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  1. You're listening to a message to go from acts church.

  2. We hope this message will light up your day.

  3. All right, come, let's go into the word. Okay. And

  4. and as we know, church, we have been in this

  5. whole series of discipleship. Yeah, and that's the team that

  6. God has given to us, not just for this year specifically,

  7. but it's just that it's always been in the heart

  8. of our church. We believe in building disciples because that's

  9. what Jesus has taught us to his word. Right when

  10. the very first thing that he did when he was

  11. on land was he first chose his disciples, right. That

  12. is the sermon that you heard the other day when

  13. I preached that, he actually went to different ones and

  14. said follow me. Right. We watched that that short video

  15. the other day, and the disciples did the same to

  16. the others as well. Right. And so it's actually if

  17. you look at how Jesus, you know, call these disciples,

  18. he made it very simple. Again, he was just being

  19. faithful in what he was called to do, and he

  20. was doing the same for the others, and the others

  21. did the same to the rest. Okay. And so it's

  22. a lot about what Paul tells us in the scriptures

  23. imitate me as I imitate Christ. And so Christ has

  24. always has always been our role model, okay, the one

  25. that we look to, not on men, but to God himself. Right.

  26. So for today's message, okay, we're going to go into

  27. discipleship as well. And I'm going to draw from John

  28. fifteen okay, where Jesus tells us about being the wine. Okay,

  29. this is the I MS Okay, And as we read

  30. this portion, you will see that Jesus actually tells that,

  31. you know, you've got to abide in me, Okay, if not,

  32. you'll not be able to bear fruit. And then the

  33. scripture goes on that you know we are called to

  34. be his disciples. Yeah, so let's just start with reading

  35. a scripture here if you have your Bible so you

  36. can and turned with me to John fifteen one to eight. Right,

  37. John fifteen is it in the Old Testament or New Testament?

  38. Just checking? Okay? So John fifteen versus one on wits Okay,

  39. I'm reading from the NKJV version, So let's just go

  40. through together, Okay. So it says here from verse one,

  41. I am the true wine, and my father is the

  42. wine dresser. Every branch in me that does not bear

  43. fruit he takes away, and every branch that bears fruit

  44. he proves that it may bear more fruit. You are

  45. already clean because of the word which I have spoken

  46. to you. Abide in me and I in you. As

  47. the brunch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it abides

  48. in the wine, neither can you unless you abide in me.

  49. Was fine. If I am the wine, you are the branches.

  50. He who abides in me and I in him bears

  51. much fruit. For without me you can do nothing. If

  52. anyone does not abide in me, he is cast out

  53. as a branch and is with it. And they gather

  54. them and show them into the fire, and they are burned.

  55. If you abide in me and my words abide in you,

  56. you will ask what you desire, and it shall be

  57. done for you. By this, my Father is glorified that

  58. you bear much fruit, so you will be my disciples. Amen.

  59. So it's just a beautiful passage of how Jesus tells

  60. us to abide in him. That's the that is how

  61. it all starts, right. That is the root of what

  62. we need to first get the foundation, and then from

  63. there it says that we are called is disciples. Right.

  64. Of course, we all know the greatest commission that God

  65. has called us to do is to make disciples. Okay,

  66. what he started off with we continue. Yeah, So when

  67. we speak about discipleship, it's not about something that we Okay,

  68. as long as you're attending church and you have a

  69. leader before above you, you know to look out and

  70. then you you know, be accountable. Okay, that's discipleship, right.

  71. It doesn't just sometimes we get so caught up with systems. Okay, well,

  72. this is how you do it, right. You look out

  73. for this person, you message them, and they don't come

  74. to church. Is that what discipleship is all about. I

  75. think it's more than that, right, Discipleship is meant for

  76. us to be able to start abiding on the true source. Okay.

  77. But the problem is sometimes when we look to men

  78. for everything for the source. Yeah, and when men fails us,

  79. well men can fail us, right, our faith is shaken, right,

  80. and then we begin to question God, what is going

  81. on you know, or what am I even believing? And

  82. then we choose to move further.

