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EP 47: Front Porch Housing - Celebrating Nonprofit Launch

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  1. Life is hard. Life is hard for us all.

  2. But we all, everyone sitting here has that individual to

  3. call. If you have a dead battery, if

  4. your kid is sick and can't go to child care, but you still have

  5. to go to work, If you're going to buy a car, you have somebody

  6. even call and say, hey, can I go to the buy here, pay here and

  7. get a 30% loan? Is that a good idea?

  8. And they're going to tell you, no, we all have that.

  9. And the volunteers coming alongside the residents to be

  10. able to create that new community, healthy community so

  11. that in that two to three-year period when it's time to say,

  12. hey, I love you, but you got to go.

  13. Our residents are able to do that and they're do it

  14. confidently because they have the community front porch.

  15. I hope I'm without a job. I say that every day I walk

  16. through is I don't want there to be neat and I'd prefer not to

  17. work any longer. So if we could figure out a

  18. solution, the community is what that solution is.

  19. It's working through that. It's giving them a safe

  20. environment. It's giving people to call that

  21. they know are going to care for them in the long run.

  22. Hey everyone, and welcome back to a special edition of the

  23. Grace Church Members Podcast. We recently sat down with some

  24. of our community leaders to talk about a few exciting updates at

  25. Front Porch Housing. If you would like to watch a

  26. video of this conversation, click the link in the show

  27. notes. As you're listening, we

  28. encourage you to share this episode with someone that you

  29. think should know about Front Porch Housing to help them

  30. expand their systems of support. Thanks for listening and I hope

  31. you enjoy this conversation as much as we did.

  32. Well, hello, my name is Scott and I'm your host for this

  33. conversation. Today we're talking about Front

  34. Porch Housing and we are getting an update and specifically

  35. celebrating some things that are going on as they approach their

  36. third year anniversary. Specifically though, we also

  37. want to talk about the role that community relationships are

  38. playing to the vital success of Front Porch Housing.

  39. And so I have three friends with me today.

  40. I have Jennifer Bryant and Mike, and I'm going to let them

  41. introduce themselves. So hey, Jennifer, thanks for

  42. being here. Thanks for having me.

  43. Tell us a little bit about your you and what you do here.

  44. Sure. So my name is Jennifer Dill and

  45. I'm the Care, Recovery and Outreach Director at Grace

  46. Church and also have various involvement with the funeral

  47. bereavement coordination as well.

  48. And specifically you work with Front Porch?

  49. How? Yes.

  50. So Front Porch is one of our community relationships that we

  51. are trying to continue to to Foster and connect with.

  52. And as you'll hear front porch housing was started at Grace

  53. Church and now they are their own entity.

  54. And so we are excited to see how we can continue to be connected

  55. and have a growing relationship as not only they grow, but Grace

  56. Church grows as well. That's awesome.

  57. All right, Brian, what about you?

  58. What do you do? Yeah.

  59. I'm Brian Burgess. I'm the director over at Front

  60. Porch Housing, which means I usually get the phone calls when

  61. something's not going right. But really, I'm there for the

  62. overall health and well-being of our participants, our other

  63. organizations that are coming in and helping us out, and the

  64. organization itself. Front Porch.

  65. Yeah. And you've been in that role for

  66. how long? So I've been in that role about

  67. three years now. OK.

  68. And currently oversee a staff of.

  69. Currently overseeing a staff of about 22 account that are caring

  70. for residents at front. Porch and how many residents?

  71. So underneath our front porch umbrella, which is direct care,

  72. we have about 118 adults, We have their dependents which puts

  73. about another 100 kids in that. And then overall on the

  74. property, we are just shy of 400 image bearers that are there

  75. front porch. Wow, awesome.

  76. Why don't you introduce this to Mike?

  77. Yeah, this is Mike. Mike is with Newspring.

  78. He's one of our relational partners.

  79. And Mike, go ahead. Yeah, I'm a pastor at New Spring

  80. Church, been on staff 11 years and I've been in a variety of

  81. our campuses in the Upstate from Powdersville to Clemson to

  82. Greenville currently and love building the church and trying

  83. to fulfill the Great Commission with like minded churches and

  84. organizations, which is I think why I'm here today.

  85. Yeah. And for those that may not be

  86. familiar, you were like directly right across, you're right

  87. across the. Street, yes, we are as close as

  88. you can be. If if we were any closer, we

  89. wouldn't be neighbors, we would be family members, I guess in

  90. the same household virtually right across Pleasantburg.

  91. That's been great to see all that grow and develop

  92. unexpectedly even as we've still a relatively new organization

  93. front porches 3 years. You alluded to this, Jennifer,

  94. but take us through either you or Brian kind of how Front Porch

  95. came to be and then how it launched into its own nonprofit.

