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Episode 78: Desiring Holy Order

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  1. In the name of the glorious Trinity, Father and Son and Holy

  2. Spirit forever. Amen.

  3. Glory be to the everlasting mercies which sent you to us, O

  4. Christ, the light of the world and the life of all.

  5. Give us wisdom by your law and enlighten our impulses by your

  6. knowledge. Sanctify our souls by your

  7. truth, and grant that we may be obedient to your words and may

  8. fulfil your commandments at every hour.

  9. O you who enlightens the rationale with the knowledge of

  10. your greatness, do enlighten, my Lord, our thoughts, that we may

  11. meditate upon your holy and divine scriptures at all times,

  12. O Lord of all, Father and Son and Holy Spirit forever.

  13. Amen. bless you.

  14. I love the music. This is a second take, guys.

  15. You know what happened when I when we first did this and I

  16. sang We have a light here and it just illumined.

  17. So I think it was the light was inspiredly moved and it was you

  18. know, yeah, Robbie, what do I need to do to become an acolyte,

  19. A clergyman, a pre lading the church.

  20. Beautiful question. Very, very very.

  21. You know a good question and I, you know constantly receive the

  22. you know I'm asked these questions Robbie what do I need

  23. to do to become a Clyde clergyman prelate or in the

  24. church. Let's just take it one step at

  25. our time right. I remember I was during the the

  26. the wedding services, the wedding ceremonies.

  27. There is a prayer that the final benediction on the bridegroom

  28. and we say that may sons come forth from your loins and and

  29. I'm sorry, May God bless you with sons and may priests come

  30. forth from your loins. So every bridegroom that is

  31. blessed on his wedding day in the Assyrian Church of the East,

  32. this prayer is set or preyed upon.

  33. That bridegroom. You know, it resonates with me

  34. because my father was blessed and married in the Assyrian

  35. Church of the East and the same prayer was or the same blessing

  36. was wistowed. And here I am to them not

  37. meaning that everyone's gonna be a priest.

  38. And I remember one day when I after I finished the ceremony

  39. and you know I gave a 5 minute channel, I said, my dear

  40. bridegroom, I forgot the name. Did you hear what what I prayed

  41. what we what we prayed for you. What we ask the Lord to bless

  42. you with is one day hopefully you have a son And he became a

  43. comes a priest. He goes, hey Rabi Patriarch, I

  44. said relax. First let's let's let's go over

  45. the priestly hurdle and then God willing, patriarch.

  46. So yeah that's a very, very nice question.

  47. Very valid question and a question that I'd like to hear

  48. from many of my brothers within the church.

  49. And if you are asking that question, this episode is for

  50. you. And maybe the you are not asking

  51. this question, but this episode can help you answer those who

  52. are asking the question. Again, Robbie, what do I need to

  53. do to become an acolyte, A clergyman or a prelate in the

  54. church? Well, it begins from the heart.

  55. It begins in the heart and it must come from the heart.

  56. And not just emotions, not a one moment desire.

  57. Because you see someone receiving an order in the church

  58. like monkey see monkey do. And I've had those, those

  59. emotional urges. I want to become a priest.

  60. I want to become a Bishop. Why?

  61. I'm sorry. I want to become a Deacon.

  62. Why? Because your friend becomes a

  63. Deacon. Well, you know what that that

  64. could be a a, a calling, a movement of the spirit.

  65. But it it shouldn't be something that is for pride or vain pride

  66. when it's from the heart and a genuine desire which only the

  67. Lord can determine. Then we are told in Proverbs

    Proverbs 16:9

  68. chapter 16, verse 9, the heart of a man plans his ways.

  69. So you put things in your heart. I want to do this.

  70. I put in my heart that I want to become.

  71. I want to receive a church order, a holy order.

  72. So the heart, your heart has planned this.

  73. But the Lord God orders the steps.

  74. So God has to take, then take over, and God has to maneuver

  75. and set the path for this. Then if what is coming from the

  76. heart is a genuine desire to serve the Lord, then it must be

  77. for the glory of God and the glory of God only.

