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Let's open our Bibles. Let's open our

Bibles

uh to uh the 11th chapter of the book of

Hebrews. Hebrews chapter 11. And uh

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we'll go a little ways in here. I don't

know how many Wednesday nights we'll

we'll be on this subject, but um but

I've had this oh probably for for the

last week now. Just off and on just kept

getting the phrase on the inside. Um

yeah, I remember um when I got my life

right with God, which was uh um November

of uh 1972

and u you know started finding my way to

walk with God and it was a long trip,

you know, and uh you know and and and

there were subjects I wanted to get hold

of. I I didn't know anything about

anything. I had a Bible um it had a

Bible with a zipper cover on the thing

and I don't think I ever opened the

zipper. I didn't know you're supposed to

read that. Didn't go didn't know you're

supposed to go to a church. If there had

been one there, I wouldn't have known to

go to it. Um, and there were a few

churches there that I look back now and

I'm really thankful I didn't find my way

there. Um but going back through and and

uh and I I know the something you know

sometimes you just know you just know

some things in your knower and another

time we'll get more on this subject. But

uh I I there was a there was an inward

knowing by the spirit of God. I don't

know where I don't know how it got

there. I don't know. Somebody somebody

somewhere must have been praying

something over me because I sure wasn't

praying it for myself. But I I had an

inward knowing about angels. There was

just something on the inside. And as

because of some things that in that

capacity, uh I had some um

uh interesting encounters with angels.

Okay? And maybe we'll get to that some

other time, but but uh there are a

couple there are a few times angels

saved my hide, and I know they did.

There's there's there's a reason I'm

alive and well. today because some

angels did their job and I it wasn't

that I expected it. I was just glad when

it happened and um had one of them I you

know I don't know what the voice of an

angel sounds like but I heard the voice

said said a something to me uh changed

the course of my future from that time

on and so you know so so that was

interesting but I you know there's one

subject there and I I don't know why it

seemed to stir so much in me but the

subject of faith okay I knew I needed it

I just I just knew I didn't have it, you

know, and I I did everything to try to

get it. I went to church and I prayed.

Everybody else did. I figured I'd do

what they were doing. None of us did

very well. And u you know, had the

subject of of faith. Didn't know what

that meant. I knew I should have had

some. I knew I didn't have any. And I I

I prayed. I I even fasted a little bit.

Didn't like the thought of fasting, but

I tried that a couple times. um went to

the church, spent time during the day,

went into the church and went in and do

did some praying now and then and just

wasn't doing it wasn't doing anything.

But the subject really

>> [snorts]

>> uh it stirred me and I prayed about it.

I said, "Lord, I don't know what all

this is. I don't know this faith

business. I don't know what it means. I

don't know how to get it. I I don't know

what it is. I don't know how to get it.

I just know I don't got it." And that

just left me in kind of a mess. So,

excuse me. So, we uh kept going that

direction, but um uh I've got I got a

phrase because it just stirred in the

last uh few days. Uh afraid just f the

phrase rolls up on the inside, the life

of faith. The life of faith. And a lot

of times we're we're looking for an

event of faith, but we look to we need

to go beyond an event of faith and go

into a life of faith. Sometimes an event

of faith says it'll get me either healed

if I'm sick, it'll get me blessed if I'm

broke. You know, if I can just get my

faith to work for one thing, I need it

beyond that. I need it for life.

>> I need it to work from morning till

night and then on the way through. I

don't need it just to fix something, you

know, just in one particular essence. I

I I need it working on a regular basis.

>> So, that kind of got me stirred. So, uh

we're we're going to start with Hebrews

the 11th chapter. You just can't do much

better than that for a beginning. Okay.

Hebrews chapter 11. We'll go to verse

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one. And um we probably won't get as far

as I want to get here, but as I always

say, this is why we have until the

rapture, best I can tell. But we go back

here, Hebrews chapter 11, and we'll go

Hebrews 11 · chapter mention

to verse one. And this, you know, of

course, there's different uh theories on

who the author of uh uh Hebrews was. Um

but I know who it was. It was God. Okay,

so we're we're good there. All

scriptures given by inspiration of God.

So, I got that part figured out. You

know, was it Paul? Was it Barnabas? Was

it I don't really know. And I honestly

don't even care. I just I just know that

God wrote it and I needed it and need

it.

>> But now he's talking here in Hebrews

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chapter 11.

And he says uh um I'm going to jump in

with the assumption that this was the

Apostle Paul because of the writing. And

if it was Barnabas, fine. We'll let him

him have credit when we get to the other

side. But he says, "Now, now faith is

now faith is." Now, we could stop right

there and spend a couple weeks. Now,

faith is now faith. Faith is now. If

it's not now, it's not faith.

>> Well, I believe God's going to do

something. Well, that's great, but faith

isn't. It's not tomorrow. It's not

yesterday. Faith's now.

>> But he says, "Now faith is the substance

of things hoped for, the evidence of

things not seen. For by it, the elders

obtain obtained a good report. Through

faith we understand that the worlds the

worlds were framed by the word of God.

So that the things which are seen were

not made of things which do appear. You

know everything we see started from

something we don't see. Everything

started out. That's why the world has

such a hard time getting this all

figured out because this all came from

something that you don't see. God said

let there be light and it all started

there. But anyway, he goes on and says,

"By faith, Abel offered unto God a more

excellent sacrifice than Cain. By faith

he obtained witness that he was

righteous. God testifying of his gifts.

And by it he uh being dead yet speaketh.

Now verse five. By faith Enoch was

translated that he should not see death.

And he was not found because God had

translated him. For before his

translation he had this testimony that

he pleased God. You know that's a good

way to finish up whether you whether you

take your body and go or whether you

leave that behind. If you can finish out

with the testimony you please God.

That's a great start. That's the best

you can get. So anyway, for he had this

testimony that he pleased God. Now verse

six, it says, "But without faith," this

part we're looking for to start with,

"But without faith, it's impossible to

please him." Without faith, it's

impossible. Doesn't say it's difficult,

said it's impossible. Without faith,

it's impossible to please him. For he

that cometh unto God must believe he is,

and that he's a reward of them that

diligently seek him. And then of course

we could go on and on from there. But we

we want to start out here that this must

be vitally important because there there

aren't many things in the scriptures

that say you can't please without you

can't please God without this.

