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Follow Me as I follow Christ | Pr. Alvin Keng

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  1. You're listening to a message to go from axt church.

  2. We hope this message will light up your day.

  3. But yeah, you know, it's a pleasure to be here. Uh.

  4. And I think I can't remember when it's the last

  5. time I came. I think the last time I came

  6. you were not around, you know. Yeah, yeah, but I

  7. can't remember when.

  8. But I was good.

  9. It's good to see some of you here. I see

  10. some familiar faces. I see some unfamiliar faces.

  11. Uh. You know, but I think I'm the new Kamala. Yeah.

  12. So my name is Alvin. I'm glad to be here.

  13. I'll just get straight into the word and then we'll

  14. see where this goes. Okay, So if you're writing notes,

  15. the message title this morning is follow Me, not the

  16. hair shampoo. Follow me for those who are old enough

  17. to know. If you're young, you probably will know. H

  18. still God, but people don't use it anymore. But last

  19. time it was very famous.

  20. Follow me. Uh.

  21. And the subtitle is fellowshiping, communicating and having communion with God.

  22. Right fellowshipping, communicating and having community. How many if you

  23. want to fellowship, communicate and have community in God? Okay,

  24. I can see some. I'm not sure, it's okay, okay.

  25. First Corinthians eleven.

  26. First Coristians eleven, Chapter one says, imitate me as I

  27. imitate Christ. Right, very famous scripture. We all hear it,

  28. you know, some of us. We we fear and traveling.

  29. Sometimes very hard to say, you know, but Paul confidently said,

  30. imitate me as I immediate Christ. You know, he wants

  31. to follow Christ. And you know Jesus asks it is

  32. able to follow him? Right, And we're going to read

  33. a little bit about that. So Matthew chapter four, verse

  34. eighteen to twenty. Men, Matthew, chapter four, verse eighteen to twenty.

  35. What does it say.

  36. It says, here and Jesus, walking by the sea of Galilee,

  37. sat brothers. Simon called Peter and Andrew his brother. So

  38. they were brothers, okay, casting a net into the sea,

  39. for they were fishermen. Then he said to them, follow me,

  40. and I will make you fishers of men. They immediately

  41. left their nets and follow him. Wow, just drop everything

  42. and just follow right. How many of you know that?

  43. You know, if that happened today, it's like what Jason says,

  44. a scam. You know he's a scam. I don't know

  45. whether you wonder why they follow him. Of course, before

  46. that there was some interaction. I think if you read

  47. another gospel, he will say that actually Jesus didn't just

  48. ask them to follow, you know, he actually got in

  49. their boat asked them to go to the sea. And

  50. there was a crowd following him because he was preaching, right,

  51. So he was preaching, and as he was preaching, Oh okay,

  52. I knew, be careful I was.

  53. He was preaching.

  54. You know, they probably hurt him, hurt what he said,

  55. you know, And he went out to the sea because

  56. there were just so many people, right, there were just

  57. so many people. So he went on the board and

  58. went out to the see and then he could speak

  59. to them, right, And as they were listening, and again

  60. this fishermen that were not you know, I think there

  61. was a part where he also said they toiled all night,

  62. but they caught nothing. Right, they toiled all night, but

  63. they caught nothing. And then after he finished reaching, he

  64. asked him to cast their nets. And he's like, okay,

  65. Peter said, what do you say? He said, okay, God, no,

  66. you know, good teacher, master or something like that. You know,

  67. we taught all night, but at your word, I will

  68. do it last. And then they caught a bountiful fish, right.

  69. And then Peter recognized that he was a holy man,

  70. and he actually said, you know, go away from me

  71. because I'm a sinner.

  72. Right.

  73. And of course later Jesus said, I made fishers for men. Okay,

  74. Mantel sixteen twenty four, twenty six.

  75. What does it say? Then?

  76. Jesus said to his disciples, if anyone desires to come

  77. after me, let him deny himself, take up his cross,

  78. and follow me. For whoever desires to save his life,

  79. I will lose it. But whoever loses his life for

  80. my sake will find it. For what profit is a man?

  81. Is it to a man if he gains the whole

  82. world and loses his own soul? Or what will a

  83. man give in exchange.

  84. For his soul? Okay?

  85. That's will be a Bible study this morning, can right?

  86. But because I don't really know exclaim, I kind of

  87. need you to respond to me a little bit.

  88. Cannot, okay, can?

  89. So I'm just gonna ask some question and you raise

  90. your handland don't have to raise hijus, you know, so

  91. I can see? Okay, So, how many of you here

  92. have received Jesus as your personal lie savior. You have

  93. your received Jesus as your personal law and savior. I

  94. think most of you, right, something, they're not sure it's okay.

