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Faithful Suffering - Sunday Sermon

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  1. in I'd like to I'd like to pray because

  2. what we're going to be dealing with

  3. today is heavy and heavy for a reason.

  4. And so let me pray and then we'll get

  5. into God's word. Heavenly Father, thank

  6. you for this opportunity to gather

  7. again. Thank you for the opportunity to

  8. consider what your word has to say about

  9. grief. And we are grieving today and we

  10. need your comfort. and we pray that you

  11. would speak to our very inner persons,

  12. to our spirits today through your word

  13. in Jesus name. Amen.

  14. I have the some very sad news for you

  15. guys. Uh you may uh know and have known

  16. Betty Camp well or you may be hearing

  17. about this for the first time. Um but

  18. she passed away just yesterday at 240

  19. after having been taken off of life

  20. support. And uh I know that for some of

  21. you that had grown close in the

  22. disciplehip communities or we have uh a

  23. lot of her family here with us today

  24. that this has been a very grievous time

  25. and a time of mourning and sadness. And

  26. so uh normally when we're not in Esther,

  27. we're taking a little just a one Sunday

  28. break from Esther. We'll be back in

  29. Esther next week. Um I've been doing

  30. these mentorship sermons. I felt

  31. redirected on that to talk about our

  32. relationship to suffering and God's

  33. relationship to our suffering. And I've

  34. gotten permission from Ralph to talk

  35. some about my experience with the family

  36. at Emanuel

  37. um in the waiting room and also in the

  38. hospital room uh when when Betty was

  39. still on life support. Um,

  40. but what what I'm hoping to accomplish,

  41. what I believe God is hoping to

  42. accomplish today is uh to comfort us, to

  43. teach us about uh his sovereignty over

  44. suffering, his purpose in suffering, how

  45. good it is, and how we should respond.

  46. Uh we're going to be talking about four

  47. questions really. Is God truly sovereign

  48. over all forms of suffering? And I'll

  49. take you to a couple verses about that

  50. because that is a question that is going

  51. to come up in your heart naturally when

  52. uh grief knocks on your door. Whether

  53. that's grief as a result of your own

  54. illness,

  55. the loss of a beloved one or any kind of

  56. grief, uh knowing that God is sovereign

  57. over it is already such a huge comfort.

  58. It is a wonderful comfort. Um, secondly,

  59. does he have a purpose in it? That'll be

  60. the second question that we that we ask.

  61. And I'll show you some verses about his

  62. purposes around suffering. Thirdly, is

  63. are his purposes in suffering good? Are

  64. they good? We need to know that. We need

  65. to know that he's in control of our

  66. suffering. We need to know that he has a

  67. purpose for it. We need to know in our

  68. hearts that the purpose is good. And

  69. then we also need to know how we ought

  70. to respond. what is a faithful response

  71. to grief? And um I want to thank Ralph

  72. in particularly for giving in particular

  73. for giving me permission to share about

  74. um my witness of his grief uh in the

  75. hours we spent together at the hospital

  76. because um

  77. I don't know if it's a rare example but

  78. in my experience it's a rare example of

  79. faithfulness and real pain. And so I

  80. want to share that with you. and and he

  81. he actually wants me to share this with

  82. you for your benefit. Um which is

  83. something scripture actually says God

  84. means our suffering for the benefit of

  85. others as well. Uh that's one of his

  86. purposes. So, um,

  87. we're going to go ahead and throw up the

  88. first question,

  89. and I won't be really telling you my

  90. main point till the very end of the

  91. sermon because I want to prove to you

  92. from scripture how it's true. And I want

  93. the Holy Spirit to prove to your heart

  94. uh that this is true and that this is is

  95. right and from God in relationship to

  96. our suffering and his relationship to

  97. our suffering. Um, so our very first

  98. question is, is God sovereign over our

  99. suffering? If I may seem a little low

  100. energy today or uh it's it's not just

  101. that I'm grieving as well, but I'm uh

  102. I'm feeling quite sick and so you can be

  103. praying for me. I'm uh speaking a little

  104. bit more quietly because I'm concerned

  105. my my wife's voice has gone up. I'm

  106. concerned my voice will go out as well.

  107. I'm I'm okay. But um you could pray for

  108. mental focus because that's uh what I

  109. feel like I'm lacking right now. Um so I

  110. also forgot to turn my phone on do not

  111. uh do not go off and I'm using it for my

  112. notes here. So

  113. just one second.

  114. Of course.

  115. So, is God sovereign over your

  116. suffering?

  117. My autolock is locked from changing

  118. because my battery thing is uh on low

  119. battery mode. Just one second. There we

  120. go. Today has been somewhat of a comedy

  121. of errors already, at least in my

  122. morning. Um but sorry for the delay

  123. here. All right, there we go.

  124. So, is God sovereign over our suffering?

  125. And we're going to go to honestly some

  126. of the hardest scripture about suffering

  127. starting in Lamentations. But I want you

  128. to know that the answer that we get from

  129. the author of Lamentations who are not

  130. sure who it is may have been Jeremiah.

  131. That's my best guess and that seems to

  132. be the best guess of trustworthy

  133. scholars.

  134. However, um it is in the context of

  135. suffering related to God's discipline of

  136. the nation of Israel. Um and it's severe

  137. discipline. Other nations come in and

  138. take them into exile and destroy

  139. Jerusalem. And so they're experiencing

  140. death and loss of loved ones and and

  141. grievous sorrow. Um, but it's important

  142. to remember that what is said here is in

  143. the context of suffering God brings into

  144. the lives of Israelites at that time.

  145. Uh, because he's disciplining them.

  146. That's important. So remember that when

  147. we read through it. Um, I also want you

  148. to notice beyond just the fact that the

  149. author of Lamentation shows just how

  150. sovereign God is over uh, disciplinary

  151. suffering, which by the way, I'll just

  152. disclaimer this right from the

  153. beginning. I uh am not insinuating in

  154. any way that what the camp uh family is

  155. experiencing in the loss of Betty is in

  156. the category of disciplinary suffering.

