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Lift Up The Standard Pt 5

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  1. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the program. We are your host,

  2. Janine Jose and myself Matthew. Welcome to the program. Tonight, we

  3. have another installment in the Lift Up the Standard series. This time we're going

  4. to be covering where that's mentioned in Isaiah sixty two. And Isaiah sixty two

  5. is quite a bit too to digest, to say the least. It's it

  6. is a boy. It comes right out and tells you, face to face

  7. exactly what God intentions are, whether that's for good or bad. And when

  8. you read it, it's he kind of relays it like that. He really

  9. doesn't care if you consider it good or about it or not. He's just

  10. telling you the way it is. So it can be very harsh and can

  11. be very hard for people who you know, in the classroom before. I've

  12. had people do this just this one chapter, not a part of a greater

  13. study of Isaiah or anything like that. And sometimes the students take it really

  14. hard. They're like, what what is? What is what's God trying to

  15. say? You know, And some of them that have the wherewithal to understand,

  16. like, well, we'll wait a minute, what's what's the historical context,

  17. What what is this actually talking about? When did this actually happen?

  18. So this happened when san acrob came in. Because this is Isaiah. You

  19. know, you want all the eating answers. But unfortunately the Lord, he's

  20. God and he's no respect of persons. And of course his children are going

  21. to be informed of what's to come, whether they like it or not,

  22. they are going to be informed. So with that in mind, Jose,

  23. why don't you lead us out tonight in prayer? Sure, Dear Lord,

  24. I continually give you thanks and praise for allowing us to gather together. I

  25. know how press just that is, I know how many other things we're trying

  26. to pull us in a million different directions, and so I thank you for

  27. giving us this time. I thank you for allowing us to record this,

  28. archive it and pass it on to the ecclesia and beyond. And Lord,

  29. I thank you for allowing our families to give us this time as well.

  30. Everyone needs our attention, Lord, especially our families. And so we know

  31. that though broadcast this study is important, we also recognize how it's pulling us

  32. away from our other responsibilities. But regardless, STRD, we are thankful for

  33. allowing us to gather together. We get thanks and praise continually for your blessing,

  34. and we ask all of this in the name of your Son, our

  35. Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. Amen. Amen, Amen, and Amen.

  36. Well Janine, Uh, what's your opening comments on this chapter or at

  37. least this stanza? This is a triumphal It rings to me as a triumphant

  38. entry into the city of our God. I agree, I uh. I

  39. can visualize your point of view. Let's let's put it that way. I

  40. can visualize your point of view. Jose what's your opening comments? Well,

  41. Matthew, especially the stanza in question, Um, it was contrasted to me

  42. to what's being said in Isaiah Isaiah forty m as well as what's what's said

  43. in the Gospels, right says where God says to clear the way for the

  44. Lord in the wilderness. Well, this has clear away for the people.

  45. And that really struck me that that those two, um, you know,

  46. those two phrases are being contrasted there. So this is God directly talking to

  47. us. Um. Boy, it's kind of like like two two flashpoints,

  48. right, a start point and an endpoint here and and where he's telling us

  49. here, what what's coming, what is to come? This is his promised

  50. Matthew of our redemption, UM, and the way he phrases it in this

  51. chapter is beautiful. Well, you know, I'm going to tell everybody a

  52. little secret and you might be surprised. UM. In my private prayers U,

  53. when I'm specifically praying about a location. That is to say, every

  54. day I pray for my home, I pray for reader every day. If

  55. I was to pray for let's say, Phoenix where Jose is, or if

  56. I was to pray for Fargo, where Janine is, everybody needs to understand

  57. that I incorporate in that a plea to the Lord my God, to take

  58. me where he has been. Now until you follow through with what Jose was

  59. talking about. That In Isaiah chapter forty, which is the timeline as it

  60. pertains to us personally, it says prepare way for the Lord. This chapter

  61. switches it up and says prepare way for the people. Because you need to

  62. understand, the only safe place on creation after God loses his temper is the

  63. place where he has been. Okay, this is what happened for forty years

  64. in the wilderness, right, Jose. Yes. For some reason, people

  65. get into their thick skull, that this only happened a couple of times.

