028 2 Peter 2 Pt 1

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Draweth Nighe. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the program. We

are your hosts Leonard and Matthew. Tonight, we're going over tewod Peter chapter

two in its relation to the Book of Jude. So, Leonard, you

decided to move on from the Book of Jude and start tackling Second Peter chapter

two. Can you tell us your thoughts on that and what God is here?

Well, you know, it's just the state that we're in right now.

You know, as we were talking before before we recorded, you know,

people better start living like a Christian man, period, you know.

And that's what the Lord has been dealing with me this week too, you

know, with looking at other people and you know, just people that I

even been training. When guy was training, he's a Muslim and he was

sick, so I got off early and his brother works there. I trained

his brother, so I just drove him home and he offered me to come

into his home, gave me tea. You know, they gave me all

kinds of fruit and all kinds of stuff. You know, I was just

praying God, God, you know, help me not to I don't want

to eat the meat that they have, so they didn't. So they just

gave me like garbanzo beans like a soup. And but it's just, you

know, this is like at one in the morning. They did all this

for me, and it just made me look at like other Christian brothers,

how they're very just standoffish with people, you know, right, and this

guy is a Muslim, he knows that I'm a Christian and she just you

know, just and then looking at their family, how they really love each

other, you know, and you know, it was just just blew me

away. You know, the Lord was just showing me the difference between the

two and how you know, us as as believers, that's how we need

to be like that and more because we have the love of Christ in us.

You know, I think that we grew up in this American society where

we've kind of grown up to be isolated in our own homes, in our

own cars, and not to deal with people. And I mean it's not

like out everywhere, but but when you go to other countries, it's different.

Like when I went to Mexico, it's different when they you know,

when they killed the goat, the whole fan, the whole town eight.

You know, it's just different, you know. So, I mean us

here in this Western culture, we have a lot to learn, you know

about showing love to our neighbors. You know, we should be the one

being hospitable, hospital to people around us, and you know, not not

not being with arms distance I get away from me. I oh, you

know, somebody begging for money or you know, oh I don't got nothing,

but they're a Christian and it might be a pastor, and you know,

don't don't touch me. You know, I really need to get it

together as the believers in this in this nation, those that are hearing this

podcast, we just need to, you know, because that's what God demands

and requires. You know. Let me ask you something. Litter. So

you like this guy, yeah, I do. So you met his family?

I met his family up so how many people in his family he has

a well living in that house? There was one, two, three,

four, five, six, seven, eight, about eight people in that

house. What was your youngest one the youngest one was three. Let me

ask you something litter, so you know that without the Lord Jesus Christ,

they're gonna burn in hell? Right right? So let me be forthright with

you. Would you be willing to like the match for that three year old?

What do you mean a lot of match? Would you be willing to

be the one to like the match on that three year old as he goes

into hell because you thought you were too good or it was improper to share

the gospel with his family? Would you be willing to light the match?

No? I wouldn't. No, you wouldn't. What about his wife?

No, I wouldn't. But his wife she had her head down. She

wouldn't even be in the room with us. When I asked that question,

do you point blank it disturbs you, don't it? Because you realize the

only hope he has, the only hope that three year old has, is

for a Christian to henter that life and share the Gospel with them. They

don't have any other hope, right, And that's what I you know,

when I left that home, you know, And that's what I did while

I was in that home without being disrespectful to you know, their family.

The brother was asking about you know, all my kids and being married and

how do I do it? And I just let him know how I do

it by putting God first. And his brother. I've ministered to his brother

plenty of times, me and him. He showed me videos. He's like,

there's questions that he has about Christians and there's this Chris guy that he

follows that's a Muslim that talks about these questions and no Christian can answer him.

I said, well, just ask me that same question is it.

Just show me. I love the Lord, just show me whatever that question

is. And so he shows. He's like, well, let me show

you the video. Showed me the video about a lot sleeping with his daughters.

