064 Book of Ascents Pt 4

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Draweth nine. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the program. We

are your host Jose and Matthew. Tonight we're getting back to the Book of

a Sense of course, but before then we're going to start out with prayer,

and before Jose praise. I think he got a praise report and some

things he wants to share. So Jose, you got the mic. Yeah,

Matthew, thank you. So we discussed last week. You know how

I do Bible study with my sons, and you know, I'm doing my

best to help them understand the timeline. And and we did that again today

and we were in Matthew twenty four and verse two or it speaks about the

stones being thrown down right. And of course I've got two boys and they're

they have two different brains, two different personalities. My youngest is very detail

oriented. He's he's the one that that gets straight a's. He's the one

that likes everything, uh, you know covered in the line and and and

in its place. And my oldest is more of the free spirit. He's

the one that when he would be playing out in the park with the kids,

instead of focusing on the ball and and you know the kids throwing the

ball, he was the one that was playing with the grass. Right that

that's my oldest son. So he's my free spirit. So we were we

had gone all through math twenty four, and we were going through the verse

two. I was focusing on just to get there, pick their brains and

see what they're what they were thinking. And of course my youngest, the

detail oriented one, focused in on the physical aspect of that. And and

we've discussed before, Matthew, how Robinson's Arch and the Whaling Wall relates to

that verse and the fact that it has not been fulfilled yet. Uh.

And the only time it's going to be fulfilled is on that great day of

the Lord, which is discussed in Matthew chapter twenty four. And so I

was using that to kind of show them the timeline. But my oldest,

when I asked him what he thought about that verse right away, Matthew,

he jumped, oh, that's talking about the the the body as the temple

of the Holy Spirit, and you know, I just kind of looked at

him and it's like, okay, you're you're, you're you're stealing my thunder

there a little bit, son, But but I mean he hit the he

hit it on the head, right, Matthew. That's that's where his his

brain took him. And of course, you know we didn't we didn't get

into too many details and into how that relates, but that specifically what he

said is talked about also in Matthew twenty four in regards to the abomination of

desolation, and I knew know you and Leonard have discussed that quite a bit

in a few shows recently. So that was just that just amazing, Matthew,

you know, just a simple little Bible study, just trying to rehash

the timeline, just kind of to kind of seement it a little bit more.

And how of course they were both right, Matthew, they were both

on point. They both both of the things that they said were true,

but one took it from one direction and the other one took it from the

other direction. And boy, where they meet in the middle is powerful.

So that's my that's my praise report for today. Well, that certainly is

worth praising. Anytime you get this kind of interaction with children, that's worth

praising. And everybody knows that that. Well. I don't know if I've

spoke about this publicly, but private Lejose and I certainly have talked about this,

that children's ministries are seriously lacking. They're they're seriously lacking. I when

I was a child, I was at church four days a week. Now,

three of those days or three of those times was in church service,

so Sunday morning, Sunday night, Wednesday night. But before Wednesday night we

did well. Back then, the program was called Christian Youth Crusaders, it

was called CYC and our particular church, that was like a year long vacation

Bible school. I mean literally we got drilled. That was literally Bible school.

When I mean Bible school, that's what I mean. We did not

go and and color pictures and do finger painting. Oh no, we we

were drilled. We were taught the Bible. And then on Thursdays that was

youth group night. So literally, to say the least, today the children

children ministries are seriously lacking. So that is a wonderful praise. Now,

that is a wonderful praise that you actually got them to sit down, sit,

and you know, sit down in the chair long enough to even think

about it without having you know, a pat in their hand or a phone

in their hand. Right. Oh, that's that is praiseworthy. So absolutely,

absolutely all right, Hose you probably ought to lead us out in prayer.

Absolutely, your heavenly Father, thank you for gathering us together. Thank

you providing us time and space to come together, to join, and to

allow the presence of your Son and your Holy Spirit within our gathering, because

that's what you have promised us for. And I asked that for this meeting

today, as me and Matthew read through your psalms, read through your word,

we asked that your Holy Spirit and your Son be with us so that

we can edify the Ecclesia. We can strengthen them and show them how they

can endure what is to come, and ultimately remind them of the promises that

you have given us because you are faithful. And we ask all this in

the name of your Son, Our doordens savor Jesus Christ. Amen, Amen

and Amen. Well, hey, this should be lickedy split, ladies and

gentlemen, this should literally be lickedy split. We're down to four verses,

and if you can't do four verses in sixty minutes, I don't even know

what to say about that. But Lisa, let's get a Jose's opening comment.

