Shoshannim Series Pt 1

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Draweth nine. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the program. We

are your host Jose and Matthew. Good to be with you tonight. And

boy, we're starting a pretty important series here, a series that's probably so

important most most of you didn't even realize it existed, So that's how important

it is. So it's it would be whove us to get the Lord's direction

before we ever get started. So Jose, can you lead us out in

prayer? Yes, I can. Dear Lord, whom we love and whom

we serve. Lord, I wanted to start off by thanking you for all

the blessings you've given us. Father. I thank you for considering our prayers

that the Ecclesia has given, and I thank you for your response to those

prayers. Lord, I asked that you be with those that have lost loved

ones this week, those that are suffering, but please let them know that

you are there with them and that you will see them through and help them

to endure. So, Father, we ask that you give us the strength

to get through this coming shoshannime series, that you give us the understanding to

be able to share with the ecclesia what they need to know. Father.

And again, Lord, we do all this in the name of your son

Jesus Christ. Amen, Amen and Amen. Well jose opening comments on this?

Uh well, this the series overall? I think, what's what's your

what's your thoughts? Now that you've probably read through all four chapters? Right?

Uh no, Matthew, I have read through all four chapters, but

I have not studied all four chapters. Study studying the first chapter. Studying

the first chapter was that was uh uh blew my head off enough, you

know, so I've got to tick off little little chunks at a time.

So what was your impression of it overall? Once you read all four chapters?

Boy, Matthew, it's just so when I read through them without breaking

down the words, without getting deep into them, it's just it's I just

kept reminded, being reminded that this is what what God said over and over,

this is you know there. Well, we'll we'll discuss in this chapter

today. But so many references that that kept coming up now when I would

try to break down the words, there is so much depth and so much

detail in those words. It's again, it was, it was, it

was blowing my mind away. Matthew. It was really a lot to take

in. Normally I can sit down and in the night go through a chapter

and pretty pretty have a pretty good understanding, the pretty good feeling about it,

a better understanding. And and this time around, that good feeling,

that better understanding came from reading the plain text and trying to dig into the

to the original languages. Was just like, it was a lot for me

to take in. I'd have to meet Matthew and I got is saying a

whole lot, a whole lot in these chapters, and it's just it's amazing.

But always I mean that, I say that over and over. But

it's just amazing how he chooses to phrase things while still at the same time

say repeating the same thing over and over. What's going to happen to us,

what's going to happen to the bride, what's going to happen to the

woman? But yeah, these are good chapters, Matthew. It was amazing.

I would I would concur That's one way I would put it would be

amazing. It's amazing what he's stating here. And I'm gonna have to say

some things right out the bat that in prior broadcast, I've already talked about

this with both Jose and Joe. This is a thing we all need to

realize that this is a this is not a translation event. Let me let

me let me clarify that most people call these ascensions, but really the technical

term here is a translation. That is to say, what happened to Elijah

when he went to Heaven? Look it up in the text. Most commentaries

say he was translated. What's a translation? A translation is when you are

moved from one dimension to the next. So you are traveling and you enter

into a different dimension. This is called a translation. This is not what's

going on, but you'll take note that there are some people that have endured

that thing that would be as I already said, Elijah Enich was also taken,

though it leaves out the details that just said God took him. And

then you have the sons of Karol that they were not translated to Heaven,

they were translated to Hades. So no one understand this. This is not

what the changing is. The changing is not a translation because you aren't going

anywhere. And in that you need to see what these texts are talking about,

because you are going to go through two very difficult times. One difficult

time is called the birthpangs. You are going to endure them. The other

thing is going to be Karl's rebellion. There is going to be a rebellion

in the place that has been prepared for us by God. So moving forward,

expect to hear that. Because if you're expecting to hear about a pre

tribulational translation to heaven, you're not going to get it. That's not going

to happen, at least not in these four chapters. It doesn't happen.

But the message rings true. It rings true with First Corinthians chapter fifteen.

It rings true with First Thessalonians chapter four. It rings true. Let me

say that again. It rings true. It rings true with Matthew twenty four.

It rings true with systematic eschatology. It brings true. And when we

look at this great, big one hundred dollars word here that begins this text

in the Greek, it gets your attention because I have stated this many times,

written it, taught it in the classroom, preached about it in the

pulpit. You have to understand that what happens at Christ return is you are

not translated anywhere. Christ is not going anywhere. This is his destination.

So that's why this one hundred dollars word here. When you look at this

in Greek, I mean it looks like it's a sentence all into itself.