>> Okay? Without without faith it's

impossible to please him. Well now again

we could go a lot of different

directions with that and we'll all be

good. But that's the beginning point.

This and if you stop and think about it

then it must not be difficult to get

faith because the only way you can

please him is to have faith. And if if

you can't please him without faith, then

it must be pretty easy to get it.

>> That's right.

>> Okay. So, anyway, so going back through

here, let's back up just a chapter over

to the 10th chapter. And uh we we'll

we'll kind of plug plug in from there,

chapter uh 10. And uh the author says

here in verse 32, "But call to

remembrance the former days in which

after you were illuminated, you endured

a great fight of afflictions." Now,

there's a lot of things we could say

there, but I don't know about you. I

know I know when I first started walking

with God, first start getting some

answers to some things, man, I'd get a

hold of a truth in the scripture. I

think, "Oh, this just wonderful." You

know, I get hold of something about

healing. I'd think I'll never be sick a

day. I'll I'll never be sick another day

in my life. which was great until the

next morning. [laughter]

>> I'll never be broke again. And then the

next day, you know, so sometimes what

happens, he said, you you endure a great

fight of afflictions. Sometimes just

getting the uh um getting the truth in

there. Uh you know, we know persecution

and affliction come for the the word the

word's sake. We know that in Mark's

gospel in the second chapter. But he

goes here and he says um

he says uh partly while verse 33 partly

while you were made a gazing stock both

by reproaches and afflictions and partly

while I became companions of them that

were so used for you had compassion to

me in my bonds and took joyfully the

spoiling of your goods. How many of us

have done that? Took joyfully the

spoiling of your goods knowing in

yourselves.

Now, King James says, "Knowing in

yourselves that you have in heaven a

better and an enduring substance." One

translation says, "Knowing that you have

in you, you took joyfully the spoiling

of your goods, knowing because you have

something in you, a better and an

enduring substance."

>> You got something on the inside of you.

>> Okay. Now, and he says, "You have a

better and an enduring substance." Well,

what substance do we have? Well, if you

look at Hebrews chapter 1, now faith is

Hebrews 1 · chapter mention

the substance. He says, "You took

joyfully the spoiling of your goods

because you know you got something in

you." You know how you got it the first

time, you know how you can get it the

second time. [snorts] You know how you

got healing the first time, you know how

to get it the second time.

>> You know how to get your need your needs

met and your bills paid the first time.

You know how to get it the second time.

>> Amen.

>> Okay. Now, he goes in here and he says

um

he says uh verse 35, cast not away

therefore your confidence which hath

great recompense of reward. Verse 36,

for you have need of patience. Don't you

just love finding that you need have

need of patience that after you've done

the will of God, you might receive the

promise. Will of God's always to step

into the life of faith. Now verse 37,

for yet a little while and he that shall

come will come and will not tarry. Now

verse 38, now the just shall live by

that's part I want to get to. Now the

just shall live by faith and if any man

draws back, my soul shall have no

pleasure in him. The didn't say the just

shall do a faith thing, have a faith

project. the the the the just will use

their faith and get their bodies healed.

Although that's a part of it. But when

[snorts] he goes in here, he says, "Now

the now now he that's coming that will

he will come. He will not tear. He will

come." He says, "But for now,

>> now the just shall live by faith."

>> That's our lifestyle. It's not just what

we do. It's what we are. The just shall

live by faith. Okay?

>> Amen.

And

so, um, backing up from here now, the

just shall live by faith. That's our

lifestyle. That's what we do. We we walk

the faith walk. We live the faith life.

And if we just figure out how to get

that working, we'll be in good shape.

>> Okay. So, what we want to do is want to

take a look at this and find out how

does this work? It must be pretty simple

or God wouldn't have told us we all have

to do it.

>> We need to do it to please God. But with

that being the case, uh going back

through, let's go back to um um

2 Corinthians chapter 4.

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2 Corinthians chapter 4

2 Corinthians 4 · chapter mention

and uh verse 13. Now Paul's writing back

in here 2 Corinthians chapter 4:13. He

makes a statement in here. He says now

>> he says here 13th uh verse we we having

the same spirit of faith. I remember

seeing that years ago and I thought when

the apostle Paul writes and he says we

having the same spirit of faith. He

didn't say I got a I got a good spirit

of faith. I got it. It took me a lot of

years to get it. You know stick with it.

You may you may be all right. You're on

your own. Have a good time. No. He said

we we what we have. He's telling me, I

got something. Whether I know it or not,

we having the same spirit of faith.

According as it is written, I believed

and therefore have I spoken, we also

believe and therefore speak. He gave us

uh the the foundations of how faith

really works. The two basic principles

that faith's going to work on. He said,

"We having the same spirit of faith,

according as it is written, I believed

and therefore have I spoken. We also

believe and therefore speak." Faith

works with two basic pre. Now there are

a lot of other things that work in

there. You know faith is acting on the

word. Um we know from reading the

scriptures over in James you know that

faith without corresponding actions is

dead being alone and so on. But if we go

back through there faith operates

basically by two principles two laws in

there. It works by believing in the

heart same with the mouth. Now Paul

writing here to the Corinthians he says

we having the same spirit of faith

according as it is written I believed

and therefore have I spoken. We also

believe and therefore speak.

>> And so if we can get these two working

in our lives, believing and saying, do

get those two things working, we're

gonna be in good shape.

>> All right.

>> It's all right. Okay. All right. Let's

just put a little bit of a lid on this

here. We're okay. Thank you.

>> I work alone. So, so anyway, so

uh coming back through here, he says, um

we having the same spirit of faith

according as it is written, I believed

and therefore have I spoken. We also

believe and therefore speak. Now, it's a

life of faith. We learn how to get faith

working in our lives. But

[clears throat] to go back through here,

if we go to um let's go back to Romans

chapter I'm sorry, let's go to Mark

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chapter 11. good place if we're going to

get on the subject of faith. Markap 11.

