Unpacking the vision of Acts Church Part 3 | Pr. Matthew Chang

You're listening to a message to go from X Church.

We hope this message will light up your tea.

And so we are continuing on the unpacking the vision

of X Church. We have covered two so far and

we're entering session three. Okay, there's about six of them,

six sessions so far, so we are almost after today,

will be halfway through, okay, So session three just very quickly,

So I would like to give you a quick overview,

very very quick one almost a one sentence okay, of

what we have covered in session one, session two. So

then you enter into session three cannot have a bit

of understanding. So in the context of X Church, the

first twenty years of X Church, okay, from twenty to

twenty twenty, who did we follow after? What was the

character from the Bible that we were following? After Joe?

Joe Joe Who Joe's okay? Okay, this is after Joseph Okay, Okay.

The first twenty years ex Chrach from twenty twenty to

twenty twenty was after what we have the calling of Joseph. Okay,

why Joseph? Because Joseph has many dreams and then we

receive the dream we walk in their dream. We fulfill

that dream as well, according to God's grace. Okay, now

the second twenty twenty, the second half of twenty twenty,

which we are in the midst right now, which character

are we in? Are we are? We called to? Yes? Daniel? Okay? Okay?

So with Daniel? And so today this is where I'm

gonna be embarking as well. How does Daniel look like

apply to ex church? And when you say that, pas,

you say Daniel does twenty twenty one to twenty twenty

two to twenty is some do we have? We experienced

some of the Daniel as a church before in our

lives and as a church? How does it trick alown

to our our church partners as well to you? And

and how does it apply to all of us as well?

So we let's go to the next line. So in

twenty twenty one, what was the theme for extra Prophesie?

So you must understand a lot of us are we forget?

What's the theme for Extra read? Isn't it? Oh? Last year?

You forget? Ready? About as we recount that, you will

realize a lot of the themes are not by coincidence.

It's like, oh, we opened up by bird pastor ken

just like, Oh, a lot of us do our quiet

time like that one. Actually we just opened a random

by book. But oh, I think this is God's work

for me. Don't seemply today. It's very very dangerous. Okay,

it's almost close to the border of divination ready, which

is forbidden in the Bible. Okay, be intentional seek the lot. Okay.

So twenty twenty one is the year of prophesy. So

now in Daniel chapter two, if you remember the story

of Daniel King the book the book, Keniza actually asked Daniel,

and not just Daniel some a lot of the the

set traps, the magicians, the tooth sayers, right to uh

to undertake a very important task, which is what he

had the dream, isn't there? Yeah, But he asked them

to do two things, which is very challenging, not just

one a two? What was it? Yeah? So the first

thing is not to ask them to interpret the dream,

you know, is to ask them about what did I

dream of? Hey, you got to go to people. Wanna

go to people say John, a, you know what I

dream last night? If you don't care, if you cannot

tell my dream and you're not my friend, you know, God,

I didn't want to know. It's so unreasonable one to know,

not even to interpret the dream. Tell me what I

dreamed last night? How can I know what you dream

last night? Besk is? I maybe you dream about height

coause you went to Haiti La. I know, just random joking.

How can you know what people dream about? So the

king was actually asking for people for the for for

his so called minister and wise manner to tell him

why he dreamt. Why did he do that? Why did

he ask them to test them with tell me the dream?

Because a lot of them know how to talk money

you mean right? People like to talk, and if you

tell them the dream, people will have different versions, different

different sayings, and so you cannot really tell which one

have genuine inspiration. And this word inspiration is where when

I do teaching on the Word of God, right when

we talk about hey, how do we know that this

author his writing can be taken in my Hey? He

cannot simply you know someone and not sharing you write

a book? Can he be included into the Bible or not? Okay,

why we have this thing called the author must be

divinely inspired? You're not. The Word of God is inspired.

It's not just inspired by you because you watch a movie,

it's inspired by the Holy Spirit. And so there are

signs whether a person is divinely inspired, and one of

it is that you are able to from miracles and

that you are personally acknowledged by God as well Jesus myself,

including the Apostles. Even though Paul didn't see Jesus, he

saw Jesus in the road to Damascus, and after that

when he came out, whatever he wrote, he actually met

with Peter, and Peter actually authenticate and verify his writings.

So a person must be inspired. And so the asked

the people said, what did I dream of? Because if

you really are inspired by God, you will know what

I dream about. So none of them could do it.

And they were so like, oh, what the king asked

for If you read Daniel jef to door was it

is impossible, It is ridiculous. No one in the world,

no one in this country or in this land, can

do so. But there is one. There is Daniel. So

it's to prove that you're not just some smart guy

who knows how to say godly things, but that you

are divinely inspired by God. Ah said, that is what

Jesus is about not just someone performing a miracle. He

is this fine divine, is sent by God and in

inspired by God. So you must examine very closely. Even

the King himself know how to separate the people. You

know what I'm saying. Not he himself knows. I'm surrounded

by people who try to influence me, who tell try

to tell me what to do. But I'm gonna separate

you up from the sheep. And the God tell me

what I dream, then only you have the right to

interpret the dream to me. Ah, god on, Hey, he's

a smarkinger, he's a trouble king. But assault a smoking

in your life. Also, it's very important, you know. It's

so simply someone come into your life and speak something

to you, you know, but you must also, hey, check

a bit of credibility, tylor. You know this. Further, some

people mean well and do well lie you know, and

sometimes we call it a hit and run Christians, you

know what he and round Christians they come to you

and they tell you how very painful things are, but

they don't come a minister to you one you know,

you know, I tell you this is what God, the Lord,

what the Lord tell me? Bye? Bye, it's got hit

and run Christians. Don't be like here around christianstad you

really want to advise people, you really want to work

with people, you better make sure that you are willing

to disciple. That's why you Actually we believe in discipling.

