Yielding to the Holy Spirit | Joey Roberts | World Outreach Church

Heat. Heat.

Good evening, WC. Why don't we stand to

our feet? Get ready to give God praise

in this place. He's so worthy. He's so

good. Amen. Come on, put your hands

together.

And there is no shadow

that has ever overcome your light. And

there is no rival

that could ever stand against your

might. You've always been with us.

Every battle you've already won, so

we've already won. Come on, help me out.

There is no weapon and there is no

weapon

>> that has ever left a mark on you

>> that has ever left a mark on you. And

there is no army

>> with the power to conquer truth

>> with the power to conquer truth. You've

always been with us.

>> Every battle,

>> every battle you've already won. So

we've already won.

>> Come on, let's sing. Show me one thing.

Hey,

>> show me one thing he can do. Show me a

mountain he can.

He's the God of the breakthrough and

anything is possible.

>> Show me one thing too hard.

>> Show me one thing that's too hard. Show

me waters he can't.

He's the God of the breakthrough and

anything is possible.

>> Oh, it's possible.

Come on. There is there is a kingom

>> that's advancing. Come on.

>> That's advancing at the speed of light.

And in your kingom,

>> every dead thing,

>> every dead thing begins to God our

redeemer.

>> God our redeemer. Come on, say, "You are

faithful." You are faithful to revive.

Oh, you will revive.

Oh, sing. Show me.

Show me one thing he can do. Show me a

mountain. He can.

He's the God of the breakthrough and

anything is possible.

>> Come on. Show me one thing.

Show me one thing that's too hot. Show

me waters it can't.

He's the God of the breakthrough and

anything is possible.

>> Oh, it's possible.

Come on, put your hands together like

this. Hey,

now all of my fear I will turn into

praise. Shake off despair as I sing out

your name. A victory dance. I will dance

out in faith. I will crush

disappointment.

Come on, sing it out with me now. All

now all of my fear. I will turn into

praise. Shake off despair as I sing out

your name. A victory dance. I will dance

out in faith. I will crush

disappointment and break every chain.

Now all of my fear I will turn into

praise. Shake off despair as I sing out

your name. My victory dance I will dance

out in pray. I will crush disappointment

and break it. No all of my fear I will

turn into praise. Shake off despair as I

sing out your name. A victory dance. I

will dance out in faith. I will crush

disappointment and break it.

>> Now all now all of my fear I will turn

into come on shake off despair as I sing

out of victory.

I will dance out in I will crush

disappointment. Now all of my fear now

all of my fear I will turn into praise.

Shake off despair as I sing a victory

dance. The victory dance. I will dance

out of bed. I will crush this. Come on.

One more time. Break out. Now all of my

fear. I will turn into praise. Shake off

despair as I sing out your name. A

victory dance. I will dance out in vain.

I will crush disappointment and break.

Show me one thing. Show me one thing you

can do.

Show me a mountain and he came.

He's the God of the breakthrough.

Anything is possible.

>> Come on. Show me one thing too hard.

>> Show me one thing that's too hot. Show

me waters he can't.

He's the God of the

>> Come on, let's do the phrase one more

time.

>> It's possible.

>> Oh, it's possible.

Oh, come on. How many believe that? Put

your hands together. Let's sing it

together one more time. Now all Now all

of my fear I will turn into praise.

Shake off despair as I sing out your

name. A victory dance. I will dance and

I will crush thisoint and praise.

>> Now all of my fear, now all of my fear,

I will turn into praise. Shake off

despair as I sing out your name. A

victory dance. I will dance out in I

will crush this appointment.

>> Come on now. All of my fear. What? Now

all of my fear I will turn into praise.

Shake off despair as I sing out your

name. A victory dance. I will dance out

in faith. I will crush disappointment.

No fear. Not all of my fear. I will turn

into praise. Shake off despair as I sing

out your name. A victory dance. I will

dance in. I will crush this appointment.

Come on together. Now all of my fear I

will turn into. Now all of my fear I

will turn into praise. Now all of my

fear I will turn into praise. Now all of

my fear, no one to fear. Now all of my

fear, I will turn into gra. Shake off

despair as I sing out your name. A

victory dance. I will dance out in

faith. I will crush disappointment and

break every chain. Hallelujah.

Hallelujah.

Come on. Where the spirit of the Lord

is, there is freedom. Chains are broken.

Yolks are destroyed. Hallelujah. There's

joy and freedom and peace and wholeness

in the presence of the Lord. Hallelujah.

Come on, let's just give him one last

shout of praise.

Hallelujah.

Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Praise God.

Praise God. Praise God. Well, I'm

stirred up already. How about you?

Praise God. Well, listen. Would you turn

around and shake hands with a person or

two and then you may be seated?

Praise God. Praise God.

Amen. Anything is possible. Amen.

Hallelujah. Well, praise God. Welcome to

uh WLC on a Wednesday night, Wednesday

evening. Praise God. Uh I'm excited.

Always bring my expectation and uh God

is so good. Amen. Always doing a new

thing. Praise God. Well, listen. I just

want to say welcome to youth. So glad

all of you guys decided to come out and

uh be with us tonight. Some of Did

anybody get a little wet at all? No. Oh,

I kind of got drenched uh as I was

heading to my car. So, my hair looks a

little wet. It's not the oil. It's not

the glory. It's just a little rain. Um

but uh praise God. We believe in it.

Amen. Um so, uh listen, welcome. If

you're a first- time guest, we want to

say welcome to World Outreach Church.

You're going to be blessed. We're so

glad you're here. Let's give it up for

any first- time guests. Praise God.

And listen, if you are that guest, would

you text the word welcome to

918-2157066?

Uh text that. And uh there's a little uh

I think little information there you can

fill out. And so what you'll get is a a

thing that you can take to the cafe uh

or there's a card in the seat back in

front of you. And we would like to bless

you with a free drink. Amen. There's

some good stuff back there. Um and so uh

just a couple of quick announcements. We

have WOC Young Adults. Come on. A a

gathering happening this Sunday at 6 PM.

I'm excited about that. We're going to

be meeting right here uh in the WOC cafe

and uh it's just a good time of

connection, worship, teaching from God's

word. Amen. And so this is these these

meetings, these times that we come

together just designed to encourage,

challenge, and equip you. Amen. How many

of you know we have to be challenged

sometimes? If you're just coasting and

you feel like you've arrived, I don't

know about that. Amen. So, it's just a

good time to get challenged. So, please

come out to that. Bring a friend. come

expected and ready to engage. Amen. It's

been so good. I'm excited about that.

And then also guys, we still have prayer

group open enrollment taking place. Uh

and that ends also on Sunday uh on the

31st. And so it's just a friendly

reminder that uh you know that we're

doing this. And so um if you would like

to join a prayer group, uh visit

wctosulsa.org/prayergroups

or stop by the connect center right out

here after service. And there are

multiple different prayer groups praying

for different things. Amen. And so uh

that's a good thing to get hooked uh

hooked up with. With that said, I am now

going to pass it over to brother Robert.

Let's go. Let's give it up for brother

Robert.

Appreciate you.

>> Amen.

How's everybody doing?

>> All right. Well, it's giving time.

>> It's giving time. You can see on the

screen there the different ways to give.

Also, there are envelopes in the seat

back in front of you if you prefer.

Amen. Uh here's a scripture I want to

share with you. 2 Corinthians chapter

8:es 1-3 says this. Moreover, brethren,

we make known to you the grace of God

bestowed on the churches of Macedonia,

that in great trial of affliction, the

abundance of their joy and their deep

poverty abounded in the riches of their

liberality.

For I bear witness that according to

their ability, yes, and beyond their

ability, they were freely willing. Well,

as I was looking at this, I seen

something I hadn't seen before. But this

word abundance here, if you go to your

Strong's concordance, open up that word

abundance, it means surplusage.