So what's your opening comments, Jose on this very very very short chapter

Psalm one three in the Book of a Sense. Well, Matthew, I

I'm applying I'm trying to apply the timeline to all of our readings in the

in the these psalms of a Sense, And I'm using that to understand because

they are so short and so right, not a lot of detail in four

verses, as you know, just just by the words themselves, and and

so it's it's you have a tendency to just kind of read it and read

through it and boom you're done. And if you don't consider where on the

timeline God is speaking to you with this psalm, you know, you can

just kind of read it, read it and forget it, right, which

will which we know. I mean, that's just that's just dumb to do,

because even in four verses, God's gonna gonna blow your mind with what

he has to say. But taking that approach, Matthew, where I placed

this in the timeline is when he's sat back down on his throne what's described

in Daniel chapter seven. And so that's how I approach this psalm to try

and understand what God is trying to tell me here. Matthew, that's that's

my opening. Well, that that's absolutely the case, and especially here this

being during the millennial reign of Christ. Of course Christ our of course God

has sat back down on his throne. But we got that from the last

chapter, right, I mean we spend quite a lot of time on that

that you give, Matthew. That phraseology doesn't matter Hebrew and Greek. When

you tell me about the setting of thrones, the setting up of thrones,

I know what it's talking about. And he does the same thing with this

very first verse. Okay, he he shows me something and I can see

straight to eternity. I don't I don't allow the English translations to get in

my way. I can look at the Greek. I'll look at the Hebrew,

and I know I can see straight to eternity. I know what it's

talking about, I know where it's going. I know why he's saying these

things. So you're you're absolutely right on time, and especially mentioning about those

thrones where he sets back down on his front, and not only that,

when he does that, other thrones are established, right, no doubt about

that. And that's one of the end time entities. That's one of the

groups of one and forty four thousand. We're not going to spend a whole

lot of time there. That will just be information overloaded. But your opening

comments are right on time, right on target. Where does this fit?

I mean, God is just not going YadA YadA, YadA YadA. He's

not just babbling out words here. And so let's do this. You are

schooling your two sons in the Bible, God's Holy Word. That tells me

you yourself have been schooled in it in both its aspect as a lamp to

your feet and as alighting to its path. So tell me this is your

first rodeo. You've had many, many, many, many many Bible studies

over your life with different, different teachers. Have you ever heard a lesson

on Psalm one twenty three? No, Matthew, I have not. Have

you ever heard it mentioned? No? Okay, have you ever seen this

chapter in cross references? Not that I came and call Matthew. No.

Now that should get people's attention, because you know, usually in sermons,

right, or somebody's giving a discourse, if they're scholarly, the first thing

they'll do is say, we're this is quoted in the Old Testament, right,

whenever talking about the New Testament. Yes, you come up with zeros

here. Now, some of the chapters in the Book of Assent, it

certainly does have major cross referen and just one of which we've already talked about,

pray for the peace of Jerusalem, right right. But here you're you're

you're coming up really empty handed. You're not really getting anything anywhere academically from

these four short verses. Really not a whole that talked about, not really

famous. But this one's got punch right from the getting, right from the

very first verse. You give me those Greeks, and it doesn't matter.

I was gonna say Greek, it doesn't matter. You give me these words

in Hebrew Greek, and I can see straight through eternity because I know the

plan. When you know the plan, you know the timeline. There's only

one timeline. I mean, we can even talk about this, what is

the biblical prophetic model. There's just a plain reading of the text produces a

post tribe premillennial position. That's the natural reading of the Bible, God's Holy

Word. Now you realize most people have to be thrown out when this model

is applied to them, because most people don't even know. Well I'm not

going to say most, but at least half of the church here in the

West, they believe in criticism. They don't believe there's a millennial reign of

Christ. Okay, what about the other half. The other half thinks it's

a pre tribulation They have a pre tribulation prophecy model. Well, I'm here

to tell you the Bible, God's Holy Word. Who's the plainness of the

text? You just read it. It is his historic it's historic premillennialism.

That's what it is. That's what. The only way you can get around

this simple fact is to remove chapters nineteen and twenty from the Book of Revelation.

Correct, hose correct. That's the only way to do it. That's

just the only way to do it. And if you say, and if

you hold to a pre tribulation event for when those of us who are alive

and remain going through the changing, well you can't do that because the Bible

plainly states, outside of revelation, your changing occurs at the resurrection. Correct,

Hose, Correct, Matthew. Yes, there's no arguing with the Bible,

God's Holy Word. The resurrection occurs at the second Coming of Christ.

So the plane, if you want the biblically authorized prophecy model, it's post

trip, pre millennial. That's what it is. That's what the Bible is.

