097 Fellowship: What are demons?

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Draweth Nigh. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome to the program. I'm

your host Matthew. Tonight, we're doing a fellowship and we're going to start

out the fellowship with some questions that Jennifer has concerning a situation that is going

on in her church. So, Jenny, come on and what's the questions

that are arising at your church? Hi? Everybody. Essentially I'm boiling it

down, but we're trying to clarify in regards to demons. They obviously are

the remnant of I have always assumed they were the remnant leftover from the giants,

and we were looking for clarity on whether they were these whether these demons

were the spirits of these giants, or what exactly they are, if that

makes any sense. If they were spirits that like we we each have,

Like you said, Matthew, Soma, Psyche and Numa, is that how

they were built the same way? Or you know, what's their build what's

their makeup? What is this demon that's leftover? Does that make sense?

Yes, it makes sense. So the first thing we need to look at

is you are saying that these demons. Now you're saying this by assumption.

You're saying that these demons have spirits, and that they have spirits because of

the joining of the angelic race and the human race. Correct, Yes,

I guess that was what I had presumed. Okay, Well, the Bible

tells us emphatically that they send against all flesh. Genesis comes right out and

says this, that all flesh was corrupted, all flesh was corrupted. So

you have to realize that this crosses another bridge. This means that they also

send against the animals. Now, this takes you into a different field.

So let me ask you this, So, do animals have spirits? I

cannot provide a lot of clarity on that, but I really think there is

a lot of data about it biblically that I have not studied, just just

due to the nature of not ever being a huge press for me to know

that. Well, let's do this. Let's pause for a minute. Let's

go back through the event in question. So you're stating that somewhere in the

Bible that these giants are talked about. Where is that at Well, the

specific chapter that we had been referencing was Genesis six, but obviously we know

that giants are mentioned a multitude of times throughout the Old Testament. All right,

all right, do you have that scripture available in the new in the

new King James version. I do not have a new King James Bible.

Okay, Well, everybody, just so you know, this ministry has officially

switched over to the New King James version. Why because it holds to the

Adiddo Regia manuscript. What's that? Many of you years too, if you're

a novus in studying the Bible, you think that the Greek manuscript is the

Texas Receptist. No, the Texas Receptist is a category of manuscripts. The

manuscript that was certified by the entire planet, all preachers, all Christians,

all clergy at the time, all ratified the Adido Regia manuscript. What's that?

That is? This? That is the stuff honest New Testament from fifteen

fifty. How can I approve that? Unequivocably with you right now? In

a court of law, we could prove this is the case, because your

Bible, no matter which Bible you have, have the chapters and verses that

came from Stephanis's Aditto Regia. The New King James version holds to that save

a single instance. That's Luke, chapter seventeen, verse thirty six. Why

is it in there and it shouldn't be. You need to take a pencil

and after you've bought a New King James version, mark out that verse Luke

seventeen thirty six. It's not there. That was added by the publisher because

in the fifteen fifty four fourth edition of the Addo Regia, Stephanis put that

in a footnote. He did not put it in the text. He put

it in a footnote. So the translators included it in the actual Adido Regia,

which are in the actual New King James version, which it should have

not have been. So that being the case, we're just going to whip

on over to Genesis chapter six and my brand spanking new Walmart New King James

version, they have them there. I've looked at three Walmart's in three different

cities, and they all had this exact Bible in my hand for seventeen dollars.

I also got the super giant print, which was twenty four dollars,

so anyway, very cheap you need to get one. We'll start from the

top because what I mentioned is here. It's just that everybody likes to stick

to those first top verses. They never get to verse twelve, they never

get that far. So now game coapass. When men began to multiply on

the face of the earth, and daughters were born to them, that the

sons of God. God saw the daughters of men, that they were beautiful,

and they took wives for themselves, all of whom they choose. And

the Lord said, my spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he

is indeed flesh. Yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years.