This word means in Greek, those who will be changed. This message is

for the woman that is alive and that remains until the Perugia of Christ.

That's what this message is for. In the Hebrew, the word used here

is shoshane. Now take note there are several different psalms that use this word

shoshane. It's also in other places in the Bible. That's a whole lot

to tackle all in its own, But for this we're doing the Greek and

Jose is quite quite correct. The best way to do this is in reverse

fashion. Read it in English. Get familiar with what it's trying to say.

Because once you know, once you know that this is concerning when Christ

returns and we are changed, once you know that the message is pretty clear

and that needs to be digested before you dive into the Greek, because the

Greek will just rattle your cage. I mean, I made a special document

here just so Jose and I could could get to grips with what the Greek

was actually saying, because there's many words in here that's not in the strongs

and there's nothing you can do about breaking it down. Literally, there was

multiple times in this text I had to refer Jose to extra biblical sources and

those Greek sources so he would have to translate that into English. So whatever's

being said here is extremely important. The message itself is extremely important. And

even in this document I include two or three different translations, two or three

of them. Now, what I'm probably gonna read from is the Nets.

This is the one that I got for Christmas. This is one that includes

of both the Septuagint Daniel and the Theodosian Daniel. It is from this point

forward, this is the mainstay of this ministry. Is the NEETs. The

new English translation of the Subtuogen. I strongly suggest you get one. So

this is very difficult if you're reading it in the Hebrew Bible. The verses

are different, even the chapter number is different. That's completely different numbering from

Hebrew to Greek. So please take note. You will know you got the

right one when you open it up your Bible, and it's going to say

this for the choir director. According to the Shoshane, a maskil of the

Sons of Korrah, a song of love. That's how you know you've got

the right chapter. But in the Secuagint, in their numbering system, this

is forty four. So with that in mind, I want you all to

be a tentative to that this is not a translation to Heaven. There are

examples, and I just gave you one too many. All of you already

know about Elijah and Enoch. You all know about that, but you were

not expecting me to say the one that had the greatest effect. That was

these Sons of Korraw. They were translated into Hades. And this double backs

into this very thing, because here you have in the opening this is pertaining

to the sons of Korrah as well. So you're going to get inside information

as to what's going on. And you have to realize that, ladies and

gentlemen, probably the first ones in creation that actually knew he was the king

was these sons of Karrah. Remember they were taken alive down into Shiole and

they kept crying out. They kept crying out. Technically, they had done

no wrong, they had not broken the Ten Commandments. They were priests,

they were serving God, yes they were. Then their pride got the best

of them and they were taken to to Hades and their case was never heard

until Christ entered the grave. So with that in mind, some of this

information could only come from the sons of Korrah. But that's not what the

Greek says. Here. The Hebrew says one thing, this says another.

Let me open up again with the New American Standard Bible. It says a

maskul of the sons of Kirab. That's not what the Greek says. The

Greek says, this is true the sons of Korrab. So take note,

the first ones that got the inside scoop, take note. We're gonna do

this really quick and really clean. Jose. When did the disciples think that

Jesus was gonna set up his kingdom bright when he resurrected Matthew. They thought

they were getting started right then and there. And you would agree, Jose,

that really those three days they were in the grave. They were broken.

They were not expecting him to come back, were they, Jose,

No, No, ladies and gentlemen, you need to read the God.

They they didn't even they didn't even show up up the grave, Matthew.

They weren't the ones that discovered here that bed been resurrected. Did everybody hear

what Jose said, Because that's true, No one understand this in your heart.

The first ones that knew what was going to happen was not the Disciples.

It was the sons of Karrah. That's enough to That's enough to take

you by surprise, isn't it, Jose? Oh yeah, that used you

off. It's it's once you understand the magnitude of what this message is and

who it can only be coming from. Let me set it one more time.

The sons of Korab that was translated into haities, they knew before the

Disciples did that Jesus was in fact Christ the King. Yeah, they were

the first ones that figured it out. So with that in mind, do

you want to read it, Jose, or you want me to read it?

Why didn't you read it? Matthew? Okay, boy? Should I

even choose? Let me let me give my faculties here, ladies and gentlemen,

let me see. That's why I saw it to you, Matthew,

because I wouldn't even know which translation to read to get and accurate idea what's

going on here? You know what I mean. So each translation just changes

the wordy just a little bit, and so it's like which one which is

gonna which is gonna hit it? Right? Yeah, let's just go ahead

with then ets for those of you who need it. Aaron did a Bible

portion on this. If you go over to the speaker page from Maheronatha Ministries,

look at Bible portions and Aaron read this from the n ets. I

put it up there. It's all four chapters in one. So that's what

we're going to read. And you know, I'm really hesitant to even know

where to stop and take note, ladies and gentlemen. I've been studying.

