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Ready or Not: Revelation, the Mark, and Our Digital Future

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  1. Welcome to the Southwest Apostolic Church podcast.

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  3. 3161 South Rowena Street in Indianapolis, Indiana 46241.

  4. The podcast will feature preaching

  5. from our pastor and from other ministers, so we hope you enjoy it.

  6. Without further ado, let's get right into it. God bless.

  7. Tonight, we're going to look at the book of Revelations. We're going to go through

  8. a little outline, and we're going to look at it at a futuristic point of view.

  9. Now, there's different ways of looking at the book of Revelations.

  10. Some say it's already happened, all of it. Some say part of it's happened.

  11. And some say it's all in the future after the rapture.

  12. And that's what we're going to look at tonight. But there's something I read

  13. today that kind of stirred me up a little bit.

  14. And I want to get there. The purpose tonight is to, we want to admonish people

  15. to be faithful and make sure we're right with God because we are in the end time.

  16. Somebody say, man, we are in the end time. Praise the Lord.

  17. And we want you to understand that even though that might be true,

  18. we have triumph through Jesus Christ. And that's true too. Amen.

  19. Let's look at Revelation tonight.

  20. Is my scriptures up there, Sabby? Yeah, I did too. No, no, you're looking in the wrong spot.

  21. Aren't you glad we've been married a long time, praise the Lord.

  22. Hallelujah. Wednesday night. Well, I had it up there, but Revelation 17.

  23. Anyway, my fault then. I'll take the blame for it.

  24. Oh, I believe you. I believe you. It's okay, sweetie, really.

  25. Praise the Lord. It's okay. We'll be all right.

  26. Yeah, I had it up there. I was in a hurry, and I had it. 17.

  27. I believe it's 17. Let's go to...

  28. Maybe I'm wrong. You know, I'm running half with one wheel off the rail here tonight. Yeah.

  29. Yeah, thank you, Steve. You know when you're a young preacher,

  30. you don't want to hear an old sister out in the audience say, help him, Jesus.

  31. Yeah, but you hear that, you know you're struggling, praise the Lord.

  32. Oh, praise God. All right, let me go. Now, let's find it here. Yeah, 17.

  33. Oh, man. Let's pray one more time. Lord, help us tonight.

  34. We need you, Lord. I ask you to help us with your word here tonight.

  35. We're trying here, Lord. Hallelujah. Hallelujah. Praise the Lord.

  36. Revelation 14. No, wait, I take that back. I take that back too.

  37. Revelations 13, there it is, 16. Revelations 13, 16, that's what I want.

  38. All right, here we go. And he caused all, both small and great, rich and poor,

  39. free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand or in their foreheads,

  40. that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark or the name of the

  41. beast or the number of his name. Amen. You may be seated.

  42. We're going to end up there here in a few minutes.

  43. But we know that John the Apostle wrote the book of Revelations.

  44. The seven churches of Asia was who he wrote it to.

  45. The date was late 80s or early 90s while he was on the island of Patmos.

  46. It is called an apocalyptic literature. It's a prophetic literature they used.

  47. It was quite popular back in those days to write with imagery.

  48. And no doubt when John used a lot of this imagery, they understood what he was talking about.

  49. And many allusions to the Old Testament, especially Ezekiel and Daniel and Zechariah,

  50. there's really a good parallel between things in Daniel and the book of Revelations.

  51. And the revelation of Jesus Christ is the identity of God manifested in flesh.

  52. God and the Lamb as one personal being set it on the throne.

  53. And we also talk about the, we understand the ultimate victory of Jesus and

  54. certainly the final judgment.

  55. And there's four major interpretations of the book of Revelations.

  56. The first one is the preterist, P-R-E-T-E-R-I-S-T.

  57. They say that the whole book of Revelations was fulfilled by the destruction of Jerusalem in 70 AD.

  58. Now, the problem with that is they don't believe that, like right now,

  59. they don't believe there's going to be a rapture. They don't believe in the second coming.

  60. They believe everything in the book of Revelations was fulfilled in 70 AD.

  61. There's an idealist version. These are not literal events, but symbolic of spiritual truths.

  62. Then there's the historicist, that most of it has been fulfilled.

  63. And then there's the futurist version, that mostly of the book of Revelations is still future.

  64. Now, I'm somewhere in the middle between the historic and the future,

  65. because if that was written 2,000 years ago, I would say surely some of the

  66. things that he wrote about have come to pass.

  67. Now, I believe that it's inspired by God. I believe that's what the Lord wants

  68. us to know, and there's things we can learn.