  157. I'm simply uh surveying just how

  158. sovereign God is over all forms of

  159. suffering. Okay. Um but just a little

  160. side note that you might consider while

  161. you're reading this. Um one important

  162. aspect of processing your grief is being

  163. honest to God in prayer about how you

  164. feel. And Lamentations most certainly

  165. gives us permission to do that. Just

  166. listen how honest the author of

  167. Lamentations chapter 3 starting in verse

    Lamentations 3 chapter mention

  168. 15 is with God about his suffering.

  169. He's saying about God when he says he he

  170. has filled me with bitterness. He has

  171. saded me with wormwood. He has made my

  172. teeth grind on gravel and made me co and

  173. and made me cower in ashes. My soul is

  174. barereft of peace. I have forgotten what

  175. happiness is. You've forgotten what

  176. happiness is. I just want to stop there

  177. for a second. Have you ever been in such

  178. deep grief that you feel like you've

  179. forgotten what happiness is?

  180. It's been a while for me since I've been

  181. in grief like that, but I have

  182. experienced that before in my life. Um,

  183. everything's gray.

  184. The the purpose of life seems like it's

  185. diminished and you begin to forget.

  186. And if it wasn't for God, it's like

  187. despair is knocking on your door and you

  188. know you don't want to open that door

  189. and God's helping you keep it closed and

  190. not oh go open that door to despair. But

  191. despair is knocking on their your door.

  192. You've forgotten what happiness is.

  193. Verse 18. So I say my endurance has

  194. perished. That's going to be important.

  195. We're going to be talking about

  196. endurance in the time of grief. But he

  197. is admitting that his endurance has

  198. perished and even admit so has my hope

  199. from the Lord.

  200. Now, if this was the prophet Jeremiah,

  201. this is a very faithful man, a

  202. spiritually battleh hardened man. I

  203. think I've used this metaphor before,

  204. but I remember seeing

  205. a face of a mountain mountaineer on the

  206. National Geographic u probably on the

  207. web page, might have been on the

  208. magazine, and it was a guy who had

  209. summited uh Mount Everest multiple

  210. times. And his faith I faith I call like

  211. National Geographic weathered looked

  212. leathery grooves in his line in his in

  213. his eyes so tan because there's so much

  214. bright sun reflecting off the snow when

  215. you're when you're mountaineering like

  216. that. And also you have to be very tough

  217. to climb with oxygen deprivation. Very

  218. tough. And uh anybody that's climbed

  219. Mount Everest as many times as this man

  220. has has seen people lost to the

  221. mountain. didn't make it back down. And

  222. so there's suffering involved in

  223. mountaineering. And you can see it in

  224. the face. Although you could see a glint

  225. in his eye. You know what I'm talking

  226. about? Like there was still a desire and

  227. a passion as a mountaineer. But his face

  228. was weathered. I think of that

  229. spiritually in the sense of uh

  230. what happens to us when we suffer is it

  231. weathers us in a way. Even spiritually,

  232. there's a diminishment of our endurance

  233. that happens and there's a diminishment

  234. of our hope in the Lord when we're

  235. suffering to that degree. And when that

  236. happens, we need to admit it. When that

  237. happens, we need to actually admit it.

  238. It's not the same thing as opening the

  239. door to despair. And you'll see that

  240. very clearly uh because God will

  241. strengthen your endurance and he'll

  242. bring far greater hope than you can

  243. imagine. But he's being honest. This uh

  244. this weathered prophet or weathered

  245. author of scripture is being honest that

  246. he doesn't feel like he's got any

  247. endurance left and he does not feel like

  248. he has any more hope from the Lord.

  249. Remember my affliction and my

  250. wanderings, the wormwood and the gall.

  251. My soul continually remembers it and is

  252. bowed down within me. I want to stop

  253. there again. Suffering, certain grief is

  254. so deep. It's a suffering of your

  255. spirit, of your soul, of your innermost

  256. person. It's not just your emotions.

  257. It's not just your mind. It's not just

  258. your body. It's something far deeper.

  259. You may not have considered that,

  260. that your soul is processing grief, that

  261. it's that deep.

  262. It's important to remember that it

  263. really is that deep, and to recognize

  264. that it's that deep. Verse 21, but this

  265. I call to mind and therefore I have

  266. hope.

  267. So he's just admitted and he's not

  268. contradicting himself. And if you've

  269. grieved, you know how there can be these

  270. swings of feeling hopeless and you're in

  271. the pit and then this sense of light

  272. that God's offering you hope and you're

  273. going to go ahead and cling to the rope

  274. he's throwing you.

  275. But this I call to mind and therefore I

  276. have hope. The steadfast love of the

  277. Lord never ceases. His mercies never

  278. come to an end. They are new every

  279. morning. Great is your faithfulness.

  280. You can tell this author is faithful in

  281. his grief. There's no question about it.

  282. And he's not forgetting who God is. But

  283. he's being honest about how he actually

  284. feels. And he continues, "The Lord is my

  285. portion, says my soul. Therefore, I will

  286. hope in him. The Lord is good to those

  287. who wait for him, for the soul who seeks

  288. him. It is good that one should wait

  289. quietly for the salvation of the Lord.

  290. It is good for a man that he bear the

  291. yoke of bear the yoke in his youth. Let

  292. him sit alone in silence when it is laid

  293. on him. Let him put his mouth in the

  294. dust. There may yet be hope. I don't

  295. believe that the author of Lamentations

  296. is saying that you ought to isolate

  297. yourself in a time of grief. But there

  298. will be times when you are alone and no

  299. one else is around and there are things

  300. that you will have to process in silence

  301. and alone between you and your Lord and

  302. you will not be able to process some of

  303. those things uh with other people. It

  304. will have to be between you and the Lord

  305. alone. I believe that is what he's

  306. talking about.