  83. Right.

  84. But when we get things right at the very start

  85. of our fate and know that our true source is

  86. founded in Jesus himself, like the Word of God says

  87. the true wine, then everything else falls in place. And

  88. so I think it's important that when we understand the

  89. importance of abiding in Christ, we get the essence of discipleship.

  90. You know, we can go on preaching many messages. In fact,

  91. you have been if you have been attending church with

  92. us for a while now, every other speaker has been

  93. preaching about discipleship, right, But if you don't get the

  94. root or the essence of why Jesus wants this for us,

  95. we will never get the idea of why we need

  96. to be disciples or to even disciple artists. So from

  97. this scripture, yes we read, okay, we can see that

  98. in John fifteen, for okay, it says he abide in

  99. me and I in you, as the branch cannot bear fruit.

  100. Very clear. It doesn't say maybe you can't bear fruit.

  101. Yeah I think you on bafforuit, but it says you can't.

  102. It's very straightforward. The world of God is very direct. Okay.

  103. We know that the would have God penetrates to our hearts,

  104. to our souls, right, and this is what the scripture

  105. tells us. It's simple as that if you don't abide

  106. in Jesus. If you don't look to him and you

  107. don't have a relationship with him constantly communicating with him,

  108. you just can't bear fruit. Okay. There's only that much

  109. of things that we can do as humans. Yeah. And

  110. so when we look at the word abide, okay, it

  111. actually originates from Greek when it says men o, okay,

  112. men o, your means to stay, yeah, to stay, to

  113. remain and to wait again, that is the root word

  114. of abiding. Right, So it means Jesus wants us to

  115. stay put and they're seeking him, you know, to wait

  116. on him. There's so many scriptures, right when we read

  117. the Bible, it talks about waiting on the lords. Yeah,

  118. but I'm sure when we hear these words, it's not

  119. something that some would want to do because we are

  120. so constantly on the move, right, we want to get

  121. things done, We want to go on the get go,

  122. especially if you're an active person. Right. But the truth

  123. is actually is about waiting. And of course this word

  124. waiting is not a passive word. It is an actionist

  125. by itself. For someone who can wait on God, it

  126. just means that you truly just have the patience to

  127. see and hear what is God's will and not just mine.

  128. And to me, I feel that takes more discipline because

  129. it's so easy for us to do what we want

  130. to do, right, But it takes courage, It takes strength

  131. to take a step back and say no, Lord, I

  132. think I rather just wait and see what you are

  133. telling me before I take this decision, you know, or

  134. before I go to this place. Right. So this is

  135. what Jesus wants for us to remain and to wait

  136. on him. So connection with God is a very deep

  137. personal relationship. Yeah, it is something only you and God,

  138. you know, can feel. And for those of you have

  139. your devotion, your personal encounter with God, you know what

  140. it means like right, just sitting in His presence, seeking

  141. His face. And when we talk about seeking God, I

  142. know sometimes in the church were always taught about, okay,

  143. having a specific time of your devotion, which is important definitely,

  144. whether it's in the mornings or the night, right. But

  145. I think what's important is that we can abide the

  146. name throughout the day, right, So, meaning you can just

  147. constantly comminate to God. Because we know that our fate

  148. is not just a religion where we are restricted to rituals.

  149. You have to sit down and pray in a certain manner.

  150. Of course, your heart poisono is important.

  151. Right.

  152. You don't have to look at a specific place to pray, right,

  153. but you can just go to your room, have that

  154. quiet time and speak to God. And even in your

  155. daily life when you're driving, when you're in class or

  156. at work, just constantly cultivating the presence of God. Right.

  157. And I think that's key because the Holy Spirit is

  158. always trying to find ways to minister to us. And

  159. you know, we have the direct access. You don't need

  160. another pastor to be in the middle to get to God.

  161. You have direct access to Jesus and stuff. Yeah. And

  162. so that is what remaining and waiting means, where you

  163. can constantly be in the presence of God. Yeah. And

  164. you know, when we read Collisions one twenty three, Okay,

  165. it says, if indeed you continue in the faith, grounded

  166. and steadfast, and not moved away from the hope of

  167. the Gospel which you heard, which was pressed to every

  168. creature under heaven, of which I Paul became a minister.

