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Heaven: The Beatific Vision | 09/06/26

West Hills Community Church // Morgan Hill

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  1. All right. Well, grace and peace

  2. everyone. If you don't know me, I'm

  3. Josh. I'm one of the teaching pastors

  4. here. You all look pretty familiar,

  5. thankfully. Um,

  6. so for those of you who haven't been

  7. here, we are on week four of a four-week

  8. series on heaven. And it sort of dawned

  9. on me as we've been going through this

  10. that really the one on heaven is the one

  11. I'm about to do. [laughter]

  12. The week one we talked about uh what

  13. happens in the intermediate state when

  14. people die now before the return of

  15. Jesus. Then we talked about the return

  16. of Christ in the day of the Lord and

  17. what that was going to be like. Eric

  18. talked about the new heavens and the new

  19. earth last week, what that is going to

  20. entail. But today we're going to talk

  21. about

  22. seeing God face to face.

  23. We're going to walk up to the top of

  24. they's mountain and we are with dim and

  25. broken eyes going to attempt to see with

  26. a broken mouth. I'm going to attempt to

  27. describe. And you know, scripture

  28. specifically says that this is

  29. indescribable. So just expect failure at

  30. the front end. Okay? [laughter]

  31. You know, I was I was talking with the

  32. Casados earlier about how it it feels to

  33. get up and try to teach on a a subject

  34. like this. It kind of feels like when

  35. your your kids want to make a happy

  36. mother's day card or a gift or something

  37. to say thank you to her fully

  38. recognizing that this does not

  39. adequately compensate her for all that

  40. she's done and poor, you know, it's like

  41. it's not really become becoming of her

  42. worth and value as a mom and a woman,

  43. but you take pleasure in the attempt,

  44. right? You're glad to see your kid try.

  45. That's this is my crayon drawing for

  46. Jesus today. Okay, so there you go.

  47. So, so I want to start by by stating the

  48. obvious and then sort of unpacking a

  49. little bit.

  50. What makes heaven heaven?

  51. What makes heaven actually heaven is

  52. that God is there.

  53. God is there.

  54. And hopefully part of what we've been

  55. doing as we've been going through this

  56. is it's helping you to sort of put away

  57. these silly cartoon images that we have

  58. in our our head about, you know, sitting

  59. on clouds with sunshine and St. Peter at

  60. a gate or whatever that we're we're

  61. putting all that stuff away now into the

  62. drawer of silly ideas and we're coming

  63. back together to just this staggering,

  64. terrifying, wonderful, glorious idea

  65. that heaven is where you finally

  66. encounter God. You come the the

  67. scripture is going to say face to face

  68. with God. You come to him in a new body

  69. with new capacities to actually see him

  70. as he is. And it's the kind of seeing,

  71. it's the kind of encounter that is best

  72. described as seeing his face.

  73. So, we sing that phrase a lot. If you've

  74. read your Bible a few times, you've

  75. encountered that phrase, seeing God's

  76. face. But I want to like just focus for

  77. a second on what that literally means.

  78. So, if you think about the different

  79. ways you can encounter a person. So,

  80. let's say you have a friend here at

  81. church and you're thinking about them

  82. and then buzz buzz your phone rings and

  83. you read a text message from them.

  84. you're like, "Oh, my friend said

  85. something to me." That's a way of

  86. encountering a person through a text.

  87. And

  88. it's a legitimate encounter, but you

  89. have to concede that that's not exactly

  90. an intimate encounter with a friend.

  91. Now, let's say you come to church on

  92. Sunday morning and you see your friend

  93. across the parking lot and they don't

  94. see you, but you see them. You're like,

  95. "Oh, hey, there's my friend." That's a

  96. very different way of encountering your

  97. friend. You saw them, but there wasn't

  98. like a real interaction that was

  99. meaningful.

  100. Now imagine the friend walks over and

  101. says, "Hey, how you doing?" And you have

  102. a a frank exchange about your week. You

  103. talk. You're like, "Wow, I had a

  104. meaningful interaction with my friend."

  105. Okay. Now, imagine that friend puts

  106. their hands on your shoulders, looks

  107. into your eyes and down into your soul

  108. and says, "How are you?"

  109. Now, what kind of interaction are we

  110. having?

  111. You're having the most intimate

  112. interaction possible. Most of you would

  113. probably be deeply uncomfortable if I

  114. did that to you after service, as

  115. several people did to me at the Morgan

  116. Hill campus. By the way, it actually

  117. was. It's uncomfortably intimate being

  118. that close to someone, but you do it

  119. with your spouse probably. But my point

  120. is that the Bible claims that heaven is

  121. having that kind of encounter with God.

  122. But even more so,

  123. when we're brought into the new creation

  124. and we start reading Revelation 21 and

  125. 22, you start getting symbols and

  126. pictures and ideas that aren't making

  127. explicit claims, but they're trying to

  128. push the idea that this intimacy is

  129. unlike anything you've ever experienced.

  130. It's intimacy to the greatest possible

  131. degree. And then it turns out that

  132. seeing God's face is not like seeing a

  133. human's face. It's not like having a

  134. passing experience looking into

  135. someone's eyes. As crazy as that is, my

  136. main point today and what I hope you

  137. will see in the book of Revelation and

  138. never forget for the rest of your life

  139. is my main point. Seeing God's face is

  140. the greatest thing that can possibly

  141. happen to anyone.

  142. Let me say that again.

  143. Seeing God's face

  144. is the greatest thing that can possibly

  145. happen to anyone.