And he says here starting at verse uh

20. Markap 11 verse 20

and

this of course where Jesus spoke to the

fig tree and cursed it commanded to

wither and die said no man eat fruit of

the hereafter forever.

In the ver verse 20, in the morning as

they passed by, they saw the fig tree

dried up from the roots. And Peter uh

calling to remembrance said unto him,

"Master, behold the fig tree that thou

cursed is withered away." Verse 22,

Jesus answering said unto them, have

faith in God, or have the faith of God,

or have the God kind of faith. Okay.

Okay. Now verse 23. For verily I say

unto you that whosoever shall

say unto this mountain, be thou removed,

be thou cast into the sea, shall not

doubt in his heart, but shall believe

those things which he say shall come to

pass. He's going to have what he saith.

>> Amen.

>> So if you look at that verse, he's got

two subjects in here. He's got if you

believe in your heart that what you say

will come to pass, you'll have what you

say. Believing and saying. You get to

verse 24. Therefore I say unto you what

things soever you desire. When you pray,

believe you receive them and ye shall

have them. Believing and saying.

believing and saying. And if we can get

these two subjects working in our lives

in the believing and the saying part,

then faith's going to work. Those are

the two major concepts right there. Uh

and so

that being the case, um we'll get into

verse uh

back up over to Romans chapter 10.

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Romans chapter 10.

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>> [snorts]

>> and we'll go to verse six.

[snorts]

We see the same thing here. Okay, so

we've got over in Mark chapter 11, faith

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works by what? Believing and saying.

Believing in the heart, saying with the

mouth. It's not that difficult thing. If

faith was that difficult, none of us

would be able to do it.

God made it so simple for us. He made it

so simple the kids get it and they teach

us. But he said, "Whosoever shall say

unto this mountain." Markap 11 verse 23.

Verse 24. Therefore I say unto you, what

things soever you desire when you pray,

believe you receive them, you shall have

them. Everything comes back to believing

in the heart, saying with the mouth,

believing in the heart say. How'd you

get saved to begin with? Romans chapter

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10 verses, let's start with verse six.

All right. We see uh Romans chapter 10

Romans 10:6

verse 6. He says, "But the righteousness

which is of faith speaketh on this

faith." Did you notice? You can just

stop right there for a while. The

righteousness which is of faith

speaketh. If it's not speaking, it's not

faith.

>> I'll say that again. If it's not

speaking, it's not faith.

>> People say, "Well, I you know, I I you

know, I've had people say, "Well, I know

so and so was, you know, I know they I

know they used their faith and it didn't

work for them." No such thing.

>> Well, I know so and so used their faith.

I watched them and it didn't work. They

used their faith and and they didn't

they they went on over to heaven. Well,

it's great they went to heaven. But, you

know, the bottom line is you I've had a

lot of people say, "Well, you know, I I

know I I heard them. I I watched them.

They're a faith person. I know they

were. But what did they say?" Well, I

don't know what they said. I just know

they were believing God. Well, it's not

just what you believe, it's what you

say.

>> Is that what he said? All right.

>> So he says here,

he says, "But the righteousness which is

of faith speaketh on this wise, say not

in thine heart, who shall ascend into

heaven, that is to bring Christ down

from above, or who shall descend into

the deep, that is to bring Christ uh up

from again from the dead?" Verse uh 8,

"But what saith it?" What does faith

really say? It says, "But what saith it?

The word is nigh thee,

>> even in thy

>> mouth and in thy heart. That is the word

of faith which we preach. That if thou

shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord

Jesus and shall Do you ever stop and

think about that? I don't know about

you. I thought to get saved, I thought

you had to confess all your sins.

Nobody's got that much time. [laughter]

I mean, think about it. If you got to

confess all your sins to get saved,

think of what if you missed one.

>> What if you left it out? He never said

you get saved because you confess all

your sins. He said you got saved because

you confessed Jesus as Lord of your

life.

>> For with the heart man believed. Verse

got it right here. Romans chapter 10

verse 89 and 10. Verse 8. He says um he

says, "But what saith it? The word is

nigh thee even in thy mouth and in thy

heart that is the word of faith which we

preach." Okay. Then if thou shalt

confess with thy mouth the lordship of

Jesus. Getting saved is by confessing

Jesus as Lord, not confessing how many

sins we've committed. Okay.

that if thou shalt confess with thy

mouth the lordship of Jesus and shall

believe in thine heart that God hath

raised him from the dead, thou shalt be

saved. For with the heart man believeth,

now here's what we're looking for. With

the heart man believeth unto

righteousness, and with the mouth

confessions made unto salvation or you

could say one translation, I found a

book, I've talked about this before. I

found a book in my grandmother's

library. It was from late 1800s and it's

called White Robes. And uh she said,

"You can have these books if you want

them." I took a couple of them home and

I got this book called White Robes and

one of the chapters says with with the

mouth confessions made unto I thought I

thought that was a new doctrine we got

in the 70s

but I read through that and what it says

in there with the mouth with the mouth

confession is made unto the author of

this book I don't even never heard of

the guy before since I've still got the

book somewhere but he said uh in this

book he said really what that should say

with the heart man believes under the

reality of the word.

>> See, when you when you start believing

the word of God, it becomes a reality.

>> But you know, I don't know about you, I

I had a lot of time when the word became

reality, but it just never came to

manifestation.

It was real to me when I when I got hold

of uh and you know, goodness. Uh at the

time when I just started walking with

God, I was I had left finally left

college, went back to my hometown, went

into real estate, and I'm going to try

to make some money, and things weren't

working very well, and I wasn't selling

anything, and I wasn't listing anything.

Things just weren't working at all. And

I did everything I could. I just

couldn't I couldn't get that faith stuff

to work for me. Okay? I believed. I I I

prayed. I fasted. I did everything, but

I just couldn't get it working for me.

But if you go back through here, he

says, "With the heart, man believes to

the reality of the word." Well, I

finally saw over in Philippians chapter

4:1 19 where it says, "And my God shall

supply all your need according to his

riches and glory by Christ Jesus." Well,

that's great. Okay, he said he'd do it.