That's the word surplusage. So they're

surplus plus plus. And what is he

talking about? It's their joy. They have

an excessive joy in their giving. In

fact, the joy is so excessive in their

life, their own affliction, their own

issues, their own lack did not move

them. They were so excited about the

work of God. Come on, somebody get

excited now. They were so excited about

the work of God,

amen, that they weren't moved by any

circumstance, situation, or anything

that came along. They just got involved.

Amen. And you know, it's real good to

seek the Lord and what he would have you

do, right? That's where it needs to come

from other than the tithe that already

belongs to him. And as you give,

remember there is a joy on the inside of

us. A joy that bubbles up on the inside

of us that gives us a joy over every

circumstance and situation. Amen. So

that we can be a part of what God's

doing all over the world. Amen. Are you

ready to give tonight? Father, we thank

you so much. We praise you for this

opportunity, God, to give into the

kingdom. We give you all the thanks. be

honored, be glorified, and be magnified

by our giving. And we thank you for

every promise, every promise that's

attached to it in Jesus' name. Well,

just want to give you a quick update

that pastors Mark and Janet will be back

this Sunday. Amen.

>> Yes, we're so excited. But I'm really

honored and excited to introduce our

speaker tonight. We've got Reverend

Joseph Roberts with us. Sir, thank you.

We're so excited you're with us. We're

expecting Amen. So once worship is over,

you're free to go, sir. Do it. Thank

you.

>> Right. Whenever you guys are done

giving, you can go ahead and stand and

join us as we go back into worship.

I love you

for your mercy fails me

and all my days

I've been

moment

until I lay my

Oh, I will see

of the goodness

of God.

All my life you have been faithful.

All my life you have been so so good.

With every breath that I am able.

Oh, I will sing of the goodness

of God.

I love your voice.

You have led me through the fire.

In darkest nights,

you are close like no other.

I've known you as a father.

I've known you as a friend.

And I have lived in the goodness

of God.

>> All my life,

all my life, you have been faithful.

And all my life,

>> all my life, you have been so so good.

With every breath that I am.

Oh, I will sing of the goodness

of God. See, all my life

and all my life you have been faithful.

>> All my life you've been so good.

>> All my life you have been so so good.

>> Every breath,

>> every breath that I am able.

Oh, I will sing of the goodness

of God.

Oh, I'll sing your goodness.

Oh, how good you've been. How faithful

you've been to me.

See, your goodness,

your goodness is running after. It's

running after me.

Your goodness is running after. It's

running after me.

With my life laid down, I surrender now.

I give you everything.

Your goodness is running after. It's

running after me.

>> Your goodness,

>> your goodness is running out.

>> It's running after it's running out.

>> It's running to me.

>> Your goodness,

>> your goodness is running out. It keeps

running after me.

With my life laid down, I'm surrender

now.

>> I give you everything.

>> Your goodness

is running after. It's running after me.

>> All my life you have been faithful.

All my life you have been so so good.

With every breath that I am able.

Oh, I will sing of the goodness

of God.

>> All my life

I'll sing.

>> All my life you have been faithful.

You've been so faithful to me, Jesus.

>> All my life, you have been so so

good.

With every breath that I am able,

oh, I will sing

of the goodness

of God.

Oh, sing. Sing your goodness to me. Oh.

Oh, how good you been. We worship you.

We worship for your

it.

Oh, you're so worthy. You're worthy of

it all.

>> And far from you are all things.

And to you are all things.

You deserve the glory.

>> Sing you're worthy.

>> You're worthy of it all.

My praise and adores

is so worthy. For you are all things and

to you are all things.

>> You deserve the glory.

>> Oh, sing you're worthy.

>> You're worthy of it all.

worthy of it all.

>> You're worthy of it all.

>> Yes. For you are all things.

>> And to you are all things.

>> You deserve the glory.

You deserve the glory. And you deserve

the glory.

Oh, you deserve the glory.

>> You deserve the glory.

>> All of the glory is yours.

>> You deserve the glory.

>> For everything you've done in my

>> You deserve the glory.

>> How faithful you've been. You deserve

it.

>> And you deserve the glory.

You deserve the glory

glory.

>> And you deserve the glory.

Oh,

>> and you deserve the glory.

Let's just hear the voices. Can we lift

that up?

>> And you deserve the glory.

>> Let's sing that to him. You deserve

>> You deserve the glory.

You deserve it all.

>> And you deserve the glory.

So I exalt

thee. Come on. Last song. Let's sing it

together. And I exalt

thee.

And I exalt

thee.

>> Oh Lord.

>> Oh

Lord.

We exalt you Lord

and I

exalt

thee. We exalt you and we exalt

thee.

We be exalted and we exalt

thee,

oh Lord.

Oh

Lord.

Come on, sing. We exalt thee together.

And we exalt

thee. We exalt you, Lord. And we exalt

thee.

>> Be exalted, Lord. We exalt

thee,

oh Lord.

Oh

Lord,

we exalt you, Lord. And we exalt

him.

We exalt him tonight. We exalt

him. We exalt you, Father.

>> We exalt

thee.

>> Come on, real strong. Oh Lord, oh

Lord.

>> One more time. We exalt thee. We exalt

and we exalt

thee.

>> You are our everything, Lord. We exalt

thee.

We exalt you Jesus.

>> We exalt

thee,

>> oh Lord. Oh

Lord,

>> let's just lift up our own song to him

right now. Father, you're worthy of all

of the praise and the glory.

>> We exalt.

We exalt.

We exalt you, Jesus.

Just for you, my man. Just for you.

>> Hallelujah.

>> Praise the Lord.

>> Hallelujah.

Praise God. Amen. Wow. Powerful.

>> Powerful. Lord, we're just grateful.

>> Thankful.

Holy Spirit, thank you for your presence

here tonight.

>> It's so good. So good to to live in your

presence,

>> to get to live out of our spirits with

you,

to be hidden in the secret place with

you. We're grateful,

>> thankful that you you want to spend all

your time with us. You don't have to do

that.

Lord, we're grateful that you give us

your time.

>> You give us your your whole heart, your

whole self.

>> You've given us everything. We just we

honor you. We magnify you. Lord, I'm

grateful for this this opportunity

tonight to worship

with my family,

worship with friends and family.

Lord, just this precious moment you've

honored me with to stand in this pulpit.

Lord, I want to honor you with every

word.

>> I want to honor you.

>> Holy Spirit, what would you do if you

were in my shoes?

That's my prayer. I want to follow your

leading

in every word, in every deed, in every

action.

So I submit myself unto your leadership,

submit myself unto you once again to

lead me, to guide me.

>> Hallelujah.

>> We're thankful, grateful.

>> Amen. Amen.

>> Praise the Lord. Wow. They really poured

on here every service. Thank you guys.

It's always so good. Amen.

>> My my wife, this is my wife, Kirsten. My

name is Joey, and we're blessed to be

here. Uh we're here about half the time.

We do live here, but uh about about six

months out of the year, it seems like

we're gone. Not all at once, but uh we

just got back from seven weeks away. And

we were here Sunday, we slipped in. And

uh man, the anointing is so much

stronger up here. I need to start

sitting closer. Amen. and we were just

sitting in the seats and I noticed the

the seat tag. I took a picture of it in

case I'm never invited back. But said

reserve Brazie and I thought I've waited

all my life for this moment. But man,

the anointing I don't know if it's like

that over here, but man, it's strong

over there.

>> Praise the Lord. Well, you can be

seated. My name's Joey Roberts, and I

feel like I ought to be introducing uh

you who introduced me. uh you I didn't

get to meet you, but I sat in on a

session you did uh over at your ministry

um for Mrs. Caps and uh you were talking

about um how to how to get the most out

of your Bible reading and it really uh

ministered to me. So, I've been wanting

to tell you thank you. Amen. Praise the

Lord. Well, it's an honor to be here. Um

a little bit of my history, my my

parents are Ross and Louise Roberts. Uh

they lived here from 1976

to 7879.