  146. So, we ought to get ready. Please open

  147. your Bibles to Revelation chapter 22.

    Revelation 22 chapter mention

  148. And like everyone else who's taught in

  149. this series, as you know, it's not going

  150. to be just a strict exesus of one

  151. passage. We're going to jump around

  152. scripture a little bit to try to capture

  153. what the whole thing says on this topic.

  154. But let me briefly set the stage for my

  155. reading in chapter 21:es 1-5.

  156. In the book of Revelation, as you know,

  157. it's very highly debated book. But one

  158. thing everyone agrees on is that

  159. whatever revelation is is it's trying to

  160. unmask reality.

  161. It's trying to show you that all this

  162. stuff we observe is like totalitarian

  163. dictatorship and martyrdom and stuff

  164. like that, it all has spiritual

  165. influences and powers behind it. All of

  166. it. There's powers of darkness at work

  167. in the world and the power of God at

  168. work in the world in spite of it. And no

  169. matter what the powers of darkness seem

  170. to do, it can't seem to stop the opening

  171. of the seals, the pouring out of the B.

  172. Like God is doing what God will do, and

  173. he's ultimately sovereign over all

  174. things, even when it appears to be the

  175. opposite from your earthly perspective.

  176. All these things unfold by the power of

  177. God. And as this war unfolds, we saw

  178. four weeks ago that when people die,

  179. they go to be with God in some

  180. disembodied state.

  181. The week after that, we saw that this

  182. war that you're seeing in the book of

  183. Revelation, it has an expiration date.

  184. It has an end point where the war is

  185. over when Christ comes back and his

  186. enemies are defeated and he takes up his

  187. rule and reign over all the cosmos. That

  188. was the day of the Lord. We heard from

  189. Jason.

  190. Once that happens, once the M messiah

  191. returns in power and judgment, the new

  192. heaven and the new earth are [snorts]

  193. revealed and the old heaven and the old

  194. earth pass away.

  195. The primary we saw that described in

  196. chapter 21 in Revelation is that all the

  197. bad stuff is finally gone. All the tears

  198. are wiped away from our eyes. There's no

  199. more death or sorrow or suffering or

  200. pain in the new creation.

  201. No more sin, no more evil anywhere

  202. anymore. All is healed from its former

  203. sickness.

  204. That was the vision of the coming new

  205. world. But that wasn't enough.

  206. The coming of the new in the presence of

  207. God is not simply about all the bad

  208. things being driven away.

  209. That's the the part about this that's so

  210. hard to understand. You only have a

  211. reference point that's been tainted by

  212. sin and evil and wickedness and death.

  213. And we're saying all of that bad stuff

  214. is now gone. And in chapter 22, all of

  215. the good arrives

  216. and we have to attempt to perceive what

  217. that is and means.

  218. So today, we're going to do our best to

  219. try to press our thinking forward into

  220. the arrival of all that is good and true

  221. and beautiful. With that being said,

  222. let's now humble our minds. Let's open

  223. our hearts, and let's prepare to receive

  224. these words as God's words to us

  225. forever. Revelation chapter 22 beginning

    Revelation 22 chapter mention

  226. in verse one.

  227. Then the angel showed me the river of

  228. the water of life, [snorts] bright as

  229. crystal, flowing from the throne of God

  230. and of the Lamb through the middle of

  231. the streets of the city. Also on either

  232. side of the river, the tree of life with

  233. its 12 kinds of fruit, yielding its

  234. fruit each month. The leaves of the tree

  235. were for the healing of the nations.

  236. [snorts]

  237. No longer will there be anything

  238. accursed, but the throne of God and of

  239. the Lamb will be in it, and his servants

  240. will worship him. They will see his

  241. face,

  242. and his name will be on their foreheads,

  243. and night will be no more. They will

  244. need no light of lamp or sun, for the

  245. Lord God will be their light, and they

  246. will reign forever and ever. Amen.

  247. God, we ask for your help now to see

  248. what you've revealed in Christ's name.

  249. Amen.

  250. All right. We're going to look at four

  251. things this morning. We're going to look

  252. first at the fact that you were actually

  253. made to see God's face. You were made to

  254. see God's face. Second, we're going to

  255. see that in Christ, we begin to see

  256. God's face. Third, that in the world to

  257. come, we will fully see God's face.

  258. We're going to spend most of our time

  259. talking about that. What does that mean?

  260. And fourth, we're going to close by

  261. thinking together about how the hope of

  262. seeing his face changes us. Now, so

  263. let's start with number one. We were

  264. made to see God's face.

  265. In the introduction, I laid out some

  266. different ways of encountering a person.

  267. And the reason I thought of that was

  268. because of how these things are

  269. described in the Hebrew language. That

  270. way of thinking about the world is

  271. rooted in Hebrew language. If you're not

  272. familiar with the Hebrew language, it's

  273. very earthly. It's very bodily. It's

  274. very tangible and physical. So, a couple

  275. of examples. I I'm sure I've used this

  276. before, but if you wanted to say someone

  277. was angry in Hebrew, they don't have a

  278. word that means you're angry. They would

  279. say your nose is hot.

  280. And there it's capturing this sense of

  281. feeling you get when you are flushed

  282. with anger. And [snorts] then similarly

  283. when God wants to self-disclose himself

  284. to Moses in Exodus 34 and tell him his

  285. name, tell us his name. He wants to say

  286. I'm I'm slow to anger. But he doesn't

  287. say I'm slow to anger. He says my nose

  288. is long. Meaning it takes a long time

  289. for my nose to become hot. It's a very

  290. very physical language. If I if I wanted

  291. to say there's no way of saying like I'm

  292. going to go visit Janine at our house.