I just got to figure out how to get him

to do it. Okay. But he said there with

the heart man, he says in Philippians

Philippians 4:19

4:19, "My God shall supply all your need

according to his riches and glory by

Christ Jesus." All right. Okay. So

that's great, but it's not working. Now,

this guy says in this old book was

written in the 1800s. He said, "With a

heart, man believes to the reality of

the word, but with the mouth confessions

made to the manifestation of the word."

And so what he's saying is you can

believe God, you start believing what

God says, it becomes real. when you

start saying it, it becomes a

manifestation. A lot of times things

aren't working because we're just not

getting, we haven't got our words lined

up with our believing.

>> Okay. So, now that being the case, we

look over here and he says uh

um back up to uh

let's go back over to Mark chapter 11.

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And we see the same thing again.

So he's he's we're looking at uh

Markap 11. We look at Romans chapter 10

Romans 10:8

verse 8 verse 9 verse 10. Every time we

find faith in here we find two things

working together. Believing in the heart

saying with the mouth. You can get one

of those working but it takes both. You

know, if one if you have a door on your

house and one of the hinges works, but

the other one doesn't, the door's not

going to work.

>> Same thing with a faith walk. You can

have one of these working and it's

great, but if you don't get both of them

working, the door is not going to swing

right. And with the walk of faith, the

life of faith, this is what we need to

have working on a regular basis in our

lives. It's not just that we believe God

when things go wrong. It's when we're

believing God and saying, we got our

believing and our saying going on a

regular basis.

We're believing what God says. Uh, in

fact, let's just take a look at that for

a few minutes. Believe in God. You know,

just people think, well, that's just,

oh, I've tried to believe God. Things

just aren't working right. I've tried to

believe God, so and so tried to believe

God. I can think of a couple cases where

folks said to me, well, I know so and

so, they believe God. It didn't work.

Well, it just doesn't work that way. It

isn't you believe God and God didn't

come through.

>> E, if it's just not coming through, then

we somehow didn't make connection

somewhere. But when he says in here, it

works by believing in the heart, same

with the mouth, believing. Believing

believing. Now, now I don't know about

you, I spent a lot of time getting to

where I I tried to believe. I flipped

every lever, flipped every switch, I did

everything. I prayed, believed, I

declared, I said, I did everything. I

couldn't get my believing working.

Finally, somebody had mercy on me and

showed me Romans 10:17. So then, faith

Romans 10:17

cometh by hearing and hearing by the

word of God. Well, somebody showed that

to me and I thought,"Well, that made

that real simple." So, I quit begging,

pleading, crying, balling, squalling,

tried. I quit all that. And I just went

over and got into my Bible. And I got

more faith working in me in about 15

minutes than I'd had in about 15 months.

Faith comes by hearing, hearing by the

word of God. It's the only way to get it

working in there. Faith cometh by

hearing. Hearing by the word of God. So,

that's the the believing. That's the

beginning point of it all. It comes by

hearing. There's no shortcut to that.

Well, I'm going to pray and uh I've had

people I've been in services over the

years teaching on faith on how it comes.

Faith comes one way. It doesn't come by

begging. It doesn't come by pleading.

Comes one way. And you can always count

on somebody coming up afterwards and

say, "Would you pray for me?" Well, why?

What do you need? Would you pray that

I'd have faith?

Well, there's a lot of things I want to

pray, and that wasn't one of them. But

anyway, anyway,

um to to swing back around here,

what we've got is is um

decide which direction to go here. Yeah,

faith come it it only comes one way. It

comes by hearing. It only comes by

hearing. And whatever it is, whatever we

hear, whatever we hear, that's what we

have faith for. Like I said, I was

having trouble with my needs getting

met, my bills getting paid. I did

everything I knew to do. I wasn't making

any progress with that. I started

hearing the word on the subject of

Philippians 4:19, "My God shall supply

Philippians 4:19

all your need according to his riches

and glory by Christ Jesus." I started

working on that and all of a sudden it

got on the inside of me.

>> Well, that was working real good until I

got down the road about six months and

got hit with a some kind of a a physical

a cold, something like that. And uh now

I wasn't getting any I wasn't making any

progress at all. And I said, 'Lord, I

don't get this. I know my faith works.

I've watched you work things. I've

watched you meet my needs. I've watched

you pay my bills. I've watched you work

things in the real estate I was in at

the time. I've watched you bring uh

sales in. I've watched you do all that.

Now I get over into healing and it's not

working at all. You know, I know I know

I can believe God for you to meet my

needs and it'll come in. I can believe I

can believe you to me heal my body and I

can either get a result from you and

it'll take a you know two weeks or I can

just let it go and it'll go away in 14

days by itself.

And I said, "Lord, this is not working.

Why is this not working? Why does it

work? Why does it work to get my needs

met and my bills paid, but why is it not

working to get my body healed?" And the

Holy Ghost just quickened on the inside

of me. How did you get to where you

could believe me to get your needs met?

Well, I I fed on your word. He said,

'What have you done about healing?

Nothing.

Why don't you do with healing like you

did with prosperity and blessing and see

what happens there? I said, 'Well, dear

Lord, I never thought about that. That's

a great idea. So, I went in, got into my

Bible, began feeding on the word of God

on I I got Christ the Healer by FF

Bosworth. Everybody ought to have one of

those in your iPad, your phone, your

carry one with you. I've got one sitting

on my desk. I got a couple in my my uh

uh bookshelves behind me. I've worn more

copies of that out because once I found

out if you get that working on the

inside of you, it's going to work.

>> Amen.

>> And I got that working on the inside of

me. And all of a sudden, it got as easy

to get healed as it did to get blessed.

>> It got as heal as easy to get healed as

as it was to get my needs met and my

bills paid. But I had to do something

about that. I had to get back in there

and my God supplies all my need

according to his riches and glory by

Christ Jesus. But that didn't work for

me until I got that part settled about

hearing. Faith cometh by hearing and

hearing by the word of God. Got that

working on the inside of me.

>> Okay. And so the the the foundation of

the whole thing is believing in the

heart, saying with the mouth. But but

then I want the part I want to get to

here is um Smith Wigglesworth made the

statement. He said, "You got to saith

it.

And uh I I think going back through

there, that's probably where we've made

the most mistake. Look back over again.