  96. Sure. I think it's so it, it's all

  97. started with one lady from our congregation that she was, you

  98. know, moving towards the church and really experiencing a lot of

  99. life change. And as if she was experiencing

  100. that life change, she was trying to actually make physical

  101. changes around her location. And that included housing.

  102. And so she was running up against a lot of barriers to

  103. find housing that she could afford that also was safe and an

  104. environment that could be, you know, willing to help her in her

  105. recovery. And so a lot of factors and a

  106. lot of things went into into place.

  107. And so Grace Church started with a corporate lease with a local

  108. apartment complex to help this individual experience even more

  109. recovery with her walk in Christ.

  110. And there's just a lot, lot more details involved about how that

  111. grew. And at the same time, you know,

  112. it's just so neat to see that Grace Church just took the night

  113. next step, wherever that meant. So that could be just looking up

  114. an apartment complex, looking at the rent cost, just taking that

  115. next right step to help this one individual.

  116. Well, when that one individual we got her settled, the

  117. floodgates kind of open for lots of individuals who were looking

  118. for supportive housing. Yeah, who had the same type of

  119. economic need in a tough housing market.

  120. And what strikes me as this was 3 plus years ago and it's it's

  121. only gotten worse over the last three years.

  122. Yeah, that language of it started with one.

  123. I I love that. And so taking the the next step

  124. it it grows the opportunity to then purchase property at

  125. Greenville Tech comes a real viable option.

  126. Brian, is that when you kind of enter into the story?

  127. Yeah. So I enter in just after the

  128. purchase of the old Greenville Tech dorm rooms off of

  129. Pleasantburg and Cleveland Street.

  130. At that point, we were coming out of I think there was 48

  131. corporate leases. That were so started with one

  132. they are grew to 48, yeah OK, so 48 we got to make some different

  133. decisions. 48, financially scaling, yeah, we were scaling

  134. really quickly, yeah. At 48 it made sense to look at

  135. what are, what's the next phase because you, you have the

  136. financial wherewithal at this point.

  137. So they became available in May of 22, the property was closed

  138. on and at that same time front porch housing rolled out.

  139. No longer Grace Church housing. It became its own. 5O1C3 with a

  140. whole lot of support Grace. And So what what have been some

  141. of those benefits of it coming out from underneath the the

  142. church as a almost like a ascending organization if you

  143. use missional terms. So it's his own nonprofit.

  144. How's that helped any any difficulties or challenges that

  145. have come with that? Yeah, I there's, there's a lot

  146. of bonuses that come to it and a lot of challenges that come to

  147. it. So we have been able to create

  148. other relationships with other church organizations that are

  149. willing to, to step in. We know that we have to have

  150. community buy in in order to, to be viable in the long term.

  151. Grace has been an amazing partner for us and continues to

  152. be. But we we know the scalability

  153. from 48 to an apartment complex that has 120 units with the

  154. ability to continue to grow with a plan to to move throughout the

  155. Upstate over the next 5 or 6 years.

  156. We needed those other relationships in there.

  157. Yeah. So talk about either one of you,

  158. about a few of the different services as far as either, you

  159. know, kind of wrap around services or types of holistic

  160. care that Front Porch offers that makes these community

  161. relationships so important. Yeah.

  162. So with Front Porch, we took a, we took a lot of what Grace had

  163. already established through classes.

  164. So Regen is one of those that everyone kind of goes through

  165. that and they're out in the community.

  166. We don't host that on site, but we have great partners that are

  167. able to to bring our folks into there.

  168. We took Money Matters, which is a grace program and adapted it

  169. to a poverty mindset for our folks and now allow a lot of our

  170. relations to be able to step into that.

  171. So using partner organizations or other churches to to bring

  172. financial coaches in now we're going to walk with our residents

  173. for the next two to three years in a financial standpoint.

  174. Yeah, because it's important. I mean you mentioned having 20

  175. staff, but twenty staff cannot provide the wrap around services

  176. for 400 image bearers, right? So if you don't have volunteers,

  177. you don't have ministry, right? Absolutely.

  178. I think we average right now about 80 hours a week in just

  179. maintenance volunteers. OK, we have 120 apartments.

  180. That's 120 houses. Yeah, that's more toilets than

  181. anybody wants to unclog. So the hours in just

  182. maintenance. In maintenance, yeah.

  183. In maintenance any. Idea on what the kind of the

  184. relational component is over the course of any given day at that.

  185. Point it'll completely change. She never know what you're what

  186. you're going to walk into. But one of my favorite stories

  187. that I always go back to is we have a resident who has been

  188. trafficked for a large portion of her life, 30 plus years.