  95. I remember speaking to a young man and he told

  96. me that he's half Christian. And I was like, what

  97. does that mean? And he said, oh, of course, my

  98. mother is Buddhist, my father is Christian. And I said, bro,

  99. I think you don't really understand. I think you're a

  100. zero Christian, you know, because when you accept Christ, there's

  101. no half Christian, you know, commit your life to Christ.

  102. If you didn't remember what we normally say at the

  103. end of service, right, So all of us here we

  104. accept Christ as our personal line savior. Okay, next question,

  105. but don't lift up your hands. How many of you

  106. are actually following him? We're strong upas Alvin, So first

  107. start ready, how many of us are actually following Christ?

  108. Okay, don't answer that, think about it. Think about it.

  109. So Jesus had disciples, right, of course, he had more

  110. than twelve, but we know the twelve. Okay, we know

  111. the twelth disciples, right. I'm not going to recite them

  112. because I cannot remember every name. You know, Peter James,

  113. John and some of them. And Judus is scared, like

  114. all of us know him because he's the bad guy.

  115. Everybody knows the bad guy. And he had twelve disciples.

  116. What did he do with the disciples? Have I thought

  117. about it? What did Jesus actually do with the disciples?

  118. He walked with disciples for three years, you know, three years,

  119. so from zero to thirty, right, actually zero to twelve.

  120. He will see the parents. And then after that he

  121. got lost, or more like the parents lost him, lah okay,

  122. and then they for a few days, and then he

  123. went back.

  124. They found him.

  125. And then after that he committed his life to his

  126. dad and his craft. He became a carpenter right until

  127. he was thirty years old. And then after that he

  128. started his ministry. Right, And what did you do? First

  129. he went and looked for John the Baptist. He got baptized,

  130. and then he started his ministry, went around preaching, ran

  131. around healing the sick, and then he went around collecting disciples.

  132. Right. Decided asked people.

  133. To follow him, and the promise was follow me and

  134. I will make you fishures of men. Right, And of

  135. course they were fishermen. They just dropped and they follow

  136. him la better deal. I think they thought also, they

  137. thought better deal. Right, So he walked with his disciples.

  138. For three years.

  139. They traveled together, they ate together, they slept together, they

  140. lived together.

  141. Right, they hang out together.

  142. The disciples had a good look at Jesus' life, don't

  143. you think so?

  144. Right? They probably know he wake up early in the morning.

  145. You know that's that again, right, because the Gospels the

  146. disciples wrote, they wrote the Gospels right as an account

  147. of this guy's life named Jesus.

  148. Right, they saw.

  149. Everything, right, They had a good look at his life

  150. on and off his.

  151. Speaking engagements right. Right.

  152. Now, you'll see Jason Martin and he's here a nice suit,

  153. but his.

  154. Wife really knows him. How is he at home?

  155. Right?

  156. What are his bad habits? What has his good habits? Right?

  157. His family knows him.

  158. If you're close enough to Jason, you probably also know, right,

  159. if you are close enough to him as a friend

  160. or as a family, But you probably also know that

  161. Jason is iron man, right, right, He's very you know,

  162. he's he's gotten into that. And you know he's also

  163. he has a he has a you know, because we'll

  164. grow up in church together, right, we always call him

  165. the King of one liners, because he is until today right,

  166. but now this morning one liner.

  167. Right.

  168. They knew Jesus on and off he's speaking englishments. They

  169. knew Jesus, and they had a chance to speak to

  170. him and learn from him, and they saw him at

  171. every moment, right, he will he will be one one

  172. moment speaking to the crowd, speaking to everybody.

  173. And then he got like a power time or.

  174. Like the brief time with the disciples to say, hey,

  175. you know, Jesus, what you mean? I just now use

  176. all these like parables we don't really understand. And then

  177. he explained to them he had a chance, they had

  178. a chance, like to.

  179. Explain the why, why this? Why that? Right?

  180. So they saw decide he could write, They could write

  181. all these things because they saw, they knew, they understood, they.

  182. Learned from him, they followed him. They really knew Jesus.

  183. Wouldn't you really know someone if you hang out with

  184. them all the time, wouldn't you you were right? Unless

  185. we're all ignorena or to preoccupy our own things. But

  186. most of the time we will know.

  187. Right. What does communion with God means? Well?

  188. Decide I took from dictionary commune. Community with God refers

  189. to having a close intimate relationship and fellowship with God,

  190. true prayer, worship.

  191. And other spiritual practices. Coria. We all agree or disagree

  192. with me, right, that's communion.

