Sermon
Gospel Gangster
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Transcript
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I'm excited today because my good friend is here today as well.
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Kevin Wright, pastor, evangelist extraordinaire, is with us today.
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And let me tell you a little bit about him.
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Tasha and I always get together over the last several years about Appreciation
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Sunday. And she'll say, hey, who should we invite to come in and bring a word?
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And we'll go through names and we'll pray about it. and Kevin's name just came
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to the top this year to bring the word for Pastor Appreciation Sunday.
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I've known this man since 1998.
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We started Jerry Savelle's Bible School in 1998. We were young men at the time,
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very young and very wild, but in a good way, in a good way, wild.
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But we were on fire just for the Lord and connected with he and his wife,
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his virtuous woman of God. And we just connected over the years.
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And he moved to Texas after he graduated in 2000.
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He invited, oh, Florida. I'm sorry. We were in Texas. Thank you. Moved to Florida.
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He lived there. So he went back home and he's been in the ministry ever since.
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But before I even got going in ministry, Kevin used to invite me out to his
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youth group. He had a youth group of what? 300 youth? 600.
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600 youth. I mean, I had a video I was going to show. But, I mean,
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just he was impacted in that area where the youth were concerned.
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And he would invite me out, man,
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come share a word. And I wasn't really in full-time ministry at the time.
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And then when he started his church, he would say, hey, come share the word.
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And so we've been talking for decades now.
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And just every Sunday, you know, we would talk, how was service?
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And, you know, when you say how was service, we don't talk about how many people
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were in attendance or how much the offering was, because that's not how service was. Amen?
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We talk about what did the Lord do in that service, who was impacted,
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what stood out, and what went wrong.
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Things go wrong every Sunday. And we talk about that, too, and how to correct
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it. And so we've been to Thailand together, Singapore.
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You remember Singapore? Oh, yeah. I got to tell the Singapore story.
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Come on up here, matter of fact.
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Come on, welcome him. Give him a hand. Stand up. Stand up. Welcome Pastor Kevin to this platform.
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But let's tell the Singapore story. We got to tell this story. So you jump in, okay?
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So we were in Singapore. Beautiful country, by the way. If you ever have a chance
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to go to Singapore, make sure you go.
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And we were able to go out of town. You know, get out downtown.
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We were allowed to go. And so me, Kevin, a couple of other, Andy, who else was with us?
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Maybe I forget. Was Eddie with us? Maybe Eddie was with us. Okay.
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And so we jump in a taxi, and we're going to, you know, we're going to go downtown
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to Singapore and just see what the country holds.
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And so as we jump in the taxi, the taxi driver says, do y'all want little girl?
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We're like, what in the world?
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Do y'all want little girl or something like that, right? No,
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he said, do you want woman, husband, not home? That's what he said.
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That's what he said Do you want woman husband not home,
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Pastor Devon said Am I going to waste my anointing
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over that We all got out of that car fast
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We got out of that taxi pretty quick We were like what in the world But I remember
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you saying I ain't going to waste my anointing on this Oh that was a crazy time
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But no I'm not going to waste my anointing on some adultery and fornication.
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No, no, no. We got out of that car fast. We got out of that car pretty. We said, drop us off.
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Get us out of here. We didn't even have a congregation or anything.
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We were still doing the right thing. That's right. Amen.
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Yeah, we didn't have a congregation or anything at that point.
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Because Jerry Savelle would have put us in a headlock for sure.
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Yes. Yes. Dean Powers, too.
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John Powers would have got his good. And so do you remember the time,
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and then I'll let you preach the word.
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Do you remember the time we went out into, we were somewhere in Thailand.
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I don't even know where we were.
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And it was really, really cold. And I said, guys, shut the door so that we can,
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you know, get this cold air out of here.
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And you said, look up, Devon. And I looked up and there was no roof.
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We were in a hut that had no roof at all.
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But I'm talking about shut the door. And I looked up and I was like,
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so that night was a cold night.
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Yeah, it was a cold night. Have fun today, brother. I love you.
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Especially when them spiders start crawling around. Oh, yeah, I remember that.
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Have fun. Y'all give it up for Pastor Devon.
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Praise God. You may be seated. Well, I'm happy to be here. I'm happy to be here.
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Welcome everybody online, by the way. Let's give it a hand for everybody watching online.
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I'm happy to be here because...
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I love this guy. And he's one of my best friends. He's my brother.
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We kind of have similar style today, by the way, I noticed.
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I look a little bit better, but similar style, you know.
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But he became my best friend back at school, you know, because we laughed at
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the same stuff, you know.
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And church people can be pretty funny at times, you know.
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You ever look at church people? We're all funny.
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But we would laugh at the same stuff and we've just never stopped hanging out.
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He would come preach at the youth ministry and we both saw each other's journeys.