  189. So trusting men is not what she does, but through the

  190. relationships built through the men that are volunteering in

  191. maintenance, through the men that have been placed in

  192. leadership capacities throughout Front Porch, She is, she sent a

  193. text message over to Leanne and said, hey, I just want you to

  194. know that my thought of men has changed.

  195. And so that is something that is completely unintentional and

  196. it's done by volunteers who their goal is to just come in

  197. and surf. Yeah.

  198. And they don't know they're doing this back end work right

  199. at the same time. Yeah, 'cause they're, you're

  200. just asking them to be who they are.

  201. You're not asking them to change for an audience for a resident.

  202. You're just asking them to bring whatever gifts and talents got

  203. is gifted them with and just be willing to be present.

  204. Correct. So then when we have such, you

  205. know, great community engagement, number of different

  206. entities, you know, we've got new spring right across the

  207. street. How did you get connected with

  208. with Mike? So with MM coming in four or

  209. five months ago, yeah, we had a resident that was coming through

  210. new spring and we we started the conversation there with him and

  211. I. They also have surveys that

  212. they've come into front por yeah, I think three years now in

  213. a row, but they've they've entered into some surveys there.

  214. And so that relationship has started and we're really trying

  215. to to build that. We do have some residents that

  216. do attend through spring. We have some staff members that

  217. are that's awesome right up the road.

  218. So that's been a a great, great partnership there.

  219. Yeah. So, so Mike, what's been your

  220. experience as you come over to to Front Porch for the first

  221. time? And then how has that grown over

  222. the last? We are always looking for like

  223. minded organizations out in the community to to do ministry

  224. alongside of. We all have the same focus,

  225. right? We're Christ centered and we

  226. know that sin causes a barrier and relationship fracture

  227. between US and God. But it's not only us and God,

  228. it's us and other people. It's us in creation and it's us

  229. and ourselves. And what I've really grown to

  230. appreciate about Front Porch is the way that it truly is.

  231. You say wrap around care, a holistic approach because

  232. sometimes we can be so passionate about meeting a

  233. particular need that we miss the bigger need.

  234. And I'd say the gospel centric approach and the fact that

  235. organizations that are trustworthy and integris that

  236. are, that are truly trying to reach people for the gospel and

  237. doing it alongside other churches allows us to focus on

  238. what only we can do, which is discipleship and evangelism and

  239. helping people use the word image bearer.

  240. We're made in the image of God, but being formed into the image

  241. of Christ and we can have the trust that there are just some

  242. things that the church, if we try to meet every need, we're

  243. not going to meet any need. And you know, there are very

  244. specific things that Front Porch is equipped to do in resourcing

  245. clients and image bearers to go from A to B, and it just works

  246. really well in concert. Yeah.

  247. So what are some of those pathways that you've really seen

  248. traction with members of Newspring getting involved at

  249. front? Yeah, You know, for example, I

  250. met a guy a few months ago who was serving on one of our teams.

  251. He had recently gone through a divorce, had some had had some

  252. history of substance abuse that had some real ramifications

  253. currently. So what Front Porch was able to

  254. do, he's joined a discipleship group at New Spring in addition

  255. to the serving team. He's been a resident at Front

  256. Porch for several months. He's going through some of the

  257. classes, some of the financial classes, going through Regen.

  258. And these conversations and journeys are not without bumps

  259. in the road, but I can see an upward trajectory and the fact

  260. that it's helping resource him to go from point A to point B

  261. and doing these things with his interactions and him being able

  262. to live at Front Porch for the time being and being a part of

  263. our church community, we are seeing him take steps forward

  264. because he's got a plan and he is taking one step at a time

  265. into that plan. It's not a hand out, but a hand

  266. up. Yeah, that's amazing.

  267. So that's a very intimate expression where you have a, a

  268. member of the church who he's involved in discipleship

  269. oriented ministry at the church and then he's got the support of

  270. the community. That's like best case scenario.

  271. How have you seen some individuals that are getting

  272. plugged in on a service level by there?

  273. It's through a serve day or something else.

  274. How what are some of those, what are some of those pathways?

  275. And then what are some of the stories that you're hearing from

  276. people who are meeting these new neighbors?

  277. Yeah. So for one, we as a church,

  278. through a number of situations over the last several years have

  279. really felt like we needed to be tithing on the tide.

  280. So we give away 10% of everything that comes in at New

  281. Springs and we try to be discerning with with where that

  282. goes. And we have been sharing ever

  283. since. Really, Front Porch came on the

  284. scene. The relationship preceded me and

  285. Lord willing, it will outlive me because we're all temporary in

  286. our roles. But until Jesus comes back,

  287. we're all like minded and trying to bring the gospel forward and

  288. help people become more and more like Jesus.

