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S2E07 Fellowship: Gamaliel & The Two Anti-Messiahs

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  1. Do you know the Bible is God's Holy Word? Do

  2. you know it is inspired, in errant, and infallible? If so, like, share, subscribe,

  3. and support this podcast. So we are mere Nathal Ministries

  4. and now Redemption draweth nigh. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen, Welcome

  5. to the fellowship. Tonight we have a special request at

  6. the last minute. That's always good and it's a very

  7. important question and one that well, my sisters in Christ

  8. keep doing this to me. I don't I fear God

  9. and and there's some things that are in the Bible

  10. that I know they're there and I just don't talk

  11. about them openly unless a sibling of mine backs me

  12. into the corner. And tonight that's what we're going to

  13. get into. And it just happens to be that this

  14. very weak this repeatedly has been happening to me, that

  15. people have and and of course it's sisters. This week.

  16. There's no brothers doing it to me. It's sisters. Every

  17. time they they're asking me or they're saying the exact

  18. thing that needs to be said, that where God is

  19. forcing me to talk about this. Under normal circumstances, I wouldn't,

  20. but the body of Christ needs to be prepared for

  21. what's to come, and unfortunately the body of Christ in

  22. the West, they're one of two things. They think they're

  23. either going to be raptured before anything happens, or if

  24. they are preadtorists, they believe that they're in the millennial

  25. reign of Christ right now, and they get out of

  26. the tribulation too. They think that the only thing we're

  27. waiting on is the return of Christ. There is no

  28. millennial reign of Christ. And Christ immediately hands it over

  29. to God the Father, and there's new heaven and new Earth.

  30. So literally Christ returns and immediately there's a new heavens

  31. and new earthmaid So most people are so unprepared by

  32. both camps. I mean, this is just two sides of

  33. the same coin, and I'm very hesitant to say it,

  34. but it is the truth. A coin is deception. It

  35. doesn't matter if you're a dispensationalist, doesn't matter if you're

  36. turning the point over and you're a preadterist. You know

  37. many of you are Christians. Please try to understand that

  38. this does not determine your salvation. Okay, most people that

  39. have died and entered their rest are one of these

  40. two camps since the eighteen hundreds. Now take note, do

  41. you go back to the early Church. The entire church

  42. was historical premillennialist, All of them were. So this is

  43. basically in the last two hundred years that you have

  44. these two camps that have arisen. So I'm not saying

  45. that at all. I mean there are many God fearing,

  46. Bible believing, gospel preaching Christians that are dispensationalists and that

  47. are preterist. But you need to understand this. If you're

  48. one of those two things, you're carrying the same coin,

  49. You're carrying the same baggage around. It's called deception. You

  50. need to be prepared for what is to come. Jennifer

  51. just didn't ask me a question. She just clicked in

  52. some verses into the Ecclesia chat, which is on Facebook.

  53. If you want to be a part of that, you

  54. need to get on Facebook. Send me a message and

  55. we'll get you into that chat. But this is what

  56. she put in Acts Chapter five, verse thirty four. Then

  57. stood there up one in the council, a pharisee named Gamneo,

  58. a doctor of the law, had a reputation among the people,

  59. and commanded to put the apostles forth a little space,

  60. and said unto them, ye, men of Israel, take heed

  61. to yourselves what you intended do as touching these men.

  62. For before these days rose up Thadeus, boasting himself to

  63. be somebody to whom a number of men, about four

  64. hundred joined themselves. All was slain, and all as many

  65. obeyed him were scattered and brought to nought. After this

  66. a man arose Judas of Galilee in the days of

  67. the Taxi, and dreway much people after him. He also perished,

  68. and all, even as many as obeyed him were dispersed.

  69. That's all she put in. Unfortunately, this is tied to

  70. the hip to end time Bible prophecy. Right here, dead bang,

  71. the Lord your God is telling you if you want

  72. to look for the signs of the rise of the Assyrian,

  73. it's right here in front of your face. If you

  74. want to see signs to the rise of the false prophet,

  75. right here's your two witnesses. Both of these individuals are

  76. all over the works of Josephus. He gives you intimate

  77. details into these two characters as to when they rose,

  78. how they fell. So the minute Jennifer put this into

  79. the chat I was very apprehensive, and I knew I

  80. had a choice. I can just flat tell her no,

  81. I could just flat ignore her. I could continue on

  82. with what I intended to do tonight. I was going

  83. to do the subject tell no One. That was going

  84. to be the title Tell No One, so you can imagine.