And we we turned there earlier, but Mark

Mark 11 · chapter mention

chapter 11. Mark chapter 11.

Mark 11 · chapter mention

Let me back up a step here. Faith comes

by hearing, but it's still a decision.

>> It's still a decision. You can hear it

and hear it and hear it and hear it and

hear it and until you decide that's the

truth, it's not going to do an awful lot

of good for you. You go back through the

27th chapter of the book of Acts, uh the

Apostle Paul, he'd made a appeal to go

to Caesar. could have gotten turned

loose, but he knew he had to be he had

to stand before kings, uh, Jews,

Gentiles, and kings. He knew he had to

stand before kings. And so he appealed

to Caesar. So they put him on a boat.

And he said, remember there he said 27th

chapter of the book of Acts, he said,

"Now sers, I perceive this voyage to be

with much uh much hurt and danger."

Well, that's not the trip you want to

take. He said, "I I perceive this this

voyage to be with much hurt and danger."

But, you know, the the captain of the

ship just figured he just didn't want to

go on for the boat ride. And so, they

headed out there and of course they they

got out there and they got out they got

into a storm. And uh just because you're

in the with the will of God doesn't mean

you're not going to run into some

storms.

>> I'll say that again. Just because you're

in the will of God doesn't mean you're

not going to run into some storms.

Things come along. And so, he u

got in the middle of this storm and uh

they were in that for two weeks. Do you

know that's a long storm?

>> We've been in storms on lakes that

lasted for two hours.

Brother Larry,

Larry and Angela, we were we were in a

boat ride on Lake Euphala

>> and there's something, man, there was a

there was a there was a wall cloud

coming our way. So, we rebuked it and it

went the other way for a few minutes,

then turned around, came back at us, and

we were going fast, but it was going

faster. And we took a boat ride. And I

won't even go into any detail on that,

but uh anyway uh we live to tell. But uh

you know, he just run into things like

he just run into stuff like that. Well,

Paul had done that. He knew he's he'd

appealed to Caesar. He knew it was

right. He knew you go back in the

scriptures and you see that Paul knew

the Holy Ghost had told him, you know,

he he's going to have to stand before

Caesar. That's part of his calling is to

stand before Jews, Gentiles, and kings.

And he hadn't been before the kings

before. So, he's got this call in his

life. He's on his way there to go appeal

to Caesar. He's on his way to go into to

uh the nation to to stand before the

king. This is all set. He's in this and

they get in this this uh storm. And

while they're in the storm, uh it gets

worse and worse and worse. Before long,

they're throwing all the they're

throwing all the food overboard. And

then they're throwing all the tackle

overboard. And next thing's going to be

throwing all the prisoners overboard.

And that's okay until Paul realizes he's

one of the prisoners. And so everybody's

concerned about this. The storm's not

getting any better. I don't know about

you, if you've ever been in a storm on

the water, it's not a lot of fun. And

you think about doing that for a couple

weeks and he's been he's been out there

like that. Food's gone, people are gone,

everything's gone. And uh if you notice,

um it says 27th chapter, the Apostle

Paul stood up there and he said, "Sers,

don't you just love it when there's a

there's one of those guys that shows up

and says, "I told you so."

He said, "Sir, you should have listened

to me."

>> Don't you just love being the one that

can do that? You should have listened to

me.

>> And he says, "But but he said, I just

want you to know everything's going to

be okay for an angel of God

uh whom I serve stood by me this night

and said there uh that the everything

will be okay. Nobody will be harmed. The

boat will go down, but we're all going

to be saved. Everybody's going to be

safe." He said, "Wherefore, sir, be of

good cheer. For I believe God, for I

believe God that it shall be even as as

it was told me. They're in the boat. The

boat's going to sink. They've thrown

everything overboard. They're going to

throw the prisoners overboard. This

thing is not a good deal. And this guy

stands out here and he said, "Just want

you to know I believe God."

Believe in God. It's it's it's in the

middle. It's it's believe in God when

you don't have anything other to stand

on other than your faith in God's word.

>> That's just it. So, so he um he said,

"So, so he said, uh, be of good cheer."

Always a good cheer guy there. Be of

good cheer for I believe God. I believe

for why? Because I believe God. He'd

made a choice. He'd heard it. An angel

came and appeared to him that night. He

could have said, "I don't believe a word

of that, man. This thing's going under."

But he said, "Wherefore, sir, be of good

cheer, for I believe God that it shall

be, even as it was told me." And so, he

he got his faith locked on that. The

ship didn't go under, but they all were

they swam to shore, got onto shore, got

the the uh uh the head tri of the tribe

there, got him healed, and one

translation said they got everybody on

the island healed.

>> So, in the middle of all that, he ended

up with a healing revival. So, it's a

good thing. But now, now you uh you look

back there and so we got the same thing.

Faith comes by hearing, but it's still

going to be a decision of what what am I

going to believe? What am I going to

believe? Like I said, when I was trying

to figure out what to do with my life

and trying to figure out what to do

about my finances, I didn't have any

money. I wasn't uh things in the real

estate weren't selling and all that. But

when I got hold of Philippians 4:19, "My

Philippians 4:19

God shall supply all your need according

to his riches and glory by Christ

Jesus." When I got hold of that, it took

me about two weeks for that to settle on

the inside. But when it did, all of a

sudden, everything just changed. I made

a decision to believe it.

>> But see, that's just the way it works.

It's like, well, I I I know the Bible

said, you know, that uh by whose stripes

I was healed, but I know I still got

pain. Well, it doesn't matter what you

got. It's what do you believe?

>> Okay. Well, I know my God supplies all

my need, but I haven't seen any money to

pay the bills. Well, it's not what it

looks like. It's what have you decided

to believe? Everything starts out with

what have we decided to believe. It's

believing and saying. Believing and

saying. Now, back in over here, we'll

just swing back around and Mark 11:23.

Mark 11:23

Jesus said, he said, "Have the faith of

God." They had God kind of faith. For

verily I say unto you that whosoever

shall say, whosoever shall say,

whosoever shall say, this works for

anybody.

