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Discipleship - Growing Roots, Raising Stakes | Pr Ronson
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You're listening to a message to go from axt church.
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We hope this message will light up your tea.
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God values faithfulness, and every form of faithfulness will lead
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to fruitfulness because true faithfulness will always lead to faithfulness.
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So when you look at the parable of the talent
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the Master gave each one according to their ability. To
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the one who has five, you do well in the five.
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To the one who have two, you do well.
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In the two.
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To the one have one, you do well as one.
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So it's not about comparing our talent, but rather be
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fitful in the talent that God has given to you,
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Be faithful in the purpose, be faithful in the potential
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that God has given to you.
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So that's why was just preparing to this's message.
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I want to say that God often weave our life together.
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I may not see you every day, you may not
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see me every day. You may not see each other
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every day. But in God's kingdom and his church and
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in his economy, no relationship happens by accident. Really, Jason
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Soon used to be with us in acident. You're like,
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and I know we have some tailors student here as well.
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We have some Tailor's alumni here as well, So I
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want to say that our path is weaved by God,
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and no relationship in church happens by accident. It is
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always a divine appointment. And each one has a story
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to tell.
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Today.
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You have your own story to tell, You have your
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own mouthstone in God to tell.
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And when we talk about.
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Church, we have to understand that the church is essentially
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not just an organization.
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It is built by God.
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It is built by relationships that are ordained by God.
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So today I had the privilege to share with you
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my story, and one day I hope to be a
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will hear from your story as well. So I started
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off Taylor seventeen years actually life fifteen years extraly twenty
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one years. I know it's a lot because it might
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be older than some of you, but God told me
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specifically today I must pray for those of you who
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have been holding a role for a minimum of ten years.
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Whether you're you're.
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Homes leader for ten years, I've been working in the
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same company for ten years. You have been doing the
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same thing and over again for ten years. I want
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to honor you for your faithfulness so we can stand.
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Because the Lord has placed something in my heart to
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pray for you. Okay, minimum ten years. You have been
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doing something for ten years. Anyone, just thean, It's okay.
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We want to celebrate faithfulness.
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Amen.
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That's kind of for them. Amen, these are your faithful people.
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You have been in church for ten years. You have
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been in homes leader for ten years. You have been
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a dream team leader for ten years. Yeah, you have
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been in the same industry for ten years. Please stand Amen,
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Thank you Jesus. Just raiseful of your hand, hallelujah.
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Lord.
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Faithfulness is also your nature. When we are fitless, you
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remain fitful. I mean you look at the servants whom
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you have given talents. Lord, of all the words you
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could have chose, you chose good and faithful. And I
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thank you God, Lord, that today in your presence, I
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am standing among faithful men and faithful women.
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Know God, and I know God.
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Faithfulness at times requires resilience, requires perseverance, and that faithfulness
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really counts, especially at a time when we want to
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give up, especially at a time when we think it
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is not working out. But yet God, they are still
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found standing. Yet God, they are still found.
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To be faithful.
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So I pray in the mighty name of Jesus, God
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Let your joy continue to be their strength. Let their
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faithfulness of God Lord lead them to a place of
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constant fruitfulness of God. Because when they're fruitful, you receive
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all the glory. And when they are fruitful of God Lord,
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they make themselves of a disciple of Jesus.
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So I pray, Lord, release.
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Lord, your joy even right now upon your hearts, upon
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their spirit. In Jesus' name, I pray God, You'll release
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your favor upon the works of your hands of God Lord,
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so that whatever they touch in the mighty name of Jesus.
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So God Lord, let it prosper. Let it prosper, Lord.
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That it will fix the eyes on you, not to
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the left, not to the right, but they will always fix.
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Their eyes on you.
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I prophetically, Lord, I want to release this word, for
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no I have seen, no yes have heard, nor has
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it entered into the heart or a mind of man.
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The great things you have prepared for those who love you.
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So I speak into the spirit of God Lord that
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great things are coming their way. Do not give up.
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Can't you run the extrama? God is your reward. Some
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might think that we have been in a situation. We
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have been taking a role for very long When is
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the next promotion, When is the next elevation, When is
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the next blessing? The Lord is encouraging us. Do not
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look to the left, Do not look to the right.