  85. And I get frustrated in the middle of making up

  86. the docket for it because I was making up a

  87. Google document for it, and Jennifer sent me this, and

  88. I know I have no choice. I literally have no choice.

  89. This is what we're doing tonight. So well, let's get

  90. Jennifer on here. You know, I need to know what's

  91. going on inside your head that provokes you to send

  92. me this text. So just spill the beans, Jennifer. What's

  93. going on? Was it something in the news, was it

  94. something you heard elsewhere? What made you put this into

  95. the chat?

  96. Well? It was twofold. I suppose. One is that you

  97. directed us to acts recently, so I was refreshing myself

  98. on that in general. But secondarily, as I have mentioned before,

  99. we have had some things going on at the church

  100. that I attend that I'm still trying to process in

  101. my own mind, and I think or I feel like

  102. there has been things going on in our churches which

  103. bide and like jude and a variety of places in

  104. the Bible.

  105. But I.

  106. Think that we should be able to find the root

  107. of those things, and I think that these names here

  108. should be put some light on some of the things

  109. that are going on in our current times, just by

  110. looking at what happened historically.

  111. Absolutely absolutely, did you know that both of these characters

  112. are in the works of Josephus.

  113. Well, when I looked today, I was able to find

  114. a fair amount of information about the Judas of Galilee

  115. from but I could not find nearly as much information

  116. about the Thaddeus or however you say that person's name,

  117. and I assume that's on purpose, But I'm sure you

  118. can illuminate me on that.

  119. Well, I mean, it's it's there in book twenty. I

  120. can read that part, and maybe we should start right there.

  121. So this is from Flavius Josephus. This is a twenty

  122. point ninety seven. Now it came to pass why Fattius

  123. was the pure creator of Judia Judea, that a certain

  124. magician whose name was Thedais persuaded the great part of

  125. the people who take their efforts with him and follow

  126. him to the river Jordan. For he told them he

  127. was a prophet and that he would buy his own command,

  128. divide the river, and afford them an easy passage over it,

  129. And many were deluded by his words. However, Thaidius did

  130. not permit them to take any advantage of his wild attempt,

  131. but sent a troop of horsemen out against them, who,

  132. falling upon them, unexpectedly, slew many of them and took

  133. many of them alive. They also took Thaddius alive and

  134. cut off his head and carried it to Jerusalem. This

  135. was what befell the Jews in the time of Cospius

  136. Thaidius's government. Boy, was this a cup of worms? What's

  137. your thoughts on that?

  138. Jenny, initial thought was that, and that's when they crossed

  139. from the end of the Exodus into and to the

  140. Promised Land. I mean, so my initial thoughts are that

  141. they're trying to find a way into the Promised Land.

  142. That is an ulterior method than Jesus Christ.

  143. Well, well, that's one way to look at it. Another

  144. way to look at it is they are exiting the

  145. Promised Land, now, right, you do, I mean, you do

  146. realize that if if he was, and take note, he

  147. didn't fail to do this, did he. That's not that's

  148. not what Josephus said. This troop on horseback taught them

  149. before they got to the river. Now you won't need

  150. to digest that that if this would have been done

  151. and it would have opened up, don't you realize that

  152. they would have took this as a sign that they

  153. were leaving God's promise, they were exiting the promises. So

  154. this is this would have been seriously dangerous because this

  155. would have proven authorship by the Lord, our God. Now look,

  156. God's only done this twice. Okay, nobody else has ever

  157. done it. Only he who sitteth upon the throne. An

  158. exercised dominion over the waters, period, over the wind, period,

  159. because it takes both. Because well, let me remind everybody,

  160. you're not wanting to remember the proper thing. The proper

  161. thing is when Jesus was in the boat, the disciples

  162. woking up, we're all gonna die, Jesus said, no, you're

  163. all knuckleheads. He rebuked the wind and the waves and

  164. went boom immediately calm. Why is this important? Because it's

  165. a remembrancer for me, Because God just didn't split the

  166. Red Sea. No, no, we didn't. No he didn't. God

  167. stood between Pharaoh and the Egyptians and between the children

  168. of Israel all night long. Yes he did. And it

  169. says that the wind blew all night and parted the

  170. Red Sea. So only the Lord your God can exercise

  171. dominion over the wind and the water, just him, nobody else.

  172. So if this one would have been permitted to do this,

  173. he would have taken captive the whole of the children

  174. of Israel. Well, of course, there's no children of Israel

  175. left at this time. It's basically the Jews. So please

  176. remember that this is at this point in time. The

  177. ten lost tribes are already gone. So no one understand

  178. that the two tribes that remain is Judah and Benjamin.