  193. We've got right, true, true and true through just going online,

  194. through just watching Netflix, through no true, different to prayer,

  195. true worship, and through other spiritual practices. Because God is

  196. the spiritual God. We are human, we are natural. We

  197. are here on this earth right. We interact each other

  198. very naturally. We don't inter each other spiritually, but we

  199. interact with God and His presence in the spirit when

  200. we worship, when we tune everything else out, when we pray,

  201. when we do our quiet time. That's why we ask

  202. you to do quiet time. Why because when you do

  203. your quiet time, you commune with God. And if you

  204. don't do your quiet time, then you don't commune with God.

  205. If you pray, you community. If you don't pray, then

  206. you kind of don't communic. Coroner, am I getting somewhere

  207. you worship? You commune with God? Who do you worship?

  208. Let me challenge some mindsets here. When a song comes

  209. up and you don't like the song, who you still

  210. singing with all your heart? Because who Are you worshiping?

  211. Are you worshiping your feelings? Or are sing God?

  212. I try and connect with God, try and connect with

  213. your emotions.

  214. You gotta be very clear in our friends, because if

  215. you're not, if you're not very clear with this, you

  216. know what's gonna happen. The danger is that we don't

  217. understand this and our relationship with God. The danger is

  218. we're gonna start exalting other things.

  219. It's very grave. One.

  220. You start exalting the worship, not the God of worship,

  221. the gody worshiping. You start exalting the music and the song,

  222. and ay, we actually should be exalting God. Just just

  223. challenge your mindset a little bit. Okay, So community with God?

  224. What does it mean?

  225. Well, it involves a two way communication where God communicates

  226. with us and we respond to him. Right, So this

  227. can be seen as a form of intimate conversation and

  228. connection with the divine. Don't lift up your hands, But

  229. how many of you here know the voice of God

  230. and he doesn't sound like Morgan Freeman? How many of

  231. you understand what is it like to community with God?

  232. Friends?

  233. Do you know that He wants to connect with everyone

  234. of us? He is not here and interested to just

  235. talk to the pastors and leaders and the prophets only

  236. know He wants to talk to everyone. That's why for

  237. God's soul, love of the world, he gave his only

  238. begoden son that whoever believes in him.

  239. But have you done alive? Right? God wants to connect

  240. with everyone of us.

  241. The question is do we want to connect with him? Communication?

  242. So effective communication? Let's talk abou a little bit about that.

  243. If active communication, what is effective communication? Well, effective communication

  244. is crucial for building strong relationships, corying on although so

  245. a merrit.

  246. Right? Or in a relationship? Right? Or have kids? Or right?

  247. Don't you think effective communication? Do you know that we

  248. are horrible with communication? We are, and we're getting worse.

  249. Right.

  250. It's crucial for building strong relationships, resolving conflicts, how many

  251. if you've got conflict here? Right, and achieving shared goals.

  252. It is essential for understanding each other's perspectives, fostering empathy,

  253. and working together effectively. Well, suddenly it sounds like a

  254. business meeting. Am I speaking alien language? Or do you

  255. guys get it? Is it complicated or simple? It's not

  256. very complicated? In our friends, it is not. But of

  257. course a lot of things get in the way of

  258. that sometimes most times all the time, right, our expectations,

  259. our emotions, how we feel, how we think. Right and friends,

  260. I understand, I understand, and said, sometimes it is hard

  261. to navigate this life with an unseen God.

  262. It is. It is hard.

  263. Even Jesus are when he came back, you know, and

  264. was resurrected. Right the decype of Thomas say I only

  265. see you on yeah I believe. I mean, he didn't

  266. say that way like he was in Malaysian, right, he said,

  267. oh I see.

  268. You, yeah, I believe.

  269. And Jesus appeared to him someone and say look at

  270. my hands, like, oh yeah, I believe now and said Thomas,

  271. it's great that you see and now believe. But blessed

  272. are those who have not seen but yet believe. Isn't

  273. he talking about us today that we have not. I

  274. have not seen Jesus, you know, I've heard people don't Jesus.

  275. I've never dread of Jesus. I've never dren of Jesus.

  276. I've never heard God's audible voice. I think I'll be

  277. scared if I heard it. But I know God speaks

  278. to me, right, So it is hard, admit, Yes, it

  279. is hard. It's easier to see someone easier. Talk to Jason.

  280. See Jason is here, doctor passag Julian, see him is here,

  281. doctor End is easier.

  282. To talk to End is easier. Right, That's why God

  283. modeled out discipleship with men.

  284. Your catch din not. We need people around us to

  285. help us grow alongside with God.

  286. Think about it.

  287. We need people around us to help us grow alongside God.

  288. Let me challenge another top process. Do you think it's

  289. enough that you grow in your faith? If your only

  290. touch point he's on a Sunday for two hours?

  291. Think about it? Do you think it's enough?

  292. And then we practice these things and then we wonder

  293. why God not speaking to us? Think about it. There's

  294. a principle in a Bible about sewing and reaping. Whatever

  295. you saw, you read God is not marked. The more

  296. you saw in something, the more you repeat. You want

  297. to have communion with God, then you got to sew more.

