Sermon
Questions and Answers ( Sexual Immorality) Part 2 Bishop Joel Duncan-Williams 3rd Nov 2024
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So please.
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The first question is on the screen. The persience said
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that relationships should should? I say, is the foundational basis
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that leads to sexual activities and therefore sexual immorality. So
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does it mean that we should stay away from being
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in a relationship.
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Or in whilst in a relationship?
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What are the things we can put in place to
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ensure that we don't for pray to sexual immorality?
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So please?
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Is the questions. As fans police, you can take it up.
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So once you decide to enter into a relationship, and
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you shouldn't entire relationship for seven years, it means you're
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doing what you're doing medical school. If you do four years,
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you're also doing another thing. So once you take longer
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in the relationship, it can lead to what we are
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even talking about. So if you are not ready to
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get married in two years or a year, don't even start,
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because whilst you're at it, you begin to now relate
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and begin to behave as if you're already married, and
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begin to do things that will lead to what we
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are discussing, the sexual immorality, begin to have last full
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thoughts in your mind and begin to try certain things
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because you feel, after all, we will marry. So once
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the relationship goes like seven years, you are doing medical hallelujah.
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Some I haven't going ten years, some are even going
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fifteen years. So if you're not ready to marry in
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two years or one year, there is no need to
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even enter so that it will prevent you from landing
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yourself in today's sexual immorality, which is the topic we
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are discussing this morning. Have I answered I believe, I
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hope I have answered that the person.
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Please, those of us seated, if you have a question,
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kindly let us know, all right, covery, please you can't
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go to the second question?
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Mm hmmm, so this person said that peace.
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I have had people say that a week or even
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day before marriage they have sex, So please, will they
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receive punishment from God since they weren't married yet?
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Most definitely yes. And I think I answered this question last.
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Week, and this is why I want to live.
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Punishment is punishment, punishment is, And if you have waited
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up till a week, up till a day, what is
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the point.
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I think that time the feeling is intense.
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It's like the powers there.
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So if you can true life on me, you cannot
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have sex even the day before marriage.
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It's not possible.
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And I was saying last week that when I was
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married h the brides, my wife's indirect father told me that, brother,
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you've signed the certificates tonight there must be action.
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And I said, no way, I'll marry her.
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And even if I marry her, who wait some time
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before the action takes place. So my honeymoon nights I
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was in prayer. It was my wife who kIPS with
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It was my wife. It was my wife who gives
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her puts their prayer aside, and do what you are
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supposed to do. So so you cannot have sex.
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Before.
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The best we can do for you is that we
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can give you a triarchis a few days before you marry,
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in the presence of the church, not on your own,
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not in some corner, in the presence of the church.
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We cant do that a week or a few days
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before you marry.
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Ha.
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But we can't. We can't allow you to be having sex.
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And you shouldn't have sex because you will pay for it.
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You see, where you marry, there's calculations, say calculation. We
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can calculate that this thing was before the marriage, and
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and marrying.
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The doesn't cover it up.
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Because we can still calculate that, No, you did this
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before the marriage, so please don't be having sex. You
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have sex on your honeymoon nights, not before, not after,
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height before.
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But after the year.
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You can flow, you can, it's a flowing.
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We have questions from us.
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Do you have any.
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Yes, I believe the first question there was a path
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that was not answered. He said, put it up again.
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What are he said, who else in a relationship?
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What are the things we can put in place to
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ensure that we don't for pree s?
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So you stay away and you set boundaries from certain things.
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So you don't say that we are going to pray
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in the house.
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Together and it's just you and the person, or we
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are going to do Bible steady. Then you get a
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hotel room, yes for the Bible steady.
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So like you want a serene environment and.
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There's no serene environment and a cool place. There are
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certain things you don't do it. You don't do it,
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You just don't do it. You avoid from doing it.