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And just to see his journey and my journey, how God cared about us and put us
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in places of ministry is just an honor that God trusts us.
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Isn't it an honor that God trusts us? It's a huge deal that God would trust
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us and especially trusting us to speak to people.
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And so I wanted to come here and share today and honor my friend.
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But I'm not coming as my word that I'm bringing is only going to build on the
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foundation that already exists.
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This is not a word of correction. I just see how your church honors you.
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And I've sat in that spot before as people would say words of affirmation over me as a pastor.
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And I'll tell you what, it's the greatest gift you can give a pastor.
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It really is. What do they want? What do they need? You did it today.
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It's beautiful. So we're going to talk about this topic today,
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honoring spiritual authority.
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And if you want to get your iPhone out and take notes, you can.
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But we're going to honor your pastors today, and I'm going to give words of affirmation.
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Today is about valuing the visionary of the house.
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And we're going to center up right here in 1 Thessalonians 5.
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I'm going to read it out of the message translation in chapter 5, verse 12 and 13.
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It says this, And now, friends, we ask you to honor those leaders who work so hard for you,
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who have been given the responsibility of urging and guiding you along in your obedience.
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Overwhelm them with appreciation and love
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and that's exactly what we're going to do we're going
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to overwhelm pastor devon and stacy with
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our love today somebody say amen if you're not here and you're watching online
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you can do it next time you come back to church next week if you miss and we
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can we can continue the honor the whole month amen so i think in my personal opinion as a pastor,
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you have to be a gospel gangsta to be a pastor.
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Now, I used to see Jerry Savelle, Brother Copeland, they come in,
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they just look so good and we would honor them, but we didn't know what it takes
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to be in ministry back then.
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We just, there was something glamorous about, I want that. And when you're young
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and immature in the Lord, you see what they have, and without even knowing,
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you're kind of like, I want that lifestyle.
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Not to say that we're not called to the ministry. We are immature at that time.
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I remember seeing Jerry Savelle come into town, and I was like,
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I want to be just like him.
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Just like I would, I want to play basketball like Michael Jordan. You know what I mean?
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But I realize you do have to be a gospel gangsta to be a pastor.
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I'm going to tell y'all some of my greatest hits. How many people want to hear
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some of my greatest hits as a pastor?
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My first week of youth ministry.
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I mean, I am called to the ministry. I'm standing up preaching to my 70, at that time 70 kids.
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The youth pastor before me went on and I got my first week.
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We had a great service, powerful service. God moved.
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And then all of a sudden, one of my staff leaders came up to me and said,
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Pastor Kevin, there's a young man out by the road that says he's going to commit
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suicide. He's going to jump in front of a car.
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This is my first week of youth ministry.
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So I run out. I say, hey man, it's okay.
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It's okay. And I'm starting to talk to him. And when he turned his back,
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I wrapped my arms around him to keep him from jumping in front of the car.
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And, you know, I don't know what I know now about MMA, you know,
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but back then I grabbed him. My head's right here.
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He elbows me and bust my eye wide open. This is the first week. So I got him.
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I slammed him to the ground.
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And when I slammed him to the ground, I landed on top of him,
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and he starts growling at me. This is my first week of youth ministry.
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He's growling at me. And I'm sitting there, and I said, oh, I need to cast the devil out of this guy.
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So I cast the devil out of him. And right then, he passes out.
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We throw him in the back of a pickup.
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He's in the back of the pickup. I'm in the back of the pickup to have my eye
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checked out. We both went to the hospital.
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You got to be a gospel gangster to be a pastor.
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Pastoring young people, they would write me death threats after I get done preaching
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because it got corrected during service. And then I became a lead pastor one
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day and said, yes, things are going to get easier.
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Then I realized adults, I found out adult Christians have the ability to gossip,
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betray you, slander you, backbite you, and lie straight to your face.
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And I realized that they took all those issues from teenage over to adulthood. Okay.
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Then, you know, the first month of having my church, a baby bites another baby
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and the baby's daddy that got, you know, the baby that got bit,
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he wants to fight me after church.
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You got to be a gospel gangsta to be.
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And then right when I started church in 2008, y'all remember 2008?
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It was a very difficult time financially for the whole United States of America.
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So I was going through bankruptcy.
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I was losing everything. The
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people that come, the repo guy came and got my Hummer. She was a woman.
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She came and got my Hummer and took it out of the driveway. by the way,
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I ran and jumped on the hood. No, I'm just joking.
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I did not. That's what most people do, isn't it? Like, they're not paying their
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bills and they jump on the hood.
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You ain't taking my car I ain't paying for.
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She calls me and says, listen, I know you're a pastor. Do you want to come out
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and get your stuff out of the Hummer? And here I am.
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This is the hardest time of my life. I'm embarrassed. I've let my family down.