When you apply that to these four verses, it's going to make sense.

You can't be confused. And the people who are confused, they're going

to spin you around and have you chasing your tail, so you don't know

heads from tails. And unfortunately Jose has found this out repeatedly over the past

thirteen years. Repeatedly correct Jose, Correct, yep. And I have numerous

times laid out public challenges and private challenges for you. If you see what

I'm saying is straying left or right of the Bible, God's Holy Word,

call me out, call me out right now, call me out right now.

Don't let me do not let me shame the name of the Lord Jesus

Christ. And Jose can attest to that. I've always stated that publicly and

privately, you have the right to say, hey, Matthew, shut up,

No, no, you're wrong. You can disagree, you can put

your two cents worth in. You're allowed to do that. But just so

you won't know, the Bible only has one prophetic model. It's post trip

Pree millennium. That's what it is. That's that's the plain reading of the

pext So your thoughts on that, Jose, is that how you were approaching

that? Yeah, yeah, absolutely, Matthew. That's that's become the easiest

way to that I've found recently to approach scripture is with that that timeline in

mind, the one you're discussing, because it's it's we've all heard so many,

so many teachings, Matthew, so many, you know, so many

lectures, so many commentaries right on on the Bible on prophecy, and it's

in our head. I mean, you know, it's it's hard to avoid

it. That's all bouncing around in our head. And before I understood the

timeline, I would try to fit in those what I've heard, those commentaries.

I would try to fit it in and say, well maybe this is

what that that commentary was talking about. Well maybe maybe this is where you

know they they were they were kind of online, so so let me see

if the rest of what they're saying it lines up. But that's just not

very effective, Matthew, because because you do get confused when you when you

approach reading scripture that way you start, you just start twisting yourself up.

But but again, there's plenty of places where we can go where God shows

us a timeline, you know, whether that's Matthew twenty four, whether that's

First Desalonius, chapter five, there's and there's way more than that, where

he shows us the way things are going to happen, what is to come,

and you just use that model in your reading. And we've been told

even the stuff in the Old Testament, the stuff talking about Abraham, the

stuff talking about in Judges and Psalms, everything is prophetic. And so we

can use that whatever we're reading and line it up with the timeline and see

what God's trying to show us. But specifically, when you are reading prophecy,

that's when you absolutely need to stick to the timeline because that's going to

guide you and that's going to help you understand what's being said. Because again

there's just just because of reading it in the English, Matthew, it's too

easy to say, well, is this talking about you know, the rest

of our children, or is this talking about the ones that are in Zion?

Or is this talking about the woman right there? There's and and how

many there's not very many Christians that even understand those three entities, Matthew,

that that there's separate entities in the Book of Revelation, and so you add

that into the mix and it's just absolute confusion. So the absolute starting point,

I would say, is the timeline. Getting that down, and you

can find that in the gospels, Matthew. You can get that timeline in

the Gospels and use that to continue your reading. And let's talk about that

a little bit, because through the newcomer to the new comer to this program,

we've said some strange, strange things because they need to understand the whole

timeline. This is the whole timeline, ladies and gentlemen, The whole timeline

is this. What lies in front of you is a period called the birth

panks that comes first. What comes next is the tribulation. Before that tribulation

event comes. So after the birth pains, before the great tribulation is the

pre trip relocation. Please, if you're going to participate in Marianatha ministries,

you must do so with the use of something to write with and something to

write on. You need to write these things down. So we are pre

trib relocation. That's what. Look, jose and I have did so much

time. I've spent literally thousands of man hours on this very topic. The

Bible always states you are going to be taken to the place where you become

the sheep of his pasture. It's repeatedly said so many different ways that if

you don't understand it now you realize why people are getting confused saying that it's

the rapture slash resurrection that occurs pre trib No. No, what is pretrib

is your relocation to a safe place. The duration of time spent in the

tribulation is exactly like the forty two years spent by the children of the Promise

in the wilderness for forty years. It's the same thing. It's the same

thing. So after the tribulation is the return of Christ, at which we

who are alive and remain are changed, right after those who are asleep in

Jesus. That's when the rapture slash resurrection takes place. Once he gets back,

the millennial reign of Christ starts. Everybody says this, ha Gui Isaiah,

everybody. Everybody says this. Ezekiel says this. Everybody says it.

So that is your timeline. If you think you can challenge that timeline,

please get in contact with me, please. I mean, over the past

thirteen years, I assure you that Jose's had plenty of time to bounce every

single verse off that timeline. And as a matter of fact, a lot

of the verses that he's studied has been because of his participation in Maranatha ministries.