I was born in 78. That's Mr. Daisy over

there. Uh just got to know him in the

last year or two and he was my dad's

neighbor. And uh so I'm blessed to be

amongst family. Uh Pastor Mark and and

Pastor Janet uh used to come to my

parents' church churches over the years

when I was just a little boy. So that

was about 40ome years ago. And uh

I I remember being here in 1996

attending all the Holy Ghost rallies

when I lived here. I was going to Rama

from 96 to98. Uh I didn't miss one. In

fact, I would miss a class at Rama to be

at those morning meetings if I had to.

And uh never forget the deposits that

the Holy Spirit in fact even that word

deposits. I'd never heard that until uh

1996, Pastor Mark teaching on the

deposits of the Holy Spirit, rivers of

the spirit. And uh those meetings so

impacted me that

even people today think I'm stuck in

time somewhere. And and sometimes you

can come off like that, like you're

stuck in a time in history. But there's

a difference between being um stuck in a

place in the spirit

with the Holy Spirit. And I say stuck.

There's no better place to be than in

the secret place.

>> Amen.

>> With the most high. You don't want to

just spend a little time there on a

Sunday or a Wednesday. That's where

we're we're supposed to live.

>> That's where we're anointed to live is

in the secret place with him. That's

where our safety is.

>> That's where our protection is.

You know, you could listen to prosperity

teaching all day, and I sometimes do,

but but true prosperity comes from the

secret place,

>> from your fellowship with the Holy

Spirit.

>> So many things I I've learned and uh not

that I know very much. Uh but still

still learning from pastors Mark and

Janet. Uh a little more recent history.

Um

uh something that I I learned years ago

and I'm still learning uh and still uh

following on to know is how to be led by

the spirit.

>> And I I learned much of that from those

Holy Ghost meetings and little actions.

I remember I used to go to those

meetings 96 97 they were at a building

across town and um it was like a slanted

floor that went down. Did anyone go to

those meetings? Darl, you went to that

back in the day and um I kind of found

my company of believers there and some

of them went to class with me at Rama

and for some reason those Holy Ghost

meetings um uh they did something to

relationships.

Something about flowing in the Holy

Ghost together does something to a

relationship.

>> It it it'll strengthen a relationship.

Um it'll also uh separate you a little

bit. uh maybe from some relationships

that you don't need to be as in

intertwined with. Um but uh I found my

company in those places of the spirit

where there were like-minded individuals

that were hungry for more than just

taking notes. And I like notes. I've got

shelves full of notes, boxes full of

notebooks. I am a notetaking machine. Uh

but but something about being in places

where the move of the spirit is not only

welcomed but it's encouraged.

>> Amen.

>> There's nothing like that.

And if that's your thing and it could

only become your thing because it does

so much in your life that you really

don't want any other thing.

People say, "What's your thing?" I like

the flow of the spirit.

I like to be in a place where it's like

every other voice is silenced but God. I

like being around people who are pulling

on that. So I remember in 96 I'd gone to

a couple of these meetings and I had

told some I don't know if you were in

the in this town back then but uh in

different circles those meetings were

kind of taboo meetings. Um, and if you

went, you were kind of marked in some

circles and and uh not that people were

mean to you, but you know, just like any

other thing happening that that God is

doing, people are bound to take notice.

But, uh, I remember probably the second

or third one, I started recognizing

different individuals from class. And

so, I'd go up to them and talk to them

and, uh, kind of get a feel for what why

were they were there. I knew why I was

there. Much of it in that day, you know,

I was 19 at that time. I really enjoyed

dancing in the Holy Ghost.

>> In fact, I I would think about it uh if

I knew that there was a Holy Ghost rally

happening uh with the Brazes in in

Tulsa. I' I'd think about it all day.

I'd be at work thinking about HOW MUCH

JOY WAS going to be in that place in

those night meetings. And the nights

were so good that I got curious what

it'd be like to be there in the morning.

So I started looking at how many sick

days or vacation days you're allowed.

And then I met a a lady that I knew in

the office and I said, "Can we work

something out? Now if I come for the,

you know, the 8 a.m. class, but I have

to leave early. Does that count against

me?" And I found out that, you know, you

could kind of

And so I started going to the morning

meetings. And then there was uh talk of

these Holy Ghost junkies,

people who, you know, uh we were the

ones that did three three classes at

Rama and then talked about everything we

learned in class at the at lunch where

we were playing foosball trying to teach

one another what what we knew. And then

we would go over to hear, brother Jim

Hockaday. How many remember Jim Haday?

We'd go over to prayer and healing

school and it just became my life.

Some of those meetings you'd meet other

people that love the move of the Holy

Spirit, love fellowshipping with God,

love the flow of the Holy Ghost, love

running and DANCING AND SH THEY LOVED

PURE FREEDOM JUST AS MUCH AS YOU DID.

And you found friendships that last a

lifetime, some of them.

It's amazing.

There's nothing like it.

There's nothing like what happens

when the spirit is moving.

>> That's where all things are possible.

>> Amen.

>> That's where all things are. And you

know what? Contrary to some belief,

whether it's popular or not, that

changes from day to day. What's popular?

Uh Holy Spirit's still moving just like

that. If anything, his desire has

forever increased

>> to flow not only through his people, to

his people, but with his people.

>> I'm here thankful for the Holy Spirit.

>> And he just I mean, what would life be

like without it? I think sometimes I

meet people even in Pentecostal circles

that that they don't know the the thrill

of even just letting it rip in other

tongues. You know what I mean? Letting

it rip.

What is he saying? I DON'T KNOW. BUT THE

BIBLE SAYS THAT HE THAT SPEAKS IN AN

UNKNOWN TONGUE SPEAKS NOT UNTO MEN BUT

UNTO GOD.

>> HALLELUJAH. YOU KNOW, THE Lord asked me

nine months ago, I was leaving a meeting

in Minnesota, another Holy Ghost church

that loves the flow, probably more than

I do, and uh we were driving cross

country, and the Lord was talking to me

about praying in the spirit. And we talk

about that a lot. Sometimes we just pray

in the spirit together, and I get things

downloads from that.

And he said, "IS IT MORE IMPORTANT to

you that you know what you're saying,

or is it more important to you that I

know what you're saying?"

>> And I come back to my faithful standard.

Well, you are God and I am not.

So, if it's more important TO YOU, WELL,

YEAH, IT SHOULD BE. IT'S MORE IMPORTANT

TO ME THAT YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING. And

I heard this. He said, 'Well, then I can

share more with you.

>> You know, IN EVERY PLACE OF OUR LIFE

THAT WE PUT THE HOLY SPIRIT FIRST,

>> there's great wonderful benefits.

>> When he gets to be first, when it's his

way, sometimes you got to make a stand

and say, "It's going to be Holy Ghost's

way or no way. Amen.

>> Is going to be his plan or or we're just

not interested.

>> I I'm convinced that the Holy Spirit

still uh uh is looking for his people

like I was in 1996,

looking for my people. You know, even

there's been seasons. That was 30 years

ago. Can you believe it? Time flies when

you're having fun. But but think about

30 years ago have come and gone and

there are still seasons where I've

always got my eye out for who are my

people?

Who are the people that love my friend,

the Holy Spirit that sticks closer in a

brother? Who loves him like I do? And if

you're looking, you'll find them.

And sometimes you'll find some that even

love him and know him more than you do.

>> Amen.

>> Have you learned everything about the

Holy Spirit that you want to learn?

>> Do you know everything right now about

his flows and his moves and his do do

you know all that you want to know or do

you think there's more? Good morning.

>> That that phrase my wife will remember.

Uh

well, in talking about learning about

how to hear from the Holy Spirit, we'll

turn to a couple of scriptures here in a

minute. This is just my opener act.

Amen.

But uh

look at Romans 8:14 for a minute. I

Romans 8:14

wasn't going to start there, but that's

that's hot on my mind.

Romans.

