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S2E60 Fellowship: Dominionism

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  1. Do you know the Bible is God's Holy Word? Do

  2. you know it is inspired, in errant, and infallible? If so, like, share,

  3. subscribe and support this podcast. So we are mere Nathal

  4. Ministries and now Redemption draweth nigh. Welcome, ladies and gentlemen,

  5. Welcome to the Fellowship tonight. I think we're going to

  6. open up with talking a little bit about Jenny's observations

  7. about what's going on with the church and unnervingly, I've

  8. had somebody else talk to me about these things and

  9. it's it's disturbing to me. So Jenny, can you start

  10. us out in prayer, please, and do not forget to

  11. pray for our siblings that are enduring this storm, this

  12. series of storms.

  13. Please here, God, we thank you for this time to

  14. come together. Lord, We're grateful for all of our brothers

  15. and sisters that are here with us right now, and

  16. the ones that aren't able to listen due to the

  17. storm's Lord, we ask you'll protect them and keep them

  18. in the palm of your hand, Lord, that they may

  19. not be.

  20. Swayed or moved.

  21. Lord, that you would keep all of the things, all

  22. of the homes, all of the people that you have

  23. given them, Lord, that you will keep them all safe. Lord,

  24. that you will just be with each and every one

  25. of us. Lord, that you will prick our ears and

  26. our heart's Lord, that we might learn and hear what

  27. you and the Holy Spirit are saying to us. Lord,

  28. thank you for this time, and asked they bless bless it.

  29. To all the hearers. Lord in Jesus name.

  30. Amen, Amen, and Amen, ladies and gentlemen. A while back,

  31. and I mean a while back, I can't even remember

  32. how far back this was, Jenny said she wanted us

  33. to talk about what was going on in the church,

  34. and then several of our siblings agreed, Yeah, we should

  35. talk about that. So I said, well, why don't you,

  36. I mean, the event horizon for this feeling was Jenny.

  37. So I said, you need to write, you know, you

  38. need to give me a list. So quite some time expired,

  39. she didn't send me the list, so I repetitioned her, Hey,

  40. we need to talk about this, and so she sent

  41. me the list and it was absolutely not what I

  42. was expecting. It just wasn't and it wasn't to the

  43. point where it was disturbing to me. And so I'm

  44. just going to read here, just just run off. Maybe

  45. the first couple of issues. What I'm seeing in the church,

  46. what I have seen locally, deliverance, praying about binding strong men,

  47. binding Satan, proclamations and beliefs that our will be done

  48. in the guise that it is the Lord's will and

  49. it is do us. Oh, my goodness, ladies and gentlemen,

  50. I hope you have the wherewithal to understand that the

  51. last is you was coming straight out of the second

  52. issue's mouth. Let me clarify issue number two, praying about

  53. binding strong men, binding Satan. It is Satan alone that

  54. proclaims his will be done. So let me read the

  55. third issue again, proclamations and beliefs that hour will be

  56. done in the guise that it is the Lord's will

  57. and it is due us. Ladies and gentlemen. Surely, if

  58. you've been born and raised in the church, surely, surely

  59. you've read through the Bible at least once. Surely I

  60. mean well understand that a lot of people may not

  61. have done that, But that is to say, surely you've

  62. read through the New Testament once. That being the case,

  63. it cannot escape your attention that Satan and Satan alone

  64. would have put this third point that I read. I mean,

  65. surely you know the Lord's prayer? Okay, the whole point

  66. of the Kingdom of Heaven is for us to execute

  67. his will on earth as the angels do in heaven.

  68. Did I take you by surprise? Hearken to my voice.

  69. If you think that the charubleman Heaven do their own will,

  70. you are grossly mistaken. If you think that the messengers

  71. in Heaven run around and do whatever they want, you

  72. are grossly mistaken. That's why I said it in a

  73. way that you would understand it. The Lord's Prayer loudly

  74. proclaims that we are to do his will here on

  75. earth like the angels do in heaven. And the only

  76. one that messes up that equation and unbalances that equation

  77. is Satan. It is satan. I mean, surely this is

  78. common knowledge. Surely this is common knowledge. So, Jenny, why

  79. did you list number one here as deliverance? Can you

  80. please enlighten me? What do you mean by that deliverance?