Abraham sleep I think it was Abraham or Jacob sleeping with it's his daughter

in law and you know, and how can this be the real word of

God? And they say, this is God's word? Look at this what

comes from And so when he was done, I was able to tell him.

I said, yes, all those things happen, Yes, all those

things are in the Word. I said, God uses imperfect people so that

he can be glorified. And what he does, I said, let me

tell you something. People to look at me, right, and if they

were to judge me because of my past or because of mistakes that I've made,

doesn't make me who I am. You know, I said, God

is glorified by the miracle he's done through my life. God uses imperfect people

so that he can get the glory of what goes on. It's by his

mercy, I said, because that's what he understands, is mercy, because

he's always saying mercy. Right, I said, it is by his mercy,

and his mercy alone and his grace why we are where we're at today.

It's because of him alone. I go. God uses those men,

imperfect as they are. He uses them to establish something so that He can

be glorified through so that nobody can boast about how perfect they are. And

you know, it's because of I did A B and C is why I'm

so perfect. No, all the men of the Bible are imperfect people that

make mistakes. But we have a perfect God that comes through and does extraordinary

things with these regular people. I go, that's the story of God,

from beginning to end. I said, that's the story how God uses people,

from beginning to end. And that's why we believe that we know that

Jesus's blood is so important. It's because by the work that he did,

by the shed blood that he shed, not because of anything I did.

Because everything that Christ did he gave himself as a living sacrifice. So it

was by his works. It's not by my works. It's by his and

his alone why we have salvation, why we have redemption. It is because

of what He did on the cross. And that's why us as Christians,

it isn't It is the foundation of our faith, why we believe that Christ

died and rose again. And in your belief you say that he never died,

that he was just taken. But it's important that he did die,

because if he didn't die, he didn't do a sacrifice, there would be

no forgiveness of sin. But him alone, by the work, not by

I said, Not by your work, not by your not by your your

brother's work, or by your niece's work, your mom's work. No.

But nothing that you can do it's going to ever make you right before the

Lord. But what Jesus did, that's the only thing he paid Your sin,

your family sin, my sin. He bear that upon on himself through

his shed blood. And so when I told him all that. He said,

Okay, I understand now, and then he told me, he's all,

you know what I never hear so as I've been talking to them,

he says, I've never heard a Christian talk like you, he told me.

And I've talked to a lot of Christians, but I've never heard nobody

talk like you. And I said, well, I don't know. I

don't know what to say, and I'm sorry that you never have because those

that call themselves Christians you should. You know, obviously, there are many

people that claim to be Christian that are not right. And you know,

I'm telling my dad too that the same thing at work, like everybody knows.

Everybody knows that I'm a Christian, everybody, and there's just people that

come up to me and they'll start talking to me and start telling me things

about the struggles they are going through with their kids and about how they want

to follow the Lord and start asking me questions about that, and just God

gives me that ability to be able to minister to them. But you know,

I feel honored for them to come to me and ask me because they

feel trust They feel like they can trust me by telling me their personal things.

Because they see. And my Dad's like, it's because you're a light

in a dark world and they see that light, and that's what it is.

That's what we need to be. We need to be a light in

a dark world. We need to be a candlestick. We need that's what

makes us different. That's why people see us different, because they see the

light. And as I walked out of that at a at a Hahmed's home,

I said, Lord, because he's going to be going with another Christian

brother on Tuesday. And I said, Lord, please, you know,

don't I just hope that this man, you know, from what I see,

he loves the Lord, but I hope he has the same he shows

the man the same amount of love that I showed him, to the point

where the man felt he wanted me to come to his home, meet his

family and everything. But I prayed for him and I prayed for his family

and I talked to his When I talked seeing his brother with his daughter,

I said, oh, your family is so beautiful, man, thank you

for allowing me inside your home. I seen your little daughter. She's like

my daughter. Man, I said, you have a beautiful family, and

it just gives me that opportunity to be able to God leaves that door open

for me to be able to continue to minister as I'm going to see the

more often. And I've given that. I've given them both the gospel all

the time as I'm with them. And that's what I told the other trainer,

I said, this will give you a chance to continue to minister the

gospel to them. Kind of got quiet, you mean when I told them

that. But but yeah, we need to be walking handlesticks. People should

be able to see the light. They should be able to see that light

of Christ within you, you know, not just emotion by going to church

and just praying like we see some of these charismatic people do and they leave

and are exactly the same. There's no difference. Not just talk about it.