I've been studying this for thirty years, and still I'm apprehensive about doing it.

And to be perfectly honest with you, it wasn't my idea to do

it. So without a moment, letst just do this. The septuagen Psalm

forty four in your English Bibles its Psalm forty five regarding completion over those that

will be changed, pertaining to the sons of Korrah, regarding understanding an ode

over the beloved, My heart erupted with a goodye theme. It is I

that address my works to the King. My tongue is a pen of a

swift scribe. Youthful in beauty, you are beyond the sons of men.

Grace was poured on your lips. Therefore God blessed you forever. Your sword

on your thigh, Oh powerful One, in your bloom and beauty, and

draw and prosper and become king for the sake of truth and meekness and righteousness.

And your right hand will guide you marvelously. Your arrows are sharp,

Oh powerful One, people shall fall under you in the heart of the King's

enemies. Your throne, oh God, is forever and ever. A rod

of equity, is the rod of your rules. You loved righteousness and hated

lawlessness. Therefore God, your God, anointed you with oil of rejoicing beyond

your partners, miror and moror oil in case you waste from your clothes from

ivory bastions with which they made you. Glad daughters, of kings are in

your honor. The queen stood at your right in gold woven clothing, decked

out in many colors. Hear, O, daughter, and see and incline

your ear and forget your people in the house of your father, because the

king desired your beauty, because he is your lord, and daughters of tair

will do obstinist to with him with gifts your face. The rich of the

people will entreat of a king's daughter. All her glory is within, decked

out with golden tassels in many colors. Virgins behind her will be brought to

the king. Her companions will be brought to you. They will be brought

with gladness and rejoicing. They will be led into a king shrine in the

place of your father's your sons were born. You will appoint them rulers in

all the earth. I will remember your name in every generation in generation.

Therefore the peoples will acknowledge you forever, even forever and ever. Ose.

Yeah, that's a good translation, Matthew. That's matching up with a lot

of the a lot of the words that I was finding. The other translations

were just missing it a little bit. But that I like that that one,

boy, Matthew. When I when I read this, I just keep

being reminded of the Book of Esther, especially chapter two when she's brought before

the King. I just keep seeing the same themes here. The way Esther

was prepared, the way you know, her clothing was changed, she had

versions with her, all these all these same same wording. I'm finding them

there. What what is interesting, though, Matthew, is in this case,

the beloved in verse eight is the one that gets the murder, and

the cassia and and all those all those things that make you smell good,

right, And I remember that the Book of Esther, it was Esther that

was being prepared in that way. Yeah, so uh that caught my eye.

So just for starters, Matthew, That's that's what I got. That's

what was I kept being reminded when I read this chapter was the Book of

Esther. I absolutely agree, which is a little bit confusing in today's askatology.

It's really confusing because once again, utilizing today's eschatology, you're expecting her

to be taken somewhere She's obviously not. Nor was Esther correct correct Now,

I'm glad that you brought up verse eight here, because when you look at

it in the Greek, it will make you scratch your head, and not

just once. It'll make you scratch your head. And let me say this,

going to verse eight, some of the words here it doesn't really make

any sense. Take for example, the second in this in this list,

it it's well, let me try one of the other translations. Let's go

to the Thompson. What I think The Thompson says, yes, stacktee and

caseia. I'm sorry, ladies and gentlemen, they're reaching. But something ain't

just quite right. Because the only thing this can you can remind you of

when you look at this Greek word jose is remember how the Lord states that

a sacrificing is a is a pleasing aroma to him. Yes, because ladies

and gentlemen, this this is not caseya. Let's switch it over to the

Hebrew. The second in this list, in the Hebrew for the New American

Standard Bible, it says aloes and casia. No, it's not, ladies

and gentlemen, this is ash. I want to say that one more time.

Yes, it is in Greek, this is ash. Yes it is.