  169. And so Paul reminds us in the Book of Collusion

  170. to be grounded in our faith to be stepfast and

  171. to not move away. So it all goes back to

  172. our foundation. Right. Life can come through different waves to

  173. different you know, different direction, but if we know what

  174. we're grounded on, nothing can shake us. Yeah. As humans,

  175. you can feel emotional, you can have your downtimes, but

  176. then your faith is not shaken. Okay, And I think

  177. that is the key, no matter what age you could be,

  178. young or old, Let's cultivate that strong foundation in waiting

  179. in him. Amen. So now we're gonna talk a little

  180. bit about you know, what are some of the traits

  181. of a disciple. Yeah, when you look at someone, okay,

  182. how do you know that this person is truly a

  183. disciple of God? You know, and you're doing what the

  184. scriptures have told us, right, And so I think we

  185. have got to understand that. Of course, the first thing

  186. the scripture tells us is about remaining waiting in Him.

  187. And the other thing that the scripture teaches us here

  188. is that every disciple goes through pruning. Right, every disciple

  189. goes through pruning. Have you gone through that? Those pruning? Right?

  190. When we say use the word pruning here, it just

  191. means it's painful, Okay, pruning is never you can ever

  192. sugar coote the word okay, because you need to see

  193. this to do pruning. If you do gardening, you know

  194. what this means. Right, And as we read earlier this

  195. this word's two okay. The word specifically says that every

  196. branch in me that does not bare fruit, he takes away. Okay,

  197. I think this is important for us to pay attention.

  198. If you don't bear fruit, it takes away. And every

  199. run that bears fruit, he prunes that it may bear

  200. more fruit. So if you're bearing fruit, why do you

  201. think God still needs to prune you. That's what we

  202. may think. Right, I'm doing the right thing. I am

  203. seeing fruits being bad. But then the scripture tells us

  204. that then even more you'll be prune. Yeah. And I

  205. think when I was just reading this scripture, I was

  206. just reminded that pruning always gets us back to God.

  207. It always brings us back to abiding Him. So though

  208. you have been serving, you know, though you have been

  209. experiencing God and bearing fruits, but then again the pruning God,

  210. I mean, God knows us more than anyone else. He

  211. brings the proning again to say, okay, okay, maybe you're

  212. going to your direction because you're doing this by yourself

  213. all these years, and you kind of know how things work.

  214. But let me remind you again, who's your true sauce,

  215. who's your true wine? Yeah, And so if you're going

  216. through pruning and you're life, if you're going through those

  217. painful moments, let me just encourage you by saying that

  218. it is all right. Yeah, because that's just sometimes how

  219. God works to bring us back to Him, because sometimes

  220. we can go too far away, even within the church. Yeah,

  221. even within the church, we can just so get get

  222. so caught up with serving. But do we have our devotion?

  223. Do we have our quiet time with Him?

  224. Right?

  225. And so God causes those pruning to bring us back

  226. to him. Yeah. When you speak about pruning, okay, there

  227. are different methods if you read up about it, you know,

  228. they call it the cane spruning, spurs spruning, and each

  229. of it has its own tools to be used, you know.

  230. And and the goal of doing I mean to prune

  231. is actually to just cause more butts for flowers to

  232. grow and from their fruits to be to be but

  233. fought as well. Yeah. And when we speak about secifically,

  234. of course the Scripture talks about wine. Here, it's important

  235. to prune grape wines because that's the very first step

  236. towards wine making. So people enjoy the end result the wine,

  237. But little do we know that the pruning has to

  238. take place to get there. Okay, and sometimes we just

  239. see the end product, but there is a process that

  240. brings us there. Yeah. Pruning is also the process of

  241. removing the old or the date wood, because when a

  242. wine is growing on a date wood, it stops. Okay,

  243. it can grow continuously because the wood is already too old.