You should, if anything, you should have They should be able to

know that you're a Christian and by you with few words, man, just

by the way you live your life. And like I said, sometimes when

I train people, I don't tell them I'm Christian right away. But I

noticed when they start cussing, They're like, Amen, I'm sorry, I'm

sorry, Amen, I'm sorry. And I haven't even told them anything because

that door wasn't even open yet for me to explain to them about Christ.

But yet they can tell because that's we're walking testimonies of Jesus Christ. And

that's what I tell my kids. When you're at work, you are given

a testimony of what it means to be a Christian. Please do not make

Christ look bad. Please do not have somebody say something about bad about Jesus

Christ. You know I remember that. I'll tell you guys a story probably

heard it before, of when I first started working at this one place called

practice there when I jumped in the truck. It was a Mexican guy jumped

in and he looked at me up and down. He said, check this

out. I don't want to hear none of your gangster stories. I don't

want to hear none of your gangster music. I don't want to hear none

none of your gangster or anything. And here, all we play is Christian

music, and all we talk about is Christian things. I don't want to

hear nothing, he teld me, just like angry, right, And in

my mind, I'm like cool, all right, I'm a Christian. You

know. I didn't say nothing out loud, because you know, I didn't.

I was just intimidated at that moment. I didn't say anything. So

the whole time, you know, he's playing Christian rap and looking at me

to see if I like it. It just was weird, you know.

I felt embarrassed for him doing that, like he was trying to do something

that he's not normally he does for himself, trying to trying hard for me,

which he wasn't coming naturally from within him. And then I just observed

him, listened to everything and heard his conversations with his wife, angry with

her, angry with us, the brother in law that was staying there,

ready to kick him out on the street, no mercy, no nothing,

nothing. And then one day it was we went to a place and he

was telling me to turn the valves and I turned the wrong valve and he

slapped my hand all hard and what are you doing, started yelling and screaming

at me. And we used to wear face shields because the liquid is like

three hundred below zero, so they didn't want to splash it on your face

because it's cold, and he was banging his finger on my mask. You're

the slowest person I've ever worked with, slowest person, and I felt myself

in the flesh began to get upset, so I backed up. I threw

my gloves down, and I said, by the way you're banging on my

mask, I'm gonna have to defend myself. But I said it in a

way where his whole countenance dropped. And when I seen that, I turned

away and I walked away, and I called my wife and I said,

I need you to pray for me right now, please, you know,

And I was telling her what was going on. We started praying. Calm

down and went back and just listened to everything he said. And then he

apologized to me. And then I told him. I said, look,

man, I said, can you give me You gave me a favor?

And he was like, what's that? I said, h I said,

look, I'm a Christian man, but you didn't give me a chance to

let you tell you I was a Christian because by the way you have been

treating me. But can you not tell people you're a Christian please when you're

training, because if my only uh, if you were my if you were

the only person that I would ever see as knowing what it is to be

a Christian, because I'm with you twelve hours a day. So if you're

my only example of what it means to be a Christian, if I didn't

know God, I wouldn't want nothing to do with him. I said,

so, please, man, please, please don't tell anybody you're a Christian.