  81. Well, you had told me to make the list in

  82. chronological order in my own life the way things fell,

  83. so that happened to be the instigator for why I

  84. ever started looking into all of the things. I started

  85. looking around and seeing.

  86. Okay, well you need to qualify that, okay, because to

  87. most people this just doesn't come up. So I would assume,

  88. as the listener would assume, that you must have started

  89. going to a new church or you got a new

  90. pastor at your current church. So which one was it?

  91. It was neither of those. It was just sort of

  92. a new bang thrown on our lap one day.

  93. And and tell me how long have you been going

  94. to this church.

  95. I don't know, maybe it's two or three years?

  96. Okay. So have you had any of your children while

  97. in attendance of this church? Uh?

  98. They were all born before.

  99. Okay, all right, So you're well established at this church,

  100. and all of a sudden the ministry takes a new

  101. direction all of the sudden. It's it's it's all a

  102. sudden about deliverance. What was this ministry's focus before deliverance.

  103. I don't know if there was a focus, to be

  104. honest with you, I think it was just like I

  105. would compare it to pretty much all the churches that

  106. I go to or have gone to, which it's not

  107. that they have a real purpose other than they just

  108. think that they're supposed to gather together, and that's pretty

  109. much where it ends.

  110. Okay, well that church, Okay, so we're going to get

  111. to We're going to get right to the crux of

  112. the matter very quickly. So what evangelism does this church do?

  113. Does it put ads in the newspaper, does it put

  114. ads on the local rodeo radio station? Does it have billboards?

  115. Does it do anything to invite the lost into the church? Anything?

  116. Doesn't do anything.

  117. They do have some signs I would call them like billboards,

  118. many billboards. They do stuff every month to invite people,

  119. and they make a breakfast for people. So, I mean

  120. they do some stuff, but I'm just saying that it's

  121. I don't know if that's the main thing that they're

  122. doing there. I think their main goal is to come

  123. together and build each other up. But I don't know

  124. that the growth thing is a high priority.

  125. Well, I'm glad you put it that way. I didn't

  126. have to. I didn't have to enlighten you. You are

  127. quite correct. They are there not to build up the

  128. body of Christ. You are quite correct. They are there

  129. to build each other up. Now, either you like that

  130. or you don't. Either that is palpable to you or

  131. it is not. However, that's beside the point. What I

  132. just said is the truth. It is the truth. So

  133. this is the whole reason why they do not have

  134. an outreach program. If they are not going into the

  135. world to gather the lost, they're not doing anything. I mean,

  136. you have to have aggressive evangelism. You can't just have

  137. an open breakfast when anybody can come to they come

  138. and eat. You just can't do that. I'm sure you

  139. all are understanding what I'm saying. So it would seem

  140. to me that in the nothingness of the point of

  141. this church, all of a sudden it took a new direction.

  142. It went from not having any purpose to a purpose,

  143. and that purpose deliverance. That's quite a That's quite a

  144. u turn, wouldn't you think, Jenny. Yeah, it was a surprise,

  145. and I take it it was an unpleasant surprise.

  146. Yeah.

  147. I wasn't.

  148. I wasn't thrilled with it.

  149. So how did this individual actually relay the message to

  150. you that God's will was do you? You were owed it?

  151. God owed you? How did he relay that message? Was

  152. it at a single sermon or did this take several

  153. weeks to play out? And that's just a conclusion you

  154. came to.

  155. I would say it was more of a conclusion I

  156. because it wasn't actually ever stated per se. It was

  157. more of a like, like I said elsewise, with the binding,

  158. it was a new thing to like say, binding things

  159. in the name of Jesus, as if it's our decision

  160. to decide what things need to stop and what things

  161. need to go. It's out of That's the kind of

  162. speech that was leading me to those conclusions.

  163. And that should naturally not ring true with you. You

  164. most certainly have read through the Bible more than once,

  165. so that should that should not have ever rung true

  166. with you, because the New Testament loudly declares that when

  167. one such a person that's in the body of Christ

  168. becomes out of joint, he is to be handed over

  169. to Satan. Correct, right, And the hotel of job was

  170. Job getting waddled at the Lord's behest right. I mean,

  171. there was no way that Job could have asked God,

  172. can you bind Satan for me? Because it was God

  173. the whole time who had sent Satan to him. Correct.