Now, like I stated, the only thing that the only thing that

triggers the mind here is is you know, this is one of the things

that nobody talks about, right Jose. Usually when you talk about eschatology,

nobody brings this up. That repeatedly In the Old Testament he states that the

sacrifice is a pleasing aroma to him. Correct. Correct, he states that

multiple times. So when you really look at this verse and consider not only

what he's talking about, but what he means in this verse is going beyond

How can I say this? You just wouldn't do this in Greek? It's

it's ladies and gentlemen. Let me ask Kose, Jose, what happens when

you take ash and rub it into a garment muddy that it dirty? Is?

It makes it black and it literally impregnates the fabric. Correct. Yes,

you get that smell as well, Matthew, because smoky smell, because

it is it's how do I put this? How do I say this?

It's extremely fine Jose. Yes, it's not like dust. It's not like

a powder. No. No, Now, ash is massively finer than then

anything that is particulate. Do you understand what I'm saying? And really don't

understand this? Ladies and gentlemen, until you've played with ash before. But

even the closest thing you could get to it is like powdered sugar, right,

Jose, it right, But but powdered sugar, ladies and gentlemen,

is twice coarser than ash. Ash really don't make sense, does it,

Jose. You pick it up and you feel it, and you it it's

it's something different, Ladies and gentlemen. It's extremely fine. And if the

ashes ashes like everywhere and nowhere at the same time, Matthew, when you

move it around, you know what I mean exactly like you can't you can't

reach out and grab it, but it's everywhere. And yet, ladies and

gentlemen, ash is very special. You know. It's amazing to me the

times that I have spoken in the classroom in the pulpit about how you can't

have life without fire, Ladies and gentlemen, this is a true statement.

No one understand this. You can't go to Neptune and start a fire.

No, you can't. You can't go to the moon and start a fire.

Do you want to know why? There's no oxygen? You must have

oxygen to start a fire. Ladies and gentlemen, you cannot have life if

you do not also have the ability to light a fire. And it's amazing

how people once you tell that to them, once you explain it to them,

it really blows their mind because then you understand why the Holy Spirit is

represented as a flame. Right, Jose, Right, So no one understand

this. Just in this one verse God relayed this, and and also Matthew

in that verse, that word in the Greek is the root word of Smyrna

that we see in the Book of Revelation that we see it. It is

that. Yes, it is the yes and the Greek's and the Greek it

says Smyrna. Right, Yes, that's what it says in Greek. I

oh, that's hard to explain. Ladies, gentlemen, that's what it says.

It states that that church. That's that's literally what it stays. So

this is a this is a very complicated way for God to relay something to

you, that this is what's going to happen when you, ladies and gentlemen,

you're becoming. You're going to become clothing with the King. The perfect

way to relay that is to use the symbology of ash. That's the perfect

way to do it because let me say that again, you cannot have life

without oxygen, just like you can't have a fire without oxygen. That's basically

all a fire is is a hyper oxidation process. And no matter what you

burn, guess what you're left with, Jose. Let me ask you something.

If you burn a book, or if you burn a cardboard box,

or if you burn your car, what do you get? You're left with

the ass Matthew that that fire is thought enough, that's what you get.

You get ash right, you are reduced to carbon? Correct, Yeah,

that's really what we're talking about here. You're reduced to carbon. And man,

this was the perfect way to relay that. But when you look at

it and it nobody translates it that way, do they, Jose? No,

No, that's one of the words where I was trying to search it

out to the Bible and it just kept saying the same thing, and I

was like, well, what is that you guys? Just keep it,

keep repeating yourself. I'm not getting an explanation of what that actually is.

Isn't that a wonderful way to put that in there right there? Mm hmm?

I mean what comes before it? Yeah, that's right. What comes

after it. Yeah, yeah, that's that's good phraseology. Right, and

then you put this word right in the middle. But if you don't understand

it, you're thinking of your shof. That's dirty, Jose. You're right

instinctively you said with you rubbed that on your wedding dress, you get it

all dirty. It's pure carbon. No, No, it's not dirty.

Ose. You do know that's what they make so right, Yes, and

you are right, Matthew. The only way dirty and black is is if

you don't let it burn hot enough. If you if that fire is hot

enough, it's all ass. There's no black in there. There is no

black. The black is a fire that has not burned hot enough. Those

are still impurities. You're not looking at pure carbon. Amen. But literally,

Jose, wouldn't you liken that to this process we're going to go through

when Christ gets back. That's exactly that's exactly what we're told, Matthew.

That's how we're changed. He's going to burn away all of those impurities,

all those you know when you get put in the furnace, right, all

that all that sludge, all that all that stuff that makes the metal not

pure, That all gets burned away. Let me ask you this, what

do you make of the third verse youthful in beauty, you are beyond the

sons of men the third verse, Matthew, is what you're talking about,

yes, or the second verse, the third verse, youthful in beauty,

you are beyond the sons of men. Now it's different in the mesoretic text.

