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SUMMER FREEDOM SERIES: Addiction and the Journey Towards Humanness, Phil Chan

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  1. If you're sitting in here, it doesn't

  2. matter what how good of a church you go

  3. to. Doesn't matter how good the message

  4. is, doesn't matter how good the worship

  5. is. The state that Jesus requires us

  6. when we come before him every time

  7. before we get transformed is a state of

  8. desperation.

  9. It is a state of desperation because

  10. when we are desperate, we have no more

  11. pride.

  12. James 4 says that God opposes the

  13. prideful and he gives grace to the

  14. humble.

  15. >> He actually will stiff arm if there's

  16. pride in us. And this demoniac had

  17. received the transformation that he was

  18. looking for because he came to the state

  19. of desperation.

  20. And you and I cannot have transformation

  21. without desperation.

  22. >> We cannot receive much from God because

  23. as long as We have an inkling of pride

  24. left in us. You cannot hear his teaching

  25. because that little pride says whispers

  26. to us, but I can still do it.

  27. I know the way.

  28. And every and Jesus will not come back

  29. with pride.

  30. He's waiting for us to come to a place

  31. of desperation. If we're looking for

  32. life transformation, we're we're living

  33. in a culture of great self-determinism

  34. and self-help.

  35. >> And Jesus doesn't want any of that. He

  36. is looking for people that come to him

  37. with desperation and hunger because then

  38. the real work begins. I had this

  39. revelation that I don't know if this

  40. makes sense, but every inch of pride in

  41. my life

  42. is another year of delay for

  43. transformation.

  44. >> Amen.

  45. One of my mentors, Bob Walsh. Love that

  46. guy. He just keeps telling me, Phil, God

  47. is always trying to get you to the end

  48. of yourself.

  49. I don't care how gifted you are, Phil. I

  50. don't care how strong you are. I don't

  51. care how educated you are. I don't care

  52. how much money you got. I don't care who

  53. you know. [snorts]

  54. God is trying to get you to the end of

  55. yourself. [clears throat]

  56. >> The moment you get to the end of

  57. yourself, transformation begins.

  58. I remember points in my own struggle in

  59. many areas of development in my life. I

  60. had to come to a point where I had to be

  61. on my knees say, "God, I

  62. can't do it. There's there's no

  63. learning. There's no wisdom that I could

  64. I could have there's no one that can

  65. help me. I'm absolutely broken apart

  66. from this."

  67. And I realized that those were the

  68. secret moments of transformation where

  69. the heavens began opening up wisdom

  70. because I was ready to receive teaching.

  71. Some of you guys here are not yet

  72. transformed because you are not yet

  73. desperate enough for transformation.

  74. And God wants to give freedom,

  75. but he wants a whole heart who holy

  76. committed to him.

  77. Demon could get the transformation he

  78. needed because he was desperate. And the

  79. question I ask you today is, are you

  80. ready to work?

  81. Are you ready to work? That's question

  82. number one. Okay.

  83. Question number two is, do you know why

  84. you are the way you are? Do you know why

  85. you are the way you are? So the

  86. demoniac,

  87. they tried to help him. They put chains

  88. on him. They cast him to an island. But

  89. I love Jesus. I love Jesus because in my

  90. experience with him, he always goes to

  91. the core issue.

  92. He doesn't want to waste time dealing

  93. with people's symptoms. He wants to go

  94. right to the core. And I'm telling you

  95. today that there's behaviors in your

  96. life that are holding you back and are

  97. killing your life that Jesus wants to go

  98. deeper to the core.

  99. The harder, the more stubborn the

  100. behavior, the deeper you got to go

  101. because there is something underneath us

  102. that Jesus wants us to see for ourselves

  103. and he wants to deal with

  104. because the greater the depth, the

  105. greater your deliverance. And if we

  106. don't partner with Jesus in going deep,

  107. we're going to miss out.

  108. However, I realize that that sounds

  109. great on paper, right?