There were giants on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when

the sons of God came into the daughters of men and they bore children to

them, those were the mighty men who were of old, the men of

renown. Then the Lord saw that the wickedness of man was great in the

earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil

continually, And the Lord was sorry that he had made man on the earth

and he was grieved in his heart. So the Lord said, I will

destroy man whom I have made. I'm sorry whom I have created from the

face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing, and birds

of the air. For I am sorry that I've made them. But Noah

found grace in the eyes of the Lord. Now this is the genealogy of

Noah. Noah was a just man, perfect in his generations. Noah walked

with God, and Noah begat three sons, Shamham and Jacob. The earth

was also corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence, so

that God looked upon the earth, indeed it was corerupt. Indeed it was

corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted their way on the earth period at the

end of that sentence, So first and foremost, this tells us that yes,

their first sin was against man. These but neha Alahim and the Hebrew

make no mistakes, that's angels. Every time this phrase is used, and

the Bible is directly linked to angels. That can be no one else.

They first corrupted the angels. But as you could see, by the time

God decided to make this judgment, that was very clear. The entire Earth

had been twisted by the full So you're absolutely correct in saying that, yes,

they came, they began with humans, and it created mythology. And

the Bible just came out and told you, whether you're like it or not,

the mythologies on this planet are real. I mean, we all know

from Greek mythology to tell about Hercules, correct, Jennifer, That's exactly what

Hercules was. That's what he was. It just said that. This text

called him a giant, he was a man of renown. He was literally

pass son of God and half daughter of man. That's what he was.

This clearly just said that. There's no debating that. That's what it said.

This is why and other scriptures it literally comes out and dead bags this.

I mean, look at the said Kouage it. It'll tell you in

more than one place, comes right out and tells you they were satyrs.

What is a satyr? Jennifer, do you know what to be goat half

gosh man, half goat half man? Right, No, no it's not

no, it's half goat half angel. Oh yeah yeah, okay, I

was thinking of them. What the body looked like? Okay, yes,

yes, the body is what you would think looks like a man, but

it's not. It's an angel. So this is where we really have to

go to bat with ourselves. This is why you have these strange instances of

the New Testament that someone will get possessed by a demon and this demon will

try to throw them in the fire or try to throw them in water,

and they can't speak. And of course this created a real conundrum with the

apostles because they're like, you know, we can't throw this thing out.

Why not? It doesn't understand what we're saying, because it was never I

mean, let's talk about a goat. Is a goat going to understand your

commands to it? Let's talk more importantly, let's talk about a fish.

Let's really talk about a fish. And we can go back to mythology to

Dagon. Right, you know that Dagon is in the Bible, Right,

Dagon was worshiped by those countries along the coast of the Mediterranean Sea. Let's

talk about that. So if an angel had corrupted the kingdom of fish,

did it even have vocal cords? Jennifer, No, I would not.

Okay, tell me something of maximum importance. Okay, maximum importance, and

a cat per Yes, okay, and a lion, per I don't honestly

know, but I would assume yes, No, they can't. No,

they can't. Okay, they do not have those special cords in their vocal

courts. Okay, so let's talk about a fish. Does a fish have

any vocal cords, not that I'm aware of? None? Why? Because

they do not breathe air? Correct? Right now? We all know that

corpuses they got vocal cords, right, I don't know. Yes, you

know that they can squeal. They can Okay, this is why they can

be trained. Okay, because they they don't, you know, need gills.

They actually breathe, they have blowholes, right, they actually have vocal

cords. But fish do not. Fish have fins, They have no vocal

cords. So how would a fish, ever, how would it ever have

the capacity for a verbal language? Okay, more importantly, and a fish

here, you and I don't think so? I mean I don't know how,

Yeah, I don't think so. No vibrations, I mean I don't

know anyway. Do they have ear drums? No? No, so they

can't hear. Okay, you are correct. Being an aquatic animal, there

scales are most tuned to very particular vibrations and very very slight vibrations in the

water. However, they do not have ear drums. Okay, So if

you're dealing with the spirit, that's half angelic, which had no body.

Right now, that's not to say that an angel does not have intelligence,

but an angel does not have a body ascribed to it. The Bible says,

most particularly that they are flames of fire. And let me ask you

that. So, Jennifer, has the physicists, have the scientists figure out

what a flame is? Yet? Do they have all that math worked out?

