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Discipleship | Pr Matthew Chang

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  1. So we always talk about, you know, the disciples of Jesus,

  2. but you know, we're gonna explore another relationship between Paul

  3. and Timothy. It's good, you know, instead of like just

  4. having coming up with, uh, you know, some ideas for discipleship.

  5. I think it's good also sometimes to look at the

  6. Bible to see how this relationship or discipleship transpire or

  7. unfolds between Paul and Timothy. It's quite unique. It's kind

  8. of like they are near, but they are not near

  9. but yet. Through the letters and then the challenges that

  10. both of them face, we discover some of the key

  11. things that comes up from the heart of Paul what

  12. he truly desires Timothy to catch. And I think from

  13. there we can really learn a lot as we also

  14. practice discipleship or you know, as to be as a disciple.

  15. And also eventually some of you also given the opportunity

  16. and blessing to disciple others as well. Okay, so we're

  17. gonna go through the entire Chapter one. Maybe some parts

  18. I might I might not skip, depending on the time.

  19. But before I start, you know, I want you guys,

  20. when you to to have a mindset when you read

  21. the Bible. I always say okay, okay.

  22. Uh.

  23. It's important that when you read the Bible. Very important rule,

  24. very very important rule. When you read the Bible, don't

  25. look for yourself? Okay?

  26. What do I mean by that?

  27. When you look for when you read the Bible, don't

  28. ask what's in it for me? How does this, you know,

  29. connect to how I feel? Now?

  30. Oh?

  31. If this I read, reveticus Ah doesn't connect to me.

  32. I today come to Sunday, this pastor talking about discipleship again.

  33. But I feel down. I need guidance. I don't need

  34. discipleship right now. So God is not around here. Uh.

  35. Maybe you know, I feel like I want to talk

  36. about you know. Uh, you know, maybe I'm depressed. I

  37. just broke up, you know, but this pastor talking up

  38. talking about missions you know, how to connect, you know,

  39. connect a lot of people.

  40. This sad. No, God, it's not right because you're always looking.

  41. For yourself, always looking for yourself, and because of that,

  42. things can pass you by a different passage, a different pastor,

  43. a different set not encounter because you're always looking for yourself.

  44. And that's why, Because because of that, a lot of

  45. the Bible will not speak to you. And you are

  46. blinded by a lot of things, and you get tired,

  47. you get weary, you get discouraged, and after that you

  48. stop reading and you stop just reading it.

  49. When you stop, when you.

  50. Stop reading the Bible, you are basically saying that God,

  51. I really like faivor that you really can speak to

  52. me really okay. And so instead of looking for yourself

  53. when you read the scripture, the perspective that we ought

  54. to carry and to put on is that when you

  55. read the Bible, look for God.

  56. Always mindset?

  57. Where is God?

  58. You know what I'm saying?

  59. Now? Where is God? I always say that the Bible, okay,

  60. requires us to have critical thinking. You know why?

  61. It's critical thinking? No? Are you guys just being shy?

  62. Okay? How many of you know that when you apply

  63. for just nowadays, the requirement is have critical thinking?

  64. You know what it's critical thinking? Critical thinking?

  65. Is it? Does it mean that you're always very critical

  66. and skeptical, you know, having a very strong skepticism. I'm

  67. just really a critical person. No, that's not critical thinking.

  68. Critical the world actually means, you know, to put simplify it,

  69. it's called judgment thinking. Okay, not judging a person, but

  70. judgment thinking. The opposite of critical thinking is that instead

  71. of thinking for yourself, you are being told what to believe.

  72. AH understand, you like to be told and the ward

  73. likes to tell you what to believe. So judgment thinking

  74. means it's like you're in the court room. There is

  75. a prosecution table and there's a defendant table. When you

  76. are a judge, when you are a critical thinker, you

  77. judge that like the Bible says, able to divide clearly

  78. what is right and what is wrong, Able to divide

  79. as God divided the light from the darkness, the land

  80. and the seas, the heavens and the heavens. God has

  81. also given us the ability to clearly divide things. When

  82. you are unable to divide things, that is where you

  83. lose the glory of God, because your world now becomes

  84. your world goes into chaos. When there's no clear division,

  85. there's only chaos. And that's what the world likes to

  86. tell you. There is no right and there's no wrong,

  87. and what you introduce is chaos. You find you think

  88. it's free, it feels free, but you are actually living

  89. in chaos. I understand why I'm saying now, So judgment

  90. and wisdom is very important in our lives. So we

  91. need to apply critical thinking to be able to decide,

  92. to learn to hear what God is speaking, what the

  93. world is speaking?

  94. Again, clear divide is it the world?

  95. Is it God? And you are able to compare what

  96. is true, what is wrong? What is eternal? What is propaganda?

  97. What is wisdom? You ge know what I mean? Right?

  98. So judgment tells you you are able to weigh. You

  99. are able to weigh, You're able to use a measurement.

  100. You're able to see whether it's accurate, whether it's complete

  101. or not.

  102. And that's why.

  103. There's what.

  104. There's why.

  105. In companies, you are always looking for people who are

  106. able to have critical skills because they are just like

  107. they got company. Just tell me what to do, tell

  108. me what to do, tell me what to do any problem,

  109. Tell me what to do, tell me what to do,

  110. tell me what to do me and you like that,

  111. tell employee all you want an employee, you say, oh God,

  112. customer poor feedback, instead of like, go to the boss

  113. what to do, and so I know how to solve.

  114. I need to hear it's not the customer's fault.

  115. I need to look exactly what's the problem You're telling

  116. and then you come out with a solution. Then you

  117. meet your boss with a problem and a solution makes

  118. sense or not. That is why companies require critical thinking.

  119. There is where it's so less. So it's so missing

  120. in the world right now. But the world I just

  121. want to keep telling you, telling you don't I don't

  122. want to think. Just tell me what to do. Just

  123. tell me what to do. When you tell me what

  124. to do and it fuse, right, then it's the truth reading.

  125. That is the wrong thing. You have not exercised the

  126. critical thinking. And I want to let you know that

  127. our Christian Bible, our Christian faith, it is not it

  128. is faith, but it is not a blind faith.

  129. It's not a blind faith that has no foundation.

  130. Did you know that the whole entire world operates on faith,

  131. It rotates on faith, It moves on faith.

  132. That this morning, when you come, you came on faith

  133. as well.

  134. That way you are sitting right now, did you check

  135. did you get an auditor to check that that seat

  136. will be will fit you? Did you check where you're

  137. gonna eat for lunch to make sure that you're gonna

  138. get not get foot poinson me?