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Do not let comparisons rop us from our joy. But
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look to the Lord for his our joy. Look to
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the Lord for his our rewarder, Look to the Lord
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for his our strength. Look to the Lord for his
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our comforter. The Lord will reward you the loyal bless
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you because you have found to be fitful. You have
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been tested, you have been proven, says the Lord. You've
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gone through fire, some of you, I see in my
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mind you have went through fire. And the Lord says
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that it is a refining fire, a refining fire that
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shapes correct, a refining fire that built something in you
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so that you have the character to carry out the
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specific assignment calling the God has given to you specifically.
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So remain fitful, remain grounded. The Lord is your reward.
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In Jesus' name, we pray, and God's people say, Amen, Amen,
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can never see it.
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Amen.
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So every one of us, when we stepped into ex church,
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we have our own story, we have our beginnings in
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X and today I just want to share with you
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my own story, my own beginning with X Church. My
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story started in two o four my sister jesse Some
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you may remember Jessena. She was the first one who
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attended X Church and she was very fathful. As a family,
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we grew up in a background where we are free thinkers.
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My dad at one time was a Hindu, so we
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also have Hindu statues. But towards the last stages of
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his life, he gave up the altar, he gave up
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the idols, and became a free thinker. It was in
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two or four, less than a year after my dad
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retired at the age of fifty six years old. He
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passed away and the reason was due to live a
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failure and the cause of it is sorry. The cause
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of it was excessive drinking. So that was an alcoholic.
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So there was substance abuse, using substance as a coping
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mechanism to help him to cope depression. I never really
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knew about this until when I was growing up being
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exposed to into the whole area of mental health well being.
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Only I realized that that actually suffered from depression and
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he looked to substances as a form of copying mechanism.
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But the very thing that he used as a coping
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mechanism was the very thing that killed him.
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So as a family, we were very shocked. We were
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we really don't know what to do.
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And when it comes to the funeral arrangement and victor arrangement,
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we consulted each other and we decided to just ask
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Jesse to ask the church pastor to come and do
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a Christian funeral. It sounds a bit weird, but I
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tell you why it's not weird later because as a
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family we find that okay, number one, Dad gave up
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probably Hinduism, and not to disrespect this faith. Just as
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family we find that we wanted to be straightforward without
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having any rituals that are just a lot things to
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do lat So Jesse basically spoke to the church and
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tax church actually came to my family at the time
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when we were at.
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Our lowest so past kind of back then.
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The church was very small, probably sixty eighty close to one
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hundred maybe came and they supported us the whig service
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and funeral. Whig service was really held in my house.
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I mean I don't have a big house, but there's
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a very small compounder and that's where we did the
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whig service. And as a youngest, how many of you here.
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You're the youngest child. Okay, I'm the youngest as well.
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And let me tell you it's not true when they
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say the youngest is the favorite. Okay, everyone is a favorite. Okay,
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everyone is a favorite. That the sibling felt that, Okay, Ransa,
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you got to share a eulogy because you're the favorite child.
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So we actually print out the eulogy and I was
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invited to share the eulogy during the week service. And
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it was back then and I had an encounter with
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the Lord because me and my dad, towards his final days,
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I never really had a good closure with my dad.
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So I was struggling a lot with guilt, a lot
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with remorse. So I identified with families where if one
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of your parents are struggling with a form of substance,
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I identify with that because I'm here to say that
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my family wasn't perfect. I've seen you said. My dad
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wasn't abusive. My dad treated us very well. He was
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a good man. It's just that he had a struggle
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that he didn't know how to cope with. And I
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wish that he came to no Christ earlier. So I
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identify you know if your family is going through a
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situation where it's similar to mine. But I'm also to
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tell you here, to tell you that there's always hope
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in God. So I had a closure with my dad
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and I was struggling in this emotion, and when I
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went out, I needed to face a crowd of probably
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thirty forty people. I really had no strength to want
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to share anything because I was emotionally drinked, and I
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realized that there was a presence next to me. I
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couldn't explain this, but there was this presence next to me,
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and when I look at it right there was one.
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But you just knew there was someone, and I felt
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someone was actually gripping my hand. And then strength came
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out of my spirit for me to be a share
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the eulogy. Didn't share the experience with anyone during that
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time except for my sister, and when the week service
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was done, I shared with my sister. My sister asked
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me a few questions. Could it be a stress to
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your body? Was it a physiological effect? And I say no.
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I played tennis at the Terrans, so we know you
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know whether it is it's a spraying or not. We know,
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but it's not. I say something supernatural. I've never felt
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it before, and one tend me two o four. My
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sister was the one that led me to Christ in
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my own bit room, say you know, it must have
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been Jesus. She was the one that led me to Christ.