  293. You would to say it in Hebrew. You'd say

  294. I'm going to go stand before Janine's

  295. face. You see? Do you see what I'm

  296. saying? It's a very physical, tactile,

  297. spatial language.

  298. The expression to stand before someone's

  299. face has connotations of hospitality.

  300. It implies that you've been invited into

  301. a person's home or into a person's tent.

  302. And you got to think when you're

  303. traveling with, you know, you're living

  304. in the tribal world, you live in groups

  305. of couple hundreds and if you show up to

  306. that tribe where they're camped and you

  307. say, "I want to see the leader." They

  308. don't just let you in. If they don't

  309. know you, [laughter] if you're a

  310. stranger, they're like, "Who who are

  311. you? What do you want?" But if you're

  312. known, you're invited in. And if you're

  313. invited in, it's into someone's

  314. hospitality, protection, and oversight.

  315. Someone has received you as a guest. And

  316. it's against that cultural backdrop that

  317. we actually encounter the Garden of Eden

  318. in the book of Genesis. In Genesis 2 and

  319. 3, we discover that humanity was invited

  320. into God's place, placed into God's

  321. place to stand before God's face every

  322. day. And it's actually they're being

  323. driven away from God's face that is the

  324. real tragedy of chapter 3. Yes, the

  325. ground is cursed. Yes, childbearing is

  326. going to be painful. Yes, marriage is

  327. going to be hard now. But the great

  328. tragedy is when they're sent out, a

  329. mighty angel is set at the gate so that

  330. there's no way for them to ever come

  331. back in. They're going to be dependent

  332. for the rest of the Bible storyline on

  333. God's initiating grace to bring them

  334. back. There's nothing we can do to

  335. restore oursel to standing before God's

  336. face.

  337. There's a lot of different ways to make

  338. that point, but just quickly another

  339. example. We go read the Cain and Abel

  340. story in chapter 4. Cain kills his

  341. brother Abel because God does not

  342. receive his offering, but he receives

  343. Abel's offering. And God comes to bring

  344. judgment against him. And the thing that

  345. freaks Cain out is in chapter 4:14, it

  346. says he's going to be hidden from God's

  347. face. That was what he was actually

  348. afraid of by being driven out into the

  349. east.

  350. He was the first generation to live

  351. outside of the garden. And he was the

  352. first children of those who remembered

  353. what had been actually lost at the fall.

  354. To be driven further from God's face was

  355. true punishment because restoration to

  356. God's face was the only meaningful goal

  357. of humanity.

  358. The whole story of Abraham and his

  359. children, the whole story of Moses and

  360. and Israel is about God taking steps to

  361. try to bring his people back into his

  362. presence, about bringing them back inch

  363. by inch, foot by foot, back into the

  364. fullness of intimacy and of living

  365. together that they shared in Eden.

  366. And you've read the story, most of you,

  367. the process is slow and grueling and

  368. painful. And it's slow and grueling and

  369. painful because we find out in Exodus 33

  370. that given the state of our souls, given

  371. the brokenness of our sin, it's no

  372. longer safe for us to see God's face.

  373. Moses says, "God, show me your glory."

  374. And God responds to Moses by saying in

  375. Exodus 33, I think it's verse 19, "No

  376. man can see me and live." Remember that

  377. we are too broken.

  378. Our eyes have become too dark. Our

  379. hearts have become too hard to even

  380. glimpse the holy purity of the

  381. lifegiving God

  382. apart from God's grace.

  383. If we saw God, we would die. It's

  384. interesting. I'm going to try not to

  385. rabbit trail too much in this sermon,

  386. but I spent three weeks preparing to do

  387. this and there's just so much

  388. information. It's so hard. 45 minutes is

  389. not fair. Um anyway, this the

  390. tabernacle, you think about what the

  391. tabernacle is doing. We're going through

  392. it as a community group. You know,

  393. there's a whole theology of how that

  394. thing is laid out. When you when you

  395. read it line by line, it feels really

  396. tedious and a lot, but if you step back

  397. and look at the big picture of how it's

  398. it's organized, it's making a really

  399. clear point. It's like in the middle is

  400. where God is. And the value of

  401. everything relative relative to the

  402. middle like decreases in value. What's

  403. happening in the middle in the Holy of

  404. Holies is the most precious thing in the

  405. universe. And we're going to build it

  406. with things and decorate it in ways that

  407. reflect that truth, that reflect that

  408. reality. But every year, nobody gets to

  409. go in there except for one guy.

  410. [laughter]

  411. A high priest gets to go in. And it's

  412. actually not safe for him either.

  413. There's a whole process, a whole

  414. ceremony he has to go through where he

  415. adorns himself with garments. He covers

  416. himself with the same materials that are

  417. inside the Holy of Holies. And so, it's

  418. almost like he's putting on a costume.

  419. Someone from heaven fit for heaven can

  420. go into the presence of God, but nobody

  421. else. if you go in there, in fact, the

  422. worry is that you'll die because God's

  423. so holy. And so, every year after year,

  424. this guy would put on this heavenly man

  425. costume and he would put a a name plate

  426. on his head that said, "The Lord's

  427. Yahweh's." And he would walk in and make

  428. a sin offering on behalf of the people.