  139. Did you ask your mother tonight you're gonna have a

  140. bed to sleep.

  141. Everything operates on faith, but reasonable faith. Well that was

  142. a very quick monologue. You're saying what I'm saying now,

  143. everything operates on faith. But so don't let anyone despise

  144. that you operate on faith. It's just that when you

  145. start to have closed my eyes said, oh, just operates

  146. on faith. There are they are? They are creatures of

  147. the door door age. You know they have they are extinct,

  148. unsuitable for a present modern living. Nonsense, nonsense. Everybody operates

  149. on faith. But it's reasonable faith. You must have a

  150. reason for your faith and you move on. You know what,

  151. this is very very important.

  152. Okay.

  153. So I really don't like when Christians tell me and oh,

  154. just by fair No, it's reasonable faith, you guy. I'm saying,

  155. you know, there's reasonable faith. The hope that we have

  156. is a reasonable substantiated faith.

  157. Okay.

  158. So so when we read through the Bible here today,

  159. so apply critical thinking, okay, and apply a mindset when you.

  160. Read, always ask God, where are you?

  161. Are you here? Are you there? But sometimes you ask, hey,

  162. why is this door position to the west. You're like,

  163. is this a silly question? No? I tell you more

  164. than often not. That question that you ask with critical

  165. thinking will lead somewhere in the Bible. More than That's

  166. how I learn money on I learned by most of

  167. the most time. I A O, why there table must

  168. be this long? Why this place must be facing this direction?

  169. But must he come from that place? You just ask

  170. critical thinking question, never taking anything for granted. And more

  171. than often and not, the Bible is faithful to tell you,

  172. and you discover more than anything else. I'm saying a

  173. Bible is true and faithful God. Remember this, Our God

  174. is faithful to inspire and to preserve his word. You know,

  175. I must understand now God is faithful to inspire and

  176. to preserve his word. You're not faithful one and on

  177. you know true and true.

  178. Now let's move.

  179. Let's let's read the word of God from Second Timothy

  180. Chapter one. Okay, first one Paul and a parcel of

  181. Jesus Christ, by the will of God according to the

  182. promise of life which is in Christ Jesus, So Timothy

  183. a beloved son, grace, mercy and peace from God the

  184. Father and Christ Jesus our Lord. I thank God whom

  185. I serve with a pure conscience, as my forefathers did

  186. as without seizing. I remember you in my prayers night

  187. and day, greatly desiring to see you, being mindful of

  188. your tears, that I may be filled with joy when

  189. I call to remembrance the genuine faith that is in you,

  190. which dwelt first in your grandmother Louise and your mother Eunice.

  191. And I am persuaded it is in you also.

  192. Therefore I remind you to stir up the gift of

  193. God which is in you through the laying on of

  194. my hands. For God has not given us a spirit

  195. of fear, but of power, and of love and of.

  196. A sound mine.

  197. Hey man, amen.

  198. So this is the first part.

  199. Okay, Now let's explore this discipleship relationship that they have.

  200. So it's quite emotional that Paul starts off by saying

  201. that he remembers Timothy, and he's also remembering not just Timothy,

  202. but the hardship and the tears that Timothy is going

  203. through as well. Now, Paul, at this time, he's in

  204. prison where prison where.

  205. Anybody? In Rome?

  206. In Rome, he was in prisoned twice, okay twice. The

  207. first time he was in a house. If you read

  208. the Book of Acts towards the end, there Okay, after

  209. he was arrested in Jerusalem. You know that he had

  210. this journey and then hit the shipwreck and then landed

  211. and then he walked all the way to Rome. He

  212. was first placed in house arrest. He was very confident

  213. that he will be acquitted because he also is a

  214. Roman citizen Germany Knight.

  215. He was.

  216. He was quite confident he was under house arrest. But

  217. the second time things change. The political scene and the

  218. countries and the call it the feelings and the people's uh,

  219. what do you call it? Impression of Christians changed dramatically

  220. due to one major event, which is the fire in Rome.

  221. Changed completely from there and because of that event, the

  222. Christians were persecuted.

  223. Letter I will explain on.

  224. And then Paul was you can say it once they upgraded,

  225. you know, but he was downgraded to a prison and

  226. not a prison arrest. So from a house arrest to

  227. a prison arrest. And is when he actually writes this letter,

  228. and he knew, he is pretty certain in his heart

  229. that thing has changed, and then he will die soon,

  230. he will die. So this is actually his final letter,

  231. that known letter that he has written, and he writes

  232. it to Timothy. Now let's understand a bit about Timothy

  233. as well. Who is Timothy. Let's start with his parentage.

  234. His father is a is a Greek, and his mother

  235. is what it's a Jew And he also has a grandmother.

  236. Both the mother and grandmother are known by Paul. Paul

  237. actually knew their grandmother and mother first, Louise and Eunie.

  238. Okay.

  239. Louis and Eunis are both Jewish ladies, okay, and.

  240. They raised him up.

  241. And not only that, the scripture here says that in

  242. verse five, when I call to remembrance the genuine faith

  243. that is in you, which dwell first in your grandmother

  244. Louis and your mother Eunice. So Paul sees something in Timothy.

  245. But when he looks at this genuine faith that he

  246. found in Timothy, it also brings him to realization that

  247. it is the same thing found in the mother and

  248. grandmother first.

  249. So he comes to realize.

  250. So if I say, for example, if I look at

  251. Pastor John, you know, I look at you, you know,

  252. as I say, hey, there's something in you, and I

  253. realized that it is not a coincidence, not a coincidence.

  254. It is coming from what they call it, your parents,

  255. and that leads me to a conclusion. What there was

  256. an impartation. There is an impartation happening there. So the

  257. mother and grandmother was doing some work. Okay, it is

  258. not So it's a great encouragement that you are where

  259. you are not by coincidence. You know people, you are

  260. where you are not by coincidence. One and you must

  261. realize parents and it is very important that you have

  262. a big responsibility and a huge impact in influencing and imparting,

  263. not just influencing an imparting, imparting something, whether for good

  264. or for worse, you have a huge impact on that.

  265. When you have a If a parent have a very

  266. strong spirit of fear, chances are I'm not saying definitely

  267. will be, but it's a very strong likelihood that fear.

