I recognize I didn't actually have Christ until I think he said he was like.

Jeramie: ⁓ we, you know, we hold off on baptism, even on kids sometimes, because you you don't know sometimes with kids. Are they are they really saved or are they just like church? Like my kids were really church. They grew up in a pastor's house. They could give all the right answers. So you have to wait to see, is the fruit of the spirit really there? Are they really converted? Yeah. ⁓ yeah, that's a great point. And actually, speaking of one of your kids, Jack gave his testimony. He was talking about his testimony and she was just sharing about he's Yeah, I recognize I didn't actually have Christ until I think he said he was like.

Allen Smith: Ten or something. Yeah. Tell me he's a little older. Yeah, a little bit older. Which which is so cool though. It's just evidence of there's a new birth that happens. And the evidence actually of a new birth is what we see with the fruit of the spirit in chapter five. Yeah. Famous passage. Yep. Famous passage. Right. He he's actually key he'll contrast what it means to walk by the spirit versus satisfying the desires of the flesh. He'll name the vices of the.

Jeramie: Ten or something. Yeah. Tell me he's a little older. Yeah, a little bit older. Which which is so cool though. It's just evidence of there's a new birth that happens. And the evidence actually of a new birth is what we see with the fruit of the spirit in chapter five. Yeah. Famous passage. Yep. Famous passage. Right. He he's actually key he'll contrast what it means to walk by the spirit versus satisfying the desires of the flesh. He'll name the vices of the.

Allen Smith: First, which is sexual morality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, and mity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, and orgies. But here he contrasts with the fruit of the spirit, which is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. So the first list is what we do naturally as sinful human beings, which is why just giving us the law is not gonna help us because this is what comes out of us naturally.

Jeramie: First, which is sexual morality, impurity, sensuality, idolatry, sorcery, and mity, strife, jealousy, fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, and orgies. But here he contrasts with the fruit of the spirit, which is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, and self-control. So the first list is what we do naturally as sinful human beings, which is why just giving us the law is not gonna help us because this is what comes out of us naturally.

Allen Smith: ⁓ with ⁓ and so we we need more than just the law we need the spirit to change us from the inside and make us a new person. ⁓ I I love chapter six verse fifteen where he says for both circumcision and uncircumcision mean nothing. What matters instead is a new creation. See that that's what it means to be a Christian in a new in in the new covenant is you have to have become a new creation. Yeah. A can conversion is not me praying the sinner's prayer.

Jeramie: ⁓ with ⁓ and so we we need more than just the law we need the spirit to change us from the inside and make us a new person. ⁓ I I love chapter six verse fifteen where he says for both circumcision and uncircumcision mean nothing. What matters instead is a new creation. See that that's what it means to be a Christian in a new in in the new covenant is you have to have become a new creation. Yeah. A can conversion is not me praying the sinner's prayer.

Allen Smith: That's right. Can that can be a thing I do in my conversion, but conversion is the power of God giving me a new spirit. ⁓ or to use go back to Psalm 115. God giving me eyes to see, ears to hear, a heart to believe. I don't do that to myself. That's right. God does that. And then through that, I now have faith, and the spirit indwelling in me empowers me to live the Christian life. Yeah. Yeah, that's really great. for for yeah, hitting on that point a little bit.

Jeramie: That's right. Can that can be a thing I do in my conversion, but conversion is the power of God giving me a new spirit. ⁓ or to use go back to Psalm 115. God giving me eyes to see, ears to hear, a heart to believe. I don't do that to myself. That's right. God does that. And then through that I now have faith, and the spirit indwelling in me empowers me to live the Christian life. Yeah. Yeah, that's really great. ⁓ for for yeah, hitting on that point a little bit.

Allen Smith: Back in earlier in chapter five, he's arguing, he says, Hey, for in Christ Jesus, neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only faith working through love. Yeah. So you see the evidence of a of a of a new creation, Second Corinthians five, seventeen. ⁓ for if anyone is in Christ, he's a new creation. The evidence of conversion, the evidence of a spirit-filled believer is all of this. Love, joy, peace, peace, you know, the fruit that we're seeing. That's evidence of what makes you a Christian. That's how we affirm one another.