  298. Same with any relationship. You want to have a good

  299. relationship person, you have to sow more. You have to

  300. meet the person, more know the person, more understand the

  301. person more.

  302. Right. That's what happens when people like people.

  303. Are right first time fall in love every day you

  304. want to call talk very long right corona for those

  305. audio who have experienced it.

  306. Next, it's okay, you can just ignore this one now.

  307. And then you want to get to know everything about

  308. the person, what they like, you know, what color they have.

  309. I got very funny story to tell you, and so funny.

  310. So I organized the uh I mean sometimes, I mean

  311. we celebrate la in extraus. We celebated people and we

  312. organized like a Bescher party for one off one of

  313. my how the guys start, that's quite funny. And then

  314. one of the things we did was, oh, we won't

  315. play game LA, right, so we had like ten questions

  316. and it's all very innocent questions like what color does

  317. the girl like?

  318. Where does she want to go? And you know travel?

  319. What's that like? You don't go honeymoon? Gore?

  320. I mean, all these things are ten ten questions, okay,

  321. and for fun night. And of course if he fails

  322. the question, then we will punish him la. You know,

  323. wear something, put shaving create on his face and don't worry.

  324. It way way all very Milway safe fun. Sorry, I yeah,

  325. I can you not? So I had one of my guys.

  326. We did it. We played the game let's just say

  327. that after the third question, we felt like we need

  328. to stop the game because he doesn't know anything about her.

  329. And then we were like, oh you got outward. You

  330. were like okay, and he was very basic questions like

  331. what color is she? Like give it he and there

  332. were a few things he confidently answered. We're like, it's wrong.

  333. You're like, okay, I think we should stop the game now, and.

  334. No, continue with dinner. You know, it was so weird,

  335. were thinking you could have married this person and you

  336. don't know what her favorite color is. You know.

  337. After that, right, some of my guys right who got

  338. new friend, they were confidenced me, yeah, I know her

  339. color because they actually got the list. And then going

  340. ask I'm like, okay, good there, you do your homework.

  341. But you see, any form of relationship that's closed need

  342. to be built, right, You need to be built friends,

  343. if you have no good relationship with your parents, right,

  344. can I be re honestly because you're not building it.

  345. And unfortunately, we expect our parents to do the building,

  346. but maybe their parents didn't teach them how to do

  347. the building, and then it's up to us. So why

  348. because we got Jesus in a Lisma, because we see

  349. the light man, because we know Ma, because we've been

  350. set free?

  351. Then why can't we be the change? This one thing?

  352. It's hard?

  353. This is why when I think about the way Christ,

  354. why didn't Jesus start a podcast? He wants people to

  355. know about him?

  356. Right?

  357. Have you thought about it before? Why didn't he start

  358. a podcast? Or why didn't he have a talk show?

  359. Everybody watched the talk show? Why didn't he start the school? No,

  360. he didn't do all these things. Do you think Jesus

  361. is dumb? I don't think it's dumb. Now, I think

  362. he was very smart. I think he was very very smart.

  363. I think understood. I think God, our creator, understood the

  364. way we think, understood the way we do things. And

  365. what was the solution that he gave us to share

  366. the good news to everyone.

  367. Discipleship.

  368. He didn't say let's start a lecture like Naulah, I'm

  369. lecturing your He.

  370. Didn't just say start home.

  371. No, he said discipleship one on one, discipleship three year costs,

  372. intensive costs for the child disciples.

  373. That's what happened. Friends.

  374. Why am I sharing this with you this morning? Well,

  375. it's very simple. In ex church, we believe in decipership.

  376. I'm not sure whether you can find this anywhere else.

  377. I hope you can, but at least if you're here

  378. and you call exk your home. My encouragement to all

  379. of us here and this year our team is decipership,

  380. is that if you are not discipled, it's time to

  381. get discipled. And if you're not discipling anyone, it's time

  382. to think about who you can disciple.

  383. Right, because this is the way that Christ did. It

  384. is nothing beyond is it hard?

  385. Yes, of course right. Your disciple might go up to

  386. you and say, get me behind me, Satan. That's what

  387. happened to beeter. Of course, I think our leadership organize

  388. they're not gonna do that to you, right, But disciple, shit,

  389. there has to be something about it. There has to

  390. be something about it that works. There has to be

  391. something about it that helps us.

