S2E59 Hosea 2:16-23

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Welcome to the program. We are your host jose and Matthew. Tonight,

we're getting back to the Book of the Twelve. We're

going to be diving deeper into Hoseah chapter two, and

the Septuagint takes well, it takes a completely different turn here.

We're going to get our feet wet in another part

of the Bible that well, it's just it's unsettling. It

really is unsettling some of the frost references that these

verses go to. But it is interesting to me that

that's let me explain something to everybody. The Hebrew New Testament,

what Delich did. That is for the Old Testament prophecies.

Just so you know, and you also need to know this,

The Old Testament Greek is for the New Testament prophecies.

If you didn't know that, if you were just now

made aware of that fact, you have so much you

could learn, You have so much you could learn. You know,

today I was I was talking with someone born and

raised in the church one more time, born and raised

in the church.

And.

They didn't understand what people were saying. While I'm mid

trib I'm you know, pre mill I'm post trib had

no idea what they were talking about. They had no idea.

I had to explain to them that the very basics

of eschatology, of this first step is tribulationism. Now all

depending on where you were raised. Now it's quite possible

you could be like Jose's case. Jose really wasn't taught

anything about aschatology. But you need to know this, This

is a true statement. Many of the church doesn't believe

there's ever going to be a great tribulation. They quite

simply don't believe it. They believe that what happened with

the Temple destruction in seventy eight, that was the answer

to all the New Testament prophecies. So that's the first

thing you need to understand, is tribulationism. Do you believe

in it or not? I mean, if you take out

the Book of Revelation and does the rest of the

New Testament tell you unequivocably the Church of the Lord

Jesus Christ is in for a hammering before he gets back.

I mean, either you believe it or you don't. The

other leg, because there's two legs, is millennialism. This comes

as shock to a lot of people after Church doesn't

believe there's such thing it's a millennial reign of Christ.

They never think that Christ will come here physically and

set up a physical kingdom over humanity. They completely reject

Revelation chapter twenty, and it's completely rejected. So you need

to know that there's many people that we talk about

as chatology they don't even know. But you need to

know those the two legs true tribulationism, either you believe

it or not. There's going to be a great tribulation

or there's not. And millennialism, you believe there's going to

be a millennial reign of Christ or not. And if

you don't at least know those things, maybe you've read

the Bible. And that's what was the case, was this

person they had read the Bible cover to cover and

they've actually come to the correct conclusion because the Bible

presents the plain reading prophecy model. The plain reading of

the text produces exactly what all Christians believed for the

first three hundred years of Christianity. Of course, there's a

great tribulation that's on the way. That's what the Lord

Jesus Christ said that, that's what he said. Of course,

there's going to be a millennial reign of Christ. That's

what he said. So if you are a student of

Bible prophecy and you know what you believe, I'm here

to tell you that if you didn't know what I aforementioned,

there's a ton of informations you just quite simply don't

know yet.

Right, jose Correct, Matthew.

They just don't understand what's actually there. They just don't

understand what's actually there. So what's your opening comments about

this short little bit of scripture from the septuagen jose.

Well, Matthew, I mean, growing up in the church, I'd

always heard the Gospels referring to Jesus as the bridegroom,

and of course as to the Us as the bride. Right,

that's what we're aiming for. So again, it wasn't until

I really started getting in too serious Bible study with

you in Marianathan ministries that, of course I came across

passages like this, Matthew, were and the Old Testament God

was saying was calling himself the husband. Right, That's just

not how growing up as a Christian, how I thought

about God, even though of course that's what we think about.

The son and the Father and the son are one.

So this is where you know, if if if people

haven't been understanding the role that God plays with his people,

how serious it is, Matthew, how serious he equates idolatry

with adultery. It's it's for this very same reason, Matthew,

when we commit to the Lord the Father and the

Lord the Son, it's it's exactly like a marriage contract, Matthew.

It's exactly like we're saying, he is our husband, and

now he we it's in his house that we reside,

and they're they're you know, just as as a marriage

has has serious consequences for straying outside of those bounds,

it's the same way with God and his people, Matthew.

And so when you go reading through this, not only

is that reinforced, but now he's he's giving you even

more detail for how that's going to lay out, you know,

with his son, Matthew. So this is just again The

only way I can explain it is it's more de

God's already told us this before, and he's told us

over and over and over, and all he's doing here

is just giving us more information, reinforcing what he's already

told us, reinforcing what his son has told us. And

again Matthew just giving us detailed, detailed information about what

is to come. And it's a beautiful thing. Every time

I read the Bible, that's it. This is what God

always shows me.