In the that's that's what that's what is, that's what's again. That's

what's a little confusion with this chapter. Matthew trying to figure find the verse

right, So where it says there right, Some translations say thou art fairer,

right, Matthew, that's the verse we're talking about, right, Yes,

okay, so that that word there for for thou art. I found

that as G. Fifty six eleven, belonging to the right hour or season

or timely. And let me show you the verse that I found this in.

Again, the English translation just doesn't do it justice. Matthew. This

is we're getting the impectation of everything is beautiful in its time. Right.

So I'm going to read Isaiah sixty three, the first six verses just to

understand what time we're talking about. Your Matthew, who is this and I'm

going to read it in the Let's do the to Thompson's Let's do the Bretons.

Who is this that has come from Edam? Read garments from Bozor thus

fair in his apparel with mighty strength, I speak of righteousness and saving judgment.

Wherefore other garments read and thy raiment as fresh from a trodden wine press.

I am full of trodden great and of the nations. There is not

a man with me. And I trampled them in my fury and dashed them

to pieces as earth, and brought down their blood to the earth. For

the day of recompense has come upon them, and the year of redemption is

at hand. And I looked, and there was no helper, and I

observed, and none upheld. Therefore my arm delivered them, and mine anger

junied, and I trampled them in my anger and brought down their blood to

the earth. So, Matthew, this farer, this is not talking about,

how you know, some dainty beauty here. This is talking about this

individual being beautiful in his time. And this is what God's talking about right

here this time. That's right, And let's go back to this little tidbit

here. How could the sons of Karb be writing this all right, No

one understand, ladies and gentlemen, they got to see Jesus in Haydes.

They were able to perceive him in his fullness. Doesn't everybody realize that they

actually got to perceive his true form. And when you realize that, this

message becomes off the hook, It becomes wait a minute, you're saying that,

yes, ladies and gentlemen, he went into hades for three days.

You know that from the book of Peter. Yes he did. He stayed

in the grave three days. They actually got to perceive is real form.

No one understands this, ladies and gentlemen. You and I don't know,

Dowey, Jose, No, we don't know. The disciples don't know.

Ladies and gentlemen. This is true, Jose, This is true statement.

He came back and he hung out with them for quite a while. Right,

He made him fish on the beach. He talked to him. He

told Thomas, hey, come put your finger with a hole en right,

Yes, yes, know and understand this. The sons of Kara alone got

to see how he's going to be. And now you realize that this is

this is crazy off the hook. Jose, when you really come to an

understanding, the only ones who could have't wrote this was the ones that Jesus

come and visited in Hades. Right, that had been translated not to heaven.

They weren't translated to heaven. They were translated to Hades. They got

to view his his beauty. Yes, And just to kind of tie it

in a little bit more, Matthew, as I was reading a little bit

more of Isaiah sixty three, obviously God's time He's leading us there by putting

in that word right before beauty. And so when I went in verse five

of Isaiah sixty three where it says there was none to help, that's the

same word, Matthew. That's in Genesis two where it talks about the helpmate

for the woman. So again, I mean, I think the way God

does is, Matthew is just again it blows your mind. I just don't

know how it was to put it because so highly complex. Yes, it

is extremely complex what he's doing here, and extremely wonderful. Yes, amen,

So what other verses you want to bring out here? What other Greek

words did you look at you want to bring out? So if we take

a look at that pen Matthew, that shows up. That's the word calamus

g. Twenty five sixty three, And that comes up in Ezekiel forty and

Revelation eleven. And I'll start with the with the one in Revelation and read

that for us I can find the right transition. And again, this is

all about timing right. And there was given to me a read like unto

a rod, and the Angel stood saying, rise and measure the temple of

God and the altar. And then that worship therein that word re Matthew.

And the same word in Ezekiel chapter forty, which talks about the same thing,

measuring the temple of God. And again, Matthew, what's what happens

to us when we get married to the bridegroom? What do we become right?

Whose body is the temple? Who do we become one with? Again,

Matthew, it's just like bout repeating himself when he's repeating himself. But

it's just again, it's just hammering at home, Matthew. Well, yes,

ladies and gentlemen, what is verse fifteen in this chapter? Yes,

this this read starts out this chapter. Verse fifteen is when he becomes king.

