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Whatever Happens Pt. 3

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  1. Good evening. Welcome to Voice in the Wilderness. I'm Don Noble,

  2. a Pure Heart Ministries, and I welcome you today with

  3. exceedingly abundantly and overflowing joy. I've been speaking to you

  4. about whatever happens. This is Part three and the premise

  5. is on the scripture that Paul wrote to the Philippian Church,

  6. and that scripture is Philippians one twenty seven, which says,

  7. whatever happens, conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the

  8. Gospel of Christ. So the last time I spoke, I

  9. talked about walking in that maturity where we know the

  10. will of God, we pursue the will of God. And

  11. today I want to continue in helping us to understand

  12. the maturity of being a Christian, or understanding the maturing

  13. of a Christian. And I want to start today in

  14. the Book of Hebrews, and the writer of Hebrews writes

  15. in chapter twelve some verses that I think are going

  16. to be very helpful to us. I'm going to read

  17. it in the New King James first, then I'm going

  18. to read it in the Amplified Classic, then I'm going

  19. to read it in the New Living Translation. And the

  20. reason is that you get the full scope of what

  21. this writer is trying to say to us. So if

  22. you have your Bible turned to Hebrews chapter twelve, and

  23. I'm going to be reading verses five through eleven, and

  24. it says, and you have forgotten the exhortation which speaks

  25. to you as to sons, my son, do not despise

  26. the chastening of the Lord, nor be discouraged when you

  27. are rebuked by him. For whom the Lord loves, he

  28. chastens and scourges every son whom he receives. If you

  29. endure chastening, God deals with you as sons. For what

  30. son is there whom a father does not chasten. But

  31. if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers,

  32. then you are illegitimate and not sons. Furthermore, we have

  33. had human fathers who corrected us, and we paid them respect.

  34. Shall we not much more readily be in subjection to

  35. the father of spirits, and live, for indeed for a

  36. few days chastened, For they excuse me, for they indeed

  37. for a few days chastened us, as seem best to them.

  38. But He for our profit, that we may be partakers

  39. of His holiness. Now no chastening seems to be joyful

  40. for the present, but painful. Nevertheless, afterward, it yields the

  41. peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been trained

  42. by it. Okay, let's look at that in the amplified

  43. Classic version. Therefore, then, since we whoops, that's starting with

  44. verse five, I mean one, let's start with verse five,

  45. and you completely forgotten the divine word of appeal and encouragement,

  46. in which you are reasoned with and addressed as sons,

  47. My son, do not think lightly or scorn to submit

  48. to the correction and discipline of the Lord, nor lose

  49. courage and give up and faint when you are reproved

  50. or corrected by him. For the Lord corrects and disciplines

  51. every one whom he loves, and he punishes even scourges

  52. every son whom he accepts and welcomes to his heart

  53. and cherishes. You must submit to and endure correction for discipline.

  54. God is dealing with you as sons. For what son

  55. is there whom his Father does not thus train and

  56. correct and discipline. Now, if you are exempt from correction

  57. and left without discipline in which all of God's children share,

  58. then you are illegitimate offspring and not true sons at all. Moreover,

  59. we have had earthly fathers who disciplined us, and we

  60. yielded to them and respected them for training us. Shall

  61. we not much more cheerfully submit to the Father of

  62. spirits and so truly live? For our earthly fathers disciplined

  63. us only for a short period of time and chastises

  64. as seemed proper and good to them. But he Christ

  65. disciplines us for our certain good, that we may become

  66. shares in His holiness. For the time being, no discipline

  67. brings joy, but seems grievous and painful, But afterward it

  68. yields a peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have

  69. been trained by it, a harvest of fruit which consists

  70. in righteousness, in conformity to God's will, in purpose, thought,

  71. and action, resulting in right living and right standing with God. Now,

  72. before I go on to read those sets of scriptures

  73. in the New Living Translation, I do want to make

  74. a comment here in the Amplified Classic in verse eleven,

  75. it's showing us about that process of maturing when the

  76. word says here, when we have been trained by the discipline,

  77. When we've been trained by the discipline, we reap a

  78. harvest of fruit to righteousness. And what that's saying. The

  79. scripture says here that it is in conformity. In other words,

  80. it conforms to God's will in purpose, in thought, and

  81. in action, which ultimately results in right living and right

  82. standing with God. So there is your key, so to

  83. speak about understanding this maturing process, because the maturing process