  289. So we have shared with our people, hey, if you give you're

  290. a part of what's happening here because we're resourcing

  291. organizations in the community and our serve days are an

  292. opportunity for our people to get their hands and feet

  293. involved as well as their pocketbooks and that grows a

  294. heart. Yeah.

  295. Tell us what those look like. How often do you do those?

  296. Yeah. So we have a yearly serve day

  297. that all of our campuses do that really allows us to leverage the

  298. the air war of communication. And our hope is always that

  299. these are opportunities for our people to hear a little bit more

  300. about the organization when they go in.

  301. And we've seen several people take opportunities to serve

  302. either on a weekly or a monthly or in a consistent basis or even

  303. like there's the three-year anniversary event that's coming

  304. up that our worship leader, Malik is going to be able to

  305. lead worship that. And it's just great to be able

  306. to meet needs like that in a mutual in a mutual way.

  307. There's a book that I, I wouldn't say changed my mindset,

  308. but poured gas on it called Rooting for Rivals that some of

  309. y'all may have read. But the idea is not that we're

  310. competing for different pieces of the pyre resources, but we

  311. all want to expand the number of resources coming into the

  312. Kingdom. And as that pie grows, it's not

  313. about the size of the individual piece, but it's about getting

  314. more resources into the Kingdom. And what Jesus said that his

  315. people would be recognized by their unity, right?

  316. Oh, that's great. So how do you, Brian, kind of

  317. take that mindset and try to share it with other community

  318. relations to get them kind of involved?

  319. Yeah, we have. Obviously, we're blessed with

  320. the property that we have and we have tried to partner well with

  321. other organizations that are doing good work.

  322. We, we know that we're not a solution for everything, but

  323. there are a lot of folks out there that are doing, doing the

  324. work that we need to tap into. So folks like Jasmine Road and

  325. Miracle Hills, Serenity Place, overcomers, they're not just a a

  326. pipeline for us bringing in residents, but other resources

  327. because I think right now, since September, we've had over 700

  328. applications come in. Wait, so since September?

  329. September of 20. Fourth.

  330. Yeah, just a little later. Six months.

  331. We have had over 700 applications come across our our

  332. door and we're at capacity. So that's a lot of resources, a

  333. lot of folks that need resources out there.

  334. So our goal is to build as many communities partners as we can

  335. and then get folks connected to those as we go.

  336. Yeah, because thank the Lord that there's 400 people that are

  337. somehow, you know, cared for in this way in this moment.

  338. But it's really just kind of a drop in the bucket into into the

  339. need. So what you're saying is through

  340. modeling a care, hopefully there is inspiration, encouragement

  341. and maybe providing strength for other organizations also just to

  342. step in and do similar things or to do it to their strength.

  343. So is there, so what's the plan? Is there a plan for our housing

  344. to maybe multiply front porch housing and other areas other

  345. parts of the upstate? Yeah, I mean, Lord willing and

  346. the finances come in. Sure.

  347. Yeah, we, we would like to. I mean, if you're, if you're

  348. looking at the long term plan front porch, Yeah.

  349. Ideally we would like to be able to get into Spartanburg and

  350. Anderson and do something similar to what we what we have.

  351. I don't want to own another property.

  352. I prefer not to, but we really want to be able to take the

  353. programming, take the housing component, take the.

  354. The community relation aspect of that, take it to those

  355. communities and build upon what we're seeing happening in

  356. Greenville. So in order to do that again,

  357. you got to have the the volunteer base, you got to have

  358. financial buy in Mike, when you when you see folks that maybe

  359. come over across the street, walk in the front porch, sit

  360. down with a resident, maybe it's in the coffee shop, maybe it's

  361. through a serve day. Do you see some changes and how

  362. they began to think about the the housing crisis in the

  363. Upstate and like, do you see like them being drawn more to

  364. this type of ministry? Yeah, absolutely.

  365. I feel like when we people come in and have immediate needs,

  366. right? And I've, I've, I've seen

  367. historically, even in the in the church setting that we have a

  368. desire to meet those needs. And if we're not careful, all we

  369. all we may do out of a heart to serve people and a heart to help

  370. them is very candidly provide hotels for a week or an extended

  371. stay. And the the latter condition of

  372. the person is worse than the first because we didn't address

  373. the true need. And I feel like because front

  374. porch approaches people with compassion, because we can

  375. approach people with compassion want to see them.

  376. Biblical hospitality is not putting on a pink apron and

  377. pulling out of the oven. It's moving towards people and

  378. seeing more potential in them than they see in themselves and

  379. taking risks. And those risks have a reward.