  268. If you're uncontrolled, you keep exhibiting it, your child will

  269. inherit it as well. The parents know what I'm talking about,

  270. isn't it? You know? Parents know what I'm talking about

  271. because when you raise chit kids like I do, a

  272. lot of times you see something you don't like. The

  273. first thing is a lot of times you don't blame

  274. the children, You blame yourself because you see yourself first,

  275. you see a mirror, and your conscience bears witness to that.

  276. Why is it because of me? You man?

  277. You realize that when you don't realize it. But it's true.

  278. All of us impart something, whether directly or indirectly, whether

  279. it's what you spoke you didn't spoke, or whether they

  280. are observing you are imparting something, especially spirits, spirits of fear, rejection, insecurity,

  281. all these things. But when you have a spirit that

  282. is pure sincerity, full of hope, you get men full

  283. of faith, generosity. You choose to forgive regardless. You impact

  284. something to your children as well. Sometimes even if you're wrong,

  285. you will say some I'm sorry, you willed it. You

  286. willed it. And because you chose to forgive and ask

  287. for forgiveness, your children caught something that they cannot shake

  288. off because they have.

  289. To ask what does this mean to me? It's I

  290. grow up?

  291. What does it mean to be a real man? What

  292. does it mean to be a real woman? You got

  293. I'm saying? You know you have to ask that question,

  294. because all of us ask that question. You say, am

  295. I if I'm making sense, if I'm really really making it?

  296. Why is it to be a real man, what is it?

  297. Does it mean to be a husband? That's meant to

  298. be a wife? No? No, the school doesn't teach us. The

  299. world doesn't teach us, or they try to teach us.

  300. They try to tell you what it is, but you

  301. don't see the surgical uh, the surgical where they call

  302. it implication, or the things happening, the screws happening inside

  303. a home that tells me, this is the reality of

  304. a mother and a father, a husband and a wife.

  305. You I'm saying, no, that's reality.

  306. And so we have a huge influence okay, and an

  307. impact on our children. And so Paul says, I see

  308. something beautiful. I see a genuine faith. Now. The thing,

  309. the beautiful thing is that about the Jewish community there

  310. is quite unique. Is that you must understand when they

  311. most of the people in the ancient times, they don't

  312. have scholar ruanda or scholar manana. Okay, they don't have

  313. public schools. It's not instituted at the time. Most kids

  314. don't have access to studying. Okay, it's only for the wealthy,

  315. also for the really really really talented okay. But in

  316. ours but when God's saved, you know, all the Israelites.

  317. He mandated one thing. What is it? What? He mandated

  318. that the parents teach the children the laws of God.

  319. That let it not depart from their wow and their

  320. going in and they're going out. So what does that mean?

  321. It means the father and the mother has to learn

  322. the law. The father has to teach them. Now how

  323. to learn if you are illiterate, So I don't know words,

  324. so I have to make myself Noah, you I mean right?

  325. And so because of this God's mandate for the people

  326. of Israel, it literally upgraded the society to literacy. You know,

  327. in their every house shool instead of coming to school.

  328. He makes sure that every home is a school.

  329. Ah, amazing, It's an amazing thing.

  330. You know. God is always thinking about advancing us one.

  331. I know you know what I mean saying, So instill

  332. learning the things of the world. Start in your home

  333. and teach, parents teach. But nowadays we outsource everything. We

  334. are living in the world of outsourcing.

  335. True or not.

  336. You don't believe me, Look at check JIPT check Gipt

  337. means outsourcing, true or not. It is outsourcing. You're outsourcing

  338. help and intelligence. Don't I don't want to think do

  339. thing for me, You process for me, you analyze for me. Outsourcing.

  340. Everybody wants to outsource. We've seen it work before. Economies

  341. of scale makes a lot of sense. I'm an analyst. Okay,

  342. I supplied, I study supply chain and everything. Okay, everybody

  343. wants to outsource. I want to outsource my faith as well.

  344. I want to outsource my children as well. Why they teach?

  345. Send them the best schooler, then they teach when they

  346. come home. They behave to the way. I blame the principal,

  347. I bring the teacher. I want to outsource my kids

  348. Christianity as well. Get the kids to do it, not

  349. the not not my self teaching it. Get the school,

  350. the preacher, past it, gets campus and X thing to

  351. do it.

  352. Outsourcing. We love to outsource people.

  353. We love it because you know why, it's easier to

  354. not bear the blame the others. You know, I love

  355. to outsource. We're outsourcing generation. Okay, so really please, we

  356. really have to understand it. When you're outsourced everything, when

  357. the thing that gets cut off, you are left with nothing.

  358. You know, now, you know because of outsourcing, we have

  359. a trade war right now. It's happening becau So this

  360. whole world went into this globalization mode. Everything was outsourced

  361. and then suddenly that we're okay, no, because we lost

  362. all the jobs already.

  363. Everybody has a problem.

  364. Everybody.

  365. I'm not I'm gonna take side.

  366. Everybody now has Everybody is scrambling right now because everybody

  367. is so dependent on one There is no self where

  368. they call it where they call it resourcefulness, that is

  369. coming from a home.

  370. It's what one day is what? There is no school?

  371. What one day there is no church?

  372. How are you going to be able to teach your

  373. children if you are not actively imparting on it. This

  374. today's amur fil s life for family, for the young family.

  375. We're telling all the children now, okay, you all will

  376. become future parents. Okay, so the children are not exempted

  377. and about we're telling our parents as well. Please don't outsource. Okay,

  378. please don't outsource. But I want so There's a lot

  379. of things that I want to say here. Discipleship happens

  380. at home. Discipleship happens at home. Yes, we make disciples

  381. first by discipleship patents at home. That means before you

  382. are a parent, before your mother and father, you are

  383. a disciple first. I'm talking to the parents first. Before

  384. you are a parent, You're a disciple first. So important,

  385. it's so important. How can you tell your children to

  386. follow when you yourself are not following, You're not behold

  387. on to anything. Parents need to be disciple first. I

  388. know sometimes you might find it. Oh how can I

  389. find someone I can respect? I don't know what background

  390. you have my stuff like that, But you need to

  391. be submitted. You must have a pattern of discipline in

  392. your life. Don't just have someone about you must have

  393. a pattern.

  394. Of discipline there is godly. You know you have me right.

  395. Do you have a pattern of discipline that is godly?

  396. Have you met a disciple?

  397. There is no discipline one brustly just practice whenever one

  398. you know what disciple it is. No, there is a

  399. pattern of a discipline, a body of discipline of work

  400. they follow through one.

  401. So parents must firstly be a disciple. And I tell

  402. you that.