  174. Yeah, Satan wasn't allowed to do anything unless God approved.

  175. That's right. That's right because he's a dog he's just

  176. like you. He's a created thing, and you are most

  177. certainly on a leash, Jinny, and you are not God,

  178. and you will do exactly what He has designed for

  179. you to do. I hope you know that. So both

  180. the Old and New Testaments resoundingly say this is false.

  181. You're not owed anything. The only one who is owed

  182. anything is he who said at the pomp the throne

  183. He's owed something. So I can understand why this made

  184. you off kilter. It wasn't ringing true to you. So

  185. I personally find this disturbing. I really do. And another

  186. thing that bothers me is the next point number four.

  187. Now you know I took psychology, right, Jenny. Yes, whenever

  188. anyone changes the how do I put that? When someone

  189. changes and attempts to change the environment, it should set

  190. off alarm bells for you, now, especially since psychologists determined

  191. this quite some time ago, that when they played certain

  192. types of music around plants, it would alter the growing

  193. precession of said plants. That's a fact, that's not hearsay.

  194. It's already been done. And when someone changes to switch

  195. the audio surroundings, that should raise alarms. And that's exactly

  196. what number point number four does it says Bethel and

  197. Hillsong music influencing the congregations to follow Denominationalism and New

  198. Apostolic Reformation beliefs. So really that's four and five, right,

  199. But you're saying the reason why you worded it this way,

  200. and just so you know, any psychologist would have picked

  201. this up. You instinctively knew that they were using music

  202. to alter your perceptions and to change, to change your

  203. preconceived notions. Now, what was the music before this started happening, Jenny?

  204. Did they just do hymns at church or what?

  205. There was always some newer type of songs, but there

  206. was started to be some that were more I don't

  207. know what I would call them necessarily, but I looked

  208. them up because I was like, I wanted to know

  209. where they came from, and they.

  210. I guess they were just vague.

  211. I like songs that have you know that that have

  212. a scripture reference or or our scripture just period. But

  213. they were vague and they didn't really have a lot

  214. of use as far as I was concerned. They were

  215. just pretty much empty. And so I was looking into

  216. them for that reason because I wasn't really they were catchy,

  217. but they were worthless, so.

  218. They were hollow instead of hollow, right. I hope everybody

  219. is digesting this. I hope everybody is listening. Dominionism. What

  220. is dominionism? Jenny? What? What? Well? Just explain to you

  221. what is dominionism?

  222. I would put it, and please correct me if I

  223. say anything out of sorts, but I would put it

  224. as the people that think that they need to do

  225. something for Jesus to return, that Jesus can't possibly return

  226. unless they do their part here on earth.

  227. This is harkening back to the one making proclamations that

  228. there will be done and God owes it to them.

  229. So this is really what you explained before in a

  230. single word, and that's not how the Kingdom of Heaven works,

  231. is it?

  232. No?

  233. Okay, next point, and I appreciate this Hebrew roots hype

  234. lunacy that I sent you the truth video about that

  235. phraseology will probably upset a whole lot of people. So

  236. why don't you explain yourself?

  237. It just seems to me that a lot of people,

  238. and I could be mistaken a lot of people I

  239. see around me have good motives or they think they

  240. have good motives, and they want to learn more about

  241. the Old Testament and the feasts and stuff. And when

  242. they do that, I think they genuinely want to learn.

  243. But essentially it just steps. Every time I've seen it,

  244. it steps incrementally worse and worse and worse and worse,

  245. until they essentially just lose their mind. This is what

  246. I am seeing, where people.

  247. Just lose all.

  248. All ability, all faculty to make rational, rational decisions.

  249. And you've experienced that in this ministry personally, haven't you.

  250. Yeah, we've seen it. I've seen it now more times

  251. than I would like.

  252. And unfortunately, every single time I nipped it in the bud,

  253. and there was just no coming back from it. And

  254. I made public proclamations that that would be exactly what

  255. would happen, and it did happen, unfortunately. So ladies and gentlemen,

  256. hearken to my voice. You need to do the opposite

  257. of that. This is why one of the primary reasons

  258. why this ministry and we are the only ministry that

  259. does this. We hold to the Hebrew degree. And this

  260. is why I, over the past couple of years, have

  261. started stressing more and more the subtulogen Why because I'm

  262. trying to get you into the new Testament. There is

  263. nothing wrong with picking either the Old Testament or the

  264. New Testament to study. I am grossly overqualified to say that,

  265. wouldn't you say that, Jenny?