  380. Because on the other side, people feel loved.

  381. And when they feel the love of a Christian, often times it's the

  382. greatest advocacy for the love of their Lord and Savior.

  383. So that's right, I see front porch changing lives because of

  384. the Christ centeredness of it and regardless of what people

  385. are looking for makes me think we're doing a year of the Bible

  386. right now. We're just reading through the

  387. feeding the 5000. It says Jesus looked on them

  388. with compassion and So what did he do?

  389. The first thing he didn't do was feed them.

  390. He opened his mouth and spoke. People need God's Word more than

  391. anything else, but they need resources to come alongside them

  392. as well. So certainly we've seen change

  393. because of the way that people feel others moving towards them

  394. in their time of need. But it doesn't stop with that.

  395. It's bringing in the gospel as well.

  396. Yeah, one of my favorite sayings is that we often see people as

  397. problems in in the negative light.

  398. We see them as performers in the positive when they can do.

  399. And what we don't see is we don't see the person, you know.

  400. And so I really feel like front porch is modelled.

  401. Let's see the person, not labeled them as a problem and

  402. not give them a few things so that they can perform better.

  403. But how do we really kind of see them as image bearers, put

  404. resources around them and care for them over a period of time?

  405. I mean this is a multi year process right?

  406. Right. So we're we're A2 to three-year

  407. process. Usually you find that first year

  408. you're just building trust. There's a lot of wounds and

  409. trauma that I totally get that they don't trust us by year

  410. three. I mean, the room we're sitting

  411. in, just two months ago, we had multiple baptisms of folks that

  412. would have never that when they entered into the program.

  413. And that's ultimately because we're looking at the person in

  414. front of us. Yeah, we're looking at their

  415. individual needs. We are celebrating the small

  416. movement that they make. And it may not be at the same

  417. standard that we would say, hey, this is our standard for for

  418. movement. Yeah.

  419. But if it's something they've never done in their life, hey, I

  420. opened a bank account for the first time.

  421. Yeah. Perfect.

  422. Like that's all I can ask for. You know, I went to I went to a

  423. Bible study for the first time. Great.

  424. That like those are the things that we celebrate because those

  425. small little minor movements over an extended period of time

  426. lead to success. And that's what our focus.

  427. Is so Jennifer putting on your kind of Grace Church hat?

  428. Have you seen a similar experience of our members really

  429. growing and their lives changing as they've gotten involved with

  430. residents specifically? I think about what Brian said,

  431. we, we tend to run at such a fast pace that having to, to

  432. slow down to and, and not make the residents our wins, the

  433. residents wins or vice versa, but just meet people where

  434. they're at. Have you have you seen examples

  435. of that? Absolutely.

  436. I know when we first got involved, at least I can speak

  437. from the care and recovery side. So we did a lot of connecting

  438. through providing support groups, such as classes for

  439. those who are grieving or divorce or single parents,

  440. things like that. And I remember we had two ladies

  441. who led a grief group over at Front Porch and a couple of the

  442. the gentleman that came in. At first they were maybe not as

  443. talkative or on paper probably the two worlds would have never

  444. collided. But by the end of the 13 weeks,

  445. the 2 ladies who were leading the group, who are members of

  446. Grace, the two guys were their favorite participants, I guess

  447. you could say, because they really learned how to be

  448. vulnerable and to open up about things that we would probably

  449. just tell are, you know, a girlfriend or a guy friend.

  450. They didn't have those the, that pathway to develop or community

  451. around them. And so now they've kind of still

  452. tried to keep in touch and those two ladies have led other groups

  453. for us at front Porch and they're like, we just as long as

  454. those two guys can be in our group, then that would be then

  455. that would be great. You know, and in every group

  456. because mostly because they learn to have community and

  457. learn to model what it means to have connection.

  458. And so it's just been, it's just been really neat not only to see

  459. Grace Church kind of get have a community relationship with

  460. Front Porch, but also to see that a lot of these residents

  461. and folks at Front Porch have very different backgrounds, so

  462. very different denominations that they come from.

  463. And you know, we always say it Grace, Grace Church is not in

  464. the Bible, but the local church is.

  465. And to not have just Grace Church see the folks at at Front

  466. Porch, but to have the church see them and hear them and to

  467. want to move towards them. So I think that's been a big win

  468. as well that the church is seeing me and not just Grace

  469. Church. If that makes.

  470. No, it totally does. Brian, I want you to speak to

  471. some of the kind of business opportunities because I think

  472. about, you know, you've got 2 churches sitting here with

  473. thousands of members, you know, who are following Jesus and, and

  474. they're coming to serve days and they're getting involved

  475. relationally, but they're also sitting with folks in the

  476. cubicles in the office space working out in the field,

  477. believers and non believers alike that do care for our

  478. community. What's your message to them as

  479. far as let's just say they're involved, but they don't know

  480. how to get their their friend involved or they don't know how

  481. to get their workplace maybe awareness and involved.