If you're going to treat people like this, please And when I said

that to him, it was like sticking a knife right. I stuck a

knife right in his chest and he was like, oh, oh, but

I'm just a human. And I said, no, that doesn't give us

an excuse to treat people like that. Man, I said, please,

man, for the future, because you're giving Jesus Christ a bad testimony,

Please do not tell anybody you're a Christian. So me saying that right now

I'm bringing up that story is that the way we live our lives before non

believers and believers alike, we give a testimony of Jesus Christ. Whether it's

people and your family, people that are coming to stay over, or if

it's people that you work with and they know you're a Christian, you give

a testimony of Jesus Christ. And if you don't live your life in the

way Christ is to live, then you blaspheme the name of Christ. That's

what you do, because it's blaspheming towards them. They blasphem God because of

you, because of your way of If you just say to yourself, well,

I'm just a human and I just have these issues, and I just

said, no, No, we're supposed to live above that. Because we

have the spirit of God living within us. We're no longer just left alone

like we were when we were in sin. Now we have the spirit of

God dwelling in us that gives us self control. There's no excuse, there's

no excuse that Jesus Christ should be blasphem because of us. But many Christians,

that's what they do. They blast the name of Christ because of their

actions, because of the way they live, because they say, there are

Christians, but their lives shows comes something completely different. Hypocrites. And that's

why you know this Second Peter is and Jude is so vital for today,

because that's what's happening for today. Sorry for that long winded comment, but

no it was needed because I mean, that's Second Peter, chapter two,

That's that's how it opens that this is exactly what's going on today. There

are literally droves of people running around driving the name of Christ into the dirt.

They are liars, they're a culturers there in every way shape that they

know how to do. They profane the name of Christ. And not only

this, they give hardy approval to others who do the same. They applaud

one another and their devices. And this is why the state of the Church

is in the state that it is in. I mean, most people could

not be convicted of their Christianity in a court of law, Leonard. They

couldn't be convicted. There's no way a court could prove they were actually a

Christian, especially in the workplace. And that's the truth, you know,

and the reason why this has come to be, because the Bible is very

clear, and especially the prophets. The problem is the clergy, that's the

problem. I mean, we could go to is Eegypt, chapter twenty.

You know, I can't start naming the passages because I can just overwhelm people.

But God is very pointed in his declarations that the problem of his church

is the clergy. I mean, they they have the sheet believing that there's

free grace. They have the church believing in Antinomianism. They don't have to

follow the Ten Commandments. They can literally wore their ways into heaven. The

clergy has them convinced that as long as they're baptized, when they're a baby,

they're automatically going to heaven. They can rape, pillage, murder,

and go to heaven. They think this because of the clergy. That's this

is why they think it. It's because of the of the clergy. Now,

what amazes me is people don't. I mean, I don't know how

you could not know these things. I really don't when especially Ezekiel, especially

Ezekiel comes right out and tells you, I mean, this is what Ezekiel

Chapter thirty four is a bat Leonard. Ladies and gentlemen, the shepherds are

the clergy. Now, fortunately Leonard has extensive experience with all manner of different

denominations and clergy because he ran a podcast. That's what he would do.

He would get Orthodox people on and this on and that on, and charismatic

people and he literally got all these people and just interview Leonard. Where can

you find those interviews at? You can look at the Getting Understanding podcasts on

Spreaker, or you can look at it at on Spotify. I strongly suggest

you do that, Ladies and gentlemen, because you need to get familiar with

your clergy, because God himself, not me, God himself says that all

the problems going on are because of the clergy. And if you didn't realize

that, that's what Second Peter chapter two is about. Boy, are you

in for quite a shock because we're in a I mean, you've got people

like this trainer that Leonard ran into. He was basically acting as if he

was Antichrist. That was Antichrist. What he was doing was Antichrist. And

I'm going to tell you the truth, ladies and gentlemen. Such people like

that is why the majority of liberals hate Christians. They hate them. And

Leonard found out why. And the only reason why that trainer thought that he

could act like that and behave like that and shame the name of Christ is

because his preacher taught him to do it. And that's a fact. He

didn't come up with that on his own. Could he have fit, Could

he have come to that conclusion by reading the New Testament? Leonard? Absolutely

not. So what we're getting ready to read today this is why that gentleman

was acting that way. I'll just read the first two first three verses Psychopeter,

chapter two. But false prophets also arose among the people, just as

there will be also false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies,

even denying the master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves.