  69. The Bible even pronounces a blessing on those that read the book of Revelations and study it.

  70. And then there's three different views of the millennium.

  71. There's the premillennials, that Christ will come to the earth before the thousand-year millennium.

  72. There is called postmillennium, that Christ will come to the earth after the millennium.

  73. And then there is a millennius that there is no literal millennium.

  74. You know, you can find people believe about anything.

  75. You know, there's always a bunch of different views.

  76. And I noticed at IBC, the Bible College, as far as the tribulation,

  77. views of the rapture, let me talk about that real quick.

  78. Pre-trib, the rapture will take place before the tribulation.

  79. The mid-tribulation, the rapture will take place in the middle of the tribulation.

  80. And then there's post-trib, the rapture will take place after the Great Tribulation.

  81. And I'm pretty much a pre-trib, but I really am a pan-tribulant.

  82. It'll all pan out one way or the other. That's what I really think.

  83. And I'm going to tell you, the longer the Lord tarries, the more we can see it unfolding.

  84. And so, but any of these views,

  85. the only thing I know of that has been declared something to stay away from,

  86. even the United Pentecostal Church, If you believe in the preterist doctrine, you can't get a license.

  87. There was a big stink over this a few years ago.

  88. A man wrote a book about it and said the book of Revelations was fulfilled.

  89. Jesus came back, and when Jerusalem

  90. was destroyed, that was Jesus coming back, and it caused a big deal.

  91. So they pretty much laid down the law against that idea.

  92. So the introduction of the revelation of Jesus Christ is chapter 1.

    Isaiah 1 chapter mention

  93. Letters to the churches are chapters 2 and 3. The vision of God as a heavenly

  94. ruler and incarnate as a redeeming lamb is chapters 4 and 5.

    Isaiah 4 chapter mention

  95. And then the tribulation on earth is chapters 6 through 18.

    Isaiah 6 chapter mention

  96. Now, this is a futuristic look here.

  97. A lot of people believe that the rapture is when Jesus tells John,

  98. come on up a little higher.

  99. Come on up here. They believe that's the rapture. And everything after the fourth

  100. chapter of the Revelations is after the rapture.

  101. But I don't know about all that. You know, I don't know. I just,

  102. sometimes you got to be smart enough to say, I don't know.

  103. Worst thing you can do is be hard-headed about something and act like you know

  104. it all. Because we don't know it all, do we?

  105. Because there's things that's happened since some of the old timers.

  106. There are those that didn't believe that Israel was going to become a nation

  107. again until after the rapture.

  108. Well, guess what? Israel's been a nation for 50 years or more now.

  109. And so we just have to, the idea is just be ready when Jesus comes.

  110. I said the idea is to be ready and understand that we are in the end time, though.

  111. I believe that. I totally believe with all my heart. Wherever we're at, we're towards the end.

  112. And that means it depends what your viewpoint is. The end, we could say,

  113. means that rapture is about ready to take place anytime.

  114. There's nothing left to withhold the rapture. There's no scripture that needs

  115. to be fulfilled before the rapture takes place.

  116. And let me say this, if you are a person that believes in the pre-trib rapture,

  117. then you better be ready to go because it's fixing to wind up.

  118. I'm telling you that right now.

  119. And either way, we need to be ready that whatever comes our way, don't we?

  120. Amen. Because we don't know. And the only problem I have with the mid-trib or

  121. the post-trib, especially the post-trib,

  122. is that doctrine says, well, this has all got to happen before Jesus comes.

  123. And the problem is when the Lord doesn't want us to put things off,

  124. you know, it's like Jesus told parables.

  125. They say, well, we got, you know, it's like the kids.

  126. If your mom and dad's gone on vacation, then they've partied all week.

  127. While mom and dad has gone, the house is all tore up, you know,

  128. and they had their friends over and they got old pizza sitting around and they

  129. got pop bottles laying around and the beds ain't been made and the carpet hadn't

  130. been swept and they look at the counter and say, well, we're good.

  131. Mom and Dad ain't going to be home for another few days.

  132. Then mom and dad show up. We come home early. We want to be ready whenever Jesus comes.

  133. And I have a feeling about any doctrine that says, well, he's not coming yet.

  134. I think the way we should teach it is Jesus is coming, and we need to be ready for the rapture. Amen.

  135. Jesus is coming, and we need to be ready for the rapture.

  136. So in the tribulation, the visions of God, we talked about that.

  137. And then the tribulation, now, there's going to be the seven seals,

  138. the four horses, that's chapter six.

  139. The Bible talks about tribulation saints, that's verse chapter seven.

  140. And that could be us, the saints, or it could be Israel as tribulation saints.

  141. The Bible talks about seven trumpets. Now, there's also another view of the

  142. revelation, another way of looking at revelations, you've got to figure it out

  143. and think about, is some people think it all happens together.