  110. But I realize that going deep is hard.

  111. quarantine was really hard. As a as a

  112. dude, I was going through this journey

  113. of like my own recovery and my

  114. therapists and my counselors and my

  115. mentors were like, Phil, you got to

  116. understand yourself. You got to go into

  117. your feelings

  118. [laughter]

  119. and I said,

  120. "What's that?"

  121. [laughter]

  122. Uh, one of the greatest practical things

  123. that my counselor told me is like, Phil,

  124. every morning, this is what I want you

  125. to do. I want you to get up and I want

  126. you to to journal multiple pages, just

  127. whatever comes top of your head. And I

  128. was like, that sounds crazy.

  129. I don't want to do that. I don't want to

  130. look at my thoughts there. That sounds

  131. scary. But much to the encouragement,

  132. [clears throat]

  133. finally did it. Started journaling.

  134. Started writing. And at first it's kind

  135. of awkward and weird.

  136. Uh, hey Jesus.

  137. Uh, I ate a bagel today.

  138. They just start like start talking about

  139. random stuff, right? Just like, "Wow,

  140. this journal sucks, you know, just just

  141. saying random things." But then

  142. something started happening.

  143. Started getting curious. started talking

  144. about like um you know something

  145. happened at work yesterday and I felt

  146. small

  147. >> and I wonder if that has to do with how

  148. I act when people don't encourage me

  149. start God started growing my curiosity

  150. about myself God started

  151. inviting me to make connections started

  152. inviting me to deeper and deeper places

  153. in my own life matching behavior and he

  154. started bringing me on deep healing

  155. journey

  156. healing memories,

  157. healing stories that I played in my head

  158. and it became this amazing process where

  159. the Holy Spirit started really

  160. transforming my life. And here's the

  161. thing,

  162. when I started doing that, I started

  163. really my my relationship with God went

  164. to like a whole another level. See, what

  165. I learned is like it's so easy in

  166. Christian faith to like stay at this

  167. root level. Like it's so great to enjoy

  168. worship, to come to church, smile. I'll

  169. tell you right now, that's easy.

  170. >> Okay. You know what's hard? What's

  171. amazing? What God was inviting me to is

  172. when you actually talk about your past

  173. with God.

  174. >> When you talk about your failures with

  175. God, you talk about your deepest,

  176. darkest, hardest things of why you do

  177. what you do. I started, let me tell you

  178. something. I started experiencing God's

  179. presence in a way that I've never

  180. experienced before. I realized that he

  181. knew me to the very core. You see the

  182. thing is God knows us to the very depth.

  183. Okay? It's not that God doesn't know.

  184. It's do do we know?

  185. >> He's waiting for us. He's waiting for us

  186. to know

  187. >> because he what I love about God's

  188. transformation, he doesn't force you to

  189. change. He's waiting for partnership

  190. with you to change.

  191. >> And it requires us to go to another

  192. level and at this level say yes Lord I

  193. want to be transformed at this level.

  194. And you go deeper. Yes, Lord. I want to

  195. be transformed at this level. I don't

  196. want surface level symptom treatment.

  197. God, I want this. I want to heal my

  198. parents beliefs. I want to hear heal all

  199. the stories growing up. I want to heal

  200. my wrong beliefs. And this is the depth

  201. that is necessary in order to actually

  202. see life transformation. See, Jesus when

  203. he saw the demonic game, I wanted to go

  204. to the actual root of the issue. And

  205. that's what actually delivered.

  206. I want to encourage you. You're here

  207. today. You're afraid of death. He's

  208. really gentle.

  209. >> He's really gentle. There's never been a

  210. moment where I've exposed something in

  211. my life to God, but he didn't hold it

  212. with such gentle hands.

  213. And Psalm 18 says that word gent

  214. has really been true in my life. The

  215. deeper I went, the more gentle Jesus was

  216. in transforming and bringing

  217. transformation.

  218. So the second question is, do you know

  219. why you are the way you are? Do you know

  220. why you

  221. >> Okay. The third question is

  222. why are you settling?

  223. Why are you settling?

  224. Um when the the morning I come to Jesus

  225. I find the fas it's like fascinating in

  226. terms of um his reaction which is don't

  227. torment me. They're like really afraid.