  403. Because of this outsourcing which I want to learn on,

  404. is that parents we see because I go to many

  405. church plants and I see not just our church plant

  406. I go to, I go to the prevos, go to

  407. see other places as well. I see this thing or

  408. parents like to outsource and because of their parents. We

  409. have lost a generation of parents who have lost the

  410. concept of worshiping God. They have not worship God. They

  411. come to church just because I'm doing it for my kids.

  412. I come to church because I only attend the church.

  413. But if they only have kids service, they have friends

  414. for them, for my children to hang out with, and

  415. that is their basis for choosing a church. I want

  416. to tell you that I want to start my not

  417. knocking people up, but I want to start your that

  418. parenting is the most critical stage and the most difficult

  419. stage for.

  420. Adults to worship God.

  421. It's true because you know why your life is no

  422. longer your own, your kids have taken it away from you.

  423. It's true. You know you want to wake up and

  424. come on time to church. Your kids is a challenge. Ready,

  425. I've been there. Some of you are halfway through my summer.

  426. You're thinking about way to go for lunch for your kids. Ready,

  427. You're like, oh, yes, pastor, Yes, it's true.

  428. It's a challenge.

  429. It's the hardest because nothing has demanded more from you

  430. as a parent. But yet you still like you know

  431. this pastor like trying to wake us to come to

  432. her church. Last stuff like that he doesn't understand us,

  433. or this pastor too young, no, no, even have kids,

  434. cannot tell us. I want to let you know that

  435. the first parent they came to worship God was Abraham.

  436. Abraham their worship. Abraham did not bring his son, who

  437. was meant to be a sacrifice, up to that mountain

  438. and to listen to Bethel's songs. You know, he didn't

  439. have a pastor preaching there. You know, his worship started

  440. at home, waking up in the morning, bringing his children,

  441. dying to self, dying to his dreams that he cannot

  442. see whether there's a hopefully job. But he said, God,

  443. if you say you have been with me for ninety

  444. nine years and I had these children right now, I

  445. will still worship you, and I carry that die to myself,

  446. how hard it is, and carrying the things that will

  447. burn my own dad, supply my owners. I bring also,

  448. and I climb up that mountain and I worship you.

  449. We have lost a generation of Abrahams you. I'm saying,

  450. we lost a generation. Ever, so what we need it's

  451. not parents who also we need. We need parents who

  452. worship God. We need parents who worship God. We don't

  453. need parents who attend church. You know, we need parents

  454. who worship God. So if you come, just the fact

  455. that I acknowledge that you come, just to wake up

  456. from your bed and to say that, wow, you know,

  457. despite me thinks really wanting to take a break because

  458. my kids gave me a really tough night last night.

  459. You have no idea. I only slept two hours. I

  460. know I've been there.

  461. It's hard, and it's so tempting to say that POSTI

  462. will understand if he doesn't understand. It's not my pastority we

  463. say that. I'm not saying you're a bad person, because

  464. that's what the enemy right to throw blah blah blah,

  465. and not you will do it. They will give one

  466. thousand and one reason to justify that you are right,

  467. you are, you are victim, mind that you are not

  468. fail you're not understood, and blame everybody else.

  469. But there's only one reason.

  470. Will you do it by faith? That's only asking now,

  471. the only reason, because I encountered it, I said, would

  472. you do it by faith? Do you really believe that

  473. doing it that nobody else could see but only for

  474. the audience of one that God will see it. That

  475. that is the only worship that actually means to God

  476. only worship that means nothing else, means that you choose.

  477. You choose. I wake up and I stand.

  478. I don't know how children. I probably by the end

  479. of the day hour will be put.

  480. But I still choose.

  481. That is worship, not singing and dan singing. All that

  482. is worship people me showing up and my children every

  483. day every Sunday. See that I come up and I

  484. do it. Why did she do it?

  485. Whether I'm sick or so, she will still a God

  486. to a church.

  487. And I see it. There's a conviction, and I see.

  488. You know, more importantly, your children see the reality of God.

  489. In your life. Oh agree?

  490. Now, this is what they ultimately see is not ritual

  491. of what they want to see is the right art,

  492. which is the reality of God in your life.

  493. That is what worship is.

  494. Worship is about bringing the reality of God in our lives.

  495. I know some of you might not like it, but

  496. our preach it some parts you know. I mean, I

  497. gotta tell you straight to your face. It is about

  498. assuring and inviting the reality of God. That is why

  499. some people who still come to church but they don't worship.

  500. I'm not saying it, but I don't want a home

  501. in the place. Hey, how come my children come to

  502. extra God, come to any church or anything. They still

  503. act like that one because you never bring the reality

  504. of God in your life. It's true, and that makes

  505. me guilty as well, makes me responsible as well, all

  506. of us responsible to bring in the reality of God.

  507. You know, I'm saying, No, it happened to an entire

  508. nation Israel, and now you can save them from Egypt.

  509. But the real God, it's not present in them, and

  510. they can still commit adult tree, yeah, idol, the tree. Yeah.

  511. What I'm saying. We must never forsake worship of God.

  512. And I tell you worship begins from your home, waking

  513. up and trying be Abraham's people. By faith. You come

  514. nothing else by faith.

  515. Okay, So I really, you know, I just felt the

  516. word is not worship.

  517. So don't let the don't let the devil, don't let

  518. your self pity, don't let all the flesh really take

  519. us away from what true worship really really means, when

  520. the power of worship in our homes, to our children,

  521. to our the heritage that they can have when you're

  522. no longer around, what do you give them? Money? Or

  523. the reality of God, that who will hold your hand

  524. when you're not around the reality of God. The hope, well,

  525. that will extend even beyond this line. Work with them

  526. that you're not around when they think they're all one

  527. is the reality of God. You say what I'm saying

  528. around nothing shakes them or nothing snatches them away from

  529. suicidal thoughts, from bad from bad intention.

  530. People accept the reality of God in your lives.

  531. Let's move on. I've got I made some what do

  532. they call it, some slight here. So so the first one,

  533. Timothy's heritage, we identify that he had a genuine faith,

  534. that it was imparted from the women. Let's move on

  535. to oh yeah, and in verse six he says, here therefore,

  536. I remind you to stir up the gift of God

  537. which is in you through the laying of my hands.

  538. So the first part is to making sure, okay, that

  539. discipleship starts at home. The second thing is that you

  540. must be able to identify a genuine faith disciples Okay.

  541. What it means that when you say genuine faith, right,

  542. it means that when you are in the disciple relationship,

  543. your first priority is not whether to I think meet

  544. up is good. You know, hearing the problems is good.

