Re_boot: Re_new with Pastor Clayton Tyner

Welcome to the MetaCurch Podcast.

My name's Clayton.

I'm the pastor here at MetaChurch.

And my hope is that today's podcast finds you at the perfect time in your life that God uses it to inspire and enlighten you.

I hope that you enjoy today's message.

All right, MetaCurch, it is so good to see you guys.

I want to thank you for joining us today.

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So glad that you guys have joined us.

If you're new with us, my name is Clayton.

I'm the lead pastor here at MetaCurch.

And we are in our fourth week of our series that we're calling Reboot.

Now, I want to jump right into scripture today.

We're going to spend time with four verses in the Jewish scriptures.

This is what we often call the Old Testament, the book of Isaiah.

It says this this is what the Lord says.

Who makes a way in the sea and a path through raging water?

Who brings out the chariot and horse, the army and the mighty one together?

They lie down, they do not rise again, they are extinguished, put out like a wick.

Do not remember the past events.

Pay no attention to the things of old.

Look, I am about to do something new.

Even now it is coming.

Do you not see it?

Would you guys pray with me?

Father, we are living in crazy times.

The world feels more and more chaotic as the days go by.

But we come here trusting that you are good.

Trusting that you are indeed always working and that you are wanting to do something new in our lives.

God, we want to live a life of significance and a life of purpose.

We want to spend our time here on earth in a way that matters to you and matters to people who are living without hope.

And so, God, as we come together today, I pray that we would open our minds, we would open our hearts, we would let you do exactly what you want to do today.

We pray all of these things in Jesus' name.

And everyone who is ready for something new say, Amen.

Amen.

We are in the fourth week of this series, and the series is predicated on a simple idea that we just lived through a year like none other, and we've moved into a new year that has all its own new tension and frustration, pain and suffering.

And if there was a way for us to pursue a life of purpose, to live a life of significance, to have a grander vision for why we're here on earth that allowed us to rise above all of the things going on around us, that we would be crazy not to pursue that life.

It's almost like after everything we went through, we wish that we could reboot our lives the same way that when our phones are acting up, we can just turn them off and turn them back on, and everything somehow lines back up.

We would love that.

We would love that for our world, and we would love that for ourselves.

Today I want to talk about a new big idea.

That is to reboot, we must renew.

We must renew.

The scripture says that God is doing something new.

The song that we sing says God is making all things new.

To reboot, to live this life that, regardless of life's circumstances, can still pursue significance and affect change around us, we must renew.

And so let's work to define what we mean by that.

Today we're using this word in a specific way.

To renew is to resume with resolve.

Okay?

To reboot is to uh to renew is to resume with resolve.

What I mean by this is it's like when you go on a diet and you do pretty well, but then what normally interrupts people is the holidays.

The holidays come, it's like you can't pass up Thanksgiving meal, and by that point you've kind of messed up, and you've got like three or four, you've got the work Thanksgiving party, friends giving, you know, then you gotta do it with the family.

And by that time, it's basically Christmas time, so you might as well, you know, just wait, hold off.

We hit the new year and we've had an interruption, an interruption to our diet.

And so to renew is to resume our diet with the resolve that we're going to stick with it, to resume with resolve.

I've seen people who had trouble in dating relationships, so they swear off dating for a season.

I take a vow, I will not date for six months.

And it never fails.

As soon as you make a vow like that, you find someone.

They're kind of fine, you're kind of lonely.

You know what I'm saying?

Get together.

Big mistake, you were gonna take some time, work on yourself, maybe hit some counseling, work on this, you and God, you know.

But you jump back into something, it's a disaster, now it's time to renew your commitment, to resume with a sense of resolve.

Renewal is how we navigate our way out of interruptions.

And it doesn't always mean that the interruption is gone.

2020 was a monumental interruption.

It interrupted not just our lives on an individual level, not just our state, not just our country, it interrupted the entire world.

Think about the things that you missed out on in the last year.

Birthday parties and other celebrations, relationships, vacations, weddings, school attendance, major industries closing down, even here in our movement, we weren't able to meet in person for over eight months.

A massive, massive interruption.

And so, how do we renew?

How do we resume our path of purpose?

How do we get back to living the life that we were called to live?

How do we resume with resolve?

When we've spent the last 12 months just trying to survive, self-protecting, self-isolating, how do we get back to truly living?