Well, look at verse one. That's a good

one. There is therefore now no

condemnation to them which are in Christ

who walk not after the flesh but after

the spirit

right there. I mean that's a that's a

big one. And people will say, "Well,

that you know those people over there,

they're just so wrapped up in the flesh

talking about sin or that." Well, if I

said, uh, tell me your name's Robert,

right? I might as well shake your hand

while I have the moment. Yeah.

If I said, uh, you know, Robert's a

leader in this church and and you ought

to you ought to follow Robert. If Robert

was walking this way, we're all going to

follow Robert. That doesn't get too

deep. That doesn't connotate that if I

don't follow Robert that I'm in some

gross sin, right?

You know, right here it says that that

we're to follow after the things of the

spirit.

Following after the spirit. One thing

I'm learning still IS HE WILL NOT follow

me.

>> So good.

>> I'm not qualified to lead. Which is

funny. On the flip side, did you know

there's more leadership conferences for

the body of Christ today? and I've not

found one followship conference.

I've been looking.

Wouldn't it be great to I don't think

that's a word followship, but but what

if you had a followship conference WHERE

WE'RE GOING TO LEARN HOW TO FOLLOW THE

LEADER. NOT JUST LEARN HOW TO lead

everybody because sometimes you get

dwelling, you know, faith comes by

hearing and hearing. You get dwelling on

what a great leader you are. You forget

that you got to be led.

>> There's one leader. You know, he owns

all this.

>> The earth is the Lord's and the fullness

thereof. Did you know every bornag again

Christian church belongs to the Lord

Jesus Christ?

And he allows us TO BE A PART OF IT.

I'VE been thinking of lately, YOU KNOW,

HE IS NOT TIED to do anything that I

want him to do.

One thing I I'm still learning, I'm just

sharing things off my heart that I'm

getting from Pastor Mark and by the

spirit.

I'm learning I can't lead the Holy

Spirit and make him do something I want

him to do.

>> I also can't direct his flow if I want

that. That That's why it's his flow and

not my flow. Amen.

>> Yeah.

>> And so I'm learning that IF I'M QUICK TO

FOLLOW, I think back in 96, something

happened in me. Now, I already knew

about I came from a run and dancing

church, but something happened to to me

in the spirit that actually got over

into into a lot of a lot of my soul,

even my mind, will, and emotions.

I would think about if I could get to

that meeting

where that music was going on back then.

It was it was Raene Wilson. You had

David Ellis on the piano. One of my

buddies played the drums

and uh you had different dropins all the

time. Pastor Janet would get up singing.

I remember Dr. Sevel came in for a a

weekend one time. Different ones.

But in my thinking, now I don't know

everything, but in my thinking, I

thought no matter what kind of day I've

had, if I can just get not only to the

meeting, but up close enough to the

front

that I could just yield myself,

JUST YIELD MYSELF TO WHAT IS GOING ON.

AND WHAT IS GOING ON, I FOUND OUT LATER,

WAS THE BYPRODUCT of a group or groups

of PEOPLE PRAYING THINGS OUT EARNESTLY

COVETING, DESIRING THIS MOVE THAT I GET

TO COME AND FREELY ENJOY. AND ALL IT

COST ME WAS IF I CAN JUST GET there

>> and then yield myself.

And for me,

>> yes,

>> yielding myself always meant I am gonna

dance the floor to pieces.

Now I say that today, BUT THAT'S HOW

THAT WAS HOW I yielded myself.

It was like um

it's funny to think about, but I knew if

I could just get myself now, I'm not

trying to get you all stirred up, so

just just don't get things in your mind.

But if I could get my body to move in a

way, and however you want to put this,

this is how I put it. That would

embarrass my flesh.

>> Yeah.

YEAH.

>> THEN MY FLESH WOULD SHUT UP IN THAT

moment and all of a sudden, no matter

what type of day I had, I could start

hearing from God. You know, the Lord

knows. I'll tell you an interesting

testimony. It was 1997. It's my second

year at Rama. I'm one month in and I've

convinced myself and other voices

talking to me had convinced me that I

had made a big mistake coming back for a

second year.

And I'm sitting there. I'm literally on

the second row. I've got my crew of

people of wild cards.

Little side note to sit on our row. We

had a an agreement.

You could only sit on this row and we

would only save a seat for you. But if

one dances, we all dance whether you

feel it or not. If one runs, we all run

whether you feel like it or not. Now, if

you're dragging in, you had a bad day,

you might need to sit one row behind us

because this row is A DANCING ROW. THIS

row is A RUNNING ROW. THIS IS AN AMENING

ROW. THIS IS A PULLING ROW. WE CAME

HERE. We came here to get loaded.

>> Yeah,

>> we've all had the same amount of time

today, but we came here on a mission.

You know, I was on a mission to get

drunk in the Holy Ghost.

When was the last time you're on a

mission to get drunk in the Holy Ghost?

>> Man, if it's been a while, YOU OUGHT TO

OUGHT TO DO something about that. Say,

"What would I do?" Ask him to refill

you.

>> Has anyone ever said you look like Woody

Harrelson?

>> I keep thinking I'm preaching to Woody

Harrelson, which would be so cool.

But we were on a mission

like the Blues Brothers. We're on a

mission from God. I truly believe that.

Why am I telling you all these things?

Well, some of you probably just need to

loosen up a little bit. But, uh,

I think there's something to this all

these years later.

You know, in those meetings, if the Lord

could get me to move out of my seat

in a run or a dance or even just going

down front or just getting in the aisle

and do something that would scare my

flesh,

remember I'm 19, single,

not really chasing girls, but not not

thinking about it,

right?

So many things going on in a young man's

mind when he knows that the river of the

spirit's moving and everything that he

desires is in there. What? That's truth.

And I knew there was freedom in that

truth.

>> Remember so many times things would

attack my mind. Say, "Not tonight,

Roberts. Just be cool. So and so's here.

You know, so and so's over here. This

group's over here." I remember one time

I was on the stage uh at one of those

meetings. It was 97 I think 96.

I know I can't get off this. I'm sorry.

I'm going to waste the whole time. I

know it happens. But uh I remember it

was Dr. Seville night and I was so

looking forward to to that.

And uh you know he came in a suit.

We all wore suits that night but his was

especially nice.

Well, uh, I don't know how exactly I

fell into it. Normally, I got there

early around 5 5:30 when the ushers I

had a friend named Shane who used to be

a part of this outfit. He lives out in

California now, but I'd be there the

time he'd show up and I'd get my seat

and then lay my coat down on two seats

knowing that was not right because

you're only supposed to save one seat,

but I'd always push the envelope for the

sake of others. I believe that's noble.

and uh and I'd get my seat. Well, uh for

some reason this night there were

different entouragees and my normal

seats weren't available, but they said

we have a SEAT RIGHT UP HERE ON the

stage for you and and your friend. So, I

thought I you're switching up my

routine.

I I don't belong on the stage. They

said, "Well, we're expecting a very big

crowd tonight and these seats, these

sections are full." And I it just

bothered me.

So, I'm sitting up there and I'm up

there with with, you know, important

people and I'm not one of them, but I

was sitting next to an important person

and the whole time I'm just wanting to

break out. I mean, I'm just wanting TO

GET THE PARTY GOING. But tonight, DR.

HERE AND THERE'S JUST THIS THING IN the

atmosphere that's one that in, you know,

in high school I was the guy that went

to start the mosh pit, you know, heavy

metal concerts and I would pace the

floor while the band's warming up, you

know, and I'm just making my my way

here, getting everybody out of my way

because when it comes down to it, I'm

going to come in AND WE'RE GOING TO

THROW DOWN. AND MY WHOLE AGENDA BACK

THEN WAS I'M GOING TO GET on that stage

and I'M GOING TO THROW A FIT UNTIL THEY

THROW ME OFF THE STAGE HOPEFULLY for

glorious stage dive time

and I had it.

It's funny how the Lord knows what rings

your bell

and it often carries over in the spirit.

>> He knows the desires of your heart.

And so there I am, center stage. Dr.

Sevel's right there. I could sense it. I

was watching him. He's teaching along.