  228. You know the demons that control this

  229. life are really afraid of Jesus. And I

  230. can't I don't want to maybe pretend that

  231. the demons that were on this man are the

  232. same demons that afflict people in

  233. addiction. But I can tell you that

  234. they're very similar in two ways. Okay.

  235. Number one, they're very similar in that

  236. the demons are really afraid of Jesus.

  237. They really know that he's lord of lord

  238. and king of kings and judgment day is

  239. time for

  240. >> and that's good news for any of us feel

  241. that they are oppressed and struggling

  242. under spiritual oppression. Demons that

  243. are afflicting your life, they're really

  244. afraid of Jesus.

  245. >> Really afraid of Jesus. And number two

  246. is I can share I can share with

  247. certainty that no matter the source of

  248. the demons, no matter what their names

  249. are, No matter how you got them, they

  250. only have one job.

  251. Their one job is to keep you away from

  252. Jesus.

  253. That's their one job. So when the the

  254. the demon possessed man actually

  255. confronts Jesus, they're afraid. You

  256. know why? Cuz they're caught.

  257. They're caught. They're like, "You

  258. caught me in the act." And now that now

  259. that he's here, they're afraid.

  260. >> [clears throat]

  261. >> all demons try to do especially um I do

  262. sense that addiction behavior has a

  263. spiritual comp component to it for

  264. keeping us away from Jesus and

  265. specifically

  266. by offering us counterfeits in in his

  267. place that's all demons do they offer us

  268. counterfeits in his place

  269. I said that a lot of addiction is a pain

  270. response

  271. and in in my experience people

  272. experience pain

  273. And it's so sad to me. There's a moment

  274. in which I can almost imagine

  275. when the enemy comes and offers

  276. a substitute instead. He offers a

  277. counterfeit. He says, he says, "This

  278. will ease your pain. Try try this. This

  279. will make you feel better." And we take

  280. it

  281. and it feels good going in, but it hurts

  282. in our stomach. Our minds get hooked.

  283. They offer counterfeits. These

  284. counterfeits kill us. When I think about

  285. the things that people are addicted to,

  286. whether it's on your phone, whether it's

  287. pornography, whe it's alcohol, whether

  288. it's hard drugs,

  289. at the end of the day, I know that the

  290. devil is offered counterfeits of the

  291. real thing.

  292. This reminds me of something that

  293. [cough and clears throat] quote [snorts]

  294. I heard which is the man who rings the

  295. doorbell at the brothel is unconsciously

  296. looked for.

  297. Even the worst of us when we reach for

  298. that thing

  299. that deep desire is actually good and

  300. holy.

  301. It's just that the expression is coming.

  302. >> And that's why I believe that Jesus has

  303. so much compassion on people because he

  304. can see that the desires that God gave

  305. us are good. Desires for peace, desires

  306. for communion, desires for friendship,

  307. desires for love, desires for worth,

  308. desires for purpose. These are all good

  309. and godly things that put in us. Except

  310. the enemy comes and he intercepts those

  311. good desires with counterfeits. You guys

  312. understand? And we get hooked on the

  313. counterfeits and the counterfeits bind

  314. us because our minds get used to it and

  315. they laugh at us because now we we're

  316. we're settling for the counterfeits

  317. instead of the real thing.

  318. The real thing is himself.

  319. How do you get out of counterfeits? I

  320. want to share a funny story. Uh this one

  321. time I was really infatuated with these

  322. shoes.

  323. Uh, they're really cool. Okay, these

  324. shoes. These are just a mid. Um,

  325. but I love these shoes. They look good

  326. formally. They look good informally. And

  327. they're really comfortable. Okay,

  328. there's one problem.

  329. That was really expensive.

  330. And I was not about to pay that money

  331. for that shoot. Okay. [clears throat]

  332. But being the cheapo that I am,

  333. [laughter]

  334. >> let's go.

  335. being the cheap that I can. I start

  336. looking for the bootleg version.

  337. [clears throat]

  338. Okay.

  339. So, I'm at the mall, right? I'm like

  340. trying these things that kind of look

  341. like it. You know, it's like, you know,

  342. you ever look for counterfeit shoes?