Just like today, I already stated it. So this is already a

matter of record, and it probably is the same for you, ladies and

gentlemen. Jose, I will ask you again, have you ever heard a

sermon or a Bible study on Psalms one twenty three? No? I haven't,

Matthew, So this is the first time you're gonna hammer this out right?

Yes, Praise God, excuse me. So with that in mind,

I guess we should just read it, right. I mean, this is

going to create a first impression, right right, all right, ladies and

gentlemen, I'm going to be reading from the New King James version. Why

am I doing that just because I'm going to just to prove to you the

English translation doesn't matter. You need to be using a translation, not a

paraphrase. So that absolutely precludes the NIV. The NIV is not a translation,

it's a paraphrase. So from the New King James version Psalms one twenty

three, unto you, I lift up my eyes, oh you, who

dwell into heavens, behold, as the eyes of servants look to the hand

of their masters, as the eyes of a maid to the hand of her

mistress. So our eyes look to the Lord, our God, until he

has mercy on us. Have mercy on us, O, Lord, have

mercy on us, for we are exceedingly filled with contempt. Our soul is

exceedingly filled with the scorn of those who are at ease, with the contempt

of the proud. I was like, what's your first impression. First impression,

Matthew, is the way that the body parts are described in the In

the first stanza of this psalm, I lift up my eyes the eyes of

the servants on the hand of the master, the eyes of the maid servant

on the hand of her mistress. Very very interesting wording, Matthew, that

God's using there. We know that the way he describes Jerusalem is as the

apple of his eye, and so that's that's it's it's because of this,

you know, this phrasing of that of that word their eyes, and of

course telling us that God is enthroned in heavens. He's there, he's in

the heavens. That's what keyed to me that this is when the six stealed

event has happened, the great day of the Lord. He's come down here,

He's made the world topsy turvy. The way it's described in Isaiah twenty

four, the world was reeling to and fro as a drunkard. And now

he's he's gone up and he's back on his throne. And now now we're

in entering that that period that's described as the Great Tribulation, that's described as

the one thousand, two hundred and sixty days. And that's that's what I'm

seeing. That this that this that that along the timeline where this saw mis

taking place. Matthew, hey man, I mean, hey man, I

appreciate your opening comments and I have to say absolutely agree with you. And

when you give those words to me, dwell in heaven? Well, HOSEI.

That should immediately trigger remembrancers in you, because the first, very first

thing I did is taught you that well. Revelation chapter twelve. That is

your paradigm. Amen, that's your paradigm. And don't let anybody take that

from you. That is your timeline. That's your timeline, ladies and gentlemen.

That that's your timeline. That's really the only timeline you need to know.

So it's no secret that those who dwell in heaven Revelation chapter twelve,

Verse twelve. For this reason rejoice o heavens, and you who dwell in

them? Amen. Amen. Okay, who is this time? Who are

those who dwell in heaven? Ladies and gentlemen. Revelation chapter twelve, just

got done telling you. Okay, we've talked about this so many times.

Okay. Up in verse five, it tells you who is dwelling in heaven.

It says, and Shay gave birth to a son, male child,

who is to rule all the nation with a rod of iron. And her

child was caught up to God into his throne. Of course, the following

verses described that's exactly the event that triggers war in heaven. Yes, it

is. I don't know what you're priest or your preacher or your teacher taught

you. I don't care what they said. And Jose, you and I

both know, Oh my goodness. There's all kinds of movies about the war

in heaven with the angels, right yep. In any of those movies does

it say it's over these children? No, Matthew, because it is.

I mean, ladies and gentlemen, what did What have you been taught as

to why the angels fault? If somebody taught you something different as to what

other than what? Revelation chapter twelve states you don't know your heads from tails,

because it's specifically these children. Where else is this mentioned? Well?

Revelation chack at thirteen the very next chapter, and he opened his mouth in

blasphemies against God and to blasphem his name and his tabernacle, that is,

those who dwell in heaven. Ladies and gentlemen, Am I the first one

that told you this, ladies and gentlemen. Revelations chapter thirteen, verse six

is only in the context of Revelation twelve, verse twelve, and seems how

you should know that this one in reference here this beast, Ladies and gentlemen,

you should know why these angels have fun. It was because of these

children who now dwell in heaven. These are called in the Old Testament Hebrew

the Emmanuel eloheme. Yes it is. I don't need you to tell me

cross references. And where this where the King James version says this cross references

to. I can see the Hebrew. I know what Emmanuel is in Isaiah

chapter seven and eight. I know what that is in Greek and Hebrew.