  179. So this would have been very concerning if this would

  180. have happened. And take note, where is he going. Look,

  181. you're not reading between the lines here. I know what's

  182. on the other side of the Jordan. I know where

  183. Moses was when he viewed the Promised land. That was

  184. on Mountain Nebel. It is Mountain Nebele. These Jews knew

  185. what the scripture, their scripture said. Now remember this is

  186. before the cannon. Their scripture, which I've shared with you before, Laney,

  187. states that Jeremiah took the ark of the Covenant to

  188. Mount Nebo and it is there in a cave. Not

  189. only that, the Bible repeatedly says that a standard will

  190. be sat up in the end times. Now to take no,

  191. what's on Mountain Nebo right now? If you don't know,

  192. that means you don't have a clue. And I'm gonna

  193. have to give you a hint. You need to look

  194. this up because what's up there is a brazen serpent cross.

  195. I'm not kidding Bill. Google search this type in Hope

  196. and Nebo and see what happens. You're gonna come up

  197. to multiple times that the Pope has went to Mountain

  198. Nebo to this this abomination. It's a great big bronze

  199. statue of a cross, but there's a serpent in the cross.

  200. So literally, now you know the rest of the story.

  201. What this joker was trying to do. He was going

  202. to take this group of people back up to Mountain Nebo.

  203. That's what he's going to do. So these very short

  204. sentences we read here about this joker is very important. Now,

  205. the real question is is that who stopped this joker. Well,

  206. you have to accept the inevitable. Nothing happens without the

  207. signature of the Lord, Thy God. God prevented him from

  208. doing this. And take note, why did they decapitate him?

  209. Why did they take his head? Not only did they

  210. take his head, they took his head back to Jerusalem.

  211. I mean, this is so crampact with Bible prophecy. It's

  212. enough to blow your mind. This false prophet knew exactly

  213. what to do, could do the entire remnant of the

  214. House of Israel. Now remember there's only two tribes left,

  215. There's only Judah and Benjamin. But this one would have

  216. literally had the power to dupe them all. He would

  217. have duped them all. If he would have pulled this off,

  218. nobody would have denied this is pym Asiak. Only he

  219. could have done it. It would have had it. And remember, okay,

  220. you got to remember the Jews have two Messiahs. They

  221. have Messiah been David and Messiah been Joseph. If he

  222. would have done this, he would have proved himself to

  223. be Messiah been Joseph. He would have proved it beyond

  224. any shadow of the belt. So this really does bear

  225. in mind the stark warning of the Lord Jesus Christ

  226. in Matthew chapter twenty four. Now be careful, you know,

  227. he says it in a very way that's very important.

  228. First off, he says, many will come saying I'm the Messiah.

  229. And then he says, if a witness tells you, hey,

  230. he's in the inner room, don't go. Did you not

  231. realize that that's what the Lord Jesus Christ was telling you.

  232. If you're in the presence of someone who says this,

  233. don't believe them. If you're not in the presence of

  234. one that does this, and somebody comes and tells you, hey,

  235. I know where the Messiah is at. He's down on

  236. Third Street. No he's not. You need to look up,

  237. because I assure you you every Tom, Dick and Harry,

  238. every single Peter, Paul and Mary on this planet, you

  239. will see the Lord Jesus Christ, heavy and bound from

  240. the very throne of God. You will see him coming.

  241. You're gonna see him coming. So some joker shows up

  242. and says, hey, I'm he No you're not. I didn't

  243. see you coming. So no one understands that if this

  244. joker would have pulled this off, there would be there

  245. would be no remnant of Israel right now. There would

  246. only be Christians. There would be no Jews left because

  247. he would have proven himself to be Messiah, son of Joseph,

  248. because only Joseph could have done that. So your thoughts

  249. on that, Jennifer.

  250. To be honest with you, that was pretty heavy. So

  251. I don't have any thoughts at the moment.

  252. Okay, Well, the first thing we need to understand that

  253. this just proves the warnings of the Lord Jesus Christ. Jennifer,

  254. Jennifer harkened to my voice, I don't care if I'm bad,

  255. if I get ran over, if I have a heart attack,

  256. None of that garbage matters. Hearken to my voice. You will,

  257. you will if you are alive and remain. And who

  258. really cares about you? Because I know you don't care

  259. about you, Jennifer, you care about your children. You need

  260. to teach them this. If they are alive and remain,

  261. they will see and they need to ignore it. The

  262. only thing they need to see is the Lord, their God,

  263. stampeding across the cosmos, because you will see him coming.