  482. What's what's our pitch to those folks?

  483. Man, it's really just starting the conversation.

  484. We are willing to step in to those conversations.

  485. I mean, you can e-mail me if I'm on the website and, and say,

  486. hey, we have this organization that I just, they really need to

  487. know about you and we can start those conversations.

  488. We have work organizations that are out there that have

  489. established every Thursday they're sending volunteers out

  490. OK throughout their organization.

  491. So the the folks get to volunteer and sign up for it and

  492. they're 100% supporting the their employee leaving for that

  493. show. And are they coming?

  494. Are they working on the grounds or is they?

  495. It depends on the projects, right?

  496. So they have established that they want to stay more in the

  497. technical field. So it'll be from doing some,

  498. some maintenance, they helped build out our new clothing

  499. closets that we, we've established to doing a full week

  500. of camp for our front porch kids during the summer.

  501. They did a day of STEM activities with our kids during

  502. a spring break camp. So there are a lot of different

  503. ways to get involved. We take out all the skill sets,

  504. right? And even the ones that don't

  505. have skill, we'll bring you in too.

  506. But we just want the people to to step on the front porch's

  507. property, hear the story, become engaged, because that's really

  508. where it changes come in. Doing a tour, you'd love to be

  509. able to, to walk you through the playground to the library, to

  510. the new child development center.

  511. We're building out to show an apartment so you can see where

  512. people are living with dignity and walking through all of.

  513. That yeah, I, I, that's, I'm so glad you said that.

  514. I mean, come take a tour, be a part of what's going on.

  515. It is one of those things that you don't we can talk about it,

  516. but unless you come experience it and if you came a year ago or

  517. two years ago, things are always changing.

  518. Things are always developing, things are always growing,

  519. particularly because of some of the involvement from these

  520. different community organizations.

  521. All right. Well, as we wrap up, just

  522. thinking about the future and what are what are some of the

  523. needs, most pressing needs and how can we be praying for Front

  524. Porch? Two good questions.

  525. Most pressure, precious needs for us and pressing needs to

  526. speak English is finances right? Monthly donors, people that are

  527. willing to support so that we have the ability to plan and

  528. process through our care. I mean just our counseling

  529. services alone, we're predicting to be over $100,000 that we are

  530. spending for counseling services for our residents.

  531. And that number as we increase our resident count is going to

  532. just keep on climbing. So that number was based off of

  533. about 85 residents. We're at 118.

  534. Yeah. And let's pause for a second.

  535. I mean, you talk about counseling services, medical

  536. care, child care. I mean, these are things that

  537. are you not unique to front porch residents.

  538. And so if you're out there and you benefit from medical care,

  539. consistent medical care from child care, we know how

  540. expensive that is from counseling services.

  541. You know, we all need friends in our lives who are specialist,

  542. who can, who can help us go to places that are are difficult

  543. and need healing. Why not the same for our

  544. residents? But those do come at a cost.

  545. So, and as you're just scratching the surface, those

  546. are just three entities that I just thought of.

  547. And you don't have to give a lot of money.

  548. We have a lot of people in the Upstate.

  549. If a lot of people gave a little bit of money on a recurring

  550. basis, that would make a huge, huge difference.

  551. Yeah, it's a major impact to what we're trying to do and the

  552. ability to plan going forward. You know, we're entering into

  553. building out a dental clinic right to again, step into the

  554. need when we have dental volunteers being able to come

  555. in, giving them a safe place to be able to practice working out

  556. a partnership with on secor and bringing in a nurse practitioner

  557. on site right to to help with that healthcare.

  558. We have a volunteer crew called the side garage that is there

  559. guys giving away time working on cars and the preventative

  560. maintenance that they're able to do is is amazing so that our

  561. residents can still get to and from their jobs to the grocery

  562. store. Transportation is a major issue

  563. and the closest grocery store to us is 1.5 miles away.

  564. Publix, Publix, so you are running a 5K to get your

  565. groceries. I don't run a 5K.

  566. So those are the things that that we really are are pressing

  567. on an everyday basis. That's not kind of any other

  568. emergencies popping up. We are working on education

  569. scholarships for folks throughout our program.