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You look up the word failure in the dictionary, it says bankrupt.
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And here I am feeling like a failure I've got this church it's got 30,
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40 people in it and I'm getting paid I think I was getting paid 150 a week 100
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a week I mean it was tough times and working at the space center,
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and you know I went out there the woman gave me my stuff she goes can you pray
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for me I ended up praying for her leading her to Jesus as she drove off with
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my Hummer you got to be a gospel gangsta to be a pastor.
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And then one person you know in those early
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oh let me finish that after I'm going through bankruptcy one of my staff members
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finds out I'm going through bankruptcy she tells other staff members and they
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leave the church over it and kick me when I'm down hey I ain't got no bills now laughter.
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I didn't have any bills with the church. And I'm glad to tell you all these
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years later, I've paid for the last two vehicles, I've paid cash for. I made some changes.
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And I repented over borrowing all the time. How many people know pastors do need to repent?
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And I repented over that. And I got it right.
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And I started just trusting God and saying, well, we don't need that air conditioner.
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We just can't buy it with cash. Let's save up for it. And I started believing God for it.
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But they kicked me when I was down.
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You've got to be a gospel gangsta to be a pastor.
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And then you've got the funerals.
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Like, you know, pastors have the front row seat to so many hardships.
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Walking families through so many, you know, for me as a pastor, I have buried children,
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babies, grandparents, accidents, suicides, and all the things that come with being a pastor.
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The reason why I'm saying this is some people just don't know what a pastor
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is. And this is a Pastor Appreciation Sunday.
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They don't really know what it means to honor a pastor or have an understanding why we honor pastors.
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I remember one time I had a funeral I was doing and I was, what's it called, a processional?
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I was walking the family down and we were walking out and everybody's here and
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all of a sudden the wife behind me of the man who passed away said,
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Pastor, she needs to get off the front row. It was the ex-wife.
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I said, what's that? She goes, she's got to go. And we had to stop the line.
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Stop the line. So I come up here.
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I said, ma'am, the family would like you to move away. This is where they're
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sitting. She goes, I ain't moving.
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Ma'am, she's not moving. Oh, she's going to move or I'm going to move her.
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I need the wisdom of God right now.
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So I looked over here to the right. I told everybody on the front row and the
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second row, y'all need to move.
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And then I took this family and brought them over here on the front row while
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this woman sat by herself.
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I'm telling you right now, this is stuff that pastors go through.
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Then after they leave, they fight in my parking lot. This is Jerry Springer
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breaking out at my church.
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You got to be a gospel gangsta to be a pastor.
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Not counting the naysayers, the people that go off on you, the people that lie.
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You've got to be a gospel gangster.
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Can I talk about it?
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So I really believe understanding leads to appreciation. So I want to talk about what it means to honor.
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Honor means to esteem, to appreciate, to value, to prize, to be grateful.
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Honor is action where value and esteem is expressed toward your pastor or you add value.
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Like when a judge walks into a courtroom, they'll say, oh, rise for honorable judge.
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And then everybody rises, not because they like the judge, because it's his position.
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Or her position.
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Understanding, everybody say this after me, understanding leads to appreciation.
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You can't really respect who or what you don't understand.
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It's hard to appreciate. You know, one of the worst things that somebody used
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to come up and say to me, I know you're a pastor, but what do you do for work?
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How about I just smack you right now?
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I mean, people have these things
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that they think about pastors and they don't know behind the scenes.
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They don't know it. So in 1 Thessalonians 5 verse 12 says this,
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it says, And we beseech you, brethren, to know them which labor among you and
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are over you in the Lord and admonish you and esteem them very highly in love for their work's sake.
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And be at peace among yourselves. It says to know them and to esteem them.
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So what is a definition of a pastor? I want to give it to you.
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A definition of a pastor is a hand-picked person by Jesus Christ to the local
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church and to a specific group of people, believers.
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That's what a pastor is. He's a gospel gangster.
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He is. He's a gospel gangster. it.
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In Jeremiah 34, chapter 3, verse 14, I'm going to read in 15.
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I'm just going to read 15.
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And I will give you shepherds according to my heart who will feed you with knowledge and understanding.
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Notice that the word give, I will give you shepherds according to my heart who
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will feed you with knowledge and understanding.
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Ephesians 4, 11 says, and he himself, God gave some to be apostles,
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some prophets, some evangelists, some pastors and teachers. For what?
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Y'all know this, for the equipping of the saints, for the work of the ministry
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and the edifying of the body of Christ. Somebody say amen.
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Now, you know, you got a pastor, but you know, Pastor Devon is definitely 100% a teacher too.
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This man teaches. I always tell him when I listen, I get your text.
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I think I don't know who sends out y'all's text, emails. I get them all.
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I watch your TikToks. I see you preach. I see you preach on truth.