  264. And even if someone can literally have charge over the

  265. wind and the waves, do not believe them. You will

  266. see him coming. The Lord Jesus Christ is emphatically warning

  267. you that there's going to come one who will be

  268. given dominion over the wind and the seas, and he

  269. will be able even to trample the host of heaven,

  270. and you will see him first. And he is not

  271. the Lord your God. That's what you need to teach

  272. your children, and Jennifer, you better make sure that they

  273. know it to the point they're going to teach their

  274. children long after you've entered your rest. So if you

  275. didn't know this historical documentation, you need to write it

  276. down the Antiquities of the Jews Book twenty, section ninety seven.

  277. You need to write it. It needs to literally be a footnote.

  278. You need to be able to tell the children. Look,

  279. this joker was going to prove himself to be none

  280. other than Messiah's son of Joseph. And God said no,

  281. I don't think so. So take note that this one

  282. had the power obviously the same power as John the Baptist.

  283. Did that shock you? You better figure it out. He

  284. wasn't taking these people out there for no reason. He

  285. could have done it, and quite flatly, God said no.

  286. So you said that you got a lot of research

  287. on the other witness that we have here. So I'm

  288. just going to pass it over to you, Jennifer, and

  289. you can just share to your heart's content, all right.

  290. So what is the big spiel on this, Uh, Judics

  291. of Galilee. I mean, boy, there's a whole bunch of

  292. Judases out there, especially during this timeframe. So share what

  293. you've got, please, And I'm going to I'm going to

  294. meet my mic because I have to cough. I've got

  295. a serious chess code.

  296. Okay, Well, I cannot verify if this is accurate. This

  297. is just from Wikipedia. So this is what I have

  298. read earlier today, which said that Judas of Galilee was

  299. a Jewish leader who led a resistance to the census

  300. imposed for Roman text purposes. By I'm going to make

  301. this name sound horrible Querinius. In the Judaea province in SIXCEE.

  302. He encouraged Jews not to register, and those that did

  303. had their houses burnt and their cattle stolen by his followers.

  304. He is credited with beginning the Fourth Philosophy of the Jews,

  305. which Josephus blames for the disastrous war with the Romans

  306. in sixty six to seventy three. These events are discussed

  307. by Josephus in the Jewish War and the Antiquities of

  308. the Jews, and mentioned in the Book of Acts. So

  309. that is just sort of the shortened version on what

  310. I ran across on him. But when I read the

  311. he was sort of the instigator for all of the

  312. things that happened between sixties six and seventy three. I

  313. thought that was of extreme importance. So that's another reason

  314. why I sort of wanted to talk about this.

  315. Well, absolutely, I see where you're I see where you're

  316. reading from. You got this from the Wikipedia. You can

  317. go ahead and all of this is correct. I mean,

  318. it's worded kind of funny. It's that they changed some

  319. of the phrases here. But I guess you, I guess

  320. you can say that the it's not really the Fourth Philosophy,

  321. it's the fourth sect. It is what it is. But

  322. that's pretty good stuff. So I'll have you go ahead

  323. and read the rest of that. But let's let's talk

  324. a little bit first before we go further.

  325. Okay, So.

  326. Ladies and gentlemen know and understand that this is the

  327. very joker h what this Fourth Philosophy? Well, it's it's

  328. it's not a philosophy, it's a fourth sect. This is

  329. the zealous. Okay Uh Josepha's plainly comes out and says

  330. there were three sets. There were Pharisees, Sadducees, scenes, and

  331. then this joker, with the backing of Zadok the priest,

  332. came up with the fourth sect, which was the zealous.

  333. It is this very this very individual paired himself with

  334. Zadok the priest, and they distroyed Israel. It was they

  335. that instigated the fury of the Romans to completely obliterate Judah.

  336. Just just take it off the map. Why has no

  337. one mentioned this that this is a massive prophecy. It

  338. was a massive prophecy by somebody that was not a Christian.

  339. Now take note this quote from Acts chapter five. It's

  340. certainly in the Bible, but it's a quote from somebody

  341. who is not I repeat, he is not a Christian. Yet.

  342. This is a massive prophecy. And if your INtime Bible

  343. prophecy teacher didn't tell you this, you have got a

  344. lot to learn. This is massively important that he literally

  345. is telling you what is going to happen that hasn't

  346. happened yet. It was this very joker that caused the

  347. destruction of Judah as a nation. I mean after the

  348. event incursion with Titus. It was done. From that point forward,

  349. the only Jews were just scattered. So if nobody ever

  350. told you that, literally, you could say that this guy

  351. was predicting the Book of Revelation. I guess take note

  352. the Book of Revelation. It is a part of isochronology.