  392. Well.

  393. If you read Matthew chapter eight, verse nineteen twenty, that's

  394. what Jesus has to do. Go out to all the

  395. world and make disciples and do what teach them, teach

  396. them what all that I have taught you, and baptize

  397. them in the name of the Father, the Son, and

  398. the Holy Spirit. And then there's a promise and lo,

  399. I am with you as the communion continues. Right, the

  400. communion continues. Let me share with you a little bit

  401. about my discipleship journey, because I know not a lot

  402. of you know me. So I joined Acts Church in

  403. two thousand and five. Okay, that's twenty years ago. At

  404. that time, I was studying in MMU Multimedia University, Sabagaya,

  405. and of course as a chemistudent, I just fort my

  406. friends church star right. I actually I said I was

  407. from glang So I actually attend a church in Glang right,

  408. my parents church for where long?

  409. Right?

  410. But somehow after I graduated, it was very weird because

  411. I just felt I needed to find my own church.

  412. It was so weird and I'm like, what, I this

  413. is my church? What do you mean God?

  414. So it was a six month wrestle wrestling for six

  415. months and I said, God must have a few checklists

  416. before I go. I don't want to see me leave,

  417. and all this is my home, all this kind of

  418. stuff are right, And then every czechlist pancelor my parents

  419. let me go, all these different things law.

  420. And then at the time when I.

  421. Was looking for a church, always joke with past and

  422. this extes was not top choicer because I at the

  423. next when I was in campus, and let's just say that,

  424. I thought extras before are action.

  425. Sorry for me?

  426. Right? Yeah?

  427. My pastor here?

  428. Yeah, anyway, I thought actually were at the time last

  429. different different crowd, different crowd, different crowd.

  430. Maybe I met the wrong people anyway, so I didn't.

  431. I thought, oh, maybe I'll go to a bigger church

  432. in k l or another smaller church in Subag you know.

  433. And I'm like, you know, I can help you know

  434. all these things. But since I have no place yet,

  435. I just go through where I know follow friends. Man,

  436. So I go on and I remember this one message

  437. that I canna preach. I remember that I'm still trying

  438. to find the message you can not find. He Ap

  439. preached about unpacking your backs, and that spoke to me.

  440. And immediately, as a young foolish man boy, I would say,

  441. I said, God, I will die in this church, like

  442. I don't know.

  443. Whether I'll do that and not now, but looks I'm

  444. hating that. No, but I said that, you like, why

  445. did I say that?

  446. Okay? Foolish and brash.

  447. So I was looking for a church route down after

  448. graduat thing, then passer preach. So I told God, yeah

  449. that And so when I joined X, I plugged in

  450. myself and I sir like all out because I didn't

  451. want to like allow anything to like you know, or

  452. you know sometimes you know sometimes that you see a

  453. lot of things that glitter and then you chase after it.

  454. But do you know that things that glitter a lot

  455. of times it's not God, but then we chase after

  456. things that glitter.

  457. So I plucked myself in, I surf and at that

  458. time we started to time five. We started huddles. We

  459. started it was just to start what th.

  460. Years ago, just to start huddles right, And I was

  461. discipled by one of the leaders there and in.

  462. One year I was appointed as a leader.

  463. Okay, and at time our churches four camera student, I

  464. mean now X church, we are so blessed. We got

  465. so many different but yeah, we were young church. You know,

  466. we will looked down by a lot of people because

  467. we were young. How you you're young, can you'll do

  468. anything or not? Well a Bible say Kenna. We were

  469. very strong in our faith. We followed pasta Kenna. There

  470. were a lot of testimonies in church I think enj uh,

  471. you know, Jason just or you'll remember those testimonies because

  472. we were there in one. Do you know when when

  473. when you have one church plan easier, you're much easier.

  474. Then God has to go.

  475. And you know Multiplier said that what God, you should

  476. stay together? You know I want to scatter you read

  477. the Bible or not got scattered the juice? You know,

  478. true persecution, so one another. If you don't scatter, God

  479. will scatter you. Why because other people need to experience him.

  480. Right.

  481. So so when I joined as, I helped out in

  482. video and with my skill set, and then Passa Kenna

  483. approached me to start our church medium ministry. So I

  484. started XTV okay faithfully until twenty fourteen. Right then I

  485. passed that role to Mintion, who's the current head of XTV. Well,

  486. I guess partially also because in twenty twelve, you know,

  487. I was asked to Blood XPJ, And can I tell

  488. you that when I was asked to Blood XBA, I thought, see, I, well,

  489. maybe it's communication because there were a few things I thought. Okay,

  490. first thing I thought was I was second choice because

  491. I thought there was someone better than me.

  492. That was what I thought. For a long time. Only reason. Yeah,

  493. I realized I was on second choice only recently.

  494. Okay, so think about it, Okay, think about the lack

  495. of confidence that you may have.

  496. And then when I was asked, I thought I was

  497. asked to be part of the team, not lead it.

  498. But as we prayed and as we did things, I

  499. realized slowly that I'm supposed to lead it.

  500. I'm like, oh no, okay, that's history.

  501. So when I came to ask, I would siper my leader,

  502. but my but then after a while, my my disciple change.