I don't have any friends that are physicists, but I'm going to assume

since you're asking that they don't. No, they don't, okay, because

what is a flame? It's not an element, it's a chemical reaction.

Now, but the problem is that even with an alcohol fire, you can't

see it. Right. A flame defies gravity? What else defies gravity?

Come on? Now? Does a gas? Does it have to adhere to

the laws of gravity? Hydrogen and helium, Yes, they have to.

They have to obey the laws of gravity, right, A flame does not.

Okay, So that puts you into another realm. Does nothing? When

you realize that an angel the Bible says is a flame of fire, so

seees how physicists can't really tell you what a fire is. They can only

tell you that fire is independent that everything else. That's all they can do.

That's all they can do. The only thing they can tell you is

that it's not a solid, it's not a gas. You see solids and

gases and liquids. They must obey the little gravity. It is the flame

and the flame alone that does not it doesn't have weight. Does it riddle

me this? How dense is a flame? Jennifer, I'm feeling like a

real failure at science here right now. No, you don't have to fail.

Your feel like a failure. It's just you're not expecting me to ask

these questions because you needed the answers as to where giants come from, and

your mind was targeting a specific thing, and that was okay, It was

okay. But we have to lay groundwork here, and we have to prove

why the Bible says what it says. And it's just not the daughters of

man that they corrupted. That passes of scripture clearly says all flesh was corrupted.

So we need to figure out what these spirits are We get very quickly

that these numas are half human and humans have spirits, right, right,

So that makes things that's a starting point. Now the next thing we need

to do. Do animals have spirits? Let me just ask you that where's

the chapter and verse that says animals have spirits? Like I said, I

don't. I have not studied on this topic, so I cannot elaborate on

it at all. Okay, well, that's a good thing for you that

I don't know too much on the Bible that I can't elaborate on. So

let me just whip over a real quick I'm sorry everybody I know get through

cumbersome when you have a paper Bible. But anyway, Ecclesiastes, chapter three,

and of course verse twenty one, it's very clear and people, actually

we've talked about this before, I believe. Anyway, let's start in let's

see verse nineteen, or maybe verse eighteen. Yeah, let's start in verse

eighteen. I said, in my heart concerning the condition of the sons of

men, God tests them that they may see that they themselves are like animals.

What I'm pretty sure God just insulted us. Anyway, Verse nineteen for

what happens to the sons of men? Now, take no, ladies and

gentlemen, you're supposed to be familiar with the Bible, God's Holy Word.

Why does he keep using that phraseology is coming straight from the from Genesis chapter

six, right, I kept saying the doctors of men? Right, So

just you need to latch onto that. What happens to the sons of men

also happens to the animals. One thing befalls them. As one dies,

so dies the other. Surely they all have one breath, high ass Greek

numa. Man has no advantage over the animals, for all his vanity,

all go one place, all are from dust and return to dust. Who

knows that the spirit of the sons of men which goes upward, and the

spirit of an animal which goes down to the earth. I'm sorry, did

nobody ever read Ecclesiastes? I mean, I could keep going here and it

says a whole lot of other stuff. But anyway, yeah, yeah,

the Lord, the Lord is probably pushing me a little too hard Verse twenty

two. So I have perceived that nothing is better than that a man should

rejoice in his own works, and that in his heritage. For who can

bring him to see what will happen after him. You see this stanza here,

verses eighteen through twenty two of ECCLESIASIDS. Chapter three is pure prophecy built

upon Gen. Six. So we've laid the foundation that you've spoken incorrectly,

Jennifer. I appreciate that you put in I appreciate that you put in there

with giants, but you you're immediately forgetting more than half of that stanza in

Gen six, it's twelve verses long, not four. So these spirits spirits

are angelic in origin. They're angelic spirits that was produced by the sons of

men and also everything on this planet. This is where Greek mythology gets Kaimeris

from. Is the verses I just read to you. That's where they come

from. So this is where you get. Of course, in the epilogent

literally comes right out and says in one verse, oh, no, cenataurs,

what's that? It's half donkey, half angel, not half man.