I know them both. And I also know the instance is where the Hebrew

says Emmanuel l. But it's puer o, it's plural. It's not l

Emanuel l. It's Emmanuel l o him Emanuel loheim. That's what it is.

I know where those are at. So with that in mind, you

should understand why it is this beast opens its mouth to blaspheme those who twelve

in heaven, because he has lost his place in heaven. I mean,

that is what Revelation chapter twelve states is the result of the war, they

can no longer go back up to heaven, right, Jose correct? Okay,

So when you just say those who dwell in heaven, you're triggering events,

you're triggering remembrancers in the Bible, God's holy word. That is just

quite simply inseparable. But here I'm seeing something else. Now I've really got

people going, what do you mean? Well and Revelation chapters eight or Revelation

chapter twelve and thirteen, and in both those instances twelve then thirteen, it's

a different word there. It's where we get the word for kents, where

you get the word for shutcote. It's now, listen, you need something

right with G forty six thirty seven, it's a tent to dwell in a

tent. But here, when we go back to the Psalms, you look

at that, and it's saying something different. It's saying something unique. Especially

in the Greek. It's it's it's quite interesting to look at. Now.

The problem is when you look at this. In most things that are keyed

to strongs, this part of the septuagen is key wrong. It just doesn't

tell you. It just doesn't tell you what it is. It doesn't for

some reason, it won't give you this this strongest number. It leaves it

blank. Now, interestingly enough, it'll give its parceling information. But here

in the septuagen it's G twenty seven thirty. You see, I don't need

it key to strong so I can read the Greek. I don't need someone

to tell me what it is. I know what it is. And this

Greek word is a compound word in Greek, and it comes from two words.

The first one it means according to or accordingly or with okay, and

that's G twenty five ninety six. The second is G thirty six eleven,

means to occupy permanently a residence. So here God switches up. He wants

you to know this is the time he goes back to heaven and now it's

his permanent residence. Did you hear what I said? Ladies and gentlemen,

doing this in Greek and switch it over to the Hebrew and check that out.

If you'd like to take time, Ladies and gentlemen, do it.

You'll see what I'm talking about. The Greek does something here. And Jose's

probably upset because Jose I've been using the word program since since well he got

in contact with this ministry. And if he's using the word program, he

will take this verse and switch it over to the said poligent to see what

it says, and it'll make you mad because that works. Not Keith,

the strongs, is it? Jose, No, it's not. Why not,

Jose? Why is that? It's not in strongs. That's that's the

only way you can tell it. You know, that's right. It doesn't

exist in strongs. Right, it's not there. That's funny, you know.

I'm I'm pretty sure that's G twenty seven thirty. Yeah, it is,

Yes, it is. I don't ladies and gentlemen, I don't need

you to contact some professor at some school of theology. I don't need nobody.

I've taken God's holy word and he'd gregg Greek and wrote it upon my

heart. I know what that word is, and I know why he's saying

it here. He's expecting you to know. This isn't the millennial reign of

Christ. He's expecting you to know. This is after Okay, this is

after you've tabernacled with him for one thousand two in the sixty days, Amen,

Jose, Amen, Matthew, Okay, we can prove this beyond any

shadow of bet Ladies, gentlemen, because it's right there in Revelation it's just

that people has confused you with it. But it is right there. It's

right there if you choose to look at it, and when you do,

when you see this, you'll understand what's going on. Because in Revelation chapter

seven, starting with verse nine, that's you. Now. I said earlier

that the only biblical model for prophecy is a free trib relocation, a great

gathering. There's going to be before the tribulation begins. You're going to be

gathered to what God calls his vineyard in some chapters, right, Jose,

correct, that's exactly what he's getting ready to do here. And as a

matter of fact, talking a little bit about the Greek as far as this

chapter is concerned, there's some things you need to know here. Here in

the Greek, it says that he will spread his tabernacle over you. That's

in verse fifteen. If you look into that, that word for spread,

that's in the future, perfect tense. And that's all I'm going to say.

That's all you need to know. I mean, to go further is

just going to be information overload. But literally, let me read this verse,

for this is the reason they are before the throne of God and they

serve him day and night in his temple, and he who sits on the

throne will spread his tabernacle over them. This is the pre tribulation relocation.

Yes, it is. I could go through the verses in the Old Testament

at nauseum where God says he's going to do this, and he didn't say

temple here. Check the Hebraica. No, that's not. In the Delisch

Hebrew to Testament. He doesn't say temple here, he says tabernacle. Where's

the only place the tabernacle was, Jose, Well, it was in the

wilderness. That's right. We know. Special things happen then, right,

For one, their clothes did not wear out for forty years? Right?