  66. No, for the entire forty years, this is what happened. The pillar

  67. of the cloud would ascenned, or if it was a night, the pillar

  68. it would as sinned. All the Israelites would assembol, they'd pack up their

  69. tents and get ready to march. Then they would blow the silver trumpets and

  70. the pillar would move, and wherever it rested, that's where they sat camp

  71. again, literally stepped by steps. The Israelites would only go where God had

  72. been once he sat down, once he was there, then they set up

  73. camp where he had been. Okay, so it would stay there. But

  74. with these two, not just these two, it's not the only time God

  75. does it. But with this narrative, you understand that we must following his

  76. footsteps. We literally have to go where he's been. We follow behind him,

  77. and once he picks the spot, then we gather around him. But

  78. he gets there first. He's the one that arrives first, and we follow

  79. him and we arrive at that place where he's been. So this is a

  80. very important thought process, and you all need to know that that I incorporate

  81. that when I'm praying about a particular location. I will always include that,

  82. Lord, please bring your children to where you've been. I've been doing that.

  83. I can't even tell you. I mean, in my mind, I've

  84. always prayed it whenever I'm praying for a particular location, even though I can

  85. tell you when I was taught to do that, that's your regardless. In

  86. my mind, that's what I always do when I'm crying about any city or

  87. country or any location. So it's pretty wonderful that jose would bring that out

  88. that here Odd's obviously doing something different because he's saying, prepare the way for

  89. the people. Well, that means by default, that means this is after

  90. the Great day of the Lord. Let me say that again. This must

  91. be after the Great Day of the Lord. Time is going to be different

  92. after that day. You're going back to the days of Noah, whatever that

  93. means. Because the time of Noah is different than our time. There is

  94. a different amount of you know, days in a year. He comes out

  95. many ways and tells you this in the Book of Revelation. Many ways he

  96. tells you this. So it's pretty siding just to just to understand that much

  97. what's happened where it's went where it's going. So you know, we should

  98. go ahead and read this part of the narrative just from itself. So,

  99. Jane, can you read Isaiah chapter sixty two, the three verses ten through

  100. twelveth place. Yes, the chapter is actually entitled Zion's Glory and New Name,

  101. which I think is very significant. Verse ten, go through, go

  102. through the gates, clear the way for the people, build up, build

  103. up the highway, remove the stones, lift up a standard over the peoples.

  104. Behold, the Lord has proclaimed to the end of the earth. Say

  105. to the daughter of Zion Lowe, your salvation comes. Behold. His reward

  106. is with him, and his recompense before him. And they will call them

  107. the Holy people, the redeemed of the Lord. And you will be called

  108. sought out a city, not forsaken. Very strange, you know, Jose,

  109. what do you make of that that that wherever or whatever this is this

  110. city case of wherever it's located, because now you have to give it.

  111. It's so now he's calling this place prepared a city, right, Jose,

  112. Yes, Okay, So now we've got so many different names that he calls

  113. it. He calls it is vineyard, right, right. I mean he's

  114. got several names for this, but here wherever we gather. So just imagine

  115. this, ladies and gentlemen, whenever the pillar would ascend from the tabernacle and

  116. take off moving, and those people would follow it. And when it got

  117. wherever it was going and it sat down, the people would as symbol around

  118. it set up the tents. Again, that was actually a city. God

  119. is calling it a city here and boy is he jo what do you make

  120. a verse eleven? What does that mean? Behold the Lord is proclaimed to

  121. the end of the earth? What what? What? So? So,

  122. Jose, we would agree that if we were talking to geophysicist naturally, what

  123. they would say the end of the earth was would be the south pole,

  124. right, because that's the negative pole of this planet. You would have to

  125. say, logically speaking, if there's an end of the world, it would

  126. be the point that the negative field is played into this plant, which would

  127. be the south pole, right. So it would that be a reasonable suggestion.

  128. Yeah, it could be, Matthew, especially considering again how desolate it

  129. is. It's like, you know how hard it is to get there,

  130. it's when you reach there, it's like you reached the end of the world.

  131. Aside from all those scientific principles that you're bringing up. Yes, I

  132. would agree that most people would consider that the end of the world. Now

  133. let me switch it up. You know this this word in Hebrew, it

  134. means end or extremity, right, So, right, are we wrong?

  135. Is he's saying that he is proclaimed this to the end of time? Now?

  136. Now, now we know when that I mean, we know when that

  137. events happens. That event happens when Satan is released from the abyss right right,

  138. and that just ticks him off for the last time, and he comes

  139. down and recreates everything right, right, he creates a new Heaven and new

  140. Earth. So is that what he's talking about, that end of the earth,

  141. because that's when it's done. God recreates the heavens and the earth,

  142. right, So, so that's when that is the extremity of the years?

  143. So or is he talking about both? What what's your thoughts? Well,

  144. Matthew, if if this is talking about where heaven ends and the earth begins,

  145. it could mean both, right, you mean that that's kind of like

  146. that that point of singularity that that your scientists like to talk about. But

  147. that point where or that point of separation against Matthew well, you know when

  148. you immediately said that, it brought something else to mind. Jose, are

  149. you talking about where the two touch. Yes, that's what I'm trying to

  150. say. Yes, okay, because that's not what I got from what you

  151. were saying. I mean, I understood what you were saying. And of

  152. course we had some we had some interjection there. We had to mute uh

  153. Janine's mike. I'm not sure what was going on, sound like she answered

  154. the phone or something. But um, this is really what we're talking about.