To reboot, we must renew.

And I think in these four verses in Isaiah, we're given a great template of how we can do this exact thing.

Now, to set up a little bit of context, we have some help.

If you've been here in this series, in week one, we taught about revision, and we looked at a different prophet named Jeremiah.

And God was speaking through Jeremiah to Israel at a very unique time.

They had just been taken over by Babylon, and the Babylonians had taken a percentage of the population and put them in captivity.

Jeremiah wrote to those who were living in exile.

He let them know to not lose hope and to not lose heart, but he also let them know that they were gonna be in captivity for 70 years.

Jeremiah wrote at the beginning of their Babylonian exile.

Today we're looking at another prophet named Isaiah, and he's writing to them at the end.

He is preparing them for renewal after a massive 70-year interruption.

What will it look like for them to resume with resolve?

Let's start working our way through these scriptures.

In Isaiah chapter 43, verse 16, it says, This is what the Lord says, and so from this point on, this is God talking about himself, who makes a way in the sea and a path through raging water.

Isaiah 43:16

And it's very obvious what God is referencing here.

He's bringing these Israelites who are in Babylonian captivity back to a place in their history at a moment that is Israel's signature story.

They were captives generations before, centuries before, but not to Babylon, to Egypt.

And maybe you know the story how God sent a man named Moses, and through Moses he sent 10 different plagues, and the plagues came, and so the Pharaoh, the king of Egypt, decided to let the Israelites go.

It's quite the miracle.

They were slaves in Egypt.

A million plus people, an entire nation of free workforce.

Not only was he sending that workforce away by doing that, the king of Egypt would bankrupt Egypt's economy.

It was a huge decision.

It was a miracle.

But the miracle was only beginning.

You see, Pharaoh quickly changed his mind.

He's like, listen, I can put up with some plagues.

I can't lose a million people who work for free.

So he sent his army.

They pinned Israel down right on the Red Sea, a large, impassable body of water.

It was there that God displayed his mercy and his might.

Scripture says that he parted the waters.

Israel walked through on dry ground.

God held back the Egyptian army until all of Israel was secure on the other side, and then he let them pursue.

And as they pursued, once all of Egypt was in between the walls of water, the water closed in on them.

The Egyptian army was defeated.

God's mercy for his people was displayed as well as his might against those who dare to stand in his path.

And so God's bringing them back to this moment.

This part of their past that is somewhat of a reflection of where they're living today.

You're crazy if you think that every day for 70 years these Israelites have not thought about Egypt.

Desperate to get out of captivity, desperate to leave exile, hoping that maybe, just maybe, God would repeat what he had done for the Israelites centuries before.

He continues in verse 17 to tell the story.

We already read verse 16, this is what the Lord says, who makes a way in the sea and a path through raging water, who brings out the chariot and horse, the army and the mighty one together.

They lie down, they do not rise again, they are extinguished, put out like a wick.

In this first step to renewal, God points the current generation of Israelites back to the past.

When their ancestors were also in exile.

What a powerful memory.

It's very interesting to me that God does not start by addressing where they are currently or by pointing to the future of where they're headed.

He starts by speaking to them about their past.

I think for most people, the past is a place of escape.

It's somewhere that we can go and maybe think through happier times, relive some great memories, some successes.

For others, it's a place where we escape and torture ourselves, agonizing over missed opportunities and misplaced decisions.

Man, if I could have just done this differently, or if I would have been there at the right time, or if I would have just had the courage to step in or stand up or make the move or make the investment.

It's like every time Tesla's shares go up a little bit more, it's like, why didn't I put 500 bucks on there?

We can just agonize ourselves in the past, but we don't lend much power to it.

We see the past as something that is static.

It's set in stone, it's the life that we've already lived.

And so while it's a nice place for escape, it doesn't seem to hold much bearing on who we are or who we are becoming.

We spend a lot of time thinking about our present.

And it's obvious, but it's an important point that the present is the only place you're living.

We all live in the present, and so we spend a lot of time thinking about all that we're navigating through, and the things we're happy about, sad about, the things we wish were different.

We spend a lot of time thinking about our future.

Where we hope things will head, who we want to be someday, the situations we would like to find ourselves in.

The present and the future feel very powerful because the future has not yet happened, and in the present, we actually have some semblance of control.

We know in our minds that our present and our future are inherently tied together.

At some level, we understand that what I do today affects who I become tomorrow.