  84. is really conforming us believers to God's will, not just

  85. something ethereal out there what's God's will, but conforming us

  86. to God's will in purpose, to God's will in our thoughts,

  87. to God's will in our actions, which actually results in

  88. right living and right standing with God. Okay, let me

  89. read these same scriptures then in the New Living Translation,

  90. starting with verse five. This is Hebrews chapter twelve, verses

  91. five through eleven. I'm reading out of now the New

  92. Living Translation. And have you forgotten the encouraging words God

  93. spoke to you as his children. He said, my child,

  94. don't make light of the Lord's discipline, and don't give

  95. up when he corrects you. For the Lord disciplines those

  96. he loves, and he punishes each one he accepts as

  97. his child. Verse seven. As you endure this divine discipline.

  98. Remember that God is treating you as his own children.

  99. Who ever heard of a child who is never disciplined

  100. by its father. If God doesn't discipline you as he

  101. does all his children, it means that you are illegitimate

  102. and are not really his children at all. Since we

  103. respected our earthly fathers who disciplined us, shouldn't we submit

  104. even more to the discipline of the Father of our

  105. spirits and live forever for our earthly fathers disciplined us

  106. for a few years, doing the best that they knew,

  107. how But God's discipline. God's discipline is always good for us,

  108. so that we might share in his holiness. No discipline

  109. is enjoyable while it is happening. It's painful, but afterward

  110. there will be a peaceful harvest of right living for

  111. those who are trained in this way. So let me

  112. go back to the beginning here, starting with verse five,

  113. and the writer is addressing you know, he says my son,

  114. but in the New Living translation it's translated my which

  115. I think is a better translation right there, because we're

  116. not talking about the male gender. Okay, So when it

  117. says my son or it talks about God deals with

  118. you as with sons. He's not. The writer's not talking

  119. about the male gender. The writer is talking about children

  120. of God, male and female. So when he says my son,

  121. I like the New Living Translation, which says, my child,

  122. do not despise the chastening of the Lord. That chasening

  123. is discipline, the number one thing if you're going to

  124. mature properly as a believer in Christ, you don't want

  125. to despise his discipline. He's chastening. Now. He's going to

  126. discipline us. He has to because our human nature is

  127. contrary to God's nature and God's ways and God's will,

  128. and we still have this adamic nature working in us

  129. that we have to train, and the Lord has to

  130. discipline this behavior in us because Adam's nature tends to

  131. make us do anything and everything that's not of God,

  132. not God's ways, not God's nature. So when we're acting

  133. out in the flesh the nature of Adam is the

  134. nature of our flesh, then there's going to be discipline.

  135. There's going to be a chastening. Now, the writer says,

  136. but don't be discouraged when you are rebuked by the Lord.

  137. Don't get discouraged. Don't be like you know, because you've

  138. heard me say many times. If you listen to me

  139. when the Lord has disciplined me, you know, it's like

  140. he takes me to the woodshed. And I'm telling you

  141. he knows how to discipline so sweetly, so gently, and

  142. yet you get it. You understand that he is truly

  143. disciplining you. You know, I remember as a child, I

  144. remember being disciplined by my father with a strap bend

  145. over and ooh, yeah, it was painful. Like the scripture says,

  146. chastening is not joyful for the present, it's painful. Well,

  147. this was physically painful. A few cracks with the belt

  148. really did hurt. But the Lord says those that he

  149. loves this is key verse six. For whom the Lord loves,

  150. he disciplines. So you have to remember that when the

  151. Lord is disgiving you a discipline, or or he is,

  152. you know, chasing you, disciplining you, he really loves you.