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I am one of your members from far away.
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I get the text. I get the emails. And I love all of it.
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And it's always edifying. I always tell Pastor Devon, I say,
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man, you're such a great teacher. You communicate so well.
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And he has favor on his life.
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I mean, who else? Gets to go to the UFC and prays with DC.
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And then goes and he's on television. This man's destined. Him and his wife
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are destined for greatness.
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That's for sure. I want to say this.
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Pastor Devon and Stacy was handpicked for this house. For this flock.
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Handpicked because he did the work before the work. When we were at Bible school. We didn't know.
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We have our books. I was looking at your book. And then I see my book.
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And we were in Bible college. We never thought we would be authors and pastors and leaders.
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We just wanted more of Jesus. But then the Lord promoted us.
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You know, you will never, write this down, you will never benefit or enjoy the
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gift of a pastor until you receive your pastor as a gift.
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I'll say it again. You will never benefit or enjoy the gift of a pastor because
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that's what pastors are. They're gifts to the body.
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Aren't you glad you got some gifts?
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You will never benefit or enjoy the gift of a pastor until you receive your
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pastor as a gift from God.
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Now, I've been in ministry 32 years.
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I've been pastoring. I don't know how long I've been pastoring.
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I've been pastoring a long time.
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I started pastoring young people at a very young age. I was preaching at 19.
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And so I've been in this for a while. And so I've been around to see the good,
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bad, and ugly just like you guys.
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And I know what it takes to be a pastor. And I think today, your greatest benefit
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as a believer is receiving your pastor as a gift from God.
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Here's what you need to say out loud. My pastors are gifts from God. Go ahead and say it.
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Our pastors are gifts from God.
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So how do you first receive pastors as a gift from God?
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Being a member of a local church is the first step of receiving your pastor
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as a gift from God. Now, I'm not talking about...
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I have seen... This is true. Because I said to be a pastor you've got to be a gospel gangster.
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Because I have had people join my church on a Sunday and the next Sunday join
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another church in the same community. Let me tell you something.
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I can tell you, I can't make this up.
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I have seen a lot over my years. That's why I'm showing my grade.
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I want my grade to show that, hey, this guy's been through some things.
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I had most of it, but now I'm like, oh, I've earned this, baby. I've got a 22-year-old.
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So, you know, there's a time when you become a member, you're saying,
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I don't want to date the church anymore. I want to put a ring on it.
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Amen? 1 Corinthians 12.18 says this, But now God has set the members of each
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of them in the body just as He pleads.
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God places pastors over local churches. There are destinies on local churches.
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Not all local churches are the same.
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You know, imagine local churches being like, let's say like trades.
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Let's just say this was an electrician church or a carpenter's church or a plumber's church.
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Each one of them has specific destinies.
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And you know, Pastor Devon and Stacey are fit for a specific assignment for this church.
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There's an anointing like I could not come in and no one else could come in
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and do it better than them.
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Because they fit this house.
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You fit this house. In this church, there's a call of God on the church.
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There's a call of God on individuals.
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In the local church, everybody has something that God has on your life.
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But I've learned this about local church.
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You will walk into your future calling, destiny.
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Most people receive their purpose inside the local church.
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I'm a member of a local church.
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Before I got into ministry, I was a member of a local church.
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I found my calling inside the local church.
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I found out that my destiny was connected to the local church.
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Not every one of you are going to be starting churches and things like,
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thank God, because I told you, You've got to be a Gospel Gangsta to be...
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This should be called Gospel Gangsta.
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Change that title.
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There is a God assignment. I got into youth ministry serving in the local church.
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And the first week of youth ministry, there was a youth pastor named Aaron Maynors.
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And he was the first one who taught me how to have youth church,
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not youth group. He said there's two kinds of youth groups.
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There's youth ministries, youth groups, and youth church.
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And he taught me the concept of youth church. And I said, in other words,
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you know, God grew through us.
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A youth ministry ended up being 600 youth. But I'll tell you what,
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I started out just serving in the youth ministry.
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And he would give me three minutes to share during the offering. I was the offering guy.
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And if I went over the three, he would do this.
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That's my first lessons is being under authority about time.
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He'd go like this. And then he'd correct me. He'd say, hey, I said three minutes.
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You got three minutes. From then on out, I'd get up there. Time,
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three minutes. Well, back then, there was no iPhone.
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It was like a watch. Three minutes. And right at three minutes, done.
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Right at three minutes, done. and those were my early lessons training,
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learning how to be under authority honoring my spiritual authority and it was
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the first week of youth ministry Aaron Maynard laid hands on me I had a hat
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on he went bam laid hands on me I hit the ground and something happened in my
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life those were the early days of ministry for me.
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And it wasn't until after J.S.M.I., Jerry Savelle's school, that I came back
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and I became a youth pastor, but it all started in the local church.