I know you've been taught, and I know what the entertainment industry has done

to you, Okay, I know that the Percy Jackson series is real big

right. Also a clash of the Titans is real big right, But no,

those creatures that you see that are half animal and half what you think

is human, it's not. They're half angel. That's what the Bible is

saying. So obviously the Bible is saying that, yes, yes, spirit,

animals do have spirits. So that's what's being produced here. So now

we need to take a deep breath here and say, okay, so how

can we prove right, how can we prove that that's what we're dealing with

here? And by the way, yes, if you look in a subcu

agent, yes, if you look in the Hebrew there inclus yes, these

chapter three, Yes, it's numa in Greek, just so you know.

And yes, the accompanying counter word in Hebrew is used in those texts.

So yes, animals, yes they do, they have spirits. So let's

jump over to Matthew chapter eight and verse six. Me. Sorry, ladies

and gentlemen, Matthew, Hey, that's what I was named after. Amen

huge chapter eight and verse six, for I remember let's see here, oh

maybe after it further down sixteen yeah, sixteen, Sorry, I was remembering

six's after sixteen when evening had come, they brought to him many who were

demon possessed, and he cast out the spirits yet in Greek that's numa with

a word, and healed all who were sick that it might be fulfilled,

which is spoken by Isaiah the prophet saying he himself took our infirmities and bore

our sickness. So, yes, these things are spirits, they're numas,

and those numas are produced by both people and animals of every varying text.

It's just very important that remember that Genesis chapter six. You have to read

the entire stanza. It's twelve verses, and at the end of that stanza

it says very carefully, the end of that stanza, it's very clear that

everything was corrupted. Let's see here verse twelve. So God looked upon the

earth, and indeed it was corrupt, for all flesh had corrupted their way

on the earth. So it starts out with people and it goes on until

this abomination. I defiled every single species on this planet. So does that

answer your question, Jennifer? Are there any questions other? Yes? That

was thank you. So why is this coming up in your church? They're

just generally talking about it. This is a normal lesson that they're doing or

this is a special instance or situation. They've started talking about this now for

a little bit, so it's an ongoing for No. I don't know,

maybe four or five months now. So I was just trying to be as

beneficial and helping with that the teaching or the understandings as they could be.

So that's that's where we were at right now. Okay, all right,

Well, that solid grand to stand on if you want to go further than

that. The majority of this information is taken by that book that is quoted

in the New Testament, the Book of Enoch, which Aaron my Son has

translated and keyed to strongs. So you can actually take a look at that

line up the Greek words that I just gave you and find them right there

in the Book of Enoch because he has keyed the Arkman fragments two strongs.

So, uh, Sherry, what's your thoughts on this topic? Because you

said that you know you was curious about this topic too, So what's your

thought. Had anybody laid that down for you that the Bible emphatically says that,

yes, yes, the animals have spirits. Let's talk about that part.

No. I thought it was interesting, of course, immediately when I'm

hearing about the angel fish thing, and I'm thinking, oh, yeah,

Merman, so that's where all this stuff comes from, you know what I

mean. Oh, I had not heard a lot of this before, and

I was I was glad we were talking about this because I learned a lot.

I mean, I'd always thought that I understood DENNISIX six and I and

I did only part of it. So this was good, good, good

new. You know, this is a pretty fringe topic, right, and

a lot of churches do not talk about it. That's that's for sure.

You know. Let's let's go ahead and read this instance from Matthew chapter seventeen.

Let me grab my Bible brand speaking new. I don't have any marks

in it at all. I've not outlined anything in it. I can't wait

to start back from zero for okay. Matthew chapter seventeen, verse fourteen.

When they had come to the multitude, a man came to him, kneeling

down to him and saying, Lord, have mercy on my son, for

he is an epileptic and suffers severely, for he often falls into the fire

and often into the water. So I brought him to your disciples. But

they could not cure him. Then Jesus had answered it said, oh,

faithless and perverse generation, how long shall I be with you? How long

shall I bear with you? Bring him here to me? And Jesus rebuked

the demon, and it came out of him, and the child was cured.