  78. One Corinthians 1031 You shall do everything for the glory of

  79. God, Not because my grandfather was, or my great grandfather

  80. was, or my uncle was. No, it must be I want for the

  81. glory of God and salvation of souls, which is the will of God

  82. that you want to glorify with your servanthood in the Church.

  83. In one Timothy chapter 2, verse four, we read He Who wills that

  84. all people shall have life, life in Jesus Christ for salvation

  85. and shall be converted to the knowledge of the truth.

  86. This is what this must be. The intention, the motive, the

  87. desire for you to be desiring to be wanting to receive the holy

  88. orders to serve God for the glory of God and the salvation

  89. of souls. Now having these prerequisites,

  90. and there are many more, there is one important factor to

  91. always keep in mind, and that is, it's not about I or you or

  92. he. I don't choose.

  93. You don't choose, but Christ does, as he indicates to his

  94. disciples in John chapter 15, verse 16.

    John 15:16

  95. You have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and I have

  96. appointed you so that you also will go bring forth fruit, and

  97. your fruit will remain. See, there is the desire.

  98. I have a desire, but it's Christ who chooses and elects and

  99. brings to fruition That desire and that desire is to go and

  100. bring forth fruit. What is that One fruit that the

  101. Lord desires and is totally appeased and pleased with is the

  102. salvation of souls. Now one question I ask is, do

  103. you know what you are requesting and what you are, what it

  104. entails? Do you know what you are

  105. desiring? Do you know The Who, the what,

  106. the where, the how's of this gift that you are desiring to

  107. receive to be graciously given to you?

  108. And do you know again that this gift that you are graciously

  109. desiring, when it is graciously given to you, it is only for you

  110. to use to share the love and grace of God with others.

  111. Do you know where it's from? It's not about the person

  112. ordaining. It's not about the tribe.

  113. It's not about the church that you will be ordained in.

  114. No where does it come from? Do you know?

  115. Well, James chapter one, verse 17.

  116. Every good and perfect gift descends from above.

  117. It's God. You're asking God.

  118. Lord, give me Lord. I desire Lord, I am praying for

  119. you, for the Father of lights, He goes on with whom there is no

  120. change nor a shadow of variation.

  121. And that's why saying Timothy writes in his first epistle,

  122. chapter 3 verses 8 to 10 to those who have or are going to

  123. receive these gifts. In this way also, he writes,

  124. deacons or ministers should be pure, and should not double

  125. speak, neither be inclined to much wine drunkardness, nor love

  126. defiled riches, gambling, But they should hold the mystery of

  127. the faith in a pure conscience. The mysteries of the faith

  128. should be held in faith and pure conscience, and those who are

  129. such should be first proved and then let them serve, being

  130. without fault. So it's just not just about I

  131. want to do this. But first and foremost, do you

  132. approve yourself? Have you examined your motive,

  133. your heart? Have you examined where you are

  134. in your relationship with God? We spoke about that last

  135. episode, and again Second Timothy, chapter 2, verse 2425.

    2 Timothy 2 chapter mention

  136. But a servant of our Lord ought not to fight, but to be humble

  137. toward every person. Not a doormat.

  138. Not a doormat, but not to fight and be ready to take vengeance?

  139. No. But be ready to give an answer,

  140. and to defend yourself when it's the truth, but not in fighting

  141. with a humble spirit. But the servant of our Lord

  142. ought not to fight. Ought not to fight, but to be

  143. humble toward every person, instructive and long-suffering,

  144. that he may instruct with humility those who dispute

  145. against him. Humility.

  146. So this is what what a a person or a candidate who is being

  147. ordained. This is his oath of office.

  148. When he is reading this. We're too busy with the pictures

  149. and selfies and maybe, you know, the parents are so overwhelmed

  150. and you know, people are just so excited because there's a

  151. friend, a brother and someone who's in the church receiving

  152. rankings. But honestly, we should be

  153. listening to this so that one day we can remind the person.