And you know how many people realize that Matthew twenty

two is so vitally important to end time Bible prophecy,

because the parable of the marriage is what's going to happen, right,

it is what's going to happen. And in that parable, Jose,

do you ever see the sun? No, you never see him,

Ladies and gentlemen, you never see him. You never see him.

When's the last time you read it? Okay? Because this

is how that parable ends verse thirteen with Matthew Chapter

twenty two. Then the game said to the attendants, buying

the hands of feet, and carry him out and cap

me to the outer darkness creeping. A nation of teith

will be there for many are cold, but few are chosen.

You should be able to at least understand this. This

is when God is planning on building his temple with you,

and the sun never shows up. You never. This is

a marriage banquet that you never get the witness, do you, Jose?

It's not here? No, so man so much. And you're

right with this short burst of in information here in

the latter part of Jose chapter two. And like I said,

some of the cross references just well, we're just gonna

have to get to it and and just just get

dirty with it. So are you going to read this

week or you want me to read? Yeah?

I can read Matthew, Okay, do love a lot of verses,

so hopefully I can handle it.

Amen, all right, So I'm.

Reading out of the Lexum English septuagen. We're in Hosea

chapter two, and I'm going to read from verse sixteen

to the end. And they will be in that day,

says the Lord. She will call me my husband, and

she will no longer call me ball. And I will

remove the names of the balls from her mouth, and

the names will not be remembered again. And I will

establish a treaty with them in that day with the

beasts of the field, and with the birds of the heavens,

and the reptiles of the land. And I will crush

bow and sword and battle from the land. And I

will establish you in hope. And I will betrothe you

to me for eternity. And I will betrothe you to

me in righteousness and in judgment, and with mercy, and

with compassionate feelings. And I will betrothe you to me

in trust, and you will recognize the Lord. And it

will be in that day, says the Lord. I will

listen to the heavens, and it will listen to the earth,

and the earth will listen to the grain and the

wine and the olive oil, and they will listen to Jezreel.

And I will sow her for myself upon the land.

And I will love her who has not loved. And

I will say to not my people, you are my people.

And he will say you are the Lord, my God.

Good stuff, yes, of very good stuff. What sticks out to.

You, Well, just that transition, man, you from ball or

master to husband. We I think most of us, you know,

in our minds, can can comprehend God being our master.

He created us. We're supposed to follow his commandments. You know,

we're we're here because at because of His will. So

you know, it's it's it's almost in essence like a father, right,

And we can understand that concept of you know, I'm

gonna I'm gonna follow the commandments. You know, I'm gonna

read my Bible, I'm gonna say my prayers. I'm gonna

be a Christian because God has commanded me to do that.

And that resonates for a lot of us that grew

up as Christians, Matthew. But just as hard as it

is for for a man, especially to understand that he's

going to be the bride to the bridegroom, to understand

that God says that he is going to be our husband,

that's just you know that that when I first started

to understand that concept, Matthew, blew my mind that this

is how God looks at us. And of course, you know,

in our flesh, we we look at the at the

the carnal natural meanings of being a husband. But obviously

that's not what God is talking about. He's talking about

our husband as in a spiritual sense, a true connection,

a true bond, a true marriage, a true becoming of

one like a husband and a wife, a bride in

a bridegroom. But still, you know, when you first start

to realize this is what God wants, it goes way beyond,

you know, just following the ten commands. Matthew, That's that's

what strikes me when I when I read this chapter

or this set of verses.

Here, what is in play here is the cleaving. Yes,

we as a body will be cloven to Christ. The

two will become one flesh.

Amen. Amen.

So we also need to understand this that Jeremiah chapter

eight is very clear. Obviously, this is still being practice,

has always been practiced quite simply. The balls here, the

baulin here, make no mistakes about it. Ladies and gentlemen.

What's being talked about here is the worshiping of the

princes of heaven. Jeremiah chapter Eight's very clear, and there

is no doubt that this is what especially the wealthy

people on this planet do. This is what they do,

that's what they've done. They worship these seventy princes. Make

no mistakes about it. And you have to realize that

there is coming a time when that system of authority

is done away with. It's completely done away with. And

this is prophetically hinting at that you know this, I

like how verse seventeen puts it here, and I will

remove the names of the balls from her mouth. This

triggers remembrancers with meay, Exodus twenty three thirteen, you shall

observe all the things that I've said to you, and

you shall not bring the name of other gods the mind.