  244. And so what the gardeners, you know, those who are

  245. in charge of you know, these plants, what they do

  246. is they'll actually remove those old wood and to make

  247. sure the new ones are growing. Yeah, and I can't

  248. just help, but think about sometimes our lie own lives

  249. as well. Sometimes we hold on to the ole mindsets,

  250. we hold on to the old perspectives, right, But God

  251. sometimes wants to do a new work in you. He

  252. wants you to bring He wants to bring you into

  253. a new environment, a clear perspective, a new heart. Sometimes

  254. we can be holding baggages, disappointments, of frustrations. Those are

  255. all things. But if you bring it on with us

  256. now it will affect what God is doing. So He's

  257. trying to do things in your life. But because the

  258. oil is still there, the new confer. Right, that is

  259. why sometimes wines don't grow well because it just stuck,

  260. gets stuck. Okay, it doesn't remain on the new wine. Yeah.

  261. And so that is why you know, Jesus uses this

  262. example to just remind us what it means to actually

  263. abide on the true wine. Yeah. And when you think

  264. about your life, okay, when you think about how your

  265. journey has been with God, whether you've been serving, you've

  266. been coming to church for a while now, or you

  267. could have been a new believer, how has God been

  268. working in you?

  269. Right?

  270. How have you seen the work of hand I mean

  271. the work of God or his hands in your life? Right?

  272. Those moments when you had that were a little bit low, okay,

  273. or maybe it could be that season for you even

  274. now the pruning is happening. What do you think God

  275. is teaching you? And sometimes it's hard to see that

  276. that lesson, like because I'm in pain, right, I can't

  277. quite understand or comprehend what I'm going through. You may

  278. be the idea is to just remain in God right,

  279. to remain to wait on him and in due time

  280. you'll answer your prayers. Yeah, that is pruning right. And

  281. you know when we talk about pruning here, okay, just

  282. too questions for you to think about. You know, how

  283. has God been pruning our lives today? Yeah? Think about it.

  284. Sometimes it's just good to reflect on what's happening within this.

  285. You know, whether it's at your workplace, your family, How

  286. has God been pruning our lives? And what do you

  287. think are the results of this pruning? Right? And to

  288. me personally, I see that pruning is what causes growth

  289. to happen, right, Because sometimes it takes you out of

  290. somewhere and puts you here though it's painful, right, Or

  291. it takes out different people, you know, different situations, circumstances.

  292. But then again, when you are where God positions you,

  293. you see a growth taking place, right or sometimes a

  294. greater focus. There can be so many things running in

  295. our minds. There's so many kind of old wines and

  296. they keep growing. But God causes those pruning so that

  297. we can gain clarity in our minds, can be more

  298. present and focus on what He wants us to do. Yeah.

  299. So think about it. What is it that God may

  300. be pruning in your lives? And what could the results be?

  301. And if you've had seen those results, then share it

  302. to someone right that God brought me out of it

  303. and He has given me this freedom to experience when

  304. you read Matthew thirteen. Okay, just quoting a scripture from

  305. Matthew thirteen twelve. For whoever has to him more will

  306. be given, and he will have abundance. But whoever does

  307. not have, even what he has will be taken away

  308. from him. Yeah, and I think this is a a

  309. I imagine as a serious stone. You know, well, you've

  310. got to do something with what I'm giving you. Right,

  311. So the talents that God gives us, the abilities, sometimes

  312. even in the form of time, whatever it is, if

  313. we don't use it, the scripture tells us that even

  314. that it will be removed from us. So my question

  315. and encouragement for all of us this morning is what

  316. are we doing with what He has given to us?

  317. Because if we are truly called these disciples, it's an

  318. it's a lifestyle. We've got to leave it out right.

  319. And if you have the ability to speak to people,

  320. to connect, but if you're not doing that well, The

  321. people that is in your life may not always be there.

  322. There might be somewhere else. Right, So God wants us

  323. to be faithful what we have. If you want to

  324. experience more, you've got to do with what you have

  325. in hand. Yeah. If if He's given to you a talent,

  326. use it. Don't just keep it to yourself and be

  327. proud about it. No one, no one can see it, right,

  328. And God maybe just nudging you and saying, hey, what

  329. can you use this ability that I've given to you?

