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CR Sunday | November 9 2025

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  1. Hi, I'm John Wonderful. Probably noticed actually,

  2. before you even say anything. Turn with me in your Bibles,

  3. would you? To the letter of First Timothy.

  4. First Timothy, you probably noticed I got a bit of a frog.

  5. A frog, a frog and my throat. And the cold bug is knocking on

  6. my door here. Just greeted me this morning and

  7. I said hey, not not 100%, she says.

  8. I already knew that I am not 100% appreciate Jess and her

  9. humor and everything that she's doing with CR Jill, the team,

  10. you guys have just been awesome and it is a is a pleasure just

  11. to be talking specifically about CR this morning, dedicating this

  12. Sunday to it. We have we've heard some

  13. testimonies already through some of these video clips and Henry,

  14. what you were sharing. Thank you for that Devo Devo

  15. devotional. And if you're a follower of

  16. Jesus Christ, you have a testimony.

  17. And so I would just ask you, what is your testimony?

  18. What is your testimony? When I talk about testimony,

  19. there's a number of different ways that's used and maybe

  20. testimonial maybe the the better word to be using.

  21. But testimony can refer to our life like our spiritual journey,

  22. how I became a Christian and that's what we're talking about

  23. the profession of faith classes after the service.

  24. But I'm not specifically talking about that.

  25. I'm just talking about testifying to God at work in my

  26. life. How is God at work in my life?

  27. How do I, how can I explain the the the intersection between my

  28. knee, my need, and the grace of God at work in my life?

  29. Particularly if you are a follower of Jesus, if you are a

  30. Christian, you have a testimony. Testimonies are so powerful.

  31. They're incredibly powerful and it's really the key, or one of

  32. the keys anyway, to the success of the Celebrate Recovery

  33. Ministry. Learning to be open about our

  34. lives, learning to share the struggles that we have in our

  35. lives, learning to be real with one another.

  36. And we need more of that. We need more of that.

  37. You might think to yourself, OK, you know, do I have a testimony?

  38. I there's, there's no way I could stand up in front of

  39. people and share something like that so, so deeply.

  40. Do not sell yourself short. You and I as followers of Jesus

  41. Christ, if you're a follower, you were made for this.

  42. You were made for this. So this morning, all I wanna do

  43. just for a few minutes, briefly share about why we share

  44. testimonies and how we can do a better job of sharing

  45. testimonies. All right.

  46. So, Father, as we, as we open this glorious word that you've

  47. given to us, we pray that you'd send your Holy Spirit to us in

  48. the name of Jesus, awaken us to the things that you want us to

  49. see, to know, and to live out. For your namesake we pray.

  50. Amen. First Timothy chapter 1.

    1 Timothy 1 chapter mention

  51. We're just reading 2 verses, verse 15 to 17 or 15 to 16.

  52. First Timothy chapter 1, starting at verse 15.

    1 Timothy 1 chapter mention

  53. This is the apostle Paul speaking.

  54. He says here is a trustworthy scene that deserves full

  55. acceptance. Christ Jesus came into the world

  56. to save sinners, of whom I am the worst, but for that very

  57. reason, I have shown mercy so that in me the worst of sinners,

  58. Christ Jesus might display His immense patience as an example

  59. for those who would believe in Him and receive eternal life.

  60. I love Paul, you know, as you read his letters, he, he's, he's

  61. a very intense individual and he's, he's got a purpose for

  62. every letter that he writes. But every once in a while in the

  63. middle of his argument, he just kind of breaks into praise of

  64. God. And, and it's celebrating this

  65. incredible news that, and this is what he's saying, that God

  66. has come to meet us in our struggles and he has come to

  67. save sinners, to minister to us, to heal us, to not just

  68. confront, but to comfort us and to restore us, transform us to

  69. become more like him that Jesus, the whole, his whole plan was to

  70. come and to save us, to help us. Every single one of us can be

  71. labeled a Sinner. All of us have fallen short of

  72. the glory of God. And in the Apostle Paul, he's

  73. just not apologetic about that at all.