From that very hour, when the disciples came to Jesus privately and said,

why could we not cast it out? So Jesus said to them,

because of your unbelief. For assuredly I say to you, and if you

have the faith of a mustard seed, and say to this mountain, move

from here to there, it will move, and nothing will be impossible for

you. However, this kind does not come out except by prayer and fasting.

And I already explain to you why. And take note, because this

demonac had not said anything crazy. This Greek here is very clear. The

dad did not know he was possessed. Did he sharey? Apparently not,

he said he told I. Imagine walking up to God the son and saying,

hey, my son is an epileptic. He's he's sick, come healing.

And Jesus must have been thinking, no, no, he's not sick.

Ladies and gentlemen, This boy's not sick, he's possessed by an unclean

spirit that does not have the ability to communicate vocally. Let's just use one

from Greek mythology, right, So, Erry, you know a little bit

about Greek mythology, right, what's the kraken? What is that? Actually?

I'm not very well versed in that. Probably Jamie could answer that more

than me. Okay, Jamie, what's a kraken? A giant seabeast ocopus

type? It has been it's bingos, thank you, Jamie. Yeah,

So what would happen if an angel erupted an octopus? What would happen?

Okay? It would just rage without any kind of reason. It couldn't reason

with it. That's right. It would rage without reason. Jamie put that

perfectly. It would rage without reason. That's exactly what this boy was doing.

He was raging without reason. So they have to use the serpent in

the garden. I mean, they use what they got to use, right,

Yes, they use what they have to use exactly. So take note,

ladies and gentlemen, that this is why Jesus gave authority to the spirits.

Right, he had already an authority to them, and they should have

been able to cast this out. But Jesus most symphatically says, however,

this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting, because you have

to ask. You have to pray for God to intervene. Because this thing

can't understand you. What makes you think it could under Let me say it

again. Does an octopus have vocal cords, ladies and gentlemen. Does it

have an ear drum? Look, it has no conceptual way to understand you,

rebuking it in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. It's body.

Its body never had an ear drum. So if it has taken possession of

a person, and this person has ear drums, it is relaying information from

the soma. That's the Greek word for body. Remember the brain, that's

an organ. The ear drum, that's an organ. This entity, this

numa, it has a psyche, and its psyche is not compatible with the

human brain. It's not compatible. It's not just that it's not the right

size, ladies and gentlemen. The neurons in the brain of an octopus is

not polarized correctly. They're not set up correctly to interpret human thought. You

can yell and scream at an entity that is half angelic and half octopus,

and it's not going to do you any good. Going to have to send

up the request Jacob's latter. This is the whole reason why the New Testament

loudly states that Jacob's Latter is now placed upon the shoulders of the Lord Jesus

Christ, and now they have to ascend and descend via that conduit, via

that authority, which is above all authorities. So you have to send a

request up Jacob's ladder. God has to reply and send down that request via

Jacob's latter. And that's how the problem's dealt with, because commanding it is

not going to do you any good. It never had that capacity. Now

there are many animals that do have these capacities. Take notes. Let me

talk to Jinny again. So, Jenny, how effective is the species German

shepherd on this planet? How successful is that breed of dog successful? In

what way? That's what I'm asking you. If it is successful, how

is it successful? I'd never had one. I would assume they're very good

at multitude of things. I think my dad may have had one when he

was in the army as a dog that he took out to like sniff out

for looking for things hidden in the ground. Okay, that's a good that's

a good way. That's a good way to breed up. So what other

type of breed is used by the military. I'll tell you none. When

it comes to the United States military, they just get German shepherds. Have

you ever seen a poodle in use by the United States Army? I have

not. You have not, nor will you. Let's talk about the police.

Okay, so what dog of breed does the police use? I do

not know. German shepherd the same thing. Okay, yeah, same thing,

same thing, because they are highly effective in training, and they are

incredibly smart. Right, yes, so they in of themselves have all the

hardware with which to interpret vocal commands, right, right, and not just

vocal commands vocal stimuli. Now, why did I say that vocal stimuli?

