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Discipleship - Growing Roots, Raising Stakes | Pr Ronson

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  1. You're listening to a message to go from axt church.

  2. We hope this message will light up your tea.

  3. God values faithfulness, and every form of faithfulness will lead

  4. to fruitfulness because true faithfulness will always lead to faithfulness.

  5. So when you look at the parable of the talent

  6. the Master gave each one according to their ability. To

  7. the one who has five, you do well in the five.

  8. To the one who have two, you do well.

  9. In the two.

  10. To the one have one, you do well as one.

  11. So it's not about comparing our talent, but rather be

  12. fitful in the talent that God has given to you,

  13. Be faithful in the purpose, be faithful in the potential

  14. that God has given to you.

  15. So that's why was just preparing to this's message.

  16. I want to say that God often weave our life together.

  17. I may not see you every day, you may not

  18. see me every day. You may not see each other

  19. every day. But in God's kingdom and his church and

  20. in his economy, no relationship happens by accident. Really, Jason

  21. Soon used to be with us in acident. You're like,

  22. and I know we have some tailors student here as well.

  23. We have some Tailor's alumni here as well, So I

  24. want to say that our path is weaved by God,

  25. and no relationship in church happens by accident. It is

  26. always a divine appointment. And each one has a story

  27. to tell.

  28. Today.

  29. You have your own story to tell, You have your

  30. own mouthstone in God to tell.

  31. And when we talk about.

  32. Church, we have to understand that the church is essentially

  33. not just an organization.

  34. It is built by God.

  35. It is built by relationships that are ordained by God.

  36. So today I had the privilege to share with you

  37. my story, and one day I hope to be a

  38. will hear from your story as well. So I started

  39. off Taylor seventeen years actually life fifteen years extraly twenty

  40. one years. I know it's a lot because it might

  41. be older than some of you, but God told me

  42. specifically today I must pray for those of you who

  43. have been holding a role for a minimum of ten years.

  44. Whether you're you're.

  45. Homes leader for ten years, I've been working in the

  46. same company for ten years. You have been doing the

  47. same thing and over again for ten years. I want

  48. to honor you for your faithfulness so we can stand.

  49. Because the Lord has placed something in my heart to

  50. pray for you. Okay, minimum ten years. You have been

  51. doing something for ten years. Anyone, just thean, It's okay.

  52. We want to celebrate faithfulness.

  53. Amen.

  54. That's kind of for them. Amen, these are your faithful people.

  55. You have been in church for ten years. You have

  56. been in homes leader for ten years. You have been

  57. a dream team leader for ten years. Yeah, you have

  58. been in the same industry for ten years. Please stand Amen,

  59. Thank you Jesus. Just raiseful of your hand, hallelujah.

  60. Lord.

  61. Faithfulness is also your nature. When we are fitless, you

  62. remain fitful. I mean you look at the servants whom

  63. you have given talents. Lord, of all the words you

  64. could have chose, you chose good and faithful. And I

  65. thank you God, Lord, that today in your presence, I

  66. am standing among faithful men and faithful women.

  67. Know God, and I know God.

  68. Faithfulness at times requires resilience, requires perseverance, and that faithfulness

  69. really counts, especially at a time when we want to

  70. give up, especially at a time when we think it

  71. is not working out. But yet God, they are still

  72. found standing. Yet God, they are still found.

  73. To be faithful.

  74. So I pray in the mighty name of Jesus, God

  75. Let your joy continue to be their strength. Let their

  76. faithfulness of God Lord lead them to a place of

  77. constant fruitfulness of God. Because when they're fruitful, you receive

  78. all the glory. And when they are fruitful of God Lord,

  79. they make themselves of a disciple of Jesus.

  80. So I pray, Lord, release.

  81. Lord, your joy even right now upon your hearts, upon

  82. their spirit. In Jesus' name, I pray God, You'll release

  83. your favor upon the works of your hands of God Lord,

  84. so that whatever they touch in the mighty name of Jesus.

  85. So God Lord, let it prosper. Let it prosper, Lord.

  86. That it will fix the eyes on you, not to

  87. the left, not to the right, but they will always fix.

  88. Their eyes on you.

  89. I prophetically, Lord, I want to release this word, for

  90. no I have seen, no yes have heard, nor has

  91. it entered into the heart or a mind of man.

  92. The great things you have prepared for those who love you.

  93. So I speak into the spirit of God Lord that

  94. great things are coming their way. Do not give up.

  95. Can't you run the extrama? God is your reward. Some

  96. might think that we have been in a situation. We

  97. have been taking a role for very long When is

  98. the next promotion, When is the next elevation, When is

  99. the next blessing? The Lord is encouraging us. Do not

  100. look to the left, Do not look to the right.