  330. You can sing so well, right, you can play the instruments,

  331. you could cook so well, whatever it is, right, how

  332. can we use this talents to glorify God? Because true

  333. disciples would do that, right, And that is what Jesus

  334. himself was doing when he was on land. He was

  335. constantly serving people, right, we know the story of how

  336. we went and even washed the feet of his disciples.

  337. That was who our God, Jesus is. Right. He was

  338. not someone who I am the leader and you know,

  339. everyone do the work right, but he was the one

  340. who modeled it out. He showed it, and he constantly

  341. told these disciples, do as what I did, Do as

  342. what I did. So if we are called his disciples?

  343. Are we doing what He has told us to do?

  344. Having a servant heart, going the extra mouth of someone

  345. loving them Though it can be difficult to love, to

  346. forgive freely, right, Jesus is someone who forgive freely. Yeah?

  347. What is it that God may be giving you a

  348. nuts this morning, or He has been nudging you maybe,

  349. but you're just saying stay away from me, or it's

  350. not from God. Well, you know yourself if you've had

  351. that relationship with God. Yeah, So let's use what we

  352. have today. Yeah, don't just wait for tomorrow. Do it

  353. now in whatever capacity you have. You know God, it

  354. is never about comparing. Right. You may have the more time,

  355. or you may have more resources, whatever it is, but

  356. just use it for God's glory. Amen. So this's the

  357. first in the two points that we can hear. First see, right,

  358. disciples remain in God. I think that's key. Yeah. And

  359. of course disciples goes through pruning. It's normal if you're

  360. going through challenges. It's just I mean, it just means

  361. that God is doing something in your lives. Yeah. And

  362. of course the next thing that we can see from

  363. the stript just is that disciples bear fruit right, disciples

  364. bear fruit. If you plant a cherry tree or a

  365. Dourian tree, what fruit do you think is going to bear?

  366. You put the seeds of a Dorian tree, then you're

  367. going to get Dorian. Of course, if something else comes out,

  368. something is wrong. Right. So if we are called disciples

  369. of Jesus, what fruits are we bearing? It has to

  370. be fruits of Jesus, right, It has to be like him.

  371. But if it's some other fruit, then I think it's

  372. good to have a heart check. And sometimes, like I said,

  373. if you're not careful enough, it can happen to even

  374. believer us ourselves because our focus is not abiding on God.

  375. We are abiding on other things. Sometimes it can be

  376. abiding on men. But our true disciple is Jesus. And

  377. if we are truly following him, and when we are

  378. leading others, then the fruits that we are bearing has

  379. to be of him. Yeah, has to be of him.

  380. We see this in the same chapter fifteen, right, it

  381. says two times yeah. In verse two. First, it says

  382. every branch in me that does not bare fruit, he

  383. takes away, and every branch that bears fruit he prunes

  384. that you will bear more fruits. That's his plan. Yeah,

  385. and then when we see verse five, I am the wine,

  386. You are the branches. He who abides in me and

  387. I in him bears much fruit. For without me you

  388. can do nothing. So if something is being repeated, meaning

  389. this is Jesus's plan that he wants us to bear

  390. fruit right the moment we stay stagnant, especially in our faith.

  391. You know, we just go to church, normal routine every

  392. other day, and we don't see things happen. How do

  393. you think you'd feel? Why is God not moving in

  394. my life? Is there even a God? Yeah, it's normal

  395. to feel like that. As a human, right, we are

  396. created to create, right, we are created to dream, We

  397. are created to achieve things, even in the smallest way.

  398. We are created to have relationships, to do life. So

  399. meaning God's intention has always been for us to be fruitful,

  400. to do things, to be active. But if we remain

  401. stagnant in our faith, then that's our emotions are going

  402. to be stagnant. We become so numb we don't know

  403. how to feel, We don't know how to respond or

  404. what's my expression like? So that's why one of the

  405. first things that we teach little children in school is expression. Actually, right,

  406. how do you look happy? How do you look sad?