  429. And Israel watched that play out over

  430. and over and over again. And as you

  431. know, by the time we get to the book of

  432. Hebrews, people are making connections

  433. like that guy was doing an impression of

  434. the Messiah. what that guy did in the

  435. Holy of Holies in terms of entering into

  436. the holy place into the presence of God

  437. and offering the blood of sacrifice on

  438. behalf of the people for their sins.

  439. That's what the Messiah was coming to

  440. do.

  441. This definitely happened.

  442. God showed his presence to the people.

  443. So, so you might be thinking, well, wait

  444. a second, Josh, you just said we can't

  445. see God and live. What about all those

  446. times people see like the pillar of

  447. cloud or they they Moses sees the

  448. burning bush. Isn't that seeing God?

  449. There are people who had visions of

  450. something that was like God. They're

  451. called theophanes. Some sort of

  452. encounter with God. But John in John

    John 1 chapter mention

  453. chapter 1 is very clear in verse 18. He

  454. says, "No one has ever seen God."

  455. No one has ever seen God. So what he

  456. must mean is whatever they saw in the

  457. Old Testament was some super obscured,

  458. super scaled down, super nerfed version

  459. of what God is. No one has seen the

  460. fullness of his powerful glory and face

  461. the way that we're seeing here in

  462. Revelation.

  463. So no one postfall has truly seen God,

  464. but certainly you can see we were meant

  465. to. We were made for the garden. Our

  466. destiny is to see his face again. And a

  467. lot of what's happening in the story in

  468. between is reating that point that you

  469. were made to be close to him and he

  470. wants to be reconciled to us but it's

  471. not safe because of our sin.

  472. So let's go to point two. In Christ we

  473. begin to see God's face.

  474. When I uh started preparing for this I

  475. realized beatotific vision study. So

  476. this is called the botific vision

  477. sermon. And all that means is the happy

  478. blessed seeing of God. Whatever that

  479. means. So for thousands of years, people

  480. theologians have been wrestling with

  481. when it says in verse four, we see his

  482. face, what exactly does that mean? And

  483. it gets super technical because God

  484. doesn't have a body. So what are we

  485. seeing when we see God? And every answer

  486. you can think of like that people have

  487. thought of and tried to unpack and

  488. there's logical problems with it. It's

  489. just it's crazy going down into it all.

  490. So, I realized a few weeks ago that

  491. that's probably not going to be the

  492. helpful direction for Sunday morning. In

  493. fact, I don't know why I'm telling you

  494. all this. Let's get back to my notes.

  495. Um, in Christ, God took on flesh. Deity

  496. took on flesh. And his deity when he did

  497. that was veiled to human eyes. It wasn't

  498. until after the resurrection that almost

  499. anyone really understood what they had

  500. been looking at.

  501. I mean, if you think about it for a

  502. minute, you know, Christ was like

  503. walking around on earth talking with

  504. people and he was like, "I'm going to go

  505. to Jerusalem." Peter's like, "You can't

  506. do that." And you're like, "You're

  507. talking to God." Like, in retrospect,

  508. you're talking to God. But he didn't

  509. realize he's talking to God. Jesus would

  510. say things like, "In my father's house

  511. are many rooms, and I'm going ahead to

  512. prepare a place for you." And Philip in

  513. John 14 is like, "Show us the Father,

  514. and that will be enough." And Jesus is

  515. like, "Have you not like how could you

  516. ask me that? Don't you know that the

  517. father is in me and I'm how could you

  518. say show us the father? And even in

  519. response to that, they don't really get

  520. what he's saying. And frankly, they can

  521. be forgiven. And I don't think anyone

  522. had a concept of like what the

  523. incarnation was going to mean. And as

  524. you know, for like several hundred years

  525. afterwards, people kept arguing like who

  526. was that guy exactly? Um but my point is

  527. in Christ, the deity was veiled. People

  528. couldn't see it in its fullness.

  529. Jesus himself in John 17 when he's

  530. praying the priestly prayer he asks the

  531. father Lord ple please these people

  532. stand next to me take them to be with me

  533. where I'm going so that they can see the

  534. glory that I had with you before the

  535. foundation of the world. So while

  536. they're standing next to him there's

  537. something about Jesus that they cannot

  538. fully see and Jesus is asking that it be

  539. shown to them.

  540. You see glimpses like on Mount Tabor at

  541. the mount of transfiguration. Jesus is

  542. is changed in such a way that makes

  543. people feel like should we build

  544. tabernacles up here.

  545. Paul in 2 Corinthians 4 6 makes the

  546. staggering claim postresurrection.

  547. He says, "Let the light shine out of the

  548. darkness that is shown in our hearts to

  549. give the light of the knowledge of the

  550. glory of God in the face of Jesus

  551. Christ."

  552. Obviously, the face of God was seen in

  553. Jesus in a way that had never been

  554. encountered postfall.

  555. In Christ, we begin to see God's face

  556. not only [snorts] literally, but in the

  557. sense of that welcome and desire to

  558. bring us back, that orientation of

  559. hospitality towards us in Christ at the

  560. cross. He's beckoning us back to

  561. himself.

  562. And yet Jesus himself, like I said,

  563. acknowledges that this is not to see him

  564. fully. In Christ, you only begin to see

  565. God's face.

  566. All right. Now, point three. In the

  567. world to come, we fully see God's face.

  568. Coming back to Revelation chapter 22,

    Revelation 22 chapter mention

  569. the war is over. The victory's been won.