  155. And this is the idea you keep getting that God is going to rule

  156. from Mountain Zion. That's where his throne is, his Mount Zion. But

  157. when Jesus is ruling in Jerusalem, that's why it gets terriformed. And that's

  158. why there's this um this fountain that flows out from underneath the Millennial Temple right

  159. right, and it's it states quite plainly that that place is elevated above every

  160. place on the earth, because of course you realize from the other scriptures.

  161. It's saying that, well we've talked about this many times, that he's going

  162. to put the sea back in the storehouses, right, and he says that

  163. it's going to make a broad plane on the earth. There's no debating That's

  164. what God's words says. So is this that magical place? It's it's it's

  165. talking about that that that this is where heaven you know, this is where

  166. the basement in heaven meets the attic of the earth. Right, this is

  167. where the two touches. So now that we say that that that really opens

  168. up this passage, especially to the Hebrew interpretation, because when you take these

  169. three verses and just go through your strongs and do the best you can and

  170. look at the original text, you realize that, wait a minute, this

  171. could be saying multiple things. And that's the problem, ladies and gentlemen.

  172. It is saying multiple things. It is saying multiple things. So, boll

  173. I hope we didn't lose Janine. She has muted herself. No, I'm

  174. here. My husband's got the phone and he has removed it from the room.

  175. Sorry about that, No, no, biggie. Um. In my

  176. opinion, Jim can do no wrong anyway, So don't worry about it.

  177. Um. So your thoughts on what what jose and I was talking about?

  178. If you were able to catch it, Janine, what's your what's your thoughts

  179. on that exactly what you said, Um, you could read that a bare

  180. minimum of two ways, the end of the earth geographically, the end of

  181. the earth temporally, the end of the earth liturgically. There's it can mean

  182. any or all at the same time. That's the misery of God any and

  183. all. So are you saying, Janine, that this scripture is saying that's

  184. where this standard is going to be. I think I view the standard as

  185. a movable thing. You know, when you see the movies with the Knights,

  186. you know, like they have a movie about the Knights Templar and they're

  187. they're following this the dude on the horseback with the pole and the flag on

  188. the top. That's what I envision when that verse comes up, or that

  189. word comes up, that we're following something similar to that, and it moves,

  190. just as the pillars moved, the clouds and the fire. And that's

  191. what I guess I'm trying to say, is this stand and we can just

  192. use that. What if that's what the pillar of cloud and the pillar of

  193. fire was. It was where Heaven touched the earth. Oh perfect, yes,

  194. And well the problem with that is is that the Lord, he's God

  195. So if he says that's in ten buck two, it's in ten bull two.

  196. Hey man, who says that's in Atlanta, Georgia, guess where it's

  197. going to be, Atlanta, Georgia. So when you visualize it in your

  198. mind, it's quite breathhaking to realize that that point is not fixed and he

  199. can move it wherever it is. But this is kind of what it's saying

  200. here verse ten. Go through, go through the gates, clear the way

  201. for the people, build up, build up the highway, remove the stones,

  202. lift up the standard over the people's it's that you telling thing to do?

  203. That is he trying to explain? Is he trying to relate to his

  204. people that no matter where you're at, you're going to transgress and Einstein rosen

  205. Bridge and wind up at that standard. Because I have long argued, and

  206. you both are familiar with. Maybe everybody's not listening to my voice has ever

  207. heard me talk about this, but I have covered this extensively that this may

  208. very well be what Ezekiel's wheels are. It's two ends of a straw.

  209. Now you don't know what I'm talking about until you've closed one of your eyes

  210. and peered down a straw and realized it's two wheels. You see a circle

  211. at the end of the straw, and you see this circle. But in

  212. order to make a perfect bridge to the far circle has to be perfectly in

  213. the center of the near circle. Is he saying that when he punches in

  214. to our upper atmosphere? Is this saying that there is this stating that it's

  215. making a bridge to where he is. I would say that because the reward

  216. and the recompense are with him. They're not a reward or a recompense if

  217. you don't get them. And we get that into tribulation as well, right

  218. mhm. Because if you're in the outer darkness, you're worse than dead,

  219. yes, and we would agree wish for death. Well not let me say

  220. that again. Not only you are worse than dead, yes, and wherever

  221. God has been you are more. Listen, ladies and gentlemen, this is

  222. what this is saying. You are more than alive. So if you don't

  223. find yourself at that standard, you're less than dead. But if you do

  224. find yourself at that standard, you're more than a live. And this is

  225. the only real time that verse twelve could come into play. And they will

  226. call them the Holy people, the Redeemed of the Look don't you realize that?