  407. Because that's how God created us to be, to constantly

  408. be alive, active, and to respond. Yeah, to respond. How

  409. many of you are here this morning responding? Okay, responding

  410. to the word of God. Okay. So discipleship is not

  411. just an abstract concept, but it is a practical outworking

  412. of our relationship with God. Now, if you have a

  413. relationship with Him, automatically, you'll see things happen. Yeah, you

  414. will see people noticing things in your life. You look

  415. different because you know the way you speak, the way

  416. you respond, That shows that God is working in you. Yeah.

  417. And like I said, we're all made differently, we all

  418. have different abilities. Right. So when we speak about fruit, right,

  419. being fruitful, being able to bear fruit, there are there

  420. are few things that we can take note. One of

  421. it is, of course, making disciples. Yeah, that is one

  422. way of bearing fruit. So now that I've experienced the goodness,

  423. I have a relationship with God, I have someone who

  424. is discipling me, and then now I disciple others. Okay,

  425. So that's one fruit. The other fruit that the scripture

  426. teaches us here is that each of us are gifted Okay,

  427. we can look at the scriptures in Romans twelve versus

  428. six to eight. Yeah, it talks about how we are

  429. all given different roles, different abilities. Right, Some are able

  430. to prophesy, some are able to serve, others to teach,

  431. to encourage. You know, encouragement is a gift to spell.

  432. So if you're good with your words, if you can

  433. just send an encouragement to someone, you are cultivating the

  434. gift that God has given to you. Generous giving, diligence, leadership, cheerful, mercy,

  435. and many others that we can read from the scripture. Yeah,

  436. and which of this do you think the gifts that

  437. you may have? Okay, And if you have not found out,

  438. then I think it's good to start thinking about it.

  439. Sometimes these are things that people may tell a you're

  440. good in this, you're good in teaching, or you're good

  441. in encouraging, right, Or sometimes you could just ask God, God,

  442. I want to serve you, what are my gifts? What

  443. are my abilities? And it's not about figuring out then

  444. doing it, but it's just getting started somewhere and then

  445. down the road you'll realize that, Okay, this is a

  446. gift that I see myself having okay, and I can

  447. do it more for God. Right, So that is one

  448. type of fruit that we can bear. The other fruit

  449. that the Bible teaches us is from Galicians five twenty two, right,

  450. twenty two to twenty three, you know where we have

  451. this list of fruits of the spirit, love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness,

  452. and self control. Right. So if you don't have a

  453. goal set in your mind, then maybe this can be

  454. your goal.

  455. Right.

  456. How can I cultivate love in my lives? Okay? Not

  457. just love for people like or maybe people that God

  458. has brought to my life. That is that I've not

  459. learned how to love yet, right, And you know, how

  460. can I ultivate joy? You know, joy itself is a

  461. lesson by itself. We won't go through a sermon because

  462. joy comes from God. It's not something that the world

  463. can give us. That is why the scripture teaches us

  464. that the joy of the Lord is our strength, right,

  465. it is our strength. You know peace, If you want peace,

  466. you're looking for peace. It's a gift. But it's a

  467. matter of whether we switch the that switch of peace

  468. in our lives. Right forbearns, goodness, faithfulness, self control. Yeah,

  469. so again a hard check. You know, how far if

  470. I come with the gifts that God has given? Because

  471. when when the scriptures mentions it, meaning it is made

  472. available for us. But it's the matter of whether I

  473. want to have access to it, right, Remember, God gives

  474. us a free will. If I want it, I'm going

  475. to leave it out. Men, So think about it, right,

  476. how can I bear some of these fruits of you

  477. know that God has made available to us? And then

  478. as we read the scriptures okay, of course, the last

  479. portion okay of this passage, we can see that it

  480. says in verse eight, by this, my Father is glorified

  481. that you bear much fruit, so you will be my disciples. Yeah,

  482. you will be my disciples. So it just means that

  483. as we are having this relationship with God, as we're

  484. abiding in him, are we actually making disciples? Right? Are

  485. we making disciples? First? Corentents fifteen two imitate me, just

  486. as also I imitate Christ. So you're not coming up

  487. with your own structure, your own strategy, but you're just

  488. following the strategy or what Jesus has taught you. And

  489. then you bring it on to artists. Yeah, So it's

  490. that is discipleship. At the end of the day, it

  491. is about being able to do it for others as well. Right.