We don't tell you, hey, brother, maybe I need to

correct something and then we'll just leave you that there.

We actually want to walk with you. Want to know.

You get me saying now, don't be a hit and

around Christian Now, okay, very very very important. We don't

hit around parenting. Also, no heit around parenting, not here

and around Christian here here and run disciples. Okay, all right,

So Dan, you had to tell what the dream was

and then the interpreting interpretation of the dream which was

impossible for men but only possible for God. Next like, okay,

so how does it apply to us? So from this

year on words, when we go back to twenty two

new one when Pastor gave out the theme, and then

for the year twenty two for about Prophesye, it's about

the supernatural. You see Daniel many impact in the land,

not because he was just smartered, not because he was

He chose to be a vegetarian for a while. But

because the anointing of God was him and through him

the supernatural flow. Understand the supernatural flow. Daniel was powerful,

Daniel was prophetic. There was a supernatural, there was the miraculous,

There was the spirit of God moving like never before.

And God and on when when, when past? I can

receive this. He's also trying to encourage the church to

move like Daniel as well. We're not forcing it, but

we are open and said, God, we we we receive this.

Then teach us how to work as Daniel did before,

not by our own mind and not our own strength,

but according to God's might and strength. So the no say, hey, God,

in your own life for my family, Lord, I want

the supernatural as well. I don't just do yes, yes, yes,

but but I wanted to take my faith a bit

further in my own family in the marketplace. Tho, I

see like, oh my, everyone, my colleagues and my bosses

don't believe. And then ah, but I really believe that God.

If I open my heart to be of faith and

I begin to pray, I really believe that the supernatural

can begin to happen as well. You get I mean right,

and sometimes we start the year by so much skepticism

and doubt without so many barriers. It's like a horse

that don't jump on. But then like, oh I'm so tired. Ready,

but open up your heart and faith to the supernatural

for the spirit of God moving like never before, for

the gifts of the Spirit to manifest and to come

to pass as well. Amen, Oh right, everybody, Okay, so far,

I know I'm running quite fast here when my words

are okay, all right, let's move on. Okay. So Daniel

opened his mouth and became a vessel, a mouthpiece of

God to speak the words of God. So the same

as once next one. So the theme of prophesy was

downloaded from the Lord, and all of us must learn

and be ready to speak. Okay, So are we ready

to speak? What if member had a dream? Has such

a demand cause for Daniel and Daniel feeled but not ready.

You must be feeled and you must be ready to

speak the word of the Lord in its right time

and proper time, and right and proper time, isn't it.

So don't just simply hey, I know, simply you know,

you just WoT me out, I know, don't simply vote

me blah blah blah blah blah. But then you don't

discern the time, and so you may some of us

may be put into a place, into a time to

speak something. Actually have a testimony that actually spoke something

I didn't imagine, but I knew I had to speak it.

But it doesn't just like oh, you're being taken control

by a remote blue tooth you know from heaven, God

controls you to speak. No, you still have to make

that choice to be courageous to speak one. Yeah, I

mean right, but you speak it in the proper time.

You speaking in the field of the Lord. Don't speak

it not just to hey, you know, because you know

your heart is not pure. But you speak it because

you discern the time. What kind of words, words of life,

words of blessing, encouragement, peace, faith, and so on as well,

you know, the things that comes from the spirit of God.

And God will show off his power, but it begins

with us speaking their power. So the question when we talk,

when we enter twenty anyone, was that what have you

been speaking? What have you been speaking people? And sometimes

you just speaking to yourself, speaking to your family, speaking

to your children, speaking to those around your speaking to

your situation. What have you been speaking about as well?

This is very very important, right, all right, next, let's

move on. I'm moving because quite a fair bit to

do to go through. So God is calling us, you know,

for the Daniel years starting in twenty to one, to prepare, okay,

to prepare and it is not in One of the

courts he mentioned was that it is not our responsibility

to bring the rain, okay, but it is our responsibility

to bring the umbrella. So you what it means that

there are things in life that you can't control. Bible

says that no one knows the day or the hour

that the Lord will come. It's not just the final

day of the Lord, but also things that are happening

in our life. A lot of us we make plans

for twenty twenty six. That's good, But how much of

your plant has did you did? Did you put into

cement and concrete? Readly, you're right, you make plans, but

you must give God the room to navigate to say that, Hey,

this is like that, So don't put all your eggs

and then cement and not concrete everything. It's like, oh

not God, we're not in It's not like your car

parked already. They said, no, God, I'm going to give

you the key. If you say move my car, I

move my car. If you say move my time, I

move my time as well. You get what I'm saying.

Giving God that key to your life is so important. Okay.

God is telling us not to worry about the numbers

as a church. He say, Hey, God, we want to

launch out as a church in order to move according

to your prophetic calling. Yeah, but are we Are you

saying that we must go out and hit the numbers?