  570. We are fully restored. The new heavens

  571. and the new earth are here. And we're

  572. standing before the throne of God,

  573. seeing his face.

  574. So the first question is, what are we

  575. looking at?

  576. What what will we see when we see him?

  577. The answer that I think is correct

  578. without going into any details is that

  579. we are seeing God's actual essence. We

  580. are seeing who he is, what he is

  581. totally

  582. in fullness.

  583. Well, what does that mean, Josh? Well,

  584. you know, welcome to the end of the

  585. English language. It's [laughter] like

  586. we're on the verge of like, you know,

  587. the the end of theological knowledge.

  588. The powerful personal lifegiving source

  589. of all goodness, life, and beauty is

  590. made visible to us somehow.

  591. Here's another thing to think about.

  592. This is probably not talking about

  593. physical sight.

  594. God has no body.

  595. The text says we will see him. That is

  596. some kind of analogy for perception. But

  597. we know two things here. In some sense,

  598. we will actually see and comprehend him.

  599. I don't know in what way that that

  600. means. But also, we have to be changed.

  601. We have to be transformed in order for

  602. this seeing to happen. And you see that

  603. really clearly in 1 John chapter, yeah,

  604. 1 John 3:4 when he says we need to be

    1 John 3:4

  605. like him in order to see him as he is.

  606. So, we won't see God comprehensively

  607. because he's infinite, but we will see

  608. him truly. I'll talk more about that in

  609. a few minutes. In this vision of

  610. Revelation, you're seeing God's face to

  611. face, and it says his name is on our

  612. forehead.

  613. You got to understand,

  614. it turns out that when the high priest

  615. was going into the Holy of Holies year

  616. after year after year, he wasn't just

  617. doing an impression of Jesus.

  618. He was doing an impression of you.

  619. That's a like that thing that everyone

  620. just watched happen over and over and

  621. over again for generations, for

  622. thousands of years, thinking to

  623. themselves, I wonder if I'll ever get to

  624. go in there.

  625. It says at the end of time, like we're

  626. all there with him.

  627. It's it's a symbol or an analogy that's

  628. trying to say the intimacy has come as

  629. much as it possibly can. You are invited

  630. all the way in.

  631. In the Old Testament, people thought

  632. about seeing God.

  633. The prophets would and the psalmist

  634. would reflect on it. They would say

  635. write things like in God's presence

  636. there's going to be fullness of joy and

  637. at his right hand are going to be

  638. pleasures plural forever more. They

  639. would contemplate gazing upon the beauty

  640. of the Lord. They would pray every year

  641. that God would make his face shine upon

  642. his people as the great blessing of

  643. Israel. that he'd lift up his

  644. countenance upon them.

  645. Here at this climactic moment, those

  646. prayers and anticipation find their

  647. fullest possible application.

  648. It's a thing that those who held on and

  649. reflected upon the creation story

  650. yearned for to see his face to be

  651. restored fully and finally back into his

  652. presence under his hospitality and love.

  653. No more sin, no more curse, no more

  654. hiddenness, no more separation.

  655. In the world to come when we see him in

  656. his glory that says

  657. God illumines us.

  658. God gives us this vision by which we see

  659. his glory.

  660. The clouds, the night, the dark shadows

  661. of the old world are all no longer.

  662. They're no longer able to diminish

  663. Christ's beautiful, glorious light in

  664. the world. You know, it's interesting

  665. that isn't actually a comment about

  666. whether the sun or moon exists in the

  667. world to come. It's a statement that

  668. even if they do, the glory of God

  669. outshines all other created lights.

  670. It's like we lived this whole life with

  671. a candle and then Christ comes and the

  672. stadium lights turned on.

  673. The glory of God will cover the earth,

  674. the new cosmos, the way the water covers

  675. the sea. And once we're illumined by

  676. him, there's no more darkness. Once we

  677. can see him, we can see everything. The

  678. light of the glory of God overwhelms all

  679. other created light, rendering it all

  680. unnecessary.

  681. And it says we will reign with God.

  682. There's a lot of discussion about what

  683. that means. Here's what I think it

  684. means. I think it means that in the

  685. world to come, our union with him is so

  686. complete. Our heart is and minds are so

  687. purified that we completely fully from

  688. our bones desire what God desires. love

  689. what God loves, care about what God's

  690. car caring about such that he can say

  691. his reigning is like our reigning with

  692. him. Our wills are so aligned.

  693. Our hearts are in perfect accord with

  694. his heart. The way three notes resonate

  695. to make a chord.

  696. So we get to see the new heavens and new

  697. earth. We see his face truly, deeply,

  698. thoroughly. We comprehend him somehow.

  699. His glory turns on every light. There's

  700. no more darkness, nothing hidden.

  701. So, let's think together now about what

  702. this is actually going to be like. You

  703. see what it says? What is it going to be

  704. like?

  705. In the in the first message when Elliott

  706. came here and he was talking about what

  707. is it going to be like to be in the

  708. intermediate state, he said something. I

  709. logged it and I thought about it. He was

  710. like, you know, I don't know what being

  711. with God is going to be like. He's like,

  712. but he made everything. He created all.

  713. He loves all. It's not going to be

  714. boring. You guys remember him saying

  715. that?

  716. Okay.

  717. So, I want to and and that's true. I

  718. don't disagree with any any of that. I

  719. just want to push that claim way way way

  720. way way way

  721. further.

  722. I want to make the claim that seeing

  723. God's face is the greatest thing that

  724. could ever happen to anyone.