  144. You know, seven, eight, nine, 10, and all these visions happen right after one another.

  145. You know, it's all in chronological order.

  146. And I don't know about that because sometimes I look at it and one chapter doesn't

  147. make, it doesn't, to me, I have trouble putting chapter, this chapter with that

  148. chapter, just making it fit.

  149. But if I look at it where John is on the Isle of Patmos and he sees a vision

  150. of 144,000, let's say, and then he sees that vision, he writes that down And

  151. then I look, it's in my brain.

  152. It's like he, you know, a little while goes by and then he looks over here and

  153. he sees another vision and he sees something else. He sees the four horsemen or whatever.

  154. And he writes all this down. But I'm not sure if it's all supposed to happen

  155. in chronological order.

  156. And that's my, that could be, could be my ignorance book.

  157. But we're looking at it as a futuristic viewpoint tonight, as the tribulation

  158. is ahead of us, the rapture is ahead of us.

  159. So the seven seals, the tribulation saints, seven trumpets, chapters eight and

  160. nine, chapter 10 is seven thunders.

  161. The two witnesses, chapter 11, the woman, Israel, and the male child, chapter 12,

  162. and then the beast and the world political ruler and government,

  163. The false prophet, the mark, is in chapter 13, and that's where we kind of want

  164. to go tonight real quick, but we'll go on past that, and then we'll come back to that, all right?

  165. 144,000 tribulation saints in the preview of judgment, chapter 14.

  166. Seven bowls, the vials of divine wrath, chapter 15 and 16.

  167. Then there's mystery Babylon, the woman on the beast, which is the world religious system, chapter 17.

  168. City Babylon, the world economic system, chapter 18.

  169. The return of Christ to the earth, chapter 19. Now, we do believe that is coming.

  170. All right. Now, my friend, Brother Means, he was a, what's that word they use?

  171. Brother Means was a post-trip.

  172. He believed Jesus comes back.

  173. You know, the world goes through the judgment. God pours out his judgment,

  174. the rapture, the church, and Jesus comes back. It all happens at one time, right at the end.

  175. And sometimes I look at it and that makes sense, you know, because some things

  176. in prophecy kind of make me scratch my head.

  177. Like one of the popular views is the rapture.

  178. You know, we go up into heaven, receive our reward. the world goes through the tribulation.

  179. Jesus comes back with his saints, and then he has a thousand-year millennium

  180. where the devil's put into the pit, but then the devil's released again,

  181. and then you have the final battle for good and evil, the battle of Armageddon,

  182. and then that's when there's a new heaven and a new earth.

  183. Now, that's what a lot of apostolic people believe.

  184. That's the way they see it, but sometimes things to me don't make sense,

  185. and that could be my problem.

  186. But if you put it, why would he put the devil? Now, of course,

  187. the question why God would do something, it's kind of folly too.

  188. But why would God put the devil in the pit for thousands? Why let him out again?

  189. You got him in the pit. What are you going to let him out there for?

  190. You know, so of course, now if God does that, that's God knows what he's doing. Okay.

  191. I mean, God knows what he's doing. Okay.

  192. He does know what he's doing. I'll give him that. So now remember,

  193. we're looking at this. The Bible says we look through a glass darkly.

  194. In other words, when we look at the mirror of things in life and prophecy and

  195. God, we look at it in a mirror that's fuzzy, not a real good polished mirror

  196. where we see a real clear reflection.

  197. That's what that means. We look through a glass darkly. We see a fuzzy mirror.

  198. We kind of see the outlines. We kind of understand what's going on,

  199. but we really don't know, and we really can't really make it out.

  200. We see an outline. That looks like a person, but I don't know who did it.

  201. That's what that means. So that's where we are. But I want to go tonight to that chapter 13.

  202. And I know I sent it to Brother Rob today because he's interested in that kind of stuff.

  203. But I was kind of reading today, and let's look at 13. real quick.

  204. Now, a beast is a government. I do know that.

  205. The beast. When you read Daniel, Daniel saw the beast coming up,

  206. and he saw these different beasts, or Daniel saw the image of the man,

  207. but he saw these different beasts, and the angel tells him that those beasts

  208. are governments that will arise.

  209. Okay, so we know when the Bible talks about the beast, it's talking about a

  210. government. We do have that understanding.

  211. And then the Bible told me, and you see a beast rising up out of the sea,

  212. having seven heads and 10 horns.

  213. And the Amplified says, I stood on a sandy beach and I saw a beast coming up

  214. out of the sea with 10 horns and seven heads.