You know, we do some m and marketing or digital marketing,

spam spam, pan spad back. Oh the numbers, Yeah, we

heed it already. We are not about the numbers. Okay, really,

you know, we're really not about numbers. But we believe

that the number will come through the lot. God would

make it made no mistake. At the end of the day,

the whole of be filled with people with souls. God

His eyes are everywhere. God we're bringing, but our eyes

we do not. We do not what they call it, Uh,

torture yourself or not torture yourself or burden our selves

are with the number thing? You know it can get

there one and know you can really get it. Look

at other church. How come so much more people? Hey, there,

so much more people want to I've been to churches

that are like that one. Okay, you not not to

say the leaders are like that, but sometimes people remember that.

They look Hey, but you know, I want to come

here because got more people say you can't here, shouldn't

because or more people want you come here because God

place you there, Even if it's a small church, God

place you there. Be there, you mean right because they

need you? You got mean? Right? Are you there because

God needs you to be there? You got mean? And

that's the thing, there's a criteria. You are there cause

you are needed. Doesn't matter it's big or small, you

are needed there. All right, Let's move on preparations for

the journey ahead. So what will we need to prepare

for the journey ahead? All right? Let's move on the

next night. Okay. So from here there are five seas

okay to prepare for the Daniel years ahead. Okay, five

seas okay. First one, we will need conviction. Okay. Conviction

means you don't just hear it, you have to catch it. Okay.

You know, if we don't believe, how will we even begin.

That's why we want to go through this series to

get people. And I know sometimes some of you probably

heard different a few times before, some of you probably

for the first time. But it's not just about the hearing.

It's whether you catch it okay, and it start. When

you catch it, you will also believe. And that is

why our model is helping people believe. Okay, you must

be able to catch it. Okay, you and a lot

of times you catch it, not because like oh you know,

because you know you catch it. What I'm saying is

that you catch it because something in your heart you

also know, aligns with what you've been observing as well,

you really observe it really aligns one really aligns with

what moving as well. And then when the pastor may

make the mention about you know, like you know, going small,

you know, by going to many plants, I really believe

that in my heart that there was the right direction.

It was very difficult because administratively, it's a lot harder

to manage multiple plants. You know, you know I'm saying,

you know, but it's a lot you know. But when

I when I heard it, when actually I realized that, ah,

my m's like pastor, I'll go to different plants. You

means that you're going to send me to different plants

and then preacher, which is why I'm doing outline. You

mean all times ahe I have to wake up like

seven o'clock in the morning just to go to somewhere

near about one hour drive. You know, Oh God, you

sure not sure? No, no, But people, God, I can

imagine some of the church brothers are we have to chair,

we have to to do worship, reading, we have to speak,

we have to count the money. We have to close

the church as well. At the same time, cannot but

if more people do in centralized are not easier. Lot

can even ask CHGPT to do a boat to do

it or so. You know. But it's a lot harder.

But I felt in my heart that it was the

right thing to do. It's the kind of instinct that

you have. It's almost like a parent one. You know

you know it's gonna make your life more difficult, but

you know it's the right things. You know what I'm

saying now, As a parent, you have the instinct one

you know it's harder, but it's the right thing. You

can't see it, but it's the right thing, and that's

a very important thing that we have to follow. You

see what I'm saying. You take away, you umpart your

WiFi from your children, But it was the right thing

to do. You get mean, right, even though they may

don't like you, Daddy, how could you? You're no longer

my best friend, But it was the right thing to do.

You know what I'm saying now, You endure the season

to redeem the time. You know what I'm saying now,

All right, next one? Okay? Conditions, Okay, So what does

it mean? Conditions? So it comes from this verse in

Judges twenty one twenty five. It says, in those days

there was no king in Israel, and everyone did what

was right in their own eyes. Okay. So on the

next line, a church and a family or any organization

cannot move forward if we are not what united, okay,

if we don't see the same thing, if we don't

believe the same things, if we don't catch the same things. Okay.

So in the days of Judges that everybody did what

was right on their own eyes. It was not just

about criming on. It was a lot of things. How

things are run and deeper things as well, and so

because of that, it was you know, just chaoticl and

in those times you can see you cannot you know,

the time of Israel, they were getting pillaged, you were

get raider. You know, people saw them as really you know,

easy for the easy for the to be prayed upon.

When you're live, okay, you don't have you just do

things out of your own eyes when you think what

is right. I just fell whenever I feel like it.

You realize that there's a bit of lack of satisfaction

in your life. You know, I'm saying that it feels

like you're free, but you're not really free. But yet

when you keep your life discipline, you find freedom. You know,

how many of you know this guy called Jocko Wilinka.

It's this big military deal. He used to be a commando.

And read one of his book versic book and h

and it's about him being a commander. And then he

was doing operations in Afghanistan and in Iraq as well.

And then after that he transitions to become sort of

like a consultant for CEOs, you know, to apply what

military things in h in uh CEO's performances. You know

what the one thing he said It really changed my mind.

He said, discipline is freedom. You can check it out, okay,

your go willing discipline is freedom. It's like when you

are disciplined, you realize you can do whatever you want.

It's kind of ironic, you know, but actually it's true,

isn't it. If you can wake up six five o'closs

every day by discipline, you will realize profound freedom. You know.

It's when you cannot, I cannot, I cannot, I cannot,

I want you want to do it? There is when

you are bound. It's funnier. It's very, very funnier. It's

when you discipline that you find freedom. When you don't

that you find that you find yourself bound on anyway, everybody, Okay,

you know what I'm talking about. It do way? It

makes sense, you sure know somewhere yeah, okay, okay. It's

important to centralize and set the conditions of how things

should be done sometime my family, okay, so that you

are so that we are all clear and understand the

same thing. How many if you like to go on

trips and there's no condition, everybody, just do whatever you

cannot move on, okay, not to be left to everyone's

understanding of what is right in their own ay, okay.