  545. But the most important thing in the discipleship is to

  546. identify a genuine faith because if they do not have

  547. a genuine faith here, that is your first thing you've

  548. got to tackle.

  549. With a genuine faith. Do they know God personally? Parents?

  550. Do?

  551. That's your children know God personally? And do they after

  552. they do?

  553. They do?

  554. You know?

  555. What?

  556. What? What? What is that?

  557. What comes up from a genuine faith? But is godly desires?

  558. You know we cannot have with a genuine faith and

  559. ungodly desires. One know, you're a new creation man. So

  560. one of the things we see in a child or

  561. in any person is that do they have a new

  562. godly desire? I want to know God. I want to

  563. be a big in church a little bit longer. I

  564. want to be a big kinder. I want to let

  565. go of things a bit more. The genuine I know

  566. sometimes he goes up and down. But a genuine faith

  567. and your desires have changed.

  568. What you like and what you.

  569. Don't have changeing on is transforming on. So there's our

  570. job as a disciple. As a disciple, if you're discipling someone,

  571. your job is to fine is there a genuine faith,

  572. because that genuine fin will bring you as a disciple

  573. per personal and sometimes if you are not discipling someone

  574. without genuine faith, you can attend to the fella. But

  575. I tell you it's also an opportunity for the devil

  576. to attack you. You know, you can invest someone so

  577. much in someone and you're seeing all the results are

  578. and then not because just like that statch away by God,

  579. because you have failed to identify a genuine faith, just

  580. as Jesus you know, I mean right, genuine faith. I'm

  581. not saying that he made a mistake, but he allowed

  582. as well. But there's a danger people can follow around

  583. but yet not have a genuine faith in You must

  584. be very careful to identify the people around you, your

  585. children are, whether they are a genuine faith you gotta

  586. mean right. That will clearly divide in your life what

  587. you ought to do, what you ought to prioritize.

  588. And what not to do and not prioritize. Okay.

  589. Now, the second thing is that we ought to stir

  590. up the gift of one another.

  591. Okay.

  592. The role of a discipline is to stir up the gift.

  593. So Paul is writing from a prison, and the thing

  594. that he reminds of to Timothy when he hears that

  595. Timothy is going through many challenges. Oh yeah, bit, by

  596. the way, I think this is important before I forget sorry,

  597. I'm a bit everywhere. Let's find out what are the

  598. challenges that Timothy actually has to go through. Timothy is

  599. probably like twenty to thirty or very young. Okay, Henny's

  600. a quite a powerful young man. He's so committed to

  601. the Causer that even though at that time the Jerusalem

  602. Council had decided Christians do not need to be circumciser, okay,

  603. do not need to be circumcised to become christiansen, Timothy

  604. agreed with Paul to be circumcised. He agreed in not

  605. because it is the lawful thing to do, but he

  606. gave up his right for the greater good. I mean, right,

  607. the world is always fighting for your right as to

  608. to fight for your right.

  609. It's all right, it's all right, it's all right, it's

  610. your right.

  611. It's your right right.

  612. Jesus gave up his right.

  613. I want one day, if if I chance, I'll teach

  614. you guys out how the world thinks from God. The

  615. world will think about wakism and of fluidity, your rights

  616. and all and then the world. And now I'll tell

  617. you how the world thinks in terms of communion, baptism.

  618. God gave up everything. They will tell you it's your body,

  619. you have your right. God gave up his body so

  620. that you have a right. Totally opposite. You know, I'm

  621. saying that he's gonna the word tell you it's your body.

  622. Fight for your right. God gave up his body broken

  623. so that you can have the right to become children.

  624. Instead of fighting for your own, God said, give it

  625. away so that others may have. That is what parenting is.

  626. You know, you give up your life, your body so

  627. that others may have. You know, that's the beauty of

  628. a family. You know you understand what I'm saying. Now,

  629. do not let That's why you must have critical thinking.

  630. Don't let the world tell you just because it feels right,

  631. just because it sounds free, just because you watch some

  632. Disney Shore mix it right and on. It's true. The

  633. propaganda they have, my goodness, that's why they watch movies.

  634. They just tell you.

  635. They tell you you don't have to think, and then

  636. they add a movie and emotional layer, so that and

  637. how it becomes see into your life as a value system.

  638. You know, do you realize that, No, they sear it

  639. into your value system, but you don't think. I don't

  640. want day, I'll deconstruct it again. But it's true, it's true. Okay,

  641. So stir up the gift. Sorry, I'm going everywhere. That's

  642. very passionate about it. Sorry, Okay, it's okay. Sorry, I'm

  643. very passionate. Okay, to stir up the gift. Okay, because

  644. gifts must be stirred, because it can be suppressed. You see,

  645. you sometimes when you see a child, they have many talents,

  646. but then they come and tell you, oh, I'm sorry.

  647. I feel very scared to do it. I'm scared that

  648. people might perceive me as being proud, very not ego.

  649. Or maybe what if I disappoint people, if I'm not

  650. good enough, or what if my gifts are not actually real?

  651. Maybe I misconfuse myself so many things. You know. So

  652. when you hear that, when you see that, right, we're

  653. not asking as a parent from a good source, from

  654. a right perspective, it's someone who truly loves, is godly

  655. and understanding. When you look at a person like that, okay,

  656. you start to question.

  657. All these feelings from God. Yes it's real, but doesn't

  658. mean it is from God.

  659. You can't saying it not a lot of times people

  660. validate just because it's real. But I'm telling you take

  661. it another further. Is it from God? Doesn't mean it's real,

  662. means you have to be a prison and all of

  663. it makes sense. It's very important. Not just because my

  664. feelings are really doesn't mean I'm a prisoner.

  665. I have to ask is it from God?

  666. Because even though it's real, but it's not from God,

  667. what do I do? I have to fight? I have

  668. to be strong you I'm saying or not. Don't let

  669. the world they take your options that you're either we

  670. see and surrender. But there's another option that's quite critical

  671. thinking or finding another option. The option that comes from

  672. God is to be strong and to be very courageous.

  673. What the world never will tell you. You gotta be strong,

  674. you gotta fight, you gotta persevere, you gotta hope. You

  675. got I'm saying or not, these are the things that

  676. you gotta have. These are the things that me as

  677. Pera want to see in my children.

  678. Strong. Not just here always validating your feelings.

  679. Yes it's important, but be strong that's the outcome that

  680. you need to have.