Correct? Is that normal? No, Matthew, Okay, let's do one

better. This is a very arid environment to place in question. Did their

sandals wear out? No? Oose is that physically possible? Not physically possible,

you know. Okay, So what's the best tennis shoes that you know

of? Okay, let's do this. What's the most expensive tennis shoes like

Air Jordan's right. Yeah, but even though Matthew, they're nothing but cheap

plastic, And how long would they last in the place in question in the

negiev how long would they last there. I'd be surprised if they even lasted

forty days, Matthew, let alone forty years. Well, you'd be you'd

be walking barefooted after four years. I mean, you'd still have the laces

tied up on the shoes, but you would be walking barefoot right because your

soles would wear right through the rubber. I mean, they'd look nice if

you didn't show people the bottom of the shoes. But so ladies know,

if this is the first time you've ever heard this, I'm sorry, but

I'm telling you this is your pre tribbery location and you're being taken to a

place that's kind of hard to describe using creation because this place you're taken to

it's in the middle of hell on Earth. Do you understand that type of

phraseology. I mean, if you think you're going through the tribulation and it's

still going to rain in the springtime, you obviously have mental problems. You're

disconnected from reality because I'm here to tell you, for one thousand and two

and sixty days, this is what God does to you. Your environment is

obviously not habitable because he orders death to flee from you, Aman Jose Amen,

Matthew. So just so you know, this is an oasis he creates

in the middle of a desert. But that's what the language means. That's

what he's talking about. This is what he means. This is what he's

talking about. Is that is that plausible with scriptures? Is that what the

Bible says, that he's going to take you to this special place? I

mean, is that what it says? Okay, Isaiah chapter forty, verse

eleven. Like a shepherd. He will tend his flocks in his arms.

He will gather the lambs and carry them in his bosom. He will gently

lead the nursing us. I mean, I could do this all day long.

I could literally do it all day long using I don't have to use

a single prophetic book. I mean, let's go to Ezekiel chapter thirty six,

verst. Twenty four, for I will take you from the nations,

gather you from all the lands, and bring you into your own land.

I could do this at nauseum, right, Jose, Yes, I may

be redundant for me to do it. It's needless to say, I know

who, what where. When he's talking about and the only thing he had

to do to do that. The only thing he had to do was this,

unto you, I lift up my eyes, oh you who dwell in

the heavens. That's all he had to tell me. I knew exactly who,

what were we? Why? I knew exactly that. This was after

Daniel chapter seven, he had sat back down in his throne. And here

the Greek is very clear, this is not to dwell in a tent.

This is to dwell in a permanent residence. So that's probably enough to shock

people, right, Jose, yep, Jse what time? How long have

we been on there? Oh? Oh my goodness, Jose, your comments

please? Well, Matthew, I want to hit on where you're talking about

with the thrones and tying that into Revelation chapter twelve. That second verse here

where it says the eyes of the servants look into the hand of their master.

That's that's what this translation is translating that word as Matthew. But when

you look into the Hebrew into the Greek, you see some interesting things.

That word master there and where it's talking about the servants. In the Hebrew

that says adem and in the Greek that says Kutian. Both of them are

plural, Matthew. So if we were to base this on other translations of

those words, we would we would literally see say lords. Yes, the

servants looked onto the hands of their lords. Boy, Matthew, I can

see why the translators said away from this and just used master, because when

you start getting to into what it means that that word is plural and there's

more than one lord seated in heaven, that's that's uh, that's got serious

implications, right, Matthew, to our to our current doctrines that that the

church holds. But this is obviously talking about those in Revelation fourteen that have

been taken with the Father. Like like you've just went through it all.

Just got why it's talking about them, Matthew. But these are those thrones

that that God has set up, and this is who's going to be that

part of the rod of Iron during the millennial reign of Christ. Right.

Well, well, I guess I should have shared some more, uh,

because this particular word ladies and gentlemen to go permanently, it's in Revelation fourteen,

verse six. Okay, because I don't think that I know I fear

the Lord, my God. So when I open up my mouth, I'm

afraid I'm going to shame him by saying the wrong thing. Okay, and

ladies and gentlemen, you need to know we've repeatedly read to you the first

five verses of Revelation Chapter fourteen. Have we not hose? Yes, we

have. This group is permanently is permanently in the train of the Lord Jesus

Christ. Right. Yes, it specifically says they follow him wherever he goes,

does it not? Yes? It does. Okay, ladies and gentlemen.

This word that we talked about d. Twenty seven thirty, it's right

there in the verse following it is that this word for lord could possibly be

used in the plural. It's right there. It's right there. It's just

I didn't. We've only got fifteen minutes left, don't we. Jose,

are you serious? We're not going to get to verse three and four.