  353. I have told everybody that, yes, what happened back then?

  354. It started in sixty six, Yes it did, and went

  355. to seventy It was forty two months. You can empirically

  356. prove this in a court of law. You're already supposed

  357. to know that. You're supposed to know that, literally, this

  358. was spread out over forty two months. Yes it was, Yes,

  359. it was. Look it up. It started in the spring

  360. of sixty Jerusalem was obliterated in the fall three and

  361. a half years later. So this is being written in

  362. between that time. And it's this very joker that sided

  363. with a false priest. And now you're all probably putting

  364. two and two together because this is pretty important. You see,

  365. this joker hooked up with a priest, not only any priest,

  366. he just happened to be in exata you muys, we'll

  367. be talking about David. This joker is doing the exact

  368. opposite as the other one he was. He was claiming

  369. to be Messiah being David. This is why he had

  370. to fulfill the prophecies of Dachelariah. If he was going

  371. to be the zerubbable in that prophecy, he couldn't do

  372. so with out a Joshua, the high priest. So literally speaking,

  373. one example, he's given an example as somebody who claimed

  374. to be Messiah ben Joshua. The other one was Messiah

  375. ben David. Even hooking up with a false priest, well

  376. with a priest, this is enough to rattle your cage. Look,

  377. all rabbis know this. All rabbis know this. Literally speaking,

  378. I could take you to the very synagogue where we

  379. were setting in what you call the sanctuary, because I

  380. was there constructing their suka. Okay, let's just run down

  381. the line here. How many Protestants do you know have

  382. gone to synagogue to build their suka for? Were them

  383. for shoe quote? So you can just imagine that my

  384. questions were pretty important to him. And yes, he knew

  385. all about Acts chapter five, and he knew all about

  386. these very verses. Now, he of course would not tell

  387. his congregation that, but I asked him about these very things.

  388. I wanted the details that I didn't know. So, yes,

  389. you need to be aware that that's the importance of

  390. these two references. One was a false messiah Ben David,

  391. and one was a false Messiah Ben Joshua. Jennifer. Why

  392. don't you go ahead and finish reading this? This is

  393. pretty good stuff. It's a good summation.

  394. Here, all right. In the Antiquities of the Jews, Josepha

  395. states that Judas along was that of the Pharisee, founded

  396. the Zealots, the fourth sect of first century Judaism, the

  397. first three sects being the Sadducees, Pharisees, and Aescenes. Josephus

  398. blamed this fourth sect for the First Jewish Roman War

  399. of sixty six to seventy three. The Zealots were theocratic

  400. nationalists who preached that God alone was the ruler of

  401. Israel and urged that no taxes should be paid to Rome.

  402. Do you want me to keep going, Matthew.

  403. Sure, I don't see why not. You got three more paragraphs.

  404. Go ahead, This is that's pretty good stuff.

  405. Several scholars such as Gunner Hayland and James S. McLaren

  406. have suggested that Doosephus's description of the Fourth Sect does

  407. not reflect historical reality, but was constructed to serve his

  408. own interests. According to Hayland, the part covering the Zealots

  409. acts as a transition in an introduction to the excursion

  410. concerning the Jewish schools of thought, all of which Josephus

  411. presents to portray the majority of Jews in a positive

  412. light and to show that the Jewish War was incited

  413. by a radical minority. Similarly, MacLaren proposes that Judas and

  414. his sect act as scapegoats for the war that are chronologically, geopically,

  415. and socially removed from the priestly circles of Jerusalem. This himself.

  416. Josephus does not relate the death of Judas, but does

  417. report that Judas's sons, James and Simon, were executed by

  418. a procurator, Tiberius Julius Alexander in about forty six. Cell

  419. So claims that Menahan and Judah, one of the early

  420. leaders of the Jewish Rebel in sixty sixty, was Judas's son,

  421. which some scholars doubt, though Menihan may have been Judas's grandson.

  422. Menahan's cousin, Eliezer ben Yair escaped the fortress of Masada,

  423. where he came later the last doomed defenders against the

  424. Roman Empire. Judas is referred to in the Acts of

  425. the Apon, which a speech by Gamaliel, a member of

  426. the Sanhedrin, identifies that Thatius and Judas as examples of

  427. failed Messianic movement that in the name of Jesus of

  428. Nazareth could similarly fail unless he really was the Messiah.

  429. I'd let you go ahead and read that, but take

  430. note these two jokers that you quote that are countering Josephus.

  431. You have no proof for that, none at all. Josephus

  432. was telling the truth. These people are just countering and

  433. ancient with a witness of which they have no right

  434. nor authority to counter what he stated. So take note.