  307. Let him give his cheek to the one who

  308. strikes, and let him be filled with

  309. insults. For the Lord will not cast off

  310. forever. But though he cause grief, he

  311. will have compassion according to the

  312. abundance of his steadfast love. For he

  313. does not afflict from his heart or

  314. grieve the children of men.

  315. This is where this passage gets very

  316. difficult. But I have resolved something

  317. about this type of suffering in my heart

  318. because the author says it right here.

  319. It says in verse 32, "But though he

  320. caused grief,"

  321. do you have room in your faith to

  322. believe

  323. and accept that God does cause grief,

  324. not just allow it, says cause causes. as

  325. good students of the Bible and wanting

  326. to rightly divide the word here. This

  327. grief that he's causing is disciplinary.

  328. Israel has done great wrong. They've

  329. abandoned the Lord. They've worshiped

  330. idols and they've sinned in grievous

  331. ways. And the grief that he's causing is

  332. similar to a father disciplining their

  333. child.

  334. Although when you actually read the

  335. kinds of discipline God's brought into

  336. the life of Israel through siege

  337. warfare,

  338. it's far worse than some kind of

  339. spanking.

  340. It leaves far greater grooves of pain.

  341. You know what I mean by grooves of pain?

  342. Let me give you a metaphor that might

  343. stick in your mind. Because these

  344. grooves that God carves into our heart

  345. at times in a disciplinary way when

  346. we've been walking the wrong way are

  347. also loving grooves coming from him.

  348. Something has to be carved out of our

  349. lives.

  350. Something wrong, something that it seems

  351. only pain will remove.

  352. And we're not going to spend even most

  353. of our time talking about suffering

  354. related to discipline. We're going to

  355. move on from that. But I do want to talk

  356. about this. And it's not as though I

  357. know that you're suffering because

  358. you're being disciplined. But you may

  359. be. It is a thing that God does.

  360. I have this creek, a named creek running

  361. right through the middle of my property

  362. in the very bottom of the five acres

  363. called Thimble Creek. And it has cut its

  364. groove through the dirt and clay. And

  365. it's been monsooning recently. I don't

  366. know if you've noticed, but flood

  367. warnings, right? And uh so it's still

  368. just a creek even when it's flooded, but

  369. it's a rushing creek. There's a lot of

  370. water. It's surprising how long it

  371. lasts, too. It seems like days after the

  372. rain, it's still rushing. It's probably

  373. because the saturation of the ground and

  374. all of the water flowing into it, you

  375. know, but it's rushing down there. And

  376. as it rushes, it cuts steeper grooves.

  377. So keep that thought in mind because God

  378. will pour his love into our hearts in

  379. times of suffering. We're going to go to

  380. that passage in Romans 5. But sometimes

  381. he will cut grooves so that he can pour

  382. more love into our hearts. You ever felt

  383. hollowed out through pain?

  384. I have.

  385. Keep that thought in mind. What if God's

  386. the one doing the hollowing?

  387. Let's continue here because there's

  388. something so precious even in his

  389. sovereignty to cause grief in a

  390. disciplinary way. Listen to what it

  391. says.

  392. Verse 32. But though he caused grief, he

  393. will have compassion according to the

  394. abundance of his steadfast love. For he

  395. does not afflict from his heart or

  396. grieve the children of men.

  397. You may just intuitively know what that

  398. means.

  399. But what does it mean that he causes

  400. grief, but he doesn't afflict from the

  401. heart?

  402. He He's sovereign. He's controlling it.

  403. He brings it into your life in in this

  404. case in a disciplinary way, but he

  405. doesn't afflict from the heart. And I I

  406. wanted to give you kind of a nonverbal

  407. expression because it's not easy to

  408. explain that in words. One way to put it

  409. in words is that his affliction is not

  410. heartless. Um, but I want you to

  411. consider,

  412. and this is, you know, this is just a

  413. sense that I have about what it means. I

  414. think it might help you. But as God, an

  415. anthropomorphism, a human way of

  416. explaining God.

  417. So imagine God stretching out his hand

  418. to cause you grief. And imagine him

  419. doing while looking at you with an eye

  420. of joy and satisfaction in his heart

  421. that he's causing you grief.

  422. Is that the way he's doing it?

  423. The Germans had a word for that. It's

  424. called shodenfo. Happiness in other

  425. people's pain.

  426. Turns out, I don't know if you've ever

  427. experienced it, but part of our flesh

  428. takes pleasure in other people's pain.

  429. This is not the way God causes grief in

  430. a disciplinary way. The way I think

  431. about it intuitively is more like a

  432. father who loves you so much and it's

  433. almost he looks away

  434. like it causes him grief to cause you

  435. grief.

  436. There are times where

  437. one of my kids has maybe been acting up

  438. and Christine's feeling overwhelmed and

  439. she's all upset on the ride home in the

  440. sprinter and she'll be coming in and and

  441. and say, "Mate, you need to deal with so

  442. and so." And I didn't experience

  443. anything they did wrong in that moment.

  444. I trust my wife and I said, "Okay, what

  445. should the con consequence be?" And um

  446. in that moment, if she's overwhelmed or

  447. just feeling like, can you please deal

  448. with this? I think that's fine for

  449. fathers to do. It's a way we can bear

  450. each other's burdens, you know. Um and

  451. she said, well, he he should get a

  452. spanking for this. He needs a serious

  453. consequence. That's how bad it was.

  454. Well, um

  455. imagine no one offended me. I'm not

  456. upset. They did nothing wrong towards

  457. me. I totally trust my wife, though. But

  458. now you have to go into discipline in

  459. this case one of your sons

  460. without having any experienced it

  461. yourself. Right?