  74. But I want to. I just want to highlight 2 words

  75. in these verses. The words I am in verse 15.

  76. So Paul says Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners,

  77. of whom I am the worst. You know, if you know Paul, Paul

  78. had a pretty incredible past. He was a very uptight, very

  79. religious, very legalistic Pharisee.

  80. And he was actually so much so he was persecuting the Church of

  81. Jesus Christ until God awakened him and showed him the light.

  82. But he was, he was a bad dude, a bad religious dude.

  83. So we had a horrible past, but Paul doesn't say Christ Jesus

  84. came into the world to save sinners, of whom I was the

  85. worst. What does he say?

  86. It's in the present tense. Of whom I am the worst, like

  87. currently. This is such a critical point

  88. because Paul realized that as many of the bad things that he

  89. had done in the past, currently, right now he saw himself as the

  90. worst of sinners. Now, how could Paul, such a

  91. spiritual giant, speak like that?

  92. How can he say that? Because the more mature we get

  93. in Christ, the more time we spent with the Sinless 1, we see

  94. the flaws in ourselves more and more.

  95. And he couldn't, he couldn't not see that.

  96. And so This is why he's just blown away by the mercy of God,

  97. not just that showed up way back on the road of Damascus, but

  98. now, like now, God was showing in his showing his mercy.

  99. In fact, the way he describes it is, is that Jesus is displaying

  100. his immense patience for Paul even now.

  101. When we come, when we can come to that place, we realize the

  102. flaws, the flaws in me, Mr. John Digiovanni, when the flaws in me

  103. are covered by Jesus Christ, that that he knows me through

  104. and through, He knows. He knows flaws that I know

  105. nothing about in me, and he loves me so, and he's come to

  106. save me from that. It changes everything, even the

  107. way that I relate to people. This is what Paul is is is

  108. describing here. And so God was using his life,

  109. not just his past but his present, as an example to

  110. display his immense patience for human beings.

  111. He is using Paul's life as a way to help other people to come to

  112. know God and enter into relationship with him as an

  113. encouragement. We all need that and that became

  114. a passion for his life. Your next chapter 20.

  115. He says, you know, my only aim is to finish the race and

  116. complete the task the Lord Jesus has given me here.

  117. It is the task of testifying to the good news of God's grace.

  118. That's what he was all about. I just want to testify.

  119. I want to make known. I wanted to clear the good news

  120. of God's grace that is all over my life.

  121. He talks about it in in his other letters, Second

  122. Corinthians, particularly this point, he talks about this

  123. treasure that we have in jars of clay, this power of God at work

  124. in us. But we're jars of clay, we're

  125. weak, we're frail, we're flawed, but the grace of God is working

  126. on me. Even says later in that letter

  127. that he talks about that the the the power of God is made perfect

  128. in my weakness. And that is the reality for

  129. every single one of us. You know, the beauty of God's

  130. goodness and his kindness and his patience with us is on

  131. display through the backdrop of our brokenness and and and

  132. flawed personalities and lives. This is what he's doing, and so

  133. it's so powerful when we share our struggles.

  134. I used to think that after coming to Jesus, my life has to

  135. be all together. And my testimony was that my

  136. life was together. And I don't know if you've ever

  137. felt that before, but the the pressure is on to live a kind of

  138. a perfect life because I want to be a good testimony to other

  139. people. This is my this is my young

  140. Christian life. And so the temptation is to hide

  141. who I really am. Because if you really saw my

  142. flaws and you thought and you're a Christian, like seriously, you

  143. know, I'm not going to believe in your gut that that's kind of

  144. the fear. But actually the opposite is

  145. true. When people see our flaws and

  146. how the grace of God is operating on us, that's what

  147. like that, that's suddenly there's a human connection going

  148. on. I remember when I was working

  149. out in the in the front yard one day and my garage door was open

  150. and my neighbor came by and he says, ah, looking at your garage

  151. makes me feel so much better about my own right.