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And the following week, as an appreciation to the church,
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we turned up the next church. Back then it was
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opposite as a S fifteen Taylor's College. We have to
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climb up three floors up. We were there just to
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appreciate the church, an out of respect. I still remember
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Passassandra spoke the first message. Passdenna is very consistent, I
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must say, for twenty one years i've seen her. She
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was very, very consistent, very animated, and I remember the
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message she preached was a pruning. You know, she was
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holding the kata right. And once that day my brother
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rededicated his life, my mom gave her to Jesus, and
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I reaffirmed my decision to Christ. I can give God glory.
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So it was just attending eggs. And then later I
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found out Pascanov's version of his story. Uh back then
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was a young pastor as well. Now he is he,
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you know, young in spirit, but better than the church
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was only four years old, right now, a church was
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only four years old. And it's like a not a
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usual request from a non believing family asking the pastor
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to come to do a whig service and a funeral
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for a man that that's a connection with and probably
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not in the faith as well. And he struggled with
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that because he just came back from us back then
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and the request came, and he called up two other
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pastors wanting to get consultation.
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Advice and all.
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Basically, he was discouraged from taking this engagement because the
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line of thought is that it should only be for
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a believer. Right after all, if you're a pastor, majority
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of the family members are not believers, the man is
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not a believer.
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What would you say? How would you? Minister?
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I must say that pass CANIV has also been very
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consistent throughout this years.
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And he prayed to God and heard the voice of God.
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Here's the voice of Jesus telling him, Canne, if I'm
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there physically right now on earth, I'll be there with
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the family. Based on that obedience, pass the Cane of Kim.
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I'm glad he came because It's true. Jesus is always
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near to those who are broken hearted, whether you know
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him or not, He's always near to those who are
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broken hearted. The scripture didn't says he's near to those
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who believe and is broken hearted. He's near to those
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who are broken hearted. My first imprint that I received
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from this church is radical obedience and radical faith, because
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to me, what pastor and the church have did back
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then was very radical. You hear from God, you obeyed,
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and you got to demonstrate.
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It by faith.
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This has always been the DNA of X Church, and
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across the years we have been very consistent in this.
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I want to start off with this because for Exuberanjoya
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to continue to grow further, it must not neglect radical
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obedience and radical faith. Isaiah one nineteen says, if you're
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willing and obedience, you will eat the good of the land.
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Of course, you know Hebrews eleven. Without faith, it is
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impossible to please God. Some ninety chapter ninety two thirteen
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say is those who are planted in the house of
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the Lord shall flourish in the course of our God.
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You know, X is my first church. Never really had
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experiences in growing up in another church. And I've made
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it as a personal commitment that X will be my
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last church. I know it's a very huge commitment to
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say this, and it's not my first time to say this.
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I've seen the season of X in different stages. I
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think so the old timers here you're also seen this
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in different stages of season. But I'm here to stand
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and testify to you that God is waitful. Unless the
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Lord builds his house, his laborers will labor in. So
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God is still building X. And the way to build
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the church is true people, because when God builds people,
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people builds the house. So I want to encourage you
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to say that you're in the right place. You're in
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a good church. If you're looking for a perfect church,
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if you're looking for a perfect community, X is not
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the place for you, because no one is perfect.
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No one is perfect.
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I have my fair share of stories which I want
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to share with you later about just growing up in
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X and all why I say that X is my
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first church and will be my last church because I've
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grown my roots here, I've raised my sticks here, and
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I've laid many memorial stones here with God in this place.
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And I want you, guys to understand that as you
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continue to grow with us, whether you be a one
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year old with eggs, five years old with eggs, ten
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years old, with eggs, fifteen years old, with as when
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you reflect back, I'm sure you're able to see your
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own memorial stones with God laid in X. Nothing happens
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by coincidence. Nothing happens by divine nothing happens by accidents, biskey,
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everything happens by divine appointment. So when we say that
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those who are planted in the House of the Lord
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shall flourish in the courts of our God, we must
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grow in roots. And our roots must first be rooted
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in Christ. Christ must always be at the center. And secondly,
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we must always be rooted in discipleship. This year's team
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is discipleship, all of you knowing, and I want to
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reiterate that X is called to be a church planting
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church with disciple. Through church planting, that has always been
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the heart of X. I speak from the capacity as
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a church plan coordinator because I know sometimes we can
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be either intimidated by oh, let's plan again, or we
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can have our own preferences of but we're already doing well.