Next one The third se is cooperation. Okay, So conviction

comes from the Lord, and conditions and centralizing comes from

the leaders. However, if there are convictions, even if there

are convictions and conditions and there, if there is no

cooperation and commitment from everyone, we have nothing. You know

what I'm saying. Now, you can have all the vision,

you can have all the conviction, but if there is

no cooperation, hey, let's do this together. Okay. It's like

in this church, you know, possitive and say hey, let's

do this something, and everybody it comes to him saying,

I feel the God. God is speaking to me. I

feel God is speaking to me. I feel God speaking.

How many people we have here? Thirty? You got thirty

to fifty to thirty five, Fielty, people are telling him.

I think God is telling me to do this. Everyone

is pulling your left right up centered north south east west.

How so if off one fellow, you offend everybody?

Is it?

So? God is how? You know what I'm saying. No, So,

sometimes when we are as a churcher, we need to

test ourselves. You know, what are we saying and how

are we being a part of an organization? You I'm

saying not? Am I doing? Am I helping the church

to move? You know what I'm saying now? And then

this is a very very very important thing. You know,

everybody likes to say. I can come back to a

think that he and run Christians, Hey tell the past

that I think you preached a bit too long and no,

but then you just leave it like that. Someone actually

said that to me before.

You know.

Sorry if I offended you u as well, I'm sorry.

I know I'm trying to be better help There's some

truth to that as well. Actually, so I take it

to this as well. But we must come together to

a sense of Hey, sometimes restrained and also submission helps

the church to move, and in you doing so, you

are actually doing the will of God. I'm not saying everything,

but you can't discern you I'm saying not. And I

apply this to my life in my marriages right now.

Sometimes I got a lot of things want to take

to my wife. I just hold my mouth. I just

listen only and I realized the will of God is

true readly my life and she listening. Sometimes listening and

submission is very powerful one and all you must understand

it's not about me telling her everything. It's about how

can I get my wife to move from here to

here for her success for her life. You know what

I'm saying now that it's very very important and not

everybody having an opinion that everybody don't do nothing. That's

the word, that's the that's the toughest thing. You know,

every having an opinion and a comment by nothing to

go nowhere. Okay, It's very important to have a cooperation.

A vision is nothing without provision. And the provision is

not about the risk. It's not about money. You got

provisions about people, okay, and His plans has always been

you and I.

Now.

God always provides people. You talk about Moses, talk about Joshua.

There's always people that God provides. Next one, like the

fourth Sea is community. And God doesn't want us to

move forward alone or work in isolation, okay, going and

growing together so that no one goes alone. Saying community

means support. Okay, we all need a community in true now,

we all need a community, okay, a community that truly cares,

in a community that is truly safe. Sorry, it is

a community that is truly safe and a big part

of community is communications, and so we gotter get better

at it. Now, community has some parts about love. Okay,

go to the next light. So the motivation of community

is love. It's not just to get together, okay, but

it's about love. And look chapter ten, verse twenty seven.

It says, so he answered and said, you shall love

the Lord your God with all your heart, with all

your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind,

and your neighbor as yourself. A lot of people love

the Lord with all their heart. Oh I do, devotion,

I do, but then they don't love the neighbor. The

first part you can do at Homer. The second one

that you have to get out on. And the second

one is very hard because it takes all the first

part and apply you. You know, you say no is

hard enough because your neighbor can be challenging. May have

scratched your carlor mayor Hong dealer, may have taken your seats. Ah,

it's not easier. May not think the same way as

you do, La. But taking all this and apply it

is not easy. But that's that's the challenge. Amen. Next one.

So five things we can learn about love very quickly.

So the first thing is that we look out for

each other. Hey, we got when you come to church,

were kind of look out for each other, you know,

I know sometimes you know, you know, we we tend

to gravitate to our preferred destination. Oh this is my zone,

this is my thing. Okay, but in service, during service

and after service, we're kind of look out for people

as well. Just maybe hang yourself out a bit, you know,

take a bit of risk, say hi to someone, how

are you you? I mean I do that as well

as a past that how you re trains you? You

really trained you to look out for people? Want to know?

Sometimes some people I don't know how different age, different

intro is, different connection. I just have to like take

myself hallo, how are you? You know? It's like I

know that, but lord, I'm trying, and so I'm not

trying to be fake and iverythink, but I'm trying. I'm

really trying because I know this is the right thing

to do, and I'm trying to do the right thing.

And some people, whatever it is, I'm just doing it, okay.

And some people will say, oh, are you only make

me once last year? Only you know, and they start

off with ten bad things about you before they say

one good thing or finally you say hi to me.

You know, it s like there, why not? It's the

life of a passlor line. Know, people tend to say

things to forget before they say things. You remember when okay,

how are you? And then you're like, it's not easy,

but you do it as well. You look out for

each other. Okay, listen okay, and not just you know,

you listen and not just take tims to speak, but

you actually listen. Oh, what actually happened in your life?

You?

And then it's not easy because we are so isolated

and so siloed as community. It's not easy to listen

because we just want to move on. Can you stop

talking about yourself? But you have to sit down and

actually listen to people as well. You are ready to learn,

ready to stop and learn helping him, which is not easier.