  492. And when I reflect on, you know, my journey of

  493. being in discipleship, you know, of course, it goes a

  494. long way from being a student, right. And I remember

  495. that my very first leader who approached me when I

  496. was very new in church, she told to me, a

  497. why you know, do you know what discipleship is all about?

  498. Of course, being very young at that time, I said, yes,

  499. I have read it in the scriptures, but not quite

  500. understand the concept, right. And so then she said, well,

  501. discipleship is just basically us following Jesus, right, modeling out

  502. everything that he has taught us in the scripture. Would

  503. you be interested to be in such a relationship?

  504. Right?

  505. And then she said, let's take baby steps to get

  506. to know each other. Okay, That's how it started, and

  507. then till today.

  508. Right.

  509. And of course I had different leaders, you know, because

  510. they were overseas and things like that. But every leader

  511. that I realized that I had that relationship with was

  512. just interested to do life. I think it just goes

  513. back to them, you know. It's not so much about

  514. how much or how many meals can we have, you know,

  515. or how many how much of time can we spend.

  516. It's not about that, but whether you are just intentional, like, hey,

  517. I really want to get to know you. I really

  518. want to do life with you because we can grow

  519. together in God. Okay, And discipleship is meant to be together.

  520. It's not just someone always telling you and instructing you.

  521. But you have all the assays to pray for the

  522. person as well to do the journey with them. Yeah.

  523. And you know, when someone approaches you for discipleship or

  524. when you even have the heart or desire to be

  525. in that relationship, it's not so much about just a

  526. personal decision, but I believe it's an intention that God

  527. has to bring us through our life as well. Yeah,

  528. and I'm glad that I made those decisions to do

  529. life the journey with different ones because then few years

  530. down the road, when you think about it, you'll say, Okay,

  531. now I know why this happened, because I needed this

  532. person to be there to journey with me. Right. And

  533. sometimes at the start we think that, oh it's gonna

  534. be tough, I'm going to be always needing to be

  535. with this person, to check with them well, we're all adults.

  536. First of all, we're not trying to babysit anyone. That's

  537. not discipleship. Yeah, but it's about doing it together. Yeah,

  538. doing it together. And so you know, a few years

  539. down the road, of course, being in ministry and all that,

  540. I remember I was in I was part of another leader, right,

  541. and she had to go to Melbourne, and so then

  542. passes Sendra approached me, right, approached me, and so the

  543. conversation that we had was very clear in my mind. Again,

  544. she told me that, you know, I prayed about this,

  545. so you know, discipleship is about praying. It's not just

  546. you picking anyone. Yeah, I prayed about this, and I

  547. felt that it would be good for us to have

  548. this discipleship relationship going on so we can go deeper. Yeah,

  549. going deeper. And when she said that, actually a few

  550. weeks ago, I was thinking of that, got just impressed

  551. it in my heart. But I just didn't know when

  552. or how you know that there will be this continuity past.

  553. And I've learned so much over the years with her, right,

  554. She's been very real. Most of us may know Passandra

  555. as someone who preaches, especially in cheras. You know, we

  556. may not have you know, know her as a person, right,

  557. but beyond that, I feel I've known her as just

  558. a human. You know how she makes mistakes, how she

  559. has grown out of it, how she depends on God.

  560. You know how she comes out of the challenging times.

  561. And those are the things that have spoken to me,

  562. because discipleship is not about just sharing the good times,

  563. but He's also sharing those moments that are tough, right,

  564. And then when you go through those times, you'll think about, Ay,

  565. I'm not the only one. Someone went through that as well,

  566. and now I can't do it, I think. Yeah. So,

  567. if you're in a discipleship ministry, I mean a relationship,

  568. it is about being real. It's about being honest. Yeah.

  569. If you want to just get into it for the

  570. sake of it's all, it's a high thing. Now, please don't. Yeah,

  571. because it's about being intentional. And that is how intentional

  572. Jesus was when he chose his disciples. He didn't choose

  573. great people that were out there. He chose the usual

  574. fishermen who were just doing what they were doing every

  575. other day, and he approached them. He went to them.