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You want to grow in ministry, you cannot have your own ministry if you can't
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be under someone else's ministry.
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You just can't do it. You can't be faithful with a lot until you've been faithful with a little.
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These are the things. Well, man, I thought for the longest time I would never
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be in ministry. I would never preach.
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I was never going to get opportunity.
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I used to, you know, we had tapes and CDs back then. How many people remember the tapes?
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And like right now, I still have tons of cassette tapes. I have a cassette tape player.
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And I still play it. The other day, it ate one of my tapes.
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Because I have a collection of all of Kenneth Hagin's tapes,
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that fits a whole entire, I am like, like if somebody broke in my house,
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the first place I would look and make sure they didn't get my tapes.
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And VCR tapes. I have a VCR. And I still play this stuff.
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I was listening to Norval Hayes the other day.
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Going back into archiving. Because when Brother Jerry passed away,
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there was something that said, man, I want to take, not his place,
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I want to take my place in the body.
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But it all started in the local church. Everybody say local church.
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It is super important to understand the role of the local church and understand
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the role of pastors. Somebody say amen.
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Everybody say I fit this church.
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Why is it important to join the church? Write this down. It gives your pastor
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spiritual jurisdiction to speak into your life.
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Like everybody needs someone that can speak into your life.
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And one thing I love about Pastor Devon, I told him last night we were watching
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Tennessee be Alabama, glory to Jesus. Oh, hallelujah.
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I heard you. I'm sorry. I ain't getting a ride home today. I ain't getting a ride home.
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And I looked at him and I said, you know what I love about you,
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man? Is he always tells the truth.
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Even if it hurts your feeling. I'll ask, what did you think about this with
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a smile on my face? I didn't like it.
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What do you mean you didn't like it? It's good. He says, I didn't like it,
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I want to tell you. I mean, he's just so truthful.
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But, you know, going to a church, submitting under spiritual authority gives
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your pastor spiritual jurisdiction to speak into your life. We should want correction.
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Hebrews 13, 17 says this, Obey your spiritual leaders. Submit to them. O Lord.
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Recognizing their authority over you. I know this is tough.
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I promise you guys, I have been corrected by pastors more than any pastor because I'm wild.
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Pastor Devon may correct me today.
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I've had my youth pastor at the time, I had his veins.
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He was so mad at me, his veins were popping out. because I started like a mud
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fight at a youth retreat.
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We knocked the fire exchanger off the wall and the whole place filled up with smoke.
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And it cost like three grand.
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We cost the church three grand.
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He wanted to kill me. My senior pastor, I drove him nuts.
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He said, Kevin, you can't have the kids eating worms. We did Fear Factor,
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a whole camp on Fear Factor.
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And at our camp i bought he i didn't tell him everything because i'd rather ask for forgiveness,
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so i bought brand new toilets should i say this it was ministry so i have to
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say we bought brand new toilets and in the toilets i filled them up with mountain
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dew and put candy bars and we had to bob for candy bars that's a true story
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y'all want to know how to reach kids i am i am the man,
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there was a reason why these kids came because they knew it was going to be crazy and we,
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and then for fear factor we had crickets and
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worms hey and then he says you're going to get sued man i said but pastor that
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was two i baptized 200 kids at that camp in the middle of all you better know
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the language of that generation you know so i i knew the language and i i don't
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know if I know the language anymore. LAUGHTER.
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Y'all know something? Y'all better tell me. For they are keeping watch over
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your souls as pastors and continually guarding your spiritual welfare as those
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who give an account of their stewardship of you. Notice that.
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They will give an account of their stewardship to you.
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Well, I need to correct my pastor. Oh, no, no, no.
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The Lord will correct your pastor. It doesn't mean you can't bring something to a pastor.
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But I'll tell you right now, before I even think about bringing something to
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a pastor. I have a process.
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I fast, I pray, and I usually never have to approach the pastor.
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Can I talk to you today? It says they will give an account to the Lord.
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So it says let them correct you and do everything.
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Let them do this with joy. I had people on my staff I would have dread just to talk to them.
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I would have to be a spirit of dread.
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Like I would be like, I don't want to talk to her. I don't want to talk to him
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because they are going to get you can't say nothing to them.
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That is not a mature thing.
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They ought to be able to do it with joy. Listen, I want to tell you something.
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This is not how we do this here.
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This is our flavor. This is our style. This is our culture. This fits us.
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And you know what you and I do? We say, Amen. That's now my culture.
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That's now of my style. That's now my flavor. Somebody say amen.
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You ain't going to like every song. I mean, think about the pastors.
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The music's too loud. The music's not too, it's not loud enough.
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I got so mad when I bought earplugs. I said, if it's too loud, earplug your ears.