Listen and you're willing to help. Ah, I may be weiling, yes, willing,

you're saying wheeling. You're like, oh, my goodness, my schedule,

way to find time? You're going to Yes, I will,

I will, I will do it. But actually your willingness

makes a difference in people's life. You know someone that

you met for some people, some of you have met

for some seeing someone for one whole year, two whole years,

but you're never actually willing to meet up with the

memo and on your office someone in your own family changing,

you're gonna come radio? Are you gonna willing to meet

some of your cousins and your aunties? You say you

will visit, You never visit before. Some names pop in

your mind ready, right, But it's the willingness you know,

I tell you sometimes are just because you make that one,

even if it's one tree. You don't care whether you'll

be consistent. You just do one now, don't delay it tomorrow.

Will take a care of yourself. You know what I'm saying. Now,

whether you just do it what is right, You don't

care what people say or what you say, but just

do it, Okay, And then you do what is right

and you make that effort. Someone who leads consistently, confidently

and courageously by example and leaves a legacy will follow

it and continue with the compulsion leaves. It's very important

because a lot of people, a lot of times are

you know, we leave because we are so siloed, right,

you know, we just leave for ourselves right. We don't

care whether what we do actually leaves a legacy for

those around us, because when you leave to leave a legacy,

you actually have to have a lot of self control.

You have to have a lot of self discipline. You

care about the perception of others, not for myself, and

so that others will walk in the bad example as well.

Then the best example is for your children, true or not,

true or not, even though you want to play their handphone,

but I will not do it because of my children.

Even though I'm very busy and I want to look

very busy, I'm always typing, so busy that you so busy. Oh,

let's put away, you know what I mean, I start

telling yourself, you're so that important. You know the important.

God is more important. We tell ourselves very important. But

it's true, you know, God is more important. Setting an

example is more important. You get men right, sell for

example for them. Sometimes I know, I let my wife,

you know, say tell me to remind me put my

phone on again. I say yea yeah, yeah yeah. And

then after they you know, saying from my children when

I eat, you know, they also fail. But you are

better than the dy I will tell them and not

I know you follow things from me. I know I

made mistakes, but I keep telling you, but I want

you to be better than me. There is there is

very thing you know but I but I need the

encouragement as well. I have to be better as well.

If you say something wrong, I apologize, But you have

to be better than me. Okay. So we have to

live our lives to inspire people, and that means that

we put certain boundaries, some certain guide, certain guards. You

limit yourself in a certain way. But it's the right

thing to do self control. Okay, everybody. Oh here, so far,

that's half of why I covered need to cover today.

Let's move on to the next. Okay, So there are

some reflections. Uh you know, firstly, have you experienced love

in this way before? And secondly, have you shown love

like this before?

No?

Secondary Chapter seven, verse nine to verse ten says thirst

days the lord of hosts, execute true justice, show mercy

and compassion everyone to his Rather, this is a command

of the law. Do not oppress the widow or the fatherless,

the alien, or the poor. Let none of you plan

evil in his heart again his brother. Okay, So even

the ten Commandments teach us about how to live with

each other in a common immunity. Okay, next one we

have and then the last. Sorry I thought I finishing already.

It's okay, I forgot the fifty. The fifty is college,

which is trade training. So we want to emphasize on

training like never before. That's why we have the APP School.

How many of you have signed up for APP school before? Yeah?

Some of you have not seen in my class yet.

Hope you will join this year. Make you a commitment

to join as well. Okay. So the more people are training,

the more equipped and excited that we are, the more

that we can get them to do what God has

called them to do. So yeah, okay, So the end

of goal for training is to make disciples, produce leaders,

raise and release Daniels into the market place. All right,

let's move on. Okay. So now we're gonna shift gear

and to this part about making disciples. Okay, So you

heard this. Discipleship is a very big thing in the

next church and always like wonder he So, how does

discipleship happen in xt church? You stay like program? You

know it's there a booklet you know. Today we're gonna unpack. Okay.

So they're gonna unpack how discipleship actually happen. So how

do we make disciples next life? So the first thing

is we look at the Bible. How does it work?

Follow me? The truth is all of us are disciples

one way another. If you take the word discipline right,

you know we talk about this. Why do you discipline yourself?

You discipline because you want to cause correct yourself to

become more successful. That's the truth. You want to you

get disciples, or you discipline yourself because you want to

be more successful. This is what everybody wants without any mistake,

true or not. Doesn't just discipline that anybody who wants

to change, maybe you make a New year resolution, change

or die yet anything. Everybody only changed because on one

main reason, okay, to survive and to succeed. But no,

tell me a better for us to succeed and to survive.

That is why you can't force people to change. I

can't change you, I can't change you. I can't change

my wife. But if you ever felt threatened that you

can't survive and you need to make a lifestyle change,

you will change and suddenly you have you know, you're

all I have high blood pressure and I need to

be healthier. If not, I will only have this much.

Believe you will begin to change, because what's the force

to survive? You know what I'm saying now? If you

have very bad one year that you are having a

financial problem and suddenly you make a resolution, I need

to really watch how I spend my money, guard my money,

grow my money, discipline. Now why because you want to

succeed I'm saying now it always comes down to do

these two bathing basic things of human instincrama to succeed

and to survive. But it has to come internally from you,

whether do you really really want it or not. And

a lot of times you won't change because the truth

is you don't feel the need to succeed that much

in the area you want. You lie, but it's optional.

But when it until it comes to a point of survival,

the desperation that you begin to truly change one, you know,

very ally change very really. It happens called weincidental one. Okay.