  227. Look at this in Hebrew? And then this is an absolute statement.

  228. So from that point forward, the seraphim is going to call this group the

  229. holy people? Do you understand it that way? From that point forward,

  230. the cherubim is not allowed to call you Janine. Do you understand that this

  231. is removed personal pronouns? They are no longer allowed to address you proper,

  232. Janine? Do you get that? Yeah? Do you frequently hear me address

  233. God proper? I'm not quite certain what that means. Okay, you've heard

  234. me say this many times YVH Right, Yeah, yes, do I frequently

  235. use that from time to time. From from time to and I will always

  236. say that, I'll say, well, gh I usually don't try to pronounce

  237. his name right right, because you don't address God proper. I think I

  238. understand you address God the Son proper. You you say Jesus right, yes,

  239. and I and Jose, Jose can clarify this from thirteen years ago.

  240. I can tell you six different ways to that. People say you could pronounce

  241. God's name. You don't know. No, you don't don't lie. Every

  242. rabbi on this planet will tell you that they think the closest way to pronounce

  243. it is probably how the Samaritans pronounce it. Yeah, they will ask them.

  244. So whatever that thing you've made up, and I'll be very clear.

  245. I'll just give you a few Jehovah, yeah, wall when I could come

  246. up. You know there's five or six. You never hear me say those

  247. things. You don't ever hear you hear me loudly pick off everybody because I

  248. say Jesus name so much, but you would never hear me address my father

  249. properly. He just said that all of creation will never address him proper and

  250. you all should instinctively know that from the Book of Revelation, right Jose,

  251. because it says that he will give you a name that only you will know.

  252. Amen. Amen, Amen. Don't everybody realize that's exact that is saying

  253. that in Revelation, because it's a footnote of what God just said in Isaiah

  254. chapter sixty two. Don't lie, Yes it is. And doesn't Jesus also

  255. get a new name, Yes he does, written on his thigh that who

  256. knows no one knows, Yes, And he's literally saying that you have to

  257. realize, ladies, and gentlemen, do you mean I mean this does not

  258. take a rocket scientist degree. Okay, when you got married, did your

  259. name stay the same? No? No, okay, where can you go

  260. on this planet that that's not the case? Nowhere the Russians you change your

  261. name. There's no place on this planet when somebody gets married the wife does

  262. not assumed a husband's name. Ladies and gentlemen, he is coming and telling

  263. you that you are going to be married to God. And when you're married

  264. to God, yeah, of course you a duh. This is the whole

  265. purpose behind you getting a name that's a secret name that only God knows,

  266. because no one knows the name of God. Very good. So believe me

  267. when I say, ladies and gentlemen, these three verses, they're obviously saying

  268. more than you can process. Amen. Now I'm gonna go one further.

  269. Right now, I'm going to talk about a very complicated thing. It's called

  270. alpha numerics. If you go to any university on the planet, yes,

  271. I mean any university on the planet, you need to know this. When

  272. you start a class on Hebrew, guess what, In the same breath you

  273. will learn the names of the letters. You will learn the number of the

  274. letters. Yes you will. Let me say that again. You will simultaneously

  275. learn the letters at the same time you learn the numbers. Yes, yes

  276. you do. I have text books in this house. I could bring this

  277. up to the camera and show you this. You don't learn what an alef

  278. is at a different time that you learn that it's one, because there's no

  279. such thing as Arabic numerals and Hebrew, I'm telling you, or Greek,

  280. right, or Greek. So, ladies and gentlemen, I'm going to talk

  281. about the alpha numerics here a little bit. It's a little bit. It's

  282. enough to blow your mind. You need to understand something. The two thousand

  283. and three hundred days mentioned in Daniel is the birth pains. That time will

  284. be terminated by the great day of the Lord. That's when the tribulation begins.

  285. That lasts for one thousand, two hundred and sixty days. When you

  286. look at the phrase there in Hebrew that begin verse ten, you have to

  287. remember there's two different methods who calculate Hebrew because there's letters in Hebrew that have

  288. a final form. So when they have a final form, their alphanumericle integer

  289. can increase Okay, I'm trying to relate this in very simple terms. When

  290. you take this phrase beginning in verse ten, it equals one, two and

  291. sixty. When you take the final mems and that kind of thing and calculated

  292. a royal count, that same exact phrase equest to two thousand, three hundred.

  293. Don't even try to convince this mathematician that's statistically possible, because there comes

  294. a point. All mathematicians know this. If the odds are one in a

  295. billion, it's impossible. You cannot achieve that ratio. Now, Jose I

  296. showed you this raise, and do you concur that's what happens with this phrase?