And I thought, he wants to get wilder

than I want to get. I can tell. But

there's like a stuffiness happening.

We got to do something about this. I'm

sitting here thinking about that.

No music.

Pastor Ray Jean, well, he wasn't

pastoring then. He sat down. Now, David

Ellis has stopped carrying the tune. Now

it's teaching time.

And I sat there and I couldn't hear a

word. I thought, "This is NOT HOW THE

HOLY Ghost meetings go." You know,

that's my seat down there. I started

getting jealous of this these group down

there in my seat. Didn't feel

comfortable.

I don't know. He got on to preach for a

minute and something in me. I thought if

I sit here any longer, I'm going to kick

myself an hour from now when it's all

done.

And I just I got mad at myself and I

don't know what he said, BUT BUT I FELT

LIKE people were getting up and

applauding and saying amen. AND I I JUST

threw a fit right there on that stage

and I ran off JUST TO GET OFF THAT

STAGE. You know, little did I know I

looked back and I don't know if you ever

tried to run at a Holy Ghost meeting at

the Bazies. There was a crowd of people

after me like they wanted to hurt me

and the place came unglued. You say,

"Why are you telling us this? I don't

know.

I don't know. But I'll tell you this,

none of that's changed in my heart.

I like to go to uh meetings with this

expectancy

that that the Lord

has something already cooking in the

works for me to partake of.

>> And not only that, I'M EXPECTING WHAT

HE'S GOT. taste and see that the Lord is

good. I'M EXPECTING THAT WHATEVER FLAVOR

HE'S bringing tonight OR SUNDAY MORNING,

I'M GOING WITH THAT EXPECTANCY THAT THAT

IF I CAN GET A TASTE, IT'S GOING TO BE

BETTER than anything I'VE HAD ALL WEEK,

ALL MONTH, MAYBE ALL YEAR, MAYBE IN ALL

MY LIFE. AND MY RESPONSE TO THAT IS

USUALLY breaking out and something wild

happening.

You say, "Do we really have to dance? Do

we really have to run?" I mean, I is

that really today?

I think so.

>> Amen.

>> But I mean, you really think that I

mean, there's something in in dancing

like that, like, you know, just, you

know, really cutting through and just,

you know, THERE'S SOMETHING. WELL, I'LL

SAY THIS. THERE'S NO PRISON.

>> YEAH.

>> In that.

>> Good stuff.

>> It's good stuff.

>> There there there's no chains.

>> That's right.

>> In that.

>> Yeah. So, good.

>> There there's there's there's no

depression

>> hanging around that.

any voices that were talking to you

about anything at all or belittling you

or making you feel small or making your

ministry look small in your eyes. You

know, the demons,

they're the same demons that were HERE

IN JOSHUA AND CALEB'S DAY WHEN THE OTHER

SPIES CAME OUT AND SAID, "IT'S LIKE WE

LOOK SMALL IN OUR OWN EYES. WE'RE LIKE

GRASSHOPPERS." WHERE DO YOU THINK THEY

GOT THAT? MOSES DIDN'T SAY YOU'RE LIKE

GRASSHOPPERS. GOD DIDN'T TELL MOSES

THAT. THEY MUST HAVE HEARD THAT FROM

SOME VOICE.

>> YEAH.

>> I'm convinced.

>> Yes.

>> That not only did Joshua and Caleb for

the 40 days when they saw the same

things that everybody else saw,

experienced the same things that

everybody else saw. I'M CONVINCED THAT

BEFORE they went to bed, they danced

before the Lord. Amen.

>> They shouted over the victory.

>> WHEN THEY SAW EACH other slipping,

>> saying the wrong thing, they became the

Christian police.

>> Have you heard about this?

>> It's a new thing. We've been labeled.

If you speak faith and you don't

tolerate doubt, you're Christianes.

I HAD NO IDEA. IT'S A whole new

nationality.

I'm learning about it.

BUT IF YOU TALK LIKE JESUS

>> YEAH.

>> AND YOU WANT TO FLOW IN THE HOLY GHOST

AND YOU TALK LIKE ALL OF THIS STUFF IS

STILL REAL THAT WAS ALIVE IN THE 70S,

80S, 90S, AND ACTUALLY SINCE the

beginning of everything,

>> if you talk like that, you're

Christianes.

>> IT'S AMAZING HERE. I THOUGHT I WAS

AMERICAN, but I'm Christian.

I'm Christian East.

>> Good stuff.

>> You say, "Why are you telling us all

this?" I I don't know. I I feel like my

whole ministry the last several years is

just to stir things up.

>> Just stir up.

>> Just Just stir people up a little bit.

>> Sometimes people need to be reminded.

>> Yeah.

It's about a year ago we had come home.

We do um well we do Holy Ghost meetings

in different parts of the country. We

keep going back. We you know 10 years

ago I had left a job opportunity at a

ministry and I moved to Fort Worth,

Texas because God told me to. Now newly

wed to a wonderful doctor of physical

therapy. amazing ballerina for the San

Diego Ballet. And I told her family,

"We're moving to Boston.

Moving to Boston? What's in Boston?" She

just got a job. We spent hundred AND

SOMETHING THOUSAND DOLLARS ON AN "WHAT

DO YOU MEAN YOU'RE MOVING TO BOSTON?"

God told me to.

You know, in that year, I remember going

to different um meetings and

conferences,

and I remember being told by some of the

best in the world that we can't throw

around that term anymore. We've ruined

the term that God told us to, "Oh, what

are we supposed to say?"

>> I came up with this. That doesn't sound

right.

But the idea that we blame everything on

God, well, we got to get our thoughts

>> and intents of the heart and where we're

going from the leader. And that leader

just happens to be God.

>> And so, as hard as it was, I told my

in-laws, I said, "Uh, we've got to move

to Boston.

We're going to go there for one year,

and we're going to serve in the local

church, and we're going to hear from God

about the plan for our life." because I

knew God had a plan for us that was

beyond uh me serving coffee at the local

Starbucks

and it was beyond uh uh dancing for the

ballet which is beautiful. My wife is

amazing dancer

and it was beyond uh uh simply the

medical field which is a great field.

She's done very well made a lot of money

in that field when she was doing that.

But you know, the leading of the spirit

always seemed more important

than anything else. And so we went to

Boston. About nine months in, the Lord

started talking to us about Texas.

Now, I don't know if you've ever been

concerned about what people think about

you. Anybody?

>> But when you say we're moving to Boston,

and then nine months later you're now

talking about Texas, that looks like

you're unstable.

Do you know what? God's not moved by any

of that.

>> Come on.

>> I started talking to the Lord. I said,

"Man, this is really looking like I

don't know what I'm doing." He said,

"You really don't.

That's why I'm here."

>> Yeah.

>> You know, if you'll talk openly to the

Holy Spirit, HE HE'LL TALK JUST AS PLAIN

TO YOU. I SAY, "LORD, this looks like I

DON'T KNOW WHAT I'M DOING." HE'S LIKE,

"You don't know what you're doing. I

know what we're doing."

Little did I know, you know, just 12, 13

years later,

uh, he was teaching me how to follow him

no matter what the outward situation

looked like. So there we are in Fort

Worth and, uh, Romans 8:14. Did we turn

Romans 8:14

there yet?

>> They that are led by the spirit of God

are the sons of God.

verse one there it says uh talks about

following after the things of the

spirit.

You know, so much in the um and notice

the quotes because they're big.

So much in the spiritual world of

Christianity has more to DO WITH THE

FLESH than anything concrete spiritual

because that would require us to say God

told us to do this. God is leading us

this way. God wants this.

You know, one thing I I'm learning is

the Lord likes it when I put it on the

line for him.

You know, something Charles Caps taught

us is when I'm following the Lord, we'll

probably get to heaven and find out how

many times we missed it, thinking we

were following him. And because of our

faith in him, he made up for it and we

never knew it.