  343. Like, you want some Nikes, but you

  344. settle for some Nikes.

  345. It's like a backward look, like a

  346. backward swish, [laughter]

  347. you know? It's my cheap mind like the

  348. mall. I was like, we're going to find

  349. these bootleg shoes. And finally, I

  350. found something that was like, you know,

  351. like 50% of the way there. You ever like

  352. compromised in your head like I can

  353. settle for this? And I remember my wife

  354. just shaking her head just like

  355. just like embarrassed at me, you know?

  356. And I was like I remember I was like I

  357. think I want these 50% shoes.

  358. And was like not spend money.

  359. >> [laughter]

  360. >> not spend money in that crap.

  361. I was like, "All right, I'll save it for

  362. the real thing." Fine. I'll save it for

  363. the real thing. Well, a couple weeks

  364. later, my good friend from Australia was

  365. flying in from Australia

  366. and I didn't think of anything of him

  367. and he was staying at our house. He

  368. comes and he's like, "Hello, Mike."

  369. [laughter]

  370. That's bad. I'm sorry.

  371. Okay.

  372. Anyway, he he we like prays and he's in

  373. my house and he's opening up his

  374. suitcase and much to my surprise, he

  375. has this box of the shoe box

  376. >> and he says, "Bel, I got this for you."

  377. And it was a shoe. It was 100% handmade.

  378. >> And it was the most expensive pair of

  379. shoes I've ever had. And I put it on, I

  380. was like,

  381. That's the real thing. It was

  382. comfortable. It's going to last a

  383. generation. And

  384. [laughter]

  385. we'll see.

  386. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see.

  387. Um, and I was like, I was so grateful.

  388. Like my heart was so moved. And you know

  389. what's crazy? After that,

  390. I stopped thinking about the counts.

  391. >> I didn't think about it because when you

  392. When you taste the real thing,

  393. >> you become dissatisfied with the kind of

  394. thing.

  395. >> Too much. Too many of us with addictions

  396. have been too satisfied with the

  397. counterfeit.

  398. How do you get out of the counterfeit?

  399. You train yourself on the real.

  400. You train yourself in the real. Okay.

  401. Look, I know there's men here. I'm no

  402. judgment if you're struggling with

  403. pornography, okay? I just want to say

  404. God made sex so amazing with a real

  405. woman.

  406. Sometimes like after Esther and I I just

  407. lay here and I thank God.

  408. Sorry, the kids are the kids gone. It's

  409. not being recorded. That's [laughter]

  410. I'm sorry. Stay here.

  411. Oh, we're going to hear it afterwards.

  412. Sorry.

  413. >> But the truth is real. The real thing is

  414. so good it makes counterfeits look

  415. terrible.

  416. >> They make they make it look as silly as

  417. buying a shoe with a backward switch.

  418. >> You see, God made the world and saw that

  419. it was

  420. >> good.

  421. >> And everything that the devil wants to

  422. get you to do is a counterfeit of the

  423. real good thing that God says. So if

  424. you're struggling here with some

  425. addiction or some compulsive behavior,

  426. I'm going to tell you right now, look

  427. for what the good in God has created.

  428. >> It could be as actually getting a

  429. girlfriend. Okay? It could be actually

  430. going out and joining the mountains,

  431. joining an air. This world is beautiful.

  432. God made it on purpose. Don't don't

  433. settle for counterfeits. Settle for the

  434. real thing. Once you train yourself in

  435. the real, once you go, this is the real

  436. deal. Do you know how easy you know how

  437. easy it is to to confess.

  438. >> See, most people think addiction is

  439. running away from something, but if you

  440. have something to run towards,

  441. >> it's not even a game anymore.

  442. >> Yeah. And Jesus is Jesus is the real

  443. deal, guys.

  444. >> I'm telling you, you're sitting here and

  445. you go, "Man, I tried following God and

  446. I haven't found it yet. That's tastes

  447. better than the counterfeit." I'm going

  448. to tell you right now, 100% guaranteed.