  154. So it's all my brother deacons out there and the lectors and

  155. the subdeacons. Just a friend, really reminder

  156. this is what you signed up to. This is what you promised God

  157. before his Holy altar, the Bishop or the patriot or the

  158. Metropolitan, that you received the orders from the right hand.

  159. This is what you promised the congregation.

  160. You say you have said this as I have been made worthy and

  161. selected or chosen to receive the rank of the Akonite.

  162. I promise I will be a servant in the vineyard of Christ.

  163. I will serve in all faithfulness, obedience, and

  164. humility. I promise I will fulfill the

  165. service of the diaconate. We're not going to go to into

  166. what it is, But just as a reminder, I promise that I will

  167. fulfill the service of the diaconate.

  168. I will preserve myself in fasting and prayer and virtues,

  169. Shapiro dubare. I will be an example, a good

  170. example to those within and those without equally.

  171. This is the prompt. This is the both of the office.

  172. This one is in particular to the to the akinate.

  173. Now, one other important factor to remember at all times when we

  174. desire and want to approach these holy orders.

  175. And I'll give you a a rundown of what you know sequentially what

  176. we need to do when we want this. One thing very important to

  177. remember is that the rankings, the orders of the Church have

  178. all been sanctified and fulfilled by Christ himself

  179. during His ministry on earth. Let's take the order of the

  180. Lecter or the reader Karuya. What does the Karuya do?

  181. The Lecter. He reads the Old Testament, that

  182. is from the Law or the Prophets. You know the the liturgy of the

  183. of the Divine Liturgies. Usually it's a reading from the

  184. Law, and then immediately after there's a reading from the

  185. prophets. But now we just read the one

  186. reading either the Law or the Prophets.

  187. So the reader or the Lecter Aruya reads from the Law or the

  188. Prophets and the Acts of the Apostles before the

  189. congregation. Nothing about trying to, you

  190. know, show how well you read this, the Assyrian language.

  191. Nothing about clapping. I remember was I was in a

  192. church. I can't remember where the

  193. reader or the Lecter read his his election and the family

  194. clapped. I turned around and said no,

  195. this is not about applauding someone.

  196. Did you listen to what he read? There's instructions in these

  197. readings, right? It's not about that.

  198. It's about fulfilling what Jesus did.

  199. He already sanctified and fulfilled it.

  200. It's about doing what Christ did.

  201. Jesus served and sanctified this order when he was given the

  202. scroll of Isaiah the prophet Luke.

    Luke 4:16–17

  203. Chapter 4, verse 16 to 17. Read it.

  204. It's got nothing to do with how cute or how wealthy Assyrian

  205. language is. Oh, he's young.

  206. He's reading that. It's it's not a show.

  207. These are Holy Orders. They're instituted in the Divine

  208. Liturgy of Holy Urbana for the renewal and salvation of our

  209. souls. So let's begin with the ranking

  210. of the Lecter. When you read the election

  211. reading again, we may think it's only a reading.

  212. No, no, no. You're a part of that service on

  213. that Sunday or any other day where the Divine Liturgy of Holy

  214. Qurbana is being celebrated. You are a part of the renewal

  215. and the salvation of the souls of those who are listening to

  216. you. Wow, Wow.

  217. I just thought it was Ohm Shapir.

  218. Oh, you got a beautiful voice. Because you know why?

  219. You know why I just said that? That's how I used to perceive

  220. the diaconate. You have a nice voice.

  221. You should be a priest because you have a nice voice.

  222. But you know when God, very gently and lovely, slaps you in

  223. the face and says, no, no, no, no, no.

  224. You are a part of the renewal and the salvation of your soul

  225. and all those who you are serving.

  226. It's about serving the order of the Church established by Christ

  227. himself. So what are the steps?

  228. Let's go through the steps. Pray, pray, pray.

  229. And while praying, examine your intention and motives.

  230. Why do I want this? Consult your parish priest.

  231. Open your heart, Express your desire to the parish priest.

  232. Learn the Assyrian language. Many people who ask me that

  233. they'd like to approach the diaconate.

  234. So do you read Assyrian? No.

  235. Well, first and foremost, along with you're praying and

  236. examining, you need to learn the language.

  237. How you gonna serve when you don't know the language, the

  238. ancient Assyrian language, the Aramaic language and the

  239. vernacular attend services? Not just that Sunday.