Well, how does a dog react to other dogs? Barkie? They usually

join, That's right, My point being it was kind of a tricksy question.

They react to other dogs barking, don't they. They also can communicate

to other animals via barking, an't they? So, yes, this is

proof in the pudding. They have all the soma, all the body parts

required to interpret vocalization and respond to it. You see, you have to

have the hardware first, and then the software in that brain must also be

able to interpret and produce reactions. So ear drums is not enough and the

brain is not enough. They have to be figured correctly. That could be

configured correctly. So if you're dealing with a demon, all demons are angelic

in their origin, right, Quit thinking that they're half man. They're not.

They're half angel. So if you run into an entity that is angelic

in origin and German shepherd in origin, that one you will be able to

command because that that that abomination has the hardware to interpret and react and respond

to vocalization. Now there's many animals on this planet that can respond to vocalization,

but they cannot react to it. That is to say, not every

animal that has vocal horrors and ear drums can be trained. Everyone who works

in a zoo can tell you this. So this is what is being relayed

to in the Bible, God's Holy Word. In more waste than one tonight,

I just decided to do the Greek, but we very well could have

done the Hebrew. It would have basically said basically would have said the same

thing in the Hebraica as the Hellenica. What's the Hellenica? The Hellenica is

the complete Greek Bible. The complete Greek Bible is a septuagen Old Testament coupled

with the Edicto Regia New Testament. The Hebraica is the Old Testament maseratic texts

combined with delitch New Testament. Very easy to prove. We just proved this

in the Devil and Satan fellowship that we did right, Very easy to prove.

If you have the wherewithal to no Hebrew and have the wherewithal of no

Greek, you can plainly prove that the Hebraic aligns up perfectly with the Helenica.

So any other questions about demons or unclean spirits or whatever else you want

to call them, any other questions about them. I did have a question,

not so much about the well, I guess it sort of is the

prayer and fasting to get these certain ones out. I understand the prairie quest.

I don't understand the fasting. Is that is that something part of your

life that should be that you're fasted up at all times? You know you

fast so many days a week or and you see this, you begin to

assass and send your prayers. I mean, why the fasting with the prayer?

Let's ask Jenny, Jenny, what's what's your thoughts? Why do you

think it's a combination of the two. I don't know. The first thing

came to mind was two witnesses. But that's that's that's what I thought.

But I don't know. Well, that's that's actually pretty good. That's uh,

that's that's obviously pretty good. So so does anybody know where these two

words come together in the sub trojan? No? No, I'm sorry,

did you say no, misir? I don't. I don't know. Well,

gamy, that's probably why you don't know. Okay, Let's go to

Namayah chapter one, verse four. Matter fact, let's go to just Neamiyah

chapter one. Okay, So who wants to read it for me? Somebody?

Come on, it's not hard to find Neamiyah's inn the Old Testament before

songs. I just don't have a new king, James, But that's okay,

that's okay. Read what you have, okay? And he said,

what what? Chapter and chapter one? Chapter one? Mh yeah, chapter

one verse what? Just read I think you'll hear it. Okay, the

words of Niamayah, the son of heck Elaiah. Now it happened in the

month ki his Love, in the twentieth year, while I was in Susa,

the capital that Hannanayah, one of my brothers, and some men from

Judah came and I asked them about the Jews who had escaped and had survived

the captivity, and about Jerusalem. And they said to me, the remnant

there and the province who survived the captivity are in great distress and disgrace.

And the wall of Jerusalem is broken down, and its gates have been burned

with fire. Now, when I heard these words, I sat down and

wept and mourned for days, and I was fasting and praying before the God

of Heaven. I said, Please, Lord, God of Heaven, the

great and awesome God who keeps the covenant and faithfulness for those who love him

and keep his commandments. Let your ear now be attentive and your eyes open

to hear the prayer of your servant, which I am praying before you now

day and night on. Behalf of the sons of Israel, your servants,

confessing the sins of the sons of Israel, which we have committed against you.