>> The same whosoever for salvation will

work for anything else. Whosoever shall

say. He's going to tell us how the life

of faith works. All right? Whosoever

shall say unto this mountain, Be thou

removed, and be thou cast into the sea,

and shall not doubt in his heart, but

shall believe those things which he

saith shall come to pass, he shall have,

he shall have whatsoever he saith. If

there is a Achilles heel in our faith

walk, if there's something that's not

working right, if we can look at Markap

11 23, it doesn't get any clearer than

that. Jesus said it, it's written in

red. If you have a red letter edition,

Jesus made the statement here. He said,

"Whosoever shall say unto this mountain,

be thou removed, and be thou cast into

the sea, shall not doubt in his heart,

but shall believe those things which he

saith shall come to pass, he shall have

whatsoever he saith." And I I heard

actually, Brother Hagen said, a lot of

years ago, he said, you know,

he said, I saw it reading that one day.

He said, "I saw in there that when God

gives us this word," when Jesus was

teaching this, he talked about believing

one time, and he talked about saying

three times.

>> "Whosoever shall say unto this mountain,

be thou removed, and be thou cast into

the sea, and shall not doubt in his

heart, but shall believe shall believe

those things which he saith shall come

to pass." He didn't say, "You'll have

what you believe." Well, I know believe

in God. Well, that's fine, but what he

been saying? I know. I was believing

God. Go. Well, fine, but what have you

been saying?

>> Our words either make us or break us.

>> You know, I've talked about that before.

There was a a fellow I knew, didn't know

him well, but he actually was right here

in Tulsa, worked in a ministry. He was

39 years old and uh got real sick. Got

real sick. Word got out. He And

everybody went to pray for him.

Everybody. Everybody. And their twin

brother. I mean, everybody went to pray

for this guy. And uh I didn't get asked

to go, which was fine, but a lot of

people did go to pray for him. And he

kept getting worse and worse and worse

and worse and worse and and um finally

went in he he basically was unconscious.

Went into a coma and nobody could get

this guy healed. He he'd worked in

around the ministry. He worked around

the world. He'd been around the word of

faith. He'd been around divine healing.

He'd seen people getting healed. He'd wa

he'd watched people get healed in their

bodies. He he'd he'd seen people believe

God. He'd done everything right, but

when it got to where he needed healing

in his body, it's not working. Everybody

prayed for him. Well, before long, he's

comeomaosse. Now, you can't even help

the guy because you can't talk to him.

You can't can't can't get something

corrected if you knew what to correct.

And, you know, of course, everybody's

praying and every people fasting,

praying, people are doing prayer vigils,

people doing everything. And uh finally

got word that he he'd gone on. He just

checked out and went to heaven. 39 years

old, went to heaven. Wife, family,

checked out, went to heaven. And of

course, then every that just bothers

everybody. You know, I don't know about

you, that, you know, does it bother you

when somebody you're doing all you know

to do to get somebody well and you just

can't seem to get them well. It bothers

you, you know. Could I have done more?

Well, you couldn't do more than what

Jesus did, you know, but could I have

done more? Well, I don't know what more

I could have done. Everybody's trying to

figure out what could what could we have

done more? What what is it? Well, you

know, is there not a cause? For this

cause, many are weak and sickly among

you and many sleep. Sometimes there's

something in there. And if we if

Deuteronomy 29:29 says, um,

Deuteronomy 29:29

uh, the secret thing belongs to the

Lord.

>> And that which is revealed belongs to us

to our to our children forever.

Sometimes it's just none of our

business. I've had God deal with me, not

a lot of times, but I've had God deal

with me when I'm praying for a situation

for somebody that needs a miracle or

whatever. And I've had the Holy Ghost

basically, you know, he he's kind, you

understand? But I've I've had the spirit

of God say, "Leave it alone. It's none

of your business."

>> That's right.

>> I've had him say, "Leave it alone. Leave

it alone. There's nothing you can do

about it." I go, "Well, I could say,

"Well, Lord, what Well, how come you're

not going to answer me? He's already

given me my answer. Leave it alone.

I can swing back around every angle I

can think of. I'm not going to make any

progress because I just don't know. I

can think of two, three cases right now

where God just dealt with me. Said just

don't go there. Just don't go there.

It's not It's between them and me, not

between you and me. Just leave it alone.

Well, doesn't it help to to pray for

people? Of course it helps to pray for

people unless the Holy Ghost tells you

don't bother with it because you're not

going to make any progress. Well, why

wouldn't you make progress? Well, I

don't know. secret thing belongs to the

Lord. Sometimes sometimes you can't make

any progress and sometimes it's none of

your business why you can't make any

progress.

>> I don't I'm not even going to ask for a

show of hands. But how many of us have

been in those places and go I just could

I just couldn't get anywhere. So anyway,

here's this case. I can think of

actually three of those right now where

you just couldn't make any progress on

it. Couldn't get anywhere with that. Now

the thing is it doesn't change the will

of God. I'm taking a little side trip.

Well, we'll finish with this and pick up

on another place later on. Sometimes,

you know, it doesn't change the will of

God. Well, maybe God doesn't want to

heal him. Well, if God didn't want to

heal him, he shouldn't have done it.

>> Bible said, "By whose stripes you were

healed, not can be, should be, would be,

might be. By whose stripes you were, if

he were, then God didn't change his

mind."

>> Okay, that was pretty easy one. Well,

but why did it not work? I don't know.

Well, why doesn't he tell you? Because

it's none your business. No, he didn't

quite put it that way, but it was about

the same. And it's like, um,

couldn't figure out what that was. Um,

had that happen. And and I just left it

alone because I didn't know him that

well. But, you know, found out later on

that he um he his actually at the

memorial service, his brother showed up

there and was talking to the, you know,

the minister that was officiating said,

you know, it was the strangest thing.

Said, when we were kids, we were out on

a farm. when we were kids said we'd just

be horsing around out there be we'd be

out you know in the barn and you know

working and bailing hay and do all this

stuff and said you know my brother was

just he's a few years older said you

know all of a sudden see it's our words

it's our words faith operates by

believing and saying and if we don't get

our saying right then the believing can

get kind of stumped

>> he said you know we'd be kind of horsing

around he said you know my brother he

said every now and then he'd stop get

real serious and he he said you know

I'll never live to be 40 and he said

laugh, say, "Oh, you know you will." And

he said, "But you know, over the years,

he'd do every now and then he'd say, you

know, I'll never live to be I'll never

live to be 40. I'll never live to be

40." He said, 39 years old, he said, got

sick and we could not get him out of

that. Well, it wasn't if we couldn't get

him out of that. He's going to have to

get him out of that.