Jeramie: Back in earlier in chapter five, he's arguing, he says, Hey, for in Christ Jesus, neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything, but only faith working through love. Yeah. So you see the evidence of a of a of a new creation, Second Corinthians five, seventeen. ⁓ for if anyone is in Christ, he's a new creation. The evidence of conversion, the evidence of a spirit-filled believer is all of this. Love, joy, peace, peace, you know, the fruit that we're seeing. That's evidence of what makes you a Christian. That's how we affirm one another.

Allen Smith: And that's the evidence. Well, it's the fruit. That's right. You know, the root is the spirit's work and the gospel. It's and the fruit is these these changes in our lives. But but if you don't have that root, which is God's work through the gospel and his spirit to give us a new life, to make us a new creation, there won't be this new fruit ⁓ that that comes out of that. And so yeah, Galatians,

Jeramie: And that's the evidence. Well, it's the fruit. That's right. You know, the root is the spirit's work and the gospel. It's and the fruit is these these changes in our lives. But but if you don't have that root, which is God's work through the gospel and his spirit to give us a new life, to make us a new creation, there won't be this new fruit ⁓ that that comes out of that. And so yeah, Galatians,

Allen Smith: Galatians is is just showing us how much we need Jesus, how much we need the Holy Spirit, and how much we need the new covenant, which the old covenant under Moses was failed, not again, not because it was evil, but because we in our sin could not keep the law. Yeah, that's great. One of my favorite psalms or or hymns and songs is All My Boast is in Jesus. Mm-hmm. All my hobas is love, and you know, that's coming out of Galatians six fourteen.

Jeramie: Galatians is is just showing us how much we need Jesus, how much we need the Holy Spirit, and how much we need the new covenant, which the old covenant under Moses was failed, not again, not because it was evil, but because we in our sin could not keep the law. Yeah, that's great. One of my favorite psalms or or hymns and songs is All My Boast is in Jesus. Mm-hmm. All my hobas is love, and you know, that's coming out of Galatians six fourteen.

Allen Smith: But far be it for me to boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by which the world has been crucified to me and I to the world. You know, and the lyrics go, All my boast is in Jesus, all my hope is his love. ⁓ it's just so great. It's like what is what is the Christians boast? The cross of Christ that's right freed me from my sin, gave me new life, and is working in me to look more like Jesus. That's what my boast is. The and we d obviously just talked about the end of Mark sixteen, the cross, because that's what the moment that everything changed.

Jeramie: But far be it for me to boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ, by which the world has been crucified to me and I to the world. You know, and the lyrics go, All my boast is in Jesus, all my hope is his love. ⁓ it's just so great. It's like what is what is the Christians boast? The cross of Christ that's right freed me from my sin, gave me new life, and is working in me to look more like Jesus. That's what my boast is. The and we d obviously just talked about the end of Mark sixteen, the cross, because that's what the moment that everything changed.

Allen Smith: Yeah. And they were wanting and these false teachers in Galatia are wanting them to boast in circumcision or boast in you know, keep keeping rules. And and we love rules because then we can check the rules off. That's right. And then we can boast in them. That's right. But the Christian says ⁓ the only reason I have any hope is because what Christ did for me. Yeah. ⁓ I I can't remember who said this, but they said the only thing that you brought to your salvation was the sin that made it necessary. Mm-hmm. That's right.

Jeramie: Yeah. And they were wanting and these false teachers in Galatia are wanting them to boast in circumcision or boast in you know, keep keeping rules. And and we love rules because then we can check the rules off. That's right. And then we can boast in them. That's right. But the Christian says ⁓ the only reason I have any hope is because what Christ did for me. Yeah. ⁓ I I can't remember who said this, but they said the only thing that you brought to your salvation was the sin that made it necessary. Mm-hmm. That's right.