  266. Yeah, I don't know anyone more qualified.

  267. And I have proven that to you, right, I mean heay?

  268. For example, I just published yesterday was Pie Day?

  269. Right?

  270. It was a three fourteen March the fourteenth. Every year

  271. celebrates the integer pie three point one four. So I

  272. scared that post that I made about Ezekiel chapter twenty

  273. four and pie being in there. Do you know anyone

  274. else who could do that?

  275. No? I don't.

  276. Okay, who's your top Hebrew expert? Could they have even

  277. been able to remotely address that? Especially my first instance,

  278. when I catch you by surprise, I give you this septuagint,

  279. I give you the Greek calculation for pie in there first.

  280. Do you know anyone who could do that?

  281. No?

  282. That being the case, why don't I propagate Hebrew roots,

  283. Ladies and gentlemen. I want you to learn God's word

  284. like I know it. But understand this, it is more

  285. important that you learned a New Testament. The New Testament

  286. is in Greek. Yes, Delich gave us the Hebrew New Testament.

  287. That's true, and I can prove to you existentially that

  288. is the New Testament part of the Hebraica. I can

  289. prove that to you in ways you cannot currently comprehend.

  290. But this should raise alarm bells. Hearken to my voice.

  291. I'm gonna ask Genny a question, and this is important. Jenny,

  292. did the Lord Jesus Christ instruction instruct us to continue

  293. following the feast?

  294. I don't bullieve.

  295. So really, what chapter verse did he say we're supposed

  296. to keep rashashana? Don't be shy.

  297. I don't remember him saying that.

  298. Of course you don't remember it because it never happened.

  299. That does not exist, doesn't exist. So this should set

  300. off alarm bells. This should tell you where this is

  301. coming from. It's coming from Judaist, and they are getting

  302. the money to do so via the Judaeist. If you

  303. were to take on an on this in depth study

  304. and research Nayanism, you would know where this came from.

  305. So just some points. The best way to avert everything

  306. we've talked about so far is to memorize, recite, and

  307. repeat the Lord's prayer as often as possible. The Lord's

  308. prayer will absolutely mix all of this in the bud.

  309. But if you concentrate on the New Testament, if you

  310. listen to the New Testament when you don't have the

  311. time to read it, if you take all the you know,

  312. all of the Bethel music, put it in the garbage,

  313. take all the Hillsong music, put it promptly in the garbage.

  314. Take your radio and bash it into Okay, you don't

  315. need to listen to, you know, the local Christian radio station.

  316. You need to get an audio version of the Bible

  317. and listen to that. And after you listen to it

  318. through on the third time, things will begin to either

  319. ring with you or they will irritate you, one or

  320. the other. Your spirit will have a natural response to

  321. any audio you receive. I promise you this is the case.

  322. I promise it to you. You listen through the New

  323. Testament through three complete times, and all of a sudden,

  324. when somebody starts saying something left to right, it will

  325. not ring true with you. It will be like nails

  326. on a chalkboard, just like it was for Jennifer. This

  327. is why Jennifer was unsettled by this. The Holy Spirit

  328. will settle you. The devil will un settle you. And

  329. Jennifer is familiar enough with the Bible, God's Holy Word

  330. that this was not setting well with her. It was

  331. irritating her. So this is what she's been going through locally.

  332. And does this still persist Jennifer or have you left

  333. this environment?

  334. Well, what happened was that we met with the pastor

  335. multiple times and they agreed to quit doing this at

  336. the church, so they have it as not persistent.

  337. And was it just your voice that halted this direction

  338. or was there more than you know? More than you

  339. was there other people that was not too pleased with

  340. the direction you were going.

  341. I can't speak for anybody else other than I know.

  342. My father goes there too, and he also said the

  343. same thing.

  344. The only thing I got to say is wow, Wow,

  345. stepped out in faith.

  346. Huh, Well, you have taught me a lot. So there

  347. were several eight page reports that I typed up this

  348. and my husband met with them multiple occasions.

  349. So so that.

  350. I tried to do what the Bible says and what

  351. what what we should do here in our own locality,

  352. That's what we tried to do.

  353. I am very thankful that you met with success for

  354. your children's sake, let me say that again, for your

  355. children's sake. Let's move on to the next point. So

  356. from here, Jennifer goes on to what she has seen abroad,

  357. that is to say, in other places, not in her

  358. local church, massive push to create what I would call

  359. those who killed Christ that have been called crusaders. This

  360. is a little bit vague to me. Explain yourself, Jenny.