I mean, ladies and gentlemen, if you want to do this privately,

ask Jose. I mean, Jose, you've literally witnessed me go on for

seven and a half hours straight. Right, Yes, Matthew, we have

Okay, ladies and gentlemen, I don't think I know, I don't believe.

I know, I know what God's word says. I don't believe what

it says. I know what it says. And there's a big difference,

right, Jose, Yes, there's a big difference between reading a piece of

literature and reference material, right right. You do not read a novel like

you do the dictionary, do you? No, you don't, Matthew.

But this so everybody knows, we've got to move on here. We just

don't have time. Your thoughts about the about verse three, well, Matthew,

I mean I can't help, but I mean we've been talking about this

the whole program. But yeah, the first two verses read like Revelation chapter

twelve to me, and then the last two verses read like Revelation thirteen.

That that's what I see there. You've got when you've got to be set

up. You've got the false prophet set up, and they are doing their

their best to torture, to kill the rest of her children, to torture

and kill those that remain right, that have to endure the great tribulation,

Matthew, which is not us, No, this is the other group one

and forty four thousand, right, correct? And they rule and reign with

Christ. Correct? Correct? Okay, why would you be saying this because

they're not in the place that's been prepared. They're not in God's vineyard,

are they? No, they're not. Matthew, that's that made there,

that's with her mistress or her lord in the feminine version of that word lord.

That's that's who's in that place prepared Matthew right there in verse two,

that made Okay, so let's be sure this jump to Revelation chapter twenty,

verse four again, hose, jump over there all right? Verse four.

That's I mean, we've read it. I mean, if we've read it

once, we've read it a million times just to read it for us.

Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given

to them. And that I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded

because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and

those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received

the mark on their forehead and on their hand. And they came to life

and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. Okay, ladies and gentlemen.

One of the groups of one hundred and forty four thousand was set. He

was sitting in those thumbs. One group of the other one hundred and forty

four thousand, they got their heads back. They came back to life after

being beheaded by the enemy, and ruled with Christ for a thousand years,

right, Jose Yes, So does this take a rocket scientist degree to figure

out that the first two verses are about one group the last two verses are

about the other group? Does that take a rocket scientist degree? No,

it doesn't, Matthew, Nope. So, ladies and gentlemen, just so

you know, there's three entities, okay. One group of one hundred and

forty four thousand is called the male Child, and they create a war in

heaven, okay, And the result of that war in heaven, they get

kicked out of heaven the bad angels. And then those bad angels murders the

other group of a one hundred and forty four thousand because they can't take the

mark of the beast because they've been sealed by God on their foreheads. Right

yep. So they can't take the mark of the beast. So these fallen

angels get mad at them and behead them. That this is like clockwork,

ladies and gentlemen, it's like clockwork. It Jose, I hate to rent

on your party, but I don't. I'm not getting confused here. This

makes perfect sense. Amen. And if I've shared this much with you,

how much more do you think I could share with another seven and a half

hours? I mean, did I really even talk about any cross references yet?

Nope? Wow, that's enough to blow my mind. That is absolutely

enough to blow my mind. So do you have anything further that you want

to add about those last two verses? Nope, no, Matthew, not

not right now. If you've got something something to add, go for it.

Well, for one, I like looking, I mean, we're already

talked about verse two and it's you. You've already pointed out some major complications

here, right right, but right here, because this chapter actually creates a

chiasm with chapter one twenty two and one twenty four, because those are those

are psalms of David, right right? Uh? Oh, this one isn't,

is it? No? So this is sandwiched in between two psalms of

David, just like Psalm one thirty two. Okay, I'm not lying.

You need to get something to write with and something to write on. Psalm

one thirty one is a psalm of David. Psalm one thirty three is a

psalm of David. So Psalm one twenty three and Psalm one thirty two.

See you just switch around. The numbers one twenty three and one thirty two

are sandwich between two psalms of David. So I begin to look here for

one integer. I don't need fifty integers, I just need one, and

that's the integer one thousand. How long are you going to do this?

How long are you going to sing this psalm in accordance with the other fourteen

chapters of this book of a sense as you go up to celebrate break the

feast of tabernacles during them one of your reign of Christ one thousand, right,

jose Amen, look into the Hebrew right there in the middle of that

verse, okay, verse two, and you're going to see staring back at

you. That's right, ladies and gentlemen, the alpha umerical integer one thousand.