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You understand, do you understand? And like Reverend Frances said,
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relationship is for marriage. So if you know that you're
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not getting married in a year, you're not getting married
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two years. Don't do it because the more time you take,
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the more the feelings grow. And then you'll be doing it.
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You will be sexting and doing all kinds of things.
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Your mind has gone somewhere the way you rose your eyes. Yeah,
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you'll be sexting and doing all kinds of things. Then
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the the the what do.
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You call it?
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The excuse you give yourselves is that we are getting
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married or we feel like we're already married.
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Marriage is not a feeling. It's something you do.
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Do you understand, So don't practice things that like when
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we're children used to play mommy and Daddy. Please don't
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be playing mommy and daddy. Mommy and Daddy are not games.
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It comes with a consequence, and that consequence is that
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you will see your stomach being inflated like a ballow
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and you'll be wondering, hard did.
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I get here? You have got it st?
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Yeah?
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What the STI essentially transmitted infections?
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Yes, also STD.
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And you have also forgotten about spirit spiritually transferred. This
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is we didn't think about that one. They are spiritually transferred.
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This is yeah, that one.
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Too is one. So you have to watch out.
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Yes, yeah, And then just to add to what bishop
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has said, and even sometimes even that when it takes
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even longer maybe two three, four, five years, it doesn't always.
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There's just a percentage. It doesn't always end up in marriage.
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So it's not because maybe it's longer. So it's not
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about our mistake. It's not about our missing that because
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it's two four, five, three seven years sober.
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It's not a all missed them. So don't even start it.
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Uh huh, So don't even starts the question.
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H please, good morning.
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They were talking about the trial kise thing and stuff,
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and I was wondering that like if, for instance, if
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you kiss somebody, right, let's say, for instance, I kiss
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somebody and my friend like she goes and actually has
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sex with the person, is our punishment the same?
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Yeah?
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Yeah, so that's no trying at all.
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That's what it was.
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Just an example. There's no trying. We've got many try it,
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you go home and continue.
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Yes, But I think with the punishment side, I think, okay, listen,
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so when that you stole, if your case, we have sex,
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the only thing is that there are some of them
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that were you.
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When you do, it's your own body.
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That is where we need to really get it clear.
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All right, but when you kiss and a friend of
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those who's going to sleep with another m it's a
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little dicey. A right that it's okay, says A lot
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of people want to give excuses. Now I didn't, I
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guess give a case. This one is sex.
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I've not done.
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No.
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The mindset you see, I give it you does keys
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Jesus and the end they're off.
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You.
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That's keys.
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And you haven't seeing see sex, Amen, Barb, be sure
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you know that the person who was.
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The first question, okay.
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I think some of the things you have to do
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so that you don't engage, you don't find yourself engaging
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in sexual immorality. One, when you're in a relationship, you
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don't buy food starts and go to the guy's.
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Home to cook, to cook for him, and simple.
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You don't go there and watch for him.
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Hello.
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You don't go to him and said, let's go to
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the market together. These are things for married people.
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Change into his shirt.
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Then when you come you change, you change into a singlet,
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wear a box shots because we are home, we are cooking.
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Then after you finish eating, you'll be watching a movie. Okay,
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by the time you finished watching the movie, he would
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have scored a very nice hat trick three goals. So
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a lot of these things we do and then it's
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like we don't think about it. We don't cook, you
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don't you don't go and cook for your boyfriend in
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his home. You don't watch for him, you're not the wife.
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And these things we take them for granted it's very serious,
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but they want to find out if they are not
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to cook for him. Hey, buy it's from the roadside
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and go and.
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Give it to handy Toby and leave.
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You see, when I was, let me say, going out
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wife dating, there was you see where we started. I
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used to visit there in the room. So when I go,
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she has her own place, and then I'll go to
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the room with her. Then we are there. Then I
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realized that if I track in here, okay, because I
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mean be in the room first, I mean, what what
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WK next? What do I mean if I held it,
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I brought my mouth close to where mount Okay. Then
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because of how shy she was, Okay, she said, Jimmy,
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we can't do it.