  725. When Christian scholars and philosophers

  726. try to describe what this will be like,

  727. they use phrases like this. They say

  728. things like the sight of God's face will

  729. produce in us the highest conceivable

  730. levels of human happiness,

  731. which is true.

  732. That is a true sentence. But it somehow

  733. doesn't land the way I think it's

  734. supposed to land. It's supposed to hit

  735. you the deep parts of your soul. I think

  736. this is a doctrine you're supposed to

  737. feel. I want to try and think together

  738. about what this sentence means in a way

  739. that hopefully will resonate at a deeper

  740. level.

  741. I want to try to think about this

  742. literally.

  743. Give me a moment to set this up.

  744. So, first the obvious. God designed you,

  745. all of you, your hardware and your

  746. software or however you want to say

  747. that. Every feeling you've ever had,

  748. every joy, sorrow, hunger, need, desire,

  749. like that was all programmed into you by

  750. God.

  751. All of it. every longing of your heart

  752. that you've ever felt, every, you know,

  753. everything you've ever felt was created

  754. by God and then it was created to have a

  755. a a partial answer in this world.

  756. So, a temporary satisfaction in this

  757. world. So, for instance, loneliness

  758. drives you to seek a spouse or a friend.

  759. Anger drives you to seek justice. Fear

  760. drives you to seek safety. Hunger drives

  761. you to eat. Sexual desire drives you to

  762. marriage. Boredom drives you to

  763. innovation. All those feelings, all

  764. those urges, all those drives were

  765. developed and installed into your body

  766. by Christ. Sorry, I keep using tech

  767. language where I live in Silicon Valley.

  768. All those longings were not meant to

  769. find their final fulfillment in the

  770. things of this world.

  771. And it's what a funny providence that

  772. we've been going through the book of

  773. Ecclesiastes as I've been preparing to

  774. preach this text because his whole

  775. point, his whole thing is like, I'm

  776. going to run every experiment I can

  777. think of to see if anything in this

  778. world satisfies me. And actually, it

  779. turns out all of it is he.

  780. It's all he. There must be something up

  781. there.

  782. Not to spoil the end of the book.

  783. [laughter]

  784. I tried to satisfy my soul in literally

  785. every leading contender, wealth, fame,

  786. power, women, blah blah blah. And

  787. nothing really matters. It turns out

  788. nothing really satisfies. Nothing is

  789. permanent. Nothing is solid. nothing is

  790. finally within my control. Which means

  791. all of these longings that were given to

  792. us by God were always meant to point

  793. beyond the things of earth. They were

  794. all meant to point beyond themselves to

  795. the God of heaven.

  796. God specifically calibrated your

  797. hungers, longings, desires to

  798. specifically be filled and satisfied by

  799. him in his fullness.

  800. These yearnings you feel for love or for

  801. joy or for adventure, even physical

  802. pleasure. The hunger you feel in your

  803. heart is not just for food, but for good

  804. food, for beauty, for meaning, for

  805. acceptance, for rest. God built them. He

  806. formed and fashioned them in such a way

  807. that they can only sort of be answered

  808. here. You have to look beyond them to

  809. him.

  810. And I believe the claim of this text

  811. is that the filling and the satisfying

  812. to overflowing is found before his face.

  813. It's really crazy to to think about it

  814. and it makes me squeamish to even sort

  815. of say it, but Paul, I think, licensed

  816. it in Ephesians 5 at the end there when

  817. he's like, you know, for this reason it

  818. says a man shall leave his father and

  819. mother and the two shall become one

  820. flesh. I'm saying that this mystery is

  821. referring to Christ in the church.

  822. Whatever like joy and satisfaction that

  823. comes from marital intimacy

  824. points beyond itself, too.

  825. It's followed by chords of love all the

  826. way up to the throne room of God.

  827. every good thing we've ever loved in

  828. this world, every exciting discovery,

  829. every backpacking trip to Yoseite, every

  830. fun dinner we've had out, every amazing

  831. steak, every wonderful vacation, every

  832. moment of awe at the top of a tall

  833. mountain or on the shores of a vast

  834. beach. They were all things drawing us

  835. only ever upward toward the God of

  836. heaven to find satisfaction in him.

  837. You and I were made, our entire physical

  838. and spiritual design is pointed towards

  839. a super fulfillment, towards a hyper

  840. exitation before the face of God

  841. himself.

  842. The right word is probably fulfilled,

  843. but I I'm hesitant to use it because

  844. when you say fulfilled, it almost has

  845. like a temporal element to it. Like I

  846. was hungry and then I ate and now I'm

  847. full.

  848. In this world, you're hungry, you eat,

  849. you're full, and then it's over. I don't

  850. think it's like that. I think when you

  851. come before God's face, you enter into a

  852. dynamic, empowered, new and glorious

  853. reality.

  854. It's seeing God's face is a thing you

  855. do. Reigning with him is a thing you do.

  856. Worshiping him is a thing you do.

  857. All the good and wonderful things about

  858. this life are going to be like cheap

  859. imitations of their fullness before

  860. God's face.

  861. I don't think you've ever loved anything

  862. the way you're going to love God.

  863. I think you and I in all of the wonder

  864. of our created selves, we're like turbo

  865. powered muscle cars that have only ever

  866. been driven like 40 miles an hour our

  867. entire lives. The most pleasurable thing

  868. you've ever had took you to about 40.

  869. When you get to God's face, it's like

  870. the engine opens up.

  871. What you really are,

  872. what you really were meant for

  873. is revealed in the fullness of the power

  874. of all of your intended design.