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Why the need to plant? Why the need to have this.
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We've got to stay true to our calling. Remember you
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guys sent me out, No, just a reminder, you guys
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send me out.
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So I'm here to remind you.
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Guys there that is our calling, that is our calling,
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that is our DNA and can tell you the best platform.
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To disciple there is always church planting.
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So I like to look at new musicians on stage,
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new chairpersons being raised up, new speakers being raised up,
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because we are not called to.
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Be a.
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Church where there's only one worship team on a sudden
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few can serve, or a one man church. Our pastor
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is very clear in the calling that God has given
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to X and we disciple through church planting. Now that
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doesn't mean that whatever other churches do is wrong. I
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want to be very careful with this because I want
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to say that X Church is a small church. We
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are not called to be a big church because it
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got clearly told pastor that we are here to build
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a movement, not a monument. Monument basically means everyone together
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and there's no life. But movement is always organic. Movement
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always brings about. Movements will bring you to places that
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you would never have imagined. You will venture to like Nelai.
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So you can only do that like when you're part
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of a movement. But for certain churches, they are to
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lead the church as God directs the leadership.
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So what I want to say is.
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That if we see acts as a place like for me,
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I've grown my roots, I raised my stake. I got
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to keep my eyes focused on Jesus who have caught
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me here. I got to keep my eyes focused and
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not compare, because comparison a day on day will lead
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us to a place of tatenancy. But if you begin
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to focus on Jesus, you obey him, he will lead
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you to a place where you need to be. For me,
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I know God wants me to be here. So in
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an area of discipleship, there are two things that I
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would like to live with you today. To me, even
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in my own life, discipleship equals to choosing submission and
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raising our stick. Submission is not an easy thing to
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teach or to talk about. By praise God for Elie,
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who have earlier went out to confirm the message Ephicients
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five twenty. She mentioned about submission, So truly she didn't
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check with me. I didn't check with her, But truly
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it is the word of the Lord of the season
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for you. It was a devotion, Praise God. There's no
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consultation going on, but I guess.
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Is the Lord's word for you.
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And as a leader, I have to tell you that
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submission is not the easiest thing to talk about. Submission
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is not the easiest thing to teach, because it may
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imply like, huh, I have to submit to you.
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You get me. But we must. We must teach it biblically.
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All the fruits that I have today, where it be ministry,
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where it be in my marketplace, I can tell you
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it's a result of submission to a spiritual authority and
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leadership in acts in Hebrews thirteen seventeen says obey those
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who rule over you and be submissive, for they wash
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out for your souls. As those who must give account,
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let them do so with joy and not with grief,
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for that would be unprofitable to you. You see, we
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live in a world where more cultures are shifting towards
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a form of I would term me as hyper individualism,
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where everything is just about me. Don't tell me what
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to do. I'm the leader of my own life. I
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will take charge of my own life and it's very individualistic.
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But if you look at true biblical relationship, submission has
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always been one of the word that the Bible has described.
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So submission is biblical. Submission is not a bad word.
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Submission doesn't make one looks weak from a guy's perspective.
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It doesn't also big one. If let say, I submit
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to a leader, it makes me looks meek. Why I say, guys,
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Because guys, we always have our ego, we always have
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our own pride. And when someone tell us something that
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we don't agree with but we need to submit with,
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that's when it really counts.
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So a scripture says that we are.
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To obey those who rule over us and be submissive,
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for they watch for our souls. I can tell you
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if you have a best boss in a marketplace, they
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take care of your needs and all, which is very good.
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I pray that in next church everyone will have a
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good boss. Okay, if you're a boss, you will be
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the best boss. I pray you'll have that and you'll
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be that. But one thing in the marketplace is they
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don't watch over your soul. Only the people that God
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has appointed in church can wash over your soul, can
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contend with the power of gardeners. Interceed for your life
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and pray for breakthrough, pray for deliverance to come upon
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your life. Only the church leadership can do that because
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God has given authority to the church. So it means
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here they watch out for your souls and that we,
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as leaders, we should do so with joy, and joy
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is a very important ingredient. We should not do it
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with grief, for it would be unprofitable for you. Now
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I'm going to break down forwards. Rule over you basically
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means to lead. I means, as leaders, we are meant
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to lead, to guide, to go before you. It implies
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leadership by example, influence and care, and not domination. Sometimes
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people don't submit because they think that as a leader,
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they will rule over us. But we look at bibical leadership.