What I do today affects how I live in my future.

The past is set in stone, immovable.

It is what it is, or at least that's how we tend to view it.

And yet there's something profound about God beginning this process of renewing, helping them to resume with resolve, to get out of this exile.

He starts in their past, and maybe it shows us that our past is more powerful than we think it is.

Now, this becomes very confusing very quickly in the next verse because God points them at their past, the glory of it, an anchor for their hope.

Do you guys remember?

Remember the stories that you were told, handed down generation to generation.

There was no way out of Egypt, and where there was no way, God made a way.

And then in verse 18, God continues do not remember the past.

Do not remember the past.

Pay no attention to the things of old.

This is very confusing.

To summarize, God was like, hey, you guys remember the past?

And everyone was like, yeah, totally.

We totally remember.

And then he was like, no, stop remembering.

What?

Like, don't remember the thing you literally just reminded us of?

That's almost impossible.

Why are you bringing this up to then just tell us to no longer remember it?

It's very confusing.

And why would God not want them to have this great moment of hope in their minds?

We can say with quite a bit of confidence that God does not actually want them to wipe the exodus from Egypt from their memory.

As a matter of fact, we can just look in scripture and over and over again in the Jewish scriptures, God tells them, do not forget Egypt.

Tell your kids about it.

Make sure they tell their kids about it.

Remember all the power that I showed, how I rescued you.

So how do we synthesize those things?

Never quit repeating this story.

And now and Isaiah is saying, to forget about it.

You know, sometimes we approach scripture and we don't allow it.

The same nuance in rhetoric that we use in our everyday life.

Sometimes we say forget about things, not to actually forget about them, but to use them as a point of contrast to something that's coming up better in our future.

As a matter of fact, I thought about naming this whole sermon, Forget About It, just so I could do the one impersonation that I can do in life, which is someone from New York saying, forget about it.

That's all I've got.

I can't do Australian, I can't really do English, I can say, forget about it.

I wanted to say it 30 times and I didn't, so you're welcome.

God says, forget.

Forget the old things, forget the past.

We do this all the time to help you understand how God is using this as a rhetorical uh device.

It's like um, it's like when you go through a really bad breakup, you know, and they were the one for you.

It's like, I will never find another man, I will never find another woman who will ever love me like that.

And everyone around you is like, they weren't really that great, you know.

Like, you were comfortable, right?

And I know it sucks to go through a breakup.

I know you're heartbroken, but a good friend is gonna say, bro, forget about her.

Forget about do you know how many fish are in the sea?

Do you know?

And some of them have jobs.

You know, it's like forget about forget about him.

Forget about him.

There's something better in your future.

Maybe at some point you were offered a better job.

Like, like crazy, like double your salary, better hours, better benefits, everything else, but you're loyal to your job that you have, right?

What is your spouse gonna tell you?

They're gonna say, forget that job.

Let's get that money, let's go, forget about it.

In either of those scenarios, are they actually telling you to wipe those things from your memory?

To just get like lobotomized and never remember that relationship again.

Of course not.

They're using something as an anchor for comparison of what's coming in your future.

This is exactly how God uses it.

He says, Do not remember the past events, pay no attention to the things of old.

And then he says, Look.

Look, I am about to do something new.

About to do, about to do something new.

So he moves us from our past, these things of old, the anchor of hope, what we're looking to and hoping for in our current situation.

Now he moves from past to future.

I'm about to do something new.

There's something coming for you in your future.

Even now, so now we've gone past, future, present.

Even now it is coming.

And then God summarizes for the question that if we understand it, it should strike us right to the core.

He asks a question assuming a negative answer.

Do you not?

Are you unaware that I'm doing something?

There's so much in this one verse.

And I don't want to move too quickly.

I want to I want to break it down.

I want to break down how God is moving these Israelites from this historic signature story in their past now to a future promise.

And if God makes a promise, you can take it to the bank.

No word from his mouth will ever return void.

I'm about to do something new, and how it affects them right where they're living in their present, even now, even now, even now in exile, even now when the world is upside down, even now it's coming.

But do you see it?

Are you aware?

Let's break it down.

He starts with a promise.

I am about to do something new.

Something new.

This represents the danger of getting stuck in our past.

Something that's that's very easy to do.

Because the past feels safe.

We've already lived that part of our life.

The past feels static.