  152. And I never thought of it as like, you know, OK, so you know,

  153. rather than trying to make my garage look wonderful for the

  154. whole world to see that oht man, he must be a wonderful guy and

  155. and a great Christian because there's look at his garage.

  156. It's so much in order, right? Actually, the opposite is true.

  157. It's not that we try to mess it up on purpose, but we want to be

  158. real, right? And, and it and it was, it

  159. taught me that day that when my life is not fully together, I

  160. can actually relate to people more that people can relate to

  161. me more as a, as a human being. And so, man, my flaws on display

  162. you, I mean, for those of you that call forest be home, you,

  163. you get my flaws every every Sunday morning.

  164. But this is the partial Paul, the way that he is operating,

  165. that God is displaying his immense patience with me, and

  166. that I am currently, as he sees it, the worst of sinners through

  167. his fellowship with the perfect God.

  168. No, it's not for any of us that OK.

  169. My testimony is that I was really bad and then all of a

  170. sudden God made me good and everything's good now.

  171. It's that sanctification has begun.

  172. It's begun. It's not finished until the day

  173. I meet Jesus face to face, but it's begun.

  174. And the call is like, so come along with me, come along with

  175. me. This is how God is changing my

  176. life. This is how God is working in my

  177. life. Come on with me and let's

  178. encourage one another in the way of Jesus Christ.

  179. Celebrate. Recovery is just all over that.

  180. It's about coming out if I can use that language like I'm a

  181. human being and I have flaws and my life is unmanageable in

  182. particular areas and I need help.

  183. And you know what? I'm a human being just like

  184. anybody else. That's our predicament, you

  185. know. That's why we we read over,

  186. heard, heard it read what you just touched when those

  187. principles were shared this morning.

  188. Like anyway, Principle 4, this is how it's put, and this week

  189. this is where we see it. You know, I will openly examine

  190. and confess my faults to myself, to God and someone I trust.

  191. Beautiful. It's based on step five of the

  192. 12 step program. You know, we admit to God, to

  193. ourselves and to another human being, the exact nature of our

  194. wrongs that there's there's something about confessing,

  195. there's something about admitting that brings healing.

  196. And this is what James is talking about in chapter 5 of

  197. James when he says, you know, therefore confess your sins to

  198. one another, to each other and pray for each other so that you

  199. may be healed. There's healing in that and and

  200. CR just takes that very seriously.

  201. That healing is not just for us who share, but it's actually for

  202. others who are sharing things too.

  203. That there's, there's, there's, there's something that happens

  204. when we're honest about our struggles.

  205. There's a real human connection that takes place.

  206. It's like a sacred moment that happens.

  207. And for those of you who have joined new life groups this

  208. fall, you're probably around the time when things are starting to

  209. open up. People are starting to open up.

  210. A lot of this last Wednesday in our life group just started

  211. opening up about where their desires are gone, have gone

  212. wayward. It's powerful time.

  213. This is where ministry happens. In fact, part of the testimony.

  214. It's not just so much that, hey, I know that, you know, you know,

  215. God is meeting me in this particular place.

  216. Sometimes we can't even see where God is meeting us in our

  217. struggle, but we share our struggle anyway.

  218. And it's in the midst of that, when we're in community with

  219. other believers, fellow strugglers, that we begin to

  220. experience the grace of God through support and through

  221. encouragement, and then through their prayers, and we see God

  222. moving. It's all kind of working

  223. together. So when people begin to open up

  224. to you because we as the Church of Jesus Christ, we're far from

  225. perfect, but we would just want to get better and better and

  226. better to open up with each other, but also to hear others

  227. open up to us and we what few things we need to resist.