>> I'M CONVINCED THAT WHOLEHEARTEDNESS WITH

my relationship

>> with Holy Spirit where he can see it.

Lord, I'm trying to follow you and I I I

and in in giving him time in prayer, in

seeking him.

>> Come on.

>> Sometimes I find it best to to get down

on on my knees.

>> I was at this church a couple of years

ago and Cindy Black, you know, Cindy,

she was up on the stage and there was

all these big ministers there and I was

there to speak for a night. I kept

hearing the voice of the spirit. HE

SAID, "YOU KNOW, it's real nice down

there on that carpet."

And I said, "It's nice down there on

that carpet." You know, the Bible says,

"Put him in remembrance of his word."

That's not just things you read in the

thing. That's putting him in remembrance

of what he just said right now.

>> And I said, "Lord," you said, "It's nice

down there on that carpet." He said,

"Yeah, it's real nice down there on that

carpet. You ought to go down there. That

I'm down there." And I said, "You want

me to get on the floor right now?" And I

started looking around. Nobody else is

on the floor.

Cindy backs up there and the anointing's

moving in. And this wasn't like a, you

know, a hush moment. This was like a,

you know, a gospel moment. And and I

just kept hearing, you know, it's real

nice down there on that carpet. I'd like

to talk to you down there. Can we talk

down there?

And I thought, if I think about this for

two more seconds, see all those things

in those Holy Ghost me, IF I THOUGHT

ABOUT running for another 30 seconds, if

I considered it for another 10 seconds,

I ain't got to do it.

>> That's good.

>> I find out the QUICKER THAT I RESPOND TO

THE VOICE OF HIS LEADING, the quicker I

get in and the quicker we go and the

quicker all of a sudden something

happens.

I said, "Okay, Lord. I'll meet you on

the carpet." got right down there. Right

down there. And the Lord said, "No, no,

it's really good way way down here."

And I said, "You you

down here?" And he said, "It'd be easier

if you just you get down here. Just go

ahead and lay down."

This is two years ago.

And I said, 'You want me to lay down on

the carpet?

He said, 'It's good down there. You had

a long day. You drove all the way from

Tulsa. Y'all just lay down here on the

carpet with me. You have a minute. And I

started looking around. I thought, if I

lay down on the carpet, I'm the guest

speaker. I've never been here. People

are going to immediately think the

worst.

remember like grasshoppers.

>> I said, "Okay, Lord." And I laid all the

way down. I won't do it just because

I've been sore. We've been playing a lot

of Frisbee lately.

You know what? 3 seconds after I got

down there, Lord started ministering his

peace to me.

He started bringing his peace over me.

Now, see, it was just a few minutes

before I was thanking God that I wasn't

going to make a fool out of myself

and asking him to grace me for what I

was supposed to do in this meeting.

And there's something about denying the

flesh.

>> I believe this is what the Apostle Paul

was talking about here, NOT FOLLOWING

AFTER WHAT MY FLESH SAYS.

If you do this, they're going to label

YOU THAT. IF YOU TALK LIKE THIS, IT'S

GOING TO KEEP YOU OUT OF THESE CIRCLES.

If you DO THIS THING AND FOLLOW THIS

THING AND BE THIS WAY, YOUR ministry

will have little effect and you will

remain small.

In the biggest places, and the biggest

people, the biggest numbers, you'll be

an outcast.

You know, the enemy has a strong voice.

I hate to say it, and you won't like to

hear it maybe, but sometimes his voice

is stronger in the local church

>> where he's actually

saying what can and cannot happen. You

could be in a place saying all things

are possible to him that believes,

but if the devil don't like it and

there's enough people

that care what other people think over

what God thinks,

Holy Spirit's just bound to walk out of

the room

and never come back.

You say, "You mean never come back?

That type of thinking does not invite

his type of thinking.

I'm convinced that if he wants me to lay

on the floor, what do I care?

>> That's right.

>> If he wants me to run around the room,

what do I care?

It was a few months ago.

It's about six months ago. I was out

doing my routine, mowing the grass.

I was listening to Brother Hagen. I'm a

multitasker.

Listen to Brother Hagen

in my earbuds. I got those noise

cancelling ones. So, it's just me and

Brother Hagen. I get in the flow. I

don't know if you're like this. I'll

listen to the same video 10, 12, 15, 30

times, especially Brother Hagen.

And he's talking.

This is like six months ago. He's

talking about how to be led by the

spirit. Have you heard this stuff? How,

man? If you hadn't, you're missing it.

You got to get the Hagen on how to be

led by the spirit. It it is it's

it's what they say. It's a game changer.

It changes everything. Once I learn to

be led in here and not up here, spirit

of man is the candle of Lord searching

all the inward parts of the belly. He

will enlighten me by my spirit. You

know, God's not a mind. He won't speak

to you in your mind. He'll only speak to

you as a spirit in your spirit. AND SO,

IT PAYS TO LEARN THE VOICE OF THE INWARD

WITNESS. And it's so easy.

>> But there will be exercises along the

way.

>> It could be, hey, I want you to get up

and rejoice.

>> He might give you a few scriptures.

Rejoice in the Lord always. THAT MEANS

ALL THE TIMES. RIGHT NOW IS A GOOD WAY.

RIGHT NOW'S A GOOD TIME. THAT'S ONE OF

THOSE TIMES.

>> WELL, LORD, nobody else is rejoicing.

And I'm in a mall.

REJOICE IN THE LORD ALWAYS. AND AGAIN, I

SAY REJOICE. WELL, LORD, I IF I REJOICE

NOW, PEOPLE ARE GOING TO THINK I'm

crazy.

>> How many believe that God knows the

outcome of a thing more than you do?

And how many would also agree THAT IF

THE OUTCOME ISN'T WHAT YOU THOUGHT IT

WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE MOMENT, THAT'S

STILL OKAY.

>> HOW MANY KNOW that crazier things are

happening in the mall or a parking lot

than you shouting glory to God?

>> We live in a world now where men dress

like women, AND YOU BETTER LOVE THAT.

We live in a world now where where there

KIDS ARE BEING FED DRUGS. THE THE THE

BOYS CAN BECOME GIRLS AND GIRLS. LET ME

ASK YOU, WHAT'S WEIRDER? You praying in

tongues

>> or what's going on?

What do I care?

What do I care if the Lord wants to lead

me in a way that not everyone else IS

GOING? WHAT DO I CARE? In fact, HE SAID,

"DON'T CARE. CAST ALL YOUR CARES UPON

ME. I'LL DO ALL THE CARING FOR YOU. ALL

YOU'VE GOT TO DO is listen

>> and obey.

And everything, like they say in

Jamaica, will be iry.

Everything's going to be all right.

Everything's going to be all right. You

know, everything can only be all right

when I'm following the Holy Spirit.

So, I'm out there mowing my grass and

Brother Hagen's teaching me this stuff

for at least I don't know the thousandth

time. I'm getting so much out of it. I'm

hearing some of the same stories but

hearing little tidbits and I thought,

"Oh, I didn't didn't realize that was

that year and that and I'm just having a

good time.

and and we're just a few weeks out from

this meeting we're hosting.

Now, leading up to the lawn session with

brother Hagen, I had been asking the

Lord. Oh, and here's A SIDE THOUGHT.

YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TELL GOD WHEN TO

respond to you because you're not in

charge of God.

>> Quicker you learn that, the happier you

will be.

>> Sometimes I'd ask God a question over

the years. I'd want it right now.

And I think if I asked louder that would

help him hear because he's old

or if I asked him a lot, just a lot.

I've got a six-year-old who asked me a

lot. You know what I mean by that?

Daddy, can we do this? Daddy. DADDY WAS

THERE. DADDY, CAN WE HAVE ONE OF THESE?

DADDY. DADDY. DADDY. DADDY. DADDY. AND I

I LOVE it much of the time. I love it.

some of the time at least.

>> But I've been talking to the Lord for

weeks out of my spirit. And then as I

had utterance, I'd speak boldly. That's

what utterance is good for, to speak

boldly.