  449. If that's your attitude, I'm going to

  450. tell you right now that you have not

  451. found a gift

  452. >> because whatever God promises is good

  453. and awesome. Every perfect gift gift

  454. comes from the heavenly father's love.

  455. >> That's the that's that's the awesome

  456. part of being a Christian. It is not

  457. boring. It is the most pleasurable and

  458. awesome life.

  459. >> Stop settling for count. Stop settling

  460. for I got to keep this going. Ready?

  461. Okay. Why are you settling? Okay, next

  462. question.

  463. Who are you when you're at your best?

  464. Who are you when you're best? Okay, so

  465. what what I love is Jesus is so he's so

  466. amazing. He's such a great shepherd. He

  467. asks, "What is your name?" Right to the

  468. name, what is your name? And what's

  469. interesting is I I thought about this.

  470. Does Jesus ever ask anybody's name in

  471. the scriptures? I was like, he doesn't.

  472. You know, he knew Nathan before he saw

  473. him in the fig tree. He knew what the

  474. day that he would rise. Okay. And I

  475. thought about I don't think he actually

  476. needs to know his name. He's not asking

  477. if he knows his name. He's asking if we

  478. know our name.

  479. >> Yeah.

  480. We know.

  481. There's a difference between lived

  482. identity, named identity and lived

  483. identity.

  484. Because

  485. Jesus doesn't want to talk about our

  486. behavior. He wants to talk about our

  487. identity

  488. >> because he can correct your behavior but

  489. it's what you think of yourself that

  490. will actually result in what you do.

  491. >> Every time Jesus wants to transform

  492. somebody, he actually transforms them at

  493. the core root level of who you

  494. [clears throat] think they are. And

  495. Jesus wants to transform them. I'm

  496. telling you that any behavioral change

  497. that you need to make today, Jesus

  498. transform who you think you are

  499. underneath

  500. specifically. Now, this is really key

  501. for people that are compulsive behavior.

  502. Specifically, who you think you are when

  503. you are at your worst.

  504. >> I'm about to get real deep. You guys

  505. ready?

  506. >> Yeah.

  507. >> So, when you're when I was at my worst,

  508. you're sitting alone single in the dark

  509. and I think I'm trash monster.

  510. What's interesting is paying attention

  511. to what the devil wants to call me.

  512. Because whatever the devil wants to call

  513. me in that moment, it's the identity

  514. that's binding me to that behavior.

  515. >> I realized that a lot of my behaviors

  516. were tied to the sense of feeling

  517. incompetent,

  518. feeling not powerful, feeling worthless.

  519. And I realized that if I kept believing

  520. that I would continue this, there are so

  521. many I see this out the world. There's

  522. so many alcoholics that I run into when

  523. you look the veneer a little bit

  524. is this belief that I'm worthless,

  525. that my life's not worth redeeming, that

  526. I'm a nobody, nobody can help me. And

  527. it's that underneath the veneer identity

  528. that Jesus needs to change.

  529. You won't climb out of that behavior

  530. unless you climb out of that identity.

  531. >> And as soon as you climb out of that

  532. identity, the behaviors will change. Do

  533. you want to know how to climb out of

  534. that identity? You guys want to know

  535. this? I I figured out the hack.

  536. I did.

  537. I figure out the You guys want to hear

  538. the hack?

  539. >> I realized

  540. who the devil wanted to call me at my

  541. worst

  542. reveals who God sees at my best.

  543. who the devil want to call me at my

  544. worst on the other side of that lie

  545. is who God sees me in my trust.

  546. What I mean by that is

  547. God wanted me to operate from a place of

  548. worthlessness and I thought no at my

  549. very best God sees me as worthy. He

  550. loves me. He died for me. And that's the

  551. identity that he wants me to operate on.

  552. Devil wants to call me a nobody or my

  553. darkness.

  554. I'm famous in heaven.

  555. I'm famous in heaven. You see, you want

  556. to know the hack is figure out what the

  557. devil wants to call you at your worst

  558. and just call yourself the opposite.