It will not even be heard coming out of your mouth.

Of course, we know that what this details here is

that the original Covenant was just violated and violated and

violated and violated and violated until God just rejected. Here,

he's obviously alluding to the new Covenant. That's why these

verses say what they say, Joshua twenty three, verse seven,

so that you might not go to these nations left behind,

and the names of their gods will not be remembered

among you. Neither shall you in any way bow down

to them or serve them. Here again is direct phraseology,

straight taking you straight to Jeremiah chapter eight. What happened

when they fall? And jose they will fall, they will

be here during the tribulation. One third of the host

of heaven will be here. So my last cross references.

Most people know these verses, but they don't know it

from the Subtuagan. In the Subtiligent, this is Psalms fifteen.

In the Hebrew Psalm sixteen. I'm going to read this

stands of from the Septuagin. Now, like I said, if

you've got a Hebrew based Bible, you want to turn

to the next chapter. You want to turn to Psalm sixteen.

But in the Septuagent this is Psalm fifteen. Bardmeo, Lord,

because upon you I place my hope. Now take note, Jose.

Chapter two just said that you would be established in hope. Right, Jose,

you remember that? Right? So yes, put this in your

back pocket. I said to the Lord, you are my lord.

Here you go again. This phraseology is coming from phrases

said from the wife to the husband verse three. To

the holy ones who are in his earth, he magnified

all his decrees among them, their weakness was increased. After

these things, they were quickened. I will not gather their

gatherings from murderers, nor will I ever remember their names

on my lips. Once I read that opening stanza from

the Subtuagen, you would think it is literally talking about

the same exact thing. Josea chapter two, starting in verse

fifteen sixteen is talking about. It is, isn't it Jose.

Yeah, Matthew, I mean even just right off the bat,

you know that it points you right to there.

What these verses are saying. This is obviously in reference

to the angels who fell in Genesis chapter six. That is, yes,

it is, and it disturbs people. Whenever you compare these two,

the Hebrew and the Mysoretic text, take note when we

go there and read that from the Hebrew, it's you're

left scratching your head. You're like, wait a minute, how

are these to this different? But they are. I'll read

it from the New King James version that says this,

preserve me, o God, for in you I put my trust.

Oh my soul, you have said to the Lord you

are my Lord, My goodness is nothing apart from you.

For the saint tour in the year. They are the

excellent ones in whom is my delight. Their sorrow shall

be multiplied. Who he is an actor another god who

drink offerings of blood. I will not offer, nor will

I take their names on my lips. So if you

go to translate this from the Hebrew. You can quickly

see how the new King James version is playing with

the Hebrew words here, and yes, this is one way

you can interpret this. However, the Septuagint, there's no wishy washiness.

The Coinia Greek is exacting. It's very exacting. So it's

very disturbing when you realize what you're looking at here.

It makes you say, hey, what does the rest of

Psalm fifteen says? What does the rest of it say?

It must be pretty important. It's only eleven verses long,

and it's in its totality. But now that I bring

it out to you, you're setting there thinking, wait a minute.

Either Psalms fifteen is written off of Josea chapter two

starting in verse sixteen, or the other way around. Something's

going on here. So Jose, why don't you get over

to the Septuagint Psalm fifteen? Why don't you read all

eleven verses?

Okay?

Because I think it's got information we should see in it.

All right? So Psalm fifteen a Psalm of David guard

me O Lord, because on you I placed my hope.

I said to the Lord, you are my Lord, to

the holy ones who are in his earth. He magnified

all his decrees among them. Their weaknesses were in priest.

After these things, they were quickened. I will not gather

their gatherings from murders, nor will I ever remember their

names through my lips. The Lord is the portion of

my inheritance and of my cup. You are the one

who restores my inheritance to me. The measured portions fell

upon me in the best ways for my inheritance is

also best for me. I will bless the Lord, the

one who causes me to understand. Moreover, during the night,

my mind trained me. I saw the Lord in front

before me through everything, because he is from my right side,

that I would not be shaken. On account of this,

my heart was cheerful, and my tongue rejoiced exceedingly. Moreover,

my flesh will dwell in hope because you will not

abandon my soul in hades, nor will you give your

holy One to see destruction. You have made known to

me the ways of life. You will make me full

of cheer with your face. There are delights at your

right side.

Completely hurt some of those things before, haven't we Ho.

Was a absolutely Matthew.

Who will not be abandoned in haydens these things. Once

you bring these things up, you realize, wait a minute, boy,

these eleven verses were quite powerful. What's your impression of

Psalm fifteen?