Now, this is done using exactly seven words in Hebrew. So that

makes it pretty easy for people. Right, seven words here in a row

equal one thousand. You might look into it. It's pretty crazy to look

at. But waiting down all these things are important. For example, how

many verses are in this chapter? There's four verses here? How many is

in the other one that I talked about? How many is in the Psalms

one thirty two eighteen? Well, isn't that kind of strange? So this

one's awful short, and that one's offul long, because yes, that one

is the longest one. So there's all kinds of things I could have talked

about and never had a chance to. But you do need to know this.

We need to refresh everybody's memory. We need to refresh everybody's memory,

Okay, because this is serious. This is serious, this psalm of a

sense. You need to know this, that this is coming from the book

of Zachariah. Now we've read this before, letting you know when this is

going to happen. It's Zachari chapter fourteen. You need to get familiar with

it. You absolutely need to get familiar with it. Zacharaich chapter fourteen,

verses sixteen through nineteen. Then it will come about that any who are left

of all the nations that went up against Jerusalem will go up year to year

to worship the King, the Lord of Host and to celebrate the feast of

Boose. And it will be that whichever the families of the Earth does not

go up to Jerusalem to worship the King of the Lord of Host, there

will be no rent on them. If the family of Egypt does not go

up to enter, then no rain will fall on them. It will be

the plague which the Lord smites the nations that do not go up to celebrate

the feast of Boose. This will be the punishment of Egypt, and the

punishment of all the nations who do not go up to celebrate the feast of

Boost. Here, repeatedly in Hebrew, it uses the Hebrew word Ah fifty

nine to twenty seven a lot to ascend. That's where we get the Book

of a sense. It's used repeatedly here in these verses. Here in Zacharroid

chapter fourteen, this is real. It's going to happen, And at that

time you're going to know exactly what Psalms one twenty three means. You're not

going to play with it around the fringes and take, you know, pock

shots at what it might mean. You'll know exactly what it means. And

ladies and gentlemen, when you lift up your eyes, take no God,

the Father is going to be permanently residing in heaven, and you're also going

to have to look up because the Old Testament is replete in the prophecies.

In the prophet saying that where Jesus rule from is the only elevation on the

planet, it says the rest of the entire planet is a broad plane.

Correctjse Yes. Now, there's only one way this is going to happen,

and you and I talked about it many times. God's going to blow up

the earth like a bloom, and He's going to do that by putting the

seas back in their storehouses. Is this not exactly what he says? Yes,

it is, Matthew. I bet I've taken a lot of people by

surprising such a way they're shocked, ladies and gentlemen, I am not lying

to you. The Bible, God's Holy Word says that he will put the

waters back in the storehouses of the deep. Yes he does, Yes,

he does, Jose and I have did programs on it, correct Hose.

Yes, it's right there. Playing to the text Psalms one thirty three,

verse seven. Now now now listen, ladies. You know I'm not like

you. I don't believe what's going to happen in the future. I don't

believe what's going to happen in the future. I know what's gonna happen for

once in your life. I'm going to read this and stop treating this verse

like it's a little golden book book. I'm going to read to you an

entry into the Dictionary of the Lord Jesus Christ. This is right out of

his dictionary. He gathers the waters of the sea together as a heap.

He lays up the deeps in storehouses. What happens when when he does this?

I'm gonna read the very next verst to you. Let all the yearths

fear the Lord, Let all the inhabitants of the world scand and all of

him. That's exactly what you're going to do on that day, jose I

hope you've told your boys this. Amen, lady and gentlemen, I hope

you've taught your children this, and your grandchildren. Excuse if you haven't.

What have you done to them? What's going to happen when all the science

fiction fantasy that the clergy has shoved down their throats don't come true, Jose,

take us out of here in prayer. Please, dear heavenly Father,

whom we love and serve, once again and always, I give you thanks

and praise for gathering us together and forgiving us this palm of a scent.

Now for letting it show us what is to come, Father, and letting

it show us that it is a lamp to our feet and the light to

our path. Lord, I asked that what you've given us in the Gospel

of John, where you promise that your Holy Spirit would teach us, would

help us remember your words that you have given us. Lord, I asked

that you make that true by stirring the listener to open your word, to

read your word, to believe your word. For before we can remember it,

Lord, we must first know it. We must first read it,

learn it, share it, and teach it. And we know that in

doing so, Father, you have promised us that your Holy Spirit and your

Son will be there in the midst of us as an ecclesia as we do

this, Lord, and I ask that as we continue our studies, that

it the body that it reminds them of what you have asked us to do,

to love one another. And to love you, Father, and in

that way we will receive the promises that you have given us through your son.

And we ask all this in the name of your son, our Lord

and Savior, Jesus Christ. Amen, Amen and Amen. Until next time,

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