  101. Do not let comparisons rop us from our joy. But

  102. look to the Lord for his our joy. Look to

  103. the Lord for his our rewarder, Look to the Lord

  104. for his our strength. Look to the Lord for his

  105. our comforter. The Lord will reward you the loyal bless

  106. you because you have found to be fitful. You have

  107. been tested, you have been proven, says the Lord. You've

  108. gone through fire, some of you, I see in my

  109. mind you have went through fire. And the Lord says

  110. that it is a refining fire, a refining fire that

  111. shapes correct, a refining fire that built something in you

  112. so that you have the character to carry out the

  113. specific assignment calling the God has given to you specifically.

  114. So remain fitful, remain grounded. The Lord is your reward.

  115. In Jesus' name, we pray, and God's people say, Amen, Amen,

  116. can never see it.

  117. Amen.

  118. So every one of us, when we stepped into ex church,

  119. we have our own story, we have our beginnings in

  120. X and today I just want to share with you

  121. my own story, my own beginning with X Church. My

  122. story started in two o four my sister jesse Some

  123. you may remember Jessena. She was the first one who

  124. attended X Church and she was very fathful. As a family,

  125. we grew up in a background where we are free thinkers.

  126. My dad at one time was a Hindu, so we

  127. also have Hindu statues. But towards the last stages of

  128. his life, he gave up the altar, he gave up

  129. the idols, and became a free thinker. It was in

  130. two or four, less than a year after my dad

  131. retired at the age of fifty six years old. He

  132. passed away and the reason was due to live a

  133. failure and the cause of it is sorry. The cause

  134. of it was excessive drinking. So that was an alcoholic.

  135. So there was substance abuse, using substance as a coping

  136. mechanism to help him to cope depression. I never really

  137. knew about this until when I was growing up being

  138. exposed to into the whole area of mental health well being.

  139. Only I realized that that actually suffered from depression and

  140. he looked to substances as a form of copying mechanism.

  141. But the very thing that he used as a coping

  142. mechanism was the very thing that killed him.

  143. So as a family, we were very shocked. We were

  144. we really don't know what to do.

  145. And when it comes to the funeral arrangement and victor arrangement,

  146. we consulted each other and we decided to just ask

  147. Jesse to ask the church pastor to come and do

  148. a Christian funeral. It sounds a bit weird, but I

  149. tell you why it's not weird later because as a

  150. family we find that okay, number one, Dad gave up

  151. probably Hinduism, and not to disrespect this faith. Just as

  152. family we find that we wanted to be straightforward without

  153. having any rituals that are just a lot things to

  154. do lat So Jesse basically spoke to the church and

  155. tax church actually came to my family at the time

  156. when we were at.

  157. Our lowest so past kind of back then.

  158. The church was very small, probably sixty eighty close to one

  159. hundred maybe came and they supported us the whig service

  160. and funeral. Whig service was really held in my house.

  161. I mean I don't have a big house, but there's

  162. a very small compounder and that's where we did the

  163. whig service. And as a youngest, how many of you here.

  164. You're the youngest child. Okay, I'm the youngest as well.

  165. And let me tell you it's not true when they

  166. say the youngest is the favorite. Okay, everyone is a favorite. Okay,

  167. everyone is a favorite. That the sibling felt that, Okay, Ransa,

  168. you got to share a eulogy because you're the favorite child.

  169. So we actually print out the eulogy and I was

  170. invited to share the eulogy during the week service. And

  171. it was back then and I had an encounter with

  172. the Lord because me and my dad, towards his final days,

  173. I never really had a good closure with my dad.

  174. So I was struggling a lot with guilt, a lot

  175. with remorse. So I identified with families where if one

  176. of your parents are struggling with a form of substance,

  177. I identify with that because I'm here to say that

  178. my family wasn't perfect. I've seen you said. My dad

  179. wasn't abusive. My dad treated us very well. He was

  180. a good man. It's just that he had a struggle

  181. that he didn't know how to cope with. And I

  182. wish that he came to no Christ earlier. So I

  183. identify you know if your family is going through a

  184. situation where it's similar to mine. But I'm also to

  185. tell you here, to tell you that there's always hope

  186. in God. So I had a closure with my dad

  187. and I was struggling in this emotion, and when I

  188. went out, I needed to face a crowd of probably

  189. thirty forty people. I really had no strength to want

  190. to share anything because I was emotionally drinked, and I

  191. realized that there was a presence next to me. I

  192. couldn't explain this, but there was this presence next to me,

  193. and when I look at it right there was one.

  194. But you just knew there was someone, and I felt

  195. someone was actually gripping my hand. And then strength came

  196. out of my spirit for me to be a share

  197. the eulogy. Didn't share the experience with anyone during that

  198. time except for my sister, and when the week service

  199. was done, I shared with my sister. My sister asked

  200. me a few questions. Could it be a stress to

  201. your body? Was it a physiological effect? And I say no.

  202. I played tennis at the Terrans, so we know you

  203. know whether it is it's a spraying or not. We know,

  204. but it's not. I say something supernatural. I've never felt

  205. it before, and one tend me two o four. My

  206. sister was the one that led me to Christ in

  207. my own bit room, say you know, it must have

  208. been Jesus. She was the one that led me to Christ.