  215. On his horns, he had 10 royal crowns, diadems, and blasphemous titles upon his heads.

  216. And the beast I saw resembled a leopard, and his feet were like those of a bear,

  217. and his mouth was that of a lion.

  218. And to him the dragon gave his own might and power and his own throne and great dominion.

  219. Okay, those heads would be different governments all joining together to make

  220. up this one world government.

  221. And how many can understand and see that we're heading to a one world government?

  222. All right. So, and then he said, they that worshiped the dragon gave,

  223. which gave power to the beast, they worshiped the beast saying,

  224. who's like unto the beast and who's able to make war with him.

  225. And there were given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies

  226. and power was given unto him to continue 42 months.

  227. And he opened his mouth with blasphemy against God to blaspheme his name and

  228. his tabernacle and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto him to make

  229. war with the saints, to overcome them.

  230. Power was given to him over all kindreds, tongues, and nation.

  231. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written

  232. in the book of life of the Lamb, the book of life of the Lamb slain from the

  233. foundation of the world.

  234. And he says, if any man hear, let him hear.

  235. Listen to this. This is serious stuff. and what we're seeing in our world today. Now I'm 67.

  236. It's 2025.

  237. Now I have been around apostolic churches since I can remember, okay?

  238. My family were away from God. I was away from God for years.

  239. But when I was a little boy, six, seven years old, and I would go to church,

  240. they would, Sister Cox would understand this.

  241. They talked about the coming one world government and they preached about one

  242. world money and they preached about the mark of the beast and they preached

  243. about not being able to buy or sell without the mark, okay?

  244. And they would really preach about those that took the mark couldn't be saved.

  245. And that, you know, everybody gets scared, which they should. Okay. But now listen.

  246. So I've heard that for, if I'm 67 now, I've heard that for 60 years.

  247. But I want to tell you in the last 60 years, things have really changed.

  248. Banking. I'll give you a little example. When I started at my job,

  249. I'm retired from there now, but I started there.

  250. Let's see. I worked there 35 years. So I, I been gone four years.

  251. So this is 40 years ago when I first started there, they hurry up and get past here.

  252. Cause I'm running out of time already, but people would have oxygen tanks and

  253. settling tanks and they would send them out 10 and pick up seven.

  254. Well, we had little index cards and they had everybody's account number.

  255. And we, part of my job at that time was to take those tickets,

  256. look at the customer, find the correct number, look at the little cards.

  257. Okay, he returned four of them. We shipped him two of them, left a balance of this.

  258. And every month, they would take that and then put it in the computer to bill

  259. them for the rental on those. And that was all done by hand.

  260. Banking, they used to do all that by hand. All accounting was all by hand.

  261. People, they would be accountants. They would sit in the office.

  262. They would keep all that. How many members, when you put money in the savings,

  263. they used to write it in a little book and give it to you?

  264. Anybody old enough to remember that? I was 16.

  265. I had a little savings account, and it was with some bank out on Pendleton Pike, I remember.

  266. And you'd put $20 in there, and you'd hand it to the lady and make the deposit,

  267. and she'd write $20 in your little book and have your little balance.

  268. And it was called a little savings book.

  269. You kept that. That's how much you, but now how many knows since the computers,

  270. that's all done by hand. Everything's digital now.

  271. Everything's computerized. So this computer thing happening in the last 20 years,

  272. maybe the last 20 years, 25 years, maybe a little longer than that.

  273. Cause we've had computers a little longer than that, but now with artificial

  274. intelligence, there are those that believe that could be the beast.

  275. Even that could be the, there's the beast, which is the government, okay?

  276. And then the false prophet is the, to me, it's the connection of the one world

  277. system, government system aligned with a one world religion.

  278. In other words, you believe what we tell you to believe.

  279. And if you don't believe it and you don't take the mark, then we're going to cut you off.

  280. See, now that has, the part of that, when you look at this in book of revelations,

  281. that has happened in the world.

  282. I don't know what mark they took. I don't know if they actually gave a physical

  283. mark, but there's been a time in our world, if you did not believe a certain

  284. way in the Western world, especially you would be killed.

  285. And it was the Catholic church that did it. The Pope was not only the Pope,

  286. he was the ruler of the Holy Roman empire.

  287. And you did what they told you to do, or you just read about the Spanish inquisition

  288. where they would go in places and they would kill people.

  289. You will become what we tell you to become, or you will not live, okay?

  290. So that being said, so here we are, 2025. Everything's digital.

  291. Anybody got one of these? We all got one, probably.

  292. Kids have them now. The government gives them away.

  293. You know why? The government, we spend our tax money making sure everybody's

  294. connected to the internet.