  559. Yep. There's a biblical truth there that

  560. he wants he wants to hide from you. He

  561. wants to obscure from you because he can

  562. chain you at your worst and call you

  563. names. you figure out what that name is,

  564. you just laugh at him and go, "Well,

  565. that just means I'm the opposite.

  566. I know your game. I know your game. I

  567. know your game." I'm going to call

  568. myself the opposite because that's what

  569. how heaven sees me. And when I start

  570. declaring I'm a son of God, I have the

  571. spirit of God. I have a spirit of

  572. self-control.

  573. >> I start actually declaring God's truth

  574. over my life. And I start leaning the

  575. power of what he says about me in my

  576. darkest moments. I start living from

  577. from the place of living at my best

  578. identity. That's how God transforms us.

  579. What is your name? Let me ask you this.

  580. When you think about what your worst

  581. behaviors are,

  582. what is your name?

  583. Who does the devil want to call you? And

  584. who does God want to call you instead?

  585. What is your name? All right. Last

  586. question. Ready?

  587. Do you believe you can be free?

  588. Do you believe you can be free? This is

  589. so key. You know what I love about this

  590. passage? It's actually you. Okay, I show

  591. the passage. He gets free, right? He

  592. gets delivered and you remember what the

  593. town does in response. It says they were

  594. afraid.

  595. Isn't that such a strange response?

  596. Like, wouldn't you be like celebrating,

  597. right? just be like it's just like kind

  598. of a weird response, right? He's in his

  599. right mind sitting there and his in his

  600. hometown they were afraid and actually

  601. want Jesus to leave.

  602. You know what I realized the the enemy

  603. of freedom is? This is like so key. You

  604. know what the enemy of freedom is?

  605. What

  606. >> the enemy of freedom is normaly.

  607. The enemy of freedom is sometimes

  608. normaly. They were afraid because they

  609. they were used to the man living in the

  610. cave by himself.

  611. >> Like they were used to it being in

  612. chains. That's how we saw him every day.

  613. And then when he was in his right mind,

  614. they were afraid because like their

  615. normaly was disrupted.

  616. Sometimes in order to be free, we have

  617. to disrupt normaly.

  618. >> How do we get there? This this reminds

  619. me of like how circus elephants are

  620. trained. You know how circus elephants

  621. are trained? It's really sad. They

  622. capture the elephants, right? And they

  623. put a big metal chain around their leg

  624. and they chain that to a pole, like a

  625. metal pole. And at first, elephant

  626. fights, right? Even at their strength,

  627. they fight, they tug, and they fight

  628. with all their hearts. They said they

  629. have to be free. And they pull, but they

  630. can't break the metal chain. And they

  631. can't break the metal pole.

  632. Something happens over time. They start

  633. giving up. They stop trying because they

  634. start being resigned that this is

  635. reality. And you know what's wild? I

  636. don't know if you ever see this in the

  637. pictures of circus. Elephants don't have

  638. metal chains anymore. Instead, you ever

  639. see this? It's just a string.

  640. Ever see this? It's just a string. A

  641. piece of string on the leg has a little

  642. clumsy hole

  643. which they can obviously break. And you

  644. wonder why why don't they why don't they

  645. break it and just go free

  646. because the chain is no longer on their

  647. leg. The chain is in their mind.

  648. Know one of the most sad things about

  649. addiction or compulsive behavior that

  650. your mind is actually changed when you

  651. actually don't actually believe that you

  652. can be free.

  653. In order for Jesus to actually bring us

  654. to freedom, he must break that off our

  655. minds.

  656. >> Some of us are actually too addicted to

  657. normaly that we can't embrace and

  658. experience freedom.

  659. Freedom should be something experienced.

  660. In my transformation, I realized

  661. in my resigned sense self, I said this

  662. is normal. This is what guys do. This is

  663. this is just what happens. And God

  664. You're you're you're addicted to

  665. normaly. You're addicted to status quo.

  666. I want you to be addicted to the

  667. impossible.

  668. >> I want you to be addicted to freedom.