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Jesus says the greatest of all shall be the least
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of all.
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And Jesus was the.
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One that introduced servant leadership. Okay, so twenty one years here,
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I've never seen any domination over my life. I've never
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seen ronson where it is you must you must. If
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you don't, there will be consequences. I don't say ronson,
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you do this, you must, you must but we're all
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it is out of that reverence towards the leadership. It
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is out of their own life example, out of their
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own testimony, out of their own reputation, out of their
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walk with Jesus, good reputation full of the Holy Spirit.
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So as we look at the lines of the leadership,
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there is something that we also desire and as a result,
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we want to follow and to obey. Here basically means
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you obey because you trust the person. It is not
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out of blind submission. The church cannot be built based
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on blind submission. It must be built and anchored on
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relationships that you trust and relationship that you can submit
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to submitsay basically means it's a volunteery yielding. So as
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at LEAs shared from Ephicient chapter five, when they say, wife,
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submit to your husband just as Christ, that just as
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the husband should love the wife as Christ love the Church.
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Now I can say this because a share and redding
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um sort of submit. There is a volume theory act.
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It means that the husband loves Christ so much the
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husband love the wife and it makes it easier for
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the wife to submit. So in the church context to
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me is similar where you see your leaders love Christ.
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You see that your leaders love you, it makes it
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easier for you to submit to them volunteerily. Watch out
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here basically means to stay awake, to be vigilant, keep watch,
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remain alert and slipless out of concert as your homes leader,
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as your elders here, do you actually have sleeplesiness night
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where you don't sleep because you're worried about people in
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your congregation because you're going through stuff and all.
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I'm sure there is.
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I'm sure there is, because as a church plant coordinator,
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I'm telling you there are days where we also worried
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over our people.
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We just want them to grow well in Christ. We
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just want them to make godly decisions that align to
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biblical standards so that they don't shot change themselves, so
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that they can grow and flourish into the things of God.
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And I know that you know, the next church a
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bit unique because most of our leaders are young. That's
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justex and for people who are older, Let's say, in
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case you're curious about my age, I'm forty one by eli.
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Let's say I have people who are older than me.
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It's often difficult, isn't it When you look at young
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leadership and then bribically speaking, you're supposed to submit to.
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A leadership, but the leadership is young.
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There's a slight that I put in a statement that
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it is not blind submission, but biblical and bold submission
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built in faith first in God who is the truth,
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and faith in the leadership above first, where you have
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to look at their track record and testimonies. So for
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all the folks who are part of this vision, for
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other folks who you're willing to even listen to your
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homes leader, who may be your junior, I respect you
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a lot because I know it's not easy. It's often
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easier to say. You know, that's what I'm saying. You
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are young, you haven't experienced life in the fifties or
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sixty year. But you know you're willing to listen, You're
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willing to be open. That says a lot about you.
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That speaks about the spirit of Christ in you. One
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thing to align to His truth and submission can only
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be easy when we first submit to God. Then it
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makes submission to the leaders easier. Let me share with
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you that honor is the cornerstone of submission. Honor is
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a cornerstone of submission. I'm going to use a family example.
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If you are not comfortable with this example, please with me,
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because in every family I say, it's not perfect, right,
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it's not perfect. Now we live in an era where
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apps are getting popular. That would mean banks are also
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actil they have moved to be digital. Okay, I stay
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with my mom. She is seventy three years old this year.
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With my mom, she's not very good in technology.
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It's not very good.
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So whenever the bank asked her to do online banking
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and at banking, she will feel.
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Very stressed up.
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And a common thing that my mom will always come
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and ask me is ronson, I can't remember my password.
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I know, I know, guys, I opened up my altar later,
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all right, we're okay. And then I find myself have
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to be like, okay, let's reset the passwords because I
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can't remember the password as well, all right, because understanding
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that if it is your account, you remember your on password.
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Back then, we don't have biometrics yet. So I noticed
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that two, three, four times always reseat listen there, and
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honestly I felt a bit agitated. It's like, how many
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times I need to help you? I thought, I told
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you alreally sounds familiar. Youone sounds familiar. Okay, Lila Cabe
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passes an not perfect.
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I'm just saying, uh.
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So one day, out of sudden, I didn't shout by notice,
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I raised my voice almost the line of I've told
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you many times? How came you just don't want to learn?
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Or this suna? Not good? Not good? Not good?
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Since I leave the conversation, the Holy Spirit rebuilt me.