  295. We want all the kids to have the equal opportunity.

  296. We want everybody hooked up together.

  297. Isn't that right? They want everybody hooked up. And you say,

  298. I'm off the grid. I don't want them knowing what I do. They know what you do.

  299. The world, the government, everybody knows what you do. I don't,

  300. I mean, you know, you can try, you can look at Facebook and look at trucks.

  301. The next thing you know, you've got ads popping up in your phone for trucks for sale.

  302. And it gets even more scary than that. You can be driving down the road talking

  303. to your wife about going on vacation. Next thing you know, you start seeing

  304. ads for vacation homes. Now that's freaky.

  305. That's where we are now. Now, let me look now today.

  306. I don't know if I'm not going to get too deep into the weeds,

  307. but I read this article today. just blew me away, blew me away.

  308. There is an organization in the world today.

  309. It's called the World Economic Forum, and it's all the rich people, all your big people.

  310. Bill Gates, all the people in the world, and these real rich people, and they go,

  311. and it was founded decades ago by a Swiss billionaire and the great grandson

  312. of Fritz so-and-so who founded the drug company Roche.

  313. This man, Larry Fink, who he's in charge now of Blackstone, okay?

  314. Blackstone is the biggest wealth management fund in the world.

  315. And this guy's ahead of it. They handle, I forget, I could look on here real quick.

  316. It's trillion. They handle people's money.

  317. Larry Fink has handled, they oversee $13.5 trillion in their portfolio.

  318. That means they handle, this Larry Fink handled Donald Trump's money.

  319. Okay. You put your money in this fund and they invest it and they make money

  320. and you get returns off of it.

  321. That's why the government wants everybody in 401ks. You put your money in there,

  322. put it in a mutual fund, they call it, and then mutual fund manages the money and invest it.

  323. And there's nothing evil or anything about that, and then you make money hopefully.

  324. Okay. But they got this idea now.

  325. I read this today and it just blew me away. They want to tokenize everything,

  326. and they want everybody to – now, here we go.

  327. So they want everybody to be digitized. They want everybody to have a number.

  328. I can send you this article if you'd like. They want everybody to have a digital

  329. ID number, and they want everybody's assets to be a token, okay?

  330. I can give you the article. This is real life. If this is not something,

  331. this is, you know, Abraham Lincoln said it on the internet. So,

  332. you know, it's got to be real. This is not one of those things.

  333. You know, it's not one of those. This is real stuff here. This is really going

  334. on. You see, there's stuff going on in our world. We don't know about.

  335. And if some people had their way, they don't want us to know about it.

  336. Okay. And I'm not a big conspiracy.

  337. I don't think everything, you know, I'm not a, I'm not real far out on conspiracies,

  338. but when I read this, I realized that I know a little bit about and read a little

  339. bit about the world economic forum. They want to figure out what's best for you.

  340. You know, there's people who think you're not smart enough to figure out.

  341. And I want to tell you the way some people live, they ain't smart enough. That's the problem.

  342. Ignorance is our biggest downfall. My people, the Bible says,

  343. are destroyed for lack of knowledge.

  344. Don't be ignorant. Let me throw this in. Don't be ignorant.

  345. Read, study, think about what's going on in life.

  346. Read your Bible, understand, seek God, get some understanding and what's going

  347. on in the world. Don't go through life as a blind sheep being led along by Hollywood,

  348. telling you what to think, telling you what to wear, telling you how to be.

  349. Amen. Be the individual God wants you to be. Be that person that God created

  350. in his image as an individual. Be an individual.

  351. Amen. Stand up and think for yourself. You know, you got to have a little bit of cynicism in you.

  352. And you got to temper it because you can get buck wild. I mean,

  353. you can go off way out in left field anywhere.

  354. You know, you can go too far left and fall off the road, or you can go too far

  355. right and fall off the road.

  356. But, you know, just to give you an example, have a little fun here real quick.

  357. They say they went to the moon, but I don't know they did.

  358. I wasn't there. I didn't see it. I saw images. They saw images on you.

  359. I've seen images on videos where they showed some guy walking around on something

  360. that looked like the moon.

  361. And now let's be clear, they probably did go to the moon, but I wasn't there.

  362. You see what I'm trying to tell you? How you got to have that?

  363. You got to realize they say they went to the moon and they probably did,

  364. but I wasn't there. I really don't know.

  365. You say, you're crazy. I know it. But I'm going to tell you,

  366. you got to have a little bit of that in you because people will lie to you.