  228. We need to resist the strong temptation to fix their problem,

  229. solve their problem. You know that that that that

  230. temptation is strong or to minimize the problem, like, oh,

  231. come on, That's not you know, or compare the problem.

  232. Oh, you think that's bad way to hear right.

  233. You know we do. That's what we do.

  234. But to listen and embrace and to enter into their vulnerability,

  235. it's something that is a bit sometimes counterintuitive, but

  236. the more that we practice, the better, the better it gets.

  237. We were meant to share the journey together, encourage one

  238. another daily, and we do that through our testimony.

  239. So if you're a follower of Jesus, you have a testimony to

  240. share. You do so.

  241. How do we get better at this? Um, I believe strongly that the

  242. way we get better at sharing testimony is just by doing it

  243. and that we were made to do it. That really it's more about

  244. removing barriers to doing it than anything else.

  245. You know, the heavens declare the glory of God, the skies

  246. proclaim the work of his hands, like all creation is declaring

  247. the glory of God. Just that's that's what creation

  248. does and that's what we were meant to do too.

  249. And so I believe that we were meant to share this.

  250. And so it's just about removing barriers.

  251. I just want to just kind of close with just a few barriers.

  252. What the number one barrier to it that I believe we need to

  253. overcome is pride. That's a big word.

  254. We don't solve that problem. And just like a 60 seconds of a

  255. sermon, but just that idea that, you know, I don't even know my

  256. need. I don't, I don't know my need

  257. for the grace of God. So different from the Apostle

  258. Paul. Well, Apostle Paul, there was a

  259. time in his life someone's got to get that to time.

  260. There's a time in Paul's life when he didn't know that he was

  261. in need of the grace of God until the grace of God hit him.

  262. And then he realised, OK, wow, right.

  263. Or sometimes we even deny that we need we can't we can't admit

  264. that we need the grace of God. Remember a regular attender

  265. Deforest View was struggling with alcohol and come to church

  266. inebriated and you could just smell it on them right and and

  267. I'll just say this. You are most welcome if you're

  268. an equated to come to church like we, we our doors are open

  269. to everybody like you are most welcome.

  270. But in walking with this individual and, and, and, and in

  271. those moments when they show up, it's like, you know, have you

  272. been drinking? No, but I, I, I know that you

  273. have been right. So there was this real denial,

  274. and part of the AA program is there is an admission, you know,

  275. hi, I'm John, and I'm an alcoholic.

  276. That there's something powerful about admitting, like getting

  277. over the pride of that. I have to have it all.

  278. I'm an alcoholic and this person refused to admit that and as a

  279. result the marriage was ruined. The whole life was torn apart,

  280. hit rock bottom and finally I'm an alcoholic.

  281. And that's when life began to turn around for them.

  282. Now, one of the beautiful things that I appreciate about

  283. Celebrate Recovery is it's so it's not we we don't introduce

  284. ourselves as I'm an alcoholic. It's no, I'm a, I'm a grateful

  285. believer in Jesus Christ. My identity is not my alcohol,

  286. my identity is is in Jesus Christ.

  287. But I struggle with these things and I'm celebrating the recovery

  288. that God has given me in these things.

  289. So it's a bit different, but that introduction that we give

  290. it does a couple of things. One is it wakes us up out of our

  291. denial. You know, every time someone

  292. comes to the platform or introduces themselves, you get,

  293. I'm a grateful follower of Jesus Christ.

  294. And these are the areas that I'm celebrating recovery in.

  295. It it it, it turns the tables and it reminds us all to get out

  296. of that place of denying. Like this is not about trying to

  297. be proud or putting on a good show.

  298. This is who I am. And it also, this is for

  299. ourselves, but it's also for each other and saying, you know,

  300. we're in this thing together, we're in this thing together.

  301. And so let's let's journey and, and, and through these struggles

  302. together. So pride is the first thing

  303. that's gotta go. Second is fear.