By that I mean it can't change.

It's a comfortable, safe place to crawl into and to live in and to try and project into our current reality.

It's a real danger with getting stuck in the past.

You can go to any small town here in Texas on any night of the week, any bar in the town, and you will hear 30, 50, and 70-year-old men all retelling the tales of their touchdown past that won it all, the rivalry games, all the times they made, the local paper that four and a half people read.

You will run into guy after guy after guy.

I'm from these towns.

You know what they have?

They have Napoleon Dynamite's uh Uncle Rico syndrome, you know?

It's like, oh, if I could just go back, if Coach would have just put me in in the fourth quarter.

And it's it's funny, but it's deeply sad.

I ran into a young man from my hometown with a bright future ahead of him, and began to talk about how he would give anything for one more game.

High school football.

I just begged him to change his mind.

You know, I was thinking earlier, there might be a really easy litmus test for someone who's living with or without purpose.

And it's just to ask whether or not.

They would go back.

People who have no sense of purpose or significance in their life, who are stuck living in the past, dwelling on it day after day after day, they'd give anything to go back.

People who believe they have a purpose moving forward in their present, in their future, even if their past was wonderful, they like to think about it.

But they're on a path.

You couldn't give them enough to go back.

There's a danger in getting stuck in our past, even in the positive aspects of our past.

Sometimes it's like God works in these miraculous ways in our life, and we usually can't see those until hindsight.

We look back and we see all that God has done.

The first thing God does with Israel is He points them back to the Red Sea, the parting of the waters, Moses and the plagues.

But there's this danger even in that.

If he's gonna show up and do something for your favor, it's gotta look like it looked back then.

And yet, as we're supposed to be growing and maturing and progressing, and our creator, God, who is a creative God, needs us in different ways at different points in our lives.

He said, forget the past.

There's a danger in assuming that God is gonna show up in Babylon the exact same way he showed up in Egypt.

I don't blame him.

If I'm one of the Israelites in exile, I'm just praying.

I'm praying it will happen just like it happened in Egypt.

I would love that.

I'd love to be a part of that.

It's like I just know what's gonna happen.

There's gonna be a guy, he's gonna show up.

His name's gonna be like Tozez.

You know what I'm saying?

It's not Moses, but it's real close.

And then there's gonna probably be some plagues.

You know, like oh, if I'm one of the Israelites, I'm like, I can't wait to see Nebuchadnezzar, try to deal with these plagues, bro.

The flies, the frogs, the blood, the darkness.

I can't wait.

And then he's gonna be like, fine, y'all can go.

But then he's probably gonna change his mind.

You know, and Toses is gonna pull us right up to the lead sea.

You know what I'm saying?

It's gonna part the waters.

It's like we want it exactly how it happened last time.

We want the same miracle for a different season.

And what God wants is not for us to look for patterns.

What he wants is for us to look for him.

And we just want it the way that we want it.

But we can get so stuck on what God has done in our past that we run the very real risk of missing what God is doing for our future.

And it breaks my heart for people who either through the successes or failures of their past have anchored themselves into who they once were.

They so desperately want to go back to when they felt significance at one point, convinced they will never reach that same level of mattering to the world again.

On the other hand, you have people who have anchored themselves to the failures of their past.

Convinced by the worst moment of their life that that has become their identity in their present.

There's a very real danger in getting trapped in a past.

And God says, I'm about to do something new.

If you are stuck in the past, you run the risk of missing it in your future, but not just in your future.

He then says, even now, even now, it is coming.

There's danger in the past.

Um, we can get so busy rehashing that we miss the renewing.

That's a big deal because to reboot, to live the life you want to live, you must renew.

But there's also danger in missing it in the present.

All four weeks of this series, there has been one thread that linked all of them together.

We talked about revision, we talked about responding, we talked about retaining.

Now we're talking about renewing in every single sermon.

There was a part of the text that instructed us that we must, to live this life we want to live, we must increase our spiritual awareness.

We must.

If we are not aware, if we are not paying attention to what God is doing right now, not what we want him to do in our future, not what we wish he would have done in our past, what God is doing right now.

If we are not aware, we will miss it.

We will miss it.

He gave them a promise for their future.

I'm doing a new thing.

But then he gave them the reality of their present.

Even now, I'm working.

God is working.

God's working in this pandemic, he's working in the unrest, he's working in the division.