  209. And the following week, as an appreciation to the church,

  210. we turned up the next church. Back then it was

  211. opposite as a S fifteen Taylor's College. We have to

  212. climb up three floors up. We were there just to

  213. appreciate the church, an out of respect. I still remember

  214. Passassandra spoke the first message. Passdenna is very consistent, I

  215. must say, for twenty one years i've seen her. She

  216. was very, very consistent, very animated, and I remember the

  217. message she preached was a pruning. You know, she was

  218. holding the kata right. And once that day my brother

  219. rededicated his life, my mom gave her to Jesus, and

  220. I reaffirmed my decision to Christ. I can give God glory.

  221. So it was just attending eggs. And then later I

  222. found out Pascanov's version of his story. Uh back then

  223. was a young pastor as well. Now he is he,

  224. you know, young in spirit, but better than the church

  225. was only four years old, right now, a church was

  226. only four years old. And it's like a not a

  227. usual request from a non believing family asking the pastor

  228. to come to do a whig service and a funeral

  229. for a man that that's a connection with and probably

  230. not in the faith as well. And he struggled with

  231. that because he just came back from us back then

  232. and the request came, and he called up two other

  233. pastors wanting to get consultation.

  234. Advice and all.

  235. Basically, he was discouraged from taking this engagement because the

  236. line of thought is that it should only be for

  237. a believer. Right after all, if you're a pastor, majority

  238. of the family members are not believers, the man is

  239. not a believer.

  240. What would you say? How would you? Minister?

  241. I must say that pass CANIV has also been very

  242. consistent throughout this years.

  243. And he prayed to God and heard the voice of God.

  244. Here's the voice of Jesus telling him, Canne, if I'm

  245. there physically right now on earth, I'll be there with

  246. the family. Based on that obedience, pass the Cane of Kim.

  247. I'm glad he came because It's true. Jesus is always

  248. near to those who are broken hearted, whether you know

  249. him or not, He's always near to those who are

  250. broken hearted. The scripture didn't says he's near to those

  251. who believe and is broken hearted. He's near to those

  252. who are broken hearted. My first imprint that I received

  253. from this church is radical obedience and radical faith, because

  254. to me, what pastor and the church have did back

  255. then was very radical. You hear from God, you obeyed,

  256. and you got to demonstrate.

  257. It by faith.

  258. This has always been the DNA of X Church, and

  259. across the years we have been very consistent in this.

  260. I want to start off with this because for Exuberanjoya

  261. to continue to grow further, it must not neglect radical

  262. obedience and radical faith. Isaiah one nineteen says, if you're

  263. willing and obedience, you will eat the good of the land.

  264. Of course, you know Hebrews eleven. Without faith, it is

  265. impossible to please God. Some ninety chapter ninety two thirteen

  266. say is those who are planted in the house of

  267. the Lord shall flourish in the course of our God.

  268. You know, X is my first church. Never really had

  269. experiences in growing up in another church. And I've made

  270. it as a personal commitment that X will be my

  271. last church. I know it's a very huge commitment to

  272. say this, and it's not my first time to say this.

  273. I've seen the season of X in different stages. I

  274. think so the old timers here you're also seen this

  275. in different stages of season. But I'm here to stand

  276. and testify to you that God is waitful. Unless the

  277. Lord builds his house, his laborers will labor in. So

  278. God is still building X. And the way to build

  279. the church is true people, because when God builds people,

  280. people builds the house. So I want to encourage you

  281. to say that you're in the right place. You're in

  282. a good church. If you're looking for a perfect church,

  283. if you're looking for a perfect community, X is not

  284. the place for you, because no one is perfect.

  285. No one is perfect.

  286. I have my fair share of stories which I want

  287. to share with you later about just growing up in

  288. X and all why I say that X is my

  289. first church and will be my last church because I've

  290. grown my roots here, I've raised my sticks here, and

  291. I've laid many memorial stones here with God in this place.

  292. And I want you, guys to understand that as you

  293. continue to grow with us, whether you be a one

  294. year old with eggs, five years old with eggs, ten

  295. years old, with eggs, fifteen years old, with as when

  296. you reflect back, I'm sure you're able to see your

  297. own memorial stones with God laid in X. Nothing happens

  298. by coincidence. Nothing happens by divine nothing happens by accidents, biskey,

  299. everything happens by divine appointment. So when we say that

  300. those who are planted in the House of the Lord

  301. shall flourish in the courts of our God, we must

  302. grow in roots. And our roots must first be rooted

  303. in Christ. Christ must always be at the center. And secondly,

  304. we must always be rooted in discipleship. This year's team

  305. is discipleship, all of you knowing, and I want to

  306. reiterate that X is called to be a church planting

  307. church with disciple. Through church planting, that has always been

  308. the heart of X. I speak from the capacity as

  309. a church plan coordinator because I know sometimes we can

  310. be either intimidated by oh, let's plan again, or we

  311. can have our own preferences of but we're already doing well.