  304. And So what will people think of me if they really knew this

  305. stuff, right? Or shame, just that that idea of

  306. of, you know, I, I feel naked if I was to share this stuff with

  307. somebody else. And this is where Paul's words

  308. in First Timothy are so powerful.

  309. I am the worst of sinners. He was not ashamed to be able to

  310. say that. He knew that.

  311. And as a result of that, he got abuse.

  312. He got criticism. He, you know, he, he encountered

  313. so much and it's like, OK, lay it on me cause I probably

  314. deserve that and more. I remember I actually, I

  315. probably mentioned a number of times Charles Spurgeon when he

  316. was told criticisms about himself by other people, hey,

  317. people are saying this and this and this about you.

  318. And he's known for saying, essentially, you know, they

  319. don't even know the half of it. You know, if they really knew

  320. how I was, you know, you know, they think far worse of me than

  321. they do, right? That's the approach.

  322. That's the approach. And when we get to that place of

  323. knowing, you know what, that there's, there's nothing that

  324. someone can find out about me. There's already been forgiven by

  325. my God and that the grace of Jesus Christ is coming.

  326. There's nothing that can discount me.

  327. That's a beautiful place to be in.

  328. I do not have to fear anymore. I have to fear shame anymore.

  329. I can be moving forward. Last thing I'll just point out,

  330. and that is what I call sterile theology, still theology, this

  331. idea that I believe that God is just too wholly to get his hands

  332. dirty into in the the everyday life of sinners.

  333. That is just simply not true. He is sovereign over all and

  334. when we look we can see his fingerprints and everything.

  335. You know, one of the great sayings of CR is that God never

  336. wastes hurt. In other words, no matter what

  337. kind of hurt that we have experienced in life, even

  338. through that God is going to do powerful healing work, He is

  339. always at work. So we need to kind of keep our

  340. eyes open for how is God at work here.

  341. Sometimes things happen in our life.

  342. We think God could never, God's nowhere to be found here.

  343. God, in His great mercy, His grace is close to us, and He's

  344. gonna work through every tragedy, every hurt, every hang

  345. up, every bad habit. He's gonna use all this stuff

  346. for if we'll put our trust in Him, check our sterile anthology

  347. at the door, and put our trust in Him.

  348. How is he at work? How is he at work?

  349. That's the question to be asking.

  350. How is he at work in my life? And how can I begin to share

  351. that? So here's the application.

  352. Just start, start sharing, start opening up to people about your

  353. life being real, and that can be scary at times.

  354. Start with someone whom you trust.

  355. Maybe it's a spouse, hopefully it's a spouse, but maybe it's a

  356. spouse or a good friend, maybe with your life group and to

  357. begin to share some of the fine China of your life with them.

  358. Maybe we've been hurt in the past and and that that's burned

  359. us before was just dwell on the words of the apostle Paul and

  360. the immense patience that God has for us and that his grace is

  361. sufficient. It is power is going to be made

  362. perfect in our weakness begin to open up more and more and make

  363. that a habit maybe come to Celebrate Recovery.

  364. Beautiful mutually supportive environment where this kind of

  365. thing is encouraged and supported in a confidential

  366. environment. Beautiful thing.

  367. Let's pray, Father. Thank you for the gift that

  368. you've given to each one of us in community under the grace of

  369. Jesus Christ. Thank you, Lord, that you came

  370. to save sinners, of whom I can say I'm the worst.

  371. Thank you for ministering to me and my flaws.

  372. Thank you for your immense patience for me, granting me a

  373. heart that is willing to share honestly, openly about how

  374. things really are in my life, and to trust the Lord that Your

  375. grace is sufficient to meet me in everything.

  376. Give us, give us some, give us knowledge of the testimony that

  377. we have of the saving grace of God that hasn't stopped working

  378. in our lives, that we prayed in Jesus name.

  379. Hey, man.