  297. Yes, it is, Matthew. When you calculate it with the standard

  298. count, you come out to one thousand, two hundred and sixty. But

  299. when you calculate it using the royal count, with those with the numerical values

  300. for those final forms, you get twenty three hundred. Ladies and gentlemen,

  301. God is telling you that the end time is comprised of three five hundred sixty

  302. days. It's thirty five sixty. That's what it is. That's what it

  303. means. This is why Jesus Christ gives the terminus event for the setting of

  304. the of the abomination of desolation. That's why he says God puts an end

  305. too. This per the Book of Daniel at that time. This is when

  306. not only time is broken, it's when the Great Day of the Lord happens.

  307. It is the tribulation trigger. You can existentially prove this by the chapter

  308. that jose mentioned earlier, Isaiah chapter forty. Of course, the Book of

  309. Revelation proves it too. The Great Day of the Lord is the sixth Seal.

  310. Event, yes, it is. I mean that sixth Seal is based

  311. on the Book of Joel, not anything else. It's not the Perugie of

  312. Christ. The Perugie of Christ isn't until the end of Revelation, not the

  313. beginning. So now that I've stated that, take a deep breath. We're

  314. gonna have Jeanine read this whole chapter. It's not long, but oh my

  315. goodness, everything it has to say, and it is so bambastic. I

  316. mean, just what we've covered is obviously just off the hook. So you

  317. know, let's let's just let Janine give it to us, the whole nine

  318. yards. Janine, can you read force Isaiah chapter sixty two. Please,

  319. indeed, I shall Zion's glory and new name. For Zion's sake, I

  320. will not keep silent, and for Jerusalem's sake, I will not keep quiet

  321. until her righteousness goes forth like brightness, and her salvation like a torch that

  322. is burning. The nations will see your righteousness and all kings your glory,

  323. and you will be called by a new name, which the mouth of the

  324. Lord will designate. You will also be a crown of beauty in the hand

  325. of the Lord, and a royal diadem in the hand of your God.

  326. It will no longer be said to you forsaken. No to your land,

  327. will it be any longer be said desolate, But you will be called.

  328. My delight is in her, and your land married. For the Lord delight

  329. in you, and to him your land will be married. For as a

  330. young man marries a virgin, so your sons will marry you. And as

  331. the bridegroom rejoices over the bride, so your God will rejoice over you.

  332. On your walls, O Jerusalem, I have appointed watchman all day and all

  333. night. They will never keep silent. You, who remind the Lord,

  334. take no rest for yourselves, and give him no rest until he establishes and

  335. makes Jerusalem a praise in the earth. The Lord has sworn by his right

  336. hand and and by his strong arm, I will never again give your grain

  337. as food for your enemies, nor will foreigners drink your new wine for which

  338. you have labored. But those who garner it will eat it and praise the

  339. Lord, and those who gather it will drink it in the courts of my

  340. sanctuary. Go through, Go through the gates, clear the way for the

  341. people, Build up, build up the highway, remove the stones, lift

  342. up a standard over the people's Behold. The Lord has proclaimed to the end

  343. of the earth, Say to the daughter of Zion, Lo, your salvation

  344. comes. Behold. His reward is with him, and his recompense before him.

  345. And they will call them the Holy people, the redeemed of the Lord.

  346. And you will be called sought out a city not for saken. Man,

  347. that's got a lot to say. Oh that that whole chapter just rings

  348. through me like a like a gong bell um. Jose, what do you

  349. make of this talk of of How could you not say that this is clearly

  350. saying you need to prepare yourself to be a bride. Yeah, hey,

  351. man, I mean I mean, I think, Matthew, maybe a lot

  352. of us Christians that aren't well versed in the Old Testament. Matthew, Yeah,

  353. we know. I'm sorry, we're not. Yeah, we're not two

  354. versed in the Old Testament, and we focus a lot on the New Testament.

  355. We underst stand that Jesus is the bridegroom and we are to be the

  356. bride, and we can cope with that. But when you read Isaiah,

  357. this is not the first time Isaiah has said that God will be your husband.

  358. No, so, so, I mean, that's it's almost you know,

  359. if you just think of as God the Father and God the Son,

  360. and you never know and you never fully understand that the two are one,

  361. you don't know how God can be your husband and Jesus can be your bridegroom.

  362. Matthew. It's just he just comes out and says it here, and

  363. you just can't deny it. You can't deny the fact that if you believe

  364. that Jesus is the bridegroom, then you have to believe that Jesus is God,

  365. because that's what Isaiah is saying here. That's what he says in Isaiah

  366. fifty four and countless other chapters Matthew, and also the Holy Spirit in there.