  681. Not understanding you not strong. You know what I'm saying.

  682. No understanding is the process to be strong, not just

  683. to stay where you are. So we need their gifts

  684. to be stirred and to differentiate the fear that comes,

  685. the fear that comes not from God, the fear that

  686. comes from the evil one. To stir means to kindle

  687. a fire. You know you're going stir. So our job

  688. as a deserter is to stir. Our job as parents,

  689. as brothers and sister is to stir. Hey, what you're

  690. doing is an encouragement. Don't let the fear die you down.

  691. We have to stir one another. Yes, you make mistakes,

  692. Yes sometimes you are learning. But stir in godliness and humility.

  693. Stir one another because why because Paul? Because when when

  694. Paul looks at Timothy, Timothy is actually going through so

  695. many challenges. He sorry, he has to be what he

  696. has to appoint he was a pastor. He has to

  697. appoint elders. It's not easy. How how many of you

  698. like to appoint elders in the church. Appoint elders That

  699. means a human problem. You know, do you know that

  700. you think appointing people is easier. You appointed, but once

  701. your disappoint people are it's very hard. Right now, people

  702. will say you are disappointing. It's very hard to bring

  703. people down. Why now, what if that person you're appointed

  704. it's not competent enough, has character flaws, deep character flaws.

  705. He has to appoint elders. He is to combat false

  706. teachers and greed in the church. Okay, false teachers are

  707. howemy off? You're ready to do apologetics that would probably

  708. take you up full time radio. Okay. You have to

  709. preserve sound doctrine, not just to combat then you have

  710. to feed your congregation as well. You need to minister

  711. to the poor and the waders. And you need to

  712. regulate conducts of men and women in the church. They

  713. are not appropriate as well as a twenty to thirty

  714. year old man to order. You put a job description

  715. like that in job straight right now, I don't think

  716. it will get any and any application now someone zero payer, Yeah,

  717. I mean right, but he sees the thing he sees

  718. like what Timothy is is going to exist.

  719. He poor feels for him.

  720. He sent you to ministry. But yet you are among wolves,

  721. among people who are who are are hungry as well.

  722. But Paul remembers the gifting. He remembers, he recollects the

  723. same that was in your mother, the same that was

  724. in your grandmother. I see that faith, and I've witnessed

  725. your gifting, and I know and I know that it

  726. is not a coincidence. You can mean, I so discipless disciples, masters,

  727. but certainty of faith and hope and determination, the type

  728. of belief that you have as a parent for your

  729. children as well.

  730. I know.

  731. Because of maybe one loss in a in a game,

  732. maybe someone you know insulted you or not jear you down,

  733. doesn't mean you stop giving up on this degree or

  734. this serving on this ministry just because you feel it's

  735. no I have this certainty of faith. Do not let

  736. the fear control you. Do not keep stirring the gift

  737. you get me right, stir it up so that you

  738. become the fire that you need to be. Okay, Next one,

  739. let's read from chapter eight, verse eight. Therefore, do not

  740. be a shame of the testimony of our Lord, nor

  741. of me his prisoner, but share with me in the

  742. suffering for the gospel according to the power of God

  743. who has saved us and called us with a holy calling,

  744. not according to our works, but according to his own

  745. purpose and grace, which was given to us in Christ

  746. Jesus before time began, but has now been revealed by

  747. the appearing of our Savior, Jesus Christ, who has abolished

  748. death and broad life and immortality to light through the

  749. Gospel to which I was appointed a preacher and apostle

  750. and a teacher to the gentiles. For this reason I

  751. also suffer these things. Nevertheless, I am not ashamed, for

  752. I know whom I have believed, and am persuaded that

  753. he is able to keep what I've committed to him

  754. until that very day. Okay, let me just add one

  755. two more versus. Okay, verse thirteen. How fast then to

  756. the pattern of sound words which you have heard from

  757. me in faith and love, which are in Christ Jesus,

  758. that good thing which was committed to you, underlying that

  759. keep by the Holy Spirit who dwells in us. All right,

  760. let me close, you know, with two more points.

  761. Then I will close it. Okay.

  762. The third thing one miss must do when we disciple

  763. someone is to make sure that they are not a

  764. shame of the Gospel. They must are not a shame

  765. of the Gospel. Why did Paul talks about being a

  766. shame of the gospel? I told you before and that

  767. at that time, Paul knows you was dying, and there

  768. were The sentiment around Christians has changed dramatically, and you

  769. will see you as I explain, you will see a

  770. lot of parallelism or similarities in our current world. Today,

  771. Christianity is thought off. Okay, it's like a offshoot of

  772. the College of Judaism.

  773. Okay.

  774. The Jews were okay with him until a certain point.

  775. The Pagans and all the Romans, the Greeks are okay

  776. with him until a certain point.

  777. And then a fire broke out.

  778. In Rome, big huge fire by this guy and all

  779. and you started during the time of Emperor ne Rome.

  780. Some people say it was started by him. Some people

  781. say that it couldn't be him because he was in

  782. another place. We don't know, Okay, I have my inclination.

  783. I think it's probably him. That's my own perspective. But

  784. why would he want to burn half of Rome down?

  785. Because it was well documented that he didn't like how

  786. Rome looked. One part of Rome was very grand and luxurious,

  787. marble buildings, great architecture, but other part of Rome. The

  788. city was like a slum. If you've been to Philippines,

  789. I've been to Manila, Wanza, Okay, beautiful places were like

  790. high building a but you turned around corner, it's like

  791. a slum and literally dark and.

  792. It's not just slummer.

  793. It's dark and on. It was one time I was

  794. in Manila. I was with two other brothers there. We

  795. were working on the main street. We turned on the

  796. wrong street.

  797. I have no idea.

  798. I never felt fear in my life, such a fear.

  799. It was really hardly any lights on. I was really

  800. fearful and I was gonna die. You know why because

  801. throughout that time in my encounter in Manila, I've seen

  802. guns everywhere in the taxi, in people's bag I was

  803. talking with. We were talking with one supplier and then said, hey,

  804. you want to you know, actually I career a gun.

  805. Don't worry, you know, I'll protect you.

  806. I got gun. I was like, wow, I had no

  807. idea were talking people were carrying guns. You know, It's

  808. like wow, it's another world, totally another wild West.

  809. But that lane that we turned to was so wrong.

  810. My oh my, my spider sensors went out and oh

  811. you know it was so and I thought I was

  812. not going to see my wife. Really, It's like then

  813. we finally came out of it that guys, we will

  814. never go there.

  815. And my twather brothers were very big and strong, one

  816. not getting very bad.