  367. The government will lie to you. The FBI will lie to you.

  368. Man, I read some stuff about there was a group called the Black Panthers back

  369. in the 60s, and I read a big article about how they treated those guys.

  370. And they were, and they made them out to be this radical militant,

  371. and they did bad things eventually, but they didn't start out that way,

  372. but, and the way the FBI has treated people and.

  373. Different things. I want to tell you, the government is not necessarily your best friend.

  374. If you're thinking, I need to look to the government to take care of me,

  375. that's biggest part of the problem.

  376. Hey, man, I don't need, I don't want the government. Now, I'm saying this as

  377. a guy that gets his social security, though. I want that to go through, praise the Lord.

  378. Keep that government shut down. I don't care as long as they cut that social security check.

  379. I understand that. But, you know, I worked 35, 40 years and paid into that.

  380. And if they'd let me had my money out and invested it the way I wanted to,

  381. I'd have had a lot more money than they had for me anyway.

  382. You see, that's why they don't, you know, they, they try to say,

  383. well, look, why not let people invest or take the money that you tax them for social security?

  384. Why not let people invest that themselves or, and put it in a different fund

  385. and it'll make a lot more money.

  386. They don't want to do that because they can't control it. See,

  387. the government can't control the government, the federal government and the

  388. way, and the, the laws they pass and the things they do.

  389. It's all about social engineering.

  390. Oh, we want people to buy houses, so we'll let you write off the interest on

  391. your mortgage. It's all about that.

  392. Token is, this is defined by the, now we knew there was something called BIS,

  393. the Bank for International Settlements.

  394. It's the central bank of central banks.

  395. And a token is an entity or entries in a database that are recorded digitally

  396. contain information and functionally as a token.

  397. A digital token can represent real or financial assets, like your bank account can be a token, okay?

  398. That token could represent what you have in your bank, or your house,

  399. or your car, your bonds, your stocks, real estate, food, all this stuff, gold, everything.

  400. Everything they want, and they

  401. want to tokenize it, okay? I read this just blew me away this morning.

  402. And they want to, they want it. So they want to bottom line here is this.

  403. Listen to this quote here.

  404. This is Fink, the guy that's in charge of the World Economic Forum.

  405. You know, I do believe we're just at the beginning of the tokenization of all

  406. assets from real estate to equity to bonds across the board.

  407. So we look at that as the next wave of opportunity for BlackRock over the next

  408. 10 years as we start focusing on moving away from traditional financial assets

  409. by reporting them in a digital manner and then having people stay in that digital ecosystem.

  410. Okay. Now, but Fink echoed a similar, similar, but let's see who,

  411. that might not have been Fink. Let's see.

  412. It says Fink. Okay. But anyway, so we believe that, okay, I read that.

  413. It will be on one general ledger.

  414. Every investor, you and I will have our own number, our own identification.

  415. We can rid ourselves of all issues around illicit activities around bonds and

  416. stocks and digital by having a tokenization.

  417. We would have instantaneous settlement. Think of all the cost of settling bonds and stocks.

  418. If you had a tokenization everything would

  419. be an immediate because it's just a line item

  420. you got a token your bank that you say you got a thousand dollars that token

  421. would be worth a thousand dollars and they give you a digital id all your assets

  422. are tied to these tokens and you want to pay somebody they tap into that token

  423. they take the split take that part anybody heard of bitcoin come on somebody.

  424. Then and they're saying this will be great this will be great

  425. because it'll all be instantaneous you

  426. your house is a token we have your digital ID on you and we have it on your

  427. phone and we know it's you it's but we it's your number and you know and and

  428. so you want to sell your house you can do it like that you just sell it and

  429. you do it on on all digital they take it out of your token they take that token move it over here you,

  430. other token, put it over here. This guy takes a $100,000 token,

  431. puts it over here. They take your token, which is your house, and put it over there.

  432. And you think, man, that sounds, and see, the problem is, man, heart is evil.

  433. Now, that sounds great. Don't that, you know, how many, we all have debit cards.

  434. Anybody got a digital wallet on your phone? I do.

  435. If I want to put it on a credit card. All you got to do is punch up that card,

  436. go to Speedway, pay for your Diet Coke, click, bleep. And we think, man, that's fantastic.

  437. I just got this card. I need money. The bank ain't open. All I got to do is

  438. go to the ATM, put my debit card in there, get my money out.

  439. It's funny. My son Aaron was little and he was wanting his mom to buy him something.

  440. She said, I don't have no money. He said, well, you got that card, don't you?

  441. He thought as long as you can go to that bank machine, there was money in there.

  442. All you got to do is go get it.

  443. He said well you got the card okay tokenization

  444. is turning real world assets stocks bonds

  445. into digital tokens traded online each token certifies the ownership of a specific

  446. assets it's like a digital deed okay okay and they and see now this article

  447. gives you all the reasons why we should do this.