Allen Smith: Yeah, it's just good problem. All we bring is our need. All we bring is our is the problem. Yeah. We bring the problem statement. Problem statement. Jesus brings the solution. Mm-hmm. That's the gospel. That's the gospel. Jesus is the solution. Right. one last maybe a little reason touch point as I just was reading this and praying about and reflecting was Galatians six two infamously bear one another's burdens and so so fulfill the law of Christ. This is why I love the local church so much. Yeah. Cause you cannot do this alone. You need the local church and

Jeramie: Yeah, it's just good problem. All we bring is our need. All we bring is our is the problem. Yeah. We bring the problem statement. Problem statement. Jesus brings the solution. Mm-hmm. That's the gospel. That's the gospel. Jesus is the solution. Right. one last maybe a little reason touch point as I just was reading this and praying about and reflecting was Galatians six two infamously bear one another's burdens and so so fulfill the law of Christ. This is why I love the local church so much. Yeah. Cause you cannot do this alone. You need the local church and

Allen Smith: It ⁓ the local churches where you can bear one another's burdens. Cause man, I got too much to carry on my own. Mm-hmm. Just think about our brother who's now, you know, Teddy. Yep. Just man, to see the church come through and b bear that burden with him, man, is so encouraging. And that's what the body does. Even think about the fruit of the spirit, their communal attributes. That's great. Love.

Jeramie: It ⁓ the local churches where you can bear one another's burdens. Cause man, I got too much to carry on my own. Mm-hmm. Just think about our brother who's now, you know, Teddy. Yep. Just man, to see the church come through and bear that burden with him, man, is so encouraging. And that's what the body does. Even think about the fruit of the spirit. They're communal attributes. That's great. Love. You don't just do this me, my Bible by myself. Yeah, that's great. It's in a church.

Allen Smith: You don't just do this me, my Bible by myself. Yeah, that's great. It's in a church. Mm-hmm. It's with the other Christians. ⁓ you know, peace has to do with not just my internal feeling of contentment, but peace with brothers and sisters. Yeah. I mean, you can't like patience involves people, man. Like people are what test your patience. Yep.

Jeramie: Mm-hmm. It's with the other Christians. ⁓ you know, peace has to do with not just my internal feeling of contentment, but peace with brothers and sisters. Yeah. I mean, you can't like patience involves people, man. Like people are what test your patience. Yeah. Kindness is about other people. So the the vision here is of a community of brothers and sisters who in whom are they're all one in Christ, whether Jew or Greek, slave or free, male or female. Yeah.

Allen Smith: Kindness is about other people. So the the vision here is of a community of brothers and sisters who in whom are they're all one in Christ, whether Jew or Greek, slave or free, male or female. Yeah. And ⁓ all who have the spirit in them crying Abba Father, who are living out the fruit of the spirit toward one another. Yeah, that's great. And so it's it really church membership is the the framework and the context in which all of these verses are carried out. Yeah, that's great. Well, that's encouraging because I think

Jeramie: And ⁓ all who have the spirit in them crying Abba Father, who are living out the fruit of the spirit toward one another. Yeah, that's great. And so it's it really church membership is the the framework and the context in which all of these verses are carried out. Yeah, that's great. Well, that's encouraging because I think our church does that really well. And I love this church having been here almost ⁓ six months now, it's been such an encouragement. I've seen this and I've seen obedience to the law of Christ.

Allen Smith: Our church does that really well. And I love this church having been here almost ⁓ six months now, it's been such an encouragement. I've seen this and I've seen obedience to the law of Christ, which is which is really encouraging. Any concluding comments, Jeremy? I'm so thankful for the new covenant. I'm so thankful for, you know, just the freedom we have ⁓ in the spirit. ⁓ not freedom from sin, but

Jeramie: Which is which is really encouraging. Any concluding comments, Jeremy? I'm so thankful for the new covenant. I'm so thankful for, you know, just the freedom we have ⁓ in the spirit. ⁓ not freedom from sin but ⁓ to sin, but freedom to serve, freedom to love, ⁓ and the freedom from thinking that I have to hit a benchmark in order to be accepted by God. Yeah. Yeah.

Allen Smith: ⁓ to sin, but freedom to serve, freedom to love, ⁓ and the freedom from thinking that I have to hit a benchmark in order to be accepted by God. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that's great. Well, good job reading, finishing month five. we're gonna press into month six. You're almost halfway. Good job. Amazing. Great job. ⁓ this has been another episode of the SCC Saver. We're savoring God through everybody of scripture. Until next time, friends.

Jeramie: Yeah, that's great. Well, good job reading. Finishing month five. we're gonna press into month six. You're almost halfway. Good job. Amazing. Great job. this has been another episode of the SCC Saver, where we're savoring God through every body of scripture. Till next time, friends.