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And I had earplugs on the table as you walked in. You can get them anytime. You fine?
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What are you going to do when we get to heaven and all that worship's going
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on? You're going to say, it's too loud. Jesus!
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So, 1 Thessalonians 5.13 says, and to esteem those who are over you very highly
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in love for their work's sake.
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So I'm going to give you seven primary responsibilities of a pastor.
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I'm doing good on time. What time do I need to end? and honestly.
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Two o'clock. Thank you.
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I'm landing. I'm landing here soon. It'll be my first landing.
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Responsibilities of a pastor. One, feed the flock. Somebody say feed the flock.
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Come on, say it again. Feed the flock. Feed the flock. You know,
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a pastor's going to feed the flock with knowledge and understanding and give
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instruction. They're the visionaries.
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They're going to speak to these areas of your life spiritually,
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mentally, financially, emotionally, and physically. Amen?
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Number two, responsibility. To serve as spiritual authority over the house.
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The lead pastor is where the vision flows down.
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He's the man of God of the house. The visionary. Aren't you glad for the visionary?
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Number three, see to it that things get done and not personally do them all.
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Somebody say amen.
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No pastor can do everything and be everywhere.
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There was a time at my church, I was the AC guy, I vacuumed the church,
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I've done everything now that I asked everybody else to do.
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And I guarantee you this man of God has too. He's not asking you to do anything
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that he hasn't done himself already.
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It's not like pastors are too good to do stuff, It's just we need to equip them
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to do what they're called to do.
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They don't need to be doing everything else. Amen.
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I got so frustrated one time. I said, I'm just going to throw the ball up.
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If no one catches, I'm walking away from the ball.
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And one time, people needed help in the children's ministry.
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I just went back there and started helping.
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On a Sunday. Amen.
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And then somebody said, Pastor, you've got to get back out there. I said, no, no, no.
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There's help. No, you've got to get back out there. And then I went back out
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there and said, listen, I was going to do that all day.
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Nobody gets to preach if we don't have help. Somebody say amen.
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Not going to meddle too much today.
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Pastors are called to pour their life into leaders. Aren't you glad He pours
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His life, their lives into you?
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Number six, pray for the flock.
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And number seven, love the flock.
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Amen. And I'm going to end with this. Ten ways to honor your pastors.
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Ten ways to honor your pastors. And you're going to have a hard time keeping
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up writing down, so you have to go back and write it down.
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Or Facebook me and I'll get you the message. Alright? The notes.
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Why am I talking about ten ways to honor your pastors? Because when it comes
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to church, sometimes we think serving, that's enough.
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I want to take it a step further. I think serving where they need you is enough.
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Oh, I'm just going to serve. Well, serving is great, but it'd be like,
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you know, I serve my wife.
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I don't serve her and do things for her that she looks at me and is like,
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I don't even really need you to do that.
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I serve Terry where Terry needs to be served.
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That's what I bring to the game. She brings that back to me.
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So I want to share with you about how to serve and honor your pastors on this
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Pastor Appreciation Sunday.
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Number one, you honor your pastors when you consistently position yourself to
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hear what God has given them.
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Your physical presence at church, I promise you, is a huge blessing to your pastor.
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They only get to see you once a week most of the time, unless there's events later on.
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But it is a huge blessing when they see your face sitting in the church,
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receiving what God has given.
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You know, it would be no different if I invited y'all over for a meal and I
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made this big meal and no one showed up for it.
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He cooks this meal up for you guys. And I'll tell you, one way to honor your
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pastor is show up and eat. Somebody say amen.
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Two, you honor your pastor when you honor his spouse and his children.
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You can't honor Pastor Devon and not honor Stacey.
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This, y'all want me to say it again? I will. You can't honor Pastor Devon and not honor Stacey.
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There is no such thing. I don't know. Let me tell you, these ladies get attacked. Listen.
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My wife, she was wowed, just like me.
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She got into ministry, went to Jerriesville School, but she's very much going
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to be herself whether you like it or not.
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I've never seen more people so viciously attack my wife in the church. She's got some tattoos.
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That rebellious woman, I tell you.
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She preached for me on my Facebook Live today. And I'm just joking about that.
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But the church, they judge very harshly.
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This woman is a woman of God. She walked away from her wild lifestyle,
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but she gets judged pretty harshly.
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She wasn't going to dress like everybody else. And I had to determine whether
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or not, how are we going to do this?
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She wasn't going to dress provocatively, but she was going to dress her style.
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But she wasn't going to be the style of what people think what they thought she should be,
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and so when I would find out that somebody wasn't honoring my wife now you're dishonoring me,
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like that's my woman she's mine you don't honor her you don't honor me,
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we don't talk bad about the family because let me tell you this I'm going to
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say to everyone watching everybody that will watch,
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what happens in this church toward this family will determine if their kids
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even want to be in church when they become adults,
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this is the whole setup their children are watching people are watching they
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know, listen, my daughter saw,
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like they my daughter was judged because when you know, when your kids start
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growing up, they make decisions when Faith became an adult, she didn't act like church folk.