  462. I don't I know it's right for me to

  463. discipline my children. I know that

  464. that's biblically commanded and each

  465. each father and each mother each

  466. parenting

  467. couple

  468. has to decide the way they want to

  469. discipline their children. I affirm your

  470. authority in deciding that. But I do

  471. think there are biblical commands around

  472. it and I want to follow those. So I know

  473. I should do it, but I don't want to. I

  474. don't want to. I don't want to cause my

  475. child discomfort to help him learn not

  476. to behave a certain way.

  477. But I do it. I think that's another way

  478. of explaining that God even in times of

  479. disciplinary suffering

  480. doesn't do it from the heart. Not that

  481. way.

  482. Okay. So that I mean I don't I don't see

  483. any other way to read that than though

  484. he caused grief in disciplinary settings

  485. he does. Okay. What about in situations

  486. where the person has not done anything

  487. wrong biblically? Um uh are there times

  488. where actually God will bring suffering

  489. into your life for righteousness sake?

  490. Okay. Let's go to Acts chapter 9 verse

    Acts 9:15–16

  491. 15-16.

  492. The Lord speaking to Ananas

  493. who has heard about all of the horrible

  494. things that Paul had been doing

  495. breathing out murderous threats against

  496. the saints.

  497. But God, the Lord showed up in blinding

  498. light Jesus and brought Paul to his

  499. knees in repentance. And God has a plan

  500. for him. Listen what it says. But the

  501. Lord said to him to Ananas who was

  502. afraid of of going and ministering to

  503. Paul, go for he is my chosen instrument.

  504. He is a chosen instrument of mine to

  505. carry my name before the Gentiles and

  506. kings and the children of Israel. For I

  507. will show him how much he must suffer

  508. for the sake of my name. This is

  509. suffering for righteousness sake. Had

  510. Paul done a lot of uh prideful things

  511. stemming from a heart of hypocritical

  512. legalism? Yeah, he admits that. He

  513. admits that. But that's not why God says

  514. he must suffer. God and he must. There's

  515. no way out of it. He's got to suffer for

  516. the sake of God's name. So, it can't

  517. happen any other way, which means that

  518. God is bringing the suffering into his

  519. life. And it's a type of suffering that

  520. we ought not to connect directly

  521. to something that Paul did wrong.

  522. When he gets stoned basically to death,

  523. seems like he's being resurrected from

  524. the stoning. He was being stoned because

  525. he was being faithful. And that's just

  526. one of the many types of sufferings he

  527. had to suffer.

  528. Okay?

  529. So in this situation, God is prophesying

  530. suffering and he's in charge of that

  531. future. It can't happen any other way

  532. for righteousness sake. That's another

  533. type of suffering.

  534. But there's even one more type of

  535. suffering that I wonder if you have ever

  536. even considered. This is a famous

  537. passage, so I think you've probably been

  538. there. Um but uh if you guys can put up

  539. the very next passage I gave you under

  540. the question. 2 Corinthians 12

  541. 7-10.

  542. It has one of the most famous verses in

  543. all the Bible attached to it. 2

  544. Corinthians 12 7-10.

  545. Okay. Paul says, "So to keep me from

  546. being conceited because of the

  547. surpassing greatness of the revelations,

  548. a thorn was given me in the flesh, a

  549. messenger from Satan to harass me to

  550. keep me from becoming conceited." Three

  551. times I pleaded with the Lord about this

  552. that it should leave me. But he said to

  553. me, "My grace is sufficient for you, for

  554. my power is made perfect in weakness.

  555. Therefore, I will boast all the more

  556. gladly of my weakness, so that the power

  557. of Christ may rest upon me.

  558. to keep me from being conceited. So,

  559. he's not conceited yet.

  560. Why might he become conceited? Because

  561. God has revealed things to him that he

  562. seems to have not revealed to any other

  563. person.

  564. Sans Jesus maybe, not maybe, for sure.

  565. But Paul has these exceeding

  566. revelations. And

  567. it wasn't sinful for him to get those

  568. revelations. And he received them

  569. humbly. and God decides to give him this

  570. thorn in the flesh. And so it seems to

  571. me a physical ailment of some kind. We

  572. don't know what, but it also has

  573. spiritual ramifications. And Satan is

  574. harassing him. Okay. It's like Satan's

  575. using that physical issue, the thorn in

  576. the flesh, to harass Paul. And God, he

  577. pleads with God to take it away. and God

  578. will not

  579. because God loves Paul enough to stop

  580. him from becoming conceited. I think

  581. this is very different than disciplinary

  582. suffering, very different than suffering

  583. for righteousness sake.

  584. It's a suffering that God brings to keep

  585. somebody that's being humble humble.

  586. Have you ever considered that? Because

  587. your future pride is kind of out of

  588. sight, out of mind, isn't it?

  589. I have not recently thought about the

  590. ways I might be prideful in the future.

  591. But when I look at this, I think, wow,

  592. maybe some of the suffering that God

  593. brings into my life is to keep me from

  594. being conceited in the future, even

  595. though I may not be conceited in that

  596. way right now.

  597. and that out of sight of like you don't

  598. know how conceited you might have become

  599. if God hadn't brought suffering that he

  600. won't take away chronic

  601. right but do you want to become

  602. conceited and would you entrust that to

  603. the Lord so those are just three

  604. different types of suffering

  605. but I believe that God is in control of

  606. all types of suffering and we could

  607. continue on that and I believe you

  608. should too and I believe that starts a

  609. healthy and pure process of grief where

  610. you trust trust completely that God is

  611. in charge of your suffering. And you've

  612. already seen how in those very passages,

  613. God has a purpose for that suffering.

  614. But I want to go to another place in

  615. scripture

  616. for to explain exactly what that purpose

  617. is. So, we've covered this idea that God

  618. is in control of your suffering.