  240. No attend Vespas. Slaughter Pramsha.

  241. Every person that has a ranking in the Church will tell you that

  242. that is the place where you learn when you grow in the

  243. liturgy. Because you're serving the

  244. liturgy. Remember Pasa.

  245. Attend slaughter. Pramsha Vespas, Attend the

  246. Matins slaughtered Lilia in the morning, attend the morning

  247. prayers, Slaughtered supper regularly.

  248. At first you may not know, you may not understand, you may be

  249. struggling. But I assure you, if the motive

  250. and the intent is to glorify God and to and for the salvation of

  251. the souls, you'll be amazed. Let me give you a living

  252. testimony. Not sure if I spoke about this

  253. when I was interviewed by Kristen when I was young.

  254. And I'm telling you young. I'm talking about 11 years old.

  255. My dad would say we'll go to church every Sunday.

  256. You need to go and sit with those people that are in front.

  257. I did. OK.

  258. Just a reminder. Save it.

  259. Thank you, my producer. Let me say.

  260. And I used to be frowned upon, but you know, it's just like

  261. last episode. If I didn't take a dive from the

  262. 4th platform, Creation might be as they say.

  263. I just used to sit there taking all the frownings and the

  264. looking down upon one day. And God is my witness now.

  265. I used to also, you know, study the Assyrian language.

  266. I used to go to the Assyrian school and my dad used to help

  267. me with reading. One day I opened, I opened the

  268. Book of the Hodra, the Circle. It is all in Leshanatita, in the

  269. ancient Assyrian, in the Aramaic language.

  270. I promise you, God is my witness.

  271. I started reading. I was.

  272. I wanted to get up and say I'm reading.

  273. And from that point onwards, little did I know that God was

  274. preparing this most foolish, most illiterate, weak servant

  275. that he was preparing. The reason why I said that, and

  276. I repeated it one more time, is that if your intent is right, if

  277. your motive is to glorify God and serve the Lord in his

  278. church, the Lord will help. You will be surprised.

  279. Now, I'm not saying that you're one day going to receive a

  280. miracle and you're going to start, you know, reading the

  281. Aramaic language. But then God works in mysterious

  282. ways, prays between his name. Attend Bible studies.

  283. Now, unfortunately, I'm sorry, and I will call a spade a spade.

  284. I will not defend the indefensible.

  285. But at times we forget that those who are being trained to

  286. receive orders. All we concentrate on is Lishana

  287. Tikka. Lishana tikka.

  288. Learn the Lishana Tikka. Oh, he's reading so fluently.

  289. But what about knowing the Christ that this young man will

  290. be serving? Attend Bible studies, read the

  291. Holy Scriptures, read the lives of the holy Saints again while

  292. you're praying and examining your heart and consulting your

  293. parish priests, learning the language, attending the

  294. services, attending Bible studies and consult with other

  295. acolytes, other deacons, and see what the lifestyle is like.

  296. What are the challenges? What are the downfalls, if there

  297. is any? What are the the difficulties

  298. and how do you overcome that? And most importantly, most

  299. importantly, prepare for a lifetime, a life changing, a

  300. serious and genuine commitment. It's a lifetime commitment,

  301. beloved. If you receive the order or the

  302. rank at the age of 16, when you stand before the Lord at the age

  303. of 116 gazillion years, you will have to give an account because

  304. it's a gift. A gift that was purchased by the

  305. Precious Blood of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ on the

  306. cross. We will give that account.

  307. We will be held accountable. And lastly, no, actually, second

  308. last, be prepared to serve the church again for the glory of

  309. God and salvation of others, and wait for the Lord.

  310. Wow, that's nine according to the 9 rankings of the church.

  311. Wait for the Lord. Not your time, not your priest's

  312. timing, not the Bishop's timing. No, no, no, the timing of the

  313. Lord. Psalm 46, chapter 10.

  314. Return and know that I am God, or in some versions, be still

  315. and know that I am God. Praise and glory be to his holy

  316. name, now and at all times and forever.

  317. Amen. We hope you enjoyed this week's

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