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Those of you who have been rebuilt by the Holy Spirit,
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you know how it felt. Basically, it's not a place
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of condemnation, but it's a place of conviction. The only
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speak says this, I got to rebuild, he says, onsen.
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When you were young, who took care of you? I say, mom,
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when you poop and you couldn't clean yourself, who took
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care of you?
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I say, mom? When you were weak? Who took care
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of you? I say, mom?
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Just because you are now more educated, just because now
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you are stronger. What gives you the right to raise
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your voice? You know, when you get in a conversation
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with the Holy Spirit, there's really no point to but
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not how many times must I do this?
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But not? I told her?
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Right when you really hear from the Holy Spirit, you
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just knew you knew, you knew in your spirit. It
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is a conviction. It is a conviction that only He
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can give. My mom is a very forgiving person. So
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after I went to my mom, I say sorry, yeah,
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I hey, why you laugh for your I say, ah, sorry,
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I raised my voice and you you know what, Mom say, hey, no, what,
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It's okay, It's okay. But the point I want to
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draw out is basically this right. Sometimes, this attitude of mine,
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if it's not in check, can come out in our
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relationship in church. It may come across as because you see,
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most of us grew up in eggs, the older folks
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at our campus. Yes, and today, of course we are
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in a marketplace. If we are not careful right, we
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may approach leadership like what does our leaders know about?
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You know, I'm here in the marketplace, I'm big time,
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I have this achievement, I have this accolades and whatever.
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The leadership is aligning to the vision of God, and
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we say.
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Let's grow big to grow small.
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Maybe you find it difficult to agree with because in
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your organization you do things differently. In the world, they
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do things differently. And sometimes I have to remind myself
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that the greatest test of submission is when you think
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you have attained certain standard in life, certain successes in life,
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can you still submit to the very voice that has
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been with you when you needed them. Don't let successes,
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don't let riches get to your heat to a point
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where now you despise the very voice that used to
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correct you, and now they are correcting you, and you despise.
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That because that is not biblical. That is not biblical.
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So after the pandemic in twenty twenty two, Xdey Line
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was one of the last church plan line that opened
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up because when the government opened up the borders interstate,
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we were the last church plan that opened up because
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we couldn't find a venue. We couldn't. We just couldn't
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find a venue. Even if we found a venue, the
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course is too high for us. I felt very bad.
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You know, every time it goes to bound they comment
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and see me. That's when it's XLI starting. So I
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have told them, hey, you sent me up, but I'm
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coming back. So in February twenty twenty two, that's when
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we restarted. After I wrote a letter to the owner
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of the hotel because God dropped into my heart. That's
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right to the owner and asked for his help, so
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open the door. He gave us a reasonably small roupe
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to meet. Our first worship service was the nature of
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people or less, I don't know. Subsequent was only what
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about their size? And Monday the Holy Spirit whispered into
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my ears.
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He says that Ronsan, I care more for the spirit of.
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Your church than the size of your church. That means
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the size of our spirit must be big in God.
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Because if we are a big church, but the size
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of our spirit and God is small, that's not what
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God is looking for. So eventually we grew and we
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needed a new venue. We had a ballroom just adjacent
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to our current room. Those of you who been to
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Nila you probably know. But they quoted ridiculous price, very ridiculous,
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and I find that, okay, let's move out. We prayed, actually,
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and we decided to move out. We found a venue,
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a new venue, and the venue is basically done by
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a marketing agency. They also do event management. They're very nice, stitch,
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very nice, led screen, full D screen, they got their lights.
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Everything. We went there, we wreckire.
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We went there with WRECKI and all we thought it
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was okay, maybe for a season we should.
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Use that.
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The church loved it in Eline, and we told the owner,
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let's do a twelve. First, we will use for one
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month and then after that one month we will decide.
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But we also look for our revenue. So we started
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off very well, actually so much so that they also
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assign us a sound engineer. So many you serve a
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sound team. You don't have to set up. You know,
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the sound engineer will set up for you. We will
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use their assets, and the pricing was just right. They
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said there are a certain agreements we need to explore further.
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So one day is I had to share with this
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story so funny. So when while the worshiping was practicing,
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the sound engineer decided to put on their concerts like
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they're on a smooth machine. To go to the sign,
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say hold on, hold on, we don't need that. That's
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not how we worship. I told my team that we're not.
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Even though we pay for the rent and they allow
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us to use some fancy lights, they allow us to
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use whatever I thought.
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I churched that.
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This is how we worship. Next, we just need white lights.