  361. I will just give one example. There is a I

  362. won't call him the pastor, I don't even know what

  363. to call him. There is a person that leads a

  364. bunch of people and his I listened to one of

  365. his little diatribes, and essentially what it boiled down to

  366. was that he was saying that anybody that uses the

  367. discernment that the Holy Spirit has given us was.

  368. A heretic or was.

  369. A They're essentially saying that people that are trying to

  370. be like Elijah and say hey, let's not do this,

  371. this isn't right are quenching the Holy Spirit, and that

  372. they need to be dealt with. They need to be eliminated,

  373. was what they were alluding to. And I've heard other

  374. people say similar things.

  375. So just to be clear, because she was pretty vague,

  376. I'll explain it to you. Jonah will show up and

  377. they will attempt to killy. Elijah will show up and

  378. they will attempt to killy. If someone stands up and says, no,

  379. what we are doing is an anathema to the Holy

  380. Spirit and the Bible, God's Holy Word, they immediately try

  381. to eject that person. Unfortunately, we've seen that here in

  382. pretty recent events, haven't we, Jennifer, Yes, so I know

  383. we know about that pretty personal. Next, a complete misunderstanding

  384. of God's will. Wow, now that is quite a bold

  385. statement for someone to make. Tell me, riddle me, what

  386. is God's will?

  387. It's in the Bible.

  388. Everything the Bible says. Everything the Bible says, but.

  389. It ultimately just boils down to a complete no knowledge

  390. of what the Bible says. So since nobody knows what

  391. the Bible even says, they'll soak up whatever somebody tells

  392. them as well.

  393. Well, I'll tell you what the Bible says in one sentence, Okay,

  394. And I don't think I know. If you can find

  395. somebody more qualified than me to debate with me, you

  396. do so quickly, because I'll give it to you straight.

  397. I'll give it to you simple I'll give it to

  398. you even as it was at the beginning. Be fruitful

  399. and multiply. Here, let me say it again, real slow,

  400. be fruitful and multiply. That's God's will. And everything we've

  401. talked about before right now is diametrically opposed to the

  402. increase of the Gospel and the Kingdom of Heaven. In

  403. every way, shape or form. All of these items that

  404. we have listed is attempting to isolate and segregate. This

  405. hence the term that we already talked about dominionism. It

  406. is an attempt to create a separate and master race.

  407. This is the spirit of Antichrist. The spirit of Christ

  408. wants to spread the Gospel, save the lost, and increase

  409. the Kingdom of Heaven because that is God's will. That's

  410. God's will. That's God's will. Everything we've talked about before

  411. was an anathema to that. So that's pretty easy. The

  412. next time somebody asks you, Jenny, make sure you have

  413. a quick response. I can tell you what the Bible

  414. says in one sentence, be fruitful and multiplied. That's God's will.

  415. The only way that can be done is through the

  416. resurrection of the Lord Jesus Christ, and usually if you

  417. say that more than three times in one conversation, they'll

  418. get irritated and start fidgeting and have to leave. They

  419. cannot tolerate the name of the Lord Jesus Christ. They

  420. can't tolerate it if they reject his word. They reject

  421. him because he is God's word. You know how many

  422. people could instruct you the proper way to say it

  423. in Hebrew? I mean, surely all of you who follow

  424. Hebrew roots people can tell you that it is husham

  425. I Donny, you're sure. I'm ashiak. I hope I didn't

  426. impress you because it's not required a massive push to

  427. become as God and seeking out the God of forces.

  428. I'm sorry, what did you say? People becoming God and

  429. seeking out the God of forces? Is that what you said?

  430. Do you know where that comes from? The God of

  431. forces is more Ziem and Hebrew. Do you have any

  432. idea what that is?

  433. Jenny, Yeah, yes.

  434. And you're saying that you've heard this from preachers.

  435. I don't think.

  436. I don't know that they know what they're saying, but yeah,

  437. I feel like they want to be able to do

  438. They want to be able to control and do the miracles.

  439. The signs of the wonders, and yeah, to me, that's

  440. what that is.