  875. You've never loved anything the way you

  876. will love God when you see his face.

  877. You've never been more excited by

  878. anything than the way you will feel when

  879. you see God's face. You've never tasted

  880. anything as good as God's goodness.

  881. You've never enjoyed something more than

  882. the pleasures plural at God's right

  883. hand. You've never had a heartache

  884. consoled in the way that you will

  885. experience consolation from the hands of

  886. your risen king.

  887. Now, having said all that,

  888. I want to address a very important

  889. concern that people have been raising

  890. about this for 2,000 years. You can

  891. literally find people raising this

  892. concern in like the second century. And

  893. that concern is this.

  894. Okay, Josh,

  895. let's concede everything you just said

  896. is true. This is going to be amazing

  897. and like I can't wait and I'm excited.

  898. But how about like after a million

  899. years?

  900. Won't it get boring?

  901. What? Let Let me grant you a hundred

  902. million years. 100 millions years of of

  903. contemplating God of of engaging him

  904. with my whole heart and being. Won't at

  905. some point I'll be like, I wonder what

  906. else there is to do around here.

  907. the the actual question there, what

  908. you're actually asking is, won't we

  909. eventually exhaust

  910. the reality of God?

  911. Boredom typically comes from feeling

  912. like you've exhausted something, like

  913. there's no more novelty, no more

  914. challenge. We become bored when the

  915. object of our attention can no longer

  916. sustain our capacity for desired

  917. discovery.

  918. Gregory of Nissa in like I think of the

  919. 3rd century wrote about this in his

  920. commentary on Song of Psalms, Song of

  921. Songs. And he wanted to clarify in

  922. response to that concern that though in

  923. glory we know God truly, we actually

  924. never get to the end of knowing him

  925. completely.

  926. Our souls, he wrote, encounter with God

  927. is an ever deepening participation in an

  928. infinite reality.

  929. your soul will say in encountering God,

  930. I have found the one whom I can never

  931. exhaust.

  932. Another way of thinking about it is the

  933. way Jonathan Edwards put it in his

  934. essay, the portion portion of the

  935. righteous, when he says God's actually

  936. the fountain head or the root of all

  937. joy.

  938. All blessedness, all joy, all bliss is

  939. his his word that he likes. It's root

  940. and wellspring flow out of God's person.

  941. So you think I'm a creature capable of

  942. joy and bliss and I find that in the

  943. continual encounter with the new and

  944. very creative things, but Edwards would

  945. say all that stuff is like raindrops

  946. being cast out of the hurricane of joy

  947. that is God's being. So you think like,

  948. well, I like steak, too. Can I like eat

  949. the steak? And it's like that's only

  950. tastes good because God made it that

  951. way. God is the source of all bliss and

  952. blessing.

  953. Thomas Aquinus spent a lot of time on

  954. this problem

  955. and he thought like just the fact that

  956. God is infinite means it's impossible to

  957. ex the very fact of his infinence makes

  958. it impossible to exhaust him. And his

  959. his big thing was like, look, you're

  960. going to be able to see God truly, but

  961. it's going to be like seeing the ocean.

  962. Like you you wouldn't come with me to

  963. Santa Cruz and go stand on the wararf

  964. and look out and be like, I know what

  965. the whole Pacific Ocean looks like now

  966. cuz I saw this one little stretch of

  967. beach. You are seeing the ocean. You are

  968. getting your head sort of around what

  969. the ocean is by looking at it there, but

  970. you're not exhausting what the ocean is.

  971. So then I started to think before I

  972. worry about exhausting the reality of

  973. God, I wonder how long it would take to

  974. exhaust the ocean.

  975. And I got to confess something for the

  976. first time. I used chat GPT for help on

  977. this servant to answer the following

  978. question. How long chat would it take

  979. for me to see the whole ocean? And chat

  980. was like, well, are you like trying to

  981. see every square inch? Yeah. How long

  982. would it take to see every square inch?

  983. Well, do you care about what's

  984. underneath or what's be? Okay. Yeah. Uh

  985. how all the top and all every square

  986. foot down at the bottom. It's like,

  987. okay, are you doing this for eight or

  988. nine hours a day? Are you doing this for

  989. 24 hours? It's like, okay, Chad, can you

  990. just give me enough?

  991. It wanted to get specific, you know, and

  992. so I said, "Yeah, I want to see the

  993. whole thing all the way down to the

  994. bottom." It's like, "Do you want to

  995. study it for 30 minutes?" It's like,

  996. "Sure. How long would it take to study

  997. every cubic meter of water in the ocean?

  998. And it went calculating,

  999. calculating, calculating.

  1000. And then it was like, Josh, I was like,

  1001. what?

  1002. If you went absurdly fast and only spent

  1003. 1 second per cubic meter of ocean, it

  1004. would take you roughly 127 billion years

  1005. to see all of it once.

  1006. I don't know how else to make you feel

  1007. the reality of that, but for context,

  1008. most scientists who study the age of the

  1009. universe think that the universe is

  1010. about 13.8 billion years old.

  1011. 127 bill 9 times the age of the

  1012. universe.

  1013. to see our little ocean on our little

  1014. world in our little solar system in our

  1015. little corner of this one galaxy among

  1016. billions.

  1017. Now consider the God who made all these

  1018. things.

  1019. When you see his face, you will know him

  1020. truly. You will engage him joyfully and

  1021. vigorously with all your heart, mind,

  1022. soul, and strength, but you will never

  1023. exhaust him.