And I'd say, "Lord, uh, I thank you that

you're leading me and directing my

path." Now, concerning these meetings

coming up, I believe you've put these

people in my sight,

but but there's this one thing that

keeps coming up to me every morning and

every night, and I just like to know, I

know the voice of the inward witness. I

know the voice OF THE HOLY GHOST, BUT I

JUST WANT TO ASK YOU, is that you

telling me to invite them?

I didn't hear anything.

So I put brother Hagen back on went

mowing. But see now days have gone by,

weeks have gone by and I've got a flyer

that needs to go out and I got things

you know that I'm doing for other

ministers and pastors. I'm just

convinced that the Lord keeps bringing

this up.

Well, I finish uh finish the lawn

and soon as I'm putting this is a half

hour later. Soon as I'm putting the

mower away, I hear on the inside, well,

WHY DON'T YOU ASK HIM?

And I thought, wait, this isn't the type

of person you just ask. You know, you

don't just go, hey, you want to come to

a meeting? You want to come to a

meeting?

It just felt weird. It felt like, how am

I going to approach that? Should I call

my non-existent secretary and have her,

you know, how people do. Should we send

it by email? Is it appropriate to text?

I'll have to ask Joe Morris for his

number. I don't know how this all works.

I don't know why it got so under my

skin.

But I walked inside and I went and I

said, "Kirsten," I said, "I keep

thinking we're supposed to invite Pastor

Mark to our meeting coming up. I think

he is the one. In fact, if I had to bet

an actual sum of money, I would put it

on there now." But I keep asking the

Lord. And all HE SAID WAS, "WELL, WHY

DON'T YOU ASK? He didn't give me a yes."

See, I'd prefer it.

>> This is another thing with the Lord.

>> He's not gonna work with your preference

of how you want him to be.

>> You don't lead him. You don't get to

tell HIM HOW TO TALK to you. There's not

going to be any of this. I'm not ready

for that, Lord. You know, the Lord will

wake you up in the middle of the night,

and he'll keep waking you up if he SO

DESIRES. IN FACT, I FOUND THAT THE LORD

will not let you sleep IF HE DECIDES NOT

TO LET YOU SLEEP. WHY? BECAUSE HE'S GOD.

>> Some people don't like that. They like

the cartoon version of God. God's bound

by his word. Yes, he is. The earth is

the Lord and the fullness thereof,

including you and me. He created you and

me. People say, "Well, he he's not a man

that he should lie." You know, you can

try and make the scripture say anything

that that fits your preference, BUT HE

MIGHT SNEAK UP ON you one day and tell

you to do something and go, "You really

want me to do that?" AND HE'LL GO,

"YEAH,

I really want YOU TO DO THAT right now."

And so I said, "I really think we're

supposed to ask Pastor Mark

to come to meetings." Now, my wife

didn't grow up in the house that I grew

up in. She didn't grow up with camp

meeting every year with the Brazes

coming to your place and and your

parents and she didn't grow up. She

goes, "Well, what are you waiting for?

Why don't you just ask?" I SAID, "NAZ,

SEE?" I KNEW YOU'D SAY THAT. BUT YOU

JUST DON'T GO ASK THE Brazes to do a

thing. I mean, then it's going to BE

AWKWARD IF THEY SAY, "WELL, NO, we we'd

rather not." Or I mean, it just this

whole scenario. I THOUGHT, "HOW ARE WE

GOING TO ATTEND church after that?" Cuz

it's going to be this awkward thing of

explaining why we didn't DO THIS. OR

MAYBE IT WON'T. MAYBE THEY WON'T SAY

ANYTHING and it'll just be all on me and

I'll be all awkward and wondering why

THEY DIDN'T WANT TO COME. AND IT'S JUST,

YOU KNOW WHAT? WE SHOULDN'T ASK HIM AT

ALL. JUST FORGET THE whole thing.

Am I the only one that's ever talked

themselves out of the will of God?

Some of you are making me feel funny. Is

this too much?

So, I decided NOT TO ASK.

>> NOW, I'm in disobedience.

>> You ever asked the Lord for an answer,

then he gave it to you, and now it's UP

TO YOU TO OBEY WHAT HE SAID, BUT YOU

DIDN'T LIKE WHAT HE SAID, AND SO YOU ACT

LIKE YOU didn't hear what he said. One

of the greatest things the Lord ever

told me was two years ago coming out of

a meeting. He said, 'Joe,

I got things for you to do, and I got I

got places for YOU TO COME UP IN, but

you MUST STOP ACTING LIKE YOU DON'T HEAR

me when you know that you did.

And then he said, "Write that down."

So, I wrote down, he said, "Now write it

on your hand.

I want you to look at that all day and

say it all day.

I will obey

when I hear your voice. I WILL STOP

ACTING LIKE I DON'T hear you

when I know I did.

You want to get somewhere faster with

God?

Don't just act like you hear him when

you're hoping he's saying something that

you like or something that you want.

Make a practice of putting him instantly

in remembrance of what he said AND

LETTING HIM KNOW, I heard you. IF

NOTHING ELSE, IT'S called respect.

>> Amen.

>> I respect the Lord

enough to say, Lord, I heard you. You

know, I heard you because you know all

things.

That opens up a door. There's been times

since then in two years where I've been

able to say, "Lord, I hear you, but I'll

be honest with you. I don't like what I

heard.

Do I have to do this? Do I have to be

this way?" You know, many times it's uh

involving me humbling myself

before people, me preferring

others,

me asking for forgiveness. I don't know

ABOUT YOU, THAT'S NOT MY favorite thing

to do all week is to humble myself and

go to my brother or go to somebody in

the body and say, "Hey,

I just want to want to humble myself and

and apologize

and repent."

You know why there's such a small

percentage of that going on in the body

of Christ is because it's not fun,

>> right?

But it opens the door.

>> I never knew it.

Charles Caps revealed something to me.

Not personally,

but he said when you look at Mark 11:23

Mark 11:23

and 24, he's specifically dealing with

the faith to move the mountain

of unforgiveness.

>> Yeah.

>> I never saw it. It's right there in

verse 25. It's the caveat

>> of why I FEED MY FAITH, WHY CONFESSION,

and it went off in me when I heard that

and I thought it is the biggest mountain

I face

often

is a mountain of unforgiveness,

the mountain of the flesh

where the Lord would say, "Hey, we're

going here, too. WE'VE COME UP ONE SIDE,

NOW WE'RE GOING HERE, TOO.

Let's make way for the spirit." that

he's always saying, "Let's make way for

me to move." He's always saying, "Let's

make way for me to move. I want to do

something." He told me that day, he

said, "You're constantly doing this

thing. You're asking me to do stuff.

You're asking me to show up. You're

asking me for my wisdom." And you've got

SCRIPTURE FOR ALL THOSE THINGS. JAMES 1,

IF ANY OF YOU LACK WISDOM, LET HIM ASK

ABOUT. YOU ALWAYS WANT MY WISDOM. YOU

ALWAYS WANT WHAT I HAVE. YOU WANT MY

ANOINTING, MY BURDEN REMOVING, YOKE

DESTROYING POWER.

But when I ASK YOU FOR SOMETHING I WANT,

my humility,

he gives grace to the humble, but he has

to resist the proud. He said, 'When it

comes to those things, you often act

like you don't hear the same voice that

tells you that the blessing is on its

way, that the favor is on its way, not

to worry, not to fret, NOT TO FEAR. YOU

LIKE THAT VOICE WHEN I'M TELLING YOU

GOOD THINGS ARE HAPPENING.

He said, "You got to got to fix this.

You can't block me out

when I'm saying something.

I say all these things. I hope you know

this is coming out of my heart. I had

three messages. I was so nervous about

preaching in Pastor Mo Mark's pulpit.

Lord kept telling me, "It's good for you

to study, but I got things in mind. So

just practice what you preach

>> and just follow me.