  441. I don't know, ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, I'm not going

  442. to go further into what I have already said. I mean,

  443. I'm just gonna let that lie right there, next point

  444. and undercurrent in almost every Christian organization that has been

  445. taken hostage by Satan. That's that's wow, that's that's pretty steep, Jennifer,

  446. that's pretty steep. Let me just gloss over that one.

  447. Next point, those seeking signs and wonders explain.

  448. That to me, I just seeing that people expect to

  449. see things now, and they expect action now, they expect

  450. to see things change now. Just a lot of essentially

  451. seeking what what we're not supposed to seek. I guess.

  452. I mean the Lord Jesus Christ did direct this at

  453. the Pharisees, right, A wicked generation seeks a sign. And

  454. you know, I grew up in the church, okay, and

  455. all the way into when when when I left my

  456. church to go away to a Christian institution of higher learning.

  457. Never never did I hear this. Never did anybody insinuate

  458. to me that I should expect to see miracles. Not ever. Actually,

  459. the only thing they Bonafid told me is that when

  460. you stand up and proclaim the Kingdom of Heaven, you

  461. will absolutely be persecuted. So that's really the only thing

  462. they taught me is that you should expect persecution, not miracles,

  463. and that the miracle lies in the simple fact that

  464. the Word of God remains long after you're dead. And

  465. still to this day, I marvel after that message because

  466. that's exactly what That's exactly what the Lord Jesus Christ

  467. said chapter twenty four. Right, He absolutely said you was

  468. going to get persecuted and that the people performing signs

  469. and wonders were bad.

  470. Right yeah, And you know, and even I've never asked

  471. you about it, but I mean, it even goes so

  472. far as the people that are talking asking why they

  473. aren't you know, Lord, didn't we do this? Didn't we

  474. do that? It's a specific things that they were doing.

  475. Yep, it was specific things they were doing. And you know,

  476. there's a big message in that, isn't there. Let me

  477. ask you something, Jenny, what is the biggest example that

  478. we have of this in the New Testament? What is

  479. the best explanation of exactly what's going to happen during

  480. this time, goosey question your chapters? Can you tell me

  481. you can't? Can you? Because I've never heard, I've never

  482. pointed it out to you, have I you can guess

  483. what two sequential chapters in the New Testament. Well, I'll

  484. just I'll make it easy for you. In the Gospels,

  485. what two consecutive chapters give you fantastically highly detailed information

  486. about this exact time Jesus was talking about. It gives

  487. you the ultimate example. Now, look, do not be misled

  488. when I say that are absolutely can prove it. It

  489. is the absolute one best example of someone that is

  490. absolutely in the Kingdom of Heaven but is in great

  491. danger of being misled if that were possible. Matter of fact,

  492. that phrase could mislead the elect if that were possible.

  493. There is no greater example of that than this example.

  494. Do you know where where these two sequential chapters are.

  495. Well, my guest before you said all that was Matthew

  496. three and four.

  497. But I'm not sure.

  498. I'm now, no, not even remotely, not even remotely, not

  499. even remotely close. Here, let's do this. Let's just use

  500. that example. We know that this is in the Bible,

  501. that it states that the deception will be so high

  502. that the elect would be deceived if that were possible.

  503. You know those verses, right, Yeah, nobody debates that. Right.

  504. Give me the one, single New Testament example of who

  505. that one person would be, Who would be the elect

  506. that it would be impossible to deceive? Who? Just just

  507. one name? No one, no one? Okay, what did you say?

  508. I said, John? That was my guess, which John the Beloved?

  509. No, nope, I'll say this, not even close. By the

  510. word of the Lord Jesus Christ. By the word of

  511. the Lord Jesus Christ, even John the Beloved was not

  512. even in the zip code of this one. That's a fact. Now,

  513. I've got the gears turning, but we don't have time

  514. to go into it, and I'm not gonna I'm not

  515. gonna have fifteen minutes left and give to you the

  516. two chapters because you can't process it. I am here

  517. to tell you must be saturated with scripture. Your psyche

  518. must be saturated with scripture in order for your eyes

  519. to be open to see it. But once it, once

  520. it's pointed out to you, it's a shock to your system.

  521. You will I've had people get really upset once they

  522. see it. They're like Oh no, How could I have

  523. read that a trillion times and my eyes weren't open

  524. to it? So I know from experience this creates information overloads.