  817. Let's say, yeah, yeah, ye do will never do that again. Okay,

  818. but when I come back, let's come back to saying

  819. that he wanted to re engineer, reconstruct Rome so that

  820. it will emulate or at least display the glory that

  821. he imagined.

  822. So Rome was, but then.

  823. The people started getting angry because people's lives were affected.

  824. The Senate was angry because you know, they get elected

  825. by the people, and the people are angry, they get

  826. problemly simple as that isn't it. So people were looking,

  827. and they were looking, and then it kind now came

  828. down to Nero, and Nero wanted to escape it.

  829. And then so what did he do? You blame Christians?

  830. Blame the Christians, and that Christians has always been a

  831. problem and they are the problem.

  832. They want to bring us down.

  833. And there are some of the things let me share

  834. you feel some of these things that has been spread

  835. around the lines that are spread around about Christians, or

  836. some of these fears. What are some of these false accusations?

  837. And you must apply critical thinking. Don't let people tell you,

  838. don't let them give you incomplete information and then make

  839. come to a wrong conclusion and say, now incomplete information

  840. and coming to a wrong conclusion and coming to a

  841. wrong impression, and portrayal of anyone and even God as well. Okay,

  842. So what was some of the things they say that

  843. Christians were accused of treason because they believe that Jesus

  844. is Lord, they preach one Lord and king. Does that

  845. mean that there are treasonous to the Roman government? Do

  846. they have an army? More importantly, are these spies good

  847. spies are very prevalent at that time? Are these spies

  848. must understand war? What's happening everywhere? If you have war

  849. in Malaysia, I tell you will not trust anyone. I

  850. guarantee you then you will not trust people when lives

  851. are lost, when the nation says the blind, you will

  852. find it hard to trust people, very difficult. I tell you,

  853. we went through one Kobe and we finding how to

  854. trust people in the elevators or it's true or not,

  855. we finding how to trust it just imment like we're

  856. finding how to trust people. War will make you distrust everyone,

  857. even the nicest person. You will think they possibly a spy.

  858. You know, I did the tension and the pressure with

  859. they actually lived in Okay, so there, but they thought

  860. that the Christians were treason us. They thought that Christians

  861. were cannibals. But how did you come to their conclusion?

  862. Because Christians we partake of the broken body of our

  863. Lord Jesus Christ, and we drink off his blood. You laugh,

  864. you laugh, But there is where critical thinking is not applied,

  865. because you take blood and you take broken body, and

  866. you take people doing it. Okay, you know at night

  867. houses you know, people don't know secret, secret, not different

  868. houses that they're you know, they gether together in secret.

  869. You know, they read some scripture in secret, and they

  870. partake of blood and body. You know, you think they

  871. were cannibal and understanding the time, the Christians couldn't do

  872. it in the public because people were looking for them.

  873. So they did in caves in these certain places. Or

  874. how much more intrigue you're going to add? These are

  875. all the elements. So what the enemy knows. They gather

  876. the necessary ingredients and they conducted a new recipe. Christians

  877. are cannibals. There's way when you don't have complete information,

  878. accurate information, and you arrive at the wrong conclusion. You

  879. know why they are so good at doing it. The

  880. world is so good at doing it because they learn

  881. it from the master, the devil.

  882. The devil has been doing it from there.

  883. One in the gadma Eden telling the Eve as far

  884. did God really say you cannot eat of the garden

  885. fruit of going?

  886. Even did God really say?

  887. He's saying that he reduced the consequences? You will not

  888. surely die. Contracting thing God directly, You will not show

  889. that God say die. You will not surely die because

  890. God knows that the day you're eat it be your

  891. eyes will be open, your bee like him. Really, so,

  892. you're saying God is insecure. God is fearful. God is

  893. special knowledge that can you You cannot know if you

  894. know already.

  895. God will not be like God ready more really, really, it's.

  896. Like saying that I'm scared to send my kid to

  897. school because I scared that one day to be smarter

  898. than me. Actually, I want my kid to be smarter

  899. than me. I don't want you to come to church

  900. because I scared you holder than me. I don't want

  901. to eat cares because I scared you stronger than me?

  902. What it doesn't make sense, But yet when you exaggerated,

  903. it feels you at a bil emotion and layer to it.

  904. It feels like God is really insecure.

  905. You know, you can't say not so in complete information.

  906. It's always about what portraying someone in a different light.

  907. You come saying, not he did it with God. He's

  908. doing it the Christians right now, get me right, he's

  909. doing it, the Christians right.

  910. Now, thinking he can be.

  911. When people are fearful, they will buy a lot of things.

  912. Right.

  913. It's easy to blame someone and then they take responsibility.

  914. You want to know you get me right, That's why

  915. you got the guys have to have proper critical thinking

  916. about these things. The next one witchcraft, people performing miracles

  917. and baptism. What they're doing in the river they are

  918. They couldn't take a bunch of people like people and

  919. dun them down. You know, we don't see them coming

  920. up one and you're laughing away.

  921. You see.

  922. It's funny when you take away certain elements in it,

  923. things look funny, isn't it.

  924. It's like it's like cross one eye. You look at

  925. things Hey, it's so funny, you know.

  926. But it's like that when you take different elements and

  927. you give it like that, it sounds silly because we

  928. know we are in it, because why would you think

  929. like that? But the world doesn't think like us. I mean,

  930. the world doesn't think like us. The world doesn't understand

  931. what we do. And I tell you the end of

  932. the day is what happens in you know. What happens

  933. at the end of the day is that the Roman

  934. started really hating Christians, believing that the Christians were evil,

  935. genuinely evil, and they are the good guys.

  936. Christians are the bad guys.

  937. And now I can tell you in the end of

  938. days it will be like so as well, that people

  939. in the world will think that Christians are the most inconsiderate,

  940. narrow minded, selfish people in the world. By believing that

  941. Jesus is the only way, you're selfish, you're inconsiderate. You

  942. do not accept anyone else.

  943. Oh this I do.

  944. You are the most We will do the world a

  945. service by getting rid of you, and we are justified

  946. by doing it.

  947. That's why the world will come up to be.

  948. And Timothy is faced with the same thing that he

  949. is leading a church, and people are associatinking with Paul

  950. and all the main preacher. You know, your whole world

  951. is celebrating. Paul is dying and all if only got Paul.

  952. But will you still associate yourself with Paul? There is

  953. pol said, do not be ashamed of the gospel. Paul,

  954. That's why I know whom I have believed. Well, I know,

  955. do not be ashamed of me. You are my disciple,

  956. no wife, he says that, But for this reason, I

  957. also suffer these things. Nevertheless, I am not ashamed for

  958. I know whom I have believed. I know whom the

  959. person I have believed, and I'm persuaded that he is able.