>> He's going to have to get himself out of

that. And if he's gone into a comeal

state and you can't talk to him about,

doc, you got to get yourself out of

this. You got to you got to get your

word straightened out while you're still

alive and and can do something. Maybe

you can get some things changed in

there.

>> I know another uh minister same thing,

you know, got um healthy, great

ministry, God doing amazing things in

his ministry. He had really surged in

the last year or two before this

happened. All of a sudden, he's he's not

doing good. All of a sudden, he's not

doing good at all. And u they put him

into the hospital and the doctor said,

"We don't know what's wrong. something's

wrong, but we can't figure out what it

is. They never did figure out what it

was. But he was in misery. He was

horrible shape. I mean, just in a lot of

discomfort, a lot of pain. And uh so we

just couldn't we just couldn't make any

progress. And I've I'd saw people, you

know, ministers that go pray for him,

lay hands on him, pray for him. And he'd

start getting better. He'd get a little

bit better, a little bit better, a

little bit better, and all of a sudden,

like just like that, he'd just switch

back around. And he kept getting worse

and worse and worse and worse. and and

uh uh I was out actually was with one of

his uh children. Uh went to the house to

pick him up and I went to get him and

and uh got a phone call said he's just

crossed over. He's he's gone. Said,

"Well, he can't go. He can't go. We we

had this all figured out. We made a deal

with God by Jesus stripes. He was

healed. That's already done, bought,

purchased, paid for. He can't go. He's

got to come back. We're going to go

raise him from the dead." No, he's not

going to. Okay. He was uh he was 51

years old and you very seldom see

somebody raised up, you know, past

pretty much teenage years, something

like that. Just don't see that very

often. And so anyway, you know, went to

the hospital and the whole bit. And and

I told God, I said, God, you know, I

said, "You and I know we've got a

agreement going here." I said, 'If you

don't tell me something, I'm not going

to ding-dong you and I'm not going to

bother you and I'm not just going to

stay on your case and I'm not going to

say I'll remind you all through eternity

that you I'm not going to do any of

that, you know, unless I get a uncction

to and I sure don't have an uncction. I

just couldn't make any I couldn't make

any progress. Could and I said, Lord, I

don't understand why we couldn't get

this man healed. Wonderful man, great

ministry, touching lives and all that.

Why couldn't we get him healed? Why why

could we not? And I tried to go there

and all a sudden I thought, "No, leave

it alone. Just leave it alone." I said,

"Well, okay. I'll just leave it alone."

Well, number of months later,

we were at a meeting at a church and his

wife was there and they were in kind of

a fellowship hall area in the church and

she was talking to a group of ladies.

And if you get a ladies talking around a

group of ladies, you're going to get

some information.

>> And I'm going to leave it alone at that.

But anyway,

I didn't want to I I didn't want to ease

drop, but I wanted to ease drop.

>> So, it was a fellowship thing. So, I got

a big plate of food and I thought

that'll last me a while. So, I I went

over there and I kind of elbowed back to

this group of ladies because I thought

they were just they were just a talking.

Yeah. And uh all of a sudden, I heard

this this minister's wife. She said, you

know, was the most amazing thing? She

said, you know, she said, when we were

engaged to be uh married, she said, we

we were coming right up on time to get

married. And she said, and in my my

husband to be said, are you sure you

want to marry me? She said, well, uh

yeah, you know, the wedding's coming up

in what, a week or two, something like

that. You sure you sure you want to

marry me? And she said, well, of course

I do. We got the wedding all planned,

everything. Of course, of course I want

to marry you. She said, why would you

say a thing like that? He said, "Because

no man in my family has ever lived past

the age of 50, and I probably won't

either." At 51, he went home to heaven.

Okay.

Now, somebody goes, "Well, did you

really think that had something to do

with it?" Uh, yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> I think it had a lot to do with it. I

don't know. Never had a chance to talk

with him. Wasn't my place. Okay. And but

nobody knew that. Nobody knew why this

wasn't working. You know, I can think of

an a number of case. I know I know one

fell, man. and we went in to pray with

him and uh I didn't know him. The pastor

said, you know, he's in my church. We

were doing a meeting there. He said,

"Would you come in and pray for a guy in

my church? He he's real sick and he

needs a miracle." I said, "Well, yeah,

if you want us to, we will." Went in and

and this guy, man, this guy, he started

preaching to me. I won't die, but I'll

live and declare the works of the Lord

by Jesus. He just he quoted more

scriptures than most anybody else I'd

ever heard. I looked at the pastor said,

"Well, he's going to be just fine. I

mean, I've heard him talk."

Got outside the door of the hospital.

The Holy Ghost said he'll be gone in a

week. I said, 'N no, Lord, I heard him.

I heard him. He said, 'Well, yeah, he's

he's saying it, but he doesn't believe

it.

>> See, it's not just because you say it,

it's what you say and believe. It's what

you believe and say.

>> You, you know, you can do all the saying

you want, but remember there 2

Corinthians chapter 4:13, he says, "We

having the same spirit of faith." We

having the same spirit of faith. Got the

same spirit. It it's it's not a

different spirit other than the Holy

Spirit, but it's an attitude.

>> It's an we having the same. You get

around folks and they get an attitude of

faith about them

>> or they get an attitude of unbelief

about them and you know you you you

can't one's great, the other you can't

fix. But anyway, you know, it's just it

was just man we, you know, uh got

outside. I I said, Lord, what was that

all about? Said he'll be he'll be gone

in a week. I said, well, Lord, uh but he

said he and I quoted everything the guy

said to me. He said, 'Yeah, that's what

he's saying, but that's not what he's

believing. He's tired. He's tired of

fighting and he can't say what he really

believes because his family will get

aggravated at him. He's going on home

because that's what it's not what his

family wants, but it's what he wants.