  669. That's what I want you to be thinking

  670. about. I want you to stop living from

  671. this is normal to this is completely

  672. impossible. This is where I want you to

  673. live from Phil. And when you live from

  674. this space,

  675. >> your mind starts to change. You become

  676. like that elephant that realizes there's

  677. no longer a chain around him. He can

  678. actually walk free. This is what needed

  679. to

  680. He actually needed to disrupt normaly.

  681. Even the pressures of social around him

  682. that says this is normal. This is good.

  683. This is what we used to seeing. His

  684. freedom journey required him to break

  685. normaly.

  686. In order to do that, we have to stop

  687. feeding ourselves a normal status quo.

  688. We have to feed our hearts on the

  689. impossible. We have to feed our hearts

  690. on the stories of God's goodness. We

  691. have to feed our hearts on the testimony

  692. of God's provision of God's doing

  693. amazing things. You start feeding your

  694. hearts the impossible. You move from a

  695. place where you just accept normaly to

  696. I'm going to live in the impossible

  697. awesomeness of God.

  698. Is there a string around your mind today

  699. this morning?

  700. This is a real question. Is there a

  701. string around your mind?

  702. There's no breakthrough that can happen

  703. in your life unless you break that

  704. story.

  705. God is looking for

  706. I want you to feed yourself impossible.

  707. I'm going to ask my brother Cliff to

  708. come up. Cliff,

  709. he has an amazing Let's give a hand

  710. [applause]

  711. one of the lions in our church. He's so

  712. amazing. He shared this amazing retreat

  713. uh testimony at our men's retreat and

  714. he's so gracious enough to share a

  715. little bit of story from his own life.

  716. So go for it. All right. Perfect. Yeah.

  717. All right. I'm Clifford Ross. I'm an

  718. alcoholic. Um that's a little jarring to

  719. say in front of everybody considering AA

  720. is anonymous. So everybody

  721. um

  722. >> I was a child of pain. And I think

  723. that's where I mean Phil you touched on

  724. everything and so as a therapist I think

  725. you're going to agree with you 100%.

  726. myself uh as an addict

  727. you you have this pain and you you start

  728. at such a young age and I was a product

  729. of a of a sports in a military household

  730. and that just shaped me into a sense of

  731. normaly that made me believe that I

  732. wasn't good enough or I had high highs

  733. and low lows and that those couldn't be

  734. accepted in modern day society. So what

  735. inevitably ended up happening is I

  736. started coping with that pain. Um

  737. whether it was in sports or whether it

  738. was in alcohol or weed or anything. And

  739. inevitably I ended up choosing alcohol

  740. as my vice. Um and growing up in the

  741. Midwest, it was normal. I mean, I think

  742. it was normal to drink three or four

  743. times a week. It was normal to go to a

  744. party school. It was normal just to be

  745. engulfed in what was me alcoholism. And

  746. so that normaly you you really never got

  747. to break from it. Um and nor was I a

  748. Christian. So I didn't really have that

  749. those people in my life to say, "Hey,

  750. what you're doing is wrong. You don't

  751. know God.

  752. Step this way." And so I think for me

  753. it's

  754. when you get an AA, you get a sobriety

  755. date. It's called a birthday. Um and my

  756. birthday is May 6, which means cod was a

  757. great day.

  758. four years ago. And but really what

  759. happened is I became a Christian

  760. [clears throat]