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That's how we worship. But suffice to say, it gives
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you a good picture of how good the venue was
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there was one drawback. The drawback is that we have
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to clean up the venue after that because actually they
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don't allow us to wear shoes, but we want to
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wear shoes and they say okay, And we don't want
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to pay cleaning fee because for cleaning fee they will
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charge you one a year. They say, okay, after church,
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we will clean the venue ourselves in creating the toilets.
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So as a church from Kordinta, when I took that decision,
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we took it prayer fully as well. We updated TSBO
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and all and they were agreeable. One day, Ella Kina
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decided to call me. Elika was my first man. Oh
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today he's still my mentor. Just that I now account
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to aascana and he says that Ronson, I think it's
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good for you to move out of that place. Have
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you ever been in a position where you just started,
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you begin to like something and then the leadership comes
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in and say nope, so for you, you got to
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give that up. Be in that situation before it before. Yeah,
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I'm no different. So when I heard that, I was
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like almost like a difficult pill to swallow. Because I'm
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a church proan coordinator. I just let my our plan here.
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Then after month we need to move out. But to
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be fair, we really told the owner we just need
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one month to trial. After that we will we will
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make a decision. So I struggled with that. I struggle
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with that, I can tell you I struggle with that.
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Thoughts like.
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The leadership is not in MELI they don't know the
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ground fifteen years you know, I know the ground, eldip, Oh,
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I know the ground. I think that this is the
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right place we pray. Really, you know, all these thoughts like, oh,
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they don't understand I used your name, you don't understand.
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I was struggling in this thought because it almost looked
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like I need to do a self check. Actually lie
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belongs to who? Hey, you guys sent me out, you know,
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so actually it's on mind. It's our ways right. So
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to submit to the leadership of the church. It wasn't difficult.
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But Elder told me this, Why don't you go back
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to the owner of the first place we're meeting and
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see whether.
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There's God's favor there.
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Honestly, when the hotel quota does the price, I never
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thought about going to the owner and asked for about
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the price, because I don't want to be seen like
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asking for a lot of favor when there was a
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really favor now move out. So I'm always struggled between
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balancing between what we should be paying and what is
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what we are affordable and not try.
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To push it.
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That's just mela, so very difficult to move on of
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the venue. And eventually the testimony is this is that
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they gave us a fifty percent reduction, Elissa, for you
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to fifty percent reduction in the current venue where we're admitting.
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Think about it, right, things could have swayed. You know,
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if I was stubborn counter other thing. Ohkay, don't understand that.
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I think they will still allow me probably, but I
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knew I have dis orbeit and disobedience doesn't attract blessing.
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I needed to trust the wisdom of my eldest. I
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cannot say to myself they don't know when they were
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also prayerful. I cannot say myself that they don't care.
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But the fact that they care, they care enough to
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tell me they care enough to pray. Otherwise we won't
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be having this testimony or favor fifty percent reduction. The
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current place is actually very good because the cappack is
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plenty the other place I spoke to you, if we
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were to grow to eighteen ninety, we may have to
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jam all the way down because only one live one
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small lif days.
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And then.
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I want to share with you this to say that
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sometimes even as leaders, there will always be that challenge
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to submit to leaders. And I think about it that
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even at my level, if I had a challenge, what
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about people who are.
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Not in leadership. But I'm here also to let you
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know that.
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Submission is bypical because those who submitted the most will
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succeed the most. I'll give you an example in looks
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after five, the fisherman was washing their net. Then you
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got a carpenter who went into Simon Peter's boat and
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throw Simon Peter launch out into the deck. So obviously
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Jesus was on the boat back then, his profession was
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a carpenter before he went full time right at the
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age of thirty. Peter could have look at Jesus and
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say that you're just a carpenter. You don't know what
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you're talking about. We just went out to the sea.
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We know the timing to fish. Sim Peter didn't say that.
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Sim Peter just said, we have taught all night we
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have caught none, which is a fact, Thank God. He said, nevertheless,
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add your word, we will go into the deck. Sometimes
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God will allow situations where he uses your leaders to
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come and to carry that. I know many of us
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want to hear from God. I know you want to
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hear the audible voice of God. I know I know,
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but I'm sorry to say that often he will use
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men and women who loves you, who care for you,
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to come and carry his voice. Now, if you hear
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the audible voice of God means you're very special because
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the calling will be higher on you.
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And when He tells you, you better do.