  1024. I think it's important to at this moment

  1025. put away a ridiculous idea like that.

  1026. Here's my point.

  1027. It's not just that every tear will be

  1028. wiped away and that death and sickness

  1029. will be no more. It's that the opposite

  1030. is also true. It's not the disappearance

  1031. of all the bad. It's the arrival of all

  1032. the greatest possible good.

  1033. You will be as filled and full of joy

  1034. and excitement and pleasure and peace as

  1035. is utterly possible in the new body you

  1036. are given forever. That's the

  1037. beatotivific vision.

  1038. That is seeing God's face in the life of

  1039. the world to come.

  1040. Today's greatest joys will feel like a

  1041. dark and distant memory when we are

  1042. united forever to the God of heaven and

  1043. earth.

  1044. Listen to me.

  1045. If you are in Christ,

  1046. if you are a follower of Jesus, that's

  1047. your future.

  1048. And it can never be taken away from you.

  1049. The only thing anyone can ever do is get

  1050. you there quicker.

  1051. That's the future that lies before us.

  1052. That is the destiny of all who follow

  1053. him. What can today's cares and

  1054. anxieties and frustrations do to me?

  1055. So now we have to think for a second

  1056. about what to do with this information.

  1057. Um my advice is do what the apostle John

  1058. says in 1 John 3:es 4 and 5. Everyone

  1059. who thus hopes to see him this way

  1060. purifies himself as God is pure.

  1061. We have kind of a lovehate relationship

  1062. with that word purity now because purity

  1063. culture had some really destructive

  1064. effects. And the the problem with that

  1065. was that purity culture really just

  1066. focused on certain actions. Like if you

  1067. do certain actions, you're impure. If

  1068. you don't do certain actions, you're

  1069. pure. Which, as I'm sure you know, was a

  1070. crazy way to talk about purity. Purity

  1071. is about your affection. It's about what

  1072. you love. Jesus says, "Blessed are the

  1073. pure in heart, for they shall see God."

  1074. You know, ethics are like a downstream

  1075. effect of having a pure heart. But

  1076. having a pure heart is about loving God

  1077. with all your heart, soul, mind, and

  1078. strength, and loving your neighbor as

  1079. yourself. And so purifying your heart

  1080. means stop treating created things like

  1081. they're going to give you what God alone

  1082. can give you.

  1083. The other word for that is idolatry.

  1084. thinking that money is gonna finally

  1085. make you safe and happy and fulfilled.

  1086. Thinking that a spouse is gonna do that

  1087. for you. You get like a foretaste of it.

  1088. Here you get the icon version like in

  1089. the sense of like an icon that you click

  1090. on an computer screen and it's like a

  1091. small picture but it's not the real

  1092. program.

  1093. God is the real thing.

  1094. Those who desire to stand before

  1095. Christ's face will purify himself as God

  1096. is pure.

  1097. And the second thing I think we're

  1098. supposed to do with this idea

  1099. is to think about it,

  1100. to to turn these facts over in our

  1101. minds,

  1102. to reflect on them, to meditate on them.

  1103. Thick stakes, beautiful views, hidden

  1104. swimming pools, snuggling puppies,

  1105. seeing your children succeed at

  1106. something that they worked really hard

  1107. at. All those things that happen in you

  1108. were all made for the throne room. They

  1109. are made to be answered in the presence

  1110. of the true God. They're all foretastes

  1111. and previews and sips and samples of the

  1112. inexhaustible joy, the never- ending

  1113. pleasures that come forth in power from

  1114. the God of life.

  1115. It's so crucial as we think about the

  1116. gospel and we think about ourselves and

  1117. our God to to never lose sight of the

  1118. fact like this. What I just talked about

  1119. is what all of this has actually been

  1120. about. You know, we we love the cross.

  1121. We we're so broken and sinful and we see

  1122. what happened at the cross that Christ

  1123. died for our sins to reconcile us to

  1124. God. And it's so hard to like not just

  1125. focus on that

  1126. and to lose sight of the fact that I

  1127. mean we have to defend that forever, but

  1128. that was a means to an end.

  1129. Christ died once the just for the unjust

  1130. to what?

  1131. To bring us to God.

  1132. At a certain point, all of us have to

  1133. stop thinking about just the fact that

  1134. we're so guilty and our sins are so

  1135. terrible, even though they are. And at a

  1136. certain point, we have to recognize like

  1137. you dealt with that on the cross to

  1138. bring me all the way to you. And

  1139. actually, what you want is not for me to

  1140. live in the ongoing reflections upon my

  1141. own wickedness, evil, and sin. You want

  1142. me to think about your pure, holy,

  1143. perfect face that I might be prepared to

  1144. meet you when I see you.

  1145. You were saved to see his face. You were

  1146. bought to be made beloved. You were

  1147. redeemed in order to be restored. You

  1148. were justified to be filled with joy.

  1149. You will see his face. His name will be

  1150. on your forehead. And you will no longer

  1151. need light to see because all of his

  1152. glory will be fully and finally revealed

  1153. to you. And you will reign with him

  1154. forever and ever.

  1155. This is where Paul says in 1 Corinthians

    1 Corinthians 2:9

  1156. 2:9, "What no eye has seen, nor ear

  1157. heard, nor the heart of man even

  1158. imagined, what God has prepared for

  1159. those who love him."

  1160. Seeing God's face is the greatest thing

  1161. that can possibly happen to anyone. So

  1162. get ready. Let's pray.