  312. Why the need to plant? Why the need to have this.

  313. We've got to stay true to our calling. Remember you

  314. guys sent me out, No, just a reminder, you guys

  315. send me out.

  316. So I'm here to remind you.

  317. Guys there that is our calling, that is our calling,

  318. that is our DNA and can tell you the best platform.

  319. To disciple there is always church planting.

  320. So I like to look at new musicians on stage,

  321. new chairpersons being raised up, new speakers being raised up,

  322. because we are not called to.

  323. Be a.

  324. Church where there's only one worship team on a sudden

  325. few can serve, or a one man church. Our pastor

  326. is very clear in the calling that God has given

  327. to X and we disciple through church planting. Now that

  328. doesn't mean that whatever other churches do is wrong. I

  329. want to be very careful with this because I want

  330. to say that X Church is a small church. We

  331. are not called to be a big church because it

  332. got clearly told pastor that we are here to build

  333. a movement, not a monument. Monument basically means everyone together

  334. and there's no life. But movement is always organic. Movement

  335. always brings about. Movements will bring you to places that

  336. you would never have imagined. You will venture to like Nelai.

  337. So you can only do that like when you're part

  338. of a movement. But for certain churches, they are to

  339. lead the church as God directs the leadership.

  340. So what I want to say is.

  341. That if we see acts as a place like for me,

  342. I've grown my roots, I raised my stake. I got

  343. to keep my eyes focused on Jesus who have caught

  344. me here. I got to keep my eyes focused and

  345. not compare, because comparison a day on day will lead

  346. us to a place of tatenancy. But if you begin

  347. to focus on Jesus, you obey him, he will lead

  348. you to a place where you need to be. For me,

  349. I know God wants me to be here. So in

  350. an area of discipleship, there are two things that I

  351. would like to live with you today. To me, even

  352. in my own life, discipleship equals to choosing submission and

  353. raising our stick. Submission is not an easy thing to

  354. teach or to talk about. By praise God for Elie,

  355. who have earlier went out to confirm the message Ephicients

  356. five twenty. She mentioned about submission, So truly she didn't

  357. check with me. I didn't check with her, But truly

  358. it is the word of the Lord of the season

  359. for you. It was a devotion, Praise God. There's no

  360. consultation going on, but I guess.

  361. Is the Lord's word for you.

  362. And as a leader, I have to tell you that

  363. submission is not the easiest thing to talk about. Submission

  364. is not the easiest thing to teach, because it may

  365. imply like, huh, I have to submit to you.

  366. You get me. But we must. We must teach it biblically.

  367. All the fruits that I have today, where it be ministry,

  368. where it be in my marketplace, I can tell you

  369. it's a result of submission to a spiritual authority and

  370. leadership in acts in Hebrews thirteen seventeen says obey those

  371. who rule over you and be submissive, for they wash

  372. out for your souls. As those who must give account,

  373. let them do so with joy and not with grief,

  374. for that would be unprofitable to you. You see, we

  375. live in a world where more cultures are shifting towards

  376. a form of I would term me as hyper individualism,

  377. where everything is just about me. Don't tell me what

  378. to do. I'm the leader of my own life. I

  379. will take charge of my own life and it's very individualistic.

  380. But if you look at true biblical relationship, submission has

  381. always been one of the word that the Bible has described.

  382. So submission is biblical. Submission is not a bad word.

  383. Submission doesn't make one looks weak from a guy's perspective.

  384. It doesn't also big one. If let say, I submit

  385. to a leader, it makes me looks meek. Why I say, guys,

  386. Because guys, we always have our ego, we always have

  387. our own pride. And when someone tell us something that

  388. we don't agree with but we need to submit with,

  389. that's when it really counts.

  390. So a scripture says that we are.

  391. To obey those who rule over us and be submissive,

  392. for they watch for our souls. I can tell you

  393. if you have a best boss in a marketplace, they

  394. take care of your needs and all, which is very good.

  395. I pray that in next church everyone will have a

  396. good boss. Okay, if you're a boss, you will be

  397. the best boss. I pray you'll have that and you'll

  398. be that. But one thing in the marketplace is they

  399. don't watch over your soul. Only the people that God

  400. has appointed in church can wash over your soul, can

  401. contend with the power of gardeners. Interceed for your life

  402. and pray for breakthrough, pray for deliverance to come upon

  403. your life. Only the church leadership can do that because

  404. God has given authority to the church. So it means

  405. here they watch out for your souls and that we,

  406. as leaders, we should do so with joy, and joy

  407. is a very important ingredient. We should not do it

  408. with grief, for it would be unprofitable for you. Now

  409. I'm going to break down forwards. Rule over you basically

  410. means to lead. I means, as leaders, we are meant

  411. to lead, to guide, to go before you. It implies

  412. leadership by example, influence and care, and not domination. Sometimes

  413. people don't submit because they think that as a leader,

  414. they will rule over us. But we look at bibical leadership.