Now, I mean, Matthew, this is It's just so clear, Matthew,

when you understand what's gonna happen, right, how God's going

to punish those angels that have been not doing their job,

that have been misleading not only God's people, but also

of course the rest of the inhabitants of the earth,

causing them to sin, causing them to cause hate and

destruction and evil in the world. Right, God's gonna judge them.

They're They're not going to get away with it, Matthew.

I couldn't even begin to fathom why they think they

could get away with this, or or why they would

even attempt it. But but that is what's happening, Matthew.

And God's told us that he's going to correct, He's

going to make this earth straight, He's going to make

his people straight, and in doing so, these figs are

going to fall from the vine. You know, Matthew. We

did that study on First Kings eighteen where Elijah challenges

the prophets of ball and and again of course they're

defeated and Elijah himself slaughters the prophet's a ball. He

takes them down to the brook Kishon to execute them there.

And when we did that study, we described that as

the angels being kicked out of heaven. You know that

that brook Kishon being the river in the heavens in

the milky way, right, this is God's a description of

how it's going to take place. And so, I mean

it's it's when you go through that chapter. I mean

you even have Elijah, you know, running to jezz Reel,

so so you know, I'm just just how just how

all these chapters tied together, Matthew, so so so tightly.

They're so tightly wound that you can't help. But if

you just read your Bible, Matthew, you just can't help.

But remember when God's told you this before. And yeah,

maybe when the first time you went through first King's

eighteen you didn't quite understand what he was talking about.

But by the time you get to Psalm fifteen, and

then by the time you get to Joseah chapter two,

and then you get to the book Revelation. Now when

you go back to read First Kings eighteen. Now it

all is going to it's all going to start to click, Matthew,

It's all going to start to make sense that God's

been telling us his plan from the beginning if we

would just slow down and you know, listen, so that

that's just a yeah, I'm gonna have to read through

versus are Psalms fifteen again because it is clearly saying

the same thing, Matthew that we read in Joseah chapter two.

Absolutely, Like I said, you can't separate the two. One

is a commentary off the other.

Yeah, yeah, that's that phrase, right, rescue, but do not

abandon my soul in hades? What what is that talking about, Matthew?

Yep?

Is that David saying that, Matthew.

That's certainly not David, right exactly exactly. You know, Rachel

and I got tied up in this a little bit

earlier today doing our Romans Bible study, which ladies and

gentlemen's not available on the program you're getting now, It's

only available on our Patreon. That's just me and my wife.

But anyway, we dived into do gender eschatology in Romans

chapter four because you can't get around it stares you

in the face of the Greek. So what this is

all in lieua of what Jose is hinting to is

the gender esque patology from Revelation chapter twelve. Okay, there

are three groups. There is always three groups, and you're

one of them. You are either the woman, you are

the male child, or you are the rest of her

children's And what is being referenced here is the last group,

the rest of her children. So anyway, let's take a

look at the next verse, because this is kind of chilling.

It doesn't make any sense why he says it. Just

doesn't make any sense why he says it. Verse eighteen,

and I will establish a treaty with them in that day,

and you're just not expecting it. You're expecting him to say, well,

you know you enemies, right, No, no, no, that's not

what he says right here in this verse. It amazes me, how, Jose,

when you hear people talk about the tribulation, they speak

about it as if like the sky is still blue, right, right,

there's still seasons. Right, even during the worst time in history,

You're still going to have spring, summer, fall, and winter, right,

you all, You'll always have the promise of spring. Right always,

if you knew this verse way before you started studying

what the theologians, because let's let's not let's not mince

any words here. I know very few theologians that are

actually Christians, and I could prove that in the court

of law. I could prove in the court of law

they are children of the devil her first John, Chapter three. Amen,

jose Amen, Matthew. So this verse is really chill. Who

you're going to establish it? Who do you need to

set up a treaty with? And I will establish a

treaty with them in that day, with the beast of

the field, and with the birds of the heavens and

the reptiles of the land, and I will crush bow

and sword and rabble from the land, and I will

establish you in hope. Hey, there we go, ladies and gentlemen.

This is why you need to understand that Revelation. Chapter six,

verse eight says this. Okay, it says this. It said

it was given them to slay a fourth part of

the earth. Now, let's talk about that. There's eight billion

people here now, right, jose Yes, Matthew, Well, what's the

fourth of eight billion? Who billion? Ladies and gentlemen, two

billion people are going to die. Two billion. Hearken to

my voice. It was given to them to slay a

fourth part of the earth with sword, famine, affluence, and

with the wild beast of the earth. And let me

add to that, this the battle of Arnageddon. Who devours

all the corpses? Jose, Well, that's the birds of the heavens?