  761. six years ago. So there was that

  762. two-year gap where I was a Christian,

  763. but yet I was still abusing alcohol. And

  764. it wasn't so much of a of a physical

  765. abuse. It was more so of I was abusing

  766. it emotionally and mentally that I had

  767. these really high highs and these really

  768. low lows and I couldn't, you know what I

  769. mean, understand them. And so therefore,

  770. I turned to alcohol. Um, and the word

  771. that like spoke to me was spiritual

  772. progression and how like yes, I was in a

  773. men's group like right off the bat and I

  774. was reading the Bible, but yet I just

  775. didn't know the Lord. Um, and inevitably

  776. it became I was serving alcohol. Alcohol

  777. was my God. Um, and that's you really

  778. scary to say when it came down to it. I

  779. was being a better engineer for alcohol

  780. because if I was a great engineer, no

  781. one knew I had a problem. Or I would be

  782. in the gym because I looked, you know

  783. what I mean, physically fit, but yet no

  784. one knew I had a problem because

  785. alcoholics don't look fit. Alcoholics

  786. don't look fit. Um, and so I was hiding

  787. who I was. I'm hiding this person behind

  788. a closed door and I would have these

  789. like reset days where I would like just

  790. take a week a month of just high highs

  791. and low lows and I would just be like

  792. all right I'm going to have a reset day

  793. and that is like I'm going to go to the

  794. bar. I'm going to have a drink and it's

  795. just going to reset everything. Um

  796. [snorts] that was my god. Alcohol was my

  797. god. It gave me that freedom from what I

  798. was looking for. And I think what was so

  799. scary in that is that yes, I was a

  800. Christian and I saw these such powerful

  801. people

  802. just getting saved and healed and like

  803. here I am being like, "All right, I'm in

  804. the men's group. I'm reading the Bible.

  805. Everything's good, but yet I am just so

  806. lost." And so I think as spiritual

  807. progression and James, I shared this on

  808. Thursday, but like draw near to God as

  809. he will draw near to you.

  810. >> And so at the end of the day, it's like

  811. if you put your both feet in and say,

  812. I'm going to draw near to you, he's

  813. going to draw uh near to us. And I think

  814. >> yeah,

  815. >> what like inevitably what I'm trying to

  816. say is like you touched it on this is

  817. like why are you settling? And I think

  818. for me is the the price to change was

  819. too costly.

  820. And as I knew God and I knew Jesus, he

  821. had already paid that price.

  822. >> And so like no matter what that price

  823. has been paid, he will lay down. He has

  824. laid down his life. He will continue to

  825. lay down his life. And that no matter

  826. what you think is going to be like your

  827. rock bottom, it will get worse. And I

  828. mean that in the best way possible

  829. because Jesus will search your heart and

  830. not just be like, "Okay, alcohol is your

  831. problem." He's going to search your

  832. heart and then find everything else

  833. inside of it. Because if you turn to

  834. alcohol, what you were saying, that's

  835. one. But then you get rid of alcohol,

  836. he's going to the devil's going to find

  837. another one. And you're going to go down

  838. that list, whether it's your phone,

  839. weed, alcohol, just anything. The devil

  840. does not want you to get close to him.

  841. So, he's going to try every single thing

  842. in his power to keep you away. So, Jesus

  843. is going to search your heart. You're

  844. going to go down that list. It's going

  845. to get real dark, but then you're just

  846. going to walk in a light. And I think

  847. for me, it's like when you walk in that

  848. light, and I have been for at least four

  849. years, for sure. Four years, hopefully a

  850. little bit longer. But it was funny on

  851. Thursday. It's like when you walk every

  852. day, you forget the transformation

  853. >> just because you, you know what I mean?

  854. day over day over day over day you see

  855. that 1% and I didn't it's funny my

  856. Instagram has photos of me like as an

  857. alcoholic

  858. >> and I showed Jeremiah the photo of me

  859. and he's like you look completely

  860. different and so for me it was nice to

  861. hear that like I feel it in my heart but

  862. like physically I also feel different so

  863. I think what I just want to end on and

  864. what Phil touched so like incredibly on

  865. is that like

  866. put both feet in to like today's the

  867. day. Put both feet in. It's going to get

  868. a little scary. Buckle your seat belt

  869. and just hold on because at the end of

  870. the day, knowing the Lord, knowing who

  871. he is, allowing him to get clo the

  872. pursuit of holiness is the closest of

  873. the Lord in your heart. So if you pursue

  874. him, he will find you because he already

  875. knows you. So just let him

  876. >> let him into your heart. So thank you

  877. [applause]

  878. >> [applause]

  879. >> the worship comes.

  880. Are you [clears throat] ready?

  881. Do you know why you are the way you are?

  882. Why are you so

  883. who are you?

  884. Do you believe in

  885. I can't help but wonder if I was asking

  886. you one of these questions.

  887. Let's Can we stand and

  888. Do this.