He is not king right now, ladies and gentlemen, No, he

isn't. He has not been coronated yet. He gets coronated in Revelation,

chapter eleven, verse fifteen. That's when he gets coronated. And now that

you go back to Psalms forty five, you realize this is what the Greek

is pushing for. He is pushing for this one, who is fairer than

the sons of men, to become keen, future tense. Gird your sword

on your thio mighty one. He is not king yet. He is telling

that this song is telling Jesus to put on his sword and be keen,

and in your majesty, ride on victoriously. This this is a command,

And ladies and gentlemen, whoever is writing this psalm is trying to prompt Jesus

to do this very thing. Take note. Good, Oh go ahead,

Matthew. I'll let you finish your thoughts before I jump in. Take note

of the latter, the latter part of what you all are looking at in

your English Bibles verse four, The latter part of it, and it says

it this way, let your right hand teach you awesome things, Ladies and

gentlemen. This can only happen in the process. It's not past tense.

It can only be future tents, Hosy. So you brought up there,

Matthew, the verse with yourd your sword upon your thigh. That's the exact

same phrasing in the Greek, the exact same words that's used in Exodus thirty

two twenty. What's talking about what Moses commanded once he came down from the

mountain and down the people with the golden calf. So those aren't God doesn't

say that lightly in this chapter here, Matthew, No, no, he's

not. You know, let's talk about this a little bit. What everybody

is seeing in verse five in their bibles is extremely difficult. It says from

the nats, your arrows are sharp, O powerful one, people's fall under

you. Because this is inserted in between, you're supposed to know that in

the heart of the king's enemies is this arrow. This clause in between it,

people's fall under you. It's not in the right tints. It's out

of place. It's saying that your arrows are sharp. People is going to

fall whenever you do this thing. But this arrow is going to be in

the heart of the king's enemies. It's very difficult even to try to translate

it's. It's extremely difficult to translate it's it's out of place and out of

time. Take note the next verse, Your throne o God is forever an

error, and ever a rod of equity is the rod of your rule.

You love righteousness and hated lawlessness. Therefore, God, ladies and gentlemen,

your God annoying to you with the all of rejoicing beyond your partners. What

do you make of that verse, Jose? So where I found that word

partners right? Let me see if I can find it a good translation of

it. So it shows up in Hebrews one nine right, which is basically

just quoting from there, but also in Hebrews six's four, where it

says, for it is impossible for those who were once enlightened and have tasted

the head in the gift, and were made partakers of the Holy ghost.

Right, that's verse four, partakers is that same word partners right, and

have tasted the good word of God and the powers of the world to come.

If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance, seeing

they crucify themselves. The son of God fresh and put him to an open

shame. Jose, who's he talking about? Kind of sounds like the sons

of Kora, Matthew, or at least somebody or someone who is going to

facilitate what they have done. Yes, amen, because there is no doubt

who rules and reigns with him. Amen. Amen, there is no doubt.

Read that verse you just read again, please, for it is impossible

for those who have tasted, for those who were once enlightened and have tasted

of the heavenly gifts and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost, and have

tasted the good word of God and the powers of the world to come,

if they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repent it, seeing

they crucify to themselves the sent of God afresh had put him to an open

shame. Are we told Matthew about a certain angel that doesn't that we'll not

forgive in a certain place. Yes we are, Yes we are, because

as far as I know, I mean, we've still got a chance right

now to repent, and we better take advantage of it if we have it.

But there's a certain point where that no longer works. You know,

there's a couple of things I have to say here. This is a very

difficult text. Yes, and one thing is for sure, Karol's rebellion is

going to take place. And we've talked about this in past episodes, even

as of late. Here jose that you would have to be psychotic to do

this, once you'd been taken on operations wings, you'd have to be psychotic.

I don't know any other phraseology to give it. I mean, you'd

have to be You'd have to be mentally incapacitated to do this, right,

Yeah, it doesn't make any sense. But one thing is for sure.

These are Christ's fellows. There's no doubt about who they are. These are

christ fellows. Here Relation chapter twenty first four. Then I saw thrones and

they that sat on them, and judgment was given them. And I saw

the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and

because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the Beast

or his image, and do not received the mark on their forehead or on

their hands, and they came to life and reign with Christ for a thousand

years. You would definitely say this is his fellows, right right, They're

not his bride, Matthew, they are not. Let let say that again,

hose is those fellows that he's talking about. There are not the bride,

that is not the bride. And one thing is for sure, these

got sealed by God and was left in the outer darkness. They were not

taken on operations eagles wings because they were never bridle That's the only way I

can put it. They were never a part of the bridal procession. Albeit

they're not the only ones, because there is one group who will most certainly

in all points in time be went with the King once they arrive, and

they truly are going to be translated to heaven. Amen, Jose, Amen,

Amen. Revelation Chapter fourteen makes himself perfectly clear, perfectly clear that this

group goes to heaven and they never leave Christ's side. And we might as

well go ahead and mention it seems how we're talking about it right now.