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But she's mine. That's my daughter.
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I'm going to love that girl. Even if she's not putting Jesus first.
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And you should have heard.
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Let me tell you. I'm going to tell y'all something. If you don't like this dysfunctional
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church go find you another dysfunctional church.
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Because I'm going to tell y'all right now y'all looking real holy today but
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there's a lot of dysfunction up in this house.
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We just bring all that dysfunction together. We're one big dysfunctional family.
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It's not a bad confession.
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Because dysfunction means not everything's functioning to perfection.
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And I guarantee you right now, you have your days where you say things you shouldn't say.
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And you act like a heathen. And then you come into the church.
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Hallelujah. Glory to Jesus.
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Does it need binding? Let's bind it. But right before then, cussing somebody out in traffic.
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What happens in church to their family is to set up what's going to happen to
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their children later on, how they're going to view the local church.
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Faith at times, she wants to be back in the local church, but she saw how people
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treated her, how they judged her, and what we're doing is we're setting people up for pain.
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Come on now. Because now that when your kids become adults, they make decisions as adults.
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You don't make their decisions anymore.
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There's no more leverage. You can't take their phone away from them.
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You know what I mean? They're now at a place. That's why it's important.
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It's a major topic right here. This is how we honor them. We honor their family. We pray for their kids.
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I love your confessions over your pastors. I can hear you guys.
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Are well above what most churches are, how they are when it comes to honoring their pastor.
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Y'all are very honorable towards your pastors.
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And I'm proud of you.
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I wish I had some of y'all at my church back in the day.
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And I want to say to anybody that used to go to my church, there are some that
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still honor me to this day. There's a woman named Bernadette, Mama Bernadette.
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She came over as pastor appreciation study. I don't have a church building anymore.
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I'm an evangelist with a pastor's heart, but I still pastor my partner's.
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She brought over a card for Terry and I with $50 in it.
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Man, I felt like, wow, I miss the days of getting in front of people.
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That's why I get so excited standing in front of y'all.
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Not many, you know, pastors have invited me to come preach. And I feel like,
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you know, I got something.
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But if I ain't got no churches, I'm hitting highways and hedges.
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I don't need no local church. I got highways and hedges. Amen.
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Number four, you honor your pastor when you submit to his delegated authority
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and trust their judgment.
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Oh, this is a hard one. Can I talk just real quick? I remember when I was pastoring,
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I had two best friends on my staff, both pastors.
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One was my associate pastor, a new team leader comes on because as you grow,
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you've got to get more pastors.
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And the ones that have been there the longest time, they get a little, who's this person?
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And so I told my friend, Pastor Tim Lumpkin, one of my bestest of friends,
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a man of God, I told Pastor Tim, hey, I'm going to put you in a different area.
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And I think this pastor will do a, I think he has a more gift at doing this
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area of ministry than you and I'll put you in where I think your gift's going
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to work best. That was humbling for Pastor Tim.
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Pastor Tim said to me, okay, I'll do it.
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Put my new guy in. He did horrible.
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He did horrible in that area. And I'll tell you what, Pastor Tim Lumpkin,
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He immediately, I put him back in that spot, put my other friend in another
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area. This is what I'm talking about. If you're going to honor your pastor.
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We have to submit to their delegated authority, even if we don't like the delegated authority.
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You ain't going to like every person you serve with.
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But you've got to love them. I mean, you don't like everybody.
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There are some people... Listen, Sister Susie at this church has another sister,
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Sister Sandpaper, at the next church.
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And Sister Susie rubbed you the
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wrong way. Don't worry, you go to the next church. Her sister goes there.
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You can't get away from this stuff. This is church.
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You honor your pastor when you pray for him regularly. Their family, their kids.
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How many people know the devil can't get the pastor when he goes after Stacy and the children?
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The devil says, I'm going to get your kids. Y'all lift them kids up.
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So y'all know Satan's trying to get the church. He goes after,
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he smite the shepherd and the sheep will scatter.
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And number six, you honor your pastor when you engage in biblical confrontation
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rather than divisive criticism.
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Be able to receive confrontation without them being afraid you're going to leave
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the church because they corrected you. No pastor should feel that way.
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We can handle this. Everybody say, we can handle it.
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See, Stacey walked out right when I said that. I already knew she was leaving.
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I love you. She's got to get to the house and we got people coming over, don't we?
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So, seven. When you have biblical expectations, not personal.
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Pastor can't meet with everybody, but I guarantee he does a really good job trying.
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There are some meetings God may not tell pastor to meet with that person on.