  448. It makes for fractional ownership. You can own half a token.

  449. You can own the other half of the token.

  450. That assets can be sliced into infinitely small pieces.

  451. Private real estate can be a token. Private equity, your stocks, your bonds.

  452. Like if you own a bunch of stock, you can vote that you have right to go to

  453. the stock board meeting. You don't have to go to the meeting.

  454. You can vote for your stocks online. Everything.

  455. Because you have your digital ID. Folks, that's where it's going.

  456. Brother Rob, I think he told me about it the other day a few weeks ago.

  457. Britain is getting ready to have everybody have a digital. If you want to work

  458. in Britain. Now, listen to me.

  459. If you want to work in Britain, you have to have a digital ID number.

  460. You cannot get a job without a digital ID number.

  461. India already does that. I think like New Zealand, I can't remember.

  462. There's other nations that have already given people digital IDs.

  463. That is you. That's your number.

  464. And they say, well, we're doing that because all these illegal immigrants,

  465. you know, we want to know who people are.

  466. Sure, that's fine. I understand that. But I want to tell you,

  467. there's something happening, folks.

  468. I want to tell you what's going on. What you're seeing is the fulfillment of this right here.

  469. What you're seeing and what we're reading, and this is not far out.

  470. I mean, it sounds far out.

  471. 50 years ago, you wouldn't have had a clue what they were talking about today.

  472. We wouldn't have known what they were. What are you talking about, digital?

  473. But now, even the youngest ones, little kids can work them phones better than

  474. we can. They can work them iPads.

  475. Two years old, sitting there on an iPad playing a game. And I want to tell you,

  476. the devil's just sucking everybody. It's like a vortex, just sucking everybody right on in.

  477. You know, we embrace a lot of things we might not need to embrace so wholeheartedly. You know that?

  478. So financial transactions usually demand rigorous identity checks,

  479. Apple Pay, credit cards.

  480. Now, listen, we need a new digital identity verification system.

  481. It sounds complex, but India, the world's most populous country has already done it.

  482. Today, over 90% of Indians can securely verify transactions directly from their smartphones.

  483. You want to sell a house, sell it right from your phone.

  484. What are you saying, Brother Young, as we get ready to close?

  485. I'm saying if you're pre-trib, you better get ready to go because it's time.

  486. If you believe in the rapture before the tribulation, you better tie your knot

  487. and get right with God because it could happen any day.

  488. And I believe that. I believe Jesus. And I think that's the way we should look at it.

  489. That's the problem with post-trib and those that put things off.

  490. I don't think the Lord wants. Paul thought the Lord was coming back in his day.

  491. And we need to think that Jesus could split the sky tonight.

  492. And that's what people need to think about. That ought to put some fear in your heart.

  493. Amen. There's coming a day that the world is going to have certain systems.

  494. And you read this and he doeth great wonders and fire and he deceives them that

  495. dwell on the earth by the means of those miracles, which he had power to do.

  496. This is the false prophets saying to them that dwell on the earth that they

  497. should make an image to the beast and the beast that was dead and now lives

  498. and give power, and we need to worship this beast.

  499. It's time to be right with God, folks. I'm telling you, there's a rapture getting

  500. ready to happen, and for the most part, I'm a pre-trip because when I read certain

  501. scriptures and have an understanding, I see that...

  502. Just certain things that tell me that the rapture happens first,

  503. because the Bible talks about the Gentiles being a Gentile bride to make Israel jealous.

  504. God turns back to Israel. I don't know if that's before the rapture, after the rapture.

  505. I don't know about all that, but I do know it's time for us to be ready.

  506. I said it's time to be ready. If you don't have the Holy Ghost,

  507. you need to be full of, without the Spirit of Christ, you're none of His.

  508. Now listen to this. I'm quote in Bible now, that same spirit that raised Christ

  509. from the dead, if that same spirit that raised Christ from the dead dwelleth

  510. in you, it will quicken your,

  511. what time is it? 9, 8.37 or 8.38 on November, what is the day?

  512. The 5th. November 5th, 2025, 8.37.

  513. Jesus could come back at 8.40. And you need to get the Holy Ghost.

  514. I'm trying to preach God into your life and let you know what this Bible says

  515. is true and it's happening. And we are in the.

  516. Life, the millennium, last judgment, eternal life, new heaven, new earth. It's coming.

  517. And where are we in the book of Revelations exactly? I don't know,

  518. but I know if we're not happening in 13, chapter 13, that we looked at,

  519. it's on its way because we can see it.