  415. Jesus says the greatest of all shall be the least

  416. of all.

  417. And Jesus was the.

  418. One that introduced servant leadership. Okay, so twenty one years here,

  419. I've never seen any domination over my life. I've never

  420. seen ronson where it is you must you must. If

  421. you don't, there will be consequences. I don't say ronson,

  422. you do this, you must, you must but we're all

  423. it is out of that reverence towards the leadership. It

  424. is out of their own life example, out of their

  425. own testimony, out of their own reputation, out of their

  426. walk with Jesus, good reputation full of the Holy Spirit.

  427. So as we look at the lines of the leadership,

  428. there is something that we also desire and as a result,

  429. we want to follow and to obey. Here basically means

  430. you obey because you trust the person. It is not

  431. out of blind submission. The church cannot be built based

  432. on blind submission. It must be built and anchored on

  433. relationships that you trust and relationship that you can submit

  434. to submitsay basically means it's a volunteery yielding. So as

  435. at LEAs shared from Ephicient chapter five, when they say, wife,

  436. submit to your husband just as Christ, that just as

  437. the husband should love the wife as Christ love the Church.

  438. Now I can say this because a share and redding

  439. um sort of submit. There is a volume theory act.

  440. It means that the husband loves Christ so much the

  441. husband love the wife and it makes it easier for

  442. the wife to submit. So in the church context to

  443. me is similar where you see your leaders love Christ.

  444. You see that your leaders love you, it makes it

  445. easier for you to submit to them volunteerily. Watch out

  446. here basically means to stay awake, to be vigilant, keep watch,

  447. remain alert and slipless out of concert as your homes leader,

  448. as your elders here, do you actually have sleeplesiness night

  449. where you don't sleep because you're worried about people in

  450. your congregation because you're going through stuff and all.

  451. I'm sure there is.

  452. I'm sure there is, because as a church plant coordinator,

  453. I'm telling you there are days where we also worried

  454. over our people.

  455. We just want them to grow well in Christ. We

  456. just want them to make godly decisions that align to

  457. biblical standards so that they don't shot change themselves, so

  458. that they can grow and flourish into the things of God.

  459. And I know that you know, the next church a

  460. bit unique because most of our leaders are young. That's

  461. justex and for people who are older, Let's say, in

  462. case you're curious about my age, I'm forty one by eli.

  463. Let's say I have people who are older than me.

  464. It's often difficult, isn't it When you look at young

  465. leadership and then bribically speaking, you're supposed to submit to.

  466. A leadership, but the leadership is young.

  467. There's a slight that I put in a statement that

  468. it is not blind submission, but biblical and bold submission

  469. built in faith first in God who is the truth,

  470. and faith in the leadership above first, where you have

  471. to look at their track record and testimonies. So for

  472. all the folks who are part of this vision, for

  473. other folks who you're willing to even listen to your

  474. homes leader, who may be your junior, I respect you

  475. a lot because I know it's not easy. It's often

  476. easier to say. You know, that's what I'm saying. You

  477. are young, you haven't experienced life in the fifties or

  478. sixty year. But you know you're willing to listen, You're

  479. willing to be open. That says a lot about you.

  480. That speaks about the spirit of Christ in you. One

  481. thing to align to His truth and submission can only

  482. be easy when we first submit to God. Then it

  483. makes submission to the leaders easier. Let me share with

  484. you that honor is the cornerstone of submission. Honor is

  485. a cornerstone of submission. I'm going to use a family example.

  486. If you are not comfortable with this example, please with me,

  487. because in every family I say, it's not perfect, right,

  488. it's not perfect. Now we live in an era where

  489. apps are getting popular. That would mean banks are also

  490. actil they have moved to be digital. Okay, I stay

  491. with my mom. She is seventy three years old this year.

  492. With my mom, she's not very good in technology.

  493. It's not very good.

  494. So whenever the bank asked her to do online banking

  495. and at banking, she will feel.

  496. Very stressed up.

  497. And a common thing that my mom will always come

  498. and ask me is ronson, I can't remember my password.

  499. I know, I know, guys, I opened up my altar later,

  500. all right, we're okay. And then I find myself have

  501. to be like, okay, let's reset the passwords because I

  502. can't remember the password as well, all right, because understanding

  503. that if it is your account, you remember your on password.

  504. Back then, we don't have biometrics yet. So I noticed

  505. that two, three, four times always reseat listen there, and

  506. honestly I felt a bit agitated. It's like, how many

  507. times I need to help you? I thought, I told

  508. you alreally sounds familiar. Youone sounds familiar. Okay, Lila Cabe

  509. passes an not perfect.

  510. I'm just saying, uh.

  511. So one day, out of sudden, I didn't shout by notice,

  512. I raised my voice almost the line of I've told

  513. you many times? How came you just don't want to learn?

  514. Or this suna? Not good? Not good? Not good?

  515. Since I leave the conversation, the Holy Spirit rebuilt me.

  516. Those of you who have been rebuilt by the Holy Spirit,

  517. you know how it felt. Basically, it's not a place

  518. of condemnation, but it's a place of conviction. The only

  519. speak says this, I got to rebuild, he says, onsen.