  367. Let's not forget the Holy Spirit. There you go, hey man,

  368. So ladies and gentlemen, that in mind, let's just let's just think about

  369. what this says here verse five. For as a young man marries a virgin

  370. stole, your sons will marry you. And as a bridegroom rejoices over the

  371. bride, so your God will rejoice over you. You know what there comes

  372. at home when you realize that obviously the English isn't cutting it here. Something

  373. is obviously a whole lot deeper than we thought. Now take note who gets

  374. the short into the stick? This is what I really want to know,

  375. because I'm sorry, this is the first time you've ever heard this. Not

  376. everybody gets to be the bride, Jose. Read verse six for me again.

  377. On your walls, Jerusalem, I have appointed watchman all day and all

  378. night. They will never keep silent. You, who profess the Lord,

  379. take no rest for yourselves, Jose. Somebody gets a short into the stick.

  380. Yes, because for one here we go again. Whatever, And I'm

  381. gonna say whatever, because it's not whoever, these poor watchmen, they never

  382. get a break. He made himself perfectly clear. These poor watchmen never get

  383. all day, Yes that's what it says, and all night yet that they

  384. will never eat. Yeah, that's what it says. So the first thing

  385. this does to me, I mean the first part I understood, because you

  386. know Jose's right. I mean, this ain't our first rodeo. The New

  387. Testament is replete saying that, yes, you're going to be married to Christ,

  388. Yes you are the bride of Christ. It doesn't look it's redundant for

  389. me to even mention it. So verse five is not a real big problem.

  390. But then when he ups the game in verse six, he's not talking

  391. about angels. No, he's not all right, what does this mean?

  392. And give him no rest until he establishes and makes Jerusalem a praise in the

  393. earth. The Lord has sworn by his right hand and by his strong arm.

  394. I'm sorry. He is certainly mentioning two different groups here. I know

  395. how Hebrew works. I'm sitting here looking at it. I understand this is

  396. two groups. One group is saying he's saying is his right hand, and

  397. the other group he's saying is his strong arm. Once again, and like

  398. secession, the two following phrases is two separate things. It mentions enemies and

  399. foreigners. So the twins again, a man, that's one way to put

  400. it, the twins again. But you know, ladies and gentlemen, if

  401. you don't understand what I'm talking about, if this really is your first rodeo,

  402. I hope you realize it that, oh my goodness, you've missed a

  403. great big swath of the Bible, God's Holy Word, because he clearly states

  404. on many occasions, multiple occasions, on many occasions, he states that he

  405. is going to rule with a rod of iron. And whoever that is,

  406. it can't be the bride, can it, Jose, No, it can't,

  407. Matthew. And I think the Lord kind of puts an exclamation point about

  408. that in verse twelve, because when we look at the Hebrew, Matthew,

  409. the first part of that verse, the holy people are redeemed to the Lord.

  410. That whole part is masculine, and the second part you will be called

  411. sought out, a city nut abandoned, that is feminine. See, you

  412. got two groups right there, Matthew. So once again, ladies and gentlemen,

  413. let me guess. Once we pointed it out to you, now you

  414. can't get away from it. He is distinctly in every way, shape and

  415. form, he's relaying to you hyper dimensionally two groups, in every way,

  416. shape and form, that he can do it. And he is doing this

  417. off the center point, making you know that the bride has got nothing to

  418. do with this business. Let me say that again when we undergo, and

  419. I'm just gonna say it, does that have to tell you the truth the

  420. post trip resurrection? And I like, how many people look at these strange

  421. lands. Aren't fidgeting in their seat when I say that, because they know

  422. in their heart of hearts there is no there is no pre trip resurrection.

  423. No, there's not. No, there's not. So once I say it

  424. that way, that usually gets people attention. When we go through the post

  425. trip resurrection. We don't have a job. Okay, look, this is

  426. literally God saying this about you, for as a young man marries a virgin,

  427. so your sons will marry you, and as the bridegroom rejoices over the

  428. bride, so your God will rejoice over you. Do you not get that?

  429. Ladies, you do not have a job for a thousand years. You

  430. have a thousand year honeymoon. Somebody is running God's creation When that happens on

  431. on multiple occasions. He tells you who that's going to be, But it

  432. ain't going to be you. It is not going to be you. Well,

  433. I hope it's not going to be here. But this is overwhelmingly screaming

  434. to you Isaiah chapter sixty two. And guess what if this isn't your first

  435. rodeo, I'll just be the first one to tell you. No, Isaiah

  436. chapter sixty two has never happened. It's never happened, not ever. Nope.

  437. You can read niam I and Ezra all you want to. It never

  438. sets up a circumstance where this prophecy happened after the return of the exiles.

  439. No, no, it think about that thought process, ladies and gentlemen.

  440. If Isaiah chapter sixty two has already happened, Jesus would have never been crucified.

  441. I'm sorry, Jenny. What did the Jews do with Jesus? Did

  442. they? What? What did they do with Jesus? They killed him?