  619. Sometimes he causes it and uh for for

  620. his purpose and they're more than just

  621. discipline. Sometimes it's for

  622. righteousness sake and sometimes it's

  623. for the sake of keeping you from

  624. becoming sinful in some way.

  625. Does he have a purpose for it? Let's go

  626. to Romans 5

  627. 1-6.

  628. And Paul says, "Therefore, since we have

  629. been justified by faith, we have peace

  630. with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.

  631. Through him we have also obtained access

  632. by faith into his grace in which we

  633. stand. And we rejoice in the hope of the

  634. glory of God. Why therefore but because

  635. God through the death and resurrection

  636. of Jesus Christ through the atoning

  637. sacrifice he made to pay the penalty for

  638. our sin through that and that work alone

  639. has justified us who believe. And so

  640. it's apart from any kind of works of the

  641. law. Anything good you could do

  642. completely free. Even the faith to

  643. believe that is a gift from the Lord.

  644. And so if you believe that, you've been

  645. justified. That means you are in right

  646. relationship to God. And because of

  647. that, you have peace with God through

  648. the Lord Jesus Christ. If you don't

  649. believe, you do not have peace with the

  650. Lord. And you're in fact, even if you at

  651. times don't feel this way, hostile and

  652. alienated from him because of sin in

  653. your life. And so that justification is

  654. more valuable than anything. When we

  655. talk about the joy of salvation, that is

  656. the joy of salvation and that's what we

  657. rejoice in. It's the hope of the glory

  658. of God.

  659. But Paul says in verse three, not only

  660. that, but we rejoice in our sufferings.

  661. Have you ever rejoiced in your

  662. suffering? Does that not sound like a

  663. contradiction? How is it possible to

  664. rejoice in our sufferings? Didn't we

  665. just see that the author of Lamentations

  666. is honest and clear and direct about how

  667. he feels?

  668. My endurance is gone. My hope is gone.

  669. I'm at this terrible low point.

  670. Seems like God has filled me with

  671. bitterness. He's caused this grief in my

  672. life. And yet, he has this hopeful

  673. attitude about it. He even though he

  674. seems to be at the end of his own

  675. endurance, at the end of his line in

  676. terms of hope, he still clings to the

  677. hope of the Lord, but he's honest first.

  678. But is is this honest? Is is this some

  679. kind of weird hyperspiritual nonsense?

  680. Can we really really rejoice in our

  681. suffering? I think this passage gets

  682. misunderstood quite often to mean that

  683. it's the suffering itself that we ought

  684. to be happy about.

  685. I don't know if you have ever heard

  686. someone say that. I It's not necessary

  687. that I've heard that, but I think we

  688. sort of slip into that thought that we

  689. are to but then why should we rejoice

  690. with those who joep with those who weep?

  691. And you think what what does it mean to

  692. rejoice in suffering? Well, let's read

  693. on because Paul tells us knowing that

  694. suffering produces endurance. Endurance

  695. produces character and character

  696. produces hope. And hope does not put us

  697. to shame because God's love has been

  698. poured into our hearts through the Holy

  699. Spirit who has been given to us.

  700. If all we had was a fragment of Romans 5

  701. and it says, "Not only that, but we

  702. rejoice in our suffering." We wouldn't

  703. really know exactly what Paul means. And

  704. we might conclude wrongly that what Paul

  705. means is be happy about your suffering.

  706. What he really means is rejoice in what

  707. your suffering will produce.

  708. So why should you rejoice in your

  709. suffering? Because you know something.

  710. What do you know? You know that

  711. suffering produces endurance.

  712. Remember we just got done hearing the

  713. author of Lamentations talking about how

  714. he feels no like he has no endurance.

  715. If if we're talking about running,

  716. I've recently started getting into

  717. longer periods of cardiovascular

  718. exercise and especially when you're

  719. first getting into that back that kind

  720. of shape. If you've ever done it,

  721. especially if you're doing it in a cold

  722. environment, it's almost like you can

  723. taste blood in the back of your throat.

  724. Your lungs are hurting. I don't know if

  725. you've especially if you go really hard,

  726. you know? I don't actually know exactly

  727. what's happening there, but but

  728. endurance running. In fact, my brother

  729. is an ultramarathoner, 100 mile races,

  730. 15 uh thousand or 14,000 uh feet peaks

  731. in the Rockies, right? So, huge amount

  732. of elevation gain. And he talked to me.

  733. I said, "You know what? What do you

  734. think really separates the great

  735. ultramarathoners from the um from the

  736. rest of the pack that's also great?"

  737. And he said, you know, it's not actually

  738. in this case sort of otherworldly talent

  739. that helps. Strong bodies, lean

  740. physique, that all helps. But it's

  741. basically I've come to the conclusion is

  742. a willingness to suffer more.

  743. The best ultramarathoners are just

  744. willing to suffer more.

  745. And they have just about the greatest

  746. endurance you can humanly achieve in a

  747. physical sense.

  748. So suffering produces endurance. an

  749. endurance you wouldn't have without it.

  750. And that endurance produces character.

  751. And that character produces hope.

  752. You can't get this kind of endurance.

  753. And you can't get this kind of

  754. character. And you can't get this kind

  755. of hope without the suffering.

  756. But then when you gain the hope and man,

  757. some of you have gained hope that is

  758. tempered by suffering. And it's

  759. unshakable.

  760. It is so deep because those grooves of

  761. suffering that God's cut into your

  762. heart, he's poured his love into more

  763. love.

  764. Why do we have that hope? And why does

  765. that hope not put us to shame? Because

  766. God's love has been poured into our

  767. hearts through the Holy Spirit who's

  768. been given to us.

  769. What if God's suffering?

  770. No matter why,

  771. in this case with the camps, I believe

  772. it's simply the result of the fallen

  773. world. We die as a result of the fall.