  520. When you were young, who took care of you? I say, mom,

  521. when you poop and you couldn't clean yourself, who took

  522. care of you?

  523. I say, mom? When you were weak? Who took care

  524. of you? I say, mom?

  525. Just because you are now more educated, just because now

  526. you are stronger. What gives you the right to raise

  527. your voice? You know, when you get in a conversation

  528. with the Holy Spirit, there's really no point to but

  529. not how many times must I do this?

  530. But not? I told her?

  531. Right when you really hear from the Holy Spirit, you

  532. just knew you knew, you knew in your spirit. It

  533. is a conviction. It is a conviction that only He

  534. can give. My mom is a very forgiving person. So

  535. after I went to my mom, I say sorry, yeah,

  536. I hey, why you laugh for your I say, ah, sorry,

  537. I raised my voice and you you know what, Mom say, hey, no, what,

  538. It's okay, It's okay. But the point I want to

  539. draw out is basically this right. Sometimes, this attitude of mine,

  540. if it's not in check, can come out in our

  541. relationship in church. It may come across as because you see,

  542. most of us grew up in eggs, the older folks

  543. at our campus. Yes, and today, of course we are

  544. in a marketplace. If we are not careful right, we

  545. may approach leadership like what does our leaders know about?

  546. You know, I'm here in the marketplace, I'm big time,

  547. I have this achievement, I have this accolades and whatever.

  548. The leadership is aligning to the vision of God, and

  549. we say.

  550. Let's grow big to grow small.

  551. Maybe you find it difficult to agree with because in

  552. your organization you do things differently. In the world, they

  553. do things differently. And sometimes I have to remind myself

  554. that the greatest test of submission is when you think

  555. you have attained certain standard in life, certain successes in life,

  556. can you still submit to the very voice that has

  557. been with you when you needed them. Don't let successes,

  558. don't let riches get to your heat to a point

  559. where now you despise the very voice that used to

  560. correct you, and now they are correcting you, and you despise.

  561. That because that is not biblical. That is not biblical.

  562. So after the pandemic in twenty twenty two, Xdey Line

  563. was one of the last church plan line that opened

  564. up because when the government opened up the borders interstate,

  565. we were the last church plan that opened up because

  566. we couldn't find a venue. We couldn't. We just couldn't

  567. find a venue. Even if we found a venue, the

  568. course is too high for us. I felt very bad.

  569. You know, every time it goes to bound they comment

  570. and see me. That's when it's XLI starting. So I

  571. have told them, hey, you sent me up, but I'm

  572. coming back. So in February twenty twenty two, that's when

  573. we restarted. After I wrote a letter to the owner

  574. of the hotel because God dropped into my heart. That's

  575. right to the owner and asked for his help, so

  576. open the door. He gave us a reasonably small roupe

  577. to meet. Our first worship service was the nature of

  578. people or less, I don't know. Subsequent was only what

  579. about their size? And Monday the Holy Spirit whispered into

  580. my ears.

  581. He says that Ronsan, I care more for the spirit of.

  582. Your church than the size of your church. That means

  583. the size of our spirit must be big in God.

  584. Because if we are a big church, but the size

  585. of our spirit and God is small, that's not what

  586. God is looking for. So eventually we grew and we

  587. needed a new venue. We had a ballroom just adjacent

  588. to our current room. Those of you who been to

  589. Nila you probably know. But they quoted ridiculous price, very ridiculous,

  590. and I find that, okay, let's move out. We prayed, actually,

  591. and we decided to move out. We found a venue,

  592. a new venue, and the venue is basically done by

  593. a marketing agency. They also do event management. They're very nice, stitch,

  594. very nice, led screen, full D screen, they got their lights.

  595. Everything. We went there, we wreckire.

  596. We went there with WRECKI and all we thought it

  597. was okay, maybe for a season we should.

  598. Use that.

  599. The church loved it in Eline, and we told the owner,

  600. let's do a twelve. First, we will use for one

  601. month and then after that one month we will decide.

  602. But we also look for our revenue. So we started

  603. off very well, actually so much so that they also

  604. assign us a sound engineer. So many you serve a

  605. sound team. You don't have to set up. You know,

  606. the sound engineer will set up for you. We will

  607. use their assets, and the pricing was just right. They

  608. said there are a certain agreements we need to explore further.

  609. So one day is I had to share with this

  610. story so funny. So when while the worshiping was practicing,

  611. the sound engineer decided to put on their concerts like

  612. they're on a smooth machine. To go to the sign,

  613. say hold on, hold on, we don't need that. That's

  614. not how we worship. I told my team that we're not.

  615. Even though we pay for the rent and they allow

  616. us to use some fancy lights, they allow us to

  617. use whatever I thought.