  503. So all kenya discipled me. Actually he's supposed to come today,

  504. it's not well, please pray for him. Okay.

  505. So somewhere around two thousand and seven town eight, right,

  506. and can I tell you that I chose a na

  507. Why because actually during a time passa kind of maybe he.

  508. Got full sight. He always got full sight. He's signing

  509. him to me.

  510. And like he asked, oh disabuation, I'm like, okay, say,

  511. but if you don't change, can one?

  512. No?

  513. Okay? Then he walked off there, Oh okay, should I change?

  514. So I changed? Now? I thought, oh maybe, but he's

  515. so deare better not a lot? Right? I picked someone

  516. under him, you know.

  517. And when I was choosing choosing a discipler, I thought

  518. to myself, like, who who shoo should I choose?

  519. Who should I choose?

  520. Right?

  521. If I choose people similar to me, then I would learn,

  522. so I to choose someone different. Oh my goodness, so different,

  523. very different than el Can was a different person last time, right,

  524. and our personality very different. Okay, So two years of wilderness,

  525. two years because I didn't really understand him, two to

  526. eight two years of wilderness.

  527. It was not easy, right, it was so not easy.

  528. But now after learning growing under his leadership, we've got

  529. a weird tight relationship, right, And I like to believe

  530. that I'm one of his trusted disciples.

  531. That I like to believe that lat okay, and I.

  532. Initial chose him because he had quality side in my head,

  533. he was always the first to arrive in church and

  534. the last to leave. He was also one of passer

  535. Cana's most trusted and relied on disciples until today. And

  536. I can tell you confidently that through his discipleship, I've

  537. really matured as a person and also grown in my ministry.

  538. And I'm still growing today and also discipling others. Discipleship works, friends,

  539. discipleship works. Discipleship is not going to be something that

  540. will be there front one. Like I said, I got

  541. two years of wilderness until I had to crack the

  542. code called I think I saw Daila right, But what

  543. was the goal of it?

  544. Friends? It was because I was pursuing God. No other reason,

  545. no other reason.

  546. Let me show you a graph discipleship. Right, So how

  547. how you so you say decipership? Right, Okay, I get you,

  548. But how do we do it?

  549. I show you?

  550. Well, you want to disciple dose scipership? You have to

  551. start fellowship as Lam.

  552. Go Macca, go cheer, go hang out right, I have

  553. to go homes. How to do discipleship if people skip homes? How?

  554. Yes?

  555. How if people once we finish chesha, let's have let

  556. you get it bite one another discipleship then at God

  557. attendant DECIPI you don't have how if you don't have fellowship,

  558. how you have disciple ship?

  559. You can't? Can I be honest with you? You cannot?

  560. You can't call it?

  561. Oh, Jason, I never meet you, I never talk to you.

  562. I don't know who you are. And sorry, I know

  563. who you are. I'm your disciple. How how you think

  564. you're a confident. They say yeah, no talk nothing, zero contact.

  565. You know, it's like going up to a girl that

  566. you never call talk and say you're my girlfriend.

  567. Now, it's weird, right.

  568. It starts with fellowship, and then as you build a relationship,

  569. it gets into a deeper connection because there's trust's understanding, right,

  570. deeper connection communion, And then what happens. A transformation happens.

  571. Not because oh I'm closer to Jason. No, not because

  572. or now I know energy, well, so then I follow

  573. every well No, not really, there is a transformation because

  574. we disciple people towards Christ and the spirit of God

  575. is in the situation as well. So now I feel

  576. you know, when I talk to pe about this, I

  577. feel like, you know, I'll give you this perspective.

  578. Love. Always believe in God?

  579. Right?

  580. Do you believe that God is in control of everything?

  581. Do you believe that God is in control of your life?

  582. Now?

  583. If he is, why why you don't trust him? Why

  584. you don't trust that the boss that He plays on

  585. you today is there for you to learn and if

  586. the boss is not there, the Lord will remove the boss.

  587. Why is it that we cannot trust that if the

  588. church leader there is your Homelely Dad, you don't like there,

  589. as you go prayer service and as you come, as

  590. you give, as you do, I don't like you keep

  591. asking me be holy. It's something that God wants you

  592. to learn more because he's in control over your life.

  593. Have you ever considered that? Have you ever considered that?

  594. Because the Bible says it himself. The Bible says that

  595. we should honor our leaders, not not just Christian nor

  596. Christian honor our leaders. Why because they are placed over

  597. you for a bur personal h the butur personal. You see,

  598. if we can go into theipership, there will be transformation.

  599. I will go as far as you said.

  600. If you are thinking about your life and there's no transformation,

  601. maybe you're not aligning enough.