  576. It's not them who came to them, but to Jesus right.

  577. Jesus went to them and saw something in them, Yeah,

  578. saw something in them that speaks so much about Jesus.

  579. And every time I read that scripture, I'm just reminded

  580. of how great our God is. Where he can leave

  581. aside everything as a son of God and come down

  582. in humbleness and do life with people. And he journeyed

  583. through with them. Yeah, he journeyed true with them, and

  584. they could say yes because they know they knew who

  585. Jesus was, they knew his intention, his heart right. And

  586. I think it's a good reflection for all of us,

  587. even our leaders here. Yeah, when you're reaching out to someone,

  588. are we being genuine about it? Are we truly want

  589. to wanting to do life with that person? Mean it?

  590. Because Jesus definitely wants to do life with us. That

  591. is why he starts off the scripture here by saying, first,

  592. abiding me, Because if you're going to lead others from

  593. an empty vessel, it's not going to work just because

  594. I can talk, just because I can lead, I'm going

  595. to disciple someone. That's not how it works. But Jesus says,

  596. you've got to start with me first, and if you

  597. can experience his love, you can experience how great it is.

  598. It will be too good for you to keep it

  599. to yourself. Right, It's just simple as that, because you

  600. know this is what God has given to me. It

  601. is because of Him I have hope. It is because

  602. of Him I am who I am today, and that

  603. therefore I want others to experience that. Right. And so

  604. let's start with the true wine first. Right, let's start

  605. with the true wine. And wherever that God is brought

  606. into your life, as pask the Lord, how can I

  607. sow into that person? Yeah? How can I sow into

  608. that person? Because that is how, as the Bible says,

  609. the church grew the Book of X. It's not so

  610. much about how great the church looks like or how

  611. many musicians we have, but it is about how many

  612. disciples we can grow. Yeah, because I always believe that

  613. nothing is permanent. Right, nothing is permanent. Some of you

  614. could be called to be somewhere else, to plant something else.

  615. But what we can do now is to disciple whoever

  616. that comes to our lives and so that they can

  617. bring that same thing somewhere else, to that nation, to

  618. that place, to that community, and build more disciples. That

  619. is how multiplication happened in the time of X. How

  620. do you think the church grew right because they came together,

  621. they pray, they shed meals, And to me, that is

  622. discipleship right. You just have genuine conversation, you talk about life,

  623. you cry together, you love together, and that's how you

  624. build each other as well. But the question just goes

  625. back to whether do I want to come out of

  626. my own life and do it for others? Yeah, because

  627. it takes love. It takes love, it takes compassion, it

  628. takes out, it takes us out of the my needs

  629. and to saying yes, I want to love someone else

  630. as well, because God loves me so much that he

  631. sent his one and on listen. Yeah, come on, church God,

  632. it's just too good to keep to ourselves. Yeah, we

  633. don't have much time. Let's just do all that we

  634. can to bring the gospel, to be His witness in

  635. any capacity that you can, and to just bring him

  636. the glory. Yeah. I'm very passionate about this because I've

  637. seen how God has been working in me through this

  638. as well. Yeah, and I want that for you to

  639. experience the more of what God has and to just

  640. not stay put and keep comparing what's not right, what's

  641. wrong never ends. Yeah, let's focus what's important, what's priority,

  642. and let's just do that. Yeah, let's just do that. Amen. Right,

  643. hope you're doing some good and catching something out of this. Yeah.

  644. The word of God is meant to be practical. And

  645. so when you go back this week, think about it.

  646. You know, how can I disciple others? How can I

  647. abide in God? To remain in him? And you say

  648. remaining and you say abiding? What does it look like

  649. for you? Where can you start?

  650. Right?

  651. Is it your prayer time? Is it just spending a

  652. little bit more conversation with him? Is it about just

  653. obeying him? It could mean very different for all of

  654. us because we are at different pace of our journey. Right,

  655. but ask yourself, how can I remain in Him a

  656. little bit more this week? How can I be His

  657. disciples and to bring that good news to artists as well? Amen?

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  662. hit for you, God, bless