  443. So you and I agree, Isaiah chapter sixty two has never happened. No,

  444. it has never never happened, even in its heyday, in the days

  445. of David and Solomon. Never. Oh, is that your thoughts. No,

  446. I would agree this. This is not taken lace yet, Matthew,

  447. that being cased, this is totally absolutely or word thinking. If you're a

  448. Christian, this is forward thinking well, especially when he references the grain and

  449. the wine, that they will not any longer be eaten by the foreigners.

  450. What do you make of that? Gnie that in the thousand year reign,

  451. that they will carry on as they should have been prior to that, and

  452. that what they earn will be their own, what they labor for in the

  453. fields and the vineyards will be theirs. It will not be taken from them.

  454. They will not be overrun by conquerors who will tax them and take the

  455. goods back to their foreign country. That it will be theirs. So man

  456. in his vineyards, sitting under his tree. So you agree that now we're

  457. talking about the children's conundrum. I'll read it for you. This is what

  458. you needs talking about what happens at the thousand years reign of Christ. But

  459. I was at the end of it. When the thousand years are completed,

  460. okay, God's not stuttering, Satan will be released from his prison and will

  461. come out to deceive the nations, which are the four corners of the yearth

  462. gog and may God to gather them together for war. The number of them

  463. is like to stand on the seashore and they come up where that reference before,

  464. What does God say it is? And they come up on the broad

  465. plane of the earth. Yes, ladies and gentlemen, God's not lying.

  466. In the Psalms, Josi and I have repeatedly showed you that verse. God

  467. says He's going to take the sea and put it back in the storehouses.

  468. From that point forward, the river that issues out from underneath the Millennial Temple

  469. of Christ is a massive freshwater spring that purifies. Yes it does. I'm

  470. not going to argue with you. It just ate at Inverton. They come

  471. up on the broad plane of the earth and surround the camp with the saints

  472. and the beloveod city, and fire came down from heaven and devoured them.

  473. This is in reference to Children's conundrum. How is this possible? So you're

  474. saying that during the thousand years Millennial Reign of Christ there's going to be children

  475. being born. Of course, that's what I'm saying, because that's exactly what

  476. Janine just said. In the Millennial Reign of Christ, there is still going

  477. to be enemies and foreigners. Right, how was the yep? So it

  478. says, And in order to get to the end of that riddle of the

  479. children's conundrum, you'd have to go back to the Exodus, right, Jose,

  480. Right, And you have to realize that God is very clear. Jose

  481. and I have covered it with you before, Ladies and gentlemen, this is

  482. what God says. He specifically when talking to the Israelites, he said,

  483. by the way, your little ones who did not yet know right from wrong,

  484. they will still have to choose. So take note, ladies and gentlemen,

  485. this really is what the Bible says. For one thousand, two and

  486. sixty days, you are going to be in a place prepared for you by

  487. God in that time. The Bible's langly states, And Jose and I talked

  488. about this before. I'm pretty sure that it means eighteen months here. Regardless,

  489. it says that for a time we can't bear fruit. No, this

  490. is my personal opinion, My personal opinion that after a year and a half,

  491. everybody that's been taken to the willedness, they start having babies. But

  492. guess what those babies cannot Based on the text and exodus that Jose and I

  493. shared with you. They cannot participate in the post trip resurrection because they have

  494. not they have not yet decided between good and evil. This is where this

  495. population is coming from. Well, I probably just rattled people's cages. It

  496. is called it has always been called for since the Book of Revelation was written.

  497. It's always been called the children's conundrum. Theologians know about it. But

  498. if you know the Bible, if you understand, God told the Israelites this

  499. about those children that had I mean today we would say, you know,

  500. knew the difference between right and wrong. He makes himself plain that that group

  501. is separate because they didn't. They didn't know between right and wrong, so

  502. certain rules apply to them. Jose, your thoughts, No, it's all,

  503. it's all. I ain't up, Matthew. I was bidding that that

  504. verse that you're talking about in Deuteronomy about the little ones and the first round

  505. before it, since Joshua, the son of Nune, who stands before the

  506. he shall go and thither encourage him, for he shall cause Israel to inherit

  507. it. And again we've said it before Joshua and the Hebrew and the Greek

  508. is Jesus. So, yeah, he's telling us a story about Joshua and

  509. the Old Testament, and he's saying, what's gonna happen when when he enters

  510. the Promised Land? But prophetically you know what he's talking about, Matthew,

  511. right, my kids, it's right in your face. Yeah, And it's

  512. always been their Matthew, which is it's it's kind of frustrating. Why why

  513. why people haven't seen it before? You know why people haven't seen it before?

  514. You mean modern Christians in America. Yes, that's the ones you're really

  515. talking about, right right. It's very important, ladies and gentlemen, that

  516. you research why God got so mad. Here, I'll read it for you.