  602. It's your choice. It's our choice.

  603. We choose, We choose what we want to do. Let's

  604. go to a simpler understanding of it. The next life.

  605. So first it's connection. Now I come to expect, I

  606. come to expect, I'm connected X time. All right, affiliation,

  607. I'm affiliated, and then we bill bill bill, and it

  608. grows from affiliation to conversations are how do you get

  609. to know each other?

  610. You don't talk?

  611. How to get or know and friends. Sorry, texting is

  612. not conversation. Now texting is texting?

  613. Right. Conversation is conversation, putting yourself out there. And then

  614. after that, what do you do? Macannah, I tell you

  615. when you eat the people.

  616. They will talk about the most interesting days, right, maccanne,

  617. people eating people. Jesus did that every time he want

  618. to share something, he will make food for them first, right,

  619. even when it came back. Right, he asked the decib come, come,

  620. come and eat first, you know, and then he breaks

  621. break and then they're like all this Jesus. And then

  622. as you grow and I know a lot of you

  623. here have come here and clang, you're now doing life together.

  624. You're now saying, hey, Jason, I want to surfing homes.

  625. I want to help, I want to do life. I

  626. don't want just be a spectator. I want to participate.

  627. Do you know that if you you know, one of

  628. the best ways for us to stop complaining about things.

  629. I'm not saying you are. I'm just saying that even

  630. Malaysia complain. My Malaysia is to participate. Because you won't

  631. complain about your work, You'll get edna if you don't

  632. like how.

  633. Extreme is doing it.

  634. Why don't you join extreme because after you join extreme,

  635. you know ha ha it is, you're not going to

  636. complain anymore because it's very I have to complare about yourself.

  637. You get what I mean. But it's very easy to

  638. complare to other people. So easy participate doing life together,

  639. growing and learning with one another. It's not going to

  640. be a bit of roses. It's not. It's not going

  641. to be all perfect. It's going to mess with your life,

  642. but you're going to transform. Amen.

  643. So let me give you three things. Well, do things

  644. here that you can do to start your disciples chip journey.

  645. They treating or two things? Ah okay God treat Okay.

  646. First, hey, friends, can you watch out for someone? And

  647. do you know that're watching out for someone? Doesn't matter

  648. whether you're all or young, just.

  649. Watch out for you. DA start with that first. Don't

  650. be so self centered?

  651. Oh I say there, word are We're not affected? No,

  652. start thinking about another percent. What are the two greatest

  653. comments in the Bible? Love the Lord your God with

  654. all your heart.

  655. Soul and mind. And love your neighbors yourself know where

  656. I read love yourself first. Care for yourself first? I

  657. mean yes, please take care of yourself. Please rest. But

  658. you know, you know what the world sells us self care.

  659. Let's all practice self care. Well, I agree, DISAGREEA Spend

  660. time with them, Spend time. Spend time doesn't have to

  661. be Bible study all the time.

  662. No, spend time sometime, just hanging out a lot, right,

  663. hang out, chilling, spend time, talk, you know, talk about life,

  664. and then share with them, pray with them. Just that

  665. you're discipling someone. Really, do you know that you can

  666. disciple people who are not believer us? By doing these

  667. three things? You can you can point them to Christ.

  668. So anyway, with this two questions, who can I disciple today? Oh?

  669. I must be leader there I can disciple No parents,

  670. you are discipling your children every day. So one is

  671. who can you disciple?

  672. Number two?

  673. What can I do to build on my relationship with

  674. my discipler? Jesus called them and said follow me. Do

  675. you know that that was the only time he has

  676. follow him?

  677. After that? He's up to them? No, do you know

  678. that a lot of people who follow Jesus.

  679. But the moment things got tough or things got rough,

  680. or even the moment where you know he said things

  681. like that, they left him. Only the child stuck until

  682. the end and then they left. Also, Peter DENI him

  683. three times. Right, it's still a choice.

  684. On one hand, you can say, oh no, Jason, I

  685. you know, but you have to work at it as well.

  686. It's a two way street. It's not one way street.

  687. Something we have unrealistic expectations or the people above us. No, friends,

  688. the disciplers work hard to maintain their relationship with christis well,

  689. to connect with him.

  690. Amen.

  691. I want to show us the power of discipleship and

  692. clear communication. But before that, I want to give like

  693. a little uh you know, like illustration. I want to

  694. start aside. Yeah it's the video, but not yet, la Vincent.

  695. So I want to get Jason come up. No, I'm

  696. not gonna give him dance, just stand here and la Okay.

  697. So, Jason, you have disciples here in X ray. Who

  698. are your disciples?