  774. Was not God's original plan. It is now.

  775. And so I I I believe it would be like

  776. being a Job's counselor to be like,

  777. "God's doing this because you did

  778. something wrong." It's really harmful in

  779. the grieving process to assume that the

  780. suffering that someone's experiencing is

  781. because they did something wrong. Um, I

  782. don't know all of God's reasons for why,

  783. but I know his purpose and the ends of

  784. it is to bring far greater hope. And it

  785. will bring a process of endurance that

  786. produces character that produces that

  787. far greater hope.

  788. And like I said, it's not an endurance

  789. you gain without that kind of suffering.

  790. Not a character you gain without that

  791. endurance. And not a hope you gain

  792. without that character. Do you want that

  793. kind of hope that is just so much deeper

  794. than it was before? I want that kind of

  795. hope. And what does a family need that's

  796. grieving the loss of a wife and a

  797. grandmother and a beloved Christian

  798. sister more than hope? What do you need

  799. more than hope when you're grieving?

  800. I don't know all your grief. God knows

  801. all your grief. What do you need more

  802. than hope?

  803. Isn't hope the thing at stake? Isn't

  804. hope the very thing that the author of

  805. Lamentations was saying he had run out

  806. of?

  807. How does God bring that hope? He pours

  808. his love through the Holy Spirit into

  809. the heart. He hollowed out with all the

  810. pain.

  811. For those of you that suffered, you just

  812. you know exactly what I'm talking about.

  813. And so, yeah, he has a purpose for it.

  814. And already in a way, we've answered, is

  815. that purpose good? But it's even better

  816. than what I've been able to communicate.

  817. So, God is sovereign over all your

  818. suffering. He's sovereign over all your

  819. suffering. Settle it. Settle it today.

  820. And that will be the first step of being

  821. able to grieve in a faithful manner. He

  822. is. And he has a purpose

  823. and it's for greater hope and for your

  824. experience of his love in your heart

  825. and it comes through pain.

  826. Is his purpose really good? Is his

  827. purpose really good? Well, let's go to 2

    2 Corinthians 4:16–18

  828. Corinthians 4:16-18.

  829. I'm going to read it. I guess we don't

  830. have the confidence monitor. I think I

  831. have it marked. So 2 Corinthians

    2 Corinthians 4:16–18

  832. 4:16-18.

  833. I could have asked how good is this

  834. purpose? This is how good his purpose

  835. is. 2 Corinthians

    2 Corinthians 4:16–18

  836. chapter 4

  837. verse 16-18. So we do not lose heart.

  838. Losing heart is what's at stake in this

  839. suffering.

  840. The author of Lamentations was losing

  841. heart. He felt like he was losing heart.

  842. He was telling God, "I'm losing heart.

  843. I'm losing heart is so painful."

  844. Paul says, "We do not lose heart. Though

  845. our outer self is wasting away, our

  846. inner self is being renewed day by day.

  847. For this light and momentary affliction,

  848. is preparing for us an eternal weight of

  849. glory beyond all comparison. as we look

  850. not to the things that are seen, but to

  851. the things that are unseen. For the

  852. things that are seen are transient, but

  853. the things that are unseen are eternal.

  854. Is Paul making light of suffering by

  855. calling it light and momentary

  856. affliction? No. He's saying

  857. that the glory that God is preparing for

  858. us, the weight of that makes what we're

  859. experiencing now, though real and deep

  860. and painful and grievous,

  861. seem light and momentary.

  862. Have you ever considered

  863. that there is a glory that you can bring

  864. in suffering faithfully grieving

  865. faithfully being in pain faithfully

  866. that you can only bring to the Lord in

  867. this life?

  868. Betty

  869. was with the Lord the very moment she

  870. passed

  871. and she will never suffer again ever.

  872. And right now because of what Paul said

  873. and because that is perfectly true in

  874. her heart now and she was already so

  875. faithful before so it was true in her

  876. heart before but it's perfectly true

  877. now. She's looking back at any suffering

  878. she may have experienced and she's

  879. realizing how light and momentary it was

  880. and how the weight of glory of the Lord

  881. that she's experiencing right now is

  882. beyond comparison to any suffering she

  883. experienced.

  884. And she's seeing that by sight.

  885. And we believe it by faith. We don't see

  886. it yet.

  887. But could there be a greater purpose for

  888. your suffering than glorifying God with

  889. it?

  890. I know with all my heart there is no

  891. greater purpose for any suffering for

  892. any reason than to bring God glory for

  893. it. And you have this life

  894. maybe at absolute maximum

  895. 120 years. Garing men live to their mid

  896. 80s

  897. and they die usually of some kind of

  898. heart failure usually in their sleep.

  899. That's over and over again. My dad had

  900. nine siblings.

  901. I've been to a lot

  902. of death beds in hospitals.

  903. So,

  904. is God's purpose good for his suffering?

  905. Yes, it is.

  906. It doesn't make our pain easy.

  907. Paul's not actually saying your

  908. suffering's easy. No. No.

  909. But by faith, you know how great God's

  910. glory is.

  911. So, it's not fakey or weird to say, "I'm

  912. going to rejoice in my suffering." If

  913. you rightly mean, I'm going to res

  914. rejoice

  915. in the hope that God brings to my heart

  916. and the glory that he brings to himself

  917. through it.

  918. What if that wasn't the purpose? And

  919. what if it wasn't that good? And what if

  920. God wasn't suffer sovereign over your

  921. suffering?

  922. I I want to repeat. I asked Ralph I

  923. could share all these things but I

  924. talked to Ralph and asked him how he's

  925. doing. He said I'm not doing well. I'm

  926. in pain

  927. and I told him about the sermon that I

  928. was going to preach just this morning.