So why I say that is because when you talk

about follow, right, we follow people who we want, who

we feel are successful. That is why you're true or not.

We follow people who are successful in your life as well,

maybe you read books, maybe you like Elon m successful that,

maybe you like this guy successful. Maybe you follow Instagram

successful like it or another. You are disciples in a

way because you your instinct propels you to succeed and

to survive like that person in front of you. Okay,

so we we like you all that. It's the most

powerful discipleship okay. And none of these have books, and

some of you have books are but the truth is

that you are. Every day you are being influenced and

disciples by someone. So discipleship the truth is in church.

If you look in the Bible, it's really not so

much about a program. Okay, it's a lifestyle, it's an

But in church it's about spiritual discipleship according to the

mercy and truth of God. It's very big difference according

to the truth and mercy of God. And so the

people who work in God and want to be disciplined

on God fear the Lord. They don't feel about success,

they don't fear about sever They fear the Lord. Yeah,

the fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom,

and you seek wisdom more than anything else because you

know it leads to success and life you're saying, how

I'm saying, No, this is true spiritual discipleship. You must

have the fear of God. Okay, so disciples are disciple

is not about following program, but about people following people. Okay,

we know how to do something because we have seen

others do way, how they share, how they worship. There

is no read dicipleship. I tell you we can put

a program outside their discipleship. I can tell you people

most likely somehow will still don't want to serve, or

still come late to church, or don't want to offer

the homestre. How do sir? You get what I'm saying.

But the chances of you doing it because you followed

someone You when you experienced the warmth of a home leader,

of someone willing to give up their life to do it,

and it touches you. It's like, what is that force

that inspires that person to give so generously? Sea, It's

not just the giving and not it inspires you to

examine what is the reality behind this person's inner life?

I want that, you know I'm saying, not what is

the reality of that person's inner life? I want that

because I cannot find that reality in me to do that,

But why is he doing that? Is it fake? Is

a word or not?

Why?

And so the disciples found that in Jesus, there's inner

reality in him. This guy can keep talking about he's

going to die, He's going to die. Jesus keep talking

about he's going to die. You know, you know you

notice not Jesus keept wanning his disciples that his time

is coming. You know how I'm going to do. I'm

going to leave you. I'm going to the Son of

Man must go to the cross again. Ah, you mean,

like if you have a friend like that, it's very

tough to do the friend that guy. I want to know,

this guy is some more bid want to know. Keep

telling me that he's going to die. You want to know,

You'll be worried, You'll be calling for you know, befrienders

help right now. But this guy is like talking about,

there is strengthen him. There is a power and influence

in him. There's a reality in him that I want

to have a tap into. I want to live into

as well. And so when you experience that from leaders,

from parents, from people, it's like wow, you inevitably want

to find yourself being pulled towards them. Towards that gravity,

towards the reality to hey, maybe I want a bit

of that to touch my life as well. Okay, next one, ships, Yes,

feed my ships, that's what I feel my ship means. Okay,

so feeding your ship means the word of God, yes,

a lot of times. But it's more than just I

know the word of God. You know, you know, I

think the world God is important. And actually, one day

I will talk about the feeding. You know what, how

do you actually feed yourself? A lot of people say

feeding is about the word of God, Yes, but I

don't think that. Actually, though, our think about the phrase

that Jesus says about feeding. What did he do? What

did he say? My food is to study the word

of God? My food is to do the world of God.

Jesus himself said that. He didn't say, I'm not saying

studying the world of God is not good, but he

said this world, my food is to do the will

of God. Could it be that we have a lot

of Christians who know the word of God but don't

do the word of God, or maybe afraid a lot

of Christians who know the world of God but don't

know the will of God. Oh, you know, I'm saying, no, no,

the word of God, but don't know the will of God.

It's like you are you. It's like, I don't know

if this analogy is good for you. Okay. It's like

you're going for a reunion dinner. You your father, your

fam your father hosted it, and you are the son.

Everybody is busy and you walk in there. Everybody is

expecing you to do something, you know, to host, but

you just sit down there and you don't know what

to do. People ask you to sir, expect you to spain,

to serve, expel to samsa, to greet people and stuff

like that. But you just see there, I don't know,

just blind there. You know, you know what I'm talking about.

You Peo people you see and you're like, hey, this

is the this guy's son. Now why is he not

like doing you? You know, he's like his son, but

not his son. I don't want to know. You're full

of the knowledge, but cannot do the will of the father.

One you come saying, you know, we have a lot

of Christians are coming out to food or something, but

they just sit at the table waiting to be serf

on me. Oh, the roads that here idea, Okay, I take,

oh somehigus for me. Okay, take They just sit there

on your waiting like that. You know, you know what

I'm talking about, right sitting there and you Everybody is

wondering when is this guy going to grow up? True

or not? But it is funny that it is always

the older ones and death. Stand up, Come, let me

pour for you, let me surf you. Have you met

this auntie? Have you met this uncle? Or not? They

know what they can sense the room to know the

will true or not. Have we as a Christian have

we grown up? No?

Not?

The word of God said, except my food is to

do the will of the Father. You know what I'm

talking about. The thoughts, Yeah, it won't be that that

that one person just sitting there. Like later when you

go for the go for the luncher, make sure you

make sure yourself on another take the spool and take

the paper off of your tables. Can or not? Turn

to your neighbors. Said that I give you the opportunity

to do it. Huh. I give you the opportunity to

fetch me water to some top of me to ah,

maybe to pay for me or so. You know what

I'm saying now in Chinese, how we got this word

called saying more aha? Saying more ah? Say now I

tell you your grandma, Granda, your grandfather very happy, oh,

very good, quite sire. But there is a true honor

to that. You all know what I'm saying or not?