I and my father's house have sinned. We have acted very corruptly against

you. And I have not kept the commandments, nor the statutes, nor

the ordinances. What you commanded your servant Moses. Remember, please the word

what you commanded your servant Moses, saying, if you are unfaithful, I

will scatter you among the peoples. But if you return to me and keep

my commandments and do them. Though those of you who have been scattered were

in the most remote parts of the heavens, I will gather them from where

and bring them to the place where I have chosen to have my name dwell.

They are your servants and your people, whom you're redeemed by your great

power and by your strong hand. Please, Lord, may your ear be

attentive to the prayer of your servant and the prayer of your servants who delight

to revere your name. And please make your servants successful today, and grant

him mercy before this man, Now I was the cup bear to the king.

End of chapter one. You didn't have to read that far, but

it made it very clear as to why a prayer and fast should be coupled

together. And yes, here in the Hellenica, just like you thought.

Okay, just exactly what that verse said over there in Matthew. That's what

these Greek words are. That's G. Three thirty six. And of course

the company were there for praying. Just look it up. You need to

write these things down and look it up for yourself. I won't give you

the word for praying because you need to do that for yourself. So you

see that when there's a major catastrope, it takes prayer and fasting to petition

heaven. It made itself pretty clear, right, yeah, yes, definitely,

And this word said, I beseech you, we could do it.

We could do a Bible study on that. That's exactly what happened to the

disciples when they were trying to deliver this boy. They figured out that,

hey, this is outside of our domain. We can undo this. This

is exactly what was being talked about here. Okay, made itself pretty clear.

You said. The remnant there in the province who survived, okay,

are in great distress and reproached. The wall of Jerusalem was broken down and

the gates are burned with fire. Nothing these people can do about it.

So at that point you have to petition heaven, and you do so by

prayer and fasting. Pretty easy. It's not hard. When you just take

those words and look at them in the Hellenica, they will take you where

you need to go. It's pretty easy. So, I mean, you

know that Daniel did this right. So Daniel chapter nine, verse three.

Can you find that for us? Jenny, Daniel chapter nine, verse three

or maybe verse four. I think it's verse three. And after you read

that, we will take uh, we'll talk to Jamie. I guess she

wants to talk about something else. Did you find it yet, Jenny,

Yes, yep. So I gave my attention to the Lord God to seek

him by prayer and pleading, with fasting, seth sadcloth and read the next

verse. I prayed to the Lord, my God, and confessed and said,

Oh, Lord, the great and awesome God, who keeps his covenant

and faithfulness for those who love him and keep his commandments. We have sinned.

We have done wrong and acted wickedly, and rebelled, even turning aside

from your commandments and ordinances. Moreover, we have not listened to your servants,

the prophets, who spoke in your name to our kings, our leaders,

our fathers, and all the people of the land. That's enough.

You realize he's doing exactly what Nehemiah had done. Right. Yes, he

added some things, but he said the exact same reasons. So, ladies

and gentlemen, when you're in the covenant with the Lord Jesus Christ, you

are in Israel. Israel is not the israelis great big difference. Romans chapters

nine through eleven defines for you what Israel is. I don't care what the

dispensational let's say they're liars. I mean, you basically get three things from

the dispensation less you get three lives. Zionism. Yeah, that's where it

comes from. The pre tribulation, rapture you get that from them, and

dispensationalism you get that from them. That's three lies. So anyway, this

is making itself pretty clear. If you run into an obstacle, something is

terribly wrong and you need to petition heaven. And when you petition heaven,

both Neemiah and Daniel both agree you must do so with prayer and fasting.

Now that probably makes a lot of people upset, right, take note this

aspect is also and Psalm thirty five. Now that right, there is what

twenty eight twenty nine verses. It's pretty lengthy, but there it is.

And guess what David does because this is a psalm of David. Right,

read for me verse thirteen of Psalm thirty five, Jenny, go to Psalm

thirty five, verse thirteen, because this is how David does it too,

Psalm thirty five thirteen. But as for me, when they were sick,

my clothing was sackcloth. I humbled my soul with fasting, but my prayer

capture turning to me. This is how you do it, how David does

it. That's how it's done. You do it with prayer and fasting.