Right, Yes, it's amazing that once you see it's obvious

here what God is saying here is that.

One of the primary things that's going to happen during

the Great Tribulation is the.

Animal kingdom will no longer recognize Adam's dominion. Let me

say that again, right now, animals can be trained kind

of been trained.

By men, right hosing, Correct, Matthew, you better get ready

because when the writers ride, because they ride at the

behest of the four spirits of heaven. You could existentially

prove this with Daniel chapter seven, right hose.

Right.

This happens at the same time that Ezekiel tells us

that the same four spirits, it's the same four spirits

of heaven stir up the dry bones. This happens simultaneously.

Learned it before the tribulation even gets started. A courtier

of the population is going to be plain. In this way,

nature is going to rebel against man. There'll be no

more having dogs for pets, Jose.

Right.

There won't be any circus acts with lions and tigers

and bears in them. This is extremely important that you

know this, ladies and gentlemen, and Jose, how many people

have pets now here? Let me ask you a different,

a gross question. The question I'm going to ask you

is extremely offensive to me. It makes me gnash my

teeth because when I grew up in the seventies this

was unheard of. But now, how many people have dogs

instead of children? Jose?

Yeah, there's a lot of that going on, Matthew, Yes.

How many People's right? I mean, oh my goodness, boy,

I have to really bite my tongue. I can really

go off the rails right now, because I mean, I'll

just be forthright with you, Jose. It's gotten to the point,

I mean, the birth rate has crashed to the point

where really most of these couples in their twenties they

don't want kids, They want a million dollars, and they're

really together just for financial gain, correct, I mean let's

not buy right, yes, so you can imagine, ladies and gentlemen,

God's gonna turn this on its head. This is coming

and you need to know that this is tied to

your hope. You didn't understand that, did you, jose Let

me ask you something, so who outnumbers? Who is there

more birds or people on the planet?

I would assume birds, Matthew.

Oh, yes, by a gross number. Riddle me this. How

many canines are there compared to humans? Now? By way

of Cainine, I mean all of them. I mean coyotes, wolves, canines,

Ladies and gentlemen. You need to wake up. As far

as the animal kingdom is concerned, you are a minority.

There is easily enough sparrows in my yard right now

kill me. If they wanted to kill me, they could

if they would attack in one spirit, in one unison.

Let me ask Cosey if if if you had thirty

sparrows in concerts attack you and the first thing they

take out is your eyes, would it be possible for

those thirty birds to kill you?

Absolutely? Matthew, oh you, oh.

You better wake up. They could do it with the quickness.

You better figure this out. In the beginning the Lord

your God gave you dominion and the great tribulation. He's

gonna reneg on that promise, and they will rip you

to strengths because you have hated the Lord, their God.

You have hated him, and you have served and worshiped

his princes instead because they would give you favors. This

very day I had a conversation. There was a get together.

There was a fundraiser. Rachel and I went to it.

There was a free will offering breakfast. We went there.

Wealthy landowner was there, of course, and was quite concerned

because one of the springs on his land had went dry.

This that only happened twice in his life, and he's

in his eighties. And he said, in order to adequately

resupply the spring, to re pickstart the spring on his land,

he knew that we needed at least three inches a

week for two months. And so it sounds like we

need to pray for rain. He didn't say anything. His

wife chied and said, well, we need to do a

rain dance. Yes, what immediately come to my mind when

she said that, I looked at her and I thought

to myself, Wow, ain't that what the profits of mail did?

Ladies and gentlemen. If God says he's going to re

establish a treaty between you and the animal kingdom. If

you need to hint, you ain't got a clue. You

might want to get rid of your pets and start

cleaving to your grandchildren. I'm just letting you know ahead

of time, because Hoseah chapter two establishes the when the

White established the contexts for Revelation chapter six, first eight. Yes,

yes it does, Yes, it does. Now I mentioned the

birds of the heavens, right, where is that talked about

ladies and gentlemen in the Book of Revelation? Who is

it that? Well, it amazed me how people forget things.

I'll read to you verse seventeen from chapter nineteen, when

I saw an angel standing in the sun, and he

cried with a loud voice, saying to all the birds

that fly in the mid heaven come and gathered together

for the Great Supper.

Of Greek God.