It is the most powerful frame of mind, it is the most powerful level of faith to actually believe that God is using even the most harmful, disappointing, frustrating, heartbreaking moments of your life for your good.

God is working, he's working in your strengths and in your weaknesses.

He's working in your joy and in your mourning.

He's working in your failures and your successes, he's working in your relationships and your loneliness.

He's working, he's working.

He was working for the Israelites who were trapped in Babylon.

Even now, it's coming.

You see, a new conqueror had stepped onto the scene.

His name was Cyrus.

History would know him as Cyrus the Great.

He was going in and taking over.

People wondered whether or not he'd be able to topple Babylon.

But if you're the Israelites, who cares?

You're a captive, you're in exile, you have no rights.

Okay, things change hands at the top.

What does that have to do with me?

Even now, God says it's coming.

After 70 years, the Israelites would be set free.

They would get to resume their former life, they'd get a renewal.

But there was no Moses, there were no plagues, no seas were parted, no armies destroyed, no blood was shed.

Cyrus the Great did take over Babylon.

And when he did, he surveyed his new dominion.

He realized he had some captives who didn't belong there.

And Cyrus the Great set them free.

I'm doing something new.

Conquerors to those who have been conquered are bad news.

And yet God was using a conqueror to set his people free from their captivity.

Even now.

Even now.

I understand that we have kind of been in exile.

We've been quarantined.

Our lives have been massively interrupted, and the interruption is not over.

By all accounts, it seems like it's still ramping up.

How do we resume the life we're called to and resume it with the resolve to see it through?

How do we get a renewal in this place that we're living in in these desperate times?

Look, I am about to do something new, God said.

Even now, even now, it is coming.

Even now, God is working.

The question is, do you see it?

For generations, many Christians have taken the posture of burying their heads in the sands of suffering.

Just waiting it out, you know?

Things will get better someday.

Far too many believers have spent their lives pacing the halls of their church just waiting on Christ's return.

I just can't wait for Jesus to come back.

Let me be clear.

I also cannot wait for Jesus to come back.

But when he comes back, I have no interest in being a part of a movement who is found hiding from the world.

The point of our life is not to wait for our rescue.

The point of our life is to be a part of the rescue.

Do you see it?

Do you see that in the hard parts of your story that God is working?

He's working.

You may not see it yet, but he's working.

Do you see it in the successes of your life that God is working?

He's preparing, he's pruning, he's testing, he's emboldening.

If you can have the faith that sees the worst parts of your life as an opportunity for God to work, then what in this world can stop you?

This is bulletproof faith.

But it starts with a question.

Do you see it?

Do you see that God is redeeming your past, working in your present, preparing for your future?

Do you see it?

We've been learning that suffering shifts our sight.

We begin to self-protect, we begin to self-isolate, and I'm not talking about quarantine, I'm talking about emotionally.

We close off, we shut down, and we just try to survive.

What if we could see it?

I quote the office way too much, but I'm going to again today.

And the very, very last episode, one of the characters says something very, very significant.

He says, I wish there was a way to know that you're living in the good old days while you're still in them.

It's a statement of retrospect, or what we often call hindsight.

And it's an important skill set to be able to get to the other side of a season and see how God was working in it.

But a powerful life is to be in the middle of the season of suffering and be able to trust that God is working in it before you see it.

Do you not see it?

To reboot, we must renew.

And there are so many areas of our life that we could think through.

Like, we need to renew our relationships, and we need to renew, you know, like our careers, and we need to renew our habits, and we need to renew our health.

It's like, where do we start?

And scripture has an answer for us.

It's a long time after Babylonian captivity.

In fact, Jesus has come, he's died, he's risen again, he's started his movement.

The apostle Paul wrote a letter to a church in Rome, and this is what he said.

He said, Do not be conformed to this age.

It's like, I get it.

Um, I see what's going on.

The world is in chaos, everyone is suffering, and I see how the world around you is handling this, and I'm telling you, that's not your path.

Do not be conformed to this age, but be transformed by the renewing of your minds.

Renewal begins in your mind.

God spoke to Israel, and he did not first give them something to do, he first challenged the way that they thought.

He pointed them to their past, an anchor of hope in their story as a nation.

And as quickly as he pointed to the past, he then told them to forget about the past.

To prepare their mind for something new in the future.

And to acknowledge that God was working in their present reality.

He started with their mind.