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So that saved you.
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And can you shine anchor? He can you see?
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Okay?
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Yes?
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So right from that moment I said that I look
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I'll not visit alone, and when I visit, I'll not
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go to a room.
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So they started sitting at the gates.
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And the last time I was fitting, I said that
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somebody who was a taker came to sack me. That
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was another instant. But right from the day I thought that, look,
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I can't I can kiss here because she's when I
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try day one day to the next time should be vulnerable.
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Women are very emotional. Women are emotional in nature. Once
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you hold their hands, you hold the shoulder, you hold
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their waiste, understand that it is done. It is done.
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So once I saw I realized that no, this will
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not help me, I started meeting and answer. We sit
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at the gates, we by away together, we sit at
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the gates, we eat, and we are done.
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I don't come to a room.
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And that is it is another question.
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You can put the number on the screen if you
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are to ask, please, what's up to this?
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And said for you, So my question is is it
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still counted as six if you don't do like the thing,
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but you do mouth like oral, I don't say.
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If you see a said all our sex, I said, yeah, yeah,
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you're sacking the day you're sacking the police you don't
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want to say it, not saying this question. So you
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want to find out if sacking the place aura and
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I'm not going to you, Please ask your PRISTI.
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What's I'm showing? It's soon people looking at me?
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If if the guilt sucks the guys think and the
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guy does the guilt, is it consider sex?
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And will your punishment be the same as people who actually.
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In marriage or before marriage they're not married, they're not married,
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who are just one answer just moderating.
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Fire.
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Is it.
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Accesxual immorality? That's a sexual immorality. You're not married, you're
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having a around sex. The guys also the other way
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leaking right not you, I'm not talking about you, like
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the guy is also looking. Is it's also leaking? If
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it's not good, I wouldn't say it's not sex or
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it's sex, but it's not. It's not good, it's not good.
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I mean, what is sex? What is sex?
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Is it only when the male organ is inserted into
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the female organ? Is that the only thing we can
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say that it stritisfied sex?
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I don't think so.
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I don't think so, because people have sex and not
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with human bees, spirits come to sleep with people. Yes,
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and that is why we have to be very careful
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what we do. It's that the room is not quiet,
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you see, like we should said. If you're sleeping with
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somebody that spirits come to sleep with, you've also been
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looking up.
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Sex is not physical as you think you are enjoying. No,
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sex is more spiritual than physical.
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Because you have sex, spirits have come together and God
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recognizes it. To God recognizes So it's not like you're
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having you're having all our sex.
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So it's no sex. No, look at the.
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Name all our worlds or our sex the sex are
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so we need to be very careful.
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Hello.
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So some of us we sleep and we see, we
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see ourselves having dreams having sex, and and you wake
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up and realize that your bed is wet. It's not
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ordinary if you're here you have such issues. Please after service,
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come and see the shore. It's with you all your lady.
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You sleep, you have you have sex in your dream
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and you wake up for it. You realize the whole
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bed is messed up. Please after checking them, see it's
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not it's not a good.
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Thing, wonderful.
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And then even that's why the scripture even also says
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that if we will look upon the lady lastfully, you've
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already slept with a person.
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M please put your.
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Seven so when you can look at the lady or
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the gentleman as we see, the lady knows if I
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use your even your eyes to living undress and even
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vice versa, you've already slept with the person. So it
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so it's not only in the act. Even in their thoughts,
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say you have already slept with the person. So it's spiritual,
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like Reverend James was saying, So even they starts from
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their mind. So once you look upon the person last fully,
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once you see the person, or then you start imagining
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the thoughts, you've already slept with the person even before
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the act.
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All right, So the scriptures said that you have heard
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that it was said to those of old you shall
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not commit adultery. But I say to you that whoever
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looks at a woman to last for hair has already
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committed adultery with her in his hat.
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So this is jesus definition. There's not a dictionary definition.