  153. He really loves you. And if verse seven says, if

  154. you endure it, God is dealing with you as a

  155. child of God. Now in the New King James, it

  156. says he deals with you as sons. But again we're

  157. not talking male gender. We're talking male and female children

  158. of God. So if you endure the chasing and the discipline,

  159. God's dealing with you as a son or as a daughter.

  160. And the writer says, for what son or daughter is

  161. there whom a father doesn't chasen? Then he says in

  162. verse eight, but if you are now he flips it.

  163. If you endure it, he deals with you as a

  164. child of God. Verse eight says, but if you are

  165. without chasening, then you're illegitimate, and you're not a son.

  166. Do you know what that means? If you're illegitimate and

  167. not a son, then you're really not his. You're really

  168. not his. You're not a child of God. I don't

  169. know about you, but I don't want to be called illegitimate.

  170. I'm a son. I'm a daughter of Christ, and I

  171. hope you are too. And then verse nine furthermore, we've

  172. had human fathers who corrected us. Now in the day

  173. we live, there are a lot of human fathers who

  174. don't even discipline their children today. And that's why children

  175. run rampant. They you know, they are exceedingly rebellious because

  176. the father has not brought correction. The father has you

  177. know how many children in America today I don't know

  178. about the world, but in America today many children are

  179. father lives. Yes, so there is no father in the home.

  180. And then those who do have a father, many of

  181. these fathers are just not doing their job as a father.

  182. They're not disciplining their children or correcting their children. But

  183. like I would say, most of my generation growing up

  184. in the early fifties and sixties and seventies, our fathers,

  185. our human fathers, brought correction to us, and if you

  186. had any sense about you, you would pay them respect.

  187. So the writers saying, if your human father who brought

  188. correction to you and you paid respect to, wouldn't you

  189. more willingly, more readily tolerate and be in subjection to

  190. your heavenly father and live and live? That's that's key

  191. verse ten, For they indeed for a few days chasing

  192. who's he talking about? Heavenly? Are excuse me? Our earthly fathers,

  193. our earthly fathers out of the New Living translation for

  194. our earthly fathers disciplined us for a few years. Hey,

  195. they did the best they knew, how The scripture says,

  196. that is the truth. My father wasn't born again, you know,

  197. and his father ooh, was not not a good father

  198. at all. So my father, my earthly father, didn't have

  199. a good example for a father, so he just did

  200. the best he could. And I think for the most part,

  201. my earthly father did a pretty good job, considering that

  202. he didn't know Jesus. But it says, but God's discipline

  203. is always good for us, right, It's for our profit.

  204. When God brings discipline in your life, it's for your benefit,

  205. it's for your profit, it's for it's always good for us.

  206. That's what you have to remember. That's what you have

  207. to focus on. Because our heavenly Father is not in

  208. any way, shape or form like our earthly father. We

  209. can't compare them. People often do that. They often think

  210. that their heavenly father is somehow like what their earthly

  211. father was. So if their earthly father, you know, was

  212. a really bad father, they're going to have a hard

  213. time and struggle with their heavenly father and understanding how

  214. much our heavenly father loves us, how much our heavenly

  215. father's for us, how much your heavenly Father is disciplining

  216. us for our own benefit, for our profit, for our

  217. for our best, always doing good for us. There's never

  218. a negative when it comes to the heaven, to our

  219. heavenly Father disciplining us, chasing us, there's never a negative.

  220. There's nothing bad that's going to come out of that.

  221. That's what you have to grasp and understand, because look,

  222. if you endure it, then you're a son, you're a daughter.

  223. But if you don't, if there's no no chasing, no

  224. discipline comes in your life, you're illegitimate and you're not

  225. a child of the living God. And of course verse

  226. eleven says, like I said earlier, there's no discipline that

  227. seems joyful. You're never gonna like have a happy face.