Well, what do you know? The birds of heaven are

hearkening to the voice of one of the princes. If

you need a hint, you ain't got a clue. Let

me say that again. If you need a hint, you

ain't got a clue. Let's talk about Baylor. Riddle me, Jose,

how is it that Batim figured out that what there

was an ang you'll getting ready to killing? How do

you figure that out?

Yeah? His doggie had to tell them. Matthew.

You know.

A lot of people don't realize that one of the

good things you can get to protect the sheep or

any other type of cattle is a donkey. Did you

know that?

Yep, I got a friend that has that to protect

his cheap Matthew. Amen.

They don't play, do they?

No, they don't.

So I hopefully everybody's been able to put these verses

that I've given to you and aggregated them together, because

all this is coming from its event horizon was Jose

chapter two, So Ja it's it's o chapter two. So

these things are chilling to know that in the tribulation

we will no longer have dominion over the animal kingdom.

Well, Matthew, even before we get to that fourth seal

in chapter six of the Book of Revelation, you know,

when when all the heavens are declaring the lamb worthy

to open the seal, you have right there in verse thirteen,

what the what the creatures say about the Lamb right

mm mmmm, says every creature which is in heaven and

on the earth, and under the earth, and such as

are in the sea, and all of them on all

that are in them, I heard saying, blessing and honor

and glory and power be to him who sits on

the throne. Add to the Lamb forever and ever. Then

the four living creatures said, Amen. So to me, Matthew,

that's exactly what I just read in Hoseah chapter two,

God making that treaty, making that covenant with the beasts

of the field, the birds of the air, all this stuff. Matthew,

this is just it. And then and then we get

the forced seal, like you explained, a reworking of what

God the order God said in the beginning. So again, Matthew,

this is this is nothing we haven't heard before. But

God just continually continually gives us more and more detail,

reinforcing what He's already said and and not giving us

an excuse to play dumb. Matthew. We know what's coming,

we know what's going to happen. So to ignore God's commandments,

to ignore the beatitudes, and not act like a Christian,

it's just you know where we're We're sealing our own

fate if we do that, Matthew.

We are sealing our own fate. You know, I think

it's apropos that we pause for a second and just

ask this question. So, Jose, this is a true statement

that at the end the Lord Jesus Christ says he's

going to separate the sheep from the goats. Amena, Riddle

me this, Jose. Is are the goats in his flock?

Yes? They are, Matthew.

Did you hear that? Ladies and gentlemen. They might call

themselves Baptist, right, Jose. Right, they may call themselves Orthodox,

they might call themselves Episcopalian, but make no mistakes about it,

they call themselves the same thing you do. So wow,

fifteen more minutes to go, and we've just got tons

of stuff to cover. How does that happen? Jose?

How does that happen? All?

Right? Let me let me we we before before I come. Well,

let me just read it, okay, Verse nineteen of A

Jose Chapter two. And I will betrothed you to me

for eternity. And I will betroth you to me in

righteousness and in judgment, and with mercy, and with compassionate feelings.

So he just said, there's going to be an eternity, right, Jose, Yes,

So this is what is to come after the millennial

reign of Christ. Right, he will recreate the heavens and

and earth, and we will be the troth to him

in eternity. Because here is when God, the Father says

in the Book of Revelation that he will go from

tabernacling over us Revelation chapter seven. Right. The Greek is

very exacting. It says in Revelation chapter seven, when gathered

to the tabernacle of David, that he will tabernacle over you.

After he recreates the heavens and the earth. The Father

will tabernacle with you. The Greek says. That is in eternity.

Eternity is after the money in the reign of Christ,

when he recreates the heavens and the earth, after he

obliterates our enemy. Amen.

Amen, So.

Take note. It is only important that you've seen that

that he says, I will betrothe you for eternity. If

you needed a hint, you didn't have a clue. I

talked about this in the opening of this program. There

are birth pains coming, there's a great tribulation coming. We

are tribulationist. There is a millennial reign of Christ coming.

We are millennialist. And after that, after God recreates the

heavens and the earth, there's eternity, and we will be

betrothed to Him in that eternity without time. These things

are true. This is massively important to in my Bible prophecy,

because let's talk about the people that don't believe there's

a millennial or reign of Christ. So they don't believe

in any eternity, Jose.

That's what they're saying, Matthew. Are the ones that say

that Jesus is currently raning right now even though we

don't see his righteous Matthew, we don't see his judgment

the way he's promised us.