And what this tells us is that the primary interruption in your life is not the pandemic, and it's not your finances, and it's not your relationships.

The primary interruption is not what's happening in the world outside of you, it's what's happening in your thoughts inside of you.

If we can renew our minds, we can renew our lives.

If we can renew our lives, we can reboot our lives.

We can actually live the lives not only that we were created to live, but at the deepest parts of us that we desire to live.

Past hope, present awareness, future freedom.

Let's look at this one more time.

He says, Don't be conformed to this age.

Don't navigate this how the world is.

That's not your path or your purpose.

Be transformed by renewing your mind so that you may discern what is the good pleasing and perfect will of God.

The good pleasing and perfect will of God.

His path, his purpose, why he created you, why he put you on earth, so that you may discern it.

Discernment is an awareness of how God is working around you.

I'm doing something new.

Do you not see it?

Do you not discern it?

Are you unaware?

Do you not see it?

I wonder if you could ask yourself that question.

Do you see?

Do you see evidence of God in your life?

Do you trust Him in your marriage, in your parenting, in your finances, your career?

Do you see it?

If you can renew your mind in the present, here's what's so amazing: not only will it begin to secure the future that God has for you.

We get that.

Present affects future.

If you renew your mind in the present, it will also affect your past.

And all of a sudden, that memory, that moment, that decision, the worst thing that has ever happened to you.

The thing you revisit every day, the thing that instilled the false narratives in your mind that have guided your life, your actions, and decisions.

When you renew your mind in the present, you get to shed a fresh light.

And God is so good that He can take an unchanging past.

He can take the worst things you've lived through and use them as the greatest fuel for the future He has for you.

Renewing your mind not only changes how you can see in the present and who you will be in the future, it can actually change your past.

If God has your heart, you've believed in Jesus, your eternal life, your eternal life is secure.

If God has your heart, your eternal life is secure.

But if God does not have your mind, your earthly life will fall far short of the potential that God created you with.

To renew your mind is to be open to God using even the worst things in your life to prepare you for your purpose.

To renew your mind is to redeem the pain of your past.

To renew your mind is to choose to notice that God is at work every day, every moment of your life to renew your mind is to set yourself up, to walk powerfully into your future.

You can repair your past.

You can resume the life you're meant for in the present.

And you can move into your future with resolve.

If you can renew your mind, you can reboot your life.

Would you pray with me?

Father, we love you and we acknowledge that life is hard.

It's full of pain, heartache.

But God, you have given us a way to not just thrive in spite of those things, but to actually thrive through them.

God, I pray we would not get captured by our past.

That we would find where you have moved in our past as an anchor for our hope.

But God, that we would be fully aware of how you're moving in our present.

God, even when we can't see it, even when we don't understand it, that we can have the faith that someday, someday, we will see the miracle that you're in the midst of.

God, we believe you have a great future lined out for us.

I pray we would renew our minds.

And that when you ask us someday, if we saw how you were at work in our lives, that we could answer with a resounding yes.

We love you.

We pray these things in Jesus' name.

Amen.

So, just a couple of things before we head out.

Um, every week, if you have someone you need to talk to, or if you just need some prayer, our prayer team uh sets up right back here in the cafe.

That's also where our connect area is.

This is where you can find out how to get plugged in, where you can bring any questions you might have about MetaCurch.

If you're new, we'd love for you to go by Connect just so we can meet you and thank you for coming out to our services today.

We do want to always remind you guys to help fund what God is doing here.

As the world gets more and more chaotic, people are more and more inclined to hold on tightly to their resources.

And with a renewed mind, we see that as the movement of Jesus, when everyone else gets greedy, we get generous.

That's just who we are.

We invest in what we believe in, and so we hope that everyone will do their part uh to help fund this movement as well.

Make sure you guys are following us on social media.

We can keep you updated with any events we have going on, send some encouraging content your way and interact with you throughout the week.

I love you guys, and we hope to see you here next week.

Thanks so much for listening to the message today.

If this was helpful to you and you want to help us get the word out, you can subscribe to this podcast.

You can rate and review or share it with your friends.

If you want to get connected further with what MetaCurch is doing, you can go online to metachurch.tv.

There you can learn how to take next steps.

You can learn where our different venues are at if you ever wanted to visit, and you can also give financially to help push this movement forward.

Man, I love you guys, and I hope you have a great rest of your day.