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There may be people who wants to meet with him and God don't tell him to meet with them.
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Listen, you've got to submit to that.
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Amen. There are some people I wasn't going to waste my time on. I had hate mail.
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This month I had hate mail delivered to me. And they sent voicemails.
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They record and sinned and I hit it and they were going off shit. This person.
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I'm not even having a church. You know what? The beginning of the conversation
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said, y'all want to know what they said?
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Y'all want some tea? Y'all want me to spill the tea? I'll spill you some tea.
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They said, you're not as good as preacher as you used to be online. You're just not as good.
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I said, why? I was thinking, wow, I've got over 2,000 views a week.
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I'm pastoring a bigger church now than I ever have.
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And then they started going off on, guess who? Terry.
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And so I stopped. I said, I don't have to listen to this person. I shot him.
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And then they said, guess what? They said, you abandoned your church.
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That's when I stopped. Because during COVID is when we sold our building because
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I wasn't doing good mentally and we weren't doing good as a church.
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And I had to basically walk away from that to pastor myself.
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To be able to get back in front of you again. Because y'all know to be a pastor,
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you've got to be a gospel gangster.
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Somebody say amen. You can't have
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expectations on your pastor and expect they're going to do this or that.
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They're going to do what the Lord tells them. Somebody say amen.
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Number eight, when you allow your pastor to grow and make mistakes,
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they're going to make some mistakes like I made that mistake of shifting someone
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where I shouldn't shift them.
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I'm not perfect. He is not perfect.
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He is not perfect. And number nine.
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When you stand with them in difficult times. This is how you honor your pastors.
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When they go through stuff.
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Somebody say amen. They're going to go through some stuff. This man right here
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has been through some stuff.
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Having a church, you go through some stuff.
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And number ten, when you support your pastor and family financially.
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The hardest task for me as a pastor, while I was pastoring, I was working another
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job because we didn't have enough
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money coming in for me to pastor and dedicate my whole life into it.
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Even though I was already dedicating my whole life into it.
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But then going to work and doing that, that is not the will of God for pastors.
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Pastors that do that, that is not the will of God. The will of God is congregations,
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members, take care of their pastor.
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And I'm not always just talking about tithes and offerings. I'm talking about
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come up and slip a Benjamin in his pocket.
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Amen! I'll tell you, the most valuable thing you gave him was words of affirmation
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today. I promise you that.
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I know my friend, that was the greatest thing you can ever give a pastor.
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But every once in a while, $5, $3.
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Or take a little bucket and put pastor's bonus. And every time you get a dollar,
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put it in there until it gets to $100. And then you go and you give it to him.
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See, that kind of stuff honors your spiritual authority in the house.
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I'll end with these Scriptures.
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We get ready to close. Play something churchy.
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I'm not receiving an offering. It don't have to be low. Low on Jesus.
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Play something churchy. Play something churchy.
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What is your name? Curtis?
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Did I say it wrong?
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Oh, Kurt. Oh, I want to tell you about Kurt Franklin.
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I forgot one of my biggest hits as a pastor.
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We were approaching Sunday.
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Oh, he's building it good. We're approaching Sunday and my whole worship team
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quits my team and goes to play at another church.
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I had to play the worship behind me. And I told my wife, I'm just going to be Kirk Franklin.
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You know, Kirk, you never hear him sing. He's a hype guy. He's like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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And I got up. I played the music. That was Kirk Franklin.
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That was my final hit.
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I didn't even want to be in ministry after that day.
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1 Timothy 5.17 says this. And remember, none of this is correction.
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Because I believe this church is a beautiful, I just saw you guys in action today. Beautiful.
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1 Timothy 5.17 Amplified Bible says, the elders who perform their leadership
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duties well are to be considered worthy of double honor, financial support,
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Amplified Version says, financial support, especially those who work hard at
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preaching and teaching the Word of God concerning eternal salvation through
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Christ Jesus. Say this after me.
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Pastors should be paid. Pastors should be paid.
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Real good.
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You want them abundantly blessed because that's where you're heading.
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Because it comes from the top.
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I lost somebody back at my home church. They would say, they would be mad.
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I mean, I'm in the right house, man. This is easy. My church,
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I would have been plowing, boy, through religion and poverty mindset.
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This house is like, yes!
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Romans 15, 27. They were pleased to do it, and they are indebted to them.
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For if the Gentiles have come to share in their spiritual things,
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then they are indebted to serve them also intangible material things.
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Amen. Galatians 6.6 The one who is taught the Word of God is to share all good
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things with his teacher, contributing to his spiritual and material support.
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Somebody say amen. Amen. gifts are
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voluntary when it comes to supporting your pastor not out of uh force or pressure
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voluntarily out of your kindness of your heart these are things we do any church
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that does not honor their pastor will never ever grow.
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Music.