Many will follow their own sensuality, and because of them, the way of

the truth will be malay. And in their greed, they will exploit you

with false words. Their judgment from long ago is not idle, their destruction

is not asleep. This is very clear. It's talking about the clergy.

It's talking about the people over the Christians. And this is where this poor

gentleman got this idea that he could act like a scumbag, he could act

like a hair he could literally display the spirit of anti Christ to Leonard and

it was okay, he was going to heaven. That is psychotic thinking.

It's almost like something had bewitched this Christian to get him to think that way.

Because after extensive experience with such people, whenever they're acting like this,

I always have a trump card. I like to throw down with them.

I always ask them, you know, I got I gotta ask you a

question, so I get their attention and they quiet down and look at me.

I said, would you act that way in front of your mother?

And ninety nine percent of the time they said, well no. But well

you need to think about that before you continue your actions, because Jesus Christ

will send you to hell for acting like that. And guess what your mother

would tell you that. She'd tell you that to your face. Hey,

you better reevaluate the situation. You better sit down and calm down. You

better, you know, get something to drink and cool off. Most people

will read it. And if it's not their mother, it'll be their grandmother.

You ask, and would what would your grandmother say if she was watching?

Oh, I'd never do that in front of my grandmother. Really,

So you think your grandmother out ranks the Lord Jesus Christ, because your grandmother

is not gonna have anything to do with the Beama seat. But by God,

the Son of God will. And if you think that the Son of

God is going to allow you into heaven so you can treat other people like

your grandma like that, you're daft. You're you have mental problems. You

have mental problems. If you think the Lord Jesus Christ is going to let

you enter the Kingdom of heaven. So you can treat other people's grandmothers like

that, You're retarded, you have mental problems. It this is the this

is the state the church finds itself in because Leonard, you know full well

the percentage of Christian and that was acting just like this person was acting as

he treated you that way. That's the majority of Christians. Yeah it is,

Oh, yes, it is. Let's talk about this. I've had

the rare experience of going to Making Georgia, and in Making Georgia, I

walked into a church and guess what, me and the people that were with

me, we were the only white people in that church. The entire church

was black. And I'm going to tell you the truth. They treated me

better than my own church treated me. I literally got taken home for lunch

by one of them, and in their home they had a dirt floor.

As surely as the Lord lives, me and my friends were. They had

to wherewithal to keep their mouths shut, but you could literally look through the

boards and see outside and it was a dirt floor. Now, look,

I'm gonna tell you the truth. Many of the people listening to my voice,

they would have never associated with those people and they would have never went

into their house. They would have shamed them and scorned them. And I'm

telling you the truth. If you think the Lord Jesus Christ will how you

to treat his children that way in the Kingdom of Heaven, you've got mental

problems. You think you're some kind of master race that you're not. I

mean, the only conclusion you can come to is that someone has bewitched you

because you're not getting such things from the Bible, God's Holy Word, are

you, Leonard, No, you're not. You're getting that from some one,

and that some one has deceived you at the point of death. To

the point of death. You've been deceived to death because you're gonna wind up

in Christ's face at judgment Day. And if you think He's gonna let you

into the Kingdom of Heaven, you deserve to get what you're gonna get.

Because someone has bewitched you. You're not getting that from God's word, and

Leonard is quite correct, you sure fire isn't getting it from the Holy Spirit.

So the next time that someone catches you acting like a fool, please

try to put yourself in a situation as if you're in front of your grandmother

or your grandpa or something. You need to get a leash on yourself because

your bad clergy Ezekiel costs them bad shepherds. Those bad shepherds have bewitched you

into violating the children of the Living God. Let me say that again.