  435. What you do need to see here is that every Tom,

  436. Dick and Harry that hates the Lord Jesus Christ absolutely

  437. don't want Josephus to be true. Yes, it's true. There

  438. is no counter ancient manuscripts to debunk Josephus. This is

  439. the truth when you know it it's very disturbing to

  440. realize that this was even tied to a census. Now

  441. that opens a can of worms all in itself. But

  442. take note that it did say that Mannheim was a grandson.

  443. We all know how Jews did it. There was no

  444. grandsons or great grandsons or great great grandsons. You were

  445. the son of. So they were outright lying to you

  446. when they know that is the case. So you need

  447. to realize that this is very disturbing with the simple

  448. fact that this happened in relationship to a census. Now,

  449. not just any senses, but the senses of this particular one.

  450. It makes you take a deep breath. What does that mean?

  451. What does that mean? Let me bring up the Wikipedia

  452. article for this. Can you bring up the Wikipedia article

  453. for that, Jennifer, for the census? Yes, for the census.

  454. Okay, maybe I'll try.

  455. You should you should be able to just.

  456. Census of queer Queraneus. The Census of Queeranius was a

  457. census of the Roman province of Judaea, taken in six

  458. CE upon its formation by the governor of Roman Syria

  459. Plublius Sulpicious Queraneus. Sorry, I'm not I'm butchering those names.

  460. The census triggered a revolt of Jewish extremists called Zealots,

  461. led by Judas of Galilee. The Gospel of Luke uses

  462. the census to date the birth of Jesus, which the

  463. Gospel of Matthew places in the time Here the Great,

  464. who died between five BCE and one CE. Most critical

  465. scholars acknowledged that Luke is an air, while religious academics

  466. have attempted to explain the confusion with historically unverified claims.

  467. Well, did that take you by surprise?

  468. Well, that was one of my questions was if this

  469. was the same census we were talking about with Jesus.

  470. Well, that's the can of worms in itself, right, because

  471. this text is pointing out that Matthew and Luke are

  472. contradicting each other. Now, why is that? Because this much

  473. is true contrary to the Gospel of Matthew, which places

  474. Jesus' birth in the time of Herod. First, the Gospel

  475. of Luke corrects it with the senses. So the problem

  476. is is that if you just want to be spoon

  477. fed here, you realize that they say Harod died in

  478. one date and this census was in another's that's that's

  479. the problem they create. I didn't say that the Bible

  480. created it. That's not what I said. I said they

  481. created it. They say that the Roman documentation says that

  482. this was taken in six six AD. Now the problem

  483. is is that Herod the Great they date him to

  484. dying between five BC and ONEAD. So they're saying that

  485. it's impossible because Herod was already dead, right.

  486. That's what I heard.

  487. Yes, So you all need to know this that obviously

  488. there was a census before that. And if you've known

  489. this ministry anytime, we put this through the infamous Chinese

  490. ghost commet and Haley's comment and the birth of Augustus's

  491. son in TENBC. So when you put all these things together,

  492. we all know that the Bible it's true. I mean,

  493. there are no other witnesses to the week of creation,

  494. just God. So here you can take this to the bank.

  495. These people are lying and saying there was only one census.

  496. There was a census before when Herod was alive. That's

  497. when this happened. Now, this ministry has long I have

  498. always used a ghost commet that happened two years after

  499. Haley's comment, and everybody he thought it was the same comment.

  500. They thought that Hailey's had returned. This is why the

  501. Bible states that. Of course, two years go by and

  502. uh oh the magice. I look up and say, hey,

  503. there's the star again. And now it's standing over this,

  504. you know, stable that has the Christ child in it.

  505. So Herod said, okay, from the time they first spotted

  506. it till now kill all the children two years an under.

  507. This is explained by Haley's Comet and the Chinese ghost comet.

  508. Get the documentation. I keep it on hand. I keep

  509. that documentation on hand. Also, you need to know this

  510. ties into the slaughter of the innocence because the birth

  511. of Augustus's son. So, boy, this opens up can of worms,

  512. doesn't it. This almost sounds like the Second Seal, doesn't it.