  570. Over the past three years, I think we've had 12 individuals

  571. be able to get their GED. So it's making room for them to

  572. be able to do those things and a GED currently I think is 3 to

  573. $4.00 an hour more in their their earned income over that

  574. over that time time. So you have a lot of volunteers

  575. who are helping lower the cost of some of these services,

  576. counseling services, medical, dental, but there still comes at

  577. a cost. And so really we're just asking

  578. particularly for some financial support to be able to do that

  579. along with the volunteering and the specialty to be able to

  580. continue and put both of those 22 ideas together.

  581. Yeah, I mean, I know you could probably talk forever about that

  582. because you you're in it every single day.

  583. And we do want to keep the standard of care excellent and

  584. even grow that standard of care thinking as we shift to some of

  585. the volunteer opportunities. Anything specifically coming to

  586. mind there? Child care, child care is one of

  587. the major things I think the vast majority of our folks have

  588. to go about 20 miles South in order to get child care.

  589. All right. And then with us attempted to

  590. launch and and get certified for a child development center.

  591. That'll be child care during the day.

  592. We still have classes, spring break, summer camp where we need

  593. volunteers to be able to not babysit and not child care.

  594. We use that as a loose term, but it's a discipleship opportunity

  595. for the next generation that we are trying to help as well.

  596. So it is that that's a major pressing issue for us.

  597. Always our maintenance side. We we are about to have like a

  598. truly blessing for us because we've three years in this

  599. facility. That means we have about 28

  600. graduations coming up in the next 6 months.

  601. So that will be a big Press of residents leaving, but then a

  602. big influx of residents coming in.

  603. So maintenance is going to be one of those things, whether

  604. it's just coming in and painting units to helping just move and

  605. and turn over in that aspect of it.

  606. I'm getting things from our warehouse location onto our

  607. property. Those are going to be some

  608. major, major needs coming. OK, so I want you to reflect on

  609. this for just a 2nd 20, I didn't realize this 28 graduations

  610. because it has been three years and we're talking about a multi

  611. two to three-year residential process.

  612. So take a second, think about a couple of those names and faces

  613. of these graduates. What have you really learned

  614. over the last three years? Yeah, it's life is hard.

  615. Life is hard for us all, but we all, everyone sitting here has

  616. that individual to call. If you have a dead battery, if

  617. your kid is sick and can't go to child care, but you still have

  618. to go to work, If you're going to buy a car, you have somebody

  619. you can call and say, hey, can I go to the buy here, pay here and

  620. get a 30% loan? Is that a good idea?

  621. And they're going to tell you, no, we all have that.

  622. And the volunteers coming alongside the residents to be

  623. able to create that new community, healthy community so

  624. that in that two to three-year period when it's time to say,

  625. hey, I love you, but you got to go.

  626. Our residents are able to do that and they're do it

  627. confidently because they have the community front porch.

  628. I hope I'm without a job. I say that everyday I walk

  629. through is I don't want there to be neat and I'd prefer not to

  630. work any longer. So if we can figure out a

  631. solution, the community is what that solution is.

  632. It's working through that. It's giving them a safe

  633. environment. It's giving people to call that

  634. they know are going to care for them in the long run.

  635. And we have seen that from day one of residents moving in that

  636. have zero trust for not just us as an organization or

  637. individuals to I mean, I got an e-mail today of, hey, can you go

  638. over this assignment for me? Because this lady didn't have a

  639. GED and now is in college and finishing up and needs me to

  640. proofread a paper going in, right?

  641. Who never would have trusted me in the 1st place.

  642. So you have moments like that. You have our the going back to

  643. the guys that work on the cars normally, normally our residents

  644. are used to transactional relationships where I give you

  645. something, you give me something, these guys come in

  646. and and do a repair on a car and just like, hey, thanks, you have

  647. a good day, right? It's that sense of community

  648. that has helped all of these residents move forward and then

  649. continue to succeed because right now we're at I think 33

  650. graduates prior to prior to this year and that's where we see the

  651. success rate is that ongoing continued support for community.

  652. And through Front Porch, we're inviting them back.

  653. So our quarterly meetings are getting bigger and bigger every

  654. year because we're inviting the graduates back, We're inviting

  655. those supporters back. We're inviting in our other

  656. relationships to to come in and pour into our individual, our

  657. folks, just so that they they have that opportunity to

  658. succeed. And Mike, as you're looking out,

  659. you know, kind of picturing the faces of your congregation on

  660. the Sunday morning and you're wanting them to go get involved

  661. in opportunities like Front Porch.

  662. What's your what's your prayer for those folks?

  663. That they would find a way to use the spiritual gifts they've

  664. been given, you know, First Corinthians is very clear.

  665. Those were not given for just flourishment in your own

  666. personal life, but to build the Kingdom within and beyond the

  667. walls that they would discover and use their gifts.