These bad clergy have bewitched you into believing that you can mistreat the children of

the Living God. If you believe that you're crazy, you're nuts. So

these opening three verses Second Theater, chapter two, it may very well be

directed to whoever clergy you currently have. I mean, it's gotten to the

point now that it's so bad that a lot of Christians don't even have clergy.

They just quit the church. Now you can look this up in the

mainstream media. Look up this term the duns. What is the dunes.

Research they've done is people who's done with church. They're Christians, but they

don't go to church anymore, so they call them the duns. Look it

up by all means. Because the clergy are acting exactly out. It's as

if Second Peter chapter two is a play and they've all memorized the verses further

lines, and they're acting it out on the stage of the church. You're

going to Leonard your comments, Well, you're exactly right, and that's why,

you know, about six years ago I went to all these churches to

talk to the leaders, to tell them, you know, what are you

teaching? You know, what are you teaching your people? You know,

I think a lot of times we've gotten I think this is I've been seeing

this since I was a young child, where it progressively I remember going to

my mom used to go to a Pentecostal church and they were all all about

holy living. And then it progressively as I got older, started moving away

to that, away from that and begin to be like I guess like when

they started wanting to have like coffee shops within the church, it was more

of a seeker friendly type of deal. And that's what I think. That's

probably when I can notice the change, you know, singles nights, you

know, which I don't know, I don't know, but I've seen that

progressively, that it's changed where they don't want to offend people. They want

they feel like as long as we get them in the door that they'll be

okay. But if you're not preaching God's word, how they're going to be

okay? If you're just you're preaching, but you're using a couple verses and

then you're just going off of just with stories and all that. I mean,

it's Jesus is a word. That's what's going to change their lives.

Jesus is going to change their lives. And there's no conviction or or there's

no push for holy living, you know, for to live godly, you

know, to be morally blameless, then what's the point You just go to

church just to feel good. And if everybody else is living exactly like you,

and you have deceived yourself into thinking that this is what Christian living is.

In reality, it's not Christian living. It's hypocrisy living well. I

mean, once again that tewod Peter chapter two. Yet yes it is.

It's verse twenty. For if after they have escaped the defilements of the Word

by the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled

in them and are overcome, the last state has become worse than the first.

So how is this possible in the atmosphere of the Holy Spirit, How

is that possible that all of a sudden, the God's Holy Church his Holy

Bride, instead of well, instead of redeeming the lost. He has invited

them in and conformed to their ungodliness, and her state is worse than it

was in the beginning, before she was cleaned and made herself ready for Christ.

I mean, Leonard, I'm gonna say this again, who has bewitched

these people? I mean, they're not getting that from the New Testament.

Leonard, Let's just remove the Old Testament. We don't even need to go

there. How could these churches read the New Testament and come up with this

this modus apperendi that they've got going on. Well, they've made God into

their own image goodness, instead of being in the image of God, instead

of being in the image of Christ, They've formed what they call Christ into

their own image, which is blasphemy. And that's what's happening there. There

is no spirit, there is no Holy Spirit there. It's not there.

Christ's blaspheming because of the way the church is. Come on, Matthew,

you have clergy, homosexual clergy marrying homosexuals. I mean, that's you are

blaspheming Christ's name, his church. It's blasphem because of this. You're having

drag queens coming to the church. You're reading to drag like dragon queen.

Come on. And this is why I say that it's the end of this

a dream. It's over, man, and people are going to have a

rude awakening. It's going to happen. And whether you like it or not,

whether it does not matter, it is happening. It is going there.

And we all, all of us, need to get our homes in

order. We need to get ourselves. You need to get your relationship and

order with God. And you need to be the light of the world and

not blaspheme the name of Christ. And be bold because having the spirit of

God gives you boldness. Be bold. Pray that God give you the mouth

to speak. We need that, you know. I look at the church

and it's, oh my gosh, man, you know they're building more churches,

and it's like, that's not what we need. We don't need another

church. We just need the churches to get their act together. Like where

I live, they're building a big church and other people want another church,

and there's just it's like, well, let's have a fifty million churches,

and what about the churches? I already hear, man, what about uh?