  525. So I'm not going to do that to you in

  526. the last fifteen minutes. Let's do some elementary things, Jennifer,

  527. Are we treat like an untire my tongue? Are we tribulationists?

  528. Never heard you say that, I don't think before, so

  529. I'm not exactly sure what it means.

  530. Wow, Wow, ladies and gentlemen, are tribulationist. There is a

  531. vast swath of people that are reporting to be Christians

  532. that claim there is no great tribulation. Jenny, Does the

  533. Bible say there's a there's a coming great tribulation? Yeah,

  534. then you are a tribulationist. Okay, gotcha.

  535. I'll remember for next time you ask.

  536. Are we is this ministry millennialist?

  537. I'm gonna say, do we believe in the millennial reign

  538. of Jesus?

  539. Yes?

  540. Yes we do.

  541. Okay, Jenny, you know this yourself. About what percentage of

  542. the church in the West does not believe in the

  543. millennial reign of Christ? About what percent.

  544. Fifty?

  545. So, ladies and gentlemen, if you have read the New Testament.

  546. It's a shock to the system when people realize, Hey,

  547. you know, I'll ask him that question, just like I did,

  548. Genny and Jenny. You've been in this ministry for over

  549. a decade, right, correct? How could you not know what

  550. a tribulationist was?

  551. I don't know.

  552. I'm gonna say it's going to be like Primus resurrects,

  553. or that I had to be told what that meant

  554. so or the Primus numerous I'd spent like six months

  555. trying to figure out what that was.

  556. And tell me, do you know now?

  557. Yes?

  558. Can anybody take it from you?

  559. Absolutely not.

  560. So you're probably just thirsty to get your hands on

  561. those two chapters, aren't you.

  562. It wouldn't hurt my feelings at all.

  563. That wouldn't hurt your feelings. Sometimes it's the most elementary

  564. things that people need to hear to put a shock

  565. into their system, and when they realize, wait a minute,

  566. of course, the New Testament says there's a great tribulation,

  567. and they come to find out, Uh, my church doesn't

  568. believe there's a coming great tribulation. Guess what that means.

  569. Ladies and gentlemen get up, exit, stays left you're going

  570. to a church, but you're not a part of a congregation.

  571. Oh there's a church building there, there's just no congregation.

  572. There's no echisia there. I mean, how can you think?

  573. But you can bear fruit? So do you know what

  574. that means?

  575. Right?

  576. Physiologically speaking, it means that you're fertile. You can either

  577. be fertile or sterile. That's what it means. If you

  578. reject the words of the Lord Jesus Christ, I assure

  579. you you are sterile. You can't bear fruit. So if

  580. your church believes there's not a come in great Tribulation,

  581. it's sterile. If your church believes there is no millennial

  582. reign of Christ, it's not fertile. It cannot be fruitful

  583. and multiply. It can't and it won't. More importantly, it won't.

  584. It won't be fruitful and multiplied. Very simple questions, very

  585. simple questions. So, Jennifer, are the seals, the trumpets, and

  586. the bulls? Are they sequential? Hello? Hello, ho?

  587. They don't happen all at the same time.

  588. Is that what you're asking?

  589. I said, are they sequential? Yeah?

  590. But I don't know a sequential man.

  591. It means one after another. It means that the second

  592. trumpet happens after the first one. Yes, and are they chronological?

  593. I think so.

  594. Yes, of course they are, of course they are. How

  595. can you prove this? It's really to do. Ladies and gentlemen.

  596. Don't you realize that it is the seventh seal that

  597. produces the seventh trumpets. So there is no way, there's

  598. no way that the seventh seal could be the seventh

  599. trumpet or the seventh full It's impossible. Let me see,

  600. the seventh seal produces the seven trumpets, the seventh trumpet

  601. produces the seven bulls. So they must be sequential and chronological.

  602. If anybody says anything else, they're sterile. They have made

  603. impotent the word of the living God. You need to

  604. flee from them. They're working for Satan.

  605. You know.

  606. It's amazing how sometimes it takes a shock to the system.

  607. There are many people out there stating that the seals

  608. and the trumpets and the bulls are all the same thing.

  609. They say that the first seal is also the first trumpet,

  610. and it's also the first bull. That is not the case.

  611. That will render you, That will render that church building sterile,

  612. It will be incapable of bearing fruit for the Kingdom

  613. of heaven, because it has rejected God's word, rejected it.