  520. Open your eyes and see what's going on, man.

  521. And have, listen, here's what, here's the problem. Here's the problem.

  522. I'm trying to quit, okay?

  523. I'm going to go maybe it's 840. I'm going to maybe five more minutes.

  524. I know we're a little longer, but it ain't going to hurt us none.

  525. I said it ain't going to hurt us none.

  526. We're living in the last few hours and the last few days, and it's time to be right with God.

  527. He could come at any time.

  528. Jesus could split the sky at any time.

  529. New heaven, new earth, return of Christ, the world economic system,

  530. this one that they're trying to build will fall.

  531. That's Revelation chapter 18. And I'm not sure exactly where we are,

    Revelation 18 chapter mention

  532. but I want to tell you it's wrapping up now. It's wrapping up.

  533. And the problem is, here's the problem. People don't know their Bible.

  534. Kids today don't go to church. They don't know the Bible.

  535. They think the best thing in the world. They think those digital phones are the best thing.

  536. They think digital, it's just fantastic. It's great.

  537. Everything, you know, people don't carry cash anymore. They use digital and

  538. they all, and our world is marching in lockstep to the plan of the adversary.

  539. Know nothing about the mark of the beast. There's some people that there's a

  540. generation out there, but I want to tell you, there's coming a time that people in our world,

  541. if the church doesn't do its job and if people are out there and they don't

  542. know the Bible, they don't know anything about what God's talking about.

  543. They don't know anything about the time the Bible prophesied about a digital

  544. system, a mark and all that, and how one world government and everything.

  545. They don't understand that that's in the plan and the workings of humanity,

  546. and that's part of the system. They don't know.

  547. So they just, the world is under the prince and power of the air,

  548. and they march in lockstep to his commands.

  549. Oh, you say, Brother Young, that's pretty wild. I know it is.

  550. But it's happening just like God said it would happen. There's going to be a

  551. one world currency, folks.

  552. And it looks like it's going to be a digital currency. There's coming a day,

  553. and we might be even closer to this than you think, about one world government.

  554. We have a United Nations, but they don't have much power right now.

  555. And that's why they hate Donald Trump so much, because he's not into the one

  556. world thing. He's into America first.

  557. And this is not political, but this is just the way it is. The reason they hate

  558. him so is because he's trying to dismantle a lot of the stuff they put together.

  559. And, you know, but regardless of what men say, I was thinking about this today,

  560. you know, radio hosts, we've got to save our country.

  561. We've got to. And they talk about stuff and they say, well, I'm going to tell you what.

  562. I don't know if they can talk about that all they want to. I don't know if it's going to help or not.

  563. Trump might change things for a while, but New York City yesterday elected an

  564. Islamic social Democrat, quote-unquote, communist mayor yesterday.

  565. You go up to Dearborn, Michigan, right now, ladies and gentlemen,

  566. a certain time of day, you start hearing the horns or the Islamic call to prayer

  567. in the city. I mean, this is America, folks.

  568. It's happening. Things are happening. And now do I know what the one world government will be?

  569. I know what Floyd Matthews thought, but I ain't going to tell you.

  570. I'll put it like this. Let me say this. There are those that believe that the

  571. one world government that we have to watch out for is the spread of Islam in the world.

  572. Taken over the world. Look at Britain. There are places in Great Britain where

  573. the police are not allowed to go, that you're not allowed in here.

  574. We rule this as a Muslim area.

  575. They want their own courts. They want everything.

  576. I'm just being honest here. So I don't know about this one world government,

  577. how it's all going to shape up.

  578. But I do know that the Pope gave, who was that?

  579. Oh, the Pope the other day, the other day I heard it.

  580. Well, he didn't want to make the Muslims mad. So he gave them their own prayer

  581. room over there at the Vatican, folks.

  582. The Pope gave the Muslims a place to pray at the Vatican. I'm not making this stuff up.

  583. All I'm doing is keeping my eyes open, reading what I read and hearing what

  584. I hear, cutting through most of, you know, you can tell what's junk and trying to understand it.

  585. I'm not trying to be a conspiracy theorist. I'm trying to tell somebody,

  586. get the Holy Ghost tonight.

  587. Get right with God tonight because Jesus is coming. It's wrapping up faster

  588. than we could ever imagine. Let's stand.

  589. I think we ought to raise our hands right now, Jesus.

  590. Thank you for listening to our podcast. Southwest Apostolic Church is a place of refuge.

  591. If we can help you, we'd be glad to do it. Pastor's cell number, 317-469-3100.

  592. If we can help you, we'd be glad to do it. God bless.