  618. I churched that.

  619. This is how we worship. Next, we just need white lights.

  620. That's how we worship. But suffice to say, it gives

  621. you a good picture of how good the venue was

  622. there was one drawback. The drawback is that we have

  623. to clean up the venue after that because actually they

  624. don't allow us to wear shoes, but we want to

  625. wear shoes and they say okay, And we don't want

  626. to pay cleaning fee because for cleaning fee they will

  627. charge you one a year. They say, okay, after church,

  628. we will clean the venue ourselves in creating the toilets.

  629. So as a church from Kordinta, when I took that decision,

  630. we took it prayer fully as well. We updated TSBO

  631. and all and they were agreeable. One day, Ella Kina

  632. decided to call me. Elika was my first man. Oh

  633. today he's still my mentor. Just that I now account

  634. to aascana and he says that Ronson, I think it's

  635. good for you to move out of that place. Have

  636. you ever been in a position where you just started,

  637. you begin to like something and then the leadership comes

  638. in and say nope, so for you, you got to

  639. give that up. Be in that situation before it before. Yeah,

  640. I'm no different. So when I heard that, I was

  641. like almost like a difficult pill to swallow. Because I'm

  642. a church proan coordinator. I just let my our plan here.

  643. Then after month we need to move out. But to

  644. be fair, we really told the owner we just need

  645. one month to trial. After that we will we will

  646. make a decision. So I struggled with that. I struggle

  647. with that, I can tell you I struggle with that.

  648. Thoughts like.

  649. The leadership is not in MELI they don't know the

  650. ground fifteen years you know, I know the ground, eldip, Oh,

  651. I know the ground. I think that this is the

  652. right place we pray. Really, you know, all these thoughts like, oh,

  653. they don't understand I used your name, you don't understand.

  654. I was struggling in this thought because it almost looked

  655. like I need to do a self check. Actually lie

  656. belongs to who? Hey, you guys sent me out, you know,

  657. so actually it's on mind. It's our ways right. So

  658. to submit to the leadership of the church. It wasn't difficult.

  659. But Elder told me this, Why don't you go back

  660. to the owner of the first place we're meeting and

  661. see whether.

  662. There's God's favor there.

  663. Honestly, when the hotel quota does the price, I never

  664. thought about going to the owner and asked for about

  665. the price, because I don't want to be seen like

  666. asking for a lot of favor when there was a

  667. really favor now move out. So I'm always struggled between

  668. balancing between what we should be paying and what is

  669. what we are affordable and not try.

  670. To push it.

  671. That's just mela, so very difficult to move on of

  672. the venue. And eventually the testimony is this is that

  673. they gave us a fifty percent reduction, Elissa, for you

  674. to fifty percent reduction in the current venue where we're admitting.

  675. Think about it, right, things could have swayed. You know,

  676. if I was stubborn counter other thing. Ohkay, don't understand that.

  677. I think they will still allow me probably, but I

  678. knew I have dis orbeit and disobedience doesn't attract blessing.

  679. I needed to trust the wisdom of my eldest. I

  680. cannot say to myself they don't know when they were

  681. also prayerful. I cannot say myself that they don't care.

  682. But the fact that they care, they care enough to

  683. tell me they care enough to pray. Otherwise we won't

  684. be having this testimony or favor fifty percent reduction. The

  685. current place is actually very good because the cappack is

  686. plenty the other place I spoke to you, if we

  687. were to grow to eighteen ninety, we may have to

  688. jam all the way down because only one live one

  689. small lif days.

  690. And then.

  691. I want to share with you this to say that

  692. sometimes even as leaders, there will always be that challenge

  693. to submit to leaders. And I think about it that

  694. even at my level, if I had a challenge, what

  695. about people who are.

  696. Not in leadership. But I'm here also to let you

  697. know that.

  698. Submission is bypical because those who submitted the most will

  699. succeed the most. I'll give you an example in looks

  700. after five, the fisherman was washing their net. Then you

  701. got a carpenter who went into Simon Peter's boat and

  702. throw Simon Peter launch out into the deck. So obviously

  703. Jesus was on the boat back then, his profession was

  704. a carpenter before he went full time right at the

  705. age of thirty. Peter could have look at Jesus and

  706. say that you're just a carpenter. You don't know what

  707. you're talking about. We just went out to the sea.

  708. We know the timing to fish. Sim Peter didn't say that.

  709. Sim Peter just said, we have taught all night we

  710. have caught none, which is a fact, Thank God. He said, nevertheless,

  711. add your word, we will go into the deck. Sometimes

  712. God will allow situations where he uses your leaders to

  713. come and to carry that. I know many of us

  714. want to hear from God. I know you want to

  715. hear the audible voice of God. I know I know,

  716. but I'm sorry to say that often he will use

  717. men and women who loves you, who care for you,

  718. to come and carry his voice. Now, if you hear

  719. the audible voice of God means you're very special because

  720. the calling will be higher on you.