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This is Jesus's definition.
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And for the example that our system made, you've gone
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further not to just look at her lastfully, where you
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have removed your clothes and you have removed everything you
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are wearing, and you are.
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If you've engaged your sexual organs.
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When you say to yourself that we are not really penetration,
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we are doing other things to eat, acolate, it's a
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sexual act. Please you understand, God bless you. Is there
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a question here, thanks, just one that we come.
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To you to.
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Before marriage, severally.
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That you don't kiss before marriage. You those are part
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of the douce, and they don't. You don't kiss before marriage.
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Anything that will lead you to imagine or think of
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having sex, don't do it. Even if you hold the
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person's hands and it takes you somewhere, don't hold the hands.
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Just distance yourself so that you can be safe.
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Because people say that I know my limits, I will
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do this, and you don't know your limits.
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We are helping you not to even get to your limits.
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So if you see the move, and even when you
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are closer to the person, don't help him. Give God
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so that you're able to save yourself and save the
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person as well. Last question, Please, then we hear from
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the panelist for the last time.
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From the first.
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Question that Francis answered, you were talking about Dayton, that
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you should date she dates maybe like two years, like
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when you already to get married. She days maybe two
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years or a year before you get married. But then
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do you actually think you're spooled to day like Dayton
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in general for.
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Even a month? Do you think you're school to days?
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Yeah?
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M yes, okay, it's Dayton like because from most of
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the things they I personally think you are not supposed
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to wait at all, not giving you for a week.
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But then from what years? What Reverend Francis said, you're
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supposed to date for like maybe a year, which I
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think isn't something good as easy?
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You said you understand yeah from.
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Asking Yeah, so.
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The year or two years that I mentioned before you
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even start, the family may have that aware.
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So that's what I'm saying.
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If you your relationship that you are engaged in is
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not leading into marriage, so one years just something that
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a number of time that I've given. But if it's
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the thing is not if it's not leading into marriage,
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and both families are also not aware. And then we
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said that you you you set boundaries, so but if
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that is leading to marriage, then yes, then that's when
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the other aspect comes in, like certain boundaries, what do
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you do so that you don't engage yourself in certain things.
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So like revenge James mentioned who mentioned some of some
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people when you hold hands, it's there's a way it
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turns you and it gives you direction. Like our father says,
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don't let your erection gives you direction. So some when
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you just hold hands, there's a way, there's a chemistry
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some of us. You should know yourself that when I
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had a lady, that's how I feel. So don't even
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indulge in it, do you see? So dating must lead
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to marriage, but if you are not ready for marriage,
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it means you're not sure of the person.
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So don't even start.
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I think that she's saying that. The question is asking
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is that is it right to date? Or is dating
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even important? You said yes, the Bible says.
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You should love your wife.
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Something about love your wife, And I remember you said,
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when God tells you.
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To do something, it's not supposed to be easy.
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You said that when tells you to do something, it's
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not easy.
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So give God the.
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Saying you should love your husband and love your suppose
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be easy. But then the whole idea of dating is
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to love the person and get married.
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When you love the person and get married.
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Loving the person in the.
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Marriage will be easy, but I give God the same
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love the person. It's not supposed to be easy.
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So if you don't, maybe I don't know the person
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and it doesn't just come to me, and then we
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get married. Love with the person will be difficult, which
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is actually how it's supposed to be. Since is a
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command from God, it's not supposed to be easy. You
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get what I'm saying.
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Yeah, So why do we date? Why do we go
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on the date? We go on the date to know
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the person very well. So now you go on the date.
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For example, let me use myself.
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All right, I started dating, then my girlfriend or then
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the leader I want to marry Sally. I started dating
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there to know hair, where she comes from, what she
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likes and home, what they do? Are they really Christians?
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These are things you get to know where you are
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dating somebody. Now in your dating process or while you
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are dating, understand that you get to know certain things,
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things you don't like about the person. Now it is
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as to you to make a decision to still go
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ahead and married a person or not. You understand now
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at that point you make a decision to still they
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married a person.