  513. Jennifer, You could definitely look at it that way.

  514. Yes, you could definitely look at it that way. This,

  515. Oh my goodness, it's amazing the reactions I get in

  516. the classroom when I start talking about these things, when

  517. people begin to realize, no, no, no, now, wait a minute,

  518. you're saying that a census triggered this Antichrist. That's exactly

  519. what I'm saying. And the historians know it. They've always

  520. known it. And it makes especially Bible teachers upset because yes,

  521. I've been in multiple churches, multiple denominations when they would

  522. fight over me as a teacher, so I'd have to

  523. rotate through the different classes, and literally teachers would quit

  524. so they could attend my Sunday school class. And it

  525. caused so much problems that well, you can just imagine

  526. the problems that it created. You need to know this,

  527. this happened before. That's why the Lord's your God. Add

  528. the Sanhedron trump up a witness to remind everybody about

  529. these two false christ That's why. That's why it happened,

  530. so you would know what was coming. Now, you know,

  531. this kind of thing is already happened, just not exactly here.

  532. But you know everybody knows about the rise of the euro, right, right, Jennifer,

  533. you know what the euro is? Right?

  534. Yes?

  535. I know that?

  536. Okay, So do the Germans like paying a tax to

  537. a currency that is not theirs? Do they like that?

  538. I would think not?

  539. No. Do you think the French like it? No? Of

  540. course not. We of course had this what we have

  541. this has floated back about ten years ago. Maybe it

  542. was no longer than that, but it was going to

  543. be called the Amero. Remember that, Jennifer, Yeah, I remember that.

  544. That's what this is saying. This is exactly what happened.

  545. This joker rose up and said, we will have no

  546. king but God, and we are not going to pay

  547. a foreign government taxes. You need to realize that this

  548. is intrumental into the rise of those four beasts. This

  549. will happen during the birth pangs. If you don't have

  550. to like it, it is going to happen, and this

  551. is going to trigger things. And this is one of

  552. the things that I'm sorry that all of you may

  553. not know this, but the false prophet is watching for

  554. these things. Do you want to know why he's not

  555. like you? He knows the Bible. He don't believe it,

  556. he knows it. He knows it on the order of, well,

  557. how would you translate that into today's jargon. I assure

  558. you he has a doctorate in Old Testament and New

  559. Testament theology. He don't believe the Bible, he knows it.

  560. He's not like you, and he certainly isn't like me.

  561. You need to understand what's going to happen to him.

  562. He already knows what's going to happen, and he already

  563. knows that the devil himself will make him his advocate.

  564. Let me say that again in English. He knows that

  565. the devil is going to take him into the wilderness

  566. and tempt him exactly like he did the Lord Jesus Christ.

  567. And guess what, the Syrian false prophet will accept the author.

  568. And you know, I really don't care if you know

  569. this or not. I don't care. You've probably got so

  570. much dispensational scarring on your psyche. I can't help you.

  571. But I do want you to tell this to your children,

  572. because they're important. Your children are not susceptible to your sins,

  573. Thank God. I would hope that your children you will

  574. not allow to be deceived by the preticist. I would

  575. hope that you would give a plain reading to the Bible,

  576. God's Holy Word to your children. And if you do,

  577. the natural outcome will be a plane reading prophecy model.

  578. And if the Bible plainly says repeatedly up to six

  579. times in one chapter that there's going to be a

  580. literal millennial reign of the Lord Jesus Christ, that's what

  581. they're going to believe you're not going to be able

  582. to deceive them that there's no such thing. So do

  583. you need to teach these things to your children because

  584. these things are the most important thing, because this is

  585. what the Lord Jesus Christ did to his own disciples. Okay,

  586. people that was in the boat with him that day

  587. when he rebuked the winds and the waves, they stopped.

  588. Those very same people. Do you know he personally told

  589. them the contents of Matthew chapter twenty four. So if

  590. the Lord Jesus Christ taught these things to his very

  591. own disciples, you need to teach them to your own children.

  592. Whether you understand it or not. You know, you need

  593. to start having family church. Okay, if you'd like to

  594. know what this family, how this family raised our children

  595. was with family church every night, and we read it

  596. in the Bible. That's what we did. No commentary from daddy.

  597. I didn't give any sermons. Mommy wasn't allowed to throw

  598. her two cents in. We just read the Bible and

  599. then if the kids want to talk about what happened,

  600. we would talk about what happened, and in doing so

  601. they have received a plane reading prophecy model. It makes

  602. sense to them, because guess what, the Lord Jesus Christ

  603. did not inscribe his word to confuse you. That's not

  604. what he did. That's not why he wrote it. He

  605. did not write it to confuse you. I mean, let's

  606. talk about Daniel. Chapter eight. I want you to write

  607. this down. In verse seventeen, nineteen, twenty three, and twenty six,

  608. it's plainly said that this vision does not pertain to

  609. the Persian Empire. It says, this pertains to a Persian

  610. empire at the end of time. That's why the chapter

  611. finishes with Daniel being confused. Excuse me, that's right. Read

  612. it for yourself. I'm not lying to you. The very

  613. last verse and that chapter says that Daniel and everybody

  614. else was confused. You want to know why because what

  615. Gabriel was telling them, and I say them for a reason.

  616. Read the whole chapter and believe it. This time, it

  617. lamely says at the beginning of the chapter and at

  618. the end of the chapter that Daniel told everybody all

  619. about it, and everybody was confused because what it meant

  620. was this, Why would the Angel of the Lord say

  621. that there's going to be a Persian empire at the

  622. end of days. So look, if someone's told you that

  623. prophecy has already been fulfilled, write this down Daniel eighth, seventeen,

  624. nineteen twenty three, twenty six. Those verses bear testimony against you.