  228. Oh yes, please come discipline me, Lord, Come, yes, I'm

  229. ready for the discipline. I'm I'm just a happy camper

  230. waiting to be disciplined. No, there's it's not joyful for

  231. the present, and it may feel painful. One thing about it,

  232. The Lord is not going to cause physical pain to

  233. you at all. Ever, there will be no physical pain

  234. when the Lord disciplines you, not like your earthly father.

  235. But here's what's going to happen. The scripture said, it's

  236. going to to yield the peaceable fruit of righteousness to

  237. those who have been trained by it. And the New

  238. Living translation says, but afterward there will be a peace

  239. full harvest of right living by those who are trained

  240. in this way. In other words, what this chasing does

  241. is it gets us and keeps us on the track

  242. of right living. So if we're trained in this and

  243. we allow and endure the chasing of our heavenly Father,

  244. we're trained this way, we're allowing him to train us

  245. this way, we're allowing him to bring discipline in our life.

  246. Then it's going to bring forth a peaceful harvest of

  247. right living. We are going to as let me go

  248. back to the amplified classic, and it says, but afterwards

  249. it yields a peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who

  250. have been trained by it, which means it's a harvest

  251. of fruit which consists in righteousness, which is in conformity

  252. to God's will in purpose, in thought, and in action,

  253. resulting in right living and right standing with God. It

  254. really doesn't get any better than that. Let me just say,

  255. it just doesn't get better than that, because there's a benefit.

  256. Do you see if you can endure the chasening as

  257. a sign as a daughter, there's a huge, not just

  258. a tiny benefit here. This is a huge benefit. You

  259. have to understand this, because this is a huge benefit

  260. to you and I, because it will conform us, because

  261. we're being trained by it. It's going to conform us

  262. to God's will and our purposes in our thoughts and

  263. our actions, and then we're going to have right living,

  264. righteous living, and we're going to have right standing with God.

  265. Let me conclude with what James wrote in chapter five,

  266. starting starting with verse seven, James writes, Therefore, be patient, brethren,

  267. until the coming of the Lord. See how the farmer

  268. waits for the precious fruit of the earth, waiting patiently

  269. for it until it receives the early and latter reign.

  270. You also be patient, establish your hearts, for the coming

  271. of the Lord is at hand. Do not grumble against

  272. one another, brethren, lest to be condemned. Behold, the Judge

  273. is standing at the door. My brethren. Take the prophets

  274. who spoke in the name of the Lord as an

  275. example of suffering and patience. Indeed, we count them blessed

  276. who endure. You've heard of the perseverance of job and

  277. seen the end intended by the Lord. That the Lord

  278. is very compassionate and merciful. So in this set of scriptures.

  279. The Lord is using an example talking about the prophets.

  280. First of all, you know, telling us look at their lives,

  281. look at what they went through, look at what they suffered,

  282. look at the patience that they had to endure and

  283. the discipline they had to endure. And then he talks

  284. about the perseverance of Job and all the Job endured.

  285. And guess what, it was intended by the Lord to

  286. bring a great end to Job's life. So there was

  287. an intention, and because Job endured the discipline and the punishment,

  288. he had a great ending. It says in the scripture

  289. here he saw the end intended by the Lord. That

  290. the Lord is very compassionate and merciful. So just when

  291. you think that you can't endure this anymore, you have

  292. to remember God's word. The Lord is very compassionate and

  293. very merciful to you. Amen. So we will as believers.

  294. I just conclude with this, we are going to persevere.

  295. We're gonna stay steadfast in the love of God. We're

  296. gonna endure that chastening so that we can be called

  297. the sons of God, the daughters of God, the children

  298. of God. Amen. And we our lives will conform to

  299. God's will in purpose, thought, and action, resulting in right

  300. living and right standing with God. Amen. Well, this is

  301. Don Noble. You can go to www dot pureheart dot

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  313. you again next week. This is Don Noble saying, shall oam, shalloam?

  314. Peace be unto you