  929. Asked I just wanted permission to share

  930. these stories and uh and he said you

  931. know I don't know I read him Romans 5

  932. and I don't know

  933. if I could go on without that hope. I

  934. have that hope. I'm certain about that

  935. hope. But without it, I don't I don't

  936. think I'd make it.

  937. So, if God's purpose wasn't a good

  938. purpose to pour love into our hearts by

  939. the Holy Spirit and and increase and

  940. deepen our hope beyond what it can be

  941. seems to be able to be deepened in any

  942. other way than through some kind of

  943. suffering.

  944. And if it wasn't ultimately for his

  945. glory, which is the greatest end to all

  946. things, him being glorified,

  947. uh, what will we have?

  948. What will we have? And that brings me to

  949. my final question

  950. regarding this. And this is really the

  951. entire application.

  952. How should we respond and why? How

  953. should we respond and why? And I want to

  954. I want to tell you about what I

  955. witnessed about the camps and how they

  956. were responding.

  957. So I got to a a manual uh and man that

  958. is a gigantic hospital. I got lost three

  959. times just trying to find the parking

  960. garage.

  961. And uh I was like one entrance and one

  962. oneway street to get on it. And I just,

  963. you know, process of elimination finally

  964. found it.

  965. And uh Siri wasn't helping at all.

  966. I also got lost on the way out of the

  967. hospital.

  968. Siri, stop responding.

  969. Okay, did you hear her?

  970. H I don't even know how to turn that off

  971. right now. But

  972. so I got lost on the way and got lost

  973. the way out. I was laugh pouring rain

  974. just laughing to myself like I don't

  975. know if I'm supposed to go left to get

  976. back. I It's just a gigantic hospital.

  977. So, I get in there and I walked in

  978. through the children's hospital and

  979. finally found my way to the place I was

  980. supposed to go, room 320. And uh picked

  981. up the phone and Ralph came out and more

  982. of the family members were showing up.

  983. Drew and Elise and um and other other uh

  984. direct relatives and

  985. Anna Lisa was there as well who had

  986. grown really close to Betty.

  987. and Ralph ushered us over to the uh the

  988. waiting room and we sat down kind of in

  989. a round and uh we'd started talking a

  990. little bit um Ralph had asked a little

  991. bit about you know what the process of a

  992. memorial service might might be like and

  993. and when that conversation sort of ended

  994. I started asking about Betty and I never

  995. heard how they met for example and they

  996. were set up on a blind date went on a

  997. blind date it was a snowy nights and

  998. immediately after um and Betty wasn't in

  999. the car for this, but Ralph crashed the

  1000. car into a ditch. So I so I asked him

  1001. and I'm assuming he didn't tell Betty

  1002. and he goes, "Oh no, she knew." And

  1003. everyone was laughing. And then a little

  1004. bit further into the conversation, um he

  1005. was coaching us on uh bedside manner,

  1006. which by the way, no matter how many

  1007. times I've been, uh graveside or death

  1008. bedside, uh I don't feel like I've

  1009. become any more competent in knowing

  1010. how. I just rely on the Lord to know how

  1011. to care for people who are grieving.

  1012. That's bas basically the best lesson is

  1013. I'm desperate for the Lord to help me to

  1014. listen or to say anything or to just be

  1015. there in encouraging way. Um but Ralph

  1016. has learned some things about that and

  1017. he said you know I think hearing is the

  1018. last thing to go

  1019. and so let's not talk about any kind of

  1020. memorial service or things like that

  1021. because we don't know what she's

  1022. hearing. Let's be mindful. And I said

  1023. that's uh really good. Can we talk about

  1024. how you crashed the car? And everybody

  1025. laughed. And Ralph though took it as

  1026. though I was trying to dramatically

  1027. change the conversation. And he goes,

  1028. "Oh yeah, we could talk about that." And

  1029. started telling the story about he

  1030. crashed the car. And I tell that story

  1031. to illustrate there wasn't a dry eye in

  1032. the room. There wasn't a face that

  1033. wasn't read with tears. And yet there

  1034. was this aorious laughter at different

  1035. jokes people were making and funny

  1036. stories that were being told.

  1037. God has designed your spirit in a way

  1038. that it can in one moment be weeping and

  1039. another moment laughing from the belly.

  1040. It's really not a contradiction to

  1041. rejoice in suffering, is it?

  1042. And you need it.

  1043. I don't know if you've been to modern

  1044. hospitals lately, but there's no hope

  1045. there.

  1046. They're dark institutions. I feel my

  1047. spirit in my spirit when I walk into

  1048. those

  1049. hospital rooms. How lost and forlorn and

  1050. gloomy without any light.

  1051. And yet there wasn't a single camp or

  1052. related person that was grieving without

  1053. hope in that room.

  1054. One of the things that touched me most

  1055. about the way that Ralph is grieving

  1056. faithfully is that he freely admits just

  1057. how much pain he is in. He has no doubt

  1058. in God's goodness and purpose in it.

  1059. And I had been driving there and praying

  1060. God, you know, I had the sense that God

  1061. wanted me to bring that kind of joy. Not

  1062. a flippant joy,

  1063. not a self focused joy, but just not not

  1064. a stoic joy either, but I wanted to be

  1065. strong for the family. And I I wanted

  1066. him to fill me with his joy. Not some

  1067. kind of weird fakey joy, but like the

  1068. joy of the Lord. It's our strength. and

  1069. maybe I could have that joy of the Lord

  1070. in greater measure and maybe that'd be a

  1071. strength for the family.

  1072. So, I was in keeping my composure

  1073. intentionally.

  1074. And then

  1075. Betty was laying on life support on the

  1076. bed right in front of me. And to my

  1077. right, Ralph sits down.

  1078. His aris sits down, puts his arm around

  1079. him,

  1080. and Ralph just breaks down weeping.

  1081. I could not keep my composure in that

  1082. moment.

  1083. It's very painful to watch a faithful

  1084. man suffer like that.