  625. So when you get to this chapter, if you're doing

  626. family church with your children, just read the plain text

  627. of Daniel chapter eight. Your children will understand it. Do

  628. not try to deceive them with the commentary of these

  629. god eighty doctorates. This is important. You need to know this.

  630. You need to know that everything that I've talked about

  631. and Jennifer disgusting, it's true. And you better teach your

  632. children to expect it because it's going to come. There

  633. will be two different kinds of Antichrist. There will be

  634. those who will claim to be the son of David

  635. and those who claim to be the son of jewsh

  636. of Joshua, And you need to know that. Can we

  637. get a volunteer to pray us out of here, please? Somebody? Anybody? Yes?

  638. No?

  639. Yeah, okay, all right, before we go, Does anybody have

  640. any questions or anything else they want to talk about?

  641. Because this is fellowship, so you're allowed to yell at me,

  642. scream at me, ask me questions, we can go off

  643. topic and topic other topic. Anybody have anything they want

  644. to talk about? Going once, going twice?

  645. Hey, Hello, Yes, okay, I had one quick question, but

  646. it probably won't be quick, but I did want to

  647. ask why David got in such trouble for taking a

  648. census that one time. In second Samuel, well, we don't

  649. have to talk about it now, but I was.

  650. Just okay, Well I will quickly answer you. But yes,

  651. this is another thing that I've been working on. We

  652. need to do an episode entitled The Enumerated and the Innumerable.

  653. But we need to realize that the census in basically

  654. numbers one through three. You have to read all three chapters.

  655. The Levites are separated and God is and God commands

  656. them not to number them. Then later he says, now

  657. take a census of them, but I am taking the

  658. Levites in exchange the firstborn, right. So David gets caught

  659. up in this quagmire and he is trying to use

  660. this census for something else. You understands he is trying

  661. to number the army. He is trying to only number

  662. those who are to go to war. And you don't

  663. do this because his intention was to go to war

  664. that was not why God commanded it. God really didn't care.

  665. And God was not doing the census in order to

  666. go to war. He was only stating those who could

  667. go to war. David was inverting God's census. Okay, okay,

  668. thank you, thank You're welcome. The whole purpose of the census.

  669. If you read those three chapters, you figure out that

  670. what God was doing was creating pamps around the tabernacle

  671. of the Lord by God. That's what he states that

  672. you have to go with this. This is they had

  673. Hauncho and they're supposed to be camped on the east,

  674. or on the west, or on the south. YadA, YadA, YadA.

  675. David had inverted that and he was numbering it so

  676. he could go to war. So that's a bad thing. Okay,

  677. we will talk more about that later. Thanks for the question.

  678. Yes we will some I'm in the future. We're going

  679. to have to do that. The enumerated and the innumerable,

  680. because this is the answer to Revelation chapter seventeen and

  681. fourteen or seventeen. That's funny, Matthew. Revelation chapter seven and

  682. Revelation chapter fourteen. That's the answer to that equation. Anybody else,

  683. any other questions, going once, going twice, third times a charm. Okay, Jennifer,

  684. can you pray us out of here? Please?

  685. Yep, our Father, who are in heaven, hallowed be thy name,

  686. the Kingdom comes, They will be done on earth as

  687. it is in Heaven. Give us the stay, our daily bread,

  688. and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who

  689. trespass against us. Lead us not into temptation but deliverance.

  690. For Mabel, For Thine is the Kingdom and the Power

  691. and the Glory forever and ever.

  692. Amen, Amen and Amen. Until next time, ladies and gentlemen,

  693. God bless godspeed.

  694. Thank you for listening to Marinath the Ministries with Matthew Miller.

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  700. god fearing, Bible believing, gospel preaching Christian, please repeat after me.

  701. I pledge allegiance to the Bible, God's Holy Word. I

  702. will make it a lamp unto my feet, and a

  703. light into my path. It's your words while I hide

  704. in my heart, that I might not sin against God

  705. an imp