No, it's because they don't want no righteousness, Jose. Yep,

they don't want it. They don't want to live in

the millennial reign of Christ. So it's important that you've

seen that little Greek word there. You need to do

words study on that, right there, Ladies and gentlemen, if

you can, if you can get to those subtuge and

do it. So boy, these last verses, let let me

pass it over to Jose. Jose your thoughts up to

this point.

No, I think that's that's what I want to reiterate, Matthew.

I've I've heard repeatedly from you know, different Christian commentators

trying to trying to say that we are currently that

Christ is currently on the throne right now, and that

this is part of his millennial reign as explained in

the book Revelation. But you know, again, we and we've

gone over this before, Matthew, you just can't say that

that Jesus is on the throne, the Son is on

the throne when we still we see, we see all

the evil that is going on today, Matthew, and I

could make I could go through a whole list of

of everything that's still happening. To me, just and logically speaking,

and as a child of God yearning, I know this

is not how his millennial reign is going to look like. Matthew.

There's no way that all this stuff can be going on,

all this you know, murder and violence, and you know

injustice right, and this lack of of the people being

judged for the wrong they do. That's just not what

I'm seeing, Matthew. So I don't understand how how you

could say that that we are currently in the millennial

reign of Christ, that Jesus is currently on the throne,

that God's made made their at his footstool. That's just

not what I'm seeing, Matthew. So he will do that,

He will be faithful to complete everything he's promised here

in Jose chapter two. So so that's what That's what

I hope will provoke the listener to to look into

these verses more closely. If they believe those things, if

they believe that God has already put his son on

the throne and it's already been done and now we're

just waiting for that process to complete. That's just not

what I see, Matthew.

That's just not what you see.

Nope, Nope, nope. I won't. I just won't. I won't

accept that right now.

You got too much information, right, Yes, absolutely, I mean

you've just flat got too much information for that garbage.

He's just got too much information for it.

Amen.

So boy, these uh, this should be pretty right. Three

verses right, and it will be in that day, says

the Lord, that I will listen to the heavens and

I will listen to the earth. You know, here we

go again. When we go back to Revelation chapter twelve,

a listing of the entities there takes no you could

construe from this phraseology that the earth is a living organism,

right amen. I mean we're not going to dive into that.

But what does this mean, Jose? Are is what he's

saying here? Well, first off, we need to get our

feet on solid ground and you'll get to Heaven from here, Jose,

Is Heaven in outer space?

No we can't. No, No, we can't get to the

math here.

No, it's a different dimension, right right. We are in creation,

We're in cosmos. Heaven is not in cosmos. Now, the

Bible clearly says in the New Testament that it is

Christ that stands between the two. Christ reconciles creation back

to the Creator. It says that only He has ascended

and only He has descended, right, Jose, Right, which is

really what he's saying. So you need to understand this,

that this is saying there's going to be complete harmony

between that dimension of Heaven and the dimension of Earth,

and the only way that's going to happen is for

God to be on his throne in heaven. And the

son to be on his throne on earth. That's your

only way can happen. That's what he's saying. That's what

he means. Now he's getting ready to say something that's

just off the hook. Let me ask you this. This

is pretty pretty famous, right that the Bible says that

the earth groans, Yes, it longs for well, it longs

for God to get involved, right right, Write head down, ladies, Jentles,

you can look it up later verse twenty two of

Jose chapter two. And the earth will listen to the

grain and the wine and the olive oil, and they

will listen to Jezreel, and they will listen to jezreel.

So first off, let's just cut to the chase. Jezreel

means shown by God. So, Jose, what do you think?

Talk to me about this verse, and talk to me

about it quick, because we got seven minutes left.

Right. Well, Matthew, it just takes me back to Genesis

chapter four when Able's blood cries out from the ground

to God, right, and God hears it from his vantage point.

He hears that. So if that's the way it's supposed

to work, and it's not happening now, Matthew, God's telling

us that when he establishes his son's kingdom, that is

what's going to happen. That's how it's gonna work. Whatever

happens in Jezreel, whatever is sown in Jezreel, Matthew, God

will hear about it on his throne in heaven, and

it will be that direct line that'll follow through that

without any of those fallen interfering in that process. Matthew,

that's what I see in these verses here.

Well, he's getting ready to explain Dresrael, that's for sure.

He's getting ready to explain it. Who is going to

be son of God? Verse twenty three. And I will

sow her for myself upon the land, and I will

love her who was not love. And I will say

to not my people, you are my people. And he

will say you are the Lord, my God. Ladies and gentlemen.