It states it quite plainly, ladies and gentlemen, states it quite plainly.

At the end. It's a little difficult, I like how some of the

other translation does it. It has been presupposed in times past more than one

occasion. As a matter of fact, that is it possible that one group

of one hundred and forty four thousand is related to the other group of one

hundred and forty four thousand, and that that's when canon worms. I don't

want to open, but I will read this verse. Jump on down to

the subtulagin verse seventeen in the place of your father's your sons were born.

Okay, no, no, no, no, no, that don't make

sense. Let's go back to Esther. Okay, take a deep breath.

Everybody, take a deep breath. Think about Esther. Esther, now,

it is very well possible that her son, let's say, her firstborn son,

was born of that king, right jose right, so that would obviously

be the crown prince, right, yeah, Okay, you're in a deep

dark catch twenty two because under no point in time would her son replace her

dad because her dadd was not Persian. Let me say that again. There's

no king ever ever that his daughter was the queen. Do you understand that,

ladies and gentlemen, the kingship is only paternal, it's not maternal.

Do you understand the queen's dad is not the king? And that's why when

you look at this verse in Greek, you're like scratching your head, like,

no, no, no, that ain't right. Let's talk about Bathsheba.

Amen amen, Okay, so we're talking about Bathsheba. So Bathsheba had

Solomon, right, Yeah, Solomon did not replace Bathsheba's dad, did he?

No, he replaced his own dad. Amen. Amen. What this

is saying? It can't be meaning what it's saying. It can't be.

But if it'll make your head swim in Greek. But this is what it

means. In the place of your father's your sons were born, you will

appoint them rulers in all the earth. It let's read this in a couple

of other translations. Let's see here, let's read this out of what is

this? This is the twenty twelve translation. Instead of your father's children are

born to you, you shall make them princes over all the earth. You're

like, what what did that say? Instead of your father okay, instead

of your father's children were born. What that's retarded. Let's let's get to

the next translation. Okay, the next translation, it's the same thing.

Instead of your father's children are born to you. So this adds to it.

It puts in there they were born to you at least, so the

next translation. What is this one? This is the Breton translation. What

does it say? It says, instead of thy father's children are born,

are born to thee. Well that's at least trying to make the point that,

yeah, your children are your father's children. No, no, it's

not so, and you already read it out of the Thompson. Let me,

let me do this again. Instead of thy father's sons are born to

thee, those that shall make princes over all the land. Pose that your

thoughts, what on earth does this verse talking about? I mean, you're

you're you're hinting at what it's say, Matthew, But yes, it is,

it is in English. It's just it's it's just confusing. And again,

unless you no Revelation fourteen, unless you know Revelation twelve, then you

can start to make sense of it. Right, but just by reading it

in the English here, it's not the way. It's not the way it's

one, it's not the way it should be phrased. And two it doesn't

make sense like you're saying, right, if your father is not the king

and he had sons, then they wouldn't be princes at all. Yeah,

queen having sons from a king. Okay, those are princes that that makes

total sense. But so why even the fathers if you're trying to talk about

these princes being set up? I know I mentioned the queen's father. Yeah,

I know this. It's a real complicated way to say something very simple.

Yes here here, let me just just jumped into my mind. So

give me a second. Everybody's going to get a kick out of it when

they hear it, because it triggers a remembrance, sir, within me.

Okay. Genesis twenty five, verse twenty three, the Lord said to her,

two nations are in your womb, and two people's will be separated from

your body, and one people will be stronger than the other, and the

older shall serve the younger. Let me say that one more time, the

older will serve the younger. That is a really simplistic way to say what

that verse just said. Let's take a look at it again. Let's try

it this time in the New American Standard Bible. So this is what the

Hebrews says. In place of your father's will be your sons, you shall

make them princes all in the earth. This states that, well, this

kind of makes sense, right, This is talking about a king. So

his father's was king and his sons are kings. Right, But the way

it says that in the Greek, it's like making you scratch your head,

like, what are you saying? This is an important text, This is

an extremely important message for everybody to wrap their minds around. What do you

make of this? Verse sixteen? They will be brought with gladness and rejoicing.