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It is now. It now moves from just ordinary dating
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to laugh in the person. Do you understand me?
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No, it is different from you not knowing all these things,
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and then ain't time to the marriag You see the
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person today, tomorrow you're married. I think that is very serious.
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You aren't time to the marriage. And then now you
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got to know that the person is not actually what
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you think the person is. Now understand that if it
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be marriage after knowing the person for two years, three years,
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four years, there are still a lot of surprises after
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you are married, which at times can even carouse divorce.
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You get it, so you can.
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Imagine you don't know any of these things at all.
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The person comes to you today, the following day you
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are married. It is going to be very well. Setain
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people that marriage has worked for them. It's been a
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straight jacket thing. The setaeople that met their spouse just
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tomorrow and then they get married the following two days
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and they are done, and they've lived for fifty years
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and they are working. But until they tell you what
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they go through in their relationship, you can't use that
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as an example. Because while I was going to marry,
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there was a couple the lady was with that was
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with their husband. So the wife was with her husband,
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and and night, I think two or three weeks after
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they marriage, they were at home and the gentlemen.
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Gave out some bad air. The lady said, is that.
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How you are? And that was it?
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That was it.
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So when I was going for counseling, they had also
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come for counseling because of a bad air. That was
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really and let me tell you the end of that matter.
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They were divorced. They divorced because of bad air. Yeah,
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you are, you're not even They tell the person you
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don't know how the s the smells. You know, there
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are so many things that causes divorce. So it's always
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good that I need you get to know if the person.
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It's not a straight jacket in a new way. That
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script trilie have to know the person for two years
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one year. And all of the Bible says they will
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come a time where a man who lives so many
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noma will leave a when the two shall be joined.
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That's what the Bible says. You get it.
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In the case of Jacob, Jacob worked for seven years.
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In other ways, he was working with the uncle seeing
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the lady wants to marry every day for seven years,
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and after that he still even they didn't get down
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the lady and where stra seven years? Fourteen years? So
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can you see somebody who also say that? But Jacob
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did it for fourteen years, so I can also date
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for fourteen years. This circumstance is a different.
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Wonderful you're not so please?
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We have we are going to give one last question
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then we would continue my history. So this person said that,
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what so what if you are an actor and your
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role is to kiss someone or you are acting as
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a husband.
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And wife, what do you do? Yeah?
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So so that is why he's an act But you see,
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I know some actors who were who are believers, like
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which I have worked with before.
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I know you knows I you don't know. Okay, yes,
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So for him, he's a Christian and believer.
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He's acted several movies and several things back you never
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see him in those scenes, but he's given roles to play,
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so he keeps his values as a believer and as
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a child of God. He's acted several sayings but you'll
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not see him with that kising a woman or having
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acting maybe a sexual and saying. You never see him
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do those things. So as a person, you must know
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who you are as a child of God. And then
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those who be open. I mean, the movie industry now
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is large. So if here is demanding this from you,
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there are other ways as well. Now the movie industry
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is opening, is so wild. So you don't you can't.
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You don't only act in one area. So yes, as
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a child of God, as a believer, know who you
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are and know that, don't be confirmed to the things
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of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of
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your mind. So if you realize that no, this is
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the same you are given. Yes, it's difficult, but this
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one is my breakthrough. It looks like the big true,
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but it can lead to other things. But I have
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been in the movie in the Stree and I know
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some of the things that are done in there. I
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mean it's crazy. So rather flee, flee, run away from it.
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Other rose will come. Other people will can't contact you.
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If that's what you want to do. Transtgord with it.
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You know, don't lean on your own understanding, just believe
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in there will be other movie industries.
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I will call you and even give you rose.
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In fact, those same movie industry can give you rose
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that you don't need to kiss, you don't need to
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act sexual scenes, and then you'll be fine.
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Amen,