You cannot just come here like just wait, people look

at you? Why is this man just a machine? There?

That one? Let's go. I think it's the last one. Ready, Okay,

features of men. Let's not get spiritually fed, but only

on the receiving end. I know this one prophetic I

forgot about this, you know, but it's already saying what

I'm saying. But let's exercise our faith by giving true

making it. But it's not just about hey, oh am

I disciples, but also I want to make disciples. I'm

not saying that you're not, you know, not a spiritually

proud placed by saying what am I doing today is

actually influencing someone towards God? And I'm saying, now, what

am I doing today that is influencing someone closer to God?

It's a very deep question, huh, very deep question? Now?

Or is there something that influencing someone away from God?

Sometimes the things that you like the most are is

influencing someone away from God, isn't it? It's true or not?

And that is why it's a lot of things. It's

a lot of that. I don't want to I don't

want to like back to hard, but you know I'm

going to be encouraging as well. Okay, any anything else

or that's the last one. So yeah, the two foundations

that we and our disciples must know is the first

one is the Great Commandment, and then the second one

is the Great Commissioner to love the lot. But we

also have to go and make disciples, just to emphasize that.

The last one anymore, okay, but both have the word all.

I mean, I'm going through because of the time ready

small from small, tomorrow, growing from small to be Okay,

this one of the timeline. I'm gonna skip a bit

and then anymore. Okay, So no one person should be

left out because everyone counts. Okay, Like I said, you know,

we want to make sure that everyone counts. And so

how do we do it? You know, like you know,

discappleship is about following me to educate I do you watch? Okay?

This is actually most of the time how we learn one.

You know you know you know how to teach you

how to do notes? Go for sixty hours of ud

me class online. Okay, this's know how you do it? Okay,

tell the teacher. Just join a homestand join the homesta

print the notes out and you maybe you try with

me first. Huh Pastor Steven has been teaching for a

wile already? Oh how does this day? Oh after the

homeso maybe oh so? Oh what I noticed? A you?

You ask this question and you pause for why did

you do that? This looking on the jobler? Or how

to chair start sharing? Ah? Ah, it made me I score?

You know asking It's okay. You know your nervous. I'll

also be nervous before or true you you think past preaching.

I tell you every time I preach, I'm nervous. It

never goes away. It never goes away. It's just better

at overcoming it. You get me at the same barriage

there it never goes away. But just get the better coming.

You no educate? I do you watch equip I do

you help? So you get me how to become an

espressal come come earlier and then help me cokila, ah,

you want to learn there's no better way. Come earlier?

How early? What meanstime? Ah? Now we're talking about the

real stuff. Time. Okay, encourage you do I help? Ah?

Now this is the different way encourage now like you

do it you teach. Oh, I don't know, like when

I when I teach, everybody just kept quiet. Oh don't worry.

Let me encourage you. You have to go through it

because I went through it as well, you say, I

mean I I was one. I teach the wrong thing.

Everybody look quiet when I first preach, like, oh, you

know I when I started preaching, I start comparing myself,

Oh this pasta with this pasta. Oh this part is

so good. One can for people come out to the

front floor and then pray. What so good? You know?

I know? Is this flashly comparison? This the devil just

love to throw at you? And oh then I was like,

oh and I'm so not good. People don't like me.

I got this baby face. Nobody would take me seriously.

You want you know, maybe it's a tider away, you know,

and all these other things. You know, I als also

things that people say too thoughful preaching and stuff like that.

You know, what's the thing. But I do then after

one month, three months, six months, years, do it and

do it before you're realizing. You keep doing it and

you start to find your own path as well. I

stopped comparing our to myself. You ha, the people.

You know.

The anxiety wasn't taken from me. The anxiety was left

there and I learned to overcome it. You can mean

always people always pray for things to take away. Take away,

take away, Oh, just take away this straight. No, it

will still remain there one, but it becomes small and

smaller as you're overcoming and you grow taller and you

become stronger and power you do, and I'll watch, but

will always be there. Encourage them. Hey, you know, but

don't take up something. Encourage you to do something as well. Hey,

maybe it's not just watching you. I trust you to

do it, you know. That's the key thing, to trust

someone to do it as well. Okay, all right, so

do and teach. No, don't just teach, but don't just

do it. But don't just do it. Don't don't teach okay,

and not my mouth is like it's an investment. Okay,

this one will covering later on ten percent of our

time to talent treasure. So it means that discipleship is

an investment. It's a long term investment that we do,

and it's not easy. Sometimes it takes you to invest

in people. Sometimes people move on as well. But I

tell you, trust me that I have many I won't

say disciplesh it, but there are some people I have

very short influenced with. But I've always felt like you

must understand it now. It's a very important thing that

I learned in this Apple ship. Always treat the people

that you have to influence short term disapples. It doesn't

mean that you must meet a certain amount of time.

One biblically is not true. There are only some disciples

that had a lot of time, only had one uncountable

Jesus poor only had one and all it was in

the light on. So you want the disciple, I don't

want to disciples. No, it doesn't have to be many.