You do it with prayer and fasting. All right, Jamie, did you

have a question or comment? No, sir, really, will you have

your hand raised? I forget that was that was earlier, So there it

is, okay, okay, all right, all right, so there you

have it. Anything any other questions you got, Sherry, Well, let

me ask you this first, Sherry, did I answer your question? Yes?

So? Uh so this is the fast that is pleasing to him essentially,

then this prayer and fasting absolutely okay, but you're trying to I never

put that together like that before, but I get it now. I just

wanted clarity on it. Okay, all right, well, but you just

phrase that kind of strangely. You said this was the type of prayer that

was pleasing to God when you fasted with it. You said that strangely to

me, this is the kind of prayer that's pleasing. Well, the fast,

the fast, it's pleasing. Okay, all right, all right,

that's yes, it's it's it's the fast accompanied with the prayer that'll get your

petition hurt. That's what this is saying overtly, so so yeah, that's

overtly so that that's what it's saying. All right, anything else we need

to discuss any other questions as far as as far as like call it casting

out demons, like are we are we all capable? Can you? It's

impossible to cast out like on yourself correctly. I mean, I know you

can praying fast and cleanse somewhat, but I mean you and I've had discussions

where I definitely needed to be relieved at that and it was something I couldn't

take care of myself, Like is that the second witness or the power of

two or whatever. Is that importance? Like, it's not every single person?

Is that not their gift? Well, let's go back to Matthew.

Okay, because it said something, and I guess I was expecting you to

catch it. But let me flip back over there real quick. I'm sorry

that I let everybody down, but I was just assuming that everybody heard what

it said. Okay, let me go back up here. It says verse

nineteen, then the disciples, the disciples, thank noe. It says the

same thing in the verse before it, the man says, so I brought

him to your disciples. There is no singular part in this process, Jamie.

It was there in the text. It was embedded in the text,

and I just failed to bring it up to you. This always needs to

be done with the witness. Yes, So you don't ever need to act

upon any thing like this and engage it independently. That's not supposed to be

done. You are a body, Jamie. You're just a part of a

body. It's the body that has the power to engage these entities, not

individuals. So in two verses and these texts, it was made perfectly clear

that it was disciples that was engaging. Whether they were successful or not was

irrelevant. It was never a disciple that tried to do this to this man's

son. And Jesus was very clear he didn't tell a disciple. You see,

you never figured out which disciple did this because the disciples had been sent

out to by two. Correct, So you should know and understand that's why

Jesus didn't tell a disciple this can call it only come out by prayer and

fasting. He told the disciples it's embedded in the text. This is not

to be done independently or you will fail. So yes, does it matter

who in the body is having a problem or if this problem is outside the

body, It is the body and the body alone that can aged these entities

and not a body part. Okay, so yes, that's that's the foundation

of this this story here, that it was the disciples corporately failing. They

were failing, and Jesus told them why you were not corporately as a body

of disciples praying and fasting, or you would have been able to deliver this

boy, not from epilepsy, but from this demon. Okay, uh,

good, good, good thing to bring up jamis a very good thing to

bring up any other questions before we close out, and don't have to be

about demons any anything you want to ask me about before we get off.

No going once, going twice, going through talks. Hey, Jennifer,

can you come pray us out of here? Please? Dear God, thank

you for this day. Lord. Thank you for all the mothers that you

have put into our lives, Lord, that have raised us and taught us

about your son Jesus Christ, have imprinted your word on our heart's Lord.

I asked you bless them all today and that you will be merciful to them.

Lord. I asked that each and every one of their children and the

children that they have that they have worked with throughout their lives, Lord,

that you will call them and that you will choose them, Lord, and

that you will accept the mentor your sheep. Old Lord, thank you for

this time to study together. Lord. Thank you so much for allowing us

the opportunity to come together. And please bless Matthew for all of his efforts

and time and all of the just everything he has as he has put out

here for us. Lord, Thank you again for everything. Thank you most

of all for sending your son Jesus Christ. Lord in Jesus' name. Amen,

Amen, and Amen. Until next time, ladies and gentlemen, God

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