This is a very poetic way to say that the

earth will hearken to our voice. What this is saying

is that when we become clothing to Christ, well, remember

those things when he said, Hey, if you got the

faith the side of a mustard seed, you can tell

this mountain to go throw itself in the sea and

it'll do it. Guess what it's going to do it.

He just gave you promises that are just Hoda. Have

you heard this before? Have you ever heard this that

in your resurrected body, you're gonna be able to do this?

Have you ever heard that before?

Yeah, I've heard people say things like that. Matthew.

Yes, this is where it came from. Right, There is

going to be equilibrium between heaven and earth. There will

be equilibrium because the Lord our God will be on

his throne in heaven and the Lord Jesus Christ will

be on his throne on earth. And when this happens,

those that are clothing to Christ we will be of

one flesh with him. We will be able to how

do many and over the earth and everything that's in

the earth. So, ladies and gentlemen, if you want to

have a garden, boy, will you be able to have

a garden because you will tell the tomato plants grow

and guess what they're going to do. I mean, that's

pretty off the hook, right.

Jose Amen. Matthew, Yeah, absolutely so.

We are at the top of the hour closing comments.

I mean, Matthew, this is you know, when when we

finished last time and I saw how many verses were

left in this chapter, you know, you start to think, well,

is that going to be enough to cover the whole hour?

But of course that that's a dumb question, because we

could probably go a whole other two hours and still

not not get everything in which which is a beautiful thing.

It's it's amazing. And again we could sit down and

do this saying these same versus next week Matthew, and

come up with the whole hour stuff.

It's just oh, yes, I could, Amen, have you heard me?

Have have you heard me tell the audience? Have you

heard me tell them to write down one strong number?

That I give them one strong number, just one. No, no, Jose,

oh Jose. I didn't share a quarter of what I could, Amen, Amen,

I only pointed out to you and brought your attention

to the subcuage version. I didn't tell I didn't give

you any data that is differentiated from this in the Masoretic.

I did I even mention Hebrew.

Nope.

I did say that it was translated prophetically. And when

you look at the subtuogen you can realize, well, you

can play with this translation, can't you? Because the Hebrews

are prophetic language because God took the valve from you,

didn't eat Jose. Right, so you can take one Hebrew

word and you can now now take word. Take note,

it'll have two or three different strongs entry for the

noun and two or three different strong entries for the verb.

I've showed you that many times, right, yes, So yeah,

you didn't get a quarter of what I could have

give you. Jose and I are just shining the light

in that direction. Now you know there's a tunnel going

that way. You're in a great big cave of God's word,

and Satan shepherds and their corrupt clergy that run the

churches have showed you so little, so little of this cave.

Jose and I just took a flashlight, pointed and that direction, said, hey,

there's a tunnel going that way, but just take no

so I know where there's six or seven different tunnels

here in the Book of Jose, but you never even

who existed. What I'm really trying to do is I'm

trying to get you excited. I'm trying to get you interested.

I'm trying to get your mind off the ballgame. And

it's nearly impossible isn't it. Jose, Yes, it is nearly impossible.

I mean, I'm trying to get your mind out of

the news, and it's just nearly impossible. But you'd be

surprised with the spirit of a living God can do right.

Jose Amen, Matthew, Amen, All right?

Well, pray us out of here, please.

Dear heavenly Father, whom we love and serve, I thank you,

and I give you praise for gathering us together. Father, Tonight,

I pray for those bad shepherds. I pray that if

there is any mercy in your heart for them, that

you that you have them repent. Father, You have them

repent for the way that they have misled your people. Lord,

you have told us what is going to happen to

those bad shepherds if they do not repent, if they

continue on in their ways and in leading your people

to hell. So, today's Lord, I ask if there is

any of those shepherds that are being acting as wolves

in sheep's clothing, if there is any way that you

can pull them from the fire, that you do so, Lord,

only so that it will be for your glory, and

only so that it will bring more sheep into your flock.

I don't understand. I don't understand why this is part

of your plan. I don't understand why this must happen.

I only know and I have faith that you are

allowing it to happen so that you may be glorified,

and so that more people will be brought to your son, Lord.

That is my hope. And I ask that you help

us as a ministry not fall into the trap of

the bad shepherds. That we be faithful to your word,

that we be faithful in your prayers, and that we

be faithful and edifying the ecclesia, so that we may

be ready for your coming, Father, and for the coming

of your son. And we ask all this in the

name of your Son, our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

Amen, Amen and Amen. Until next time, ladies and gentlemen,

God bless, godspeed.

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