You just have to leave the right. So sometimes you

can meet a person for a short time, but you

must understand what is it that I need to leave

a person. Let me give you as a close here

an example that I had a very had opportunity. Someone

was borrowing money from me. This was a brother. Okay,

many years ago, so, and he was telling me that

he needed money. And by the way, we have a

policy about borrowing money here. Policy is check with your pastor. Okay,

you may have you think that you know the story

of a person, and you felt compelled to be the

angel of God, to be a blessing to this brother.

I'm sure, But even then, talk to your pastor, I

tell you. And I said it not because I tell

you this out of wisdom. It's true wisdom you think

you have. I tell you there are many many possibilities

with people, or just keep you to the possibilities with people.

And it's good to account. Okay, that's why Bible said

for me who works to the lorna, you have committed

you know, do you trust? A lot of times? I know,

I feel the word the Lord is teaching me how

to help. This person is using me. If you stop me,

the Church might stop me. Everybody's story doesn't go that way.

Why trust me, God really speak to you, speak to

the church to get here to help in wisdom and

unity as well. Must account very very important. Anyway, and

I talked to my wife, and your mom was helping

his brother. And then he was supposed to me pay

me back at a certain time, and then he didn't,

and he accidentally, coincidently conveniently forgotten told me, Oh for God,

And I can tell you, as a young man and

very sad and I look at him, I can tell

you there's no discipleship, but I can teach your homesot.

This was the discipleshit moment. There's one discipleship moment. And

I said, I leave it up to you, but I

would suggest that you I'm not going to put any

more money to you because I'm here not to borrow money.

I'm here so that you can leave Malaysia learning one

of the most important lessons of your life. Do you

want me to do that? I need a permission though,

because a lot of time people want discipleship, but I

would always try to tell them you want me a

debate disciple, then you have to reaffirm that because that

means I will have to tell you certain things. But

I need your permission. I'm not going to force you,

but if you want then it's just sorry if you

If you give me permission, then I will be a discipler.

If you don't give me the permission, then I will

be a friend to you.

Yeah.

I mean a lot of times people want discipleship, but

they just want a friend. I'll tell them, okay, that'll

be a friend. I'll tell you what you want to hear,

but whatnot you need to hear. But if you want

me to be a discipled then I would tell you

what you need to hear with your permission. So you

want to be disappered, okay, disappered okay. And a lot

of times when I tell people that I would, I

would have this also readiness and that it might be

my last meeting with them. A lot of times that

a lot of times is a few people have left

it ready because I tell them the truth. And this

is the readiness I have to hurron because it's not easy.

It's not easy, and the initial instinct is to personalize

that this person had me. It's always like that one.

It's always like that. But you, as a person, you

want to help somebody, you must be ready to be

hated for that reason or they misunderstood for that reason.

So I told him, I would suggest that you begin

to start saving money to this amount and to pay back.

And so time passes by. Brother was going back, and

then one day he gave me and I was driving

him back. He gave me an envelope and what's the

same amount of money. I was like, how did you

get this money? Because I've forgotten about it, you know,

said oh, I have not been eating I know some parts,

and not saving money from here and there. Just to

save out this money before I left. I want to

pass it to you. I was like wow, and I said, bro,

all all the things I think you've learned, I think

this is the one thing you needed to learn more

than anything else. That you honor your work and I

know it costs you and the price that you paid

has left a change in you. And I give them

money back to him, he cried. I said, I think

this was the one thing that you would learn. And

I think that because you did what you did, I

don't care so much about whether you forgot them to

pay me the money, because you learned it. I believe

that you will be successful game men, right, You will

be successful because you kept your work. See the supposip

is like that one. It's not long by Burthtudi a

lot of times, but it's moments like this one. You

come in right where you just take one moment and

you change your life to learn what is most important

for them. You understand why I'm saying or not? So

it must ever and but you cannot do that unless

you walk with them. You're willing to take the investment.

I took a risk and or that he will just

take my money and go, and I met people who

cannot take it before. It's sometimes it's not like, oh

you have theological problem. May you are not serving in church?

And no, I just look at that live. Hey bro,

maybe the way you talk to your wife. You want

me to be a disciple of a friend or not?

So you're man right if I be a befriend, Okay,

we'll just be a friend and just say hi, bye,

are you changing your Christmas? Do the same thing again.

But if you really want to be a disciple, I

might tell you something that you may really really don't

like and you have to be raided. You might move

away to a different planet to different church because of

me as well. You get I mean, but you must

have the discernment and love to do it. There are

people who left my head and I still love them.

I really really do love them. I never hated them,

and I understand why why possibly they put as well.

And actually there are some of you here. You maybe

had a different tough relationship with someone that's above you.

Maybe they said something harsh more painful directly to you

or to someone else. The funny thing is, I just

met someone two weeks ago who just had that offense

so much older brother offended. Okay, not me, but you

know with me and other people. But but I did say, like,

you know, but we have to open up our heart

for healing from ministry, for God to touch so that

we redeemed the lesson that God wants us to learn.

The enemy will always personalize it to put the barrier

from what you can learn from that lesson. You get

what I'm saying now for my brother that differend earlier,

he could have just so easily stumbled in her and

hated me for what I said. You give me like that.

That was the stumbling block, you know what I'm saying.

I'm saying that was the stumbling block. He could have

taken offense. The offense was the stumbling block, and it

was a big stumbling block. And sometimes when you disciple,

you see that and you say, I think he can

jump over it. You get what I'm saying I think

he can jump over it, maybe this year, this life,

or maybe he will take some time to jump over it.

I hope he jump over it, you know. But if

he learns it, his life will be okay.

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