They will be led into a king's shrine. What do you make of

that? Jose? So I thought different translations change translate that as as temple,

right or palace? So either way they're they're bringing bought into into the

king's house, right, Well, if it was a house, it's say

house right, right, Yes, it makes you scratch your heads like,

yes, it's making me stratch your head. It really truly is, because

now you know, now you know where my head was herding mask you after

studying this, I mean, just this is good stuff. There is no

better stuff than this right here, One thing is for sure. Let me

take note here that in verse thirteen we can get really technical with what this

actually says in Greek, because well here the nets says golden tassels. I

appreciate that that's not what it says. Literally in Greek it says golden fringe.

So there's some highly technical things you can get out of this if you

really tear apart the Greek. And another thing that we need to talk about,

Jose, is the Greek here states that something that's physically impossible. That's

why the Septuget will avoid using gold or golden, because there is no such

thing as fibered gold. Amen. Amen, you cannot weave with gold,

can you, Jose, No, you cannot. And ladies and gentlemen,

I'm being perfectly serious with you. This is why you bring up translations of

the Setuagen that has been keyed to strongs. They refuse to key this word

for golden. Now in your strongs it is G fifty five fifty two.

It's golden, Yes it is, but you can't weave with it. You

certainly couldn't weave with it when this was written. This, once again is

another thing with using that word for ash and using this word for gold.

You are going to be changed, Jose. Your thoughts on that. I

know you've looked at this in Greek. What did you think? Yeah,

this was this was one of the words that was I had a hard time

tracking down, Matthew. But it makes it again. If you just read

it in English, it makes sense. And I'm saying that because obviously,

if we're putting on you garments, those garments can be embroidered with gold,

right if we're thinking how how if we're trying to take in everything God's telling

us about our appearance and about these garments that we're putting on. So when

I read it in a poetic sense, it makes sense to me. But

when you get down to the details and say, wait a minute, how

would you actually ever weave with gold? It can't be done, Matthew,

No, it can't be done. No, there is no fibered gold right

there. I mean that's like saying, yeah, we can weave with lead.

No you can't, No, you can't. So we're in it's top

the hour hose. So we got to get out of here. Your your

closing comments again, Matthew. When I read this chapter and it's plain English,

and I'm just kind of have like a bigger picture and I'm absorbing it

that way, it's it's uh, it can fit into my mind, right,

Matthew. Its bits in there. But when you start digging down and

trying to figure out what God is actually saying. That stuff cat bit in

my head right now. So I'm very grateful for what He has been able

to stuff in there, with what I've studied, and with with with you

shared tonight. And so I'll accept that. And and and we didn't even

get into some of the harder words, Matthew, we were we really were

touching the easier words to discuss in this chapter. There's so much more I

got saying in here. So yeah, this is this is a great,

a great place to start this series, man, this theme series I hear

in song for five. Yes, it is the perfect place to start,

because you're going to be changed. You're not going to be translated. No,

you're not. Amen, So all right, let's take her out of

here in prayer. Dear Haavenly Father, thank you for this time, this

very precious time that you allowed me and jose to share with your children of

this wonderful message that you've left here for us, all of those who are

alive and remain at the Perugia of your King. This is very exciting stuff

and stuff that is I've been looking at it my whole life. Lord and

it is wonderful for me to set it and just get a headache over this

very day at lunchtime. It gave me a headache just looking at it and

looking at it and looking at it when it is too wonderful for us.

It is just too wonderful for us what is being said here. And we

petition you, o Lord, and we cannot wait for the day when you

will coronate your son for revelation. Chapter eleven, verse fifteen is a promise.

It is going to happen. He will be king, Oh yes he

will, and he will have an entourage, Oh yes he will, and

his kingdom will be said up marvelously and powerfully, and we will have nothing

to worry about. You will treat us even as Queen Esther was treated,

and we will have absolutely nothing to worry about. Dear Lord, please hurry

up. It is going to be so wonderful. It is going to be

be yond words. Thank you, Lord for this time that you've allowed me

and Jose once again, thank you so much. And I pray that you

bless the everyone that partakes in this program, whether it was here live or

in the archive, the video or the audio. Lord, please bless them

and send your Holy Spirit to show them what is to come. In the

name of the Lord Jesus Christ, we pray Amen and Amen Amen. Until

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