  699. Okay, let's say okay, nd.

  700. Okay, come up?

  701. Come up?

  702. Anyone else?

  703. Uh?

  704. So is this creates? But Chris is not here today?

  705. Yeah?

  706. Anyone else?

  707. Everyone else?

  708. Everyone else here?

  709. No?

  710. No, no, like like the official and official one. Okay,

  711. come come you can stand here. Okay. So I'm going

  712. to ask you a question, so when did this start?

  713. When did this start? When did he start?

  714. How many years ago?

  715. I think maybe one year ago? Yeah, last year?

  716. One year ago? Ye okay, So how do you happen?

  717. Like you approach you? You approach him like what.

  718. Mac? Yes, if it happened so yeah, together with Jess

  719. and then with Connie. Uh yeah yeah so it was.

  720. What he was.

  721. They approached you all. Uh I'm asking him how yeah,

  722. how how do you like?

  723. Uh?

  724. No, so we we it just started with a conversation

  725. and we we we wanted to meet up with them.

  726. And then.

  727. Also he asked you okay, uh ask you? Then I

  728. say I do?

  729. I say I do? So okay, So question how has

  730. it been so far? How has it been?

  731. Uh?

  732. How is it? Okay?

  733. Okay?

  734. Maybe I have What have you learned from Jason so far?

  735. What have I learned? A lot? Yeah?

  736. Get a good no matter what happened, just chill if

  737. if if Jason can do it, I think I can

  738. do it.

  739. But I cannot run for the care I mean, uh

  740. do you let anything?

  741. Of course everything you he say? He his facebook can

  742. write a book. So my on like three pages.

  743. From him? Are you discipling anyone else?

  744. Uh, of course, yes, yeah, kind of a signer, but

  745. I haven't released that. Yeah, yeah, already started.

  746. But is it is it?

  747. Is it something that you encourage other people to be

  748. in of course, and yeah, it's do you have to

  749. make time?

  750. That's it? Yeah, okay, thank you so much, Thank you

  751. so much. I put them on the spot. Yeah.

  752. When I did this in another church plan, right, there

  753. were like four people down the line. Of course, a

  754. bit different, right, the dynamics because like you know, the

  755. other chess plan, they were long, long enough for day

  756. and then they had you know, but I just wanted

  757. to give you a picture of the siper ship, right,

  758. and it carries on down and of course I know

  759. you know, just you have kids, right, so they are

  760. also discipling their children, right, And it's not just life skills,

  761. but I think it's faith, right, And of course the

  762. benefit is life skills. You also get to learn life

  763. skills and different things, you know. Let me show you

  764. another picture of the hypership that I think. I mean,

  765. I don't know, maybe you are convinced or whatever, but

  766. I think my encouragement is, guys, it's time to start

  767. stop thinking about the externals, you know, just now when

  768. I was worshipping. One of the words that came to

  769. me and I want to encourage exclaim, is that we

  770. gotta stop looking at the external things and start looking

  771. inside because you're too distracted with external too distracted. It's

  772. very difficult when we are distracted with external things. Oh

  773. too young, too old, too small, too big? Why we're

  774. like that, white dressed like that? Why can't dress like this?

  775. It's all external, that's the reality. How you want to

  776. argue is external? Why oh grand ballrooms so nice? You know,

  777. high ceiling or the chests so nice?

  778. Or chair not nice? Next week?

  779. I don't external. We laugh about it, but that's true.

  780. Our eyes, as our sites are on external. You know,

  781. ask the external social media. It's all external. Friends, you

  782. do not know what is happening in the background in

  783. their hearts of people. So ex can I encourage you

  784. stop looking at the external because God is interested.

  785. In what's inside.

  786. He doesn't care about external. And the more we get

  787. distracted by the external, the more we are unable to

  788. receive a breakthrough. You want to receive a breakthrough today,

  789. you got to stop looking at external and start thinking

  790. about what's right. Discipleship is not a complicated issue. But

  791. if you're constantly stuck with external no one must be

  792. like that, like that, like that. Do you know that

  793. when we do that, you are setting certain rules before

  794. you can act. Now, I've come to realize, even in

  795. my own faith right, that I don't want to be

  796. in such a position where I will give conditions to God.

  797. Before I do something. Lord, more my heart to be soft,

  798. that when you say go, I will go.

  799. That I will not give you conditions, because the more

  800. conditions I give, the more difficult it is, the.

  801. More I pull myself back. So, Francis morning, my encouragement

  802. to this as well. We got to look what's inside.

  803. We got to say, Lord, if this is the church

  804. I'm in, if this is the plan, I will follow

  805. and align myself and work out the challenges. Will there

  806. be challenges, yes, but we can work it out. It

  807. will be because the return is way better with the challenges. Yo,

  808. your cash that the return despite whatever challenge you face,

  809. if you're following the will of God right in your

  810. life right, the return will be so much better, The

  811. breakthrough be so much better.

  812. Amen, And I end with this week.

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