Getting that in order? It's sometimes it's just frustrating. A gendis usually

are, yeah, it's frustrating. Matthew is so frustrating, man. And

then when you talk to them, it's like a deer in the headlights.

Oh yeah, because because they have this vision of what they want done,

and then when you say something, it's like it's like I'm throwing a monkey

wrench into their vision. That's how I feel. I feel like, you

know, a bad news Betty or something. You mean, Debbie Downer,

Here comes Debbie Downer. They look at me like the rain cloud raining on

their parade, raining on their vision. It's so frustrating. It is frustrating

because you ask them what their vision is, and their vision is to have

a stadium full of people. Oh my gosh. They want to have a

stadium, and they want to have stadium style entertainment. I mean they want

literally literally bands they want and they are willing to pay professional musicians to come

do the entertainment for them. Do you know how I know this, Leonard,

because unfortunately, on more than one occasion, I was part of the

process. I'm like, wait a minute, these people are not even Christians,

and you want to pay these musicians to do our Oh that's nothing.

I've been so far that I was like one of the last people to find

out. They didn't want me to know. With this church. Well,

they call me up the Sunday or the Saturday in question that we're going to

move in the new music minister. So sure, Well the Sunday school teacher

had enough brains in his head to say no, no, no, Matthew,

I need to tell you what's going on. First. We're also going

to move in his roommate. Of course, you know, I'm okay,

well, roommate now, now, wait a minute, he can't have a

roommate because we're moving him into the parsonage. He can't have a roommate.

That's not a lot. No, Matthew, you don't understand. It's it's

his partner. What do you mean, the ministry partner. It took him

a few minutes before he finally know, Matthew, they're homosexual. We're moving

in a homosexual couple into the church parsonage. And I said, I'll burn

in hell first, because if I do, I'm going to burn in hell.

After what I'm telling you, Leonard, I can tell you to the

people and have you interview them. If you would like, and I was

so confused. Of course we never went back to church. I mean,

I fear God. But literally, what they want is just a stadium full

of people and professional entertainment that they're paying for. This we've gone way beyond

the mark. You know, back in the old days, when you'd have

a choir, right Leonard, and there'd be all the people that could sing

good in the church, they would be in the choir, right. No,

no, no, no, no, no no. That's not how

it's done nowadays. Do you know how these big churches, you know how

they have junior church for all the kids, don't you Those aren't other Christians

in the church. Those are paid for employees. Guess how I know this.

Try to take your baby to a nursery and you look at the guy.

Hey, man, I know you you're a felon. You tried to

work at my job, and you know you worked there for three or four

days before the fingerprints come back. Find out you were a felon because you

know you're a rapist. And you're like, wait a minute, you're working

in you can't be working in the nursery. I'm telling you the truth,

ladies and gentlemen, these churches operating like this. It's not because the other

church members are Christians and they're doing everything. All those other people are employees

and they're not Christians. Who has bewitched you, Leonard. They're not interesting

in saving the lost. They're not training up the children and the way they

should go. They're not They've got none of that. This is agenda based.

They want their tithe to go for top level entertainment. They want their

tithe to go to pay professional musicians to play for them Jesus Loves Me so

they can sing Jesus Loves Me to these God hating professional musicians. I'm not

lying to you, Leonard. I'm telling you the truth. If you take

their tithe money and you send it on gospel tracks, they'll kick you out

of the church. Let me say that again. If you use their tithe

money to feed the poor, they will revoke your membership and kick you out

of the church. No, no, no, you have to spend their

tithe money on ways to entertain them. I'm telling you the truth. It

is a far cry from Eden, Leonard. We're so far from Eden.