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Because we have also seen people say, oh, God told
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me this, God told me that, great, fantastic. What are
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you doing about what you have heard? Are you willing
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to sub it to the very voice that you have heard?
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And does it align to scripture? I want to say
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that spiritual covering comes true alignment, that we first have
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to align with God first, and then with the spiritual
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leadership that God appoints. Blessing will flow where there is
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unity and godly order, and often it is that submission
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that brings us to that order. Some hundred and thirty
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three says Behold how good and how pleasant it is
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for Bedron to dwell together in unity. It is like
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the precious oil upon the heat running down on the beard,
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the beard of Erin, who is the priest, running down
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on the age of his garments. It is like the
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duw of herman descending upon the mountains of Zion. For
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there the Lord commanded the blessing life forevermore. The first
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point for today is submission. Second point is increase your stick.
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I know I have said this a lot, but I
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want to say this again that God wants me to
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remind next Subangjaya your legacy. You are a church planting church. Hey,
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you did not just send me, you know, you also
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probably send Clang. I don't know Clan was sent by Ampump.
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You send Pgah. You said Cyberja. Cyberjaya was the first
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plan you sent out next day, if you're doing all
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night as a jack, here and remind all of us, right,
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subang Jaya, God has always positioned you and used you
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as a church planting church. In fact, all of us
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in next every plant should be a church planting church.
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I'm here to tell you that it is time to
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plan again, again and again.
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Really there are so.
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Many lives out there that need to hear the gospel,
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and each one of you carry with you that seat
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to plant something, the potential to plant something. So the
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best example of ownership is increasing your stick. How are
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you increasing your stick in this church? Because I'm here
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to tell you that X is not a comfortable church.
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X is not a comfortable church. We are a movement,
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We're not a monument. So for twelve years serving in Neeli,
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God opened the door for me to buy my own
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property in Kneelin because for the first twelve years I
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was actually traveling from Subang to Neeli. I've seen the
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LdB toe from runnering it.
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To one sixteen to ten or thirteen.
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Now yeah, I'm also seeing the elite highway to being reduced.
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Praise God for our new government, amenh U said before something.
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Now I think they have some cerdaen toal reduction. And
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it has never.
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Easy because you've got to travel after work for prayer service,
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You've got to travel after work for homes, you got
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to travel after work to do life with people. And
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I always after church, I will once a while drive
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around Nearli and I always have this dream of just
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buying a land, you build something from scrash. I have
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never really favored high rise residential. It's a preference. There's
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nothing wrong with high rise. There's a preference that I
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would wish not to have. But one day I saw
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this advertisment. I thought, it's a new development. Why not
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just go and have a look. And the moment I
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step into it, something resonate in me that this is
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the place I need to put my stick in. Because
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you see, how can I, as a pastor of Exili,
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have a house address in subang Jaya and people you
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walk around NELI, oh you're a pastor, where do you stay?
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I stay in subang Jaya. Personally, I don't feel aligne right.
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That's the thing that Holy Spirits given to me. I
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don't feel a line.
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And today I can say that, by the grace of God,
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I own a place.
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Monthly. I would tell you the payment. But it's quite
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a lot as well for a place that I only
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stay in. A man probably hit this ten days over
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the weekend Friday, Saturday, Sunday and then I'm back to work.
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But it does cost me something to build the church.
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It will always cost you something because I say, our
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mindset got change I cannot say that these church is
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church one. Why should I, you know, trouble all the
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way plant in Ely, do these things in Nelai, you know, time, travel, money.
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We've got to start to take ownership in whatever capacity
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you can. It's about if it is about to start serving,
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then you just start serving.
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If it is about.
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Opening up your house for example, for homes, then you
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can start with that. It is about helping another person
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to get to church because you have a very nice car,
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for example, then you can start off with that. But
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for me, I find that after serving in New life
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for so long, it's time to take ground. It's time
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to take that stick. Following so far, you guys catching
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something so far so prophetically, I feel for ex Subanjaya,
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I find that there's a lot of alignment because I
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didn't know about your devotion and all, and it's so
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aligned to today's message.
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I have the.
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Scripture in Isa fifty four for you that I feel
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will be the mental of your plan. Is f fifty
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four was to say, en launch the place of your
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tent and let them stretch out on the curtains of
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your dwelling. Do not spare lengthened your cords and strengthen
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your sticks. It's time to level up our sticks. It's
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time to say this is my church. It's time to
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take ownership at a higher level. It's time to launch
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out again, to plan again.
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Amen.
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