  668. You know, I talked about our yearly serve days, but one of

  669. the things we put forward to people in our Connect classes,

  670. which happen every month, are opportunities to serve within

  671. and beyond the church. And so there are monthly

  672. opportunities where people are hearing about Front Porch and

  673. other organizations in the community that they can they can

  674. serve with. And I feel like also the

  675. fundamental recognition you touched on this, but none of us

  676. are self-made people. Those of us that are in a stable

  677. situation are products of either our parents or extended family

  678. or friends. And I love what you said about

  679. community because that is what each of us need.

  680. How much do I take for granted that, you know, situations I was

  681. in 20 years ago that my mom or dad or a close friend just

  682. helped out with? They kept me from getting in a

  683. difficult situation. Those of us who have been

  684. supported have a responsibility to to help others.

  685. And what Jesus said the greatest of among you will be your

  686. servants. He constantly move towards

  687. people and as we grow more like Christ and for a church that's

  688. image bearing, whether it's Front porch or other

  689. organizations when you're going to look for opportunities to do

  690. work beyond our our own congregations.

  691. Yeah. That's good.

  692. That's good work, Jennifer. Any closing thoughts?

  693. I so it's funny because I was talking to the executive

  694. director, Leeann Cavan, and she had just expressed that there

  695. there was a donor that said, you know, the issues being addressed

  696. are broad and the need is great. So the support needs to be as

  697. well. And so and I just thought that

  698. was a good just kind of summation of and of what we've

  699. kind of all been talking about is that the need, maybe it is

  700. finances, maybe it is a yearly serve day, maybe it is leading a

  701. group, but the need is great and the support is is needed as

  702. well. And so it's just neat to see the

  703. various ways that two churches can can come in relationship

  704. together and partner together, connect with one another to help

  705. those that are literally right in our backyard.

  706. And I would highly encourage most churches that I've talked

  707. with have a financial assistance or a local missions budget.

  708. And it really is forward thinking to consider

  709. organizations that you can resource through that rather

  710. than just directly providing to people in need.

  711. It is a weight lifted to be able to, to, to, to work with Front

  712. Porch because when someone is in need and it's something that I'm

  713. not an expert in, I know Brian and his team are.

  714. And whether they are on the wait list or can just have an

  715. interview or we can take some sort of step forward, there

  716. really are benefits to doing life together.

  717. Yeah, No, that's great. Anything else we've missed guys?

  718. I think you said how can we pray for front porch?

  719. I think it's just it's praying that the storm will always come,

  720. but there will be light and all of our residents will face their

  721. individual storms. All of our staff will face that.

  722. And it's just praying for the ability to to endure and to work

  723. through that because of what's coming at the other end.

  724. Yeah, just the face to take it one day at a time and the

  725. confidence that they're not alone and that God's provided.

  726. It might not be in the way that they expected, but he's

  727. providing the community so they're not alone and they can

  728. walk and take that next step towards the light.

  729. Yeah. That's a beautiful prayer.

  730. Mike, would you close our time? Yeah.

  731. Praying for the residents of Front Porch and also praying

  732. just for the churches of our community that we would move and

  733. that we would, we would be, we would know the privilege of

  734. being involved in the ministry of other people's lives.

  735. Yeah. Let's pray Heavenly Father,

  736. thank you that we can come to you because Jesus went to the

  737. cross and made a way for us to come into relationship with you.

  738. You told us Jesus in in John 15 that that your people would when

  739. we are unified will be a light to those in need and it's a

  740. proclamation of the gospel. I I pray for front Porch.

  741. Thank you for the first three years.

  742. Thank you for the faithful endurance of the of the staff,

  743. of the leadership, and we pray that you would continue to grow.

  744. The. Heart of Front Porch that you

  745. would continue to grow the resources and that you would

  746. continue to draw people in need in because we know that Front

  747. Porch is is sharing the gospel is helping people develop plans

  748. and then resourcing them to to follow through on those plans.

  749. I pray for the faithful endurance of the people that are

  750. are coming into Front Porch and you're on the wait list to know

  751. that today all of their problems may not be solved, but if they

  752. are able to weather the storm with others and with you Jesus

  753. that that there are bright days ahead.

  754. We know we were all made in the image of God and because of you

  755. Jesus, we all have an opportunity to be formed into

  756. the image of Christ through a relationship with you.

  757. I pray that that would be the case for each and every person

  758. who comes through Front Porch. And as we celebrate three years

  759. of Front Porch, pray that we will be able to continue to

  760. celebrate more and more graduates, more and more

  761. community, more and more resources coming in, and more

  762. and more opportunity for people to step out of that poverty

  763. mindset into a life that is on a firm foundation, first and

  764. foremost because of you, but also with the practical skills

  765. and resources necessary to to thrive.

  766. Amen.