I don't even know how to I mean, Leonard, I don't even know

how to describe it to you? All the things I know understand. That's

why there's times that I you know, I find joy in the Lord,

but there's times that I do find myself being frustrated and depressed because of the

the way the churches and trying to find people in there to talk to them

about Christ and to you know, to get into the Word with them,

and they're just not interested. Man, No, No, they're not interested

at all, not at all. I mean I just had a associative mine

contact me and that was his prayer request. He wants me to pray that

God sends him somebody he can fellowship with. I'm like, well, you

know, you go to church that has one hundred and fifty people their Sunday

morning. He goes, yeah, but none of them. I can't fellowship

with them. They don't want to talk about the Bible. They don't want

to talk about Jesus, they don't want to talk They just want to talk

about guy stuff. What do you mean by that, Well, the football

game, fishing, hunting, and he he is desiring Christian fellowship because he

don't have any. The bad shepherds have destroyed christ Church, these homosexual child

molesting clergy. They've destroyed christ Church. I mean, I wish I couldn't

say this, but there's a name that I could say. He's literally in

Christian movies. Me and my daughter walked into youth group and they were having

a seance. And I wish what I was saying was not true. But

we walked into the youth hault. All the lights were shut off. They

had three tables pushed together. There was one candle in the middle of each

table. They were all holding hands in the dark. They were having a

seance in the church before youth group. Like I said, I wish it

wasn't true, but my daughter is the witness. So I understand you being

discouraged. Leonard. It's like, what do you do? Where do you

go? I mean, because it would have been nice. It would have

really been It would have been a really perfect hookup for you. You get

this new job and your trainers are Christian. I mean, you should have

been hooked right up. No, this guy was Antichrist. You will know

them by their fruit, right, Leonard, Most definitely he's not a Christian.

I don't have a problem saying it. I mean, literally, who

was the he was the antipode to the beatitude, right, correct? I

mean, where do you go with that? I mean, and even if

you try to bring correction, it's like they feel like it's judgment. But

I mean, I'm just you could say it is judgment. I'm just judging

what I see. I don't that's the I'm just judging the fruit. I'm

just judging the fruit. You mean, And even when you do it in

a kind way with people, I don't know, even with you know,

when some of these pastors I talked to, and I just they're talking about

all kinds of stuff except what's right in front of their face, the obvious,

you know, just about future buildings and future revivals and just I don't

know, man projected revenue. It's yeah. They're telling me about the geographic

area and what type of people it is. And dude, oh man telling

you what kind of people is in their area, the demographics. And they've

never knocked on anybody's door. Right. It's a far cry from Eden.

But I got some good news, Leonard, the Lord Jesus Christ, he

is coming back and we are going to Eden for a thousand years. Amen,

Leonard, take us out of here in prayer, please, Oh,

dear Ane Father, in the name of Jesus, we just thank you for

another day of life. Another day, Lord God, to be the light

of the world today. Help us, Lord God, for help us to

keep oil and out of our lamps, and to keep our lamps lit,

and to stay ready. Lord God. Help us, Lord God to bring

love to those around us. Lord God, to snatch people from the fire,

Lord God, and to give them the gospel truth. Lord. Help

us to have boldness, but to do it in love. Lord God,

help us not to blaspheme you and your name. Lord. Let our life,

Lord God, shed a light on your love and compassion and who you

are. Lord. As we go throughout this day, Lord God, give

us the patience that we need. Help us to be slow to speak,

and help us to be quick to listen, slow to speak, and slow

to anger. Lord, give us the ability, Lord God to show the

love. Give us another day, if it be in your will for us

to do it right. Lord God. Forgive us, Lord God for missing

the mark. Help us, Lord God, straighten us. Lord to do

what's wrong all right, because we know that You're coming soon. Help us

to be found ready and to be without spot Lord or we love you,

and we thank you Jesus name. Amen, Amen and Amen. Until next

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