  721. And when He tells you, you better do.

  722. Because we have also seen people say, oh, God told

  723. me this, God told me that, great, fantastic. What are

  724. you doing about what you have heard? Are you willing

  725. to sub it to the very voice that you have heard?

  726. And does it align to scripture? I want to say

  727. that spiritual covering comes true alignment, that we first have

  728. to align with God first, and then with the spiritual

  729. leadership that God appoints. Blessing will flow where there is

  730. unity and godly order, and often it is that submission

  731. that brings us to that order. Some hundred and thirty

  732. three says Behold how good and how pleasant it is

  733. for Bedron to dwell together in unity. It is like

  734. the precious oil upon the heat running down on the beard,

  735. the beard of Erin, who is the priest, running down

  736. on the age of his garments. It is like the

  737. duw of herman descending upon the mountains of Zion. For

  738. there the Lord commanded the blessing life forevermore. The first

  739. point for today is submission. Second point is increase your stick.

  740. I know I have said this a lot, but I

  741. want to say this again that God wants me to

  742. remind next Subangjaya your legacy. You are a church planting church. Hey,

  743. you did not just send me, you know, you also

  744. probably send Clang. I don't know Clan was sent by Ampump.

  745. You send Pgah. You said Cyberja. Cyberjaya was the first

  746. plan you sent out next day, if you're doing all

  747. night as a jack, here and remind all of us, right,

  748. subang Jaya, God has always positioned you and used you

  749. as a church planting church. In fact, all of us

  750. in next every plant should be a church planting church.

  751. I'm here to tell you that it is time to

  752. plan again, again and again.

  753. Really there are so.

  754. Many lives out there that need to hear the gospel,

  755. and each one of you carry with you that seat

  756. to plant something, the potential to plant something. So the

  757. best example of ownership is increasing your stick. How are

  758. you increasing your stick in this church? Because I'm here

  759. to tell you that X is not a comfortable church.

  760. X is not a comfortable church. We are a movement,

  761. We're not a monument. So for twelve years serving in Neeli,

  762. God opened the door for me to buy my own

  763. property in Kneelin because for the first twelve years I

  764. was actually traveling from Subang to Neeli. I've seen the

  765. LdB toe from runnering it.

  766. To one sixteen to ten or thirteen.

  767. Now yeah, I'm also seeing the elite highway to being reduced.

  768. Praise God for our new government, amenh U said before something.

  769. Now I think they have some cerdaen toal reduction. And

  770. it has never.

  771. Easy because you've got to travel after work for prayer service,

  772. You've got to travel after work for homes, you got

  773. to travel after work to do life with people. And

  774. I always after church, I will once a while drive

  775. around Nearli and I always have this dream of just

  776. buying a land, you build something from scrash. I have

  777. never really favored high rise residential. It's a preference. There's

  778. nothing wrong with high rise. There's a preference that I

  779. would wish not to have. But one day I saw

  780. this advertisment. I thought, it's a new development. Why not

  781. just go and have a look. And the moment I

  782. step into it, something resonate in me that this is

  783. the place I need to put my stick in. Because

  784. you see, how can I, as a pastor of Exili,

  785. have a house address in subang Jaya and people you

  786. walk around NELI, oh you're a pastor, where do you stay?

  787. I stay in subang Jaya. Personally, I don't feel aligne right.

  788. That's the thing that Holy Spirits given to me. I

  789. don't feel a line.

  790. And today I can say that, by the grace of God,

  791. I own a place.

  792. Monthly. I would tell you the payment. But it's quite

  793. a lot as well for a place that I only

  794. stay in. A man probably hit this ten days over

  795. the weekend Friday, Saturday, Sunday and then I'm back to work.

  796. But it does cost me something to build the church.

  797. It will always cost you something because I say, our

  798. mindset got change I cannot say that these church is

  799. church one. Why should I, you know, trouble all the

  800. way plant in Ely, do these things in Nelai, you know, time, travel, money.

  801. We've got to start to take ownership in whatever capacity

  802. you can. It's about if it is about to start serving,

  803. then you just start serving.

  804. If it is about.

  805. Opening up your house for example, for homes, then you

  806. can start with that. It is about helping another person

  807. to get to church because you have a very nice car,

  808. for example, then you can start off with that. But

  809. for me, I find that after serving in New life

  810. for so long, it's time to take ground. It's time

  811. to take that stick. Following so far, you guys catching

  812. something so far so prophetically, I feel for ex Subanjaya,

  813. I find that there's a lot of alignment because I

  814. didn't know about your devotion and all, and it's so

  815. aligned to today's message.

  816. I have the.

  817. Scripture in Isa fifty four for you that I feel

  818. will be the mental of your plan. Is f fifty

  819. four was to say, en launch the place of your

  820. tent and let them stretch out on the curtains of

  821. your dwelling. Do not spare lengthened your cords and strengthen

  822. your sticks. It's time to level up our sticks. It's

  823. time to say this is my church. It's time to

  824. take ownership at a higher level. It's time to launch

  825. out again, to plan again.

  826. Amen.

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  832. God bless