  1085. And I thought about my wife whom I love

  1086. very much

  1087. and whom I too without the hope of the

  1088. Lord would feel like I wouldn't be able

  1089. to go on.

  1090. Ralph is suffering faithfully

  1091. and he's an example to us and he's been

  1092. an example to me.

  1093. And I want to show you what God can do

  1094. through you when you're willing to

  1095. suffer faithfully.

  1096. This is from 2 Corinthians chapter 1.

    2 Corinthians 1 chapter mention

  1097. You'll probably have heard this as

  1098. redemptive suffering, redemptive

  1099. affliction.

  1100. Listen to 2 Corinthians

    2 Corinthians 1 chapter mention

  1101. chapter 1 starting in verse three.

  1102. Blessed be the God and father of our

  1103. Lord Jesus Christ, the father of mercies

  1104. and God of all comfort, who comforts us

  1105. in all our affliction,

  1106. so that we may be able to comfort those

  1107. who are in any affliction with the

  1108. comfort with which we ourselves are

  1109. comforted by God. For as we are, we

  1110. share abundantly in Christ's sufferings,

  1111. so so through Christ, we share

  1112. abundantly in comfort, too. If we are

  1113. inflicted, it is for your comfort and

  1114. salvation. And if we are comforted, it

  1115. is for your comfort, which you

  1116. experience when you patiently endure the

  1117. same sufferings we suffer.

  1118. Have you ever experienced the comfort of

  1119. a brother or sister in Christ

  1120. that you know has suffered?

  1121. You know they know.

  1122. You know they know what it's like.

  1123. And so their comfort

  1124. it's deeper.

  1125. It's weathered.

  1126. It's strong.

  1127. Do you want to be that kind of person

  1128. for someone who is suffering, who's

  1129. afflicted, who's in grief, who's in

  1130. pain?

  1131. That kind of comfort

  1132. doesn't come without suffering in your

  1133. life.

  1134. I don't know. I know Ralph is suffering

  1135. faithfully.

  1136. I don't know if you have had times of

  1137. suffering where maybe you haven't

  1138. suffered faithfully. There have been

  1139. times in my life, seasons where I've

  1140. suffered

  1141. and then withdrawn from God.

  1142. You know what's worse than suffering?

  1143. Suffering without God close.

  1144. Suffering comes whether you're close to

  1145. God or not.

  1146. But why? And this is the last thing I

  1147. want to talk to you about. Why would we

  1148. withdraw from God while we're suffering?

  1149. Because in the depths of our heart, we

  1150. know he's sovereign over it. You know,

  1151. he's in control.

  1152. you know, he brought it into your life

  1153. and that he could have decided not to.

  1154. And the enemy will come and your flesh

  1155. will tend to agree with him

  1156. that either God is not sovereign

  1157. or God is not good.

  1158. And if you don't reconcile that from the

  1159. very beginning that yes, he's in control

  1160. and yes, he's good and yes, he has a

  1161. purpose and yes, his purpose is good.

  1162. If you don't anchor those things from

  1163. the word in your heart,

  1164. the enemy through the undermining will

  1165. of your flesh can peel you away from

  1166. God, too. I do not mean that you'll lose

  1167. your salvation. I mean that the felt

  1168. experience closeness of his love will be

  1169. diminished because that's poured into

  1170. our hearts by the Holy Spirit. And when

  1171. we start doubting God and when we start

  1172. distancing ourselves from him, it

  1173. grieves the Holy Spirit and it quenches

  1174. his work.

  1175. I don't want to say what I'm going to

  1176. say next, but I have to.

  1177. The only way back to the Lord

  1178. when you've suffered

  1179. and allowed it to diminish your trust in

  1180. him

  1181. is to repent of having done that.

  1182. And then you can walk to the cross.

  1183. You may be convinced that I understand

  1184. pain to a certain degree. You may be

  1185. convinced that there's some people in

  1186. your life that have been hollowed out

  1187. and allowed God to do it faithfully and

  1188. have so much love of his in their heart

  1189. and they offer you so much comfort. But

  1190. there is no one

  1191. who knows suffering like Jesus Christ.

  1192. No one who knows suffering like Jesus

  1193. Christ. And so when you return, when you

  1194. come to the table, when you by faith

  1195. realize

  1196. I was wrong to walk away from you, Lord,

  1197. and then I suffered by myself. And oh,

  1198. man, how much that will warp you.

  1199. I have seen some people who were

  1200. faithful Christians who now are so

  1201. warped because they allowed their grief

  1202. to peel them away from the Lord. They

  1203. did not cling to him during that time.

  1204. And the only only thing you can do to

  1205. return from that is to admit that that

  1206. was sinful.

  1207. which will be painful too. And that the

  1208. Lord is sovereign, that he has a

  1209. purpose, that his purpose is good, and

  1210. that he's worthy of every experience you

  1211. ever will have that causes grief.

  1212. He's worthy because he died

  1213. for your sin, though he was perfect.

  1214. So if you need healing of any kind, if

  1215. you need comfort of any measure, if you

  1216. need forgiveness of any depth,

  1217. come to the foot of the cross

  1218. and we'll heal together.

  1219. Let me pray.

  1220. Father,

  1221. Oh,

  1222. you said rejoice in our suffering.

  1223. So we will rejoice

  1224. in the suffering you've brought into our

  1225. church because we know

  1226. that it'll produce endurance and that

  1227. endurance will produce character and

  1228. that character will produce hope.

  1229. I pray that you would bring hope to the

  1230. camp family, hope to others who were

  1231. particularly close to Betty, and hope to

  1232. heart every heart that is here today by

  1233. faith in Jesus Christ and what he

  1234. accomplished on the cross so that we

  1235. might not bear our pain, our grief, or

  1236. our suffering apart from you in Jesus

  1237. name. Amen.