>> Well, I got word later on in a week's

time he'd gone on home. See, sometimes

things like this happen, but it all if

you if you track it, it's usually going

to come back to believing and or saying,

but usually more saying than believing.

Because if you get folks to say the

right thing long enough, it'll register

on their spirits. It'll get on the

inside. And if you get it inside and get

it out here with the heart, man believes

under righteousness with the mouth

confessions made to salvation. If we get

hold of it on the inside, it'll become

real. If we get it in the mouth, it'll

become a manifestation.

>> Amen.

>> Amen. But it all comes back to the law.

Not just faith is a law. It's called the

law of faith. But it's not just the law

of faith. It's the life of faith.

>> Yeah.

>> If we get to where we get that working

on a regular basis where we don't have

to run up against a stump somewhere and

go, "Oh, God, I got I got to come up

with something real quick. I ought to

have my something working all the time.

>> I shouldn't have to run and open the

drawer and pull out my answer and say,

"God, I got to get this working real

quickly. What I need to do is I need to

be get this work." And again, we're all

growing in this. Nobody's got all the

answers, okay? But I've watched people

in year I've watched them for almost 50

years now. I've seen people

get great results and I people I've seen

folks make great mistakes and I've just,

you know, I wanted I want to learn. I

want to stand back and learn. Not just

so I know what's going, you know,

because I told God a long time ago, if

you can show me what happened somewhere,

I don't care if it's any my business or

not, but if it's something I can use

later on to help somebody, I want to

know it. If I if I can use that to pass

on and help somebody to stay longer. And

so as a result of that, there's some

things that God's been able to

show me along the way where some folks

you just if you could just if you could

just keep them alive and conscious

enough to get them talking right

>> and it makes a world of difference.

Well, you know, why don't we just start

out ahead of time instead of saying I'm

having a issue with finances or an issue

with f uh healing or an issue with

symptoms or what? Why don't we just get

instead of just a an event of faith, why

don't we get the life of faith going?

>> Why don't we get it going like that? Why

don't we just keep talking the talk

before we need it to be really working?

Why don't we keep it Why don't we keep

it working before we need it to work?

>> Well, I'm doing real good right now.

Well, you know, why not just keep it

that way? Why not do all I know to keep

it going the way I should? It's Well,

you know, God will take care of me.

Well, that's a great idea, but that's

not what he said,

is it? Well, God will take Yeah, he said

he'd take care of you, but he he takes

care of you by you talking the talk,

walking the walk by you believing and

saying, believing in the heart, saying

with the mouth. And so, if we'll just

start out with this and just say, I plan

to make a difference. He said with long

life he'd satisfy me and show me his

salvation. I'm going to boldly declare

that with long life he'll satisfy me and

show me his salvation. The end of the

91st Psalm. I'm going to keep saying I

won't die but I'll live and declare the

works of the Lord. If I can keep saying

what I Well, what if what if I'm not

really believing it? You know, if you

get talking long enough, you'll get to

where you believe it.

>> Yes, you will.

>> If you talk the talk, you'll walk the

walk.

>> If you get it working If you get it

working in your heart, you can get it go

working out your mouth. It'll get

working out here.

>> But it all starts, it starts with the

inside. Okay? I believe. Isn't that what

he said?

>> According according as it is written. I

believed and therefore have I

>> spoken.

I believe, therefore, I'm speaking

because I'm not speaking just to try to

get to I believe it. I'm speaking

because I believe it. I believe,

therefore, have I spoken. We also

believe and therefore speak. If I can

just get it working that way. If I can

get my believing hooked up right and get

my mouth connected with my heart, put

the two together, then it will work in

my life. Are there other things? Sure,

there are other things. You know,

there's there's uh well, no use getting

into that tonight. There are other

things that can make a difference, but

why not why not go with what we know is

right,

>> the life of faith.

>> Without faith, it's impossible to please

him. For he that cometh unto God must

believe he is, and he's rewarded them

diligently speak. And I will say this,

you know, if if somebody's gone on home,

don't beat yourself up over that.

>> You don't know. If God doesn't tell you,

you don't know. And sometimes God won't

tell cuz it's not going to, you know,

sometimes you're not going to know till

you get to the other side. When you get

to the other side, you're not going to

care anyway.

>> I know cases, some folks, and I've

thought, "Dear Lord, I don't know why

they left. I don't know why they went

over. I don't know." And you know, and

it's like, "Well, you'll know when you

get to the other side." Then you think,

well, I'm going to get to the other

side. I'm not going to care because I'll

be there with them. And so, a lot of

times we we beat ourselves up trying to

think, could I have done more? Well, if

you could have done more, you would have

done more.

>> Sometimes we put all the pressure on us,

and the pressure is not on us, it's on

the word. And sometimes if folks didn't

make a contact there, there wasn't a

whole lot we can get done. And I got to

get stopped. Let's stand to our feet.

>> Father, in the name of Jesus, I thank

you so much. I thank you so much, dear

Father. Oh, Lord, there's so much in

this. There's so much there's so much

there's so much in the in the church

world if we just if we can just step on

over and get this working on the inside

of us. I thank you for it. Nobody's

nobody's reached perfection except

Jesus. And he's up there the father's

right hand praying for the rest of us.

But father, if there are things we can

learn to help not only ourselves but

help others, then our heart cries, Lord,

teach us. Teach us to follow. Teach us

to flow. Teach us the things that we

ought to know. Lord, there's places we

should go in you. Pl things we should

do, things we should see. There are

things that we ought to be able to be.

And so, we trust you to give us

utterance and give us direction and

teach us things that'll make us a

blessing to others. Thank you, Father.

There's a move coming to the church

world. There is a move of the spirit of

God. There's an outpouring of the glory.

There's an outpouring of the what we'd

call a revival world global, worldwide.

a great move, an outpouring of divine

healing.

And we all get to be in it. We all get

to be not just getting it, but passing

it on. So I pray over this house,

Father, make make every one of us a

blessing. Teach us what we need to

follow. Teach us what we need to be able

to flow. Lord, there's a cry in our

heart. Say, Lord, there's so much more I

need to know. So we thank you for it in

Jesus name, Father. Hallelujah.