  517. This is not the only time God says it. This is what made

  518. God so mad. The Israelites said that their children would become prey, and

  519. this is what ticks off God. I'll just read one of them, Deuteronomy

  520. one thirty nine. Moreover, your little ones, who you said would become

  521. prey, and your sons, who this day have no knowledge of good or

  522. evil, shall enter there, And now I will give it to them and

  523. they shall possess it. How many times have I said this? When God

  524. speaks, it's irregardless of time. When God speaks, it's future, it's

  525. past, and it's present. He's not wishy washy like you. He's not

  526. wishy washy like me, because we are slaves to time and indebted to it.

  527. He who sitteth the palm the throne is not I'm gonna say this again,

  528. Jose and I covered it on this very topic when we went over the

  529. Apocalypse of Isaiah. He comes right out and states, there's a period of

  530. time where you won't have children. Then there comes a time when you do.

  531. And I am thoroughly convinced this is following the two year and under rule.

  532. That's what I think. Eighteen months will go by and then we'll start

  533. having babies. That's right. Why all hell is going on in the outer

  534. darkness as God so mad they can't die. I've said this to you.

  535. I don't know how many times that really is what the Book of Revelation says.

  536. He orders death to flee from them in this very wait, it's when

  537. these children will be born, Because, Jose, how many times does God

  538. say, I mean, he not only about having babies, but bearing fruit,

  539. YadA, yad. How many times does he promise you that when these

  540. events happened, we will just will just bear fruit like there's nobody's business.

  541. Right, Yep, that's what he says. So Jose, under the same

  542. exact circumstance of the end time, what would happened to these children when Christ

  543. punches through the upper atmosphere? They have no knowledge of good or evil?

  544. Yet they're under two years old, right, they were born in the place

  545. prepared. Ladies and gentlemen. This is the only answer to the children's conundrum.

  546. Yes it is. It's just. It's just you've never heard anybody preach

  547. Deuteronomy chapter one as if it was real. Yes it is, Yes it

  548. is. When you're looking at the verse before the one I read Deuteronomy chapter

  549. one, verse thirty eight in the Hebrew, that says Jesus, yes it

  550. does, Yes, it does. Let's read verse thirty seven. Maybe eventually

  551. I will convince you to believe it. Verse thirty seven starts out like this.

  552. The Lord was angry with me also on your account, saying not even

  553. you shall enter there. Joshua, the son of None, who stands before

  554. you, he shall enter there. Encourage him, for he will cause Israel

  555. to inherit it. Don't you understand that there is a group in the end

  556. times that fits the bill. This is referring to, of course, it's

  557. referring to Moses. Oh my goodness, I'm not lying to you, Jose,

  558. am my lying. Did Moses enter the Promised Land? No he did

  559. not, Matthew, No he did not. Nor will those of the First

  560. Resurrection. I promise you. They do not get to be the bride of

  561. Christ. I promise you they don't. Those of the First Resurrection are obviously

  562. Christians. They refuse to take the market. What I'm telling you is true.

  563. Revelation Chapter twenty says very plainly to you there is a bride. They're

  564. Christians, and then there is a group of the First Resurrection. They don't

  565. get to be the bride of Christ. They are forced to do a job.

  566. Am I lying, Jose No, Matthew, that's what That's what God

  567. says in this chapter, and that's what he says in every chapter. That's

  568. what he says in every chapter. All right, we're at the top.

  569. M Janine closing comments, Please comments, work on being the bride and don't

  570. whine. Why don't whine that that that is solid, that's rock solid advice

  571. right there. Don't whine, jose you're closing comments, Just that it all

  572. makes sense, Matthew. Um. So many people point out verses that see

  573. that where God seems to contradict himself. But once you understand what is to

  574. come, it all makes sense. It all lines up. It all lines

  575. up. While he says some people are going to be the bride, it

  576. all lines up. While he says some people have a job to do.

  577. It all makes sense what he says about the children. Um, God does

  578. not contradicting himself. He's playing, he repeats himself over and over. If

  579. you just take the time to listen, to understand, and like Nan said,

  580. act like Christian because if you don't, then that Holy Spirit can work

  581. in you. Matthew, And the Holy Spirit can't guide you and instruct you.

  582. Well, I can't add and I can't take away from that. Right

  583. there, solid words of wisdom. Janine, please pray us out of here.

  584. Thank you Father for this blessed, blessed time of fellowship, of learning,

  585. of reading your word, which is always such a treasure. We adore

  586. you, Father. We ask that you bless the rest of our week,

  587. Bless the people that are participating tonight and that I will be hearing this in

  588. the future. Father, we thank you for your son's sacrifice. We thank

  589. you for you in Jesus name. We pray Amen. Amen, Amen,

  590. Ladies and gentlemen, Till next time, God bless, god speed.