  960. When you are cornored to that level, when the world,

  961. whole world misjudge you and misrepresents you and the Word,

  962. they try to isolate you from everyone that supports you.

  963. Will you still believe God, who is able.

  964. To keep you.

  965. You don't see what I'm saying now. So this is

  966. the goal of discipleship, the God. Discipleship is not to

  967. make you feel just to make you feel heard and understood. Yeah,

  968. we pray for your work, for your exams. It's like, yes, good,

  969. But the goal of it, so that at the end

  970. of the day, when it counts, you will not be

  971. ashamed of the gospel because all the disciples of Jesus

  972. are left him. Remember all the disciples left him. Man,

  973. there will come a time when the disciples will be tested.

  974. You and I will be tested as well.

  975. Who will leave him? Who will deny him? Three times?

  976. I'm saying no, that is to go.

  977. So when we disciple people, we must have that mindset

  978. as well. You know what I mean, right, choose the

  979. right disciples, have a right mindset of discipleship so that

  980. they will not leave the faith. And lastly, I need

  981. the close things right now. Sorry, I'm taking a bit time. Lastly, okay,

  982. the disciples must hold fast to the Word to the

  983. world of God. What I mean is that if you

  984. read in verse thirteen, hold fast to the pattern of

  985. sound words which you have heard from me in faith

  986. and the love of Christ, love which are in Christ Jesus,

  987. the good thing which was committed to you. Keep by

  988. the Holy Spirit. The word is keep by the Holy Spirit.

  989. What does it mean to keep by the Holy Spirit? Okay?

  990. You see some of us like to grab food. You

  991. know I mean, if you like to grab food. I mean,

  992. your grandfold at least three times a week. Compass right now, compass.

  993. I'll pray for you sometimes I do as well. Why

  994. you're so shy? It's nothing, nothing wrong? Why okay, grandful,

  995. grandfool that it's okay? One lord like to gradfood right.

  996. Sometimes we spend a lot of money, isn't it. You

  997. buy a lot of expensive food. You buy it, let's say,

  998. for example, buy fresh groceries. Fresh groceries.

  999. Spend a lot of money, great produce, but will it

  1000. be worth anything if you forget to keep it in

  1001. the fridge. It's nothing, you know, pointless, you know.

  1002. Right there's where our children and our students, your mother

  1003. and part of school.

  1004. You you know, actually.

  1005. To keep it in the fridge. You don't keep in

  1006. the fridge. That's why you don't have dinner tonight live

  1007. because that's our dinner. You didn't keep in the fridge.

  1008. It spoiled really like all the flies eating. Really you

  1009. know what I'm saying.

  1010. You didn't. It wasn't just there for you to look

  1011. nice to eat for this moment. And you never keep

  1012. in the fridge. You know, you forget to keep it

  1013. in the fridge. You know, sometimes we come to church, well,

  1014. a nice mealer. It's not for you just to hear

  1015. one and all. It's for you to keep it in

  1016. your heart and you keep by the Holy Spirit and all.

  1017. But some of you just left it there past math you.

  1018. Thank you, Thank you for praying, Thank you for preaching good,

  1019. really good. Oh I feel so annointed tomorrow for get ready.

  1020. You know why.

  1021. It's not because you have bad intentions. I don't doubt

  1022. your intention. It's not it's not personal. I don't doubt

  1023. your intention. It's a lack of wisdom, lacking wisdom. We

  1024. don't hate our children because they forgot to put the

  1025. food in the fridge. Okay, we just say lacking wisdom. Okay, wisdom.

  1026. So what's the wisdom? The wisdom is knowing what retains

  1027. in your life the most. It's not by So to

  1028. keep the Word of God by the Holy Spirit, you

  1029. have to understand the opposite. What is the opposite of

  1030. keeping by the Holy Spirit is to keep the word

  1031. of God by the flesh. Okay, how do you keep

  1032. the Word of God by the flesh when you know

  1033. that the flesh cannot be trusted. The flesh desires the world,

  1034. the flesh is easily distracted. The flesh is not of God.

  1035. Get what I'm saying. You know, you're using your own

  1036. will power, your only human understanding to interpret the scripture.

  1037. We believe in the scripture wherever, and then you are

  1038. filled with your own agendas by the Holy Spirit. Means

  1039. that before you keep the world, you gott to invite

  1040. the Holy Spirit. You got to activate the friege first.

  1041. It's honor.

  1042. It's called keep the putt in the freature, but it's

  1043. not activated pointless, Okay, got to activate Holy Spirit. Humble

  1044. me first, that I don't know much. And then when

  1045. you are humbled, you have the right posture of God.

  1046. That God's work needs to have more impact in my life.

  1047. I need to memorize it, I need to live it

  1048. out and tomorrow I have to make a change ready

  1049. instead of like hearing it said God, I haven't changed,

  1050. so that there is the evidence of the spirit of

  1051. God working in your life. When that spirit of God

  1052. is fully working in your life, then the Word of

  1053. God is properly kept and preserved. Yeah, I mean right,

  1054. That's why a lot of people here but they don't receive.

  1055. Makes sense. You don't hear but their w own received.

  1056. You must have the Holy Spirit convicting you, getting you

  1057. to repent, confess, have faith. Then the Word of God

  1058. will be maintaining your heart represerved, that you have fresh

  1059. manner and all you kept it well, you know, although

  1060. the mana is supposed to be finishing the to data. Okay,

  1061. but you.

  1062. Know what I mean, Okay, that that is the way

  1063. that we ought to be.

  1064. So our job is twofold, is to make sure that

  1065. our disciples have the spirit of God.

  1066. I feel the Holy Spirit, and secondly they are fed with.

  1067. The world on God. Both must happen, Okay, both must

  1068. happen in true discipleship. That is why Jesus, what do

  1069. you do? Don't go and preach it? Wait in Jerusalem

  1070. for the Holy Spirit makes sense? Now makes sense? Now?

  1071. Does it makes sense? Now? As it makes sense? You

  1072. must have the partnership of the Holy Spirit to keep

  1073. that word or just take the word. Let's go and

  1074. preach out. I tell you, the disciples will probably be defeated.

  1075. You know, we must. The Holy Spirit is the agent

  1076. of preservation in our lives. We must keep that, okay,

  1077. and for our lives, for our children and rest as

  1078. well