And after all, it doesn't matter what

anyone anyone in this room thinks about

me. It's really what you think about

him.

>> Yeah.

>> And that is the preparation.

Lord, I don't want to

I don't want to make a fool out of you

before people and say it was you.

Lord, I want you to actually speak.

Lord, I want you to actually move. A lot

of times that requires less preparation

of what I might say to impress people.

There's something to this. I know there

is. So, I got over myself and got over

the willies and I texted Pastor Janet. I

said, "I just got done listening to

Brother Hagen. I'm mowing my grass and

I'm convinced." I said, "I ask you

humbly without any strings attached. We

got these meetings coming up in a few

weeks." And I told her all about him. I

said, "Uh, would you guys like to come?"

I said, "I only asked I I I'm not saying

I'm being led now. I'm uh you know,

safeguarding myself

and there's absolutely no pressure, but

but if if if if you guys are open to it,

if you'd pray about it."

And she said, "Oh, we know about your

meetings. We've watched some of your

meetings."

She said, "Yeah, we'll pray about it."

You know, I didn't hear anything for a

couple weeks.

And my wife said, now she didn't grow up

like us. She said, 'Why don't you just

call? I said, ' No, no, no. YOU DON'T DO

THAT. NO, NO. IT WAS ENOUGH TO PUT IT

OUT THERE. I CAN'T PUT IT OUT THERE A

SECOND TIME.

I'll fast forward because my time's up

from goofing off. Yeah, Pastor Mark uh

he texted me

just a couple weeks out. I think the

advertising may have already been done.

He said, 'Hey, if that meeting's still

on, you want me to come? I'd like to be

there. You know what I did?

I did what I always do. I told the Lord

about a week before that, I said, "If if

Pastor Mark," now whether he's supposed

to be there or not, whether he wants to

come, I said, "But if he does come, I

will dance before you. I will rejoice. I

don't care if I'm in the mall, if I'm at

a gas station. You say you always do

that. I always do that. Ever since one

time I was way below on E. I had my I

had my my whole family in a car. My wife

can tell you this is true. This happened

several years ago. We're driving. It's

midnight or later and I'm dragging

dragging our travel trailer and we're

not in a cool part of town. And uh I I

got to I got to get gas and my GPS says

I'm 20some miles out. And I started

praying in tongues out of fear.

And I said, 'Lord, if you will get me to

that gas station,

Lord, I I'm I'm dealing now.

If you will get me to that gas station,

I don't care if there's 30 truckers

there. If you will get me to close

enough to that pump to to take CARE OF

PUTTING GAS IN MY CAR, I will open re

rejoice you and you can count ON A HOLY

GHOST SPIRITFILLED PENTECOSTAL dance at

1:00 a.m. because that's when the GPS

SAYS I'M LANDING THERE AT 1:00 A.M. HAVE

WE GOT A DEAL, LORD? ARE WE DANCING

TOGETHER IN THE GAS STATION OVER YOUR

FAITHFULNESS, OVER YOUR MIRACLE WORKING

POWER OR NOT? HALLELUJAH. AND

>> I HEARD THIS, I'll be your huckleberry.

>> And I knew in that moment,

>> ME AND THE HOLY GHOST, IT IS ON.

>> YOU know what? He did and I did. And

about eight different people, my wife

can tell you, were looking at me as I

went, "GLORY TO GOD. HALLELUJAH.

HALLELUJAH. We made IT TO THE GAS

STATION. OH MY GOD, YOU ARE FAITHFUL.

>> YEAH,

>> I'm convinced

that the Lord wants to have that kind of

relationship

>> with you and me.

>> The kind that makes deals

where he gets a piece of the action.

Have you ever asked yourself, "What does

God get from the deal?

Or is it all what I get?

You know, if you start treating Holy

Spirit, not the you don't, this is just

me talking from my recent experiences.

If you'll start treating him like an

actual real person

and talk to him

well, like he's your friend or your

buddy. Not disrespectful like a, you

know, an old army buddy or something.

I'm not saying that. But talk to him. I

hope this is okay because this is a word

of faith church. Like as if he had

feelings

and say, "Lord,

what do you think about this?"

It was a few years ago I opened that

door of the feelings and I thought, "I

don't know. We're not supposed to be

moved by what we feel or see. I know

that, Lord. But Lord, do you have

feelings?

Do you feel?

I heard this. He said, "How do you think

I feel?" I started laughing. I said, "So

you you've got feelings?"

He said, "Yeah, I've got desires. I've

got feelings."

And I knew he was leading me out of the

words. IT WAS COMING OUT OF MY SPIRIT. I

said, "Lord, I want to learn about your

feelings because if if that's real, THEN

YOU'RE NOT JUST STONE. YOU'RE NOT JUST

COLD. IT'S NOT. IT'S A real

relationship.

>> And he said, "You're on to something. If

you'll consider how I feel about a

thing, if you'll consider what I would

think, IF YOU'LL PUT YOURSELF IN MY

shoes

and ask me what would I do in your shoes

if I were you, you'll get places

faster."

There's something about partnering with

Holy Spirit and having this wonderful

relationship that makes sense.

Does your relationship with him make

good sense

for him? It does.

I think I'm on to something. My

relationship with him is starting to

make great sense. I wish I'd known these

things so many years ago.

that he he actually cares about the

decisions of my life and he wants to

walk WITH ME AND TALK WITH ME AND DO

WILD, WONDERFUL, EXTRAVAGANT THINGS AND

JUST HAVE A BLAST.

HIM being him, me being me, us being us,

but always together.

Always together.

I'm learning. There's just not enough

time. But I'm I'm learning to include

him.

Lord, I'm going to the going to the

baseball game with the boys. You want to

come? See, it just sounds weird.

Not until he shows up

>> and shows you favor at the popcorn

stand, shows you favor at the hot dog.

You show up and it's bat night and

you're within the first 500 people, you

get a free bat.

>> Don't think for a second that's not him

doing all that stuff. Yeah,

>> he gets you the parking spot when nobody

else people are honking and all of a

sudden he gets your attention and he's

like, "Hey, check that out." And

somebody's pulling out

favor.

>> The Lord goes, "Aren't you glad you

invited me?

I know where all the good parking is. I

know where all the good deals are. You

ought to invite me more often."

We're so big on the words of our mouth.

How about the words like of a

invitation?

>> Lord, do you want to come with me? What

about invitation in the pulpit? Lord, I

don't care what we do. Lord, you want to

do something? Lord, what do you want to

do? Lord, what do you think about this?

There's something about and it all stems

back

to those things I learned and I'm still

learning through those Holy Ghost

meetings. You know, Pastor Mark came

I didn't get to any of my notes. That's

all right. Pastor Mark came

to that that meeting several months ago

all the way up in New Hampshire. It

wasn't an easy spot to get to.

It was just a little gathering. I told

him in advance right here in this

church. I said, "I just want to let you

know there's maybe 40, 50 people in the

night meetings, maybe 20 in the

morning." He said, "Oh, I don't care

about any of that." I said, 'But they're

hungry people. They're hungry.

Not that he needed me to tell him

anything. I knew if he was coming, it's

because the Lord told him to come. Not

like he ain't got anything better to do.

I remember sitting there and just when

he stood up, it wasn't anything because

of my expectancy. It was just because

the Lord's so good and strong on our

pastor.

just the anointing

started radiating.

I don't know how often I opened my eyes

the full first service. I just sat there

and enjoyed just enjoyed the presence of

God. Much like at the beginning of the

service, just sitting there enjoying,

hear me,

another person's

price

that they've spent in the secret place

for my benefit.

I've got a gratefulness in my heart

today that I didn't have

maybe a year or so ago. thought I did,

but it's very evident now. I'm thankful

for the tangible presence

of God.

And you know, I don't know everything,

but I'm smart enough now to know he

doesn't have to do that.

But I want that.

I know there's more of that to be had.

the tangible presence of God on my life.

And I am convinced

that he manifests in that way

from Genesis to Revelation. I'm