  614. Therefore you will find no easier there. There's a church there,

  615. there's just no congregation. It is a hollow building. It

  616. is not a hollow congregation. Just so you know, the

  617. Bible is very clear that you should sing hymns, songs

  618. and spiritual songs.

  619. Correct, Kenny, Yes, we've memorized that here. The kids have

  620. that memorized.

  621. Well, Very good for them. They automatically know if someone

  622. plays an ape or a video of something else, they

  623. should immediately reject that. You have taught them wisely. It

  624. is they who are supposed to produce the song, and

  625. not some video up on the big screen. It's not

  626. supposed to be a radio, is it, Jenny. No, Jennifer,

  627. do you actually think that turning on the radio is

  628. pleasing and acceptable to God? Be careful what you say.

  629. Well, I have one of the first things that went

  630. into the trash can when I first heard your breach

  631. was every music item my own.

  632. So no, I don't listen to the radio.

  633. Praise God. Do as he commanded. You produced the song,

  634. ladies and gentlemen. Just so you know, if a member

  635. of your congreg indgation is not producing the sound of

  636. music on a piano or on an organ, or a

  637. guitar or whatever. The Spirit's not gonna move. I'm just

  638. telling you. The spirit does not will not move through

  639. a dead thing. It just won't. And Satan knows that.

  640. He knows that. You know what's funny. I have been

  641. to many revivals, ladies and gentlemen, and I've never been

  642. to a revival where the music and the song produced

  643. was done so by media. I've never seen the spirit

  644. move in that environment ever, And I've seen things that

  645. would blow your mind. I've seen things your eyes wouldn't

  646. even believe. If you've seen it, let me tell you

  647. a secret. The way that I am now, if it

  648. is different than you, I'll tell you why. Because the

  649. Ecclesia laid her hands on me and prayed for me

  650. to be something more than I was. And I'm pretty

  651. sure it had something to do with this. Those individual

  652. hands had been clapping to God's song just moments before

  653. they went from clapping to everybody gathering around the altar,

  654. and those hands would be laid upon me, and it

  655. transferred something, and you can believe it or not, I

  656. don't care. I will tell you this. The things I

  657. have spoken are true, and you will find out just

  658. how true they are. To beam a seat, because both

  659. you and I have an appointment at that Bema seat.

  660. And if your church is participating in this list that

  661. Jennifer provided for us, you need to flee the wrath

  662. of God. You need to flee while you can, because

  663. the Lord, he's God, He's not like you. And I

  664. am sorry if all these people have got you convinced

  665. that Jesus is gonna put poke his head through the

  666. clouds and see the abomination of desolation and get scared

  667. and will the whisk you back to heaven. I'm sorry

  668. if they've convinced you of that. But I'm here to

  669. tell you the truth. You've got a day of dead reckoning.

  670. You need to write that down dead reckoning. Look that

  671. up what that means in navigation, dead reckoning. You're gonna

  672. have a dead reckoning with he who sit at the

  673. palm the throne, and when you do, nobody will be

  674. able to deceive you. After then you're gonna know exactly

  675. what you're in store for. What I've told you is

  676. the truth, and there is massive deception running room to

  677. church buildings. One thing I need to warn everybody. If

  678. you encounter resistance in your church for the evangelism of children,

  679. you need to flee. It's one thing. If that church

  680. building refuses to evangelize adults, that's one thing. If it

  681. refuses to evangelize children, you need to flee for your life.

  682. The Satan's got you, Cook, line and sinker. You're as

  683. good as dead. You're sterile. You y not bear fruit

  684. for the Kingdom of Heaven. I hope you all remember

  685. this that Jesus got pretty upset one time at the

  686. disciples because they were preventing the children from coming to him.

  687. If so, you know, Jenny, can you pray us out

  688. of here.

  689. Please, our Father, who are in heaven, hallowed be thy name,

  690. Thy Kingdom.

  691. Come.

  692. They will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

  693. Give us a stay or daily bread. Forgive us our trespasses,

  694. as we forgive those who trespass against us. Lead us

  695. not into temptation, but deliver us from evil, for thine

  696. as a case them and the power and the glory

  697. forever and ever.

  698. Amen, Amen and Amen. Until next time, God bless, God speed,

  699. Thank you.

  700. For listening to Marinath the Ministries with Matthew Miller. I

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  709. into my path.

  710. It